Speaker 1: Same with Edmund Diaz.
Speaker 2: They weren't in the market for him until they were
Speaker 2: things changed.
Speaker 1: They were like, you know what, we can do this.
Speaker 1: Let's go back in.
Speaker 3: Thursday show, which means it's the last show of the week,
Speaker 3: which means I get to take a little bit of
Speaker 3: a break. What's going on, party people? I am clip Asias.
Speaker 3: That is Katie Wo. We got some Dodger talk for you.
Speaker 3: We're gonna talk a whole bunch of trek Schooble today.
Speaker 3: It feels like it's finally the day Wo that we
Speaker 3: just go all in on trek Schooble. Before we get
Speaker 3: into that, I want to tell people sound off in
Speaker 3: the comments. We're gonna take some comments, Q and A
Speaker 3: a little bit later in the show. Get your Dodgers thoughts,
Speaker 3: all that kind of stuff in the chat. You are
Speaker 3: in New York. The team is about to play a
Speaker 3: series with the Mets. We'll talk more about that later.
Speaker 3: Coming off a winning two of three in Philly, let's
Speaker 3: talk about that for a second. Would you like would
Speaker 3: you hate? I don't think there's much to hate really
Speaker 3: about that series.
Speaker 1: Not a lot to hate.
Speaker 2: They went four and two against the Phillies and the Yankees,
Speaker 2: like automatically, you're taking that.
Speaker 1: But when we throw the pitchers out there that the
Speaker 1: Dodgers won four.
Speaker 2: Games out of six by throwing Rokie, Emma Chian, Eric
Speaker 2: Flower in a bullpen game in four of those games,
Speaker 2: which includes a doubleheader, and they faced Garrett Cole, Camas Schletler,
Speaker 2: Zach Wheeler, Christopher Sanchez. I'm taking that every single time.
Speaker 2: I liked what we've seen out of Max Munsey. We're
Speaker 2: seeing a lot of Max Munsey love so far. To
Speaker 2: kick off the second half, Dalton Rushing snapped a pretty
Speaker 2: brutal skim of some encouraging swings last night. All the
Speaker 2: Dodgers have to do is keep winning series. It was
Speaker 2: their twenty second series win. I believe. Yeah, good teams
Speaker 2: win good series. That's not exactly smart baseball analysis.
Speaker 1: It is just what it is.
Speaker 2: So Dodgers took our business. I expect them to do
Speaker 2: the same against the Mets. And then we roll into
Speaker 2: the deadline, which.
Speaker 1: Right now feels like it's going to be a little boring.
Speaker 1: Officially ten days to go. I imagine that.
Speaker 2: Changes over the next week as more and more teams
Speaker 2: decide if they're going to be buyers are both.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Red Sox decided to rattle off fifteen wins in
Speaker 3: a row, like what the hell Jays have been asked,
Speaker 3: the Orioles have been asked like it's it's it's wild
Speaker 3: over there. And then Dodgers. Of course, it's important for
Speaker 3: people to understand, like, yeah, they beat they got to
Speaker 3: More importantly, a number of very very good pictures there.
Speaker 3: You mentioned Schlitzler Nola was good at some point, you know,
Speaker 3: Max love you. Max already talked a lot about that.
Speaker 3: We don't need to talk too much about the Dodgers.
Speaker 3: We need to talk about somebody, the future Dodger, Derek Scopert,
Speaker 3: do it, do it right now?
Speaker 1: And this is all.
Speaker 3: These are my words when I say that. But we're
Speaker 3: getting into it with rumor has it? Rumor has it?
Speaker 2: Woo.
Speaker 3: You've been busy today, put out a column. I should
Speaker 3: probably set this up before I go to the wrong screen.
Speaker 3: But you put out a column today. You will Salmon PJ.
Speaker 3: Mooney talking about Trek's schoobl industry inside as you talk
Speaker 3: to a bunch of executives where they think he's going,
Speaker 3: whether or not he's going to be traded, all that
Speaker 3: kind of stuff. What can you tell us about your
Speaker 3: work here?
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is to me.
Speaker 2: I love doing stories like this because every exec has
Speaker 2: a different opinion and almost everything, but especially when it
Speaker 2: comes to School and the biggest different opinion was should
Speaker 2: the Tigers trade him or should they not? And when
Speaker 2: we look at where the Tigers are right now in
Speaker 2: the AL Central, they are forty eight fifty four, not great,
Speaker 2: six and a half out of the division, only four
Speaker 2: and a half out of the wildcard. Still, with how
Speaker 2: random the wildcard can be in almost every scenario, this
Speaker 2: would usually dictate a soft.
Speaker 1: Cell in my opinion for the Tigers or ready team.
Speaker 2: But you have to factor in the ALE Central, you
Speaker 2: have to factor in the American League overall, and you
Speaker 2: have to factor in that the Tigers might not want
Speaker 2: to trade School if they think that they're a week away.
Speaker 1: From being right back into contention, and they might be.
Speaker 2: So that was the biggest debate when we talked to
Speaker 2: execs around the league was should they trade him?
Speaker 1: Should they not?
Speaker 2: And if the Tigers do side to trade Schoogle, well,
Speaker 2: it's no surprise.
Speaker 1: That the Dog or the Dodgers are the industry favorite.
