Speaker 1: Hey, that folks.
Speaker 2: It is Thursday, February nineteenth, and the royal formerly known
Speaker 2: as Prince Andrew has been arrested. With that Welcome to
Speaker 2: this breaking news episode of Amy and TJ.
Speaker 1: Robes.
Speaker 2: This news is just coming to us just as we
Speaker 2: were about to hit the record butting on something else
Speaker 2: this morning. It's hard to imagine, Robes a farther fall
Speaker 2: from grace for Andrew, and yet it has happened. Just
Speaker 2: your reaction to hearing Prince Andrew for Prince Andrew is
Speaker 2: now under arrest.
Speaker 3: I have to say I feel emotional because I don't
Speaker 3: think most people ever thought this day would happen. I
Speaker 3: know that so many of the victims of Jeffrey Epstein,
Speaker 3: and especially Virginia Giufray, if she could have seen this day,
Speaker 3: I don't think she thought it was possible. I think
Speaker 3: most of the victims didn't think this was likely. And
Speaker 3: to see this happen is just overwhelming. I think that's
Speaker 3: my initial reaction. I'm emotionally overwhelmed, and it feels like finally, finally,
Speaker 3: justice might actually be happening.
Speaker 1: All right, and justice what will that look like?
Speaker 2: Let's be clear here, folks, and again, this news just
Speaker 2: came to us minutes minutes before we started recording here.
Speaker 2: So a lot of more information still to come, but these,
Speaker 2: at least from what we understand, charges, and there is
Speaker 2: a police statement even about this. These charges aren't necessarily
Speaker 2: Robes to your point there about victims not having to
Speaker 2: do with sexual misconduct. Instead, this has to do with
Speaker 2: his behavior, his conduct, if you will. While he was
Speaker 2: representing the British government and still connected to Epstein, he
Speaker 2: possibly passed on some confidential information to Epstein and that
Speaker 2: would be the violation of life law. That is what
Speaker 2: we're talking about, Steel Ropes. It's his connection to Epstein,
Speaker 2: even if it's not a charge of some kind of
Speaker 2: sexual misconduct.
Speaker 4: Correct.
Speaker 3: It does feel a little bit like how back in
Speaker 3: the day the United States was able to go after
Speaker 3: members of the mafia. They didn't actually convict them on
Speaker 3: some of the most heinous parts of what they've been
Speaker 3: are accused of murder, etc.
Speaker 4: But it was tax evasion, you know.
Speaker 3: So you find a way, and this certainly is one
Speaker 3: way where they feel like they can prove it appears
Speaker 3: that he violated British law and so yes, the Thames
Speaker 3: Valley Police made a statement and They actually didn't officially
Speaker 3: name Andrew the former prince because that is also British law,
Speaker 3: but we can go ahead and read for you the
Speaker 3: statement that they put out. Thames Valley Police has opened
Speaker 3: an investigation into the offense of misconduct in public office.
Speaker 3: As part of the investigation, we have today arrested a
Speaker 3: man in his sixty from Norfolk on suspicion of misconduct
Speaker 3: in public office and are carrying out searches at addresses
Speaker 3: in Berkshire and Norfolk. The man remains in police custody
Speaker 3: at this time. We will not be naming the arrested
Speaker 3: man as per national guidance. Please also remember that this
Speaker 3: case is now active, so care should be taken with
Speaker 3: any publication to avoid being in contempt of court. The
Speaker 3: Assistant Chief Constable said, following a thorough assessment, we have
Speaker 3: now opened an investigation into this allegation of misconduct in
Speaker 3: public office. It is important that we protect the integrity
Speaker 3: and objectivity of our investigation as we work with our
Speaker 3: partners to investigate the investigate this alleged defense.
Speaker 4: And this is interesting, they say. At the end.
Speaker 3: We understand the significant public interest in this case and
Speaker 3: we will provide updates at the appropriate time.
Speaker 2: So this is a suspicion of misconduct while in public office.
