Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2: Dave Foley.
Speaker 3: I understand you're a bit under the weather, so I'm
Speaker 3: even more grateful that you gave us time tonight on
Speaker 3: Coast to Coast.
Speaker 2: Oh what, I I'm such a fan. It's stupid.
Speaker 3: And I just you know, I watched every episode, and
Speaker 3: then I was so happy to see make the jump
Speaker 3: to news radio, which I thought was also a great show.
Speaker 3: And boy how many stars came out of that, and
Speaker 3: and so I and then you know your movie career
Speaker 3: and your recurring episodic appearances.
Speaker 2: I always, I always love pointing you out. I was like,
Speaker 2: such an idiot.
Speaker 4: Well, thank you so much. I appreciate I very much
Speaker 4: appreciate your idiocy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and only half the time do I do the
Speaker 3: little head crusher on you, you know, only only half
Speaker 3: the time.
Speaker 2: I love. I still love that bit.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: So I was.
Speaker 3: I know that you've had other podcasts, You've done all
Speaker 3: other things. I'm particularly interested in the new work here,
Speaker 3: So we'll get to that in just a second. But
Speaker 3: are we catching you in La or New York? I
Speaker 3: know you go back and forth.
Speaker 4: I'm in New York City, tonight.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, well super late, so super thank you again.
Speaker 4: Yeah, how often you If I get delirious, you'll know why.
Speaker 3: We'll blame it on the better drill. Hey, tell me
Speaker 3: about the other guys.
Speaker 2: And Kids in the Hall? Do you keep in touch?
Speaker 3: And I mean, I know some were writing partners and
Speaker 3: then there was a little like a little strive and whatever.
Speaker 3: But I mean, so where does that stand for people
Speaker 3: that don't know. Kids in the Hall was such a
Speaker 3: great Canadian series that was as big here, I think
Speaker 3: as it wasn't Canada, wasn't it?
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I only think yeah, yeah, I mean technically
Speaker 4: bigger here because there's more.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's more.
Speaker 4: You American, right, but I think we got about the
Speaker 4: same percentage of the population. But yeah, we yeah, well
Speaker 4: we did yeah we uh uh yeah we well we yeah.
Speaker 4: We did the show for five years and we've been
Speaker 4: together for about five years before we got the TV
Speaker 4: show as a Quebec and then uh, I don't know
Speaker 4: if you know, but like a year ago we uh
Speaker 4: we we aired a uh on Amazon Prime. We did
Speaker 4: a reboot where we did a.
Speaker 3: Good you know, I didn't well then I'm glad I
Speaker 3: asked like an idiot because I try, I really do
Speaker 3: try to keep up with you and so uh good.
Speaker 4: I didn't want you to know about it, So yeah,
Speaker 4: I understand that, but it's all right, so I gotta go.
Speaker 3: That gives me something to do tomorrow when I'm I'm
Speaker 3: in my post Coast to Coast haze and I'm sort
Speaker 3: of like semi awake and semi asleep.
Speaker 2: But you know about that.
Speaker 4: That's the best way to watch Kids in the Hall.
Speaker 2: You know, it's funny because it ran here.
Speaker 3: I grew up in Chicago and it ran uh usually after.
Speaker 2: SNL they would often play it.
Speaker 3: They would they would do like it was a funny
Speaker 3: There was like Saturday Night Live, and then for a
Speaker 3: long time there was se TV. Then there was Kids
Speaker 3: in the Hall and it's like our night, my buddies
Speaker 3: and irons. You know, we just we It didn't start
Speaker 3: until after Kids.
Speaker 2: In the Hall game on the air. That was that
Speaker 2: was that was we would we would wait up for
Speaker 2: that because it was just that good.
Speaker 3: So so congratulations and all your success with this podcast.
Speaker 3: I think for a lot of people the first thing
Speaker 3: they hear when they go, oh, comedian, producer, writer is
Speaker 3: when you're doing something like a podcast. It's easy for
Speaker 3: them to think about, oh, he's he's just spoofing UFO
Speaker 3: fans or people that are interested in trying to get
Speaker 3: to the bottom of the story once and for all.
Speaker 2: But that's not the case here, No, not.
Speaker 4: At all, not not booing or parodying or mocking in
Speaker 4: any way. I in fact, you know, a conversation I've
Speaker 4: had quite a bit with my friend Jeremy Corbell, who
Speaker 4: I believe you know, the uh that I kind of
Speaker 4: feel like, uh, comedians have been useful idiots. Yeah, the
Speaker 4: uh for the cover up of UFOs and the stigmatization
Speaker 4: of UFOs for for decades. Uh, you know, because if
Speaker 4: you present you know, you present comedians with with easy
Speaker 4: little hanging fruit, the go for it. You know, we're
Speaker 4: very lazy people, uh you know, so so for general,
Speaker 4: you know, so for a lot of years, comedians would
Speaker 4: play on the notions of you know, UFOs only need
Speaker 4: to take an interest in, you know, trailer parks people.
