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Speaker 1: and the official Dallas Cowboys apt now Here are Bill Jones,
Speaker 1: Savannah Humoller, Everson Walls, and Mickey Spagnola.
Speaker 3: It's Christmas morning here on Mickshot. We open the presence
Speaker 3: later today, but we do know that the Cowboys will
Speaker 3: be playing in the Everson Walls Bowl just kick off
Speaker 3: the twenty twenty four season. Both question marks, question marks
Speaker 3: form over the heads of everyone the Everson Walls Bowl. Well, yes,
Speaker 3: of course Everson Walls was a Dallas Cowboy, but he
Speaker 3: was also a Cleveland Brown. The first iteration of the
Speaker 3: Cleveland Brown remind me. And welcome to mix Shots inside
Speaker 3: the SWBC podcast studio. Everybody's got a smile on their face,
Speaker 3: especially hockey Savannah over there. Savannah's Stars have a chance
Speaker 3: tonight to move to the Western Conference Final for the
Speaker 3: second straight year.
Speaker 4: Stars in five can we get it done? There you go,
Speaker 4: I'm so excited.
Speaker 2: As they have to go on down.
Speaker 3: Oh two man, Well that was the other Now again.
Speaker 5: No, I didn't think they'd be here at all. Oh yeah,
Speaker 5: I didn't think they'd be here at all. I'm like,
Speaker 5: oh man, yeah, they're gonna be like the Cowboys.
Speaker 6: I love it.
Speaker 7: They have the chance to close it out and we'll
Speaker 7: see if they get it done and then have a
Speaker 7: little time off before they play Vancouver or Edmonton.
Speaker 4: We're gonna find out.
Speaker 3: And that game starts at seven o'clock tonight and what
Speaker 3: else happens at seven o'clock to night?
Speaker 8: Schedule movie gets revealed.
Speaker 3: So make you are you going to have your focus
Speaker 3: on the stars or on where you're going to be
Speaker 3: in the fall?
Speaker 2: Both?
Speaker 3: Okay, you can multitask.
Speaker 2: That's right.
Speaker 8: Great, game will be on and finish my mix shots
Speaker 8: for Dallas Cowboys dot Com. Can't ignore the schedule.
Speaker 3: Right, No, that's exactly right.
Speaker 5: You don't have a heads up on the schedule. Yeah,
Speaker 5: you can't early release now.
Speaker 8: Yeah maybe six forty five.
Speaker 2: No, that's that's not but we can't.
Speaker 8: Do anything with it until seven.
Speaker 3: So, so how is everybody doing. It's been a busy
Speaker 3: last week or so, as we had rookie mini camp
Speaker 3: over the weekend and an opportunity yesterday for Mickey Savannah.
Speaker 9: Were you there?
Speaker 4: I was to talk to some coaches to probe.
Speaker 3: The new coaching staff, the old guys on the staff,
Speaker 3: the new guys on the staff.
Speaker 8: And Savannah was there for the mini camp too. Yep,
Speaker 8: rookie mini camp over.
Speaker 4: Yeah we can.
Speaker 7: We'll get into it, but I first want to ask ask,
Speaker 7: how is ever since because you've been I an.
Speaker 5: I missed you, guys, We missed you, guys. I was
Speaker 5: gone last week.
Speaker 2: What was that?
Speaker 3: You're playing golf?
Speaker 2: Playing golf? Yeah?
Speaker 10: What was I?
Speaker 2: I remember, well, I've had too golf turners.
Speaker 3: That's why we moved off of Monday this week so
Speaker 3: that we can.
Speaker 2: Exactly thank you so much. But can you give me
Speaker 2: a range?
Speaker 11: Then?
Speaker 5: How about that since I was just so accommodating. Now
Speaker 5: I had a good time. I have actually learned to
Speaker 5: play golf better.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 5: I played better than I used to play like Mickey.
Speaker 5: Now play a little bit better than that.
Speaker 8: All right, So and we play at Cliff's golf tournament.
Speaker 2: You're going to kill you.
Speaker 8: You can give me tips. You can give me tips.
Speaker 2: Can't you never play?
Speaker 8: You always riding?
Speaker 2: I know now I played that. I'm telling you, I'm
Speaker 2: getting better, getting better.
Speaker 5: I'm going to the driving range this evening, and uh no,
Speaker 5: I've actually gotten better. I couldn't believe I actually hit
Speaker 5: some shots that you know in the scramble that they use.
Speaker 5: So now I'm starting to to like hanging around with
Speaker 5: you guys. Otherwise I just sit around top trash man,
Speaker 5: you know, messing with people's game.
Speaker 2: My goal telling jokes, My goal.
Speaker 8: On those scrambles is to try to have them use
Speaker 8: five of my shots.
Speaker 2: That's not gonna happen. Not five.
Speaker 8: I've gotten to five before.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's well, put it don't count.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 2: I need you. I need that approach shot from one
Speaker 2: fifteen hours.
Speaker 8: Now you're asking for what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: I need that six for one fifty five.
Speaker 8: Where I come in handy is on the drive. Everybody
Speaker 8: screws up their drive and I just hundred yards right
Speaker 8: down in the middle.
Speaker 3: He rolls it right down the middle.
Speaker 5: I hate those guys. You're only there because everyone else
Speaker 5: messed up. That used to be. That is not me anymore,
Speaker 5: I feel.
Speaker 8: So it's like, go ahead, you guys, go for it.
Speaker 5: You know, we talk about you behind your back right
Speaker 5: when you do stuff like that.
Speaker 2: Why is that because you suck? I mean, that's what
Speaker 2: I was.
Speaker 3: That guy I played, How did you improve your game?
Speaker 8: Just nuances until he has tooke lessons first.
Speaker 5: No, no, I actually I played the guy uh at
Speaker 5: Thorn Tree and he taught me some shots, but I
Speaker 5: had already come with some some improvement. And uh, trust me, boys,
Speaker 5: I know about the six.
Speaker 2: R from so far out. Come on.
Speaker 5: I'm on it, all right, I'm on this baby, Damn right,
Speaker 5: damn man, I'm on it. I played this weekend, So
Speaker 5: I played this weekend at Bear Creek. So I'll take
Speaker 5: some videos for you.
