WEBVTT - Episode 1: His Own Private Idaho

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<v Speaker 1>This is an I Heart original. It's the fourth of

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<v Speaker 1>July in Hailey, Idaho, and the town's residents are lining

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<v Speaker 1>the streets, although admittedly the streets aren't that big, so

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't take many people to accomplish that. Haley is

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<v Speaker 1>a small town. It's got a population of about five thousand,

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<v Speaker 1>and on this sunny Independence Day in the residents are

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<v Speaker 1>probably getting more commotion, more action than they've seen all year.

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<v Speaker 1>Every year. We had a nice Fourth of July parade.

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<v Speaker 1>Wayne A. Dare is among those watching from the sidelines.

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<v Speaker 1>Wayne is the news editor of the Wood River Journal,

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<v Speaker 1>one of the papers of record in this part of Idaho,

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<v Speaker 1>And while he's standing there taking in the site, he

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<v Speaker 1>sees something in the parade that's never quite left his mind.

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<v Speaker 1>It's Bruce Willis Diehard, Bruce Willis moonlighting, Bruce Willis Planet Hollywood.

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<v Speaker 1>Bruce Willis a guy who makes twenty million dollars a movie.

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<v Speaker 1>He was in the parade Roddy, this big, beautiful probably

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<v Speaker 1>of a hundred thousand dollar horse. You know, he kind

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<v Speaker 1>of joyed the parade, riding right down the middle of

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<v Speaker 1>main Street, and literally the middle of main street. Bruce

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<v Speaker 1>Willis is not only in the parade. He's leading the

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<v Speaker 1>parade dressed as a cowboy. It's not like Bruce Willis

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<v Speaker 1>was a Western star though, not like Clint Eastwood or

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<v Speaker 1>John Wayne A tough guy, sure, but Bruce Willis grew

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<v Speaker 1>up in New Jersey. I can't remember if you had

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<v Speaker 1>a cowboy hat on, but it seemed like he was,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, kind of Western e He had cowboy boots

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<v Speaker 1>at the best I remember, like a grand marshal. Willis

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<v Speaker 1>waves to the crowd, turning his attention from one side

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<v Speaker 1>of the street to the other, and the people are

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<v Speaker 1>eating it up. He was having a hell of a

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<v Speaker 1>good time. You could tell from his body language and

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<v Speaker 1>from his smile, and you know, he was waving to

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<v Speaker 1>the crowd like a homecoming queen. And uh, our photographer

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<v Speaker 1>got a really nice image of then we put it

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<v Speaker 1>on the front page. But Wayne isn't that impressed, not

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<v Speaker 1>by Willis anyway. I mean, I enjoy looking at the

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<v Speaker 1>horse board and I looked at Bruce Willis. It was

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<v Speaker 1>just such a beautiful creature. Now there's probably a level

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<v Speaker 1>of celebrity where someone feels diminished leading a small town

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<v Speaker 1>parade A kind of has it come to this melancholy,

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<v Speaker 1>but that's not what's happening here. Willis could not be happier.

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<v Speaker 1>The smile, the trademark smirk that's familiar to hundreds of

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<v Speaker 1>millions of people, is genuine. He's totally in his element,

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<v Speaker 1>totally confident in his status as one of the biggest

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<v Speaker 1>box office attractions in the world. One hit like Pulp

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<v Speaker 1>Fiction follows another like die Hard with a Vengeance, which

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<v Speaker 1>is in theaters at that very moment. There's almost a

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<v Speaker 1>kind of irony in someone as famous as Willis ambling

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<v Speaker 1>along on horseback in Idaho. Would Sylvester Stallone have done this?

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<v Speaker 1>Would Harrison Ford? Would Meryl Straight be seen riding at

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<v Speaker 1>Clydesdale in a town with just a handful of traffic lights.

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<v Speaker 1>Probably not. But Bruce Willis isn't here to preserve the

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<v Speaker 1>mirage of the Hollywood actor, which is in these pre

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<v Speaker 1>Instagram days, something that still feels larger than life. At

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<v Speaker 1>age forty, He's not worried about denting his reputation in

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<v Speaker 1>the movie business, which has never been stronger. He's John McClain,

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<v Speaker 1>one of the most iconic action here of the late

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<v Speaker 1>twenty century. He's married to Demi Moore, making him one

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<v Speaker 1>half of the classic nineties power couple troupe. There's not

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<v Speaker 1>a street in America Willis could walk down or gallop

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<v Speaker 1>down without being recognized. But here in Haley, Willis believes

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<v Speaker 1>he's found the one place in the world he can

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<v Speaker 1>go to be well himself, and Haley has welcomed him

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<v Speaker 1>with open arms. But when Wayne A. Dair published that

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<v Speaker 1>photograph of Willis on the horse on the front page

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<v Speaker 1>of the Wood River Journal, maybe that's when both Willis

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<v Speaker 1>and Haley realized things weren't going to be easy. We

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<v Speaker 1>got a call that David was published from one of

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<v Speaker 1>his angry attorneys saying we had no right to publish

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<v Speaker 1>his image because he based his living based on selling

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<v Speaker 1>that image. And day gorham Field is that called on

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<v Speaker 1>paper day I was not there in the morning. Then,

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<v Speaker 1>paraphrasing the conversation, said, you know, when somebody rides down

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<v Speaker 1>the middle of Main Street on our horse in the

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<v Speaker 1>fourth a job parade, we can take their picture. We

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<v Speaker 1>damn what I want to And that's the last we

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<v Speaker 1>heard her. Yeah, not exactly. For Bruce Willis, Haley was

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<v Speaker 1>the thing he had been searching for since he became

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<v Speaker 1>a household name, a place to escape, a place he

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<v Speaker 1>could mold and shape to fit his needs, to make

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<v Speaker 1>it not just a small idahotel, but a place worthy

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<v Speaker 1>of being the home of a global movie star. He

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<v Speaker 1>found it in tiny Haley, Idaho, population five thousand, well

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<v Speaker 1>five thousand and one. For I Heart Radio, I'm Anishwarts.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Haleywood, an I Heart original podcast. On my podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>Noble Blood, I tell the true stories of historical royals.

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<v Speaker 1>This series is a little different, a few centuries and

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<v Speaker 1>an ocean apart. It's a story of Hollywood royalty, about

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<v Speaker 1>a man who, for the better part of two decades,

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<v Speaker 1>had millions of people lining up for his movies, making

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<v Speaker 1>him one of the highest paid actors in the world,

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<v Speaker 1>and about someone who was a brand, the everyman action

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<v Speaker 1>star who could seamlessly switch from firing machine guns to

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<v Speaker 1>intimate character dramas, a man who got so famous he

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<v Speaker 1>ran out of places to just be Bruce until he

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<v Speaker 1>came to Haley. What happened next is something the people

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<v Speaker 1>of Haley have never been eager to talk about until now.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a strange story about Hollywood and identity, the need

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<v Speaker 1>for privacy, and the trappings of ego and much much

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<v Speaker 1>more episode one his own Private Idaho. Of all the

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<v Speaker 1>places near Sun Valley, Idaho, Haley is the most serene.

