WEBVTT - Patriots Catch-22 11/9: Three-step Plan to Fix the Offense, Evaluating Mac Jones' Performance, Buying the Defense? 0:00:03.400 --> 0:00:06.760 This is the Patriots Catch twenty two Podcasts with Evan 0:00:06.840 --> 0:00:11.320 Lazar and Alex Barth. I'm in Lazar Lazar, Well, everybody 0:00:11.360 --> 0:00:15.360 nailed it. Joined us always buy our Bark damage match. 0:00:17.680 --> 0:00:21.360 Here is Evan Lazar and Alex Barr. Band is back together. 0:00:23.560 --> 0:00:25.960 Hello everybody, and welcome into a new edition of the 0:00:26.000 --> 0:00:29.400 Patriots Catch twenty two podcast right here on Patriots dot Com. 0:00:29.400 --> 0:00:33.680 I'm Evan Lazar, joined us Always by Alex Barth, and uh, 0:00:33.800 --> 0:00:37.080 we do have some construction right outside. I was gonna say, 0:00:37.080 --> 0:00:42.080 I was very concious. Definitely some drilling. We're we're working 0:00:42.120 --> 0:00:46.839 on it, um, so apologies for that. But I want 0:00:46.880 --> 0:00:49.400 to start with looking back on to Sunday, and then 0:00:49.400 --> 0:00:51.400 we're gonna look ahead and talk about some of the 0:00:51.440 --> 0:00:53.920 big picture stuff that I I bet it is being 0:00:53.960 --> 0:00:56.520 talked about down the hall, honestly, about where they go 0:00:56.680 --> 0:00:59.000 after the buy and what they can do these next 0:00:59.000 --> 0:01:01.040 couple of days and use these days to kind of 0:01:01.080 --> 0:01:03.920 self scout and make some system. I think what he's 0:01:04.080 --> 0:01:07.360 scheme tweaks or scheme adjustments, I think is what Belichick 0:01:07.400 --> 0:01:10.440 called it yesterday. So there's some of that going on, certainly, 0:01:10.480 --> 0:01:13.880 But I want to start with Sunday and also talk 0:01:13.920 --> 0:01:17.880 about maca in a general sense as well moving forward, 0:01:17.920 --> 0:01:21.360 because Alex, I think I've definitely come off on the 0:01:21.920 --> 0:01:25.080 mac apologist side lately, right. I think the rest of 0:01:25.080 --> 0:01:27.880 this thing around him has really torn him down. And 0:01:28.319 --> 0:01:30.760 the main reason why I feel that way is because 0:01:31.840 --> 0:01:36.160 his strengths coming in the draft, his strengths last year, processing, 0:01:36.319 --> 0:01:38.640 in accuracy down the field, right, Like those are his 0:01:38.680 --> 0:01:42.600 two calling cards. When those things just regress out of nowhere, 0:01:42.840 --> 0:01:47.640 like Mac Jones has been a smart, cerebral quarterback probably 0:01:47.680 --> 0:01:49.840 his entire life, right, Like you probably would have to 0:01:49.880 --> 0:01:52.280 go back to like Pop worn or to find like 0:01:52.320 --> 0:01:56.880 a time when Mac Jones was not seeing the field 0:01:57.000 --> 0:01:58.880 or not getting the ball where it needed to go, 0:01:59.080 --> 0:02:01.280 or like things like that, like how many you watched 0:02:01.320 --> 0:02:03.640 him a ton of Alabama? How many times did that 0:02:03.680 --> 0:02:06.720 happen at Alabama? Like he didn't, right, And it didn't 0:02:06.720 --> 0:02:09.160 happen last year either, like the struggles that I saw 0:02:09.520 --> 0:02:12.320 from Mac Jones and after the by last year along 0:02:12.360 --> 0:02:13.920 with the rest of the team. But I thought what 0:02:14.200 --> 0:02:18.160 we saw with Mac was more physical limitations, right, Like 0:02:18.240 --> 0:02:21.720 he just doesn't have the rocket arm to fit