WEBVTT - Talking Ball with Allen Robinson

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<v Speaker 1>This is cut to It with Steve Smith Senior at

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<v Speaker 1>production of The Black Effect and I Heart Radio. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Steve Smith Senior and I'm Little John, And this is

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<v Speaker 1>cut to it. Good do it? Good do what they're

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<v Speaker 1>getting down to? Do it? Good do it. We asked

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<v Speaker 1>the questions you always want to know, but no one

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<v Speaker 1>ever asked, let's cut to it. You ain't heard am

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<v Speaker 1>about it? Then we're about to let you know. It's

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<v Speaker 1>all man, we got a great episode. We got one.

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<v Speaker 1>We have one of the premier, premier route runners, right,

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<v Speaker 1>he can run some routes. He was in Jacksonville. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>took a nice, pretty good contract, great leadership. In Chicago,

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<v Speaker 1>things didn't go well, as you know if you're a

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<v Speaker 1>Chicago fan. You saw very quickly. Uh. They went from

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<v Speaker 1>sugar to blue cheese really fast. And we're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>Allen Robinson and we've got him for a less hopball

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<v Speaker 1>episode that I know for sure, really excited about being

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<v Speaker 1>able to dig into. You mentioned his tenue with the Jaguars,

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<v Speaker 1>more recently his tenue with the Chicago Bears. It's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be a good one. Man. Did you think I was

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit hard on him? Na? You never really wow.

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<v Speaker 1>But I did have to hold his feet to the

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<v Speaker 1>fire on some of these things because I know personally

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<v Speaker 1>when you make some professional mistakes how much they can

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<v Speaker 1>stick with you. And I love how he owned his

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<v Speaker 1>professional mistakes. It's the name of his podcast. Right to It.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna cut to it. We're getting the right information.

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<v Speaker 1>A matter of fact, we're gonna cut to it and

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<v Speaker 1>get straight into this anything. How are you doing? Brother?

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the Cut to It Podcast. I am your

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<v Speaker 1>resident Mr nort All, Steve Smith Singer, and then I

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<v Speaker 1>got backstage Joe and then my accomplished co host and

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<v Speaker 1>one of my best friends, Gerard Little John. Let's talk

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<v Speaker 1>ball man. I'm really I'm intrigued to talk ball um.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm also uh, I'm also excited because I can

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<v Speaker 1>remember when you were with a long when you're with

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<v Speaker 1>an organization and you transition, right you with the Jaguars,

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<v Speaker 1>man that was that was your squad, bro. You were

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<v Speaker 1>you were putting up big numbers. You know you uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you guys were doing well. You took a team that

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<v Speaker 1>was doing well. They faltered and then they got two.

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<v Speaker 1>They got you, and all of a sudden things changed

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<v Speaker 1>and you gave them hope. I knew you crushed their

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<v Speaker 1>dreams and you chase that bag? How dare you you

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<v Speaker 1>go to Chicago? So I mean, we're gonna why did you?

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<v Speaker 1>Why did you sign with the Chicago Bears? Coming out

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<v Speaker 1>of coming out of free agency? So coming out of

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<v Speaker 1>free agency, Um, for me, personally, I feel like I

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<v Speaker 1>got a lot of I thought I had great force

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<v Speaker 1>life into my career and kind of you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>direction that I wanted to go and things like that.

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<v Speaker 1>And seeing who the Bears were bringing in at the time,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, to to coach at the quarterback position, and

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<v Speaker 1>kind of the culture and the team and style of

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<v Speaker 1>play that they were trying to build. I personally saw

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<v Speaker 1>that I was a perfect scheme fit for that, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and being able to be moved around, being able to

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<v Speaker 1>run different routes, you know. Um, I didn't want to

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<v Speaker 1>just be a person who was just running uh go

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<v Speaker 1>balls and stops. You don't want to just do that,

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<v Speaker 1>huh Nah. I wanted to play in the slide a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit, you know. I wanted to get into some

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<v Speaker 1>one by three formations and be number three, the number two,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, playing the outside a little bit. And I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to be able to to showcase and and and

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<v Speaker 1>put my entire skill set to the test. So what

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<v Speaker 1>what was what was your thought? And free agency? Are

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<v Speaker 1>you coming out? You're going into free agency? You got

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<v Speaker 1>We don't. I'm not concerned about it, and we don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to mention all the other teams. But you have

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<v Speaker 1>some teams and you picked Chicago. But why did you

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<v Speaker 1>believe a scheme was important? One? I believe that I

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<v Speaker 1>could fit into many different schemes, but to be specific,

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<v Speaker 1>from the concepts and from different things that was being ran.

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<v Speaker 1>Also with the with with the culture that her other

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<v Speaker 1>players even from Kansas City that was being brought in,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought that that would be that would be perfect

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<v Speaker 1>for me to kind of because at that time I

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<v Speaker 1>was coming out for injury as well, so it was

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<v Speaker 1>it was me kind of like reiterating who I was

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<v Speaker 1>as a player was big and I wanted to and

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to make sure that, you know, I had

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<v Speaker 1>the perfect situation for me to be able to do that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, for me to kind of be able to

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<v Speaker 1>not reintroduce myself. But when you sit out for a

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<v Speaker 1>whole season because of the injury, you know, people tend

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<v Speaker 1>to forget, you know, and there's a lot of different

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<v Speaker 1>things that kind of you know, go olden people's head.

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<v Speaker 1>And for me, I wanted to get into a situation

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<v Speaker 1>where I could show it exactly who I was. And

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<v Speaker 1>again I could put my skill set and I could

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<v Speaker 1>put who I was as a player on display. So

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<v Speaker 1>scheme culture. What else was it about the organization that

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<v Speaker 1>drew you in to take that trip? Also, Chicago is

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<v Speaker 1>close to home. Um, that was another fact that I had.

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<v Speaker 1>I had played. I had played far away from home,

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<v Speaker 1>not far, but recently far away from home for a

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<v Speaker 1>good little while. I think prior to me being in Chicago,

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<v Speaker 1>the closest I had played from the driving standpoint was

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<v Speaker 1>about seven and a half hours and I was in

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<v Speaker 1>college at Penn State, you know. And even even over

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<v Speaker 1>the past years for me, this is the most that

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<v Speaker 1>my family has been able to come and see me

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<v Speaker 1>places high school. So how important has that been now

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<v Speaker 1>that you've lived that? Extremely important? Um, extremely important, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>especially not to not to fast forward, but especially you

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<v Speaker 1>know this past year, you know, being able to you know,

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<v Speaker 1>have my family and being able for them to you know,

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<v Speaker 1>be be close to me, you know, and being able

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<v Speaker 1>to come to games and things like that. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a great feeling. You know. Again, I mean it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's one thing where you kind of just playing and

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<v Speaker 1>kind of you know, experiencing and trying to embrace everything,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, by yourself. When you have you know, when

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<v Speaker 1>I had my parents and my sister you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>some of my friends come into games and things like that.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's just a different feeling. Man. It's just

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<v Speaker 1>it asked a lot more because again, I mean for

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<v Speaker 1>me personally, you know, my career and how I look

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<v Speaker 1>at my career, I've never looked at it as far

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<v Speaker 1>as you know, just me, you know, like like like

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<v Speaker 1>every time I put on my jersey, every time I

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<v Speaker 1>think about my family, I think about the people who

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<v Speaker 1>have been watching me and who've been coming to the

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<v Speaker 1>games and in the stand since I was seven years old,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and being able to being able to have that,

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<v Speaker 1>be able to have them there, you know a lot,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, from my entire time in Chicago, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>meant a lot to me, you know, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>that we all as a as a family and everything

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<v Speaker 1>like that truly embraced that, and and and it was

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<v Speaker 1>it's been a great experience. I like it. I'm I'm

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<v Speaker 1>impressed on the y take us through. Did you take

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<v Speaker 1>any other visits then Chicago? Or you just fell in

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<v Speaker 1>love with Chicago like you was a cheap day, cheap date.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not. I didn't take no business. That boy got

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<v Speaker 1>that They told you how much money there is gonna pay?