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<v Speaker 1>Cars don't speed, people don't walk too briskly. Depending on

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<v Speaker 1>where you are, the only noise you hear would be

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<v Speaker 1>the gentle current of the Big Wood River. Some places

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<v Speaker 1>can seem idyllic, but only in your imagination, only when

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<v Speaker 1>the mood is just right. Haley is not like that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the real thing. The town was founded in the

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<v Speaker 1>late eighteen hundreds by John Haley, a gold prospector who

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<v Speaker 1>thought that the area would soon be a hub of

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<v Speaker 1>mining and transportation. And that's what happened. For a while,

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<v Speaker 1>Hailey was full of blue collar workers who got their

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<v Speaker 1>hands dirty and then closed the local bars. Businesses catered

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<v Speaker 1>to the miners. Then the mining gave way, and only

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<v Speaker 1>families remained. By the early nineties nine nineties, it was

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<v Speaker 1>the kind of town where when you turn onto Main

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<v Speaker 1>Street you see mountains where you'd half expect to see

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<v Speaker 1>Bob Ross putting the finishing touches on the scene, where

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<v Speaker 1>one of the landmarks is a museum holding one of

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<v Speaker 1>the world's largest collections of political campaign buttons, where most

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<v Speaker 1>of the residential streets are lined with trees, and homes

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<v Speaker 1>are set twenty five ft from the street to keep

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<v Speaker 1>their occupants safe. Where people at the diner know you,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know them, and probably their siblings and parents

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<v Speaker 1>and kids too. When you hear the phrase small town values,

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<v Speaker 1>someone is thinking of a place like Haley. It's May

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<v Speaker 1>Street was hallmark movie quaint, with a surprising amount of

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<v Speaker 1>traffic thanks to the Sun Valley Ski Resort, a kind

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<v Speaker 1>of alternative to Aspen about fifteen miles away. A lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people would go through Haley, but not many stopped.

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<v Speaker 1>If they did, they'd see a lot of historic buildings

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<v Speaker 1>made of brick, some still with tin ceilings. An old bar,

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<v Speaker 1>still home to career drinkers, stood tall nearby. A rundown

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<v Speaker 1>movie theater opened since the nineteen thirties, but in dire

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<v Speaker 1>need of renovation. A community planner once described Haley as

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<v Speaker 1>being just one breaststroke away from being vibrant, like a

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<v Speaker 1>painting that needs just one more color to come to life,

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<v Speaker 1>or maybe someone with a vision. That's what made such

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<v Speaker 1>an interesting year. That was when a number of proper

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<v Speaker 1>these around town that had been sitting dormant or ignored

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<v Speaker 1>for years began to rumble with activity. Someone was buying

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<v Speaker 1>them That old miner's bar, the Mint was picked up,

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<v Speaker 1>so was the building next to it, which used to

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<v Speaker 1>house Mama Riley's Pizza. So was the Rundown Movie Theater.

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<v Speaker 1>Other commercial buildings followed, some promising but empty lots too.

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<v Speaker 1>It was clearly a concerted effort to acquire choice pieces

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<v Speaker 1>of Haley, but for what purpose no one knew. A

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<v Speaker 1>cursory search revealed that the company behind the purchases had

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<v Speaker 1>a strange name. Here's Wayne A. Dare. We kept hearing

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<v Speaker 1>that a corporation named x may I x in a

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<v Speaker 1>Y was making offers to to buy some properties right

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<v Speaker 1>on Main Street, and we couldn't find out who was

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<v Speaker 1>the force behind XNY the xnay Investment Trust. That's the

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<v Speaker 1>pig Latin version of Nicks, which means to put a

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<v Speaker 1>stop to something. It was kind of strange. Everyone in

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<v Speaker 1>Haley was used to knowing everyone else's business. The fact

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<v Speaker 1>that xnay was a mystery was well a mystery. Rumor

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<v Speaker 1>had it that Kmart was after some of the lots.

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<v Speaker 1>A month went by and then two Haley wondered if

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<v Speaker 1>they would soon be overrun by national chain stores. Goodbye

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<v Speaker 1>main Street. What Haley needed was someone who could sniff

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<v Speaker 1>out the truth, someone who could peel back the layers

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<v Speaker 1>of bureaucratic red tape, someone who could figure out who

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<v Speaker 1>was behind XNA. This was a job for Wayne's top gun, C. J.

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<v Speaker 1>Carra Margin, reporter for the Wood River Journal, and he

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<v Speaker 1>was just a bulldog at at going after the stories

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<v Speaker 1>and uh he did some really outstanding work for a

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<v Speaker 1>you know, small town newspaper. Carra Margin worked the phones

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<v Speaker 1>and came to an unlikely suspect, a guy named Joe McAllister,

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<v Speaker 1>a relatively recent transplant to the area. McAllister was behind

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<v Speaker 1>x Nay for what purpose, care Margin wasn't quite sure,

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<v Speaker 1>but the acquisitions were definitely newsworthy. Someone was looking to

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<v Speaker 1>invest in Haley in a big way. The denizens of

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<v Speaker 1>Haley were talking. It was the kind of diner and

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<v Speaker 1>coffee shop talk that the town hadn't enjoyed since Bruce

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<v Speaker 1>Willis bought a home there a few years prior. Willis's

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<v Speaker 1>private home was in the housing subdivision known as the

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<v Speaker 1>Flying Heart Ranch. Flying Heart Ranch was a place between

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<v Speaker 1>two mountains. A river literally ran through it. With his

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<v Speaker 1>wife Demi Moore and a growing family. Willis had escaped

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<v Speaker 1>to Haley to avoid the spotlight cast on the mega

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<v Speaker 1>famous Willis was a huge star thanks to a hit

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<v Speaker 1>detective show, Moonlighting and then the die Hard films. So

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<v Speaker 1>a quiet house in the mountains to get away from

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<v Speaker 1>it all. Who doesn't want that? He was just outside

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<v Speaker 1>of town. You know, I'm not quite sure i'd called

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<v Speaker 1>her mansion, but he probably was was close to one.

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<v Speaker 1>And I've never been one whose star struck. I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>walk across the street commutic as movie star. But I

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<v Speaker 1>liked his uh TV series bood Lighting. I love die

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<v Speaker 1>Hard and some of these other movies at all. Bruce

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<v Speaker 1>Willis this year, that's kind of fun. He wasn't in

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<v Speaker 1>the news much for a couple of years. He just

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<v Speaker 1>was living there now. Reporter c J. Carra Margin was

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<v Speaker 1>on the trail of Haley's next big story, the XNA

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<v Speaker 1>property grab, but Joe McAllister was elusive. He wouldn't say

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<v Speaker 1>much of anything. Then Cara Margin noticed something something big.