Speaker 8: Well, and we've been finding out along how athletic Savannah is,
Speaker 8: and we can add one more skill.
Speaker 2: Horse there you go? All right, did you get it?
Speaker 4: Yes?
Speaker 12: We had?
Speaker 7: Okay, So just to paint the picture here, we had
Speaker 7: our Cowboys brand retreat this last Monday.
Speaker 4: So a whole bunch of us, me and Mickey had
Speaker 4: signed up for the horse back riding.
Speaker 7: They took us out to a big mega ranch past
Speaker 7: Glen Rose, Texas called Rough Creek, really really cool. So
Speaker 7: we went on a big trail ride. And I know
Speaker 7: we sent you guys some pictures of Mickey and I
Speaker 7: on the.
Speaker 4: Horse, but it was it was quite an adventure.
Speaker 3: Scare the horse, and savannahs sent that picture. I thought
Speaker 3: Mickey was training to uh for the Preakness this week.
Speaker 8: In I might have been, but the horse wasn't. I
Speaker 8: guarantee that.
Speaker 2: I thought Savannah lost the bed of something.
Speaker 8: At least at least Savannah.
Speaker 4: Savannah line was a little like to gallop a little bit.
Speaker 8: So Savannah's horse listened to Savannah. My horse didn't listen.
Speaker 3: What was your name? What was the name of your horse, Jeepz.
Speaker 4: Mine was Rea, my girl. She was the best.
Speaker 2: She was the best.
Speaker 4: Mickey. Mickey had a slow start on his horse. He
Speaker 4: you know, he was back at the trail.
Speaker 2: I don't like the horses, man. They don't listen.
Speaker 8: No, they don't.
Speaker 2: They don't.
Speaker 8: They're worse than.
Speaker 2: Their heads are so big. Bro. They scare me, man,
Speaker 2: they scare me.
Speaker 5: They you try to pet it and then they, you know,
Speaker 5: might move their head around and hitching the face.
Speaker 2: I'm not dealing with horses, bro, thin could have that.
Speaker 8: Mine wouldn't go, and it was like, come on, let's go,
Speaker 8: and it wouldn't go. And then somebody goes, wait, it's
Speaker 8: going into the bathroom.
Speaker 2: It was going was going.
Speaker 4: But the best part was just there was a point where.
Speaker 8: It was like a faucet.
Speaker 2: That's funny.
Speaker 4: The saddle it was like lopsided.
Speaker 7: So Vicky was like hanging on at one point for like,
Speaker 7: dear life, lean into the left, you did just so.
Speaker 8: But we made we made peace though he finally got us.
Speaker 2: You know what.
Speaker 8: The funny thing goes when we were coming back and
Speaker 8: we were within eyesight of the stables, them horses started
Speaker 8: going really like, this is almost over. We're getting there
Speaker 8: because we're going to rest. Yeah, yeah, it's pretty funny.
Speaker 2: That's all right. Had a time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, speaking of Riba Riba McIntyre football players on the
Speaker 3: no there are I can't see the football players on
Speaker 3: the football field because it looks like you know what,
Speaker 3: it reminds me.
Speaker 2: Ofde that's right.
Speaker 3: There's there's so many r v's out on the practice
Speaker 3: field right now. It reminded me of Barnhill South. Remember
Speaker 3: Barnhill South, which was Reunion Arena in Dallas, the old
Speaker 3: Southwest Conference basketball tournament when the University of Arkansas was
Speaker 3: in the Southwest Conference and they there would be so
Speaker 3: many r v's. Arkansas was always dominant basketball in the
Speaker 3: Southwest Conference and that was their deal. They would come
Speaker 3: down to Dallas for the for the Southwest Conference Basketball tournament,
Speaker 3: and there would be r v's throughout the parking lot
Speaker 3: at Reunion Arena in Dallas. That's what it looks like
Speaker 3: out here on the practice field right.
Speaker 8: Now, tomorrow right ay, CMS Awards, Reba McIntyre. They're already
Speaker 8: got the plaza going outside, food trucks, bands playing all day.
Speaker 8: We'll starting now, but the ceremonies tomorrow night.
Speaker 7: So they're doing like live music out on the plaza.
Speaker 7: They did it all day yesterday, all day today, tonight,
Speaker 7: and then yeah, tomorrow's the actual awards show.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, okay, the Academy of Country Music Awards, hosted
Speaker 3: by Reba mcintile. Wow, the fifty ninth ACM Awards. Uh
Speaker 3: tell me, Everson, how many of these artists do you
Speaker 3: have on your playlist? Jason Alden, Jelly Roll.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't have it, but I know who you.
Speaker 3: Cody Johnson, Miranda Lambert, Yes, Thomas Rhett, Chris Stapleton know
Speaker 3: all those?
Speaker 2: Okay, No, none of them sounds like a rapper.
Speaker 8: Before we get into this schedule, give a shout out
Speaker 8: to Bill Jones with The Mavericks, with everybody talking about
Speaker 8: how they melted down in the last game when they
Speaker 8: lost to Oklahoma City. Well, two things. Number One, when
Speaker 8: you're only winning by six or seven the most points
Speaker 8: in most of the fourth quarter, you didn't melt down.
Speaker 8: You got your ass beat. Number Two, the reason they
Speaker 8: melted down is their professional football player basketball players that
Speaker 8: can't make free throws. And Bill finally pointed it out.
Speaker 3: They were like, twelve twelve three. How does an NBA
Speaker 3: basketball team make that doesn't have shock on it make
Speaker 3: twelve out of twenty three free throwers?
Speaker 2: I bet I.
Speaker 8: Could go out there right now and hit twelve out
Speaker 8: of time.
Speaker 3: I guarantee. Well, I don't know you can, but I can't.
Speaker 2: I think I can.
Speaker 8: I can't.
Speaker 2: I wasn't that great free throw sho.
Speaker 3: You know what, I was a great free throw shoot
Speaker 3: Whenever there's a technical foul, I.
Speaker 4: Believe it.