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<v Speaker 1>You say, you know it's close to home. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>pretty good bag. I'm looking at his backdrop like, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what, Shoot, this ain't too bad. I can see

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<v Speaker 1>myself here, kick my feet up. I can see myself here.

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<v Speaker 1>He took his hat off his he he's like, let

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<v Speaker 1>me see if the wind blows him my hair. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>just when I went to Baltimore, I did. I just

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<v Speaker 1>took my I just see if the wind blowing my scout.

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<v Speaker 1>I had lost all my hair by then, so I

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<v Speaker 1>ain't think of my business business. Um why my first

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<v Speaker 1>time experiencing for it? Well, I didn't know this, but

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<v Speaker 1>I mean free agency had it just was going so

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<v Speaker 1>fast you start depending not how you expect, like just

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<v Speaker 1>kind of sit back and she'll like, you know, let

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<v Speaker 1>me like yeah, I'm like, let me see what's over

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<v Speaker 1>is now? It's going fast like much fat much faster

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<v Speaker 1>than I expected for that being my first time in

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<v Speaker 1>free agency. Did you get anti A nervous little bit?

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<v Speaker 1>A little bittle bit for sure, A little bit and

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<v Speaker 1>more so for me um, more so because again me

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<v Speaker 1>coming off my injury going into free agency personally, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>everybody you know tells you, you know, the things you

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<v Speaker 1>have people around you, you know, we have a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of knowledge of the situation. But you know, deep down

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<v Speaker 1>you know you obviously are hoping for the best situation

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<v Speaker 1>and best scenario. But I tell everybody when you when

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<v Speaker 1>you're sitting up there in a in a knee brace,

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<v Speaker 1>and as the season is progressing about the end, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't have no idea what's gonna be there. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>you have no idea the situation and circumstances, no idea.

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<v Speaker 1>So for me, Um, I definite it was a little

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<v Speaker 1>empty when it kind of came down to it. But

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<v Speaker 1>you know, as as it as it progressed, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>um Um definitely definitely calmed down a little bit. So

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<v Speaker 1>you you were sitting in a knee brace, You're sitting

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<v Speaker 1>around m M psychologically what we're what was going on

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<v Speaker 1>internally for you as you sustained the major injury to

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<v Speaker 1>some degree. There's there's probably some question of what I

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<v Speaker 1>returned back to me. Then you gotta inswer free agency.

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<v Speaker 1>Then you gotta enter free agency. What was going on inside?

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<v Speaker 1>Give us the real don't give it. Don't don't don't

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<v Speaker 1>give us the agent. Uh you know. I'm just You're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna get the best version of Alan Robinson after this

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<v Speaker 1>injury that you possibly can. Like, I want to know

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<v Speaker 1>how you did your interviews. No, you just I just

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<v Speaker 1>hear the guys. I see I hear some of the

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<v Speaker 1>guys now and they that's what they're saying. I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>that that ain't the real answer when you're sitting there

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<v Speaker 1>in a knee brace with you know, eighteen six months

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<v Speaker 1>into the injury, and you get up in the early

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<v Speaker 1>morning because you got a pee and you take a

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<v Speaker 1>step and something goes your negos. Boy, you ain't ready yet.

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<v Speaker 1>I said this the day because I got injured. The

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<v Speaker 1>third play of the season. I had one catch for

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<v Speaker 1>I think eighteen yards and it was my contract year

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<v Speaker 1>and I was in the locker room and I specifically

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<v Speaker 1>room this. I'm sitting at my locker and mind you,

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<v Speaker 1>the game is still going on, and I looked up

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<v Speaker 1>and I SAILF. I said, I'm gonna get myself five

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<v Speaker 1>minutes to grief. And after that five minutes, I said,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm putting that past everything From this point forward, it's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be it's gonna be getting myself back to who

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<v Speaker 1>and what I need to be, because I knew I

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't let myself go this go to the left, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and also I didn't want and I and I specifically

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<v Speaker 1>remember this as well, right after my mom called on me, um,

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<v Speaker 1>and then my mom asked me like, how are you?

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<v Speaker 1>And I can hear the pain in her voice, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and when she heard me say like I'm good, like

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<v Speaker 1>I'm good, I'm gonna be good. I could tell that

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<v Speaker 1>that like took any kind of anxiety or anything off

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<v Speaker 1>of her as well, which is something like I said before, Man,

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<v Speaker 1>my family is very very close to me, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>And and even in those times, if you kind of

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<v Speaker 1>got to be the strength of everybody you know around you,

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<v Speaker 1>because again people people are living the same thing like

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<v Speaker 1>through you, you know, from my mom, my dad, my sister.

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<v Speaker 1>So for me, it was I couldn't let myself be

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<v Speaker 1>down for the people around me to just see me down,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, because that wasn't gonna do nothing for me.

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<v Speaker 1>So when that so in that I put that past. Man.

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<v Speaker 1>From then on, it was just kind of getting to work,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. And even as you're kind of progressing that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you still don't know exactly what and how

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<v Speaker 1>you'll be when that time comes. And I've been watching

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<v Speaker 1>games and seeing dudes make cuts. You know, I'm still

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<v Speaker 1>mind you like I'm fresh off of crutches, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, damn, that's that's a hell of a cutting. Then,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying, You have that in your heads,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's like but once you kind of, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>start to get back on the field and you still progress.

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<v Speaker 1>You know sometimes when injuries like that, you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>small winds are the ones that you gotta take, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>until you back. Yeah, when you talk about injuries, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's so hard because each individual guy, the significance of

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<v Speaker 1>his injury is is it's worse or or easier better

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<v Speaker 1>than the next. Right, And here you say you gave

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<v Speaker 1>yourself five minutes, man. I mean I remember if I

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<v Speaker 1>would have said, man, I give myself five man, when

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<v Speaker 1>I tore my Achilles in Baltimore, bro I woke up

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<v Speaker 1>the next day like it must have been a dream,

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<v Speaker 1>and I took that step and I in the floor

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<v Speaker 1>felt like flat with arch in it. No, that wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>a dream, that that thing't really happened, right, And so

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<v Speaker 1>I had a whole like that. I toured, I felt it,

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<v Speaker 1>I went to sleep, woke up, I was like, yeah, no,

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<v Speaker 1>it was real, and so for me it started all

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<v Speaker 1>over again. And then when I was rehabbing, I had

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<v Speaker 1>those you know, I had those guy moments where Lord,

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<v Speaker 1>I need your help because I don't think I'm strong

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<v Speaker 1>enough to do this right. That's just me, right, I

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<v Speaker 1>I had accomplished so many things and I played well enough,

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<v Speaker 1>but I had that doubt in my head and I struggled.

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<v Speaker 1>I worked as hard as I could, and that still

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<v Speaker 1>was not gonna fix my achilles. And that was new

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<v Speaker 1>to me. That was a different that was a that's

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<v Speaker 1>a different place. I've never been in that place. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's y I'll say this honestly, and again not the

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<v Speaker 1>fast forward too much, but it's you, it's your story.