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<v Speaker 1>C J. Uh, you got some paperwork on Xnay and

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<v Speaker 1>noticed that there was a mailing address attached to the company,

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<v Speaker 1>and he did a little uh research and realized that

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<v Speaker 1>the the address for the company was the same post

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<v Speaker 1>office box that the Willis's head. So you know, put

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<v Speaker 1>two and two together and you got a pretty solid

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<v Speaker 1>for there. Bruce Willis was the one on the spending spree.

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<v Speaker 1>This was unusual. Sun Valley definitely attracted celebrities, some of

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<v Speaker 1>whom bought seasonal or permanent homes in the area. Arnold

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<v Speaker 1>Schwarzenegger had a place nearby, so did Clint Eastwood. But

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<v Speaker 1>that's all they did. They bought homes, old bars, not

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<v Speaker 1>empty lots, not vacant drug stores. So what exactly was

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<v Speaker 1>Willis doing? Carr Margin tried to dig deeper, but he

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't get anywhere, couldn't breach the wall of silence surrounding

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<v Speaker 1>Haley's most famous resident. Then suddenly he didn't have to.

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<v Speaker 1>Dan gorm got a call. He was the papers editor

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<v Speaker 1>and publisher. Carr Margin's phone rang two. It was Bruce Willis,

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<v Speaker 1>But instead of explaining what he was doing, he tried

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<v Speaker 1>to get them to lay off the story, to brush

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<v Speaker 1>aside the fact that Bruce Willis was becoming Haley's premier

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<v Speaker 1>real estate investor. The Wood River Journal wasn't going to

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<v Speaker 1>do that. Bruce Willis, once a quiet resident of Haley,

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<v Speaker 1>was now suddenly in probably a developer. Not only that

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<v Speaker 1>he had an entire company devoted to his business interests

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<v Speaker 1>in Haley, a company that had seemingly materialized out of nowhere,

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<v Speaker 1>and he had a growing staff attending to all of it.

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<v Speaker 1>It had been happening right under Haley's collective knows Willis

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<v Speaker 1>did let a few things slip out. He told Gorham

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<v Speaker 1>he didn't want to live his life in the public eye,

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<v Speaker 1>that he had moved to Haley to avoid exactly that.

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<v Speaker 1>Willis also told Gorham that while he understood the interest,

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<v Speaker 1>he didn't want to be price gouged by sellers who

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<v Speaker 1>had built the movie Star. However, you know, he was

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<v Speaker 1>buying properties right on Main Street, and he was going

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<v Speaker 1>to have to go to the Planning and Zoning Commission

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<v Speaker 1>and the city Council for you know, for any kind

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<v Speaker 1>of approval. So, uh we failed. It was our duty,

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<v Speaker 1>our journalistic responsibility to let our readers know exactly who

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<v Speaker 1>was buying property on Main Street. And uh, I think

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<v Speaker 1>he was less than happy with us over that. Willis

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<v Speaker 1>and the Wood River Journal would soon have a dust

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<v Speaker 1>up that made the carra Margin incident seem quaint in comparison.

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<v Speaker 1>It makes you wonder what exactly happened to Bruce Willis

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<v Speaker 1>that made him so reluctant to deal with the press,

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<v Speaker 1>and why was he so insistent on Hailey's reporters staying

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<v Speaker 1>out of his business. There's an answer, maybe not the answer,

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<v Speaker 1>but an answer nonetheless, and it involves Tom Hanks being

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<v Speaker 1>just a little bit of a jerk. A couple of

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<v Speaker 1>years before Willis began what would grow into a love

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<v Speaker 1>affair with Haley, he had already decided he wasn't going

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<v Speaker 1>to be overly cooperative with the press. Stardom had put

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<v Speaker 1>him in the sights of the tabloids. Reporters seemed to

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<v Speaker 1>want to know who he was sleeping with, not who

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<v Speaker 1>he'd be working with. His transition from being anonymous to

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<v Speaker 1>famous had happened virtually overnight. Once Moonlighting premiered in March

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen five. The show was a hit, but Bruce seemed

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<v Speaker 1>completely unprepared for the scrutiny that accompanied being a successful actor.

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<v Speaker 1>The media had made a big deal of his relationship

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<v Speaker 1>with Sybil Shephard, his Moonlighting co star. Moonlighting Wars Jealous

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<v Speaker 1>set turns into battleground. That kind of thing. The rumors

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<v Speaker 1>sold papers and magazines. Willis estimated he was on a

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<v Speaker 1>tabloid cover at least once a week. People enjoyed reading

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<v Speaker 1>about Bruce Wood Willis being a jerk, even if virtually

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<v Speaker 1>all of it was embellished or made up. Bruce Willis's

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<v Speaker 1>shocking arrest, the untold story Bruce Willis and X rated

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<v Speaker 1>actress Bruce Willis and Miami Weis Galley in new romance

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<v Speaker 1>Pals warn He'll break your heart. Rather than cope with

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<v Speaker 1>the press, it became easier to ignore it. He felt

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<v Speaker 1>the media sometimes made actors a target, that there was

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<v Speaker 1>a certain time when it became someone's turn to be

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<v Speaker 1>cut down a peg. For Willis, it came with Hudson Hawk,

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<v Speaker 1>a crime caper musical he released. In That's Right, a

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<v Speaker 1>musical starring Bruce Willis, Willis played a cat burglar who

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<v Speaker 1>enjoyed a little singing during his art heists. Willis helped

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<v Speaker 1>conceive of the story and even helped write the theme song.

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<v Speaker 1>His producer was Joel Silver, who had made Willis a

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<v Speaker 1>box office star with the die Hard Films, and Willis

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<v Speaker 1>loved shooting the movie mostly because while on location in Hungary,

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<v Speaker 1>no one really knew who he was. But the director,

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<v Speaker 1>Michael Lehman, complained that his ideas would be challenged or

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<v Speaker 1>vetoed by Willis, who wielded so much influence in Hollywood

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<v Speaker 1>that even a director would have to defer to him.

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<v Speaker 1>At one point, Willis insisted his character Hudson Hawk needed

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<v Speaker 1>a pet monkey named Little Eddie. No one else really

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<v Speaker 1>wanted the movie to have a monkey, but Willis wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>let it go, so producers decided that Willis's character Hudson

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<v Speaker 1>had a monkey past tense. The monkey was never shown

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<v Speaker 1>on camera because it turns out Little Eddie had been

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<v Speaker 1>murdered while Hudson was in prison, So yeah, you couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>maybe see where this might be going. One source on

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<v Speaker 1>set said that Willis thought he was making a hip

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<v Speaker 1>MTV style movie, but it was really more of an

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<v Speaker 1>homage to the fast talking caper comedies of the nineteen forties.

