1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:03,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, so, Patty Steele is here the smartest woman I know. 2 00:00:03,960 --> 00:00:06,039 Speaker 1: Do we know where the term dildo came from. 3 00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:09,200 Speaker 2: The exception of the other women in this room, I. 4 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 1: Accuse you of being the smartest. I'm hoping you will 5 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 1: answer the question. Yes, we google, we can't find. 6 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 2: That's exactly what I'm doing. 7 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:17,320 Speaker 1: But never mind, we'll get into something else. 8 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:19,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, some guy named Joe Dildo. 9 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 1: Joseph weird thing thinking Donnie Dildo or Donny Derek. 10 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:32,520 Speaker 2: Those names don't sound as Joe Dildo sounds okay, Donnie 11 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 2: Derek Donny sounds CD. 12 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:37,600 Speaker 1: Patty and I have been really good friends since nineteen 13 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 1: eighty at the end of the dy Yes, and uh, Patty, 14 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 1: of course and I work together here on Z one 15 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 1: hundred for many years. And I always knew that Patty 16 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 1: had this love and passion for all things history. 17 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:52,240 Speaker 2: Yes I do. 18 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 1: And now your podcast, Yes. 19 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 2: It's been doing great. Actually going to add and I 20 00:00:57,400 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 2: don't know if you know this, I should tell you 21 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 2: since it's your platform, what adding a third episode probably 22 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 2: next at the beginning of next month. Really yeah, yeah, well, hey, 23 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:12,680 Speaker 2: you know there's a demand for eight minute history stories. 24 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 1: It's incredible. It's awesome, But once you get her started, 25 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 1: it's kind of hard to get her stopping, okay, because 26 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:21,120 Speaker 1: she just loves history. For instance, I mean, we all 27 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:24,199 Speaker 1: know about the night that President Lincoln and Mary Todd 28 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 1: Lincoln went to the theater to watch a play and then 29 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 1: he was shot and he passed away. But Patty's question is, well, 30 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:34,120 Speaker 1: do you know who else was in the box with 31 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:37,760 Speaker 1: The Lincolns never even cared there was anyone else in 32 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 1: the box, but it turned into a great story. 33 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:40,320 Speaker 3: Who was it? 34 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 1: Just in a nutshell who was in the. 35 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:44,480 Speaker 2: Box with him? It was Henry and Clara, who were 36 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 2: engaged at the time, even though they were step brother 37 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 2: and sister, And yeah, it didn't go well for them 38 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 2: after that. 39 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 1: They didn't like Mary Todd at all though well. 40 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 2: She liked Mary Todd, which is why they managed to 41 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 2: get an invite into the box because she was one 42 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 2: of the few people that did. 43 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:03,560 Speaker 1: No one liked Mary Todd Lincoln. 44 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, she seems like a pill, a raging bitch. Just 45 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 2: it's a good word for woman. She had some issues. 46 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:13,960 Speaker 4: She lost, couple of our kids died, Yeah, depression back then, 47 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 4: she had some other issues. 48 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 1: Stop defending Mary. 49 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 5: To say back then they didn't have you didn't go 50 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 5: to a therapist when things happened, you know, right, And 51 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:25,080 Speaker 5: she was a really smart woman without any outlet for 52 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:28,640 Speaker 5: that other than to you know, protect her husband and 53 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 5: and you know, try to push him into doing what 54 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 5: he eventually did. 55 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 1: Which President Lincoln gay or bisexual? 56 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 2: You know, there's a lot of people that talk about that, 57 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 2: and there's certainly many books that have been written on it. 58 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:41,679 Speaker 1: Did he share his bed with some guy? 59 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:44,080 Speaker 2: For some years? People did? In those days, you would, 60 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 2: you would. 61 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 1: Try, you did. 62 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 2: That's a whole different story. 63 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, that's right. We noticed for many. 64 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:53,839 Speaker 2: Years, as you know too much. 65 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 1: You know, you don't have a kidding anyway, go ahead. 