Speaker 4: And you know that only uh you know that only
Speaker 4: uh you know hillbilly and weirdos to UFOs, and comedians
Speaker 4: kind of latched onto that as an easy joke. And
Speaker 4: and I can give a lot of harm over the
Speaker 4: years to a lot of people who have suffered a
Speaker 4: lot from the stigma. And so I guess I can
Speaker 4: part as a median. I want to. I want to
Speaker 4: try and redress that a little. I guess right.
Speaker 2: You know it's interesting because go hey, oh no.
Speaker 4: I was gonna sayd And I know when I'm when
Speaker 4: they started talking about the subject publicly, it took a
Speaker 4: while when I am uh to con miss people. I
Speaker 4: was serious that I'm not there to try and bait
Speaker 4: people and mock them.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 4: And I don't blame them because you know, comedians, because
Speaker 4: I think meetings have done a lot of damage well.
Speaker 3: And at the same time, you know, I mean, people
Speaker 3: who have seen something aren't uniform in their beliefs.
Speaker 2: I get. I was just asked this earlier this week.
Speaker 3: You know, do I believe in UFOs and I I
Speaker 3: I know what I saw, But I would I say
Speaker 3: what I believe.
Speaker 2: To be a very short list.
Speaker 3: I know what I saw, and I'll think about that
Speaker 3: all day long. I'll think about anything. You know that
Speaker 3: to me, that's different than believe.
Speaker 2: You know, I I'm.
Speaker 3: A person of faith. I believe in certain things that
Speaker 3: I hold over others. And I think that's part of
Speaker 3: sometimes when we that that's what keeps people from accepting
Speaker 3: the possibility of thinking about it, is they think if
Speaker 3: they're in for a dime, they're in for a dollar.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: No, and it's, uh, well eventually yard, let's be honest. Yeah,
Speaker 4: it's it's like you indeed, once you want to, once
Speaker 4: you put a toe in the water. Yeah, because it's fascinating,
Speaker 4: fascinating subject and it makes me think about a lot
Speaker 4: of other fascinating subjects. But but yeah, I don't, I don't. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I don't believe in the UFOs. I know that there
Speaker 4: is a UFO reality. I know that I know that
Speaker 4: there is something that you know, if you want to
Speaker 4: just you know, talk about craft. I mean, we know
Speaker 4: there are objects a performing uh impossible of aeronautic feats
Speaker 4: in our air space. And we know that that's not
Speaker 4: a it's not a matter of conjecture, it's not a
Speaker 4: matter of belief. It's it's they've been tracked, they've been seen,
Speaker 4: they've been me We've got credible eyewitnesses. The Pentagon's admitted
Speaker 4: to the reality of it. Yeah, we got videos, Yeah,
Speaker 4: much better one somewhere.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and so all of that is you know, you know,
Speaker 5: it's not Yeah, it's not a question of belief, and
Speaker 5: it's not a conjecture at this point is you know
Speaker 5: there is a UFO reality.
Speaker 4: The question is what is it? And that's right. That's
Speaker 4: the question that I don't think anyone has an answer
Speaker 4: to yet, but it sure as a question with asking
Speaker 4: Andy and and and and for me a question you
Speaker 4: know that I want to keep asking people smarter than
Speaker 4: me and more knowledgeable than me as often as I can.
Speaker 3: It's kind of like asking somebody if they're standing on
Speaker 3: a street corner and a bus goes by, do they
Speaker 3: believe that a bus went by?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Right, I gets in the largest philosophical sense, yeah, it's
Speaker 4: if we accept that all of our that all that
Speaker 4: our all of our reality is mediated by our senses,
Speaker 4: and our senses are possibly you know, uh uh is
Speaker 4: any a fiction to us? That's sure, and maybe all
Speaker 4: of reality the belief.
Speaker 3: But well, but but other The other way to look
Speaker 3: at that too is I don't have to believe the
Speaker 3: bus went by, right I don't. That's a to me
Speaker 3: that's sort of the you don't have to believe it.
Speaker 3: Here here's the here's the video from the street corner.
Speaker 3: Pull up and look at it yourself.
Speaker 2: You know what's there?
Speaker 4: Oh that's I'm saying. Yeah, if you want to the bus.
Speaker 4: The UFO is as real as UFO is as real
Speaker 4: as anything you can you can claim about experience in life.
Speaker 4: UFOs are that real, you know. So it's a yeah.