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<v Speaker 1>He had trouble describing it in interviews. It was, he said,

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<v Speaker 1>a film that needed to be experienced more than explained. Yo,

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<v Speaker 1>did I miss anything? Gates dries a blackmail me. You

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<v Speaker 1>asked me, did I miss anything Gates. Gates killed you say,

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<v Speaker 1>did I miss anything? I bet you? Going up to

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<v Speaker 1>Mrs Lincoln at the Fourth Theater said how is the show?

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<v Speaker 1>Did I miss anything? No one felt like they missed

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<v Speaker 1>anything With Hudson Hawk, critics were unkind It flopped at

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<v Speaker 1>the box office, making just seventeen million dollars against a

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<v Speaker 1>fifty million dollar budget. Today it has a score of

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<v Speaker 1>just thirty three on Rotten Tomatoes. To Willis, it seemed

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<v Speaker 1>like there had been a concerted effort by the media

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<v Speaker 1>to curb his start um. It would happen with Kevin

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<v Speaker 1>Costner and water World and to Arnold Schwarzenegger in Last

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<v Speaker 1>Action Hero. The press seemed to relish those moments, and

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<v Speaker 1>Willis resented them for it. They'd cut him before too,

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<v Speaker 1>during the fallout from The Bonfire of the Vanities. The

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<v Speaker 1>film released in starred Tom Hanks, Melanie Griffith, and Willis,

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<v Speaker 1>all three of them actors at the top of their games.

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<v Speaker 1>Seemed like a recipe for a hit. Bonfire was an

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<v Speaker 1>adaptation of Tom Wolfe's novel about greed and corruption among

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<v Speaker 1>the powerful and protected class in New York's high society.

0:22:43.359 --> 0:22:47.480
<v Speaker 1>Willis played Peter Fallow, a predatory tabloid reporter, a not

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<v Speaker 1>very subtle jab at his adversaries in the press. When

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<v Speaker 1>Willis was asked why he took the part, he'd shoot back,

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<v Speaker 1>why do you think, Oh, excuse me, I have introduced myself,

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<v Speaker 1>have I? My name is Peter Fallow. I'm a writer.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know that already. Unless you haven't read a

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<v Speaker 1>newspaper or seen a television in the last few months,

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<v Speaker 1>you know exactly who I had. But despite how well

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<v Speaker 1>regarded the novel was, some people considered it too complex

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<v Speaker 1>to be adapted. They warned it might even be unfilmable,

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<v Speaker 1>and it looks like they were right. The film was

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<v Speaker 1>a disappointment, blown out of the water during the holiday

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<v Speaker 1>season by Home Alone. To be fair, every movie was

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<v Speaker 1>blown out by Home Alone, but still it was a

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<v Speaker 1>black mark for all involved, and Willis was no exception.

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<v Speaker 1>But he had reason to regret the film beyond its

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<v Speaker 1>box office. The movie's director, Brian de Palmer, had allowed

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<v Speaker 1>a journalist named Julie Salomon, unprecedented access to observe the

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<v Speaker 1>production from casting to release. It was an opportunity Nitty

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<v Speaker 1>rarely afforded to the media, because well filmmaking can be messy.

0:24:07.320 --> 0:24:10.679
<v Speaker 1>Salmon got to see it all and report on it all,

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<v Speaker 1>all the creative tension, all the tumultuous exchanges. Salomon even

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<v Speaker 1>captured a moment between Willis and Hanks, who were both

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<v Speaker 1>watching playback of a scene on a monitor. Hanks, with

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<v Speaker 1>some apparent glee in his voice, made a show of

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<v Speaker 1>pointing out when Willis smirked in the scene. It was

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<v Speaker 1>the same smirk that had made him such a hit

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<v Speaker 1>in Moonlighting and die Hard and in other films. Hanks

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<v Speaker 1>playfully pointed it out there. It is that big sing Gren,

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<v Speaker 1>he said. It was not very Tom Hanks thing to say.

0:24:48.640 --> 0:24:52.800
<v Speaker 1>A brooding Willis said nothing. Smirk was a Willis trademark.

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<v Speaker 1>It was sacra sanct Tom Hanks was reducing it to

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<v Speaker 1>a crutch. Salomon's book was released in nine It was

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<v Speaker 1>titled The Devil's Candy, A great book. The Bonfire the

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<v Speaker 1>Vanities had become a bad movie, and thanks to Salomon,

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<v Speaker 1>a bad movie had inspired a pretty good book. It

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<v Speaker 1>was well received by most everyone except Willis. He hated

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<v Speaker 1>the fact Salmon had observed him, had criticized him. He

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<v Speaker 1>hadn't even granted her an interview, and he still got

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<v Speaker 1>bad press. If he was pressed shy before Salomon may

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<v Speaker 1>have made him press loathing, Hollywood loathing. Even when he

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<v Speaker 1>consented to an interview, he usually regretted it, and so

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<v Speaker 1>did the journalist. A thousand its views, and I would say,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a handful four or five that were just a

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<v Speaker 1>complete nightmare. Bruce was one of those nightmares. That's Martha Frankel.

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<v Speaker 1>Martha writes books now, but in the nine nineties she

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<v Speaker 1>was focused on entertainment journalism and she was good at it.

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<v Speaker 1>She wasn't fawning, she wasn't insulting either. She was just

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<v Speaker 1>doing her job, and she laid out what she perceived

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<v Speaker 1>as a mutually beneficial transaction. I used to say this

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<v Speaker 1>one when I would sit down with somebody, I'd say, listen,

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<v Speaker 1>here's how it works. I'm getting paid five grand. You're

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<v Speaker 1>getting paid five million. My job to make you seem

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<v Speaker 1>even cooler than you are. Some more people go and

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<v Speaker 1>you can make six million next time. So let's just

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<v Speaker 1>have a conversation. This is what I would say. And

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<v Speaker 1>most people were like, that sounds great. Bruce Willis did

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<v Speaker 1>not think it sounded great. When Movieline Magazine sent Frankel

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<v Speaker 1>to interview Willis in Europe. In it was the beginning

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<v Speaker 1>of one of the most torturous experiences of Frankel's professional career.

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<v Speaker 1>And I went to England to do a story about him,

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<v Speaker 1>and like, I thought we were going to be like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it was gonna be cool. We had this history,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, we knew a lot of people in

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<v Speaker 1>common and a lot of my friends of Kiss directors

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<v Speaker 1>and actors. And he wanted no part of that. He

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<v Speaker 1>didn't want to talk about it. He wanted no part

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<v Speaker 1>of it. I was in a spa in Windsor waiting

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<v Speaker 1>for him, supposed to be there one night. I was

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<v Speaker 1>there for nine Frankel stood vigil as Willis seemed to

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<v Speaker 1>weigh whether or not he really wanted to be interviewed.

