1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:03,160 Speaker 1: Come back in everybody second hour of Clay and Buck 2 00:00:03,320 --> 00:00:07,960 Speaker 1: picks off right now and we said we're going to 3 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 1: dive into a Clay. I kind of wants you because 4 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 1: I voted for this. Yeah, sure, I voted for this. 5 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:17,760 Speaker 1: I did. I wanted somebody who was going to come 6 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:25,160 Speaker 1: in and say this cultural Marxism, this Maoist cultural revolution 7 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:28,960 Speaker 1: that was really put in motion by the eight years 8 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 1: of Obama, but continued during the presidency of Joe Biden. 9 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:45,600 Speaker 1: This turning our back on our history, rewriting history, feeling 10 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 1: like we should all be or at least some of 11 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:50,519 Speaker 1: us should be sorry for American history. All this No 12 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 1: enough is enough, and I think that we reached our 13 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 1: fill of that nonsense a long time ago. But here 14 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 1: is a moment in time where I actually wasn't even 15 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:05,400 Speaker 1: expecting Trump to do this. I didn't know this is 16 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:08,559 Speaker 1: going to happen. He has said that it is time 17 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:12,919 Speaker 1: for the Washington Commanders to go back to the Redskins. 18 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 1: He had a post on truth Social he said the 19 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 1: Washington Whatevers should immediately change their name back to the 20 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:24,960 Speaker 1: Washington Redskins football team. There's a big clamoring for this. Likewise, 21 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:28,760 Speaker 1: the Cleveland Indians, one of the six original baseball teams 22 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:32,199 Speaker 1: with a storied past are great. Indian people in massive 23 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 1: numbers want this to happen. Their heritage and prestige is 24 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 1: systematically being taken away from them. Times are different now 25 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 1: than they were three or four years ago. We are 26 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 1: a country of passion and common sense. All Caps owners 27 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 1: get it done. Mister Clay, is this going to get done? 28 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 1: What do you make of this? What do you think 29 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 1: of this? Is it possible? And what do the fans want? 30 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 1: Take me through it? 31 00:01:57,240 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 2: So I put up a poll, and I'm not saying 32 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 2: that my audience is one hundred percent representative of the 33 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 2: average sports fan. But my poll showed ninety seven percent 34 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 2: of my audience wanted the name to go back to 35 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:16,640 Speaker 2: Washington Redskins. And I asked the question, and I think 36 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 2: it's a good one. Is there anybody out there that, 37 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 2: even if they are super left leaning, where it would 38 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:27,360 Speaker 2: be ninety seven to three the other way right? So 39 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 2: let's presume Keith Olberman put up this poll for his audience. 40 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 2: I don't think ninety seven percent of his audience, even 41 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 2: though they are super left winging, crazy insane people, would 42 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:44,519 Speaker 2: vote Hey, keep the Washington commander's name, and I don't 43 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 2: know that the team and New York correct me if 44 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 2: I'm wrong, has not commented on this yet. The Cleveland 45 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 2: Indians did and they said we love the Guardians, And 46 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:58,800 Speaker 2: everybody listening in Cleveland right now is saying, no, we don't. 47 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 2: This is a stupid name. We would much prefer that 48 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:06,519 Speaker 2: the Cleveland Indian name came back. But I would say 49 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 2: that what is interesting to me about this is twofold one. 50 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 2: Trump is putting it on his shoulders and actually giving 51 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 2: the team a little bit of a pass because he's saying, hey, 52 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:23,919 Speaker 2: if you want a brand new stadium on federal land 53 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:26,919 Speaker 2: in Washington, d C. And you want the federal government 54 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 2: and the District of Columbia government to help you and 55 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 2: provide hundreds of millions of dollars in financing, then one 56 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 2: of the conditions associated with this is I think you 57 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 2: should be the Redskins. 58 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 1: Again. I don't dislike that. 59 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 2: This is not somebody deciding to come into a private 60 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 2: business and dictate how they do business. He's saying, hey, 61 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 2: if you want the federal government's help to build a 62 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 2: great new stadium in Washington, D C. Then there are 63 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 2: all sorts of conditions that the government, as a partner 64 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 2: in this negotiation, would demand. Returning the name of Redskins. 65 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 2: I think is a significant ask, but also a reasonable 66 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 2: one point two. This is I think symbolically important because 67 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 2: I hit it at this when we went to break. 68 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 2: I like to think of myself as a reasonable person. Now, 69 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 2: some of you out there might say you are crazy, 70 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 2: You're not really okay, but I think in general I 71 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:27,479 Speaker 2: have my pulse on the average sports fan in America. 