Speaker 2: Now we've gone back and forth Clint on if the
Speaker 2: Dodgers actually need him. We've reported I heard the Athletic
Speaker 2: that the Dodgers would prefer to have a much more
Speaker 2: calm deadline. They're not really looking to make a big
Speaker 2: blockbuster splash unless they have to. It all comes down
Speaker 2: to the health of show. Hey of Snell of Glass. Now,
Speaker 2: longtime listeners, you know the drill. We've talked about it
Speaker 2: for the last three weeks or so. But when we
Speaker 2: were looking at the tears, Clint, I'm interested to see
Speaker 2: your thoughts here.
Speaker 1: There were a couple of surprisers.
Speaker 2: It wasn't surprising that the Dodgers were the industry favorite,
Speaker 2: and we'll touch into all the Dodgers'.
Speaker 1: Schooble stuff later in the show.
Speaker 2: But seeing the Rays as a dark horse, seeing the
Speaker 2: Brewers as the small market pick, those surprise me too.
Speaker 2: I still think as we sit here on July twenty third,
Speaker 2: the Tigers keep schooble, but certainly it's going to be
Speaker 2: the name everyone's watching in the industry until August third.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, Dodgers, like you said, they are the favorites.
Speaker 3: We've been talking about this for a while. We know
Speaker 3: the Dodgers have the tools, they have, the talent to
Speaker 3: acquire somebody like Trek Scoogle. You all have a need
Speaker 3: at the top of the rotation, even with the talent
Speaker 3: that this team has. But yeah, this is where you know,
Speaker 3: it gets fun, It gets interesting because you you could
Speaker 3: sit here, We can sit here and know that all
Speaker 3: those guys could come back, people can be healthy. We've
Speaker 3: talked about it ad nauseum over the last few weeks
Speaker 3: and all that. How about the different angle, it's the
Speaker 3: will he be traded? Will the Tigers actually look to
Speaker 3: move him? You mentioned they're in the mix. It's not
Speaker 3: a pretty scenario, I think on Fair Territory this morning.
Speaker 3: This morning they mentioned they have like a thirty percent
Speaker 3: chance of making the postseason. They're in the mix. The
Speaker 3: Tigers are in the mix. Here. It feels like it
Speaker 3: would also be a really hard sell for that fan base,
Speaker 3: you know, like maybe it's not up to the Dodgers.
Speaker 2: It's almost always up to the Dodgers, right. I say
Speaker 2: this with all the respect to Andrew Freeman. It's the
Speaker 2: Dodgers world. They're just living in it. If the Dodgers
Speaker 2: want somebody, they're gonna go get that person, and they're
Speaker 2: gonna do it on their terms. They weren't really in
Speaker 2: the market for Kyle Tucker until they were, and then
Speaker 2: they signed him on a deal that was much shorter
Speaker 2: than two other deals he got from the Blue Jays
Speaker 2: and the Mets. Same with Edmund Diaz, they weren't in
Speaker 2: the market for him until they were. Things changed. They
Speaker 2: were like, you know what, we can do this, Let's
Speaker 2: go back in. That's why these execs across the industry
Speaker 2: are still connecting Schooble to the Dodgers, even though it's
Speaker 2: been pretty clear on the Dodgers' end that they view
Speaker 2: themselves as honestly sellers, which sounds weird to say a
Speaker 2: team buying for their third straight World Series championship shouldn't
Speaker 2: be selling at the deadline, But when you look at
Speaker 2: what they're trying to do with their roster, their prospect depth,
Speaker 2: I can see it. But because they have the ability
Speaker 2: to just hop in and say, you know what, actually
Speaker 2: does this is something that we want, we change our mind.
Speaker 2: We have the prospect capital to do it, we have
Speaker 2: no financial restrictions, and we're the Dodgers. That's why you
Speaker 2: keep seeing people tied in to the organization and the player.
Speaker 2: But ultimately it comes down to if they need him
Speaker 2: and then more importantly, if the Tigers want to trade him.
Speaker 2: And I'm with you, Clint, it's a really hard sell
Speaker 2: to that Tigers fan base. Let's look at what they
Speaker 2: did over the offseason. They started with extending the q
Speaker 2: O to labor tours. That's a twenty million dollar qualifying
Speaker 2: offer that puts them in a different tier when it
Speaker 2: comes to their opening day payroll. Right then they go
Speaker 2: out and they signed from Bribaldez to a three year
Speaker 2: I believe one hundred and fifteen million dollar contract to
Speaker 2: be the two behind Schooble. Those two moves right there
Speaker 2: do not signify a team or a front office that
Speaker 2: is looking to sell if things get a little you know,
Speaker 2: it's not like they were ten games out right now,
Speaker 2: they're four and a half out of the playoff spot.
Speaker 2: They brought Justin Berlander back. I know it hasn't gone
Speaker 2: exactly according to plan for the final you know, reunion Tour,
Speaker 2: but these are all moves they made to tell their
Speaker 2: fan base, we are going to compete in this division.
Speaker 1: This is our guy in Schooble.
Speaker 2: It's unlikely the Tigers bring him back in free agency
Speaker 2: or can even afford to.
Speaker 1: So they're going to go all in. At least that
Speaker 1: was the message that they put out in the winter.
Speaker 2: Now they had a really rough startup middle of the
Speaker 2: first half, but they're one week away, one heater away.
Speaker 2: As one exec said, from being right back in it,
Speaker 2: we saw the ale Central last year, and as we
Speaker 2: saw with the Guardians, it's very possible in this division
Speaker 2: to do that and flip it down the stretch. This
Speaker 2: feels like the Tiger's last window and trading Schoogle when
Speaker 2: you're technically still competing right now is a really tough
Speaker 2: look for this team, for Scott Harris, who again they
Speaker 2: were the favorites.
Speaker 1: To win the division.