Speaker 8: I was so bad and wrec league when I was
Speaker 8: missing so much, I'd go and do it underhand. See
Speaker 8: if it changed.
Speaker 3: You know what. You know what's pressure. This is my
Speaker 3: sophomore year in high school. This is pressure. Okay, you're
Speaker 3: playing in the JV game, and so now the varsity
Speaker 3: crowd is in the gym. Now I'm getting ready for
Speaker 3: the varsity game. And you get fouled at the end
Speaker 3: of the game and you're trailing by two and you
Speaker 3: have to make two free throws with no time left
Speaker 3: on the clock to force overtime.
Speaker 2: Is there anyone on the courts.
Speaker 3: And nobody's on the It's just you.
Speaker 2: It's just you. I love that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was my greatest claim to fame. And hit
Speaker 3: hit them both?
Speaker 2: Did win over time? Did you win it?
Speaker 3: I don't even remember if we were in the game
Speaker 3: or not. That's all I remember.
Speaker 8: You should have gone on and shot for Luca with
Speaker 8: ten seconds left.
Speaker 3: I mean, you know what what's going on with Luca?
Speaker 8: Well?
Speaker 3: First off about the free throws? How do you shoot
Speaker 3: a free throw?
Speaker 2: What do you mean?
Speaker 3: I mean, what's your form? What what do you do
Speaker 3: on a free throw? Okay, the ball is getting exactly
Speaker 3: Derek Lively, he gets the ball and shoots.
Speaker 2: That was it. You can't shoot a.
Speaker 3: Free throw with out You gotta.
Speaker 8: Get your rhythm, you know, and maybe get that seems right.
Speaker 2: Throw.
Speaker 3: I was taught at a young age by an old
Speaker 3: Dallas Chaparral named Cincy Powell.
Speaker 5: Oh, come on, man, you don't know anything about Cincy Powell,
Speaker 5: do you know?
Speaker 6: Since of course I know him, since Cincy Powell Clinic
Speaker 6: AB at the Lee Park Recreation Center in Irving, And
Speaker 6: and what I remember from that as an eight or
Speaker 6: nine year old was you dribble three times and then
Speaker 6: shoot the free throw and elbow in shoot the free throw.
Speaker 3: I taught it to my girls, and I need to
Speaker 3: go out there and teach it to the Dallas Mavericks.
Speaker 5: Sin Hey, So my country guy is Kenny Wayne Shepherd.
Speaker 5: That's the only song that I have. That's the only
Speaker 5: country I was.
Speaker 2: Trying to find.
Speaker 3: What's the song?
Speaker 2: Uh? Trust?
Speaker 5: Okay, it's called trust Trust. Not a bad song at all. Love,
Speaker 5: I love you. I love guitar solos. That's one thing
Speaker 5: that white people brought to my to my attention when
Speaker 5: we integrated, because I was just you know, r and
Speaker 5: bright soul. Then all of a sudden, here comes freaking Jimmy,
Speaker 5: you know, it comes, you know, led Zeppelin, and I'm
Speaker 5: falling in love with the with the lead guitar. I
Speaker 5: love the solos. Kenny Wayne Shepherd can play a solo.
Speaker 3: Okay, One one more basketball note? Okay, Hamilton Park I
Speaker 3: texted to you the other day and I said, who's
Speaker 3: the second greatest athlete out of Hamilton Park?
Speaker 2: I said, lot Fider Lockhart.
Speaker 3: Played for the New York I said, I was first,
Speaker 3: and you're yeah, That's why I asked him the second.
Speaker 3: You know there's a player in this then this Mavericks
Speaker 3: thunder series, it's from Highland Park, Hamilton because yeah, Casey Wallace,
Speaker 3: come on, who bought the Kyrie Irving shot the other
Speaker 3: night too?
Speaker 2: A player?
Speaker 5: Yeah, and for a rookie to be have such a
Speaker 5: strong role on this team, it gives us a whole
Speaker 5: lot of pride.
Speaker 8: And bottom line, on the free throws Oklahoma City, yeah
Speaker 8: they made twenty three or twenty four.
Speaker 2: Come home.
Speaker 5: Man, that's coaching though, right to me, that's coaching. You
Speaker 5: got to know what to work on. The Mavericks are
Speaker 5: missing free throws because they are not hit there missing
Speaker 5: free throws because it's not emphasized.
Speaker 9: You know.
Speaker 3: But Jason said in this post game press conference that
Speaker 3: the Mavericks they're human, and they practice free throws, and
Speaker 3: they practice putting on their uniform too. They practice putting
Speaker 3: on their uniform and they practice.
Speaker 8: Well do that.
Speaker 2: They got the un.
Speaker 8: Which By the way, why aren't you in.
Speaker 3: Oklahoma City because the Stars are going to win the
Speaker 3: series tonight. No, I'm got to because the schedules coming back.
Speaker 4: I forgot schedule. Yeah, the schedule show.
Speaker 8: So speaking of the schedule, yes, we know who they
Speaker 8: are playing. I will find out the order.
Speaker 3: Do you want to review who they're playing?
Speaker 8: You ought me to real quick home games? NFC East, Detroit,
Speaker 8: New Orleans, Tampa Bay, Houston, Baltimore, and Cincinnati.
Speaker 3: What's the easy way to remember that they're playing against?
Speaker 8: Oh, I see the first place, well, the first place
Speaker 8: finishers in the division. That they don't play the whole
Speaker 8: deal and then they play the.
Speaker 3: That's why they're playing Detroit.
Speaker 8: NFC South and the a f C North.
Speaker 3: So they've got Tampa Bay and New Orleans coming here
Speaker 3: from the from the n f C South and from
Speaker 3: the a f C North. They've got who coming here?
Speaker 8: A f C, a f C.
Speaker 3: North. Yes, they have coming here for the a f
Speaker 3: C North.
Speaker 8: No, it's not the a f C North, is it?
Speaker 2: Let me see Baltimore.
Speaker 8: It's it's schedule. It's Houston, Cincinnati, Pittsburgh, and Cleveland. Is
Speaker 8: that the North?