0:27:20.080 --> 0:27:23.760
<v Speaker 1>I had the two bitchest editors in magazine history, so

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<v Speaker 1>they would spend fortune sending you around the world in

0:27:27.480 --> 0:27:30.960
<v Speaker 1>the hope that you hated your subject. So I mean

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<v Speaker 1>I kept calling them every day and saying, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think this interview is happening. I think I should come home,

0:27:36.080 --> 0:27:38.440
<v Speaker 1>and they were like, nope, you're staying because even if

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<v Speaker 1>you never get to interview, and that will be the

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<v Speaker 1>story Martha persisted, tried different tactics to appeal to Bruce.

0:27:46.440 --> 0:27:49.440
<v Speaker 1>It was raining, pouring, and there was no good food

0:27:49.480 --> 0:27:52.280
<v Speaker 1>to eat, and I was stuck in the spa. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean all I did was swim, so and every day

0:27:55.160 --> 0:27:57.040
<v Speaker 1>I would write to him and say, let's do it today,

0:27:57.200 --> 0:27:59.520
<v Speaker 1>Let's do it today. And I had some funny ideas.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought, you know, he has a big entourage. He

0:28:01.640 --> 0:28:04.040
<v Speaker 1>always had a very big entourage. And I was there

0:28:04.080 --> 0:28:06.160
<v Speaker 1>all alone. So I said, why don't we just sit

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<v Speaker 1>down me, you and your people will play poker for

0:28:08.800 --> 0:28:11.199
<v Speaker 1>an hour, the interview will be over. It'll be a

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<v Speaker 1>great interview. You know, I'll make you sound even funnier

0:28:13.880 --> 0:28:15.920
<v Speaker 1>than you are. He said, no, we have a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people in common. I don't want to talk about that.

0:28:18.080 --> 0:28:23.440
<v Speaker 1>So we really were at odds. Finally, after well over

0:28:23.480 --> 0:28:26.359
<v Speaker 1>a week, Willis agreed to meet when I do an

0:28:26.359 --> 0:28:29.199
<v Speaker 1>interview on somebody. I watched everything, and so when I

0:28:29.240 --> 0:28:31.800
<v Speaker 1>went to meet Bruce, I had seen all the clunkers

0:28:31.960 --> 0:28:34.920
<v Speaker 1>and all the good stuff. You know, the die Hard

0:28:34.960 --> 0:28:37.399
<v Speaker 1>movies are fantastic to watch. They take you to a

0:28:37.400 --> 0:28:40.520
<v Speaker 1>place you've never been before. And so he wanted to

0:28:40.560 --> 0:28:42.920
<v Speaker 1>talk to him about that, and he didn't want to

0:28:42.920 --> 0:28:46.320
<v Speaker 1>talk about that. He didn't really want to talk about anything,

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<v Speaker 1>which is funny after you've waited nine days in a

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<v Speaker 1>spa in Windsor. I did the interview and he made

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<v Speaker 1>them shut down the restaurant in the hotel, and then

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<v Speaker 1>he like, oh, it's just a dragon. He wasn't fun

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<v Speaker 1>and he wasn't funny, and I know he's all of

0:29:04.000 --> 0:29:06.360
<v Speaker 1>those things. You know, I had seen him in action.

0:29:06.440 --> 0:29:08.520
<v Speaker 1>I know he can be that. He was, you know,

0:29:08.680 --> 0:29:11.760
<v Speaker 1>very serious, and he just kept telling me how you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Hudson Hawk was a great movie and this one. I

0:29:13.840 --> 0:29:16.520
<v Speaker 1>was like, Bruce, you know I saw it. You can't

0:29:16.560 --> 0:29:20.480
<v Speaker 1>convince me of that. And it was really one of

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<v Speaker 1>the first interviews that I just put it into the

0:29:23.040 --> 0:29:25.440
<v Speaker 1>story and said, I didn't like this guy. He didn't

0:29:25.480 --> 0:29:29.600
<v Speaker 1>like me. We didn't have fun. Willis was touchy and evasive.

0:29:30.000 --> 0:29:32.560
<v Speaker 1>He kept asking her to turn off the tape recorder

0:29:32.880 --> 0:29:36.240
<v Speaker 1>for him to explain what went wrong with Hudson Hawk,

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<v Speaker 1>as though there had been potential for anything to go

0:29:39.560 --> 0:29:44.040
<v Speaker 1>right with Hudson Hawk. Naturally, Frankel's editors at movie Line

0:29:44.280 --> 0:29:47.400
<v Speaker 1>loved it. They weren't unhappy that it went like that.

0:29:47.440 --> 0:29:52.240
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I was because I want to light the

0:29:52.320 --> 0:29:54.920
<v Speaker 1>people I interview, I want them to do well. I

0:29:54.960 --> 0:29:57.200
<v Speaker 1>want to root for them, and there was no way

0:29:57.240 --> 0:30:00.320
<v Speaker 1>I could root for Bruce will Say. After this, four

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<v Speaker 1>months and years afterward, people would approach Frankel with the

0:30:04.720 --> 0:30:09.200
<v Speaker 1>idea that she and Willis were rivals, enemies. They wanted

0:30:09.200 --> 0:30:11.680
<v Speaker 1>her to talk about what a jerk Bruce Willis was

0:30:12.240 --> 0:30:17.240
<v Speaker 1>poked and prodded on. She'd sometimes indulged them. He had,

0:30:17.280 --> 0:30:20.760
<v Speaker 1>after all, kept her waiting for nine days and then

0:30:20.840 --> 0:30:23.960
<v Speaker 1>stonewalled her, and there was something else that bothered her.

0:30:24.680 --> 0:30:26.800
<v Speaker 1>So I was already annoyed at him when he walked in.

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<v Speaker 1>And then he made them shut the restaurant. He made

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<v Speaker 1>them shut it down for two hours during dinner service

0:30:31.920 --> 0:30:34.600
<v Speaker 1>so that nobody would come over for his autograph. And

0:30:34.640 --> 0:30:36.840
<v Speaker 1>then he didn't throw three hundred bucks on the table

0:30:36.880 --> 0:30:40.880
<v Speaker 1>for the waiter, so I did. So I was already like,

0:30:41.200 --> 0:30:44.360
<v Speaker 1>this is not okay. You know, I want rich people

0:30:44.400 --> 0:30:49.600
<v Speaker 1>to be more generous than not rich people. And Bruce, okay,

0:30:49.640 --> 0:30:51.640
<v Speaker 1>he wants the restaurant close. I get it. Then pay

0:30:51.720 --> 0:30:55.120
<v Speaker 1>the guy for the two hours that he missed. He

0:30:55.160 --> 0:30:58.680
<v Speaker 1>didn't have that attitude, So we were really at hots

0:30:59.080 --> 0:31:01.080
<v Speaker 1>But you know, it was the best think. He walked

0:31:01.120 --> 0:31:03.520
<v Speaker 1>in and out of that hotel and nobody said a

0:31:03.520 --> 0:31:10.840
<v Speaker 1>word to if nobody recognized him. So it's kind of