Speaker 2: But you also on the flip side, have to say, Okay,
Speaker 2: if we're not going to bring if we're not going
Speaker 2: to sign school back, if we're gonna let them walk
Speaker 2: in free agency, can we capitalize on anything. I'm in
Speaker 2: the firm believer they should keep them, but we'll see.
Speaker 2: It's really going to depend on the Tigers, especially how
Speaker 2: they play over the next seven days.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a difficult conversation. You know, if I'm putting myself,
Speaker 3: you know, putting my Tiger's hat on here. Yeah, you
Speaker 3: have the fan base angle of it, for sure, but
Speaker 3: you also have the fact, like you mentioned, maybe it's
Speaker 3: a hard resign in the off season. You don't know
Speaker 3: if Trek Scoogle even wants to be there beyond this year.
Speaker 3: Of course, they had the debacle a little bit. I'm
Speaker 3: gonna call it a debacle, the fact that they took
Speaker 3: their two time cy Young Award winner two arbitration to
Speaker 3: a hearing that was not exactly you know, pretty it was.
Speaker 3: It was a little bit of a public bumbling there.
Speaker 3: I don't think he's very active in wanting to be there,
Speaker 3: is very open to wanting to be back with the Tigers. Obviously,
Speaker 3: right now everything is focused on him, you know, being
Speaker 3: the ace of this team, leading them to a postseason
Speaker 3: birth if all goes well. But you know, I'm pretty
Speaker 3: sure there's gonna be a lot of teams lined up
Speaker 3: with a lot of money and don't have the kind
Speaker 3: of baggage that come with the Tigers side of it,
Speaker 3: you know. Beyond that, I kind of lost my train
Speaker 3: of thought there locked in for justice this morning. Sorry,
Speaker 3: it has been a hell of a morning so far.
Speaker 3: But yeah, you know, let's let's focus on the Dodger
Speaker 3: side of it. They have you always have a need,
Speaker 3: don't necessarily, I guess you have a want. You don't
Speaker 3: have a need. But getting back to it, Ken, Ken
Speaker 3: Rothal and Will Salmon, who you penned your column with
Speaker 3: talking about a little bit yesterday the what the Tigers
Speaker 3: are looking for in terms of controllable pitching. Em It
Speaker 3: Shean was a name that was mentioned in there. I
Speaker 3: mean me trading she and I'm kind of okay and
Speaker 3: moving Shean if you are getting somebody that just brings
Speaker 3: the top of that rotation to a different level there.
Speaker 3: But yeah, what are your thoughts about this this kind
Speaker 3: of column here? And I'll work on locking myself back in.
Speaker 2: Look, it's an off day. We're just trying to survive.
Speaker 2: I'm on like day eleven on the road. I'm surprised
Speaker 2: I even made it back to New York.
Speaker 1: So it's okay.
Speaker 2: Everyone just grant Clint a little bit of peace in
Speaker 2: the comments. Let's talk a little bit about controllable pitching, right,
Speaker 2: because this is not just a Tiger's Dodger or specific need.
Speaker 2: Any team that's selling and looking to capitalize at the
Speaker 2: trade deadline is looking to capitalize on starting pitching that's
Speaker 2: controllable for multiple years. Because what is the hardest to
Speaker 2: acquire at the deadline or to acquire at the off
Speaker 2: season of the deadline, it's starting pitching. What's the hardest
Speaker 2: to develop, what's the hardest to sustain, it's all starting pitching.
Speaker 2: So with that is why we look at the deadline
Speaker 2: and we look at top pitching prospects or guys like Emmett,
Speaker 2: she and the fours five sixes in a rotation, because
Speaker 2: every selling team wants to capitalize on the premium that
Speaker 2: is starting pitching. So certainly the Dodgers don't kind of
Speaker 2: trade Justin Rabuski at me at any point in the
Speaker 2: season because of what he's done. If there's one name
Speaker 2: right now that the Dodgers could part with and you
Speaker 2: can make the argument they don't need him down the stretch,
Speaker 2: it's Shean.
Speaker 1: But I do think that there's there's more to in
Speaker 1: lock with Emmett there.
Speaker 2: I know it's then a frustrating season to this point
Speaker 2: because it's just felt like the same start over and
Speaker 2: over again, and I know he's coming back from a
Speaker 2: significant surgery and you're just not quite sure how Arms
Speaker 2: bounced back from there, so maybe that's why he's been
Speaker 2: voted in this conversation. He is certainly someone the Dodgers
Speaker 2: at this moment in time, when you look at who's
Speaker 2: coming back from the eel and who they're projected to have,
Speaker 2: makes sense to be in those conversations. But this is
Speaker 2: not just a the Tigers want controllable pitching. This is
Speaker 2: something that any any team selling that the deadline is
Speaker 2: going to want, the Angels, the Giants, the Rockies, because again,
Speaker 2: it's the hardest thing to develop, it's the hardest thing
Speaker 2: to sustain, and it's always the most expensive to acquire.
Speaker 1: Would it make sense for a potential trade for.
Speaker 2: The Dodgers and the Tigers, Yes, I guess, But as
Speaker 2: we've discussed for the whole show and basically the whole month,
Speaker 2: there's nothing here that's substantial that says these two teams
Speaker 2: are definite trade partners. They just make a lot of
Speaker 2: sense on paper, but again, so many different things have
Speaker 2: to go in both clubs well, I guess, and Dodgers
Speaker 2: favor and against the Tiger's favor for this to make
Speaker 2: a match.