72 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 2: I think I could sit down with them, no matter 73 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:32,040 Speaker 2: where they're from, and we could have a good conversation, 74 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 2: no matter what their background. Buck points out, and I 75 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 2: do think it's true that if you are a college 76 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:39,720 Speaker 2: football fan, I feel like I could find common ground 77 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 2: with you. 78 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 1: Claylond is not really a big hug guy, but if 79 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:44,840 Speaker 1: you like college football, just give him a hug when 80 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 1: you see him. He's fine with it. As long as 81 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 1: you say you love a college football team, preferably SEC. 82 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 1: Maybe shake his hand if you're not an SEC fan, 83 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:54,600 Speaker 1: but if you love college football, you can definitely shake 84 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 1: and just give him a hug. If you like the SEC, 85 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:57,160 Speaker 1: he's fine with it. 86 00:04:57,480 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 2: I think we speak a common language and and for 87 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 2: a long time I was of the opinion, hey, I'm 88 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 2: so tired of the mascot argument, and I think this 89 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:12,039 Speaker 2: is the average guy and gal out there that I 90 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 2: was reasonable and I said, Okay, we'll give up redskins, 91 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 2: we'll give up Indians, we won't fight that hard over this, 92 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:23,160 Speaker 2: and then we'll just put it to rest forever. And 93 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 2: it never does because leftists aren't satisfied. 94 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 1: Ever. 95 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 2: They never sit back and say, hey, you know what, 96 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:36,239 Speaker 2: we're happy. And I would say this, think about gay marriage. 97 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:39,360 Speaker 2: Whatever you think about gay marriage. I thought, when gay 98 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:43,039 Speaker 2: marriage happened, okay, we've reached the logical extension of the 99 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 2: left in America. There is nowhere else they can go. Instead, 100 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:52,839 Speaker 2: they weren't happy with that. They decided that men had 101 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:58,599 Speaker 2: to win women's championships because men are actually women. And 102 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 2: they decided that, Hey, also, let's argue that if you 103 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:08,800 Speaker 2: don't accept someone else's change gender, you're a bigot. And 104 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:11,280 Speaker 2: buck is right here. I think if they could continue 105 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 2: the advance, it would move on to hey, it's unacceptable 106 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 2: if you're a man and you don't want to sleep 107 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:22,599 Speaker 2: with a man pretending to be a woman, because they're 108 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 2: real women. 109 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 1: Too. 110 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 2: Chicks with are just normal chicks. And that was a bleep. 111 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 2: I didn't say it, but that's kind of where we're headed. 112 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 2: And so my point on this is the crazy just 113 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 2: gets accelerated and there isn't a reasonable Hey, okay, once 114 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:46,920 Speaker 2: and for all, we've negotiated this like business people would, 115 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 2: and you say we're gonna put this behind us. Now 116 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 2: this is a negotiation. They keep asking for more, and 117 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 2: so I think instead of giving them more, culturally, you 118 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 2: have to take back what you already gave them, and 119 00:06:58,000 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 2: you have to draw the line and say we're not 120 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 2: playing this game anymore. A lot of colleges have changed, 121 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:07,360 Speaker 2: particularly if they had anything that is Indian or Native 122 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 2: American related. A lot of college have changed their mascot. 123 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 2: Dartmouth that's one of the worst examples of this, I 124 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 2: think just because they went from uh, they they went 125 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 2: from their Indian mascot to the big Green. 126 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 1: What is that? That's not that's I don't even know 127 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 1: what what is the big green? It makes no sense. Yeah, 128 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 1: you're the color. I mean, it's it's also it makes 129 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 1: no sense at all. I'm trying to see some of 130 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 1: these other ones here. Saint John's I actually had a 131 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 1: Saint John's Red Men starter jacket growing up, just because 132 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 1: I thought it was cool, and they changed that one 133 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 1: to the Red Storm. U mass was the Minute Men, 134 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 1: and then they got rid of that. What's wrong with 135 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 1: the Minute Men? I mean naming things after colonials? The 136 00:07:56,840 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 1: colonials are gone. At George Washington, the. 137 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 2: Colonial Army was fighting against colonization, and they decided because 138 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 2: it had colonial in it, it had to go. Because 139 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 2: people are too much of morons to even understand language 140 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 2: these days, and frankly universities which should exist to educate 141 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 2: morons aka eighteen year old. I'm still fired up about this. 142 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 2: They changed the name to the GW Revolutionaries, and I 143 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:26,119 Speaker 2: don't think it's coincidental that the quad immediately got taken 144 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:30,680 Speaker 2: over by a bunch of crazy left wing radicals who 145 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 2: want to say they put the cafe or how you 146 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 2: pronounce it on George Washington's statue in the center of campus. 147 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 1: You can't hold in idiots. I didn't know about this. 148 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:42,440 Speaker 1: One Eastern Washington University used to be the mascot was 149 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 1: the Savages. That's pretty that's pretty bad. I mean, yes, 150 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:49,559 Speaker 1: you know, if you're on the if your team is 151 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:51,679 Speaker 1: called the Savages. I feel like you're getting fired up 152 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 1: before you get out there on the field. There's a 153 00:08:55,200 --> 00:09:00,720 Speaker 1: lot of these. Elon University was the Fighting Christians and 154 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:04,679 Speaker 1: they changed that. You can't even do that well. 155 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 2: I mean there was pressure on Notre Dame the Fighting Irish, 156 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:12,680 Speaker 2: which is one of the great mascots, and again we just. 157 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:15,080 Speaker 1: That would be, that would be so to me the 158 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 1: Fighting Irish today. First of all, no Irish people are 159 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:20,560 Speaker 1: actually no people of Irish descenter offended. The whole thing 160 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 1: is absurd. A leprechaun, it's cute, it's funny until you 161 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 1: see the leprechaonn movies, which are actually terrifying with Warwick Davis, 162 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 1: who you know from Willow, which is a fun movie throwback, 163 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 1: but the actual Leprechaun movies very have you ever seen them? Clay, 164 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 1: very unsettling. It's a mean little leprechaun. He's not nice. 165 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 1: The horror not nice. It's a horror movie. Some people 166 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 1: are saying the meanest Leprechaun. Don't see those. Don't let 167 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 1: your kids see them either. But you see, the Fighting 168 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 1: Irish is such a brand that I think it's safe 169 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 1: because it's always about what's the brand value versus what's 170 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 1: the outcry going to be? Same thing with Yale, as 171 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:59,559 Speaker 1: I pointed out before Elihu Yale was a slave trader. 