0:31:10.880 --> 0:31:15.120
<v Speaker 1>important this part, because even when people weren't looking at

0:31:15.160 --> 0:31:18.680
<v Speaker 1>Bruce Willis, he could feel eyes on him. He felt

0:31:18.680 --> 0:31:21.480
<v Speaker 1>the need to get away, felt the need to keep

0:31:21.520 --> 0:31:25.320
<v Speaker 1>to himself. All of that would fuel what would happen

0:31:25.400 --> 0:31:32.200
<v Speaker 1>in Haley when journalists plowed forward. Well, that's when Haley

0:31:32.360 --> 0:31:36.160
<v Speaker 1>was exposed to another side of Bruce Willis, the one

0:31:36.320 --> 0:31:56.840
<v Speaker 1>where he's most definitely not smirking. When word of Willis's

0:31:56.960 --> 0:32:00.600
<v Speaker 1>real estate acquisitions got out, a lot of Haley residents

0:32:00.640 --> 0:32:04.680
<v Speaker 1>were excited by the possibilities. There hadn't been any radical

0:32:04.800 --> 0:32:09.160
<v Speaker 1>changes to Haley in decades. Some people thought Haley's buildings

0:32:09.160 --> 0:32:12.760
<v Speaker 1>were quaint, others thought quaint was just another word for

0:32:12.960 --> 0:32:18.240
<v Speaker 1>old decrepit. Now someone with a singular vision was snapping

0:32:18.280 --> 0:32:22.120
<v Speaker 1>up properties and professing his love for the town. It

0:32:22.240 --> 0:32:26.360
<v Speaker 1>was like having a benefactor, or, as one columnist put it,

0:32:26.880 --> 0:32:30.760
<v Speaker 1>Haley had found a sugar daddy. A few people had

0:32:30.800 --> 0:32:33.680
<v Speaker 1>some fun with it. A local high school paper ran

0:32:33.760 --> 0:32:38.040
<v Speaker 1>a cartoon that depicted main Street as Planet Haleywood, a

0:32:38.120 --> 0:32:42.120
<v Speaker 1>nod to Willis's involvement in the Planet Hollywood restaurant franchise.

0:32:42.880 --> 0:32:47.239
<v Speaker 1>Another paper, the Idaho Mountain Express, ran in editorial that

0:32:47.400 --> 0:32:51.080
<v Speaker 1>cheekily suggested Willis should just buy the entire town as

0:32:51.120 --> 0:32:55.080
<v Speaker 1>a holiday present to himself. That got the papers publisher

0:32:55.160 --> 0:32:59.719
<v Speaker 1>an angry phone call. Willis did sometimes talk to the press,

0:32:59.800 --> 0:33:05.880
<v Speaker 1>but he usually had to be angry. First. Things came

0:33:05.920 --> 0:33:08.080
<v Speaker 1>to a head on that front when the Wood River

0:33:08.200 --> 0:33:11.640
<v Speaker 1>Journal ran a story that Bruce Willis didn't care for

0:33:13.920 --> 0:33:18.200
<v Speaker 1>not a bet. We did a story, and I can't

0:33:18.200 --> 0:33:20.560
<v Speaker 1>remember the exact year, but I've been there for several

0:33:20.640 --> 0:33:24.960
<v Speaker 1>years by then. We again, editor of the Wood River Journal.

0:33:25.360 --> 0:33:30.760
<v Speaker 1>The Forest Service would lease uh land to private individuals.

0:33:30.760 --> 0:33:34.160
<v Speaker 1>They've been doing it for decades. It was right on

0:33:34.200 --> 0:33:36.400
<v Speaker 1>a lake, I think it was red Fish, like a big,

0:33:36.440 --> 0:33:41.080
<v Speaker 1>beautiful natural lake. But somehow Willis got one of these

0:33:41.160 --> 0:33:47.880
<v Speaker 1>leases and he built a really nice home on the

0:33:48.120 --> 0:33:51.560
<v Speaker 1>right on the lake. This was another Willis property and

0:33:51.800 --> 0:33:55.040
<v Speaker 1>escape a little further up the road from his escape.

0:33:55.680 --> 0:33:58.360
<v Speaker 1>And we were doing a story because there was a

0:33:58.360 --> 0:34:02.160
<v Speaker 1>lot of discussion in Washington. They wanted to drastically increase

0:34:02.240 --> 0:34:05.640
<v Speaker 1>the prices that people had to pay for these leases.

0:34:06.480 --> 0:34:10.080
<v Speaker 1>Bruce Willis, I'm sure it didn't bleeve twice about a

0:34:10.120 --> 0:34:12.840
<v Speaker 1>price height, but the normal people and they were concerned

0:34:12.840 --> 0:34:15.920
<v Speaker 1>about it. So the Wood River Journal wrote about it.

0:34:16.200 --> 0:34:20.160
<v Speaker 1>We did an article about the about the proposal to

0:34:20.239 --> 0:34:26.080
<v Speaker 1>increase the lease rates up there, and we took a

0:34:26.120 --> 0:34:30.759
<v Speaker 1>picture of the outside of Bruce Willis's house and we

0:34:30.920 --> 0:34:34.200
<v Speaker 1>published it. We didn't identify it as Bruce Willis's place.

0:34:34.239 --> 0:34:36.960
<v Speaker 1>We just used it to show that these were not

0:34:37.040 --> 0:34:39.360
<v Speaker 1>all just tar paper shacks up there where. There was

0:34:39.960 --> 0:34:44.680
<v Speaker 1>some really nice, high end residences up there, of which

0:34:44.920 --> 0:34:50.600
<v Speaker 1>this one was by far the nicest. The cabin could

0:34:50.600 --> 0:34:53.520
<v Speaker 1>have been anyone's. There were a total of twenty three

0:34:53.600 --> 0:34:56.680
<v Speaker 1>cabin owners who leased property at Pettit Lake on the

0:34:56.800 --> 0:35:00.239
<v Speaker 1>Forest Service land, including Willis. There was nothing about his

0:35:00.320 --> 0:35:04.279
<v Speaker 1>cabin that was demonstrably Willis esque. His name wasn't on

0:35:04.320 --> 0:35:10.120
<v Speaker 1>a plaque out front or anything. But Bruce Willis stormed

0:35:10.160 --> 0:35:14.279
<v Speaker 1>into the offices of the Journal, angry his privacy had

0:35:14.320 --> 0:35:19.319
<v Speaker 1>been violated. He was enraged the fact that we didn't

0:35:19.360 --> 0:35:26.640
<v Speaker 1>identify it. Um didn't assuage the matter whatsoever and what

0:35:26.800 --> 0:35:30.480
<v Speaker 1>little advertising he did with us he canceled. I'm sure

0:35:30.640 --> 0:35:33.319
<v Speaker 1>he if you asked him today, he would, you know,

0:35:33.440 --> 0:35:36.279
<v Speaker 1>still have a chip on his should about it. I

0:35:36.320 --> 0:35:38.960
<v Speaker 1>know what you're thinking, What did Bruce Willis need to

0:35:39.040 --> 0:35:44.840
<v Speaker 1>advertise in the Wood River Journal. It's coming promise, but

0:35:44.960 --> 0:35:48.440
<v Speaker 1>for now the Wood River Journal had broken its unspoken

0:35:48.560 --> 0:35:52.600
<v Speaker 1>vow to protect its famous residence. Of course, losing any

0:35:52.640 --> 0:35:56.280
<v Speaker 1>advertising is something that you don't want to have happened.