Speaker 13: Wow, they're playing Houston here here's the reason they're playing
Speaker 13: Houston here, Pittsburgh, Cleveland, Baltimore and Cincinnati.
Speaker 3: But which are the home games from the a f
Speaker 3: C North was my question.
Speaker 8: Baltimore and Cincinnati. There you go, Okay, sorry, all right,
Speaker 8: now he is the first place A right south.
Speaker 2: Or whatever.
Speaker 8: Now the road game road games from the San Francisco and.
Speaker 3: The reason they're playing San Francisco they were a first
Speaker 3: place team from the West.
Speaker 8: At Atlanta and Carolina, they're from the NFC South, and
Speaker 8: then Pittsburgh and Cleveland. It's very simplified how the NFL
Speaker 8: does it. So it's AFC North and NFC South for
Speaker 8: the Cowboys. Well, here's what you need to really understand,
Speaker 8: because the Cowboys, the Cowboys supposedly, well not supposedly technically,
Speaker 8: are tied for the twelfth most difficult schedule. Their opponents
Speaker 8: finished six and one forty three last year. But the
Speaker 8: key thing on that I noticed was number one. Eleven
Speaker 8: of the seventeen games are against teams with winning records.
Speaker 8: They also play nine games against teams that qualified for
Speaker 8: the playoff and three teams of the four that played
Speaker 8: in the conference title games. So the reason their strength
Speaker 8: of schedule is not greater than what it is is
Speaker 8: because number one, they're playing the team that had the
Speaker 8: worst record in the NFL last year Carolina finished two
Speaker 8: and fifteen, and the team that finished with the tie
Speaker 8: for the second worst record. They play them twice, Washington
Speaker 8: four and thirteen. So I figured out if you take
Speaker 8: those things out, those three games out the fourteen games
Speaker 8: against those opponents, they're winning percentage is five seventy one.
Speaker 8: It would be the toughest schedule in the league. But
Speaker 8: thanks to playing Carolina had dragged it down. And thanks
Speaker 8: to the Cowboys, these other teams have high strength of schedule,
Speaker 8: Like Cleveland starts off well, they get a twelve and
Speaker 8: five team they get to play. Cleveland supposedly has the
Speaker 8: toughest strength with schedule five forty seven to one thirty one.
Speaker 2: So the Cowboys helped Cleveland has the toughest schedule.
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, So the Cowboys play the top one, two, three, four,
Speaker 8: five of the top six teams with the hardest strength
Speaker 8: of schedule, and that's because their twelve and five record
Speaker 8: helps that out.
Speaker 3: Got that, got it, got it, and go my mind
Speaker 3: is mush now after all that.
Speaker 8: Well, you just need to remember it's not easy. It's
Speaker 8: not easy.
Speaker 3: And the Cowboys had like the easiest schedule last year.
Speaker 8: Yeah, supposedly, and they didn't take advantage of it other
Speaker 8: than to finish twelve and five.
Speaker 2: That's taking advantage of it.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I know. But you've got to take advantage of the.
Speaker 5: Playoff to be able to when you got to take
Speaker 5: advantage they did for the season.
Speaker 2: Yeah, which means nothing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, what's their strength is scheduled in the playoffs?
Speaker 8: Well it was nine.
Speaker 3: Eight, all right, we got plenty to get to. I
Speaker 3: want when to get your impressions on what you saw
Speaker 3: in the freshman orientation over the weekend and talking with
Speaker 3: the assistant coaches when we come back here on mix shots.
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Speaker 3: The fifty ninth ACM Awards are returning to Ford Center
Speaker 3: at the Star Infrasco, the world headquarters of your Dallas Cowboys,
Speaker 3: and will stream live on Prime video globally and exclusively
Speaker 3: hosted by sixteen time ACM Award winning entertainment icon Riba McIntyre.
Speaker 3: The ACM Awards will be free to stream live exclusively
Speaker 3: for a global audience across two hundred and forty plus
Speaker 3: country's and territories on Prime Video from Ford Center.
Speaker 8: That was impressive, very nice bill.
Speaker 3: That was just made up off off the Academy of
Speaker 3: Country Music website.
Speaker 2: You should do that for let's say he seemed too eager.
Speaker 3: I didn't say what time it starts, though, it starts
Speaker 3: at seven o'clock Central time.
Speaker 8: But there's a red carpet before that.
Speaker 4: Oh there is, Yes, there is.
Speaker 3: In country Music's Party of the Year is getting even
Speaker 3: bigger with post Malonese to make his debut on the
Speaker 3: legendary ACM Awards stage.
Speaker 2: He has, he does country music.
Speaker 4: He's he's dabbling.
Speaker 3: Grapevine, isn't it grape vine?
Speaker 8: Okay, he's going to drive over probably?
Speaker 4: All right? Back to football guys, how about that? All right?
Speaker 7: Rookie Minnie camp last week, Mickey was not here. I
Speaker 7: was here, so last Friday Saturday got to cover some
Speaker 7: of the portions of these rookies coming in and I
Speaker 7: just got to say, these guys were the most enthusiastic
Speaker 7: I have ever seen that, just smiling out on the
Speaker 7: football field, so happy to be there. Tyler Geiton just
Speaker 7: bride eyed, butchy tailed, ready to go. I guess he
Speaker 7: was like just really going at it.
Speaker 12: Like.
Speaker 3: Wow, why they were smiling because the veteran's worn't out there?
Speaker 4: Oh that's this week exactly, That's right, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 7: But very very impressed with a few guys who we
Speaker 7: talked to, Uh starting with Cooper Beebee and when Mickey
Speaker 7: had started talking about how much he really loved him,
Speaker 7: I think after talking to him, I realized why he
Speaker 7: really is just a no nonsense like down to it.
Speaker 7: So a lot of people were asking him, how are
Speaker 7: you making this transition to the center position, and fundamentally
Speaker 7: he was saying, I'm already starting to work on it.
Speaker 4: So I have some audio from.
Speaker 7: Him as far as where he starts in this process
Speaker 7: learning center.
Speaker 11: So right after Draft called me and said, you start
Speaker 11: working on center. So ever since then, I've been working.