172 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 1: Yale University is named for a person, named for a 173 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 1: person who was enriching himself off of the slave trade. 174 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:12,560 Speaker 1: So you know, in some ways how much worse is 175 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 1: going to be in this. You know, you own slaves, 176 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:17,679 Speaker 1: that's bad, right, But if you're making money by making 177 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:21,560 Speaker 1: sure as many people as possible own slaves, you would 178 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 1: think that would be pretty bad. But people go to 179 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 1: Yale to say they go to Yale. They don't want 180 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:29,560 Speaker 1: to say they go to you know, Southeastern New Haven 181 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:33,200 Speaker 1: College of whatever. They want to say, they go to Yale. 182 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 1: And the fighting Irish is a great nickname, and there's 183 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:38,840 Speaker 1: no reason why anybody should want that to be changed. 184 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:41,200 Speaker 1: As I pointed out that I was always waiting for 185 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 1: the Vikings to come under heat. There's the Vikings did 186 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:46,599 Speaker 1: at a lot of loot and pillage, A lot of 187 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:50,320 Speaker 1: nasty stuff went into Actually the Irish monasteries looted those 188 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 1: bad things going on there. Vikings were not a bunch 189 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:56,560 Speaker 1: of cuddly guys with weird horned helmets on that's also, 190 00:10:56,600 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 1: by the way, a total inacrotism. They never had horned helmets. 191 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 1: That comes from anyway, whole other thing. But you know, 192 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 1: this is something that finally Trump is saying, this is 193 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 1: just crazy town. And whether the team switchback or not, 194 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 1: I'm just glad Clay that someone's calling this out and 195 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 1: saying that it doesn't have to be this way. We 196 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 1: don't have to live our lives walking on eggshells because 197 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:17,680 Speaker 1: miserable libs demand it. 198 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 2: Here's a question for the history nerds out there. I 199 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:24,960 Speaker 2: have an argument that I think is accurate, but it 200 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:29,320 Speaker 2: feels to me like society at large is essentially saying 201 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:33,560 Speaker 2: everything that happened from about twenty fourteen to twenty twenty 202 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 2: two was completely wrong, and we're in the process of 203 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 2: erasing all of it. Whether it's BLM protests, whether it 204 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:45,200 Speaker 2: was the response to COVID, whether it was the changing 205 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:48,840 Speaker 2: of the nicknames, whether it was Leah Thomas winning a 206 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:50,600 Speaker 2: women's swimming championship. 207 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 1: This is the counter revolution. This is the Trump counter 208 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 1: revolution to the Maoist insanity. What is another American analogy 209 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:03,680 Speaker 1: of something like this happening? Because the nineteen sixties is 210 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 1: probably the easiest era going to probably Reaganism. Reaganism as 211 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:14,320 Speaker 1: a response to all the just degrading, an anti American, 212 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:18,080 Speaker 1: nonsensical radicalism of the late sixties and in through the 213 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:22,359 Speaker 1: seventies of Vietnam era. I think Reaganism was the response 214 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:22,719 Speaker 1: to that. 215 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 2: But I would say there was actually some good clearly 216 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:29,040 Speaker 2: that came out of the civil rights movement. Right, it's 217 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 2: good that everybody who's an American citizen should be able 218 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 2: to freely vote and everybody. So what is good that 219 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 2: came out of twenty fourteen to twenty twenty two? That 220 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 2: is a lasting legacy of Usually you have progress and 221 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:48,200 Speaker 2: people say, okay, that progress is good, and then it 222 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 2: goes too far right, the pendulum swings too far, and 223 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 2: you can go from hey, we should have equal rights 224 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 2: in America. Everyone should. That's an aspirational goal, but maybe hey, 225 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 2: you shouldn't defy who gets into a school based on 226 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 2: the color of your skin. That's swinging it too far. 227 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 2: In other words, civil rights, okay, great society? Too much 228 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:15,320 Speaker 2: with with with LBJ. What is the good? This is 229 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 2: what I think is really kind of fascinating about this. 230 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 2: What is something good that happened from fourteen to twenty two, 231 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 2: and i'm the. 232 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 1: Proliferation, the proliferation of police body cams, which is essentially 233 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 1: the end of the anti cop and BLM moves. Oh, 234 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 1: that's a good argument. That's a good argument. So unintentionally 235 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 1: it's unintentional wins. Yeah, but that consequence is real. The 236 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:41,079 Speaker 1: reason you don't see these huge anti cop protest the 237 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:44,760 Speaker 1: way is because the Internet and body camera footage, and 238 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 1: we see, Oh, I'm actually constantly amazed at how reasonable 239 