0:35:56.280 --> 0:36:01.040
<v Speaker 1>But you have to have journalistic integrity. And if if, uh,

0:36:01.120 --> 0:36:05.400
<v Speaker 1>somebody wants to cancel their advertising because of a story

0:36:05.480 --> 0:36:08.319
<v Speaker 1>you did, if it's a story that was solid and

0:36:08.360 --> 0:36:11.280
<v Speaker 1>it's a story you stand by, it's sorry you feel

0:36:11.280 --> 0:36:17.279
<v Speaker 1>that way, Better luck next time. Willis also phoned reporter c. J.

0:36:17.440 --> 0:36:22.520
<v Speaker 1>Carra Margin and said something pretty strange. Willis said that

0:36:22.600 --> 0:36:26.960
<v Speaker 1>he heard the reporter had quote a vendetta against him,

0:36:27.120 --> 0:36:30.839
<v Speaker 1>like they were feuding families in The Godfather. But Cara

0:36:30.920 --> 0:36:34.560
<v Speaker 1>Margin argued he was just doing his job, just digging

0:36:34.640 --> 0:36:38.680
<v Speaker 1>up information that was in the public interest, information like

0:36:39.040 --> 0:36:43.560
<v Speaker 1>just what exactly Bruce Willis was planning for Haley. No

0:36:43.600 --> 0:36:47.360
<v Speaker 1>one had a vendetta against Willis. He was investing in

0:36:47.440 --> 0:36:51.400
<v Speaker 1>real estate and leasing federal land. Bruce Willis seemed to

0:36:51.400 --> 0:36:56.799
<v Speaker 1>take reporting on his public activities very, very personally and

0:36:57.000 --> 0:37:02.920
<v Speaker 1>with a dramatic flare. The tension became almost operatic, like

0:37:03.040 --> 0:37:06.799
<v Speaker 1>Willis wasn't being reported on for business ventures so much

0:37:06.840 --> 0:37:11.239
<v Speaker 1>as being besieged by goons out of die Hard. But

0:37:11.360 --> 0:37:15.480
<v Speaker 1>Haley residents were mostly on Willis's side. He wasn't just

0:37:15.560 --> 0:37:19.520
<v Speaker 1>snapping up properties. He was investing in the community too.

0:37:20.080 --> 0:37:23.680
<v Speaker 1>Willis and more made donations to a local group advocating

0:37:23.760 --> 0:37:27.280
<v Speaker 1>for victims of domestic violence. He donated to the local

0:37:27.360 --> 0:37:30.840
<v Speaker 1>library and the Little League. One winter, when Haley seemed

0:37:30.880 --> 0:37:33.880
<v Speaker 1>as though it might be overrun by snow, he donated

0:37:33.960 --> 0:37:38.080
<v Speaker 1>snowblowers to the town. There was a real philanthropy in

0:37:38.160 --> 0:37:41.880
<v Speaker 1>what Willis was doing. He was community minded in many ways.

0:37:41.920 --> 0:37:45.320
<v Speaker 1>He was very generous in many ways, and uh I

0:37:45.400 --> 0:37:51.800
<v Speaker 1>admired him for that. Haley was his hometown, now his escape.

0:37:52.640 --> 0:37:54.840
<v Speaker 1>He could spend up to six months out of the

0:37:54.920 --> 0:37:59.400
<v Speaker 1>year or more recuperating from the demands of stardom. No

0:37:59.480 --> 0:38:02.840
<v Speaker 1>one in hay Haley asked Bruce Willis for his autograph.

0:38:03.120 --> 0:38:07.640
<v Speaker 1>Sometimes city officials would float his name in political circles. Willis,

0:38:07.719 --> 0:38:11.960
<v Speaker 1>they said, should consider running for mayor. Hey, there was precedent.

0:38:12.360 --> 0:38:14.719
<v Speaker 1>Clint Eastwood was mayor of Carmel by the Sea in

0:38:14.800 --> 0:38:19.040
<v Speaker 1>California in the nineteen eighties. But Willis wasn't about to

0:38:19.120 --> 0:38:22.080
<v Speaker 1>run for office. What he wanted was to build up

0:38:22.120 --> 0:38:26.239
<v Speaker 1>Haley more discreetly, and that's what Wayne A. Dare C J.

0:38:26.400 --> 0:38:29.920
<v Speaker 1>Carre Margin and the town of Haley would soon realize.

0:38:30.400 --> 0:38:33.880
<v Speaker 1>For Willis, there seemed to be appeal in treating Haley

0:38:34.040 --> 0:38:38.440
<v Speaker 1>like a big, fresh, unpainted canvas. He was here for

0:38:38.480 --> 0:38:41.680
<v Speaker 1>that final brush stroke. He had come to get away

0:38:41.719 --> 0:38:44.520
<v Speaker 1>from it all, But in doing so, he realized he

0:38:44.600 --> 0:38:48.319
<v Speaker 1>didn't necessarily want to get away from it all, just

0:38:48.440 --> 0:38:53.640
<v Speaker 1>the parts he disliked, the unwanted attention, the insecure Hollywood types.

0:38:54.360 --> 0:38:57.360
<v Speaker 1>At some point Willis might have realized he could start

0:38:57.440 --> 0:39:02.440
<v Speaker 1>painting that canvas in his own image. The Willis effect

0:39:02.640 --> 0:39:05.919
<v Speaker 1>was coming like a tidal wave, and with it would

0:39:05.960 --> 0:39:10.560
<v Speaker 1>come some good things like prosperity and culture and movie stars.

0:39:11.680 --> 0:39:14.600
<v Speaker 1>But there was always a sense that what Bruce Willis giveth,

0:39:15.040 --> 0:39:21.440
<v Speaker 1>Bruce Willis could also taketh away. In Willis opened an

0:39:21.480 --> 0:39:25.000
<v Speaker 1>office and retail complex that he dubbed the E. G.

