1 00:00:01,920 --> 00:00:04,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to brain Stuff, a production of I Heart Radio, 2 00:00:06,320 --> 00:00:11,120 Speaker 1: Hey brain Stuff, Lauren Vogelbaum. Here there's an inscription attached 3 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 1: to the wall of a tomb in the ancient Italian 4 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 1: city of Pompeii. That's not honoring the deceased, far from it. 5 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:22,920 Speaker 1: It reads, in translation, stranger, stay a short while, if 6 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 1: it is not too troublesome, and learn what to avoid. 7 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 1: This man, who I hoped was a friend of mine, 8 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:33,559 Speaker 1: brought prosecutors to me and instigated proceedings. I am grateful 9 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 1: to the gods and my innocence. I am free from 10 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 1: all trouble. He who deceived us, may he not receive 11 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 1: the household, gods nor the underworld. This perhaps petty piece 12 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:50,839 Speaker 1: of archaeological graffiti is known as a cursed tablet. It 13 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 1: was written by an ex friend of the deceased and 14 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 1: put on display for the whole city to read after 15 00:00:56,240 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 1: his death. Though it might seem strange today, writing cursed 16 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 1: tablets was a common practice in ancient Roman Greece. But 17 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 1: what was the purpose of these objects, aside from the 18 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:11,039 Speaker 1: obvious and who was writing them? Today we're talking all 19 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:15,760 Speaker 1: things cursed tablets. A cursed tablets essentially did what the 20 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:19,399 Speaker 1: name implies they were objects, usually from ancient Greece and Rome, 21 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 1: upon which somebody wrote a curse. For the article, this 22 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:25,679 Speaker 1: episode is based on how Stuff Works. Spoke with Dr 23 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 1: Stuart McKee, a scholar of Roman history at Durham University 24 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:32,960 Speaker 1: in the UK. He said, the standard definition is that 25 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 1: their intention is to influence by supernatural means people and 26 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 1: animals against their will. This definition was originally put forth 27 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 1: by the late David Jordan's, former director of the Canadian Institute. 28 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 1: In Greece. All sorts of objects, from shards of pottery 29 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 1: to scraps of papyrus to graves could be turned into 30 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 1: cursed tablets. McKee said There's one really cool one that 31 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 1: was written on a lamp, but the most common curse 32 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 1: tablets by far were written on thin scraps of lead. 33 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:09,079 Speaker 1: A lead is a byproduct of silver mining, which was 34 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 1: a major source of wealth in ancient Greece and Rome, 35 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 1: particularly in the Greek city state of Athens. This means 36 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:17,919 Speaker 1: that there was a lot of extra lead lying around 37 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 1: at the time. The ancient Romans frequently used it as 38 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:23,920 Speaker 1: a cosmetic or to line their drinking vessels and pipes, 39 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:26,640 Speaker 1: which we know today to be a kind of curse 40 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 1: in itself, as blood poisoning is no joke, but they 41 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:35,120 Speaker 1: also used it to inscribe messages, especially ones to the gods. 42 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 1: A Scholars think that the choice of lead as a 43 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:40,520 Speaker 1: writing material was part practical a lead is soft and 44 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 1: therefore easy to scratch marks into, but also part aesthetic 45 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:48,520 Speaker 1: has to works also spoke with Dr Britta Ager, a 46 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:52,639 Speaker 1: classicist at Arizona State University. She said, you get the 47 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 1: sort of silvery fluid looking line against the oxidized surface 48 00:02:56,919 --> 00:03:01,959 Speaker 1: of the metal. It just looks magical. Cursed tablets had 49 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:06,399 Speaker 1: bursts of popularity across Greek and Roman history, but when 50 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 1: they were fashionable, they were ubiquitous across social classes and situations. 51 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 1: Wealthy politicians would sometimes curse their political rivals or the 52 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:19,960 Speaker 1: opposing party in a legal battle. Working class folks would 53 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 1: curse thieves, murderers, their crushes, or the chariot racing team 54 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:27,240 Speaker 1: that they wanted to lose. There are records of enslaved 55 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 1: people using curses. The wealthy and educated could, of course 56 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 1: hand right their own curses if they so chose, but 57 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 1: many folks may have relied on a third party for 58 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 1: their cursing needs. Ager said, if you weren't literate enough 59 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 1: to write one of these, you could go to a 60 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 1: professional who would do it for you. These local magicians 61 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 1: acted kind of like contract attorneys, drafting up cursed templates 62 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 1: for their clients and letting them fill in the blanks. 63 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 1: Archaeologists have even found cursed tablets where the name of 64 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 1: the person being cursed was slightly too long to fit 65 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 1: in the blank. The letters had to be smooshed together 66 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 1: as a result. And of course, where there are curses, 67 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 1: there are counter curses. McKee described it as a sort 68 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 1: of magical arms race. Amulets to ward off curses like 69 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 1: the Evil Eye were and still are popular in many 70 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:22,840 Speaker 1: parts of the world. Some cursed tablets detailed protective measures 71 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 1: in case the cursed person discovered the spell and decided 72 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 1: to retaliate, and other cursed tablets even included clauses to 73 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 1: ensure that the curse circumvented popular protective measures. So when 74 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 1: did cursed tablets go out of fashion for good? The 75 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:41,599 Speaker 1: answer depends on how you look at it. By the 76 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:45,359 Speaker 1: fourth century, cursed tablets in the Roman Empire were becoming scarce. 77 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 1: The answer depends on how you look at it. By 78 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 1: the fourth century CE, cursed tablets in the Roman Empire 79 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 1: were becoming scarce, McKee said. In some of the later 80 00:04:56,560 --> 00:05:00,240 Speaker 1: Roman law codes from Constantine onward, you do sti to 81 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:03,920 Speaker 1: get much more heavy policing of religious options, and also, 82 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 1: you know, culture changes. However, the basic human feelings powerlessness, frustration, jealousy, 83 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 1: and anger that drove people to write cursed tablets never 84 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 1: went away. Take for example, Twitter, which some would argue 85 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 1: is absolutely cursed. Back in British, Twitter users took their 86 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 1: political frustrations to the Internet in the immediate aftermath of 87 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 1: the Panama Papers reveal. For several days, the hashtag curse 88 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:37,360 Speaker 1: David Cameron was trending, attached to messages like this one 89 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 1: from user mr Tickle three, may every sock you wear 90 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 1: be slightly rotated just enough for it to be uncomfortable. 91 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 1: Whether or not those Twitter users actually believed they were 92 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 1: going to curse the then British Prime Minister, the message 93 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 1: was clear this person had done harm and they wanted justice, 94 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 1: be it divine or online. M In that sense, some 95 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 1: key and Ager say, regardless of religious belief, we all 96 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 1: still use curses, McKee said, it's only a short step 97 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:13,599 Speaker 1: from spreading malicious gossip about someone to writing a curse. 98 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 1: Today's episode is based on the article ancient folks didn't 99 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:25,479 Speaker 1: have Twitter, But Boy did they have curse tablets on 100 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 1: how stuff works dot Com written by Joanna Thompson. Brain 101 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 1: Stuff is production of iHeart Radio in partnership with how 102 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:33,119 Speaker 1: stuff Works dot Com, and it's produced by Tyler Clang 103 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 1: and Ramsey Young. 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