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 1: and even deferential police saw in the face of a 240 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 1: lot of aggression and disrespect. That's what you actually see 241 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:01,679 Speaker 1: when you pay attention to the reality of the video 242 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 1: footage on these body cams. And and the other thing 243 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:08,199 Speaker 1: is that when there's somebody who's when there's a cop 244 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 1: who crosses the line, everyone hates that, including cops. They 245 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 1: don't want bad cops, they don't want cops who are 246 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:15,200 Speaker 1: hurting people when they're not supposed to. So you know, 247 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:17,319 Speaker 1: there's nothing but upside on the body cam. 248 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 2: That's a great it's a great point because BLM basically 249 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 2: is getting has been destroyed because one it led to 250 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 2: way more death everything else. But every time they try 251 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 2: to make a viral incident, if it's almost always you're like, man, 252 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 2: the cops showed a lot of restraint there. Yes, right, 253 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 2: I mean overwhelmingly the person's name goes viral. Social media 254 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 2: is like, by the way, what I would say all 255 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:42,400 Speaker 2: of this is connected to, and this is for future historians. 256 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 2: I think it was everybody went crazy because of social media. 257 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 2: I think that's the lynchpin that undergirds at all I 258 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:51,320 Speaker 2: want to tell you about Preborn. They do incredible work 259 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 2: saving the lives of tiny babies. Clay and I were 260 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 2: just talking last hour about how abortion isn't quite the 261 00:14:56,560 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 2: national political issue that the Democrats we're hoping it would be. Unfortunately, 262 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 2: one of the reasons is that there's so much abortion 263 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:06,360 Speaker 2: that's still happening, especially in these blue states and even 264 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 2: in purple states. There's just high levels of abortion going on. 265 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 2: So how do you save tiny babies in the womb? 266 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:14,160 Speaker 2: How do you bring those precious lives into the world. 267 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 2: Preborn is on. 268 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 1: This mission day in and day out. 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Uh, we 296 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 2: are talking about the impact of Trump's threats on the 297 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 2: Redskins name. I really don't know Buck, how it plays 298 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 2: out politically, because I think the owner of the Redskins 299 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 2: and I'm just gonna keep calling them the Redskins because 300 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 2: I think a lot of you still do. And I 301 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 2: hate having to change mascot names because I'm used to 302 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 2: calling them one thing for years. I think the owner 303 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 2: is waiting to see what the political blowback is. In 304 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:10,160 Speaker 2: other words, how does the marketplace actually react. He's letting 305 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:12,960 Speaker 2: Trump take the fire, but I think most people are 306 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 2: in favor of this, and look, the sports media would 307 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:20,360 Speaker 2: not be. But I think the power of the sports 308 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 2: media as a whole has collapsed because a lot of 309 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:27,199 Speaker 2: people are just like these guys are basically CNN, MSNBC stooges. 310 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 2: And I do think it's going to be intriguing to 311 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 2: see how that how that situation continues to develop. We'll 312 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:39,680 Speaker 2: talk about that a bit more also the continued fallout. 313 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:42,160 Speaker 2: We got some more Hunter Biden clips that are pretty 314 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:45,160 Speaker 2: crazy that we will play for you, including him saying 315 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:48,199 Speaker 2: Buck that one reason his dad didn't perform well at 316 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:51,440 Speaker 2: the June twenty seventh debate was because he was on ambient. 317 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 1: Interesting. 318 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:56,119 Speaker 2: I remember we talked about did they keep the drugs 319 00:17:56,119 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 2: from him? They needed to shoot him up with some energy. 320 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 2: There's only so much you can do to make your 321 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:03,920 Speaker 2: neighborhood safe. 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That's sab radio dot com, saberradio dot com. 337 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 2: Check it out today. 338 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:57,680 Speaker 1: All right, welcome back into Clay and but let's talk 339 00:18:57,680 --> 00:19:00,919 Speaker 1: about the latest on Russia, Gates, Rush collusion, all that 340 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 1: stuff for a second, cause there's some new news on 341 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 1: this one. As we know, d and I Gabbard, whom 342 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:09,919 Speaker 1: I had a long conversation with when Clay and I 343 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 1: were in d C. Clay was supposed to be part 344 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:15,240 Speaker 1: of that conversation, but he showed up in his timey 345 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:17,959 Speaker 1: bahamas and his flip flops to the White House and 346 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 1: they said, excuse me, sir, excuse me, No, just kidding. 347 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:24,639 Speaker 1: He didn't have his passport, which I remember. I just 348 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:26,720 Speaker 1: so you know, I'm not like the guy who leaves 349 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:29,680 Speaker 1: his buddies behind in line at the nightclub. I actually 350 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 1: asked the Director of National Intelligence, I said, can we 351 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:35,560 Speaker 1: go get Clay. He doesn't have his passport, but you 352 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:37,359 Speaker 1: can just wave him in, right And she was like, 353 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 1: they won't let me in without my passport, And I alway said, okay. 354 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:43,960 Speaker 2: Well, in that case, you added, I didn't have real ID, 355 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 2: and then I didn't have my passport with me, and 356 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:48,399 Speaker 2: you had to have one or the other to be 357 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:50,879 Speaker 2: able to get in, not just my regular driver's license. 