Speaker 2: That is officially what they've been looking at. Now we
Speaker 2: should go back, we should explain, yes, they've been looking
Speaker 2: into this because an allegation came up and it was
Speaker 2: brought to police attention. However, as we've had trickle and
Speaker 2: trickle and trickle of Epstein files come out, those Epstein
Speaker 2: files have continued to show more of relationships between a
Speaker 2: lot of powerful people around the world and Jeffrey Epstein.
Speaker 2: We have known robes for a long time about the
Speaker 2: relationship and the allegations having to do with the relationship
Speaker 2: between Epstein and former Prince Andrew, but some of the
Speaker 2: documents are giving more insight into the relationship and apparently
Speaker 2: there is something in this new batch that has provided
Speaker 2: further evidence that allowed police to move forward with this
Speaker 2: idea of some misconduct in public office.
Speaker 4: That's right.
Speaker 3: There's an email specifically that Andrew appears to have forwarded
Speaker 3: to Jeffrey Epstein, and in that email, the forwarding was
Speaker 3: official reports about visits he made as an envoy of
Speaker 3: the British government to South Asia. So he gets these
Speaker 3: official reports from his assistant Andrew, and then he forwards
Speaker 3: these official reports, these government documents to Jeffrey Epstein, and
Speaker 3: that is the act that he is now being investigated for.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's a violation. You're passing along confident.
Speaker 2: Imagine a top secret US document you pass along to
Speaker 2: somebody of yours via email.
Speaker 1: That is a violation.
Speaker 2: So now they feel they have enough to move forward,
Speaker 2: and they're moving forward and arresting the former Prince Andrew.
Speaker 2: On happy birthday, mister former Prince today happens to be
Speaker 2: his sixty sixth birthday. Police have been seen at the
Speaker 2: home that he is in now, which is his brother's home,
Speaker 2: because he officially got kicked out of the Royal residences.
Speaker 1: Is that correct?
Speaker 3: Yes? He obviously we have seen over the past several
Speaker 3: months the Royal Family, in a very bold and public way,
Speaker 3: distanced themselves in statement and in localit.
Speaker 1: He got kicked out of a family, He got.
Speaker 3: Kicked out of the family, got kicked out of the
Speaker 3: family homes, lost his title. I mean, they have done
Speaker 3: everything they can to completely distance themselves from Andrew, including
Speaker 3: now we can't even call him Prince Andrew anymore.
Speaker 4: The man formally known as Prince Andrew he.
Speaker 2: Took that title, and at the time, Robes, when that happened,
Speaker 2: a lot of people looked at and really celebrated. This
Speaker 2: is the best we're ever going to get, because that
Speaker 2: is no small thing. That doesn't just happen to have
Speaker 2: your print now to us here in this country, like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 2: that's a big deal. Oh that's tough. That sucks for him.
Speaker 2: This is everything over there. To have a title taken
Speaker 2: that was given to you by birth, that was a
Speaker 2: big deal. Thought that was going to be the end
Speaker 2: of it. Robes, we knew some investigations and things were
Speaker 2: going on. I have to tell you I wasn't holding
Speaker 2: out some hope and had an expectation that we were
Speaker 2: going to have this headline.
Speaker 4: No, this actually no, It truly takes my breath away.
Speaker 3: I'm not overstating that this is something that I don't
Speaker 3: think most people thought they would ever witness in their lifetime.
Speaker 3: I believe I've been actually looking at the precedence for
Speaker 3: this and it just doesn't exist.
Speaker 4: This is unheard of. This is significant.
Speaker 3: And just before the announcement was made, by the way,
Speaker 3: interestingly enough, Prime Minister of Great Britain kre Starmer told
Speaker 3: the BBC. Nobody is above the law, and they were
Speaker 3: talking about so he was probably very aware of what
Speaker 3: was about to happen or what had been happening behind
Speaker 3: the scenes before we saw this news break today, and
Speaker 3: certainly just to even see a British police there at
Speaker 3: the residence where Andrew is and then to think about
Speaker 3: him being incarcerated right now, in custody right now, The
Speaker 3: idea of that, the image of that, it blows my mind.
Speaker 2: I mean again, you know, it's shocking that the arrest
Speaker 2: took place. It's for what a reason it. I don't
Speaker 2: to see an image of him under arrest wouldn't be shocking.