66 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:56,520 Speaker 1: People did cheer beds. 67 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 2: It's oh sure, like you would travel and because they're 68 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 2: you know, there wasn't a million hotels around, you would 69 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:05,640 Speaker 2: check into a little inn and they would say, yeah, 70 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:08,360 Speaker 2: there's space in this bed. You would sleep with people 71 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 2: you didn't even know. Oh wow, god knows I have beds. 72 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:16,519 Speaker 1: Why did I live back then? 73 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 2: Oh my god, I thought he was a vampire lady. 74 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 6: Sorry, yeah it was vampire hunter. 75 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, yah, vampire hunter. 76 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 1: Well I tell you what let's talk about, uh, you know, 77 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:30,639 Speaker 1: something a little more serious. Let's talk about the significance 78 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 1: of this day. Yeah, and we were talking about how 79 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 1: it was twenty three years ago today that we were 80 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 1: all together doing the morning show, and it was the 81 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 1: weather was identical to the forecast. 82 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 2: We have today, beautiful September day. 83 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 1: In New York City. Yeah, And the day started out 84 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 1: like another typical you know, us talking about things that 85 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 1: really didn't matter. 86 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 2: And by the time you get to you know, the 87 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 2: time that all of this began, which was eight forty six, 88 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 2: was the first plane hitting you. You know how that 89 00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 2: goes with morning shows. You're kind of gearing down, everybody's 90 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 2: getting ready to head out. And and I was alone 91 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 2: in the studio where I was working, which was w PLJ, 92 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 2: which doesn't exist anymore, and and this guy called and 93 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:16,160 Speaker 2: he said, I think a missile just hit the World Trade. 94 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 1: Center and night God helicopter. 95 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:21,359 Speaker 2: And I said, okay, and I said, let me check. 96 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 2: And I went into the ABC newsroom WABC newsroom, and 97 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:27,359 Speaker 2: I said, you know, I just got this call, and 98 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 2: they went nah. And literally at that moment, everything all 99 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 2: the phones started ringing. And so then they called and 100 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 2: you know, of course, it all began to unfold, and 101 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 2: we wound up staying on the air till nine o'clock 102 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 2: that night. I couldn't get home. I had little, tiny, tiny, 103 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 2: tiny children, and I kept looking at the Hudson River 104 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:50,360 Speaker 2: and thinking, if I have to, I'll swim because I 105 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 2: wanted to get to my kids. I can't. It's so amazing, 106 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 2: all these years later, you still feel that emotion of 107 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 2: what you felt. And I was standing there and I 108 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 2: knew that Penn Station was below us, and the Empire 109 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:08,160 Speaker 2: State Building a block away, and you just don't know 110 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 2: what's going to happen next. And I remember trying to 111 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:14,920 Speaker 2: feel if there was any vibration in the floor while 112 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:18,920 Speaker 2: we were standing there in those few especially that first 113 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 2: couple of hours before we knew whether there was going 114 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:25,920 Speaker 2: to be more, you know, and we had people calling. 115 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 2: There was a woman who called from the tower that 116 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:33,679 Speaker 2: hadn't been hit yet, and she said, and she said 117 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:36,279 Speaker 2: to us, she said, people are going crazy over there. 118 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:38,599 Speaker 2: She said, I just saw somebody throw a computer through 119 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:41,839 Speaker 2: a window. And she said, they need to calm down. 120 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:42,719 Speaker 2: It's going to be fine. 121 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:43,720 Speaker 1: She didn't know what was going on. 122 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 2: She didn't and she was way up in the other tower, right. 123 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, So we were in Jersey City watching the 124 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 1: whole thing. Our studios were built on the Hudson River 125 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:56,720 Speaker 1: to showcase the World Trade Center. That was the center 126 00:05:56,920 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 1: of our. 127 00:05:57,800 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 2: So you had like a television. 128 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was world It was wild, and you know, 129 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 1: we didn't we was first reported it was a helicopter, 130 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 1: then it was a small plane, then we reported it 131 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 1: was a passenger plane. And then by the time we're 132 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 1: putting all that together, the second plane hit the other tower, 133 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:16,920 Speaker 1: and that's when it all became what it became. 134 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:19,720 Speaker 2: And didn't you feel like, what are we watching? 