358 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, she said, these rules do not get waived. Sorry, 359 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 1: you know, we love Clay, but he can come back 360 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:58,480 Speaker 1: tomorrow or next time. So but I long talk with 361 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:01,240 Speaker 1: Tulci what we talked about the record, But I asked her, 362 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 1: I said, can I say that we hung out and 363 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:05,960 Speaker 1: talked for a while about, you know, what's going on 364 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 1: in the country. So Tulsi has has a mandate within 365 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:14,680 Speaker 1: the director, within the intelligence community of cleaning up the mess. 366 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:19,000 Speaker 1: It is still a and I can put it this way. 367 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:23,160 Speaker 1: The brand, the the brand perception of the intelligence community 368 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 1: went from post nine to eleven. Yeah, of course, huge failure. 369 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 1: We get hit on nine to eleven. So there's that, 370 00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:32,119 Speaker 1: there's that reality. But then there was a surge of people, 371 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:35,879 Speaker 1: including a lot of UH former military, including a lot 372 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:39,720 Speaker 1: of elite military unit special operators who were working hand 373 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:42,920 Speaker 1: in glove with the intelligence community to find these guys. Right, 374 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:46,160 Speaker 1: I mean it's CIA Seal Team six, CIA Delta Force. 375 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:49,640 Speaker 1: I mean these units or you know these entities were 376 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:55,119 Speaker 1: symbiotic overseas doing incredibly important work in the what I 377 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 1: still believe we should just call the war on Terror. 378 00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 1: We don't have a better name for it. The g 379 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:00,959 Speaker 1: WATT and many of you serve in the GWATT, and 380 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 1: I thank you for your service, and I think that that, 381 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 1: unfortunately has gotten a little bit lost in the shuffle 382 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 1: lately people. I feel like our GWATT veterans, people, a 383 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:13,959 Speaker 1: lot of people in this country are moving on beyond 384 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:16,159 Speaker 1: what happened there. We should remember what they did and 385 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:20,919 Speaker 1: the sacrifices that they made. But I think Clay, the 386 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 1: intelligence community, because of the Obama years and the weaponization 387 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:29,679 Speaker 1: of it against Trump specifically, has now become a broadly 388 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:33,520 Speaker 1: distrusted entity. The point where I was only there for 389 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:36,400 Speaker 1: GWATT years. I see, you know, I'll appear in some 390 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:38,879 Speaker 1: show or something. I'll be on Fox, or one of 391 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:41,200 Speaker 1: our clips will go somewhere. People will say, you can't 392 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:44,200 Speaker 1: trust this guy. He was CIA. I'm like, I remember 393 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 1: when I was in CIA and we're trying to stop 394 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:48,199 Speaker 1: in Laden from blowing up the next plane. And that 395 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:51,359 Speaker 1: was a real thing. Okay, So I don't know, but 396 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:54,280 Speaker 1: this is what happened. The people who ran the place 397 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 1: decided that they were above the law and they were 398 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:05,439 Speaker 1: in a position to change election outcomes. Really, and I 399 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:08,600 Speaker 1: think that it should be remembered. And I give I 400 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:11,080 Speaker 1: give my friend Ben Dominicic, who's a Fox guy, I 401 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 1: give him credit for this for pointing us out on 402 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:15,879 Speaker 1: Twitter ofver the weekend, somebody said, I don't know who 403 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:20,439 Speaker 1: it was. You know, they tried to use this Russia 404 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 1: collusion thing to take Trump down, and Ben wrote, they 405 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:28,359 Speaker 1: almost succeeded. I think people forget that now we see 406 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:31,560 Speaker 1: this in retrospect, because that's absolutely correct. They almost this 407 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 1: almost worked. They almost use this trap completely successfully to 408 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:42,719 Speaker 1: destroy the Trump administration, destroy Trump and his family. So 409 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 1: Tulci Gabbert is now demanding that that Cash Betel and 410 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:52,200 Speaker 1: Pam Bondi investigate Obama era DOJ officials. She says, it's 411 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 1: their responsibility, or rather they are responsible. Well, both both 412 00:22:57,560 --> 00:23:01,639 Speaker 1: Pam and Cash have this response ability and these people 413 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 1: from the Obama years are responsible. So here we go. 414 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:09,479 Speaker 1: Here is this has caught fourteen team, And here's Tulsey 415 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 1: laying out what she sees now with access to it 416 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 1: all as the Director of National intelligence play. 417 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:19,080 Speaker 4: It creating this piece of manufactured intelligence that claims that 418 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 4: Russia had helped Donald Trump get elected, contradicted every other 419 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 4: assessment that had been made previously in the months leading 420 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:28,119 Speaker 4: up to the election that said exactly the opposite, that 421 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:31,399 Speaker 4: Russia neither had neither the intent nor the capability to 422 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:34,600 Speaker 4: try to quote unquote hack the United States election for 423 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:37,920 Speaker 4: the presidency of the United States. So the effect of 424 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 4: what President Obama and his senior national security team did 425 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:46,520 Speaker 4: was subvert the will of the American people, undermining our 426 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:51,080 Speaker 4: democratic republic, and enacting what would be essentially a year's 427 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 4: long coup against President Trump, who was duly elected by 428 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:56,600 Speaker 4: the American people. 