Speaker 3: I mentioned that we've mentioned the free agency a bunch
Speaker 3: one lesser kind of thought. You know a reason the
Speaker 3: Dodgers might want to consider being out on schoolble Listen
Speaker 3: his agent, Scott Boris. They don't always get along the Dodgers.
Speaker 3: In Scott Boris, I don't. Maybe they don't always see
Speaker 3: to I. We know bro is going to be out
Speaker 3: there looking for the bag. And the last time I
Speaker 3: could think of a Dodger, you know, Scott Boris client,
Speaker 3: that was a Dodger, that was an impending free agent.
Speaker 3: You think of Max Scherzer. The Dodgers acquired Max Scherzer
Speaker 3: a couple of years ago, twenty twenty one. He was phenomenal.
Speaker 3: He was fantastic, eleven and zero, had an ERA under
Speaker 3: two in the regular season. You get to the postseason,
Speaker 3: he you know, he ends up closing out the the
Speaker 3: NLDS against the Giants, coming on in relief. Maybe parties
Speaker 3: a little bit too much for a thirty six thirty
Speaker 3: seven year old, but the arm doesn't bounce back as well,
Speaker 3: and then he's unavailable, much to the chagrin of mini fans.
Speaker 3: He is unavailable for a majority of that NLCS against
Speaker 3: the eventual World Series champion Atlanta Braves and Freddie Freeman.
Speaker 3: Uh Dodgers legend there. Do you think there's any anything
Speaker 3: there where there's like some lingering. I don't know, Like
Speaker 3: I wouldn't call it a resentment, but is that a
Speaker 3: factor where the Dodgers are looking at the Dodgers look
Speaker 3: at all angles and I'm looking at a Scott Boris
Speaker 3: client and get I get worried about him, rightfully, so
Speaker 3: protecting you know, that left shoulder there that's gonna make
Speaker 3: him a lot of money, and maybe not being as
Speaker 3: much of a workhorse as somebody with some job secure
Speaker 3: in the postseason.
Speaker 2: You know, I can't speak on Schuster because I was
Speaker 2: in here for that. I do think Schooble, we've seen
Speaker 2: that he is a competitor. He's also about to be
Speaker 2: a free agent and can make life changing money. Scott
Speaker 2: Boris is the most powerful agent in the game for
Speaker 2: a reason. I don't want to ever insinuate that he's
Speaker 2: instructing or the Dodgers are instructing anything behind the scenes.
Speaker 2: I think it's just something to be cautious of when
Speaker 2: the Dodgers go into pursuing any deal. Is what's just
Speaker 2: going to look like come October, Because again, they're not
Speaker 2: looking for regular season reinforcements, all right, They're not looking
Speaker 2: for someone in the rotation to just kind of add
Speaker 2: some length, unless something happens to smell our glass now,
Speaker 2: and then we're having a whole different conversation about what
Speaker 2: that looks like. If the Dodgers are going to go
Speaker 2: out and spend big at the deadline, which again they
Speaker 2: don't want to do, They really don't want to do.
Speaker 1: But if they are, they're.
Speaker 2: Going to go get an arm that impacts their odds
Speaker 2: for October to make it better. So if there's any
Speaker 2: and I'm not saying this at all about school because
Speaker 2: I don't think that's true, but they're not going to
Speaker 2: go into any hesitation with someone. They're like, Okay, he
Speaker 2: might not be ready for October. That's the only thing
Speaker 2: the Dodgers are trading for. Does this person make our
Speaker 2: team better in October. They're not chasing the regular season
Speaker 2: record win total. All they're chasing is the first round
Speaker 2: by and making sure that when playoffs start on October,
Speaker 2: first second, whatever it is, they're at full strength and
Speaker 2: any potential acquisition they made in August made them better
Speaker 2: for October, not the eight weeks leading up to it.
Speaker 3: The good thing. Also, if the Dodgers do, let's say,
Speaker 3: acquire Derek Scoople and there is a concern that I
Speaker 3: just laid out there where maybe he's not quite available,
Speaker 3: they don't need him to, you know, in the way
Speaker 3: that they needed Max Scherzer and Walker Buehler in that
Speaker 3: twenty twenty one postseason Julio odious and all. That they
Speaker 3: have more talent, more depth, they are better equipped to
Speaker 3: hopefully will knock on Wood here to have four guys
Speaker 3: be ready to go, and he just be the you know,
Speaker 3: if all goes well game one starter, maybe he's starting
Speaker 3: two games in the series and you know, picks up
Speaker 3: on game two or game three in the World Series. Again,
Speaker 3: this is this is this is the only this is like,
Speaker 3: this is such a Dodger problem. Only the Dodgers have
Speaker 3: these kind of problems where it's like, uh, should we
Speaker 3: go out there and just go get another ace when
Speaker 3: you know they have some guys.
Speaker 1: Yeah, four already. Yeah, But this is like the reality
Speaker 1: of where we are right.
Speaker 2: We have to create hypothetical situations here because we don't
Speaker 2: even know what the trademarket looks like.
Speaker 1: And I'm looking let me pull up the standings.
Speaker 2: There are so many teams right in that little bubble
Speaker 2: three or four games above five hundred in the NL,
Speaker 2: right out right at five hundred in the ALE, where
Speaker 2: one week of play is going to dictate if they're
Speaker 2: buyers or sellers. And they're most likely going to be
Speaker 2: soft buyers and soft sellers because and this is a
Speaker 2: bigger problem for the deadline. Expanded playoffs have made it
Speaker 2: so if you are a eighty five, eighty six, eighty
Speaker 2: seven win team and you sneak in that six spot, all.