Speaker 8: I need a little volume there. But yeah, I'm sure
Speaker 8: he's a guy that will take this very very seriously.
Speaker 7: He One of the questions that was asked was how
Speaker 7: he prepares fundamentally for this position. So he said a
Speaker 7: lot of it's self discipline, looking through the playbook, watching film,
Speaker 7: getting with coach Solari to visualize the kind of thing.
Speaker 7: It's really doing all that stuff on your own time
Speaker 7: to get you mentally prepared. But one thing that I
Speaker 7: really liked is when he was with the rookies at
Speaker 7: the hotel last week for camp. He was in the
Speaker 7: ballroom practicing snaps, and then before that he was with
Speaker 7: his dad and his brother practicing snaps before he.
Speaker 8: Got down there. Yeah, he's right to roll carry a
Speaker 8: football with him at all times.
Speaker 2: Right, try, that's good.
Speaker 8: How are we doing there, Chris, give me a second? Okay,
Speaker 8: So anyway, anybody else make an impression on you other
Speaker 8: than BB and understand folks that they really don't play football.
Speaker 8: There's twenty seven guys or whatever out there, first year
Speaker 8: guys that didn't really play, and then the rookies and
Speaker 8: rookie undrafted rookies, which, by the way, they signed twelve
Speaker 8: undrafted rookies. How many undefted rookies did you have in
Speaker 8: eighty one, twenty five? Twenty five that made it to
Speaker 8: training camp?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 8: How about pre chraine one.
Speaker 2: Hundred and twenty five rookies? Overall, there's twenty five dbs.
Speaker 3: Oh you mean DBB.
Speaker 8: One hundred and twenty five When you went for the
Speaker 8: two weeks before the veterans got there.
Speaker 5: I was twenty five. I told you I didn't. It
Speaker 5: was certain times I didn't get to a drill. He
Speaker 5: didn't even real Yeah, like, oh that looks good, Okay,
Speaker 5: I remember that because we didn't get a chance to
Speaker 5: play it.
Speaker 3: Did you look around and say, why is this guy here?
Speaker 5: Oh, yes, I should did, and that's what got me
Speaker 5: pissed off a lot.
Speaker 2: Uh huh.
Speaker 5: So yeah, when I was I was always pissed off
Speaker 5: before I got there because you know, I went undrafted,
Speaker 5: so you know, I was all I was just looking
Speaker 5: for reasons to be pissed off at that time.
Speaker 2: HBCU. You know it's a black thing. You know.
Speaker 5: You know a guy Kevin Miller from Michigan State. You
Speaker 5: had a guy from Ohio State who ran track. Hey,
Speaker 5: well come on in, Like, why do.
Speaker 3: You have to this right after the draft? Or was
Speaker 3: is a training camp? This is after the draft, right
Speaker 3: after the draft. So it was right in your camp camp,
Speaker 3: right the street from Hamilton.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah.
Speaker 8: And then I was I was searching to see how
Speaker 8: many draft choices and undrafted free agents made it to
Speaker 8: the start of training camp. I couldn't find the number.
Speaker 8: But the story that kept coming up was this guy
Speaker 8: really standing out that no one knew anything about. It
Speaker 8: was Everson Walls, and they wanted it was It wasn't
Speaker 8: a local story. And one of the things they asked
Speaker 8: him was, well, what kind of forty time do you
Speaker 8: have that everything goes four point seventy one.
Speaker 2: That's what they all told me. So that's what I
Speaker 2: took with me. I should have put it on my
Speaker 2: damn chest.
Speaker 3: So but yeah, I should have worn number forty seven.
Speaker 8: No, okay, So, yes, yesterday we got we got back
Speaker 8: in time for yeah, right, we got back in time
Speaker 8: yesterday for the assistant coaches interviews, both coordinators, and then
Speaker 8: the defensive assistance and the offensive assistance and uh top
Speaker 8: of importance, I guess ended up being and BB moving
Speaker 8: to center. Mike Clary talking about that, Geyiton moving from
Speaker 8: right tackle to left tackle, and the other thing that
Speaker 8: I got from Mike was, you know, just because they're
Speaker 8: moving BB to center, doesn't mean he just walks in
Speaker 8: and starts. And Solari was talking about how brock Hoffman
Speaker 8: will compete there TJ. Bass, not only competing learning guard
Speaker 8: but also trying to learn center, because they're going to
Speaker 8: need somebody to be a backup. Assuming BB does well
Speaker 8: there and Geyiton does well at left tackle, they'll need
Speaker 8: a backup center guard and that's going to come down
Speaker 8: probably between Bass and brock Hoffman.
Speaker 7: And then yeah, so Lari also was talking about how
Speaker 7: comfortable he has seen Geiton already like process that position.
Speaker 7: So I think he said it's kind of a smooth
Speaker 7: transition right now. But overall, the O line room is
Speaker 7: so great having the vets now in with the rookies
Speaker 7: because you have Zach Martin out there as the lead
Speaker 7: and then you have guys like you know, brock Hoffman
Speaker 7: and Terrence Steele and Tyler Smith that's in there. Finally
Speaker 7: in the room with these guys to give them a
Speaker 7: little bit more mental reps is.
Speaker 4: What he said.
Speaker 7: Not necessarily physical, but you start getting those mental reps
Speaker 7: of what it takes.
Speaker 8: And then another top of discussion was running back by committee.
Speaker 8: And my question is how big is the committee, right?
Speaker 8: And who's on the committee? Because you got all these
Speaker 8: guys right, and let's not forget Hunter Lipke. Does he
Speaker 8: part of the committee because he's a full back? And
Speaker 8: then are we assuming that Rico Dondele, you know, who's
Speaker 8: the lead dog. You know, you can't send them both
Speaker 8: out there at the same time. They're really happy what
Speaker 8: they've seen with Zeke so far. So you got Donnal
Speaker 8: Malik David questioning, well, yeah, how did he show up?
Speaker 8: How did he look?
Speaker 5: Well?