Speaker 2: I'm saying. For so long we have not had hidden
Speaker 2: or publicly ropes. He hasn't had any type of respectful
Speaker 2: reputation in years, in years and years, and for the
Speaker 2: most part, the reputation is like an icky, creepy guy
Speaker 2: was the Oh my god, even I'm sorry if you
Speaker 2: can't come up with it, I can't right now. The
Speaker 2: billboards that the company uses in New York, oh.
Speaker 3: They were tongue in cheek making fun of basically how
Speaker 3: Prince Andrew got away with the crimes that everyone knows
Speaker 3: he committed.
Speaker 1: So to my point, it was a storage company in
Speaker 1: New York.
Speaker 2: Essentially big billboard you drive around it said they advertise
Speaker 2: no fees, no penalties, just like Prince Andrew.
Speaker 1: Like it was.
Speaker 2: I'm saying, the reputation you could, you could say anything
Speaker 2: about him. Everybody just understood this was the this was
Speaker 2: the royal that was It was okay to insult. This
Speaker 2: was the old He was just an outlier robes. So
Speaker 2: to think now he's been arrested. Maybe we didn't think
Speaker 2: it was going to happen, But I think for the
Speaker 2: most part, people aren't shocked by the idea of this
Speaker 2: guy being in handcuffs.
Speaker 1: Most we go, okay, that makes sense.
Speaker 4: That's a very good point you should make.
Speaker 3: He for long, for years now, he has been a joke,
Speaker 3: a laughing stock people.
Speaker 4: But that's even wrong. He shouldn't just be a joke
Speaker 4: or a laughing stock.
Speaker 3: He most certainly should have been held accountable for these insinuations,
Speaker 3: these allegations, and truly most people believe. I think in
Speaker 3: this world that people who have enough money, who have
Speaker 3: enough protection, who have a big enough title, will never
Speaker 3: be held accountable. I think some people just almost unfortunately
Speaker 3: submit to that idea and accept that idea. And so
Speaker 3: to see somebody actually now who was at the highest
Speaker 3: level you can think potentially, I mean, he wasn't elected
Speaker 3: to his office, as you point out, he was given it,
Speaker 3: perhaps even stronger than in terms of his protection, because
Speaker 3: this is something he was born into, something he was
Speaker 3: entitled to. And so to see some of those titles
Speaker 3: stripped away as one thing, but to now see him
Speaker 3: held accountable in a criminal court essentially, which is what
Speaker 3: we will actually be moving forward with, is just surreal now.
Speaker 3: I actually, by the way, in case anyone was interested,
Speaker 3: I did find that billboard slogan because it is the point.
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is what it said, safe, secure, protected with
Speaker 4: minimum charges, just like and.
Speaker 2: They were advertising storage space, like they used him as
Speaker 2: a punchline just to advertise storage space. Has nothing to
Speaker 2: do with anything I'm saying. That's the reach of this story.
Speaker 2: That's the reach of Epstein. That's the reach of power.
Speaker 2: That's the reach of Prince Andrew. And what this story
Speaker 2: has been for year robes how many how long? At
Speaker 2: least a decade this but how long has he been
Speaker 2: dealing with Epstein?
Speaker 1: Oh? The accusations.
Speaker 3: Look, I believe Jeffrey Epstein died by suicide in twenty nineteen. Correct,
Speaker 3: so he was arrested again, but he was initially held
Speaker 3: accountable for a very small sweetheart deal that he received
Speaker 3: in Florida back in two thousand and seven. Prince Andrew
Speaker 3: or Andrew's name, has been involved in this story for decades,
Speaker 3: I believe would be the best way to put it,
Speaker 3: for more than fifteen years at least. And Virginia Giuffrey,
Speaker 3: who at the time was went by Virginia Roberts. She
Speaker 3: put her name out there almost immediately people knew who
Speaker 3: she was. She made the initial allegations she actually was.