Speaker 1: Bets are off.
Speaker 2: I've covered a Cardinals team that looks really really strong
Speaker 2: to get balanced by two games at the six seed
Speaker 2: in Philly. The Dodgers had their fair share, you know,
Speaker 2: they come out on top a lot of controversy based
Speaker 2: on just seating in general. It's why they're looking for
Speaker 2: the buy. Even now they've won back to back titles
Speaker 2: and they're like this is or and for the buy.
Speaker 2: So each team is playing for something different. These middle
Speaker 2: teams are just playing to get in. So for the
Speaker 2: next seven days again, this trade deadline is on August
Speaker 2: third of Monday, which is weird six pm Eastern three
Speaker 2: pm Pacific. Map of Heart so much it can happen
Speaker 2: within the next ten days. That's going to dictate who
Speaker 2: is even available on the market, who's not. Our team's
Speaker 2: going to do a bunch of this or a bunch
Speaker 2: of that and then combine it together, and we're all
Speaker 2: just kind of talking in circles. It's maddening. It's maddening
Speaker 2: to be a reporter right now. But fans want answers,
Speaker 2: and they deserve answers. They're just not available yet because
Speaker 2: execs don't even know what's going on. I had a
Speaker 2: conversation with the exec the other week in New York
Speaker 2: and he's just like, Yeah, we're all just checking in
Speaker 2: and saying the same things to each other every single day.
Speaker 2: That's kind of what my life has felt like the
Speaker 2: last two weeks. I would say around this time, maybe
Speaker 2: a week from now, when we do our Thursday show,
Speaker 2: we're having a completely different discussion because we're just going
Speaker 2: to simply know more.
Speaker 1: But right now, we're kind of in a holding pattern.
Speaker 2: Outside of the Mets and the Blue Jays have recently
Speaker 2: emerged as probable sellers, I'm not even sure which sellers,
Speaker 2: and the Giants, I guess have pieces contending teams that
Speaker 2: even want.
Speaker 3: Yeah, every reason wants Schooble. If you guys want Errek Schooble,
Speaker 3: you better hope the Tigers do real bad. Still, there's
Speaker 3: a lot of uphill battle for that to even happen,
Speaker 3: and every other team is going to be in the
Speaker 3: mix because everybody feels like they're in there. But yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: I know. I grow tired of this kind of stuff too.
Speaker 3: Give us a week and then give us four more
Speaker 3: days after that, and then we're done, and then we
Speaker 3: can look at all, right, how is this team going
Speaker 3: to stack up and get themselves ready for October baseball?
Speaker 3: Mostly good conversation there. I did my part. Eventually you
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Speaker 3: to be a part of that, which our first one
Speaker 3: was a really really good time. Before we do that, though,
Speaker 3: just let it eat on all the updates on the
Speaker 3: off the eye out because there's a lot of things
Speaker 3: that happened. Will Smith to the sixty day shouldn't really
Speaker 3: mean anything, Shoeheo Toni still threw a bullpen on his
Speaker 3: start day despite being pulled from the rotation. And then
Speaker 3: we got some plakes now Edwin Diaz and Key Key
Speaker 3: Hernandez timeline updates.
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's just wrapid fire through this.
Speaker 2: Will Smith transferred to the sixty day that was simply
Speaker 2: transactional to clearest spot on the roster. The earliest he
Speaker 2: can return is August fifth. Now because of that sixty
Speaker 2: day transfer, the Dodge don't expected him back until the
Speaker 2: middle of August at the earliest.
Speaker 1: So no harm, no foul there.
Speaker 2: Choeo Tani threw a bullpen thirty ish pitches yesterday at
Speaker 2: Citizens Bank Park.
Speaker 1: Reports from Mark Fire and Connor mcguinnis.
Speaker 2: Were thumbs up, all good Showeo Toni was not available
Speaker 2: to speak after the game yesterday, so hopefully we'll have
Speaker 2: be able to hear from him over the weekend to
Speaker 2: see where he's at. But obviously a good sign that
Speaker 2: he's going in there and throwing a bullpen. It was
Speaker 2: not a fastball only bullpen. It was your straight up,
Speaker 2: like in between starts bullpen that a starter would normally throw.
Speaker 2: Still no timetable for when he could return to the
Speaker 2: mound as a starter, but he is standled for another
Speaker 2: bullpen I believe Saturday at City Field.
Speaker 1: So I again, this makes the most sense. Just rest him.
Speaker 2: There's no reason to rush him back at the moment,
Speaker 2: especially with an off day today and an off day Monday.
Speaker 2: Dodgers can be strategic with their.
Speaker 1: Schedule down with triple A bake.
Speaker 2: Snell will start Friday against the Rivercats in Sacramento. I
Speaker 2: believe that's going to be three innings, around forty five pitches.
Speaker 2: The Dodgers are going to get him to five inning,
Speaker 2: seventy five pitches, no if sands or butts this time
Speaker 2: before they activate him off the il again.
Speaker 1: That puts him back.
Speaker 2: At a return right around August er, the trade deadline.
Speaker 2: What a coincidence. And then Edwin Diaz and Pique Hernandez
Speaker 2: there is a chance both make their along way to
Speaker 2: Dodger returns. On Tuesday, July twenty eighth, the first day
Speaker 2: of the Dodgers' next home stand against the Mariners. Edwin
Speaker 2: Diaz is going to throw the second of his back
Speaker 2: to back today for OKC.
Speaker 1: He's off Friday.