135 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 1: Well, you don't know, because it you process it. Well, 136 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:24,480 Speaker 1: if it's happening right in front of you, you feel 137 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:26,480 Speaker 1: like you're watching a movie. You know, it doesn't seem 138 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 1: real because who would want to do that? Why would 139 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 1: two pilots make the same mistake in the same day. Oh, 140 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 1: then we quickly figured it out. 141 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 4: It made me feel more like a movie. When I 142 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 4: was driving home and the first tower fell, and we 143 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:44,159 Speaker 4: all stopped our cars and got out of our cars 144 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 4: and turned around, and everyone looked at each other like, no. 145 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:49,480 Speaker 2: What are we feel? How is this possible? Right? 146 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:52,280 Speaker 1: And it was just right. I saw the second tower 147 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:54,599 Speaker 1: fault in my rear view mirror as I was driving 148 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 1: away from Jersey City, Gandhi, where were you? I was 149 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:00,279 Speaker 1: in school, you were This is twenty three years ago, 150 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 1: so you were only how old were you? 151 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:05,279 Speaker 6: I would have been sixteen fifteen. 152 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 1: So you were old enough to understand what was going on? 153 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 1: Sort of? 154 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 2: I'm like, kind of. 155 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 6: I mean, I remember we walked into class and then 156 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 6: we saw our teacher had it on the TV and 157 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 6: we saw what was going on, and you couldn't tell 158 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 6: how big a plane had hit from just. 159 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 2: The view that we were right, So everybody. 160 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 6: Was kind of thinking, oh, this is a mistake. A 161 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 6: little prop plane ran into it. And my teacher I 162 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 6: remember him saying, no, you guys don't understand the size 163 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 6: of the plane that hit that building. That is a 164 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 6: massive building. A giant plane hit it. We saw the 165 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 6: second plane hit, and my teacher said, the world will 166 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 6: never be the same. 167 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 2: He was right, wow, really right? 168 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 1: What telling you? What city in South Florida? Right? 169 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 6: Yees again? 170 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 3: High school? 171 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 2: Easy? 172 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 1: Wow? So you know I'm getting the goosebumps. Yeah, I know, 173 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 1: And look what's happened. I was telling them. I was 174 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 1: walking around the city yesterday. It was a beautiful day 175 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 1: and I was noticing it in you know, the Hudson 176 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 1: Yards area, this and that. How the shape of the 177 00:07:57,360 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 1: city has so changed since that three years ago. We 178 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 1: lost those two huge towers along with all that life, right, 179 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 1: and then this one tower is erected, and then you 180 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 1: see other towers. The people who left us that day 181 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 1: may not recognize the city that we live in now, 182 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 1: because New York City is always always changing. 183 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 2: Oh well, you know, it's funny. I was just looking 184 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 2: on one of my many history sites. I got this 185 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 2: this thing that showed me a picture of this beautiful 186 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 2: old farmhouse sitting on a hill, and it said in 187 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 2: eighteen seventy nine, this was at the corner of Broadway 188 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 2: in eighty fourth Street. Wow, and you see this, You 189 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 2: see this old and it's it's like you're out in 190 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 2: the countryside and it's a farmhouse on a hill. And 191 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 2: that's not I mean, you think, okay, eighteen seventy long ago, 192 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 2: that long ago. No, you know, it's really it's really 193 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 2: pretty wild. 194 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 1: So as far as history goes, and I know I 195 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 1: know that you want to I'm looking at the clock. 196 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:57,319 Speaker 1: We were going to have to take a hard break 197 00:08:57,360 --> 00:08:59,440 Speaker 1: in like three minutes. But we but we'll come back 198 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:00,840 Speaker 1: and do our own one of silence and we can 199 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 1: continue this conversation. Yeah, I know you're in a hurry 200 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 1: of lots to go on. 201 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 2: No, no, no, I'm I'm good. I'm I'm looking at 202 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:09,319 Speaker 2: every time someone walks in my house. 