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<v Speaker 1>I actually I probably would say this year tough room

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<v Speaker 1>than that year. Why that year I felt like once I,

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<v Speaker 1>once I got hurt, it was about me kind of

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<v Speaker 1>controlling everything that I could control. It was I said,

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<v Speaker 1>you were in the driver's seat, and it was just

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<v Speaker 1>more so like you know, like I said before, once

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<v Speaker 1>I got hurt, it said, okay, like well this is

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<v Speaker 1>what I could do when these is kind of steps.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's like not that I don't have a choice,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's like this is this is where I'm at,

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<v Speaker 1>this is word's going as opposed to this year, I

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<v Speaker 1>felt it was so much out of my control. And

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<v Speaker 1>for me as a person, anybody who knows me knows

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<v Speaker 1>anything that bothers me the most, frustrates me the most,

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<v Speaker 1>causes me to be most angry or anything is things

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<v Speaker 1>that I cannot control. Oh that's life. If I can't

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<v Speaker 1>control it. If I can control it, I'm good. If

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<v Speaker 1>I drop a ball, I'm good. I can control that.

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<v Speaker 1>I could, I can make another play, I can improve fear,

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<v Speaker 1>I can do this, I can do that. But now

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<v Speaker 1>once you start factoring in things that's out of my control,

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<v Speaker 1>now you really start missing you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>Now it's now it's frustration. So how is that? How's

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<v Speaker 1>that working out for you? Right now. Then if if

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<v Speaker 1>you are good with control, but you are struggling with

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<v Speaker 1>not control things, because I mean, I know you're you're

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<v Speaker 1>a fantastic football player, but I mean outside of that,

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<v Speaker 1>there's pretty much nothing else, Like there's a let's say,

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<v Speaker 1>if if the list is a thousand, there's probably twenty things.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll give you eighty. Hell, I give you a hundred

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<v Speaker 1>things you can control. Then there's about what about some things?

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<v Speaker 1>You got the illusion of control? Yes? So how are

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<v Speaker 1>you You know you don't have control over everything? Like

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<v Speaker 1>that's life? Are you? Are you a parent yet? Yes? Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>How many kids you guys? Okay? How how old is

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<v Speaker 1>your boy? Girl? Three? Three? He's three, she's just Oh

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<v Speaker 1>she's a girl. Brother. Let me tell you something. Buckle up.

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<v Speaker 1>If you she's controlling you, yeah, she not. Not Again,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm speaking in terms of more so specifically football. I

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<v Speaker 1>understand what you're conceptually, I understand what you're attempting to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about, but I'm telling you we're talking about life.

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<v Speaker 1>Who you are beyond the football player. You can control

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<v Speaker 1>the route you're gonna run after they tell you what

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<v Speaker 1>route you're running. Isn't that fair to say? All right?

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<v Speaker 1>So you you're trying to control after you get on

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<v Speaker 1>the bus, right, and so that's so, would you say

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<v Speaker 1>that type of that thought process soured the relationship with

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<v Speaker 1>you being in Chicago, because here's what I and before

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<v Speaker 1>you answer, I'll let you steal on that. It was

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<v Speaker 1>a report after losing the playoff game that you didn't

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<v Speaker 1>speak to your head coach from January until July. How

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<v Speaker 1>is that possible and why do you why did you

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<v Speaker 1>believe that that was appropriate? Now this old g talking

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<v Speaker 1>to you, this ain't. I know you feel like it's

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<v Speaker 1>okay to do that, but I'm telling you as a

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<v Speaker 1>people that are listening to this, and people that see

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<v Speaker 1>football players, bro, they don't care about your feelings. You're

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<v Speaker 1>getting paid a king's ransom. With the bag you've received

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<v Speaker 1>and the bags that I received. We both have lived

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<v Speaker 1>a thousand lifestyles of kings. And you've got people that

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<v Speaker 1>are paying from Flint, Michigan, to Los Angeles to Charlotte

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<v Speaker 1>that are to go to one game in a whole year,

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<v Speaker 1>they may have to save up six months of their

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<v Speaker 1>salaries or six months off the hourly wage SALD payments

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<v Speaker 1>of jobs. How many burgers they've had to flip, how

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<v Speaker 1>many investments they've had to do, how many cars they've

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<v Speaker 1>had to park, whatever it is that they had to do.

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<v Speaker 1>And you over here ain't talking to your supervisor, a

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<v Speaker 1>person that God has put in your life as as

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<v Speaker 1>someone that you're supposed to report to. You ain't talked

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<v Speaker 1>to him for six, seven, eight months. Why now, if

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<v Speaker 1>I could correct you a little bit, I wasn't there.

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<v Speaker 1>I would sleep actually that I didn't talk to him.

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<v Speaker 1>We didn't talk, I like I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say,

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<v Speaker 1>we didn't talk. Because from the time the season ended

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<v Speaker 1>on the plane after the Saints game, right the following

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<v Speaker 1>or four day hours of some form of exit meetings

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<v Speaker 1>for us because of COVID that was supposed to be

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<v Speaker 1>scheduled with the with the head coach and management or

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<v Speaker 1>however they were coordinating that with that via zoom. Talk

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<v Speaker 1>to the receiver, coach, talk to equipment, everybody else. A

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<v Speaker 1>few days go by, no zoom link, we go by zoom.

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<v Speaker 1>So let me ask you hold on now, let me

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<v Speaker 1>see hold up your right here go like this. He's oh,

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<v Speaker 1>they work, I know you know the text, So you

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't You couldn't text them now honestly, No, you couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>text nahel like you couldn't know why didn't you? No,

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't not feel like I couldn't. It's just at

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<v Speaker 1>that Okay, we're having exit meetings where you normally talk

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<v Speaker 1>about yeah, just just just to put hold on before

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<v Speaker 1>you answer, just to put my cell on. Frustrate man,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't do no damn max and meet. I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>for what I need to excu met for. I know

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be back next year. Y'all get your ship together.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm just telling you what I did. So I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not I'm not coming from a how dare you I'm

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<v Speaker 1>coming from I never did exit meeting. I didn't need

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<v Speaker 1>to do on the exit meet y'all know what y'all

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<v Speaker 1>need to do. Agent A not run his route, y'all

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<v Speaker 1>give me some guys that I can play with, and

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<v Speaker 1>y'all blocking. Hey, we're good. So I didn't need no

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<v Speaker 1>excit meeting. I didn't even clean out my lockers. Hell,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll need to clean up my locker. I'll be here

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<v Speaker 1>next week. So so so I'm saying all that to

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<v Speaker 1>to to tell you, one man, you're help. You don't

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<v Speaker 1>have the reputation I have. You have a stellar reputation.

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<v Speaker 1>Your reputation is you're even killed due that. You're a

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<v Speaker 1>hard worker like me, you're a grinder. But the difference

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<v Speaker 1>that I don't have that the luxury you have is

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<v Speaker 1>you don't have a reputation of being a distraction. I do,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm willing to own it. But when you don't

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<v Speaker 1>talk to your coach, when you don't when you don't

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<v Speaker 1>take the initial step and your daddy, your leader, when

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<v Speaker 1>you don't take that initial step, you can't expect other

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<v Speaker 1>men who may be lacking in something to take that

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<v Speaker 1>step in which is made for you to be responsible,

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<v Speaker 1>to take that step. Because that wide receiver's room, who's

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<v Speaker 1>the leader in that wide receiver's room? Okay, because I

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<v Speaker 1>want to call Mike and ask him now because I

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<v Speaker 1>know what he's gonna tell me, right you, So why

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<v Speaker 1>did you not take that step to show them? Yeah

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<v Speaker 1>you're upset, Yeah you're disappointed, but also also, squad, let's

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<v Speaker 1>get on the same page so we could be better,

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<v Speaker 1>so this doesn't happen next year. And at that point

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<v Speaker 1>it was, I mean, I was, I was a opinion

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<v Speaker 1>and free agent. At that point, I didn't know which

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<v Speaker 1>direction they were wanting to go in either way or not.

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<v Speaker 1>So for me, I'm waiting for the exit meetings. So okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so we could talk about this thing. What's what's you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying, like, like what do y'all see

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<v Speaker 1>or thinking the foreseeable future? Just to give me an idea.