429 00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:02,879 Speaker 2: Okay, so I think I speak for average American out there, 430 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:07,440 Speaker 2: is anybody ever going to get arrested or charged for 431 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:12,000 Speaker 2: any of this because otherwise, yes, everything that Tulsea just 432 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 2: said there I believe is true. I think all of 433 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:18,639 Speaker 2: the evidence out there is that the whole Russia collusion 434 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:22,480 Speaker 2: lie was manufactured. I think if you just look at 435 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:26,800 Speaker 2: basically what went on. They wandered this story through the 436 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:29,480 Speaker 2: New York Times, in the Washington Post, which gave all 437 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:33,720 Speaker 2: of the reporters who wrote it Pulitzers for fundamentally untrue 438 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 2: stories that were designed to destroy Trump's ability to be 439 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 2: President of the. 440 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 1: United States for his first term. All of that, I 441 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:40,919 Speaker 1: think is one hundred per century. 442 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 2: I think that this is why there's so much blowback 443 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:48,640 Speaker 2: on the Epstein front. I think many people out there 444 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:51,640 Speaker 2: look at this and say, I've heard it all before. 445 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:57,680 Speaker 2: Nobody ever pays Democrats indict Republicans like crazy purp walk 446 00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:01,240 Speaker 2: them everywhere, bankrupt them, sit them down, make them get 447 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 2: their photos taken. 448 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:04,600 Speaker 1: Whether you're the President. 449 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:06,520 Speaker 2: Of the United States, all the way down to a 450 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:09,280 Speaker 2: grandma who walked into the Capitol on jan six and 451 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:13,199 Speaker 2: was using alfie selfie stick to take pictures, those people 452 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 2: are all held accountable. They throw the entire book at them, 453 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 2: Democrats unless they decide somebody is not useful, like Robert Menendez, right, 454 00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:23,639 Speaker 2: and they just toss him to the side, and then 455 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 2: they got a new senator who they bring in instead. Basically, 456 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 2: no Democrat ever suffers any consequences, no matter what crimes 457 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 2: they break. 458 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 1: Is anything going to happen from this? No? Yeah. See, 459 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:40,480 Speaker 1: that's where I think people get so frustrated, sorry to say, 460 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:43,240 Speaker 1: and I think that that's people I know want they 461 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:47,720 Speaker 1: want that to be untrue what I said, and maybe 462 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:50,720 Speaker 1: maybe it will be. But here's the here's the first 463 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:56,119 Speaker 1: thing that I would say, Okay, the only statute that 464 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:59,959 Speaker 1: I can think of, like things like I don't even 465 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 1: know if there is a federal statute for official misuse 466 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:04,960 Speaker 1: of position. That was something that I know there is 467 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 1: actually because when I was CIA, we had that right 468 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 1: like if you if you were if you claimed and 469 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:14,280 Speaker 1: you used like your CIA identification to get out of 470 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 1: like a speeding you know, there were things where you 471 00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:18,200 Speaker 1: couldn't just say, like I'm CIA on a COVID, like 472 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:21,160 Speaker 1: you can't stop officially and you get fired. I mean obviously, 473 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:25,560 Speaker 1: so official misuse of position, but that's not a huge thing, 474 00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:28,160 Speaker 1: meaning you're not gonna go to prison for a long 475 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 1: time for that. I'm not gonna go to prison at all. Conspiracy. 476 00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:34,480 Speaker 1: Here's the thing about conspiracy, because I think there is 477 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 1: an there you could go for conspiracy charges here statutes 478 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 1: five years, statutes five years. 479 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:44,640 Speaker 2: So what about leaking? What about leaking top secret information 480 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:45,679 Speaker 2: to the press? 481 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 1: Statute is I think ten on that. 482 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:52,200 Speaker 2: So you're still a little bit potentially it's getting close. 483 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:55,640 Speaker 2: Depends still potentially be under that depend track down how 484 00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:56,640 Speaker 2: the leaking happened. 485 00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 1: Those are but again those are very difficult cases approve it. Yeah, 486 00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:02,960 Speaker 1: I think the statute on those as ten years so. 487 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:05,320 Speaker 1: But so this is what I just want to break 488 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:08,160 Speaker 1: this down for everybody. What you know, Trump is saying 489 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:14,359 Speaker 1: that they should be prosecuted, Okay, should be sure, should 490 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:18,879 Speaker 1: have been definitely, How can they be under the system 491 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:22,320 Speaker 1: that we have. I don't see it. And now people 492 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:27,240 Speaker 1: I know, I understand, I'm going to get immediately with this. Treason. 493 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:31,639 Speaker 1: Treason has a specific federal definition. Treason is not just 494 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:34,480 Speaker 1: betraying your country in a general Now it's used that 495 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 1: way in conversation, but there is a specific federal statutory 496 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 1: explanation of the charge of treason, and I don't think 497 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:47,760 Speaker 1: you'll be able to get anywhere near that with these 498 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:54,760 Speaker 1: with essentially a plot cooked up inside the intelligence community, 499 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:58,600 Speaker 1: with the Obama administration running point on it, using the 500 00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 1: media to launder it, and then putting it out there, 501 00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:05,360 Speaker 1: and then using the Justice Department to try to undermine 502 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:08,600 Speaker 1: from the inside the Trump administration. I just I don't 503 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:12,360 Speaker 1: see what the statue would and please so don't write 504 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:15,879 Speaker 1: in and tell me or Clay. They betrayed. Yeah, I know, 505 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:19,560 Speaker 1: they betrayed the country. I Trump used to retweet me 506 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:21,480 Speaker 1: on this stuff all the time because I knew that 507 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:23,479 Speaker 1: they were lying about what's going on, the intelligence community. 