Speaker 8: All I know is he could hit home runs. In
Speaker 8: the home run without taking batting practice, right, So I
Speaker 8: and it was like, Okay, you come out and say
Speaker 8: running back by committee, Well what does that mean? Because
Speaker 8: if Zeke's playing well, you're gonna say, now you get
Speaker 8: ten carries a game and Donald gets fifteen. And what
Speaker 8: about Deuce Vaughn, what about Royce Freeman? You know, does
Speaker 8: he fit in? Does he make the team. So there's
Speaker 8: a lot of things. Basically what the coaches were saying
Speaker 8: is it'll sort itself out once we get the training camp,
Speaker 8: once we start playing preseason games on how they deal
Speaker 8: with the running back position. And I think the other
Speaker 8: topic that was top discussion was Mozzi Smith. You know,
Speaker 8: what can they get out of him? Zim said that
Speaker 8: Mazzi told him he's at three oh five, so I
Speaker 8: think last year he probably finished like two ninety maybe
Speaker 8: something like that when they draft him. He was three
Speaker 8: twenty eight when he got here, damn and lost weight
Speaker 8: as they went along, and they were thinking, well, maybe
Speaker 8: because they were kind of an attack defense, that he's
Speaker 8: trying to lose weight so he could be more versatile
Speaker 8: getting up feel like I sie right, But the bottom
Speaker 8: line with Zim is the nose tackle is a nose
Speaker 8: tackle and your ability. Your job is to stop the
Speaker 8: run or hold things up, so you don't, you know,
Speaker 8: get even if you get double team, you don't lose
Speaker 8: your space.
Speaker 5: And we lost big Man. So then he's going to
Speaker 5: be the guy Jonathan Hank, Yeah, he's going to be
Speaker 5: a new guy.
Speaker 8: They asked Zim about his temperament. He goes, what's that
Speaker 8: supposed to me? Just like he didn't know what they
Speaker 8: were talking about, and so he said, you know, da
Speaker 8: da da da. And then he got to the point
Speaker 8: he goes, I don't like mistakes, and he goes, and
Speaker 8: he's going to be on the sideline. That's where he's
Speaker 8: always been. And he said, and basically, I tell the guys,
Speaker 8: if you screw up and you come to the sideline,
Speaker 8: you better go to the other end of the bench
Speaker 8: because you don't want to get close to me. So
Speaker 8: that set that tone, and I thought Greg allis the
Speaker 8: new defensive end coach. Probably simplified Mozzy's job.
Speaker 2: He said.
Speaker 8: Basically, he said, put your hands on the center and
Speaker 8: be violent. That's all you got to do. So they
Speaker 8: feel like they're asking him to do more what he
Speaker 8: was doing at Michigan. Than what they were asking him
Speaker 8: to do this past season as a rookie.
Speaker 5: When he came out, he was considered I think they
Speaker 5: had a category.
Speaker 2: He was like the stud of the year or something.
Speaker 3: Right, the Bruce Feldman spreaks list three college football.
Speaker 5: Players when you have that kind of a you know,
Speaker 5: mantra going and you can lift all these weights and
Speaker 5: all of that.
Speaker 3: Now to buy new equipment in the Michigan the weight
Speaker 3: room for Mazi.
Speaker 8: So they should be this should be they want him
Speaker 8: square to the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 5: If you have that kind of a reputation, right then
Speaker 5: this should be simple.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean not easy, but simple. Yeah, he turned
Speaker 2: it out.
Speaker 8: Is one thing, put your irons on the center and
Speaker 8: be violent.
Speaker 3: And so the assignment that Zim gives Mazzi is as
Speaker 3: a one technique is hold the fort.
Speaker 8: In there exactly exactly.
Speaker 3: And by the way, they drafted a guy in the
Speaker 3: seventh round out of Auburn, Justin Rodgers, who fits that
Speaker 3: description to at six two, three hundred and thirty two pounds.
Speaker 8: Yeah, and evidently he was pretty good at that at Auburn.
Speaker 8: He had been at Kentucky first, is that right? Maybe
Speaker 8: he transferred to Auburn.
Speaker 2: So him losing weight, that was.
Speaker 8: I don't know if he did it. I don't. I
Speaker 8: have no idea.
Speaker 2: Because it's counterintuitively. Yes, exactly, so.
Speaker 8: Yeah, he lost over twenty almost thirty pounds.
Speaker 5: It's not.
Speaker 8: Over the course of the season. So so anyway.
Speaker 3: He started eating better, more potatoes, I guess, huh.
Speaker 8: And the other thing is when when So they're talking
Speaker 8: to Zim about Michael Parsons, and you know, is he
Speaker 8: a linebacker? Is the defensive end And the most Mike
Speaker 8: would allude to is he'll be in different spots.
Speaker 2: Smart, So I wouldn't give him anything.
Speaker 8: The idea, and I think he said this a couple
Speaker 8: of times. He goes, we want to make sure they
Speaker 8: have to turn their protection away from Michaeh Parsons. So
Speaker 8: the way they line up, there are protections going to
Speaker 8: have to go somewhere else. Whether they're going to be
Speaker 8: in trouble, well, we need.
Speaker 5: To word not necessarily worry about fooling them, but make
Speaker 5: sure that we don't get fooled. Right, So he has
Speaker 5: to show up on his recognition talking about Parsons, he
Speaker 5: has to recognize better we're depending on him, not just
Speaker 5: for sacks. There are times when he gets in there, Yeah,
Speaker 5: we need you to stop to run now, And when
Speaker 5: he goes in there, his mentality seems to be one sided.
Speaker 5: You gotta you gotta be ready for everything. That's gotta
Speaker 5: He's got to show some matuity in that regard in
Speaker 5: this camp, in this this camp, because this is his
Speaker 5: third year.
Speaker 2: Am I right?
Speaker 5: Yes, he needs to show that he can be more
Speaker 5: than one trick, more than one trick fourth year, fourth,
Speaker 5: fourth year. Wow, it's definitely time for him to show
Speaker 5: something better.
Speaker 8: Three years of thirteen thirteen or more sacks thirteen.
Speaker 5: Thirteen and a half, fourteen sacks look good, good for stats,
Speaker 5: but you got to do.