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<v Speaker 1>So for me, if it's supposed to be a zoom

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<v Speaker 1>link sent out to me, cool, all right, I'm waiting

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<v Speaker 1>for that zoom link. So now we can chop it

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<v Speaker 1>up and see, you know, see what's up even from

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<v Speaker 1>even from a football side, from how do we improve

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<v Speaker 1>on next year? And I'm we go by no zoom

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<v Speaker 1>link two weeks, no zoom January? Now weary and no

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<v Speaker 1>did you show me? Ask you this? Then let me

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<v Speaker 1>reverse it. You and a lot of you ain't for

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of folks to call. You're gonna let them

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<v Speaker 1>know that you got this lot of ticket. You're gonnat Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to make sure. I just want to

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<v Speaker 1>make sure. And the reason I'm saying that is I

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<v Speaker 1>got to go back to your character. This is out

0:24:08.680 --> 0:24:15.280
<v Speaker 1>of character for you. Why I see you snicker? I

0:24:15.400 --> 0:24:19.840
<v Speaker 1>see you snicker because what is your character. Well, I

0:24:19.520 --> 0:24:22.080
<v Speaker 1>I thought, we don't trial, so I was. I was.

0:24:22.520 --> 0:24:27.440
<v Speaker 1>I was testifying for him because every time I'm trying

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<v Speaker 1>to pick under rocks and and talk to people and

0:24:30.880 --> 0:24:32.880
<v Speaker 1>they have nothing but great things to say about them,

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<v Speaker 1>but they also say this behavior was so out of

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<v Speaker 1>character that they're trying to figure out why and how.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's why I'm trying to figure out why how,

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<v Speaker 1>Because you got when you leave or stay there, got

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<v Speaker 1>you got fans that are gonna say, man, I love

0:24:45.840 --> 0:24:47.520
<v Speaker 1>what he did on the field, and I love how

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<v Speaker 1>I interacted with him in a community, and I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>ride with him whichever way. But you gotta clarify and

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<v Speaker 1>figure out and and and decode the anat I was

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<v Speaker 1>for this. That's this time that didn't get the zoom link.

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<v Speaker 1>Because you are a leader, I'm saying it. I don't

0:25:08.920 --> 0:25:13.000
<v Speaker 1>know if Matt Naggy was the right leader for this team,

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<v Speaker 1>but if you have the right leadership in the locker

0:25:15.560 --> 0:25:20.400
<v Speaker 1>room like you are a part of, you can always

0:25:20.480 --> 0:25:28.480
<v Speaker 1>overcome the best schemes or the improvement needed in coaching.

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<v Speaker 1>And I agree, and to move forward at that point

0:25:34.160 --> 0:25:37.760
<v Speaker 1>in time and kind of how the season win and

0:25:37.840 --> 0:25:42.359
<v Speaker 1>the conversations that were had. You know, I didn't know

0:25:42.440 --> 0:25:46.880
<v Speaker 1>if they wanted me to continue to lead. Mhm. So

0:25:47.040 --> 0:25:50.359
<v Speaker 1>for me, I wasn't gonna call him and ask him

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<v Speaker 1>to y'all do y'all want me to do? Y'all want

0:25:52.840 --> 0:25:55.080
<v Speaker 1>hey like like like, what's up? What's y'all planning? To

0:25:55.160 --> 0:25:57.880
<v Speaker 1>y'all need to leave? Because to me, it seemed as

0:25:57.920 --> 0:26:02.400
<v Speaker 1>if their message was clear mm hmm. You know I mean,

0:26:02.440 --> 0:26:04.600
<v Speaker 1>because again, it wasn't like you know, it wasn't like

0:26:04.640 --> 0:26:06.720
<v Speaker 1>I said I was gonna call this person and didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>To me, I didn't know if they wanted me to

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<v Speaker 1>lead or not once we get her, once the time progresses.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I don't get I don't I never get

0:26:16.920 --> 0:26:18.960
<v Speaker 1>that zoom like me and me and coach never chop

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<v Speaker 1>it up. Mind you. And as a person who this

0:26:20.960 --> 0:26:24.040
<v Speaker 1>is my everything prior to this point, this is my

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<v Speaker 1>guy from why why why was he a guy? What

0:26:28.760 --> 0:26:31.600
<v Speaker 1>it from day one? What did he tell you and I?

0:26:31.680 --> 0:26:33.800
<v Speaker 1>And this isn't I would say. And before you say it,

0:26:33.920 --> 0:26:37.560
<v Speaker 1>take a deep breath. I want you to say. I

0:26:37.600 --> 0:26:42.520
<v Speaker 1>want you to explain to the fans football relationships because

0:26:42.520 --> 0:26:44.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't want you to talk about him and attack

0:26:45.040 --> 0:26:46.920
<v Speaker 1>his character who he is as a man. I want

0:26:46.920 --> 0:26:51.520
<v Speaker 1>you to talk about his character and your character as

0:26:51.520 --> 0:26:55.000
<v Speaker 1>a man, because that sometimes a lot of fans are

0:26:55.119 --> 0:27:00.320
<v Speaker 1>understand not all, Not every coach conducts himself was as

0:27:00.359 --> 0:27:04.000
<v Speaker 1>a professional man, just like not every football player conducts

0:27:04.040 --> 0:27:07.080
<v Speaker 1>themselves as a professional man. There are times I conducted

0:27:07.160 --> 0:27:12.160
<v Speaker 1>myself as a immature little punk in my football career

0:27:12.720 --> 0:27:16.840
<v Speaker 1>there and then there's other times where I was a hotheaded,

0:27:17.040 --> 0:27:27.600
<v Speaker 1>mature but immature businessman. And for me and him, since

0:27:27.720 --> 0:27:32.760
<v Speaker 1>they want our coach to player relationship and communication have

0:27:32.960 --> 0:27:36.359
<v Speaker 1>been great since since since the time I stepped footing

0:27:36.359 --> 0:27:42.040
<v Speaker 1>that do it greater powerful world. And when I say great,

0:27:42.080 --> 0:27:45.359
<v Speaker 1>I mean as far as concepts that we running, concepts

0:27:45.400 --> 0:27:47.359
<v Speaker 1>that you know we kind of that he may have

0:27:47.400 --> 0:27:50.000
<v Speaker 1>saw me run in Jacksonville. Are certain things as far

0:27:50.040 --> 0:27:53.560
<v Speaker 1>as how could we make this thing get better? And

0:27:53.600 --> 0:27:56.280
<v Speaker 1>how can we be better? You know constantly, you know,

0:27:56.359 --> 0:27:58.359
<v Speaker 1>that was that was the focus. Okay, what are you

0:27:58.400 --> 0:28:00.639
<v Speaker 1>seeing here? What are you seeing there? Or you know,

0:28:00.760 --> 0:28:02.600
<v Speaker 1>certain plays you know, even if we're in a little

0:28:02.880 --> 0:28:05.359
<v Speaker 1>as a as a as an offense or as a team,

0:28:05.400 --> 0:28:08.280
<v Speaker 1>you know, we're still talking. You know, how you feeling

0:28:08.320 --> 0:28:11.200
<v Speaker 1>about this, how you feeling about the sort of communication

0:28:11.760 --> 0:28:14.479
<v Speaker 1>had always been there. So so what your tap Let

0:28:14.560 --> 0:28:16.719
<v Speaker 1>me summarize it. So what you're telling me is you

0:28:16.760 --> 0:28:23.520
<v Speaker 1>were part of the process and and then it seemed

0:28:23.760 --> 0:28:27.040
<v Speaker 1>possibly you would be transitioning out of there. You are

0:28:27.119 --> 0:28:31.200
<v Speaker 1>unaware of where you stood, and so now you felt

0:28:31.400 --> 0:28:35.400
<v Speaker 1>that you were no longer part of the process. Yes,