508 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:25,400 Speaker 1: They were lying about their use offis and their life. 509 00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:28,919 Speaker 1: We know all of that. Here, what are you going 510 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:32,400 Speaker 1: to get them on? Now? What is the charge going 511 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:35,800 Speaker 1: to be? What is the federal criminal indictment going to 512 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 1: be against comy again? You know, you know, name the 513 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:41,880 Speaker 1: people involved? What is it? Tell me what it is 514 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:45,560 Speaker 1: and if it sounds reasonable, great, you know, then then 515 00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:48,000 Speaker 1: we'll have an answer. But I don't see it, and 516 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 1: I wish that wasn't the case. But I'm just telling 517 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:52,640 Speaker 1: everybody what I know. 518 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:56,480 Speaker 2: I think it would have to be leaking the documents 519 00:28:56,520 --> 00:29:00,120 Speaker 2: to start the whole process. And that means you go 520 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,360 Speaker 2: after reporters. That means you go after the New York Times. 521 00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:05,040 Speaker 1: That means you go super complix, super complicated to do that, 522 00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:08,160 Speaker 1: by the way, and those all kinds of problems. Those 523 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:11,480 Speaker 1: reporters will all scream, hey, we're you know, we support 524 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:14,840 Speaker 1: the First Amendment, like we're being attacked by the federal government. 525 00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:19,960 Speaker 1: Sometimes they'll go to prison to avoid avoid revealing sources. 526 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 1: This is where I can remind you people always say 527 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:28,680 Speaker 1: no way, Clay. The Obama administration use the Espionage Act, 528 00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:32,960 Speaker 1: not just more than any presidents before him, he used 529 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:38,800 Speaker 1: it more than every presidency before him combined. Yeah, think 530 00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:39,320 Speaker 1: about that. 531 00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:44,280 Speaker 2: I just look at this and say, it's particularly nasty 532 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:50,280 Speaker 2: because you're leaking classified documents which may not accurately reflect 533 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:55,600 Speaker 2: overall consensus view, and the reporters who report on it 534 00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:59,320 Speaker 2: don't have access to all the countervailing opinions that might 535 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:01,840 Speaker 2: be inside of it agency, and they take it at 536 00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:05,920 Speaker 2: face value. And then because it was anti Trump, they 537 00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:09,000 Speaker 2: gave them all Pulitzer prizes. Remember, I don't think the 538 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:12,360 Speaker 2: Poetser has rescinded any of these reports any of these awards. 539 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:15,880 Speaker 2: And they treated them as if they were heroes when 540 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:22,280 Speaker 2: all they were doing was laundering inaccurate information designed to 541 00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:24,000 Speaker 2: destroy the Trump administration. 542 00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:25,600 Speaker 1: It's actually. 543 00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:31,000 Speaker 2: Nasty on a level that I am still incredibly frustrated 544 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:34,960 Speaker 2: about it. I think it ultimately destroyed the legitimacy of 545 00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:39,680 Speaker 2: much of the of much of the reporting universe. And 546 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:42,880 Speaker 2: unless you get them for leaking classified documents, I think, 547 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:46,680 Speaker 2: unfortunately this is just another case where we know many 548 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:50,120 Speaker 2: crimes were committed and there are no consequences for them. 549 00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:51,800 Speaker 2: And I think a lot of people throw up their 550 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:58,360 Speaker 2: hands and say, there is no law that holds Democrats accountable. Meanwhile, 551 00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:01,160 Speaker 2: whether your President Trump all the way down to like 552 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:04,360 Speaker 2: I said, a grandma walking into the Capitol on January sixth, 553 00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:08,640 Speaker 2: you get the book thrown at you. And meanwhile Republicans 554 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:12,840 Speaker 2: do nothing by and large to Democrats in exchange. 555 00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:15,320 Speaker 1: Right, Well, this is where you get into so now 556 00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:18,840 Speaker 1: because because again I feel exactly where you are on this, 557 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:23,400 Speaker 1: there's this frustration we are side always gets the book 558 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:25,520 Speaker 1: thrown out them, even for and they always get away 559 00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:28,400 Speaker 1: with it. Well, here's what they did. Remember the Supreme 560 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:33,400 Speaker 1: Court had to weigh in on this. They treated obstruction 561 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:37,000 Speaker 1: as an official proceeding. I mean, they expanded this definition 562 00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:40,280 Speaker 1: of obstruction of an official proceeding. It is really meant 563 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:42,680 Speaker 1: to prevent people from destroying all the evidence in a 564 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:46,840 Speaker 1: federal criminal investigation. And they use this to go after 565 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:51,800 Speaker 1: j six people. So what they do is really unconstitutionally 566 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:55,480 Speaker 1: expand a statute to go after their political enemies and 567 00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:59,640 Speaker 1: ruin their lives. We could do that too, I mean, 568 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,120 Speaker 1: but that's what it would require, is what I'm saying. 569 00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:05,360 Speaker 1: If you're telling me we're gonna use a real statute 570 00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:08,880 Speaker 1: in good faith and approach it in this way, I 571 00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:13,480 Speaker 1: don't see how you're gonna get not only Comey sent 572 00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:15,360 Speaker 1: to prison or anything like that. I don't even think 573 00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:17,280 Speaker 1: he's gonna I don't even think I could bring a charge. 574 00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:19,720 Speaker 1: I don't know what the charge is unless you want 575 00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:22,040 Speaker 1: to just shoehorn something into it. Maybe some of you do, 576 00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:23,920 Speaker 1: but that's I think what this would require. 