Speaker 3: I don't know if she was Jane Doe number one
Speaker 3: or Jane No. Number two in these but she has
Speaker 3: been speaking out and speaking up. She went hiding in
Speaker 3: Australia because she was so concerned about the backlash and
Speaker 3: the repercussions of saying what happened to her. But she
Speaker 3: was the first person to point the finger directly at
Speaker 3: Andrew period.
Speaker 1: He is Folks.
Speaker 2: As we speak this morning, we continue to watch these
Speaker 2: reports being coming out from several outlets BBC in particular,
Speaker 2: but now everyone has picked up in all the major
Speaker 2: reporting yes, that Prince Andrew the Royal, formerly known as
Speaker 2: Prince Andrew, is in police custody as we speak and
Speaker 2: has been arrested this morning after a round of police
Speaker 2: activity at his home.
Speaker 1: That continues. We'll explain what's happenings to here.
Speaker 2: And we continue here on Amy and TJ with a
Speaker 2: breaking story that I mean, We'll be honest with you, guys.
Speaker 2: We were all set to hit record on a different
Speaker 2: story overnight story this morning and Rhodes, I is it really?
Speaker 2: Were we not a minute two minutes away from doing
Speaker 2: something else and this story came across and this will
Speaker 2: be the story of the day everywhere.
Speaker 3: Yes, we actually were sitting had our microphones in hand,
Speaker 3: and all of a sudden you said, hold up, Robes,
Speaker 3: we have a massive breaking news story to report. And
Speaker 3: so yes, getting word that Andrew, formerly known as Prince Andrew.
Speaker 3: I guess he's Andrew mount Batten Windsor has been arrested
Speaker 3: and is being investigated for charges of misconduct in public office.
Speaker 3: The reports are that he sent and we see the
Speaker 3: email he forwarded an email he received from his assistance
Speaker 3: about official royal duties in South Asia. He sent these
Speaker 3: official reports to Jeffrey Epstein, which would be a clear
Speaker 3: violation of British law. And by the way, this is
Speaker 3: really significant because if he is found guilty, the maximum penalty.
Speaker 4: For these charges life in prison. That is.
Speaker 3: Again I keep saying the words surreal, but I just
Speaker 3: it's hard to process this day and this arrest and
Speaker 3: what this conviction could mean.
Speaker 2: Police, again, as we speak, continue to be at his
Speaker 2: home now, according to reports out of the BBC, at
Speaker 2: least now that this has been initiated, Now that this
Speaker 2: process is underway, they will be searching. Police you can
Speaker 2: expect them to be at his home or homes and
Speaker 2: now have the authority to start collecting information, collecting evidence.
Speaker 2: We have seen this morning, at least the pictures and
Speaker 2: the images we're seeing Robes, it is it's wild to
Speaker 2: see authorities, police outfitted in police uniforms at the home
Speaker 2: of former Prince Andrew going through his stuff. But that
Speaker 2: is what's happening this morning, Robes. I don't know how
Speaker 2: and I don't think people expect it. This story, this
Speaker 2: Epstein's story, is incredible. We're talking about people stepping down
Speaker 2: recently and people under fire. The guy at the LA Olympics,
Speaker 2: that's running that.
Speaker 5: All these tize, these powerful, powerful people, and yet roads
Speaker 5: in the past week we have seen a bunch of
Speaker 5: domin fall. This is the biggest domino in the Epstein story.
Speaker 3: Yes, we last week, I believe it was the top
Speaker 3: lawyer for Goldman Sachs, all of her emails were released.
Speaker 3: We're seeing folks from Norway, the ambassador there stepping down, resigning.
Speaker 3: This is the point, and this was why there was
Speaker 3: such a rallying cry for transparency for the FBI, for
Speaker 3: the Department of Justice, for anyone who had files and
Speaker 3: emails related to Jeffrey Epstein and the investigation into his
Speaker 3: illegal activity. They wanted the people who had been protected
Speaker 3: essentially by not having these documents released. People wanted to
Speaker 3: know who was allowing him. You know, this is a
Speaker 3: huge part of it. People who were in positions of power,
Speaker 3: who created a safety net, so to speak, a bubble
Speaker 3: for Jeffrey Epstein to operate in and around. People wanted
Speaker 3: those folks held accountable. And we are seeing that now
Speaker 3: actually finally happen with this latest three million document drop
Speaker 3: from the day Dog. And this is pretty remarkable. And yes,
Speaker 3: this is the biggest fish. This was the biggest name
Speaker 3: that had been out there. Definitely, with all the names
Speaker 3: that have been suggested, this was the big fish.