0:28:36.680 --> 0:28:41.440
<v Speaker 1>so when the think and as my time as my

0:28:41.600 --> 0:28:46.000
<v Speaker 1>contract is ending, because again after that season, um, I

0:28:46.040 --> 0:28:49.560
<v Speaker 1>had played on my contract, so as that's ending, you know,

0:28:49.680 --> 0:28:52.640
<v Speaker 1>obviously I'm a free agent with the cap you know,

0:28:52.880 --> 0:28:55.600
<v Speaker 1>going down how it did last year, I had no

0:28:55.720 --> 0:28:59.400
<v Speaker 1>idea at all what the circumstances of it was going

0:28:59.440 --> 0:29:02.840
<v Speaker 1>to be. Know once we get you know, past the time, Okay,

0:29:03.080 --> 0:29:05.680
<v Speaker 1>is it possible it's a franchise tag? Possible in things

0:29:05.680 --> 0:29:07.520
<v Speaker 1>like this is so many different things based on the

0:29:07.600 --> 0:29:09.880
<v Speaker 1>cap and things like that. To where as it wasn't

0:29:09.960 --> 0:29:14.400
<v Speaker 1>like it was any kind of you know, conclusion that

0:29:14.480 --> 0:29:16.440
<v Speaker 1>was gonna be foresaw, you know, it just was okay,

0:29:16.480 --> 0:29:20.120
<v Speaker 1>Like again, I'm not I haven't communicated or haven't heard

0:29:20.120 --> 0:29:22.400
<v Speaker 1>from this person. You know, nobody's you know, my agent

0:29:22.480 --> 0:29:27.440
<v Speaker 1>hasn't heard anything. So up until an hour before the

0:29:27.480 --> 0:29:30.720
<v Speaker 1>franchise tag deadline, I thought I was gonna be a

0:29:30.760 --> 0:29:36.520
<v Speaker 1>free action. And with that being, if I'm a freient

0:29:36.960 --> 0:29:40.320
<v Speaker 1>and that is the case, then okay, that's cool. It's

0:29:40.360 --> 0:29:43.320
<v Speaker 1>no hard feelings, does no anything. But it's not you know,

0:29:44.200 --> 0:29:46.560
<v Speaker 1>I didn't feel as if I should call and say hey,

0:29:46.640 --> 0:29:49.479
<v Speaker 1>like like like, where's the contract? You know what we're

0:29:49.480 --> 0:29:51.040
<v Speaker 1>gonna do. It's like cool if y'all want me to

0:29:51.080 --> 0:29:52.840
<v Speaker 1>be a free agent, y'all want me to be a

0:29:52.840 --> 0:29:54.880
<v Speaker 1>free agent, like there's nothing else I could do about that,

0:29:55.120 --> 0:29:57.520
<v Speaker 1>Like I can't. I can't make y'all not make me

0:29:57.600 --> 0:30:02.400
<v Speaker 1>a free agent. You know, you you you got a

0:30:02.400 --> 0:30:05.280
<v Speaker 1>little antie frustrated with the process because you are no

0:30:05.320 --> 0:30:09.440
<v Speaker 1>longer part of process, which meant ultimately he was out

0:30:09.480 --> 0:30:11.640
<v Speaker 1>of he was out of his comfort zone because of

0:30:11.680 --> 0:30:18.040
<v Speaker 1>the you weren't in control of it anymore. A little

0:30:18.080 --> 0:30:24.880
<v Speaker 1>bit frustrated. Yes, I also think that I'm a type

0:30:24.920 --> 0:30:27.440
<v Speaker 1>person where if if the next chapter was gonna be

0:30:27.520 --> 0:30:30.400
<v Speaker 1>me being a free agent, I was good with it.

0:30:32.000 --> 0:30:33.240
<v Speaker 1>And when I said I was good with that, I

0:30:33.440 --> 0:30:36.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, at this time last year, cool if if

0:30:36.240 --> 0:30:38.640
<v Speaker 1>if if my contract isn't gonna be extended or if

0:30:38.680 --> 0:30:40.560
<v Speaker 1>we aren't working through any of that. I don't have

0:30:40.600 --> 0:30:43.280
<v Speaker 1>any gripe. I don't have any hard feelings. I don't

0:30:43.320 --> 0:30:45.400
<v Speaker 1>have I also don't think if I'm about to be

0:30:45.440 --> 0:30:49.200
<v Speaker 1>a free agent and it's nothing for me to communicate

0:30:49.240 --> 0:30:52.080
<v Speaker 1>to it's like I mean to me, it was, you know,

0:30:52.280 --> 0:30:55.600
<v Speaker 1>they were speaking through actions or whatever the case may be,

0:30:55.960 --> 0:30:58.320
<v Speaker 1>with the lack of communication anything, because again, this is

0:30:58.360 --> 0:31:04.400
<v Speaker 1>a league where even when I left Jacksonville, before I left,

0:31:04.680 --> 0:31:06.920
<v Speaker 1>I talked to at that time it was Tom Coffling,

0:31:07.440 --> 0:31:10.160
<v Speaker 1>the GM and coach Maron. We had a great conversation.

0:31:10.560 --> 0:31:14.880
<v Speaker 1>Ultimately I didn't sign back um for whatever reason. But

0:31:15.000 --> 0:31:17.960
<v Speaker 1>it wasn't that, you know, it was just Okay, we

0:31:18.000 --> 0:31:20.160
<v Speaker 1>don't know what's going on. We don't hear nothing, haven't

0:31:20.200 --> 0:31:24.520
<v Speaker 1>heard nothing anything. And then once that point hit, I'm like, Okay,

0:31:24.560 --> 0:31:26.880
<v Speaker 1>well I guess I guess the writings on the wall. Well.

0:31:26.920 --> 0:31:29.400
<v Speaker 1>The other part is you also gotta you are at

0:31:29.400 --> 0:31:33.160
<v Speaker 1>a disadvantage. You had one of the best communicators, whether

0:31:33.200 --> 0:31:36.480
<v Speaker 1>you liked his message and or not, with Tom Coughlin, right,

0:31:36.520 --> 0:31:39.040
<v Speaker 1>and I said, best communication where you knew what he stood.

0:31:40.280 --> 0:31:42.320
<v Speaker 1>I don't agree with how he said it, but at

0:31:42.400 --> 0:31:44.280
<v Speaker 1>least you knew where you still like you weren't walking

0:31:44.320 --> 0:31:46.800
<v Speaker 1>in You weren't walking in the office going I think

0:31:46.800 --> 0:31:49.160
<v Speaker 1>he likes me. You had the benefit of communication. Yeah,

0:31:49.240 --> 0:31:52.440
<v Speaker 1>you too much communication, almost a little bit like you're

0:31:52.440 --> 0:31:54.320
<v Speaker 1>walking there you go, man, I wonder how you staying?