0:39:25.320 --> 0:39:29.960
<v Speaker 1>Willis Building after his grandfather Willis had bought the building,

0:39:30.160 --> 0:39:33.280
<v Speaker 1>renovated it, and then least out space to a jeweler

0:39:33.360 --> 0:39:36.719
<v Speaker 1>of furniture store and others. It was a pretty standard

0:39:36.719 --> 0:39:41.799
<v Speaker 1>developer move, nothing too flashy. Nonetheless, Entertainment Tonight came out

0:39:41.840 --> 0:39:47.239
<v Speaker 1>to cover the grand opening. One of the existing occupants

0:39:47.320 --> 0:39:50.399
<v Speaker 1>of the E. G. Willis Building was the gang at

0:39:50.400 --> 0:39:54.480
<v Speaker 1>the Wood River Journal. He bought the building that we

0:39:54.480 --> 0:39:57.879
<v Speaker 1>were in. We were in the building before he owned it.

0:39:58.680 --> 0:40:01.920
<v Speaker 1>He purchased it, and you weren't sure what was gonna happen.

0:40:02.560 --> 0:40:07.600
<v Speaker 1>Dad gorm wrote an editorial about the odd situation. I

0:40:07.640 --> 0:40:10.680
<v Speaker 1>remember I put a headline on the editorial it's hit

0:40:13.200 --> 0:40:18.120
<v Speaker 1>Bruce Willis stars as quote the landlord, and uh, we

0:40:18.120 --> 0:40:20.759
<v Speaker 1>were trying to make a little bit light of the situation.

0:40:22.080 --> 0:40:25.920
<v Speaker 1>When the lease for the Journal expired, Willis's company didn't

0:40:25.920 --> 0:40:29.719
<v Speaker 1>renew it, Wayne and Dair C. J. Carr Margin and

0:40:29.840 --> 0:40:32.839
<v Speaker 1>the rest of the crew would have to move. We

0:40:32.920 --> 0:40:35.040
<v Speaker 1>ultimately had to move, But I don't think it was

0:40:35.360 --> 0:40:38.160
<v Speaker 1>I don't think he was any animosity towards us that

0:40:38.680 --> 0:40:42.640
<v Speaker 1>to end our lease. It worked out fine because we

0:40:42.719 --> 0:40:45.920
<v Speaker 1>got a better office in a bigger office just half

0:40:45.920 --> 0:40:50.640
<v Speaker 1>a block away. So all's well, that end well. It

0:40:50.800 --> 0:40:55.160
<v Speaker 1>was clear Willis wasn't overjoyed with the Journal, but who

0:40:55.239 --> 0:40:58.080
<v Speaker 1>could complain When he did make a move, Like with

0:40:58.120 --> 0:41:01.440
<v Speaker 1>the E. G. Willis Building, he put dozens of trades

0:41:01.480 --> 0:41:05.399
<v Speaker 1>people to work for years at a time, carpenters, bricklayers.

0:41:06.000 --> 0:41:09.120
<v Speaker 1>Haley was beginning to radiate with the glow of a

0:41:09.160 --> 0:41:13.000
<v Speaker 1>movie stars affection. It was Hudson Hawk all over again,

0:41:13.080 --> 0:41:17.560
<v Speaker 1>where Willis could have almost complete control. But thanks to

0:41:17.719 --> 0:41:21.560
<v Speaker 1>his infamous press silence, no one knew what else Bruce

0:41:21.600 --> 0:41:24.719
<v Speaker 1>Willis was planning for Haley, or that it would soon

0:41:24.840 --> 0:41:29.440
<v Speaker 1>grow to include secret rooms, a clandestine security force, and

0:41:29.680 --> 0:41:34.560
<v Speaker 1>car chases. Not movie car chases, but the real thing.

0:41:38.360 --> 0:41:42.560
<v Speaker 1>This season on Haleywood, Bruce kind of thought that he

0:41:42.600 --> 0:41:45.759
<v Speaker 1>would have the same effect as he would in New Jersey,

0:41:46.120 --> 0:41:49.040
<v Speaker 1>and of course that wasn't true at all. It was

0:41:49.120 --> 0:41:52.799
<v Speaker 1>just a whole different world, cowboy country. You know, you're

0:41:52.800 --> 0:41:56.160
<v Speaker 1>getting out in the real West. He was flying a

0:41:56.360 --> 0:42:00.279
<v Speaker 1>G two arm in arm with Arnold Schwarzenegger, who was

0:42:00.320 --> 0:42:02.680
<v Speaker 1>also flying a G two, and he would fly in

0:42:02.800 --> 0:42:05.400
<v Speaker 1>at two o'clock in the morning, and I mean that

0:42:05.520 --> 0:42:08.839
<v Speaker 1>woke you up. And there was this Victorian house Bruce

0:42:08.880 --> 0:42:11.120
<v Speaker 1>Willis had bought for Tony Moore at that point to

0:42:11.440 --> 0:42:14.239
<v Speaker 1>house or doll collection of course, Bruce and get up.

0:42:14.239 --> 0:42:16.480
<v Speaker 1>There was a while it's harmonic and try to ruin

0:42:16.560 --> 0:42:20.200
<v Speaker 1>it all. I'm just kidding, but I'm not a big

0:42:20.520 --> 0:42:24.160
<v Speaker 1>lover of that kind of musy. Then something went sour

0:42:24.440 --> 0:42:27.680
<v Speaker 1>and it was like, boy, biggo sour with Willis, You're

0:42:27.760 --> 0:42:32.080
<v Speaker 1>likely to lose. He looked roughed up Fara and he

0:42:32.160 --> 0:42:35.600
<v Speaker 1>said they smashed my equipment. Roughed me up, said they

0:42:35.600 --> 0:42:38.080
<v Speaker 1>told me to get the hell out of town. Mr

0:42:38.120 --> 0:42:41.399
<v Speaker 1>Willis doesn't like your newspaper type people are out here.

0:42:42.360 --> 0:42:55.520
<v Speaker 1>You don't want to come into Mr Willis's town. Haleywood

0:42:55.640 --> 0:42:59.200
<v Speaker 1>is hosted by Danish Woods. This show is written by

0:42:59.280 --> 0:43:04.280
<v Speaker 1>Jake Ross, editing, sound design and mixing by me Josh Fisher,

0:43:04.840 --> 0:43:09.920
<v Speaker 1>Additional editing by Mary Doo, Original music by Natasha Jacobs,

0:43:10.440 --> 0:43:15.240
<v Speaker 1>mixing by Jeremy Thal, Research and fact checking by Jake Rosson,

0:43:15.480 --> 0:43:20.279
<v Speaker 1>Austin Thompson and Marissa Brown. Show logo by Lucy Quentinia

0:43:20.840 --> 0:43:24.360
<v Speaker 1>Our Senior producer is Ryan Murdoch and our executive producer

0:43:24.440 --> 0:43:27.680
<v Speaker 1>is Jason English. Special thanks to the people of Hailey,

0:43:27.719 --> 0:43:32.000
<v Speaker 1>Idaho and all those who've shared their stories. Haileywood is

0:43:32.000 --> 0:43:35.319
<v Speaker 1>a production of I Heart Radio Until Next Time.