Speaker 2: And I should have said this at the very should
Speaker 2: have said this at the very top. He has always
Speaker 2: denied wrongdoing. He has not been held accountable criminally for anything.
Speaker 2: At this point, he is still an innocent man, but
Speaker 2: he has denied wrongdoing. That wrongdoing includes allegations direct and
Speaker 2: public allegations that he in fact did have sex with
Speaker 2: an underage girl on multiple occasions, that being Virginia je Fray.
Speaker 3: It also should be noted though, in twenty twenty two,
Speaker 3: he paid Virginia an undisclosed amount of money to settle
Speaker 3: a civil lawsuit in a New York Co. Court, and
Speaker 3: in that lawsuit, Virginia did state specifically that he raped her,
Speaker 3: that he sexually abused her when she was seventeen. Now,
Speaker 3: in that settlement, as you point out, he did not
Speaker 3: admit any wrong doing, but he did pay her a
Speaker 3: decent amount of money.
Speaker 1: And again people can come to those conclusions.
Speaker 2: But at this point it should and continue should be
Speaker 2: noted that he is considered and should be considered an
Speaker 2: innocent man and has always denied any wrongdoing. Folks, this
Speaker 2: is going to be a developing story throughout the day
Speaker 2: today because it has just happened within the past hour,
Speaker 2: within the past moments and minutes even and as it
Speaker 2: continues to develop. But the biggest probably fish in this
Speaker 2: whole Epstein fiasco that so many people have pointed towards. Yes,
Speaker 2: Gallaine Maxwell is in jail. She has a twenty year
Speaker 2: prison sentence, and a lot of people are saying, fine,
Speaker 2: that's the only justice we can get because Epstein died,
Speaker 2: I think robes a lot of people thought that was
Speaker 2: the best you're going to get as far as accountability.
Speaker 2: And I think a lot of people get angry at
Speaker 2: the idea of her trying to get out of jail
Speaker 2: or being pardoned, because a lot of people look at
Speaker 2: this is all we're.
Speaker 1: Going to have an accountability. This adds a new life.
Speaker 4: Oh, it certainly does.
Speaker 3: And we had already heard previously from King Charles and
Speaker 3: the Royal family that they would stand by and continue
Speaker 3: to support any law enforcement action that may or may
Speaker 3: not be taken against Andrew. So they have already previously
Speaker 3: stated that they stand in support at the victims, they
Speaker 3: stand in support of the law. So Andrew will not
Speaker 3: be getting any help from the Royal family.
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Speaker 1: There are a plenty these days.
Speaker 2: There will be plenty on this story today, probably officially
Speaker 2: from law enforcement, but also we can expect to probably
Speaker 2: hear from victims of Epstein and people who were tied
Speaker 2: into this whole mess because Robes a lot of people
Speaker 2: as we are talking, are hearing this news for the
Speaker 2: first time.
Speaker 1: A lot of people in the world are going to
Speaker 1: wake up to this.
Speaker 2: A lot of people, Robes victims in this Epstein story
Speaker 2: as we talk. It's amazing to think are not aware
Speaker 2: that this has happened yet.
Speaker 3: I just got chills because waking up to this news,
Speaker 3: even if, and to your point, he's not being charged
Speaker 3: with anything sexual or anything to do with what so
Speaker 3: many of these victims endured or encountered, but just to
Speaker 3: know that someone who thought he could get away with
Speaker 3: acting the way he is accused of acting with Jeffrey
Speaker 3: Epstein might finally actually have a day in court. That
Speaker 3: is a huge, huge development. And of course we will
Speaker 3: stay on top of it for all of you. Thank
Speaker 3: you in the meantime though, for listening to us. I
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Speaker 4: Holmes. We will be talking to you very soon.