0:31:54.320 --> 0:31:56.360
<v Speaker 1>You walk out there go. I know, I'm out this,

0:31:56.680 --> 0:32:01.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm out this booch what in the end, And that

0:32:02.040 --> 0:32:05.720
<v Speaker 1>was the last. That was the only kind of experience

0:32:05.760 --> 0:32:09.760
<v Speaker 1>that I had with my contract ending and about to

0:32:09.800 --> 0:32:16.480
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0:32:16.960 --> 0:32:20.440
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0:32:44.880 --> 0:32:49.320
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0:32:49.920 --> 0:32:51.920
<v Speaker 1>That's what I'm here for, a brother, cut to a

0:32:52.000 --> 0:32:58.560
<v Speaker 1>Podcast dot Com. You didn't have a lot of history

0:32:58.720 --> 0:33:02.400
<v Speaker 1>but the past history with Acteville and Tom Coughlan was this,

0:33:03.120 --> 0:33:05.760
<v Speaker 1>and so now you come to a new organization and

0:33:05.800 --> 0:33:11.680
<v Speaker 1>it's slightly different, right, and your temperament and what expectations

0:33:11.920 --> 0:33:15.640
<v Speaker 1>and how things were in the beginning and everything changed,

0:33:15.680 --> 0:33:20.400
<v Speaker 1>and so you you tried to maneuver through it the

0:33:20.440 --> 0:33:23.880
<v Speaker 1>best you could. Wasn't the best, wasn't the worst. Definitely

0:33:23.880 --> 0:33:28.800
<v Speaker 1>have seen worst car crashes. Right, So now you're in

0:33:31.040 --> 0:33:33.880
<v Speaker 1>you're going through the season. I believe you had got

0:33:33.960 --> 0:33:40.240
<v Speaker 1>you you got COVID right, um, y'all draft some linemen

0:33:40.280 --> 0:33:43.120
<v Speaker 1>that can't play, you get you get a quarterback that's

0:33:43.520 --> 0:33:50.680
<v Speaker 1>a dynamic and man, you you out there, you're not

0:33:50.720 --> 0:33:54.560
<v Speaker 1>catching any passes? How do how do we go from

0:33:54.680 --> 0:34:00.480
<v Speaker 1>coming off a two back to back? How wow? Shorts

0:34:00.640 --> 0:34:05.040
<v Speaker 1>to that boy? You went from a locomotive a G

0:34:05.240 --> 0:34:12.200
<v Speaker 1>five to a truck. Yeah. Yeah, And you know that

0:34:12.440 --> 0:34:16.439
<v Speaker 1>was a lot of frustration that you know was going

0:34:16.480 --> 0:34:18.120
<v Speaker 1>on through the course of the season because I had

0:34:18.200 --> 0:34:22.120
<v Speaker 1>saw how I was used and how they were deploying

0:34:22.120 --> 0:34:27.400
<v Speaker 1>me to defenses and years prior. Hold on, hold on,

0:34:28.360 --> 0:34:31.640
<v Speaker 1>dumb that down for some of us, right, simplify that,

0:34:32.160 --> 0:34:35.160
<v Speaker 1>what do you mean you the years before you were

0:34:35.239 --> 0:34:39.719
<v Speaker 1>being used as what the number one to go to

0:34:40.160 --> 0:34:48.000
<v Speaker 1>or decoy? Yes, yes, okay. Concepts that were that we're

0:34:48.080 --> 0:34:51.319
<v Speaker 1>running you know, um where I have been maybe at

0:34:51.400 --> 0:34:53.759
<v Speaker 1>number two in this concept based on this defensitive like

0:34:53.800 --> 0:34:56.719
<v Speaker 1>that like again I'm not I'm not running it, you know,

0:34:56.960 --> 0:35:00.520
<v Speaker 1>or it may be an example like I went. One

0:35:00.560 --> 0:35:04.840
<v Speaker 1>of our main one of our heavier concepts was deep cross.

0:35:04.920 --> 0:35:07.000
<v Speaker 1>You know, I go through seventeen games and I don't

0:35:07.040 --> 0:35:11.040
<v Speaker 1>run a deep cross the entire season. So okay, so

0:35:11.080 --> 0:35:13.799
<v Speaker 1>how do you handle that? Don't don't tell me about what.

0:35:13.840 --> 0:35:17.920
<v Speaker 1>They don't tell me about what. Yeah, they didn't let you.

0:35:18.239 --> 0:35:21.160
<v Speaker 1>They didn't allow you to run anymore deep crosses. And

0:35:21.239 --> 0:35:23.080
<v Speaker 1>the reason why they don't allow you run anymore deep

0:35:23.080 --> 0:35:26.680
<v Speaker 1>crosses because they had some other receivers that they wanted

0:35:26.719 --> 0:35:30.320
<v Speaker 1>to get the ball too. Because of limitations of things.

0:35:30.320 --> 0:35:33.440
<v Speaker 1>How they changed. Right, if you run that deep cross,

0:35:34.080 --> 0:35:38.439
<v Speaker 1>then the young fresh lad guy that they want to showcase, right,

0:35:38.800 --> 0:35:45.839
<v Speaker 1>and I call that artificially making that guy the playmaker. Right,

0:35:45.920 --> 0:35:48.200
<v Speaker 1>They put him in position to make him run the

0:35:48.360 --> 0:35:51.840
<v Speaker 1>route that they know as the first read, and long behold,

0:35:51.840 --> 0:35:54.080
<v Speaker 1>he is the first read they throw it to him,

0:35:54.200 --> 0:36:01.560
<v Speaker 1>how are you handling now seen they sleep, your career

0:36:02.280 --> 0:36:07.400
<v Speaker 1>change in front of you on the field. It was

0:36:07.760 --> 0:36:12.040
<v Speaker 1>it was extremely frusture, and it was something to where

0:36:12.040 --> 0:36:15.000
<v Speaker 1>as you know, for me, I never I didn't want

0:36:15.040 --> 0:36:21.080
<v Speaker 1>to devalue the character and the person and player who

0:36:21.200 --> 0:36:24.360
<v Speaker 1>I've you know, worked and built myself to be that

0:36:26.360 --> 0:36:29.640
<v Speaker 1>I am, you know by my frustration, you know. And

0:36:29.680 --> 0:36:33.200
<v Speaker 1>I also didn't want to be a distraction and take

0:36:33.239 --> 0:36:37.240
<v Speaker 1>away from what the ultimate tasks and gold is at hand,

0:36:37.280 --> 0:36:39.640
<v Speaker 1>which is to you know, win games, to have a

0:36:39.719 --> 0:36:42.719
<v Speaker 1>top five offense, and to do these things. But at

0:36:42.719 --> 0:36:45.319
<v Speaker 1>the same time, when it's like when I obviously see

0:36:45.360 --> 0:36:49.360
<v Speaker 1>my role changing and I'm not being use how I

0:36:49.520 --> 0:36:53.680
<v Speaker 1>happen prior, and you know, we're also as we're going

0:36:53.760 --> 0:36:57.280
<v Speaker 1>through the course of the season where a bottom three offense,

0:36:57.360 --> 0:37:00.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, it's hard to it's hard to just accept that.

0:37:00.360 --> 0:37:02.520
<v Speaker 1>That was the hardest thing was just to be content

0:37:03.320 --> 0:37:06.880
<v Speaker 1>with what was going on and how it was happening,

0:37:07.360 --> 0:37:09.239
<v Speaker 1>and to just sit there and just you know, be

0:37:09.360 --> 0:37:14.040
<v Speaker 1>content with you know, so let me ask you, you

0:37:14.080 --> 0:37:17.360
<v Speaker 1>had COVID now I should wrestle reports that ah, you

0:37:17.480 --> 0:37:22.520
<v Speaker 1>lost weight. The reason where you are I'm asking you

0:37:22.560 --> 0:37:28.040
<v Speaker 1>weren't utilized and you weren't featured anymore because you had

0:37:28.080 --> 0:37:33.280
<v Speaker 1>COVID or because you believe things were changing for whatever reason,

0:37:34.320 --> 0:37:37.040
<v Speaker 1>because I believe things were things were changing, and it

0:37:37.520 --> 0:37:40.240
<v Speaker 1>and it happens, though it does happen for for whatever

0:37:40.360 --> 0:37:45.000
<v Speaker 1>reason you want. Right. One thing about football people don't

0:37:45.040 --> 0:37:51.680
<v Speaker 1>really realize, right, there's a few positions that age doesn't factor.

0:37:52.400 --> 0:37:56.480
<v Speaker 1>Actually age factors in in kind of the concept of wine.