Speaker 2: We'll throw again Saturday, travel back Sunday, re evaluation with
Speaker 2: the club on Monday in La all goes well, trumpets
Speaker 2: in the ninth inning on Tuesday.
Speaker 1: Key K Let's see day. Still Thursday, Thursday.
Speaker 2: Still on track, still on track for his declared timeline
Speaker 2: of July twenty eighth, as well, will monitor that accordingly.
Speaker 2: But two big boots for the club should be back
Speaker 2: by the start of the next home standfal goes well.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm really looking forward to getting Keyk back. We
Speaker 3: know he is the the vibes above replacement guy. I
Speaker 3: think just getting I mean, at this point, Alex Freeland
Speaker 3: is just wasting time at the major league level, collecting
Speaker 3: a nicer paycheck for sure. But Key K immediately, you know,
Speaker 3: play him some second base, play him left field, you know,
Speaker 3: maybe give Tayo a little bit of a blow or
Speaker 3: just a mental reset to get that swing going again. Yeah,
Speaker 3: nobody else said it a jillion times. Nobody else gets
Speaker 3: to get these guys back. Edwin Diaz is that's insane
Speaker 3: to add to this bullpen, Like going from land and
Speaker 3: Neck to Edwin Diaz.
Speaker 1: Is just yeah, the smallest, the smallest improvement.
Speaker 3: Yeah, with the all due respect of course to Land
Speaker 3: and NAC again, we had question I can't even say.
Speaker 3: So we had our friend Richie ask a bunch of
Speaker 3: questions in our YouTube members, which I appreciate, you know,
Speaker 3: Richie playing along with us. So there's there's various amounts.
Speaker 3: I'm not going to ask them all, but I think
Speaker 3: we got an easy soft toss for you to start
Speaker 3: us out. Richie had asked and I wasn't prepared to
Speaker 3: to pop them on the screen here, but asking you
Speaker 3: which press box has the best food spread? And did
Speaker 3: you end up crushing that the cheese steak there in Philly?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I did, I did.
Speaker 2: I can't ever read a whole one though, so let
Speaker 2: I have a very nice frie that will like saw
Speaker 2: off part of his for me.
Speaker 1: So that was really nice.
Speaker 2: The best food it really depends what you're into. But
Speaker 2: actually Steven Nelson and I had a chicken tender rankings,
Speaker 2: so we're gonna go Yankees Nationals. That's like the st
Speaker 2: tire one and two because not just for like texture
Speaker 2: and dipping sauce collection, but also there in the press box,
Speaker 2: so like you have to take five steps. So accessibility
Speaker 2: to get to these chicken trips are on there. San
Speaker 2: Francisco has some good ones, but you have to leave
Speaker 2: the press box, so they dock some points there and
Speaker 2: then rest and peace of Oapen Coliseum also has some
Speaker 2: good ones. Actually, Philly great ice cream legendary Franky two scoops.
Speaker 2: He's been there for forever. He scoops all the ice
Speaker 2: cream out there. San Diego has great concessions. Look, obviously,
Speaker 2: when I go to the park, I'm spending a lot
Speaker 2: of time watching baseball and not at all and what
Speaker 2: I should be eating that day. But if you ever
Speaker 2: want a power rankings on press box, food and concessions,
Speaker 2: I'm your girl, got you, guys.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I really want to, Like, I think
Speaker 3: we need to build out use AI to build out
Speaker 3: yours and Nelly's you know chicken tendy tier list there
Speaker 3: because that's important stuff, you know, noticeably absent and rightfully
Speaker 3: so on that list of yours. Dodger Stadium press.
Speaker 2: Box sound's fresh, But I actually are we allowed to
Speaker 2: you let us yet?
Speaker 1: Are we allowed to you? Like?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. We be Me and the missus
Speaker 3: had led us last night. We you know, so far,
Speaker 3: so good. Shout out al Poyo Loco not a sponsor,
Speaker 3: but they did not poison us, and God was it good.
Speaker 3: I didn't realize your boy would mislet us that much.
Speaker 3: Another one from Richie Shocker. Another one for us is,
Speaker 3: besides living out of a suitcase on the road, the
Speaker 3: best MLB city to visit? Which city you know you
Speaker 3: don't want to see on the schedule during a heat wave.
Speaker 3: I guess there's two parts there, but let's well keep
Speaker 3: it positive. What's your favorite city to visit? And it can,
Speaker 3: you know, include all the things. Friends are there, enemies
Speaker 3: are there, beautiful ballpark, beautiful scenery around the ballpark, good bars,
Speaker 3: all that kind of stuff. What's the favorite?
Speaker 1: It's Chicago for me.
Speaker 2: I did a lot of Cardinals Cubs, like weekends at Wrigley,
Speaker 2: and the good people at Wrigley Buila really know how
Speaker 2: to get after it. I love the vibe there and
Speaker 2: Chicago in the summertime.
Speaker 1: It's it's unbeatable.
Speaker 2: Obviously, I love going to San Diego, San Francisco, Sea
Speaker 2: friends and family, but like those we see those parks
Speaker 2: all the time.
Speaker 1: So Chicago. I do like Philly.
Speaker 2: As a post He's tell and I'm a big Milwaukee enthusiast.
Speaker 1: Maybe because it's close to Chicago. But you can really
Speaker 1: have a lot of fun in Milwaukee if you know
Speaker 1: where to go.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, Culver's for me, but I can get Culvers
Speaker 3: and in a lot of different spots. But also I'm
Speaker 3: pretty sure you can get better butterburgers and cheese curds
Speaker 3: elsewhere in the Milwaukee side of things. Richie actually had
Speaker 3: a question for me and had nothing to do with
Speaker 3: the man Cave. Luckily, no man Cave questions for you here,
Speaker 3: but I want you to play along with this one.