203 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 7: At my house, it rings. I heard those little too. 204 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:15,200 Speaker 7: But as far as history goes, I know, I know 205 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 7: that you sniff out all sorts of things that we 206 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 7: have no clue about. Yeah, give me a short something. 207 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 2: Oh, there's a million of them. I actually have a 208 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 2: podcast running right now that's really kind of fun. And 209 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:33,439 Speaker 2: I did it because I wanted to not be too serious. 210 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 2: I didn't expect it to run today, but it did. 211 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 2: But it's about how teachers back in the eighteen hundreds, 212 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:42,959 Speaker 2: things that were expected of teachers. And I'm looking at 213 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 2: this list, and these were posted in schoolhouses. They were 214 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 2: not allowed to dry dye their hair, they weren't allowed 215 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 2: to loiter at ice cream shops. What they weren't allowed 216 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 2: male teachers. They said that if you get a shave 217 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:00,959 Speaker 2: at a barber shop, people will quest and your morals 218 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 2: and your honesty. Who knew that you couldn't go to 219 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 2: a barbershop or an ice cream store. 220 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:07,840 Speaker 1: Well, ice cream stores back then were places where people dated. 221 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 1: That was a romantic spot in town. You I didn't 222 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 1: realize the fact I was alive then I should know. 223 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 1: And women weren't allowed to get married. 224 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:20,080 Speaker 2: They weren't. They were teachers and they do anything else 225 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:23,199 Speaker 2: with men. So there was a lot of restrictions. And 226 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 2: it's really interesting because you look at what goes on 227 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:29,320 Speaker 2: in schools today, it's a different scene. It is, you know, 228 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 2: God blessed teacher, a lot different. 229 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 1: What about New York City? Here we are in the 230 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 1: middle of this incredible vibrating thing, right you know a 231 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:45,560 Speaker 1: lot about the history of New York City. 232 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I've am fascinated by it because if you go 233 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:52,440 Speaker 2: back in time, it was this beautiful, bucolic you know, 234 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:57,720 Speaker 2: hilly trees, there were forests, there were farms right where 235 00:10:57,760 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 2: we're sitting right now, and it wasn't that long ago. 236 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 2: There's a couple of little places around the city where 237 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 2: you can still see remnants of that. There's a great building, 238 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 2: I think it's on sixty six on the east side 239 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 2: that's like a It was built in the early eighteen 240 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:16,960 Speaker 2: hundreds as a as a farmhouse for one of I 241 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 2: think it was John Adams's daughter, and eventually turned into 242 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 2: a little hotel and it still sits there and it's 243 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 2: you can visit it. 244 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 1: It's historic. It's not all steel and glass now. 245 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 2: No, there's next door to it is all stealing class. 246 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 1: It's funny. How well, it's all worth something, all right, 247 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 1: because it's all about the money. Tell you what we're 248 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 1: going to take a break in. Coming up next, we 249 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 1: are going to observe a moment of silence and play 250 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 1: some special music and Patty Steele's with us. Let's talk 251 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:42,679 Speaker 1: more history, coming rights. 252 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:44,079 Speaker 3: Good morning. 253 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 1: What a beautiful song Casey Musgraves and Rainbow. What a 254 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:54,679 Speaker 1: great a great song for this year's moment of silence. 255 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:58,719 Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you, gandhi oh welcome that song is. 256 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 1: It's pretty amazing. And what a day. We're joined by 257 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 1: our friend Patty Steele. We're talking all things history, all 258 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 1: things nine to eleven and all things is whatever we 259 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 1: want to talk about. 260 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 2: Yep, yep. 261 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 1: It is emotional day. I got a little term of 262 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 1: my height. 