0:37:56.840 --> 0:38:00.200
<v Speaker 1>As you get older in the National Football leagu the

0:38:00.239 --> 0:38:03.040
<v Speaker 1>only two positions that allow you to get older, and

0:38:03.120 --> 0:38:07.359
<v Speaker 1>they don't unless something drastic happens. They don't really look

0:38:07.360 --> 0:38:13.840
<v Speaker 1>at you like you. The plague is quarterback. As you

0:38:13.880 --> 0:38:16.719
<v Speaker 1>get older, quarterback, you get more money. You look you're

0:38:16.760 --> 0:38:21.640
<v Speaker 1>actually um valued more as you will become an older quarterback,

0:38:21.760 --> 0:38:24.640
<v Speaker 1>especially ones that actually can read defenses right and who

0:38:24.680 --> 0:38:29.319
<v Speaker 1>can retain information and and be able to construct and

0:38:29.400 --> 0:38:33.520
<v Speaker 1>deconstructing offense. I can tell you to contained offense from

0:38:33.520 --> 0:38:37.880
<v Speaker 1>the back of their hands. And kickers, that's it. Running backs,

0:38:37.880 --> 0:38:39.680
<v Speaker 1>you get older, you hit thirty, may get out of here.

0:38:40.120 --> 0:38:42.200
<v Speaker 1>Wire receivers tight ends, I get out of here. The

0:38:42.280 --> 0:38:45.000
<v Speaker 1>market changes. All that market changing in the NFL. The

0:38:45.120 --> 0:38:49.040
<v Speaker 1>younger you are, the more money you make. Every year

0:38:49.120 --> 0:38:51.440
<v Speaker 1>you get older, They're going, man, we gotta get him

0:38:51.440 --> 0:38:55.560
<v Speaker 1>out of here. He because the old adages you're either

0:38:55.600 --> 0:38:58.359
<v Speaker 1>getting better or you're getting worse. But they need to

0:38:58.400 --> 0:39:00.640
<v Speaker 1>throw that other one in there is what one year

0:39:00.680 --> 0:39:06.800
<v Speaker 1>older means one year closer to retirement from from their perspective, fishing.

0:39:08.440 --> 0:39:11.520
<v Speaker 1>So as things are changing, how do you believe from

0:39:11.560 --> 0:39:15.960
<v Speaker 1>your standpoint, let's let's play Devil's advocate. Do you believe

0:39:16.600 --> 0:39:19.719
<v Speaker 1>the way you operated and allowed your frustration to get

0:39:19.760 --> 0:39:22.600
<v Speaker 1>the best of you. Do you believe you could have

0:39:22.640 --> 0:39:31.800
<v Speaker 1>handled it better sitting in front of me today? Communication wise? Yeah?

0:39:31.880 --> 0:39:37.600
<v Speaker 1>I think so? Um explain explain the communication wise because

0:39:37.600 --> 0:39:40.239
<v Speaker 1>what I don't want you to do is make it

0:39:40.280 --> 0:39:43.480
<v Speaker 1>all you know. I think I think in the society

0:39:43.520 --> 0:39:46.120
<v Speaker 1>we are right now, athletes don't want to take ownership.

0:39:46.760 --> 0:39:48.480
<v Speaker 1>I know the hell I didn't when I was playing.

0:39:48.480 --> 0:39:51.640
<v Speaker 1>It was always somebody else's fault. Right again, I'm just

0:39:51.800 --> 0:39:57.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm just exposing myself. Right, what could you have done

0:39:59.000 --> 0:40:02.920
<v Speaker 1>to improve? Because you are not going to not be

0:40:03.000 --> 0:40:05.479
<v Speaker 1>on the team next year, But people are gonna ask

0:40:05.960 --> 0:40:08.440
<v Speaker 1>what happens when Alan Robinson is not getting his past

0:40:08.560 --> 0:40:13.840
<v Speaker 1>is can he handle the mental adjustments of football? Because

0:40:13.840 --> 0:40:20.719
<v Speaker 1>he showed us or we heard in Chicago little adversity

0:40:21.360 --> 0:40:23.480
<v Speaker 1>he from Michigan, but I don't know if he really

0:40:23.520 --> 0:40:28.800
<v Speaker 1>fall tough. Yeah. And for me, like I said, based

0:40:28.800 --> 0:40:32.839
<v Speaker 1>on the communication maybe offseason wives or something like that, Yeah,

0:40:32.880 --> 0:40:35.040
<v Speaker 1>I think that could have been better. I think once

0:40:35.080 --> 0:40:38.799
<v Speaker 1>we got to the season, with all this frustration and

0:40:38.800 --> 0:40:41.880
<v Speaker 1>stuff that was going on, the only way that I

0:40:41.960 --> 0:40:47.120
<v Speaker 1>know is this year I practiced harder. I tried to

0:40:47.280 --> 0:40:50.479
<v Speaker 1>I tried to perfect more of my crab just based

0:40:50.520 --> 0:40:54.239
<v Speaker 1>on the simple factor the opportunities if they were going

0:40:54.280 --> 0:40:56.640
<v Speaker 1>to be limited, the ones that I was gonna get,

0:40:57.080 --> 0:41:00.239
<v Speaker 1>I tried to make sure that I was ready to

0:41:00.280 --> 0:41:03.799
<v Speaker 1>be able to take full advantage of those opportunities with

0:41:03.920 --> 0:41:07.080
<v Speaker 1>the ones that were being dealt. Obviously, you know, you

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<v Speaker 1>get a game like Cincinnati game where I have a drop,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, but that's that's not even you know, for me,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's it's ball, you know what I'm saying. Players

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<v Speaker 1>like that, Yeah, yeah, you can always take some place back.

0:41:16.960 --> 0:41:19.279
<v Speaker 1>And for me as a player, I'm always trying to

0:41:19.320 --> 0:41:22.319
<v Speaker 1>critique myself on how I could be better. So if

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<v Speaker 1>that was even this year, even on certain routes, if

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<v Speaker 1>you'll come back to the huddle in practice or whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, whether if it's Andy or Nick or whoever's

0:41:30.200 --> 0:41:33.120
<v Speaker 1>in in or not in and watching, I'm you know,

0:41:33.440 --> 0:41:35.279
<v Speaker 1>trying to communicate them, Yo, what are you seeing? What

0:41:35.320 --> 0:41:36.719
<v Speaker 1>do you think I could do better here? Which I

0:41:36.719 --> 0:41:39.000
<v Speaker 1>could do better here? Rather that's you know, cut, you

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<v Speaker 1>just split a little bit on this, on this, on

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<v Speaker 1>this boot to the right, so that maybe you could

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<v Speaker 1>get you know, in the quarterback vision a little bit better.

0:41:46.200 --> 0:41:48.120
<v Speaker 1>Maybe you can you know, things like that. I tried

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<v Speaker 1>to make sure that I would communicate to those guys

0:41:51.280 --> 0:41:54.239
<v Speaker 1>and you know, um and really kind of leaned on

0:41:54.320 --> 0:41:56.120
<v Speaker 1>my teammates some of that to just kind of say

0:41:56.120 --> 0:41:57.520
<v Speaker 1>like yo, like like what you think? What do you

0:41:57.560 --> 0:41:59.440
<v Speaker 1>think about this round? You know, even even some of

0:41:59.440 --> 0:42:01.160
<v Speaker 1>the other guys in the room you know where I'm

0:42:01.360 --> 0:42:02.840
<v Speaker 1>we're watching film or some of you know, what you

0:42:02.880 --> 0:42:04.680
<v Speaker 1>think here? What you think here? Acting the quarterbacks? What

0:42:04.760 --> 0:42:06.200
<v Speaker 1>you think here? What you think here? Because I just

0:42:06.200 --> 0:42:09.400
<v Speaker 1>wanted to maximize the opportunities that I was gonna have,

0:42:09.800 --> 0:42:14.000
<v Speaker 1>no matter how frustrating it may have been. You mentioned

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<v Speaker 1>before um, the next chapter. How are you approaching the

0:42:18.000 --> 0:42:22.399
<v Speaker 1>next chapter in your life? Now? I can say, man,