Speaker 3: Besides the pitching side of the game, that you enjoy,
Speaker 3: what part of the game really fascinates you. He's saying
Speaker 3: he loves the game within the game, you know, moves
Speaker 3: to be made, all of that, like the cat and
Speaker 3: mouse game. Yeah, I've for me, it's as I've talked
Speaker 3: about for years doing this. I love the story of
Speaker 3: a season and how different chapters we're talking about, Oh,
Speaker 3: this team is crap, the manager doesn't know what he's doing,
Speaker 3: all this kind of stuff. Thankfully we don't have as
Speaker 3: much of the manager doesn't know what he's doing, but
Speaker 3: that kind of stuff, it's about just at the end
Speaker 3: of the season, what that story looks like ideally, you know,
Speaker 3: you end the book with and it's funny. I'm not
Speaker 3: a reader, but I know how I just am not
Speaker 3: a reader. At the end of the story, you hope
Speaker 3: the you know, hero prevails and they win a World
Speaker 3: Series and all of that. But I'm I'm a big
Speaker 3: fan of just that storyline. And I don't think you
Speaker 3: get that in any other sport. You don't get that
Speaker 3: in football. You don't get that in basketball hockey. You
Speaker 3: don't get one hundred and sixty two games over one
Speaker 3: hundred and eighty some odd days of you know, living
Speaker 3: day in day out with these people all different ways.
Speaker 3: You a lot more than me. Woo. But you know,
Speaker 3: watching this team, watching just baseball teams develop and evolve
Speaker 3: over the course of a season, that's fun to me.
Speaker 3: What do you have any thoughts on this? You know,
Speaker 3: what you enjoy outside of just like the main factors
Speaker 3: of a.
Speaker 2: Game, I think the biggest and this came up in
Speaker 2: that second game against Philly with that either if you're
Speaker 2: a Philly fan, horrible game, any double play, Dodgers fan, wonderful, the.
Speaker 1: Strategy that gets a team to the ninth inning.
Speaker 2: Both and it's completely different from manager to manager about
Speaker 2: what they're looking at. So being able to sit down
Speaker 2: with Dave Roberts, you know, off the record, behind the scenes,
Speaker 2: no cameras rolling, and hear you know, his decision making
Speaker 2: for why Tanner Scott was going to go for a
Speaker 2: five out save, or why it was Jack Dryer up
Speaker 2: and garter Bus up and when they got up, and
Speaker 2: why the workload to why Alex Bescio was down. The
Speaker 2: kind of complicated mess and puzzle pieces that managers have
Speaker 2: to deal with and pitching coaches just to get through
Speaker 2: a game without screwing their bullpen for the next two
Speaker 2: to three It's so fascinating because and I wish there
Speaker 2: was a better way to show the ripple effects of
Speaker 2: overusing a reliever and how it can affect your whole
Speaker 2: series and maybe even the next one at the extense
Speaker 2: of winning one game. So to hear the managers figure
Speaker 2: this out in real time. I've had lots of different
Speaker 2: managers and lots of different conversations about bullpen usage because
Speaker 2: it's the thing that fans fixate on the most. And
Speaker 2: that makes sense, right, because if you're bullpen comes in
Speaker 2: and you blow the game, you're blaming the relievers. So
Speaker 2: there's always so much controversy over what reliever is in
Speaker 2: at what time, But there is so much more behind
Speaker 2: the scenes than what the splits might say or what
Speaker 2: the line scoring might say. And that was something that
Speaker 2: I had to learn quickly as a rookie reporter because
Speaker 2: I just didn't know it. And to be able to
Speaker 2: learn from Mike Schild, alimrmel Skipschmaker, Dave Roberts on how
Speaker 2: to manage a bullpen. That stuff is so so nitty
Speaker 2: gritty behind the scenes. I wish we spent more time
Speaker 2: on it. Maybe we will this postseason.
Speaker 1: Who knows.
Speaker 3: Yeah, particularly with Dave and watching, you know, for me
Speaker 3: watching you know, eleven years now of evolution and him
Speaker 3: managing a game, managing a bullpen first head full of
Speaker 3: years were tough. You look at the postseason. There are decisions.
Speaker 3: It's not all on him. You got at some point
Speaker 3: as a pitcher, as a player into a game and
Speaker 3: not you know, I will to say, do your job,
Speaker 3: but you know, some decisions that we'll say lead to frustration,
Speaker 3: anger amongst the fan base. But just watching that evolution
Speaker 3: up through you know into twenty twenty, you know, no
Speaker 3: one when to hold him, no one when to fold him,
Speaker 3: no one when to not use Kenley Jansen, all that
Speaker 3: kind of stuff. Knowing how to bridge a gap, knowing
Speaker 3: how to trust your guys as well. We saw in
Speaker 3: twenty twenty four him put his hand on the chest
Speaker 3: of Blake trying is like you got this, like like
Speaker 3: Blake wanted it, got out of that ending, trusting Walker
Speaker 3: Buehler to come in do something he hadn't done close
Speaker 3: out that particular World Series game in game five. That's
Speaker 3: the type of stuff that four years ago Dave might
Speaker 3: not have done. He might have stuck to the script,
Speaker 3: stuck to the game plan, gone to his lefty ear
Speaker 3: whatever it is, and or go to Dave, sorry, go
Speaker 3: to Clayton Kershaw and relief in game five of the
Speaker 3: NLTS and then we're all upset and mad and all
Speaker 3: that kind of stuff. Or one more quick one because
Speaker 3: we actually had a live question here b L Boyd,
Speaker 3: who sits in the postseason for KIK with Tayo and
Speaker 3: Tucker being the only candidates that they split times sitting.