263 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, it's hard. It's it's that time, you 264 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 2: know again we go back to these moments that changed 265 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 2: the world and for us, for those of us who 266 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:25,200 Speaker 2: were here, and I think for those of us, for 267 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:30,440 Speaker 2: those watching from without and further away, it was a 268 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:34,720 Speaker 2: pivotal moment. Although it's kind of interesting. I know that 269 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 2: my husband was working at a nut yet another radio 270 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 2: station at the time, and about two days later somebody 271 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:43,200 Speaker 2: called them and where have you been. I've been trying 272 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:44,720 Speaker 2: to get a hold of you, somebody from a record 273 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:47,439 Speaker 2: company in La right, And it was like, we have 274 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:50,720 Speaker 2: you been watching the news? Yeah, but that was two 275 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 2: days ago. And it's funny how people, I mean, you 276 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 2: either really connect and you understand the humanity and the 277 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:02,920 Speaker 2: human toll, or you think, wow, that's annoying, you know, 278 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:05,600 Speaker 2: and I guess we have to move and we've got 279 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:09,440 Speaker 2: to move on. But I think for those of us 280 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 2: who feel something as painful as it is, it enriches 281 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 2: your life in some way because you begin to empathize 282 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 2: with what other people are feeling. And that's like the 283 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 2: greatest thing we can do as human beings. 284 00:13:23,679 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 1: Well, and yeah, it seems like after twenty three years 285 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:27,880 Speaker 1: have passed, a lot of us have gone out of 286 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 1: that habit and we should roll back in Yeah, no kidding. 287 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:34,199 Speaker 1: So that day my friend Dennis was in town, and 288 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 1: we packed up the car and we headed out to 289 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:38,679 Speaker 1: where I lived out in New Jersey at the farm. 290 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 2: Right. 291 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:41,560 Speaker 1: We drove out there on the sunny day and so 292 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:43,280 Speaker 1: let's go gass up the car because we don't know 293 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 1: what's next. Yeah, And people were just kind of going 294 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:48,840 Speaker 1: about their day as if. I don't think anyone knew 295 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 1: what was going on in the city one hour in 296 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:53,559 Speaker 1: our rear view mirror, you know, one hour behind us. 297 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:57,080 Speaker 1: And then the next day, you know, we got up 298 00:13:57,120 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 1: early to drive to Jersey City to do the show, 299 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 1: and we were told, look, there's people with machine guns 300 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:05,839 Speaker 1: on those roads that lead to your studios. It's you're 301 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 1: gonna have to show on my I DA and tell 302 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:08,200 Speaker 1: them what you do and maybe they'll let you in. 303 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:10,440 Speaker 1: Maybe they won't. Because it was right on the river, right, 304 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 1: and they are already on Route seventy eight coming east 305 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:16,720 Speaker 1: toward New York City. There were already American flags hanging 306 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 1: off of bridges off And that's when we've found out. 307 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 1: And we lived through these days and months of feelings 308 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 1: we'd never experienced in our lives, this beautification, this pride 309 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 1: that we had in this country. 310 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 2: Is amazing that. Yeah, you know that it. 311 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 1: Was like that moment people were nice to each other. 312 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 2: I don't know well, because I was trapped in the city. 313 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 2: I was lucky to get a hotel room, although no 314 00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 2: services in the hotel. And the next morning I had 315 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 2: to drive back down to and I had to go 316 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 2: through like a roadblocks, and I told them what I 317 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 2: was doing, and the guy said to me, what are 318 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 2: you doing in the city. And I started to cry, 319 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 2: and I said, I would rather be with my but 320 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 2: I can't get out of the city my babies. And 321 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 2: and then for how long afterwards I would have to 322 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 2: drive through the Lincoln Tunnel to go to work, and 323 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 2: I had I would I had a mom car like 324 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 2: this big suburban with baby seats in it. They searched 325 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 2: my car every morning going through the tunnel, and you know, 326 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 2: so that I could get to work. It was a 327 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 2: it was a wild time and you but you didn't 328 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 2: complain because you knew that they were just trying to 329 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 2: take care of. 330 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 1: Us there they were. Wow. Anyway, yeah, there you have 331 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 1: it it. We were all affected differently, like Danielle Yep. 332 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 4: I just remember the next day like how much everyone 333 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 4: helped everybody. How we were on the air all day 334 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 4: for days, like right like hours, and someone would call 335 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 