577 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:24,960 Speaker 3: Yeah. 578 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:28,080 Speaker 2: Look, and the Statute of Limitations factors in here in 579 00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:30,520 Speaker 2: a big way. And I get why all of you 580 00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:33,240 Speaker 2: are frustrated, because I feel like all these things are 581 00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:36,320 Speaker 2: basically proven and then there are no consequences for them, 582 00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:39,320 Speaker 2: and so everybody just throws up their hands and says, 583 00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:42,640 Speaker 2: here we go again. Yes they did something illegal, No, 584 00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:43,840 Speaker 2: nothing happens to them. 585 00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:47,440 Speaker 1: Yeah. Look, you're an informed individual. You know how hard 586 00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:49,840 Speaker 1: President Trump is working to get our economy to the 587 00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:52,160 Speaker 1: place that is right now and beyond. We're just seeing 588 00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:55,360 Speaker 1: the early stages of this. But that's something that you 589 00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:57,600 Speaker 1: can't take for granted. And you can't just think, oh, 590 00:32:57,640 --> 00:32:59,400 Speaker 1: he's got this covered for me. You have to take 591 00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:03,719 Speaker 1: action for you. Inflation is still going to be a 592 00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:06,480 Speaker 1: challenge in this country because the thirty seven trillion dollars 593 00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:09,160 Speaker 1: of debts not going away. There's going to be money printing. 594 00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:11,320 Speaker 1: It's just a question of how much. So how can 595 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:16,200 Speaker 1: you diversify and protect a portion of your savings. Gold 596 00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:19,200 Speaker 1: Gold is an appreciating asset of forty percent in the 597 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:22,040 Speaker 1: last year, and central banks continue to add to their 598 00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:25,400 Speaker 1: gold reserves. 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Text the word Buck to ninety eight ninety 609 00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:56,120 Speaker 1: eight ninety eight. 610 00:33:57,080 --> 00:34:01,520 Speaker 3: Two guys walk up to a mic eight anything goes 611 00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:06,240 Speaker 3: Clay Travis and Buck Sexton find them on the free 612 00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:09,640 Speaker 3: iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. 613 00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:13,239 Speaker 2: Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all 614 00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:16,600 Speaker 2: of you hanging out with us next hour. By the way, 615 00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:18,239 Speaker 2: You've got a couple of different things that I think 616 00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:22,960 Speaker 2: are we're talking about more. The Stephen Colbert cancellation has 617 00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:27,960 Speaker 2: led to abject fury on the left. I do think 618 00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:30,440 Speaker 2: that basic business is interesting there, and I think it 619 00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:33,960 Speaker 2: also ties in with the WNBA players coming out with 620 00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:36,799 Speaker 2: the pay us what you Owe us t shirts over 621 00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:37,320 Speaker 2: the weekend. 622 00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:40,520 Speaker 1: If you didn't see that. I think both of. 623 00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:43,360 Speaker 2: Them are kind of emblematic of a lack of understanding 624 00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:48,000 Speaker 2: of basic economics, which unfortunately characterizes the entire left in 625 00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:50,640 Speaker 2: this country on a day to day basis. I did 626 00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:53,600 Speaker 2: buck want to give a positive movie review because I 627 00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:56,720 Speaker 2: know we talked about Superman. I still have not seen Superman. 628 00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:59,320 Speaker 2: Imagine many of you have because it's one of the 629 00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:01,840 Speaker 2: biggest movies the summer. But I did go see another 630 00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:04,640 Speaker 2: big movie of the summer. And I am not a 631 00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:09,959 Speaker 2: crazy knowledgeable F one racing expert, so please, I'm sure 632 00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:12,000 Speaker 2: many of you out there that love F one are 633 00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:13,959 Speaker 2: going to tell me the things you didn't like about 634 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:17,359 Speaker 2: the realism associated with the movie. I thought F one 635 00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:25,320 Speaker 2: was really good. Brad Pitt, fun, engaging, no political agenda 636 00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:28,080 Speaker 2: other than hey, let's just try to make a fun movie. 637 00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:31,680 Speaker 2: Had elements of Days of Thunder, elements of the Top 638 00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:36,160 Speaker 2: Gun Maverick movie, Older race Car Driver, Younger race Car Dynamic. 639 00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:41,320 Speaker 2: And it was super cool, well done, enjoyable summer movie 640 00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:44,400 Speaker 2: if you need enjoyable summer movie reviews. 641 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:46,759 Speaker 1: My brother saw it too. You see it Friday, I 642 00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:50,120 Speaker 1: think you guys this Saturday. Yes, he saw it this weekend. 643 00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:52,279 Speaker 1: He agreed with you. He thought it was good and 644 00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:54,600 Speaker 1: he said that you would like the movie. And I said, great, 645 00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:57,080 Speaker 1: I will watch it at home where I do not 646 00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:59,800 Speaker 1: have to be around other human beings because they always 647 00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:03,760 Speaker 1: in the movie by talking and being on their phones 648 00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:07,080 Speaker 1: and doing annoying rude things. So and he said, ah, yes, 649 00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:09,520 Speaker 1: I forgot that. I was talking to the grumpiest forty 650 00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:12,000 Speaker 1: three year old ever. But I at least told you 651 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,040 Speaker 1: it's a good movie. You'll appreciate this. 652 00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:17,279 Speaker 2: So they had all the movie previews running beforehand, and 653 00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:19,759 Speaker 2: some of them were like The Conjuring, which is one 654 00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:22,640 Speaker 2: of the scariest movies ever but then they also show 655 00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:25,000 Speaker 2: Downton Abbey Downton and I turned to my wife and 656 00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:27,879 Speaker 2: I'm rounding down Downton Abbey. I was like, why would 657 00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:30,640 Speaker 2: they be advertising that. She said, Oh, every woman in 658 00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:35,560 Speaker 2: here loves Brad Pitt and uh, and that's why they're 659 00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:35,960 Speaker 2: showing this. 660 00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:38,320 Speaker 1: And I said, oh, that's interesting. So I said, Brad 661 00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:40,200 Speaker 1: Pitt's a little bit like me. 662 00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:44,560 Speaker 2: Men want to be him and women love him, and 663 00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:48,160 Speaker 2: my wife just laughed. I actually she did not have 664 00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:50,640 Speaker 2: a lot of respect for my Brad Pitt analogy