Speaker 8: More to run And as then pointed out, we all
Speaker 8: we all know this. He goes if you got him
Speaker 8: on the line of scrimmage, chances are they're going to
Speaker 8: run right at him.
Speaker 2: That's right.
Speaker 8: If that's what you know, his responsibility is. You don't
Speaker 8: want you don't want him to track down from behind.
Speaker 8: You go right at him and at one hundred and
Speaker 8: fifty one hundred and fifty, two fifty or two fifty
Speaker 8: five against three thirty. Right, it's a bad mismatch.
Speaker 2: But you got to be smarter.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean Freenni Dwhight Freennie about the same size.
Speaker 5: I mean, he was a force to be wackoned.
Speaker 8: But his body was different than Parsons. Parsons not built
Speaker 8: like a defensive end. He's built like a linebacker to me.
Speaker 2: But you gotta use what's good for you. First of all.
Speaker 5: He's got to be smart enough to be in position.
Speaker 5: That's number one. Second ball, that's when you use your
Speaker 5: your athletic ability after you mentally put yourself in position.
Speaker 5: That's just football, right, And he's not. He's not developing
Speaker 5: quickly mentally as as I would like for him too.
Speaker 8: And even if they run at you, that's fine, Just
Speaker 8: don't get out of position right now.
Speaker 2: He's like you said, hold down the edge. Yeah he
Speaker 2: does not.
Speaker 5: Sometimes he just opens up the door, right because he's
Speaker 5: looking for that sack. I'm sure that.
Speaker 2: I'm sure Zimmo is going to work work on him
Speaker 2: with that. I'm sure.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 7: More of the focus of what Yeah, we can I
Speaker 7: continue with this right.
Speaker 3: We started this segment with Tyler Bebe, the third round
Speaker 3: draft pick out of Kansas State, and I understand from
Speaker 3: producers Supreme that we might be able to actually hear
Speaker 3: from Cooper BB.
Speaker 11: Now, so right after draft, coach sorry called me and said,
Speaker 11: you know, start working on center. So ever since then,
Speaker 11: I mean I've been working on my snaps that kind
Speaker 11: of thing, and doing doing different zoom calls and stuff
Speaker 11: before this, just to get ready and just preparing myself,
Speaker 11: you know, doing the stuff at home, just to get
Speaker 11: ready to you know, make sure I know myself.
Speaker 2: It just depends.
Speaker 11: I mean, just I mean, anybody that'll that'll catch I mean,
Speaker 11: that's really the biggest thing for me is I mean
Speaker 11: just any time, like I'll be in the hotel, I'll
Speaker 11: be taking snaps, you know, in the ballroom that kind
Speaker 11: of thing. So just anytime I can just oh yeah,
Speaker 11: absolutely yeah. I had my dad out there catching my
Speaker 11: little brother and just you know, whoever was available.
Speaker 7: So fun fact about Cooper BB. His younger brother plays
Speaker 7: at Kansas State now, so he Cooper BB he wanted
Speaker 7: to stay a fifth year to play a season with
Speaker 7: his brother.
Speaker 4: And then another fun fact.
Speaker 7: About Cooper is he's actually getting his master's degree right
Speaker 7: now in education. So he's gonna have quite a year
Speaker 7: being a rookie and getting his master's degree.
Speaker 2: Could you see the kids. Hey a teacher, he's huge.
Speaker 8: All right?
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Speaker 3: All right, nickey, we're running out of time here. On
Speaker 3: this edition of Mixship, I found my quote from Zim J.
Speaker 3: Mozzi Smith.
Speaker 8: He said, obviously he's a high draft pick. I heard
Speaker 8: that he kind of struggled last year. I loved what
Speaker 8: he said, I heard struggled. He said, we're going to
Speaker 8: start with the basics. Get him in a good stance,
Speaker 8: get him using his hands the right way, getting his
Speaker 8: footwork the right way, and kind of go from there.
Speaker 8: I talked to him a little bit meaning on Monday,
Speaker 8: and I asked him what weight do you feel comfortable at?
Speaker 8: And he said that I'm told that he's three oh five.
Speaker 8: So we'll stuck art there. He said, we got to
Speaker 8: get him to that point first, get his strength back,
Speaker 8: and then we'll let him go out there on the field.
Speaker 8: We anticipate that he's going to be a good player
Speaker 8: like he was in college. But that's how we have
Speaker 8: to go, meaning he's probably not going to get on
Speaker 8: the field and do anything in the off season until
Speaker 8: training camp since he had the shoulder surgery. So yeah,
Speaker 8: yeah he did.
Speaker 2: So what I mean, I think it was.
Speaker 8: Labor hom or whatever in your shoulder that he had
Speaker 8: it after that after the he and uh schoolmaker schoonmaker.
Speaker 3: Yeah, top two picks from last year.
Speaker 8: So yeah, both had shoulders repair now. So so anyway,
Speaker 8: that was kind of what Zim said, and he goes,
Speaker 8: you know, he has to be in a He said
Speaker 8: he was trying to be an attacking three technique to
Speaker 8: get up the field. We're going to be able to
Speaker 8: play blocks a little bit more than that and try
Speaker 8: not to get reads, so linebackers know what gaps they're
Speaker 8: supposed to fill instead of the offensive lineman getting through
Speaker 8: where the gap was supposed to be.
Speaker 5: So that's h I recall when I was with the Giants,
Speaker 5: one of their strengths was attacking the bubble break, busting
Speaker 5: the bubble so that guard, when that guard, those guards
Speaker 5: come off the line of scrimmage, you're going to be
Speaker 5: met with a linebacker and his head's going to be
Speaker 5: right in your face. And that's how guys like Steve
Speaker 5: diasse Pepper Johnson, those guys, they they would weigh in
Speaker 5: at around two fifty and after way in they probably
Speaker 5: put on about another fifteen pounds, you know, And so
Speaker 5: when they played the game, they were about two to
Speaker 5: sixty five. And so you're meeting that guard and you're
Speaker 5: busting that bubble. That's why there was no gap in there.
Speaker 5: That's why we were always number.
Speaker 2: One in defense.