4: and we'd put them on the air and they'd be 336 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 4: at ground zero and they'd say, we need, you know, 337 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 4: food or water, and I was fifteen minutes later someone 338 00:15:57,480 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 4: brought it to them, Like it was just immediate. People 339 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 4: were just helping each other. Whatever you need, we got 340 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 4: you back. 341 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 2: Yeah. They were lined up down the West Side yeah highway. Yeah, 342 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 2: just trying to bring supplies to people. The one thing 343 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 2: I noticed, and I don't know if you guys noticed this. 344 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 2: You know, people in New York are famous for you know, 345 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 2: you're walking on the street, you're walking fast, and you're 346 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 2: not making eye contact, and that is a thing about 347 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 2: how people maneuver through the city. Everybody was looking at 348 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 2: each other and you and you could see the pain 349 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 2: in some people's eyes. You could see just a connection, 350 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 2: but there was also a warmth there, like we're here together, 351 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 2: We're in this together. It was an interesting time. Then 352 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:41,280 Speaker 2: we stopped looking at each other again. 353 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember the first day we laughed. Yeah, we 354 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:48,400 Speaker 1: were doing the show. I don't even know how many 355 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 1: days after nine to eleven and someone said something funny 356 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 1: and we all laughed and we stopped because it was 357 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 1: we hadn't heard that noise in a while. And I'm 358 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 1: not kidding. 359 00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:58,480 Speaker 2: We didn't know if it was okay to do it 360 00:16:58,520 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 2: was okay to. 361 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 1: Laugh, and then we realized, yeah, it's time to laugh. 362 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:05,919 Speaker 1: It's time for us to be human here. And I 363 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:12,960 Speaker 1: don't know, we don't want anything like that to ever 364 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:16,440 Speaker 1: happen again. Will it happen, It will in our lifetime, 365 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 1: maybe not. But why does it take that for us. 366 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 2: To come together? 367 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:22,720 Speaker 1: Yeah? 368 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:24,960 Speaker 2: Right, Well, everybody talks about how during World War Two 369 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:28,399 Speaker 2: the country was so united, and it is a sad 370 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:31,960 Speaker 2: testament to human nature that we have to go through 371 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 2: unbelievable pain and upset in order to find each other 372 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:39,960 Speaker 2: and find the humanity in other people. But it seems 373 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:41,440 Speaker 2: to be the way we operate. 374 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:44,240 Speaker 1: Seems to be all right, Yeah, what's up, Nate? I 375 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 1: don't know where we are, Yes, Nate, what's up? 376 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 3: It's a world that doesn't exist anymore that day, remember, 377 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 3: because technology, the information that we have at our fingertips, 378 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:56,359 Speaker 3: getting text messages about things. I was going into a 379 00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:59,400 Speaker 3: class I was in college at the time and going 380 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:01,679 Speaker 3: into the class and stuff had started happening in New 381 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:04,480 Speaker 3: York and people are getting filtered information about it, and 382 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:07,479 Speaker 3: the teacher, the professor goes, Okay, thanks for showing up. 383 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:09,639 Speaker 3: I know there's some weird stuff going on. It's in 384 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 3: class for an hour and a half. Nobody knew what 385 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 3: was going on for that hour and a half. We 386 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 3: get out and the campus was empty, and I was 387 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:23,320 Speaker 3: at Penn State, and that doesn't exist anymore. Everybody gets 388 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 3: that information so quickly on their phones. And there was 389 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:29,400 Speaker 3: probably a lot of people in a blackout where they 390 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 3: were working. They're doing something, they didn't have anybody calling them, 391 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 3: and that doesn't exist anymore. You're right, we know when 392 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:40,640 Speaker 3: something bad happens immediately now, right. 393 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 1: Sometimes we know when things are bad happening and then 394 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:45,159 Speaker 1: we find out that it was all a lie. It 395 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 1: never happened. 396 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:50,159 Speaker 2: This is Do. 397 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:52,880 Speaker 1: You remember where we were the day before we were 398 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:57,080 Speaker 1: we were playing games atters. 