Speaker 4: So when people say always you know, and even the
Speaker 4: term believer is used as code for a lunatic in
Speaker 4: the media, you know, or it's a way of dismissing someone,
Speaker 4: you know. I remember when when when Leslie Kane and
Speaker 4: Ralph Window the twenty seventeen articles came out, how many
Speaker 4: other journalists referred to Leslie Kane as a UFO believer
Speaker 4: and that was code for don't father.
Speaker 5: To read the article.
Speaker 4: So I think about it, you know, like like somehow believing,
Speaker 4: you know, somehow you know, calling someone a believer us,
Speaker 4: even if that belief is based on you know, you
Speaker 4: know a lot of data and a lot of really
Speaker 4: credible eyewitnesses and a lot of you know, just uh
Speaker 4: proof you know everything then, you know. But but yes,
Speaker 4: you used that term. You know. It's kind of cool
Speaker 4: that I use that as the title of his book
Speaker 4: about John Mack, because I said, that term has been
Speaker 4: turned into such a pejorative.
Speaker 3: Sure, and you have a case where like if flat
Speaker 3: earthers wrote described those who believed, you know, again, if
Speaker 3: the world was round, when all of the empirical evidence
Speaker 3: suggests that in fact it is that they just referred
Speaker 3: to them as you know, like round Earth believers. It
Speaker 3: starts to take up write a different context. So so
Speaker 3: I appreciate your attempt to try to destigmatize that which
Speaker 3: is stigmatized, because I think then now we can have
Speaker 3: a reasonable discussion, you know, when you're not invalidating the
Speaker 3: other person just from the get you know, and you
Speaker 3: can then we can start to have like okay, now
Speaker 3: we can because there's nothing loaded about the term or
Speaker 3: nothing loaded about the experience. Once the videos were released
Speaker 3: and they changed UFO to UAPs, that that was like, okay,
Speaker 3: I see what.
Speaker 2: They're doing here. They're trying to make it seem like
Speaker 2: it's okay to believe in UAPs, but I'm not saying
Speaker 2: there's UFOs whatever distinction they thought they were drawn.
Speaker 4: Which yeah, which is ironic because that was the UFO
Speaker 4: was the term the military came up with, so they
Speaker 4: wouldn't have to take Wine's officer anymore, right, they they
Speaker 4: invented the UFO term.
Speaker 5: Yeah, No, it's.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's and it's amazing. I think I still
Speaker 4: someone's gonna a maze because I keep thinking that it's
Speaker 4: such an important story, and I know so many people
Speaker 4: that are really smart people, and I'm astonished that they've
Speaker 4: heard nothing about it at all. Right, you know, it's amazing,
Speaker 4: how how how even now, you know, when we've had
Speaker 4: in that New York Times article now and even especially
Speaker 4: now after the David Gresh story is broken, right, just
Speaker 4: how much the uh, the the the design stigmatization, you know,
Speaker 4: the way we're socially conditioned to not you know, as
Speaker 4: you know, sensible people right not even acknowledge the UFO story.
Speaker 4: It's not even like it's not even like you're not
Speaker 4: going to read the article. You're not going to perceive
Speaker 4: that there was an article. You can look at the
Speaker 4: newspaper and does not even see that there's an article
Speaker 4: on the page. It's like, how well conditioned we are?
Speaker 3: Yeah, pay attention sensible people otherwise known as Canadians, because
Speaker 3: you know, I always gett a kick out of the
Speaker 3: fact that and It comes up on the show all
Speaker 3: the time that people who self identify as Canadians often
Speaker 3: are the ones who kind of look down on the US,
Speaker 3: or at least the lower forty eight. It is kind
Speaker 3: of crazy, you know, And that there's Iay was used
Speaker 3: to jokingly refer to them coincidentally as America's hall monitors.
Speaker 3: You know, they were like they were there running too fat,
Speaker 3: where's your slip? You know, don't like somehow like they
Speaker 3: were in that position to do that. So how has
Speaker 3: this been perceived? How has your position been perceived in
Speaker 3: Canada versus the United States?
Speaker 4: It's hard to say because I don't live there anymore
Speaker 4: and have them for lunched right. But my, but my, definitely,
Speaker 4: my possession of Canada is moving much much much more
Speaker 4: slowly towards uh accepting reality of the UAP or UFOs
Speaker 4: than the US is. I mean, as you know, as
Speaker 4: gladial as the movement is here, but at least there,
Speaker 4: you know, the US government is stepping up, even though
Speaker 4: NOH is pying attention to it that the press is
Speaker 4: incovery it. I mean, the US government government officials are
Speaker 4: stepping up and really doing huge things right now, listen.
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