Speaker 5: They he made sure and eliminated that guard's released down
Speaker 5: the field.
Speaker 8: The other thing I noticed I got my first chance
Speaker 8: to see Jeff Segon. Is that how you said, defensive
Speaker 8: line coach? And he looks like a defensive line man
Speaker 8: and he's got those defensive lineman eyes. And he walked
Speaker 8: in and somebody asked him kind of an off the
Speaker 8: cuff question, just trying to be funny, and he looked
Speaker 8: at him and stared, he goes, so that's how we're
Speaker 8: gonna begin. And I said, oh, okay, this is a sense, dude.
Speaker 7: When at rookie minicamp, we could see him in the
Speaker 7: backfield with the d lineman and he I mean, he
Speaker 7: was down with his hands on the field, just like
Speaker 7: walking him through every single step. So he has that
Speaker 7: player mentality and.
Speaker 8: Him Well, you got two former players coaching the defensive
Speaker 8: line with Greg Allis and him going about their business.
Speaker 2: Greg's guy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, he's a nice guy.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, worked out pretty well when he had a former
Speaker 3: player coaching the defensive line back in the sixties and seventies.
Speaker 3: Here Ernie Serietner.
Speaker 8: Yeah, hall of.
Speaker 2: Famer, the youngest Hall of Fame in history.
Speaker 8: He was pretty no nonsense too. You didn't want to
Speaker 8: mess with Ernie.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't ever remember him smiling that much, that's right. Yeah, there.
Speaker 8: Actually, you had a bunch of guys that didn't smile.
Speaker 8: I don't think Gene Stallings was smiling much now.
Speaker 2: But Jimmie was the coolest. Jerry was the nicest guy.
Speaker 5: Remember Dick. He was that my rookie year. I was
Speaker 5: I had too much going on. I don't remember a
Speaker 5: special team.
Speaker 8: Yeah, they didn't make you play special teams.
Speaker 5: They did, But I don't remember the guy. I don't
Speaker 5: remember him.
Speaker 8: One year.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I should have remembered that eighty one, right, he
Speaker 5: was there. Yeah, I don't remember.
Speaker 2: I hadn't yet. I should I should remember that. That's crazy.
Speaker 8: Coach Myers was pretty serious.
Speaker 2: Yeah, please don't. That's the least of what you call him.
Speaker 2: He was not fun.
Speaker 3: Yeah didks last year as a coach here was in
Speaker 3: eighty one.
Speaker 2: That's crazy.
Speaker 3: He was his system head coach and special teams coordinator.
Speaker 5: Life, Man, tell you, I haven't really been busy all right,
Speaker 5: final minute or so?
Speaker 8: Here?
Speaker 3: You got a mix shot for us? Give us, give
Speaker 3: us something to close on.
Speaker 5: I got a mixed shot. Brady's making all this damn money.
Speaker 5: He's going to be the announcer for the Cowboys yep
Speaker 5: so and seventy five million dollars for ten years.
Speaker 3: So do you think Tyler Goyton still had the smile
Speaker 3: on his face at practice after the schedule release came
Speaker 3: out that the Cowboys are opening at Cleveland and Miles Garrett.
Speaker 7: I don't know about the smile, but he's probably like,
Speaker 7: let's get to work. He moved down here two days
Speaker 7: after he got drafted and was like, let's start training.
Speaker 7: So he was over at the sports academy next door
Speaker 7: just keeping He's like ready to roll.
Speaker 2: Did he have that much enthusiasm at you? I don't recall, Okay.
Speaker 3: Well, he wasn't there that long. He was just I
Speaker 3: mean he started five games is second to last year there.
Speaker 5: Bill can be kind of a joke when it comes
Speaker 5: to his alumni. You know, he really expects a lot.
Speaker 5: He is still just disappointing Jalen. You know, he's not
Speaker 5: crazy about guy. I don't understand that was you were
Speaker 5: like I thought you were like boom of Sona.
Speaker 3: I think most people are like that. Mickey. Are you
Speaker 3: crazy about all of your Missouri players that come out?
Speaker 8: I'm objective about it, That's right.
Speaker 3: That's what I am. I'm objective about.
Speaker 8: Him because they they the Cowboys signed uh Pete, the
Speaker 8: Missouri running back. Yeah he was a backup. Okay, so
Speaker 8: they let the best one get to San Francisco who
Speaker 8: led the sec and rushing and didn't get drafted. So
Speaker 8: don't feel too bad.
Speaker 3: But maybe Nathaniel Pete was just as good. He just
Speaker 3: didn't get the opportunity that Trader did.
Speaker 8: Know he had the opportunity of the year before and
Speaker 8: struggled at times, let's put it that way.
Speaker 3: So he started his career at Stanford, yes he did,
Speaker 3: and then about on special teams.
Speaker 8: He was a local guy.
Speaker 5: Oh you shaved. Oh my god, thank you jeez. He
Speaker 5: was looking like a bumma out of here. Man, you
Speaker 5: say you look good.
Speaker 2: Your hair like there's something different.
Speaker 8: I want to tell you though, at least you're in
Speaker 8: the top three, because only three people noticed that I
Speaker 8: had shaved, or at least said something yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 8: you're number three. Well good, all that grade is going right.
Speaker 8: So so I'll leave you with this. When Jeff Blasco
Speaker 8: was talking about Zeke and they asked him about, you know,
Speaker 8: short yards and stuff like that, and he goes yeah,
Speaker 8: he goes, uh, he's a can of kick ass in
Speaker 8: that department. M So Zeke will find his way on
Speaker 8: the field. I guarantee you. You also called him the eraser.
Speaker 8: Meeting on third Down blocking past Protection said he's kind
Speaker 8: of it's.
Speaker 5: Gonna be a year grinding. This is gonna be a
Speaker 5: grinding year. It's gonna be a tough grinding.
Speaker 8: Well, it's gonna be a to schedule.
Speaker 2: We'll be off for.
Speaker 3: Trust well Monday, Yes, that's right, and that's when we
Speaker 3: reconvene here on mix shots Monday at eleven am and
Speaker 3: enjoy your scale to release stars clinching MAVs getting a
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