the 0:02:21.760 --> 0:02:24.720 ball twenty five yards down the field between two zone 0:02:24.760 --> 0:02:26.919 defenders that are closing on his receiver, right like, and 0:02:27.040 --> 0:02:29.160 teams I think caught onto some of those things, and 0:02:29.200 --> 0:02:32.519 we're adjusting to take away the short and intermediate stuff 0:02:32.520 --> 0:02:34.680 and force the ball and funnel the ball out towards 0:02:34.720 --> 0:02:37.760 the sideline. And that was the type of regression that 0:02:37.960 --> 0:02:42.079 I was expecting from Mac Jones, was defense is adjusting 0:02:42.120 --> 0:02:45.440 to what he's good at, recognizing that he doesn't have 0:02:45.520 --> 0:02:49.440 this the physical physical tools, excuse me, of a Josh 0:02:49.480 --> 0:02:52.760 Allen or a Justin Herbert or Patrick Mahomes and forcing 0:02:52.840 --> 0:02:55.440 him to be that type of player as best as 0:02:55.480 --> 0:03:00.040 they can schematically on defense, When he regresses, when his 0:03:00.080 --> 0:03:04.840 strengths regress, that points to me to what's going on 0:03:04.880 --> 0:03:07.200 around him, right Like. You don't just get to that 0:03:07.320 --> 0:03:10.080 point on his own. And when we watched the tape 0:03:10.080 --> 0:03:12.960 against the Colts, to me, this was the worst decision 0:03:13.000 --> 0:03:15.640 making game that Mac Jones has ever played with the Patriots. 0:03:15.680 --> 0:03:17.160 And I know he didn't even turn the ball over. 0:03:17.360 --> 0:03:19.440 So just like, think about that for a second, right 0:03:19.520 --> 0:03:24.359 just in terms of pure processing, where he's supposed to 0:03:24.400 --> 0:03:26.480 go with the football, when he's supposed to go there 0:03:26.480 --> 0:03:31.440 with the football between the ears stuff, whatever you want 0:03:31.440 --> 0:03:36.240 to call it. Processing field vision. It was as bad 0:03:36.280 --> 0:03:40.080 as I've ever seen it from him. And that has 0:03:40.160 --> 0:03:44.800 to point in my mind to trust and comfort, like 0:03:44.880 --> 0:03:48.160 his comfort level and what they're doing, what he's being 0:03:48.160 --> 0:03:50.120 asked to do, Like where is he supposed to start 0:03:50.120 --> 0:03:52.480 in the progression? Is he supposed to start to the left, 0:03:52.520 --> 0:03:54.800 to the right, to the middle of the field. What's 0:03:54.800 --> 0:03:57.240 his first read, what's his second read, what's his third, 0:03:57.280 --> 0:03:59.600 what's his you know, where's his check down? Releasing into 0:03:59.600 --> 0:04:02.920 the pad? And like those types of things it has 0:04:03.200 --> 0:04:05.000 it stems from all of that, and then you also 0:04:05.040 --> 0:04:09.040 get into the timing right of he has a three 0:04:09.040 --> 0:04:12.280 step drop here, but we're asking receivers to run rout 0:04:12.360 --> 0:04:15.360 step break at twelve yards down the field. Well, if 0:04:15.360 --> 0:04:17.600 receivers are running vertical routes down the field on the 0:04:17.640 --> 0:04:20.159 three step drop, then that's forcing the quarterback to just 0:04:20.160 --> 0:04:22.360 sit there and hold the ball right, hold the ball 0:04:22.360 --> 0:04:24.120 and hold the ball, and hold the ball and wait 0:04:24.120 --> 0:04:25.680 for guys to get open down the field. So you 0:04:25.680 --> 0:04:27.880 saw a lot of that on this tape as well. 0:04:28.000 --> 0:04:35.760 So his mental processing skills did not They just couldn't