Speaker 3: I think, and this is something you know, we talked
Speaker 3: to Dave Roberts last year as Taoskar was struggling and
Speaker 3: They always say that it's a meritocracy, you know, like
Speaker 3: if you're playing well, you're going to get a chance
Speaker 3: to play. I think Key k could find his way
Speaker 3: into left field if Tao hasn't figured it out, because
Speaker 3: you get plus defense, you get better speed, and you
Speaker 3: get keek tober. That's my kind of thought. How do
Speaker 3: you think something like that could shake out?
Speaker 2: Things have to go seriously wrong for Kyle Tucker to
Speaker 2: be a platoon player in the postseason. They're not paying
Speaker 2: him sixty million dollars to rock the bench. Tayo a
Speaker 2: different story. It's been a rough return for Taskar, Hernandez
Speaker 2: and I mean hit they are about the same levels
Speaker 2: of production as Kyle Tucker. But this has been a
Speaker 2: season long thing for Kyle, and he's because of the contract,
Speaker 2: going to get more leash. And it's not like the
Speaker 2: Dodgers are struggling without Kyle Tucker hitting.
Speaker 1: They're doing just fine.
Speaker 2: It's just frustrating from a fan perspective when you go
Speaker 2: out and your big marquie free agent signing has not
Speaker 2: put up be a big agent marquee numbers.
Speaker 1: It's I always find it a little funny to.
Speaker 2: Hypothesize, but something's going to look like two months from now,
Speaker 2: because baseball changes like this. It's a long season that
Speaker 2: we think like drown like drags on, but it changes quick.
Speaker 2: So there's there might be situation come October where that's
Speaker 2: not even a possibility.
Speaker 1: But if we're gonna play.
Speaker 2: The hypotheticals, Tao is going to be the bench or
Speaker 2: not the bench guy, excuse me, the platoon guy. You
Speaker 2: can see Key K come in. He has the affinity
Speaker 2: for the postseason. Kyle Tucker, unless it looks like Andy
Speaker 2: Pa has post season twenty twenty five, is going to
Speaker 2: be out there in right field every single day, and
Speaker 2: even then he's probably still going to get the bulk
Speaker 2: of the reps. I just can't see the Dodgers platooning
Speaker 2: him Tao. Different story and Clinton, you can make the
Speaker 2: argument that with key K back, they are so they
Speaker 2: might want to start that platoon earlier than Gott.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's weird with a you know, right hand, right
Speaker 3: hand platoon, but at some point, you know, it's got
Speaker 3: to be about who's performing. It's it needs to be
Speaker 3: a performance based job. We got a little bit more
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Speaker 3: with us here at Dodgers Territory for the stretch run
Speaker 3: of the season. Very much appreciate that we've looked at
Speaker 3: the standings. We've talked about the standings a whole bunch.
Speaker 3: What I want to do is look at the calendar
Speaker 3: right here and I just mentioned it there Dodgers back
Speaker 3: home against Seattle. But more importantly, well next week, more
Speaker 3: importantly you got three more on the road, the Yankees
Speaker 3: big game on Saturday, where that is a Fox game.
Speaker 3: Our friend Ken Rosenthal will be there, Yamamoto, and I
Speaker 3: believe Nolan McLean. That is a fun one, absolute fun one.
Speaker 3: And we've got McLean, who's in the conversation for NL
Speaker 3: Rookie of the Year. What are you looking forward to
Speaker 3: with this particular series against the Mets.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Fox gets a redemption after their primetime Yamamoto Cam
Speaker 2: Schlitzer got rained out and they got a bullpen game
Speaker 2: from both games instead, or that was the ESPN game
Speaker 2: or not even ESPN NBC Quinn, I'm struggling to I
Speaker 2: think we just wrap this up.
Speaker 1: But what I'm looking at, Look, this.
Speaker 2: Was supposed to be much bigger series than it's gonna
Speaker 2: end up being because we all thought the Mets were
Speaker 2: going to be pretty good.
Speaker 1: Silly, Yes we should know better, but I.
Speaker 2: Think it's a big, big test on Friday for Roki Susaki,
Speaker 2: who came out against the Yankees just firing triple digits.
Speaker 2: We're really in on like big glove controversy. Is it
Speaker 2: actually bigger? Is it helping with tipping pitches? I think
Speaker 2: that's hilarious. If so, why fix the problem when we
Speaker 2: can just slap a bandit on it, get a bigger glove?
Speaker 1: I love that. We love an easy fix.
Speaker 2: So if Rokey Susaki can come back out and pump
Speaker 2: a hundred consistently against the Mets, I am almost there,
Speaker 2: getting back on my Roki redemption tour. Not that I
Speaker 2: ever touted him. I totally totally did not go back
Speaker 2: on my word.
Speaker 1: But that's that's what I'm excited about.
Speaker 2: And then I guess just to see how show Hey
Speaker 2: progresses through the weekend, because that'll be pretty telling, big
Speaker 2: homestand coming up with the Mariners and the Red Sox
Speaker 2: who have surged right back in it. But yeah, I'm
Speaker 2: looking at the pitching and Yamamoto. Here's my hot take
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Speaker 2: our talk for the Dodger that has the best chance
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