0:42:22.560 --> 0:42:27.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm looking forward to it from a standpoint that years

0:42:27.239 --> 0:42:31.400
<v Speaker 1>like this for me make it special because you remember

0:42:31.400 --> 0:42:35.520
<v Speaker 1>why you play the game. And I'm sitting here in January,

0:42:35.600 --> 0:42:39.839
<v Speaker 1>whatever it is, and I'm looking forward to it. Man,

0:42:40.000 --> 0:42:43.600
<v Speaker 1>I can't. I can't. I can't wait to you know,

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<v Speaker 1>get to work and and start to you know, build

0:42:47.640 --> 0:42:50.400
<v Speaker 1>for next year, you know, and because again for me,

0:42:50.440 --> 0:42:53.479
<v Speaker 1>it's like you said before, man, coming off of two

0:42:53.520 --> 0:42:57.000
<v Speaker 1>thousand yard seasons, coming off of two hundred catches. You know,

0:42:57.080 --> 0:43:02.040
<v Speaker 1>I was looking to continue to a sin you know,

0:43:02.239 --> 0:43:05.920
<v Speaker 1>from from a number's perspective obviously, but as a player

0:43:06.000 --> 0:43:08.680
<v Speaker 1>as well, and for me, you know, based on whatever

0:43:08.719 --> 0:43:11.319
<v Speaker 1>the circumstances is or was, you know, That's what I

0:43:11.360 --> 0:43:15.000
<v Speaker 1>have to sit with throughout this entire offseason, which again

0:43:15.360 --> 0:43:17.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm not. Am I frustrated with it? Yeah? Am I

0:43:17.920 --> 0:43:20.080
<v Speaker 1>mad at it? No? And the reason why I'm not

0:43:20.200 --> 0:43:24.160
<v Speaker 1>mad at it is because that that fire, you know,

0:43:24.520 --> 0:43:26.520
<v Speaker 1>it's lit. You know. Every time I go to work out,

0:43:26.600 --> 0:43:28.400
<v Speaker 1>every time I'm getting some pt, you know, I got

0:43:28.480 --> 0:43:33.640
<v Speaker 1>a goal and mission in mind. Well, listen, I appreciate

0:43:33.680 --> 0:43:35.640
<v Speaker 1>you taking that time to kind of break it down.

0:43:36.160 --> 0:43:38.759
<v Speaker 1>Un let's talk ball, because I think it's extremely important

0:43:39.640 --> 0:43:42.920
<v Speaker 1>for not just our fans, your fans, but people are

0:43:42.920 --> 0:43:52.080
<v Speaker 1>here the knowledge and also the emotional side of playing football. Listen,

0:43:52.120 --> 0:43:54.919
<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm the worst case studying on the man kind

0:43:55.040 --> 0:43:57.840
<v Speaker 1>is well. I think it's probably some worst people that

0:43:58.040 --> 0:44:03.640
<v Speaker 1>we're not gonna mention the names that it's nobody right.

0:44:04.880 --> 0:44:08.160
<v Speaker 1>But I understand your frustration. But I also think you

0:44:08.160 --> 0:44:10.960
<v Speaker 1>you have a You have an opportunity that some men

0:44:11.000 --> 0:44:15.080
<v Speaker 1>don't get. You got an opportunity to rewrite it now. Right. Yeah,

0:44:15.160 --> 0:44:16.640
<v Speaker 1>what you did or what you said, or how you

0:44:16.719 --> 0:44:22.080
<v Speaker 1>behaved may turn a few people off, but when they

0:44:22.120 --> 0:44:24.160
<v Speaker 1>get you in the building and they see how genuine

0:44:24.200 --> 0:44:28.759
<v Speaker 1>you are, how remorseful you are, how you also are

0:44:28.840 --> 0:44:31.920
<v Speaker 1>driven in performance based and sometimes when we're so driven

0:44:31.960 --> 0:44:37.640
<v Speaker 1>from sports performance based, it's sometimes frustrates us and it

0:44:37.719 --> 0:44:39.880
<v Speaker 1>puts a lot of pressure and makes us do things

0:44:41.239 --> 0:44:45.440
<v Speaker 1>at that moment that at times can be out of character.

0:44:45.840 --> 0:44:48.760
<v Speaker 1>But if it happens long, if it happens enough times,

0:44:48.800 --> 0:44:52.240
<v Speaker 1>it becomes who we are. And just like anything else,

0:44:52.360 --> 0:44:54.399
<v Speaker 1>you know, when you grow up in Detroit, you grew

0:44:54.480 --> 0:44:56.840
<v Speaker 1>up in Lexington, grew up in Vegas, you grew up

0:44:56.840 --> 0:45:00.799
<v Speaker 1>in Los Angeles. If you're around something and operate a

0:45:00.840 --> 0:45:03.719
<v Speaker 1>certain way for so long, it becomes who you are,

0:45:04.280 --> 0:45:09.120
<v Speaker 1>good or bad. Right, but you are for tough because

0:45:09.920 --> 0:45:16.600
<v Speaker 1>God knew you're gonna be handled handed, these short falls,

0:45:16.680 --> 0:45:22.840
<v Speaker 1>these circumstances, these obstacles, getting injured. Having probably one of

0:45:22.880 --> 0:45:28.680
<v Speaker 1>the strongest minded and stubborn and general managers presidents known

0:45:29.239 --> 0:45:32.440
<v Speaker 1>to the National Football League with Tom Coughlin, And then

0:45:32.480 --> 0:45:36.520
<v Speaker 1>you go to the Chicago story book franchise and it

0:45:36.600 --> 0:45:39.680
<v Speaker 1>becomes frustrating, not because you can't play it, because you

0:45:39.719 --> 0:45:42.560
<v Speaker 1>guys have some beasts. You've got some Pro Bowlers, some

0:45:42.719 --> 0:45:45.279
<v Speaker 1>all decade players on your team, and y'all go from

0:45:46.120 --> 0:45:52.120
<v Speaker 1>You'll go from uh sugar two blue cheese, right like that.

0:45:54.440 --> 0:45:56.719
<v Speaker 1>And so now, man, you've got a chance that some

0:45:56.760 --> 0:46:01.040
<v Speaker 1>people will give their left arm for is to rewrite

0:46:01.040 --> 0:46:03.399
<v Speaker 1>it and make it right. And I hope you get

0:46:03.440 --> 0:46:06.640
<v Speaker 1>that opportunity, and I believe you will, because, like I said,

0:46:07.640 --> 0:46:09.359
<v Speaker 1>you built for tough man. You're from one of the

0:46:09.360 --> 0:46:13.120
<v Speaker 1>toughest cities out there, right, and you got that opportunity.

0:46:13.120 --> 0:46:19.560
<v Speaker 1>So I expect that you will take ass and take names.

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate it, man, and I'm I'm I'm looking forward

0:46:23.520 --> 0:46:26.680
<v Speaker 1>to man like like you know this this off season

0:46:26.800 --> 0:46:29.480
<v Speaker 1>already for me. You know I has been such a

0:46:30.280 --> 0:46:33.600
<v Speaker 1>I got said for it. Man. I'm every day brother,

0:46:33.800 --> 0:46:37.759
<v Speaker 1>this physical therapy, stuff, training, I'm locked in man. Man,

0:46:37.840 --> 0:46:40.600
<v Speaker 1>love connecting with you. Man. I look forward to see

0:46:40.640 --> 0:46:43.360
<v Speaker 1>where you go. You may end up staying in Chicago,

0:46:43.760 --> 0:46:48.040
<v Speaker 1>you may not, but man, look forward to it. Um.

0:46:48.080 --> 0:46:54.000
<v Speaker 1>I appreciate it, man, you do. You are a unique person.

0:46:54.600 --> 0:46:59.000
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