399 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:58,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, and they had just rolled out this whole big 400 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:02,239 Speaker 4: initiative for the that moving forward, this is what we 401 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 4: were going to do, and it was a whole big thing, 402 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:06,200 Speaker 4: and the next day they scrapped the whole thing. 403 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 1: Of course they did. Wow, we had different marketing orders. 404 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 1: I remember in our studios looking, you know, at the 405 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 1: right at World Trade Center. The smoke was still bellowing 406 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:19,280 Speaker 1: out months from the pile. And then we saw smoke 407 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:21,399 Speaker 1: on our side of the river where you lived, Gandhi. 408 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:23,679 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my god, there's a fire downstairs. We 409 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:26,919 Speaker 1: look down there. It was out back steakhouts and that 410 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:29,879 Speaker 1: they were grilling up things, guild up because it was 411 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:33,400 Speaker 1: where the dogs were. All of the supplies left from 412 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:36,320 Speaker 1: beneath our building. They were down there grilling up, you know, 413 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:42,640 Speaker 1: maybe frying up step the feet, blumin onions everything, look, 414 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:46,200 Speaker 1: you know, and then we're looking to today and forward 415 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:48,879 Speaker 1: the positives that came out of something that was so 416 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 1: god awful. You can do things to help people. You 417 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:55,919 Speaker 1: can look out for other people, you can find. You 418 00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:59,360 Speaker 1: can commit one day a year to going somewhere and 419 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 1: helping a bunch of people you don't know, put together 420 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 1: a meal for people who need food. There are a 421 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:06,919 Speaker 1: thousand trillion things you can. 422 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:11,399 Speaker 2: Do, and you can find the humanity and other people. 423 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 2: I keep going back to that because it's so easy 424 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:17,199 Speaker 2: to just say you know person, person, person person and 425 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 2: just walk past them. And instead, you know, if you 426 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 2: stop and think that everybody has a story. Everybody has 427 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 2: something that they feel deeply about, something that's painful, something 428 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 2: that makes them happy. And when you can find that 429 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:34,320 Speaker 2: little bit of humanity and other people, I think it 430 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:36,120 Speaker 2: enriches all of our lives, you. 431 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 1: Know, well absolutely, and that's what might makes you want 432 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:41,680 Speaker 1: to be of service, Yeah, for other people, yes, even 433 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 1: for you, Scar Yeah. Well look, you know, it's such 434 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:49,639 Speaker 1: a gift. It's such a gift to be able to 435 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:51,720 Speaker 1: be with each other and to talk about this and 436 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:55,000 Speaker 1: you know, and how you observe this day is a 437 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 1: personal thing. Maybe you don't want to hear a bunch 438 00:20:57,119 --> 00:21:00,360 Speaker 1: of wackos on the radio talking wacko stuff, or maybe 439 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 1: you're in the mood for something fun and whatever. That's 440 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:05,160 Speaker 1: you and we support you no matter where you are. 441 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 1: Patty Steele's podcast is called The Backstory with Patty Steele, 442 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:13,720 Speaker 1: and I encourage you. Even if you've never really been 443 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 1: a history nut or slightly interested in history, she will 444 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:20,720 Speaker 1: make you want to know more about things that have 445 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 1: happened before the moment you're in right now. 446 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:27,400 Speaker 2: And that's history, thank you, that is history. It's once again, 447 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:30,119 Speaker 2: here we go again. It's the humanity in people in 448 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 2: the past. They're not just dusty folks. It's not just 449 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 2: stuff in a history book. It's human beings that wanted 450 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 2: the same things and felt the same things you and 451 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 2: I feel. They just had a different set of circumstances 452 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:44,960 Speaker 2: they operated in, and so it's sort of fascinating to 453 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:47,719 Speaker 2: find out how they dealt with all of that and 454 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:49,200 Speaker 2: reacted to that, you know. 455 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:51,320 Speaker 1: So give it a listen. It's the backstory with Patty Steel. 456 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:53,480 Speaker 1: And by the way, sometimes it's very racy. 457 00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, sometimes it is, So that's time for another racy one. Huh. 458 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:02,320 Speaker 1: I think it's something I think so you can get 459 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:05,400 Speaker 1: ranchi with it. Sure, we love you, Patty Steel, thanks 460 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 1: for coming in, Yello. 461 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 2: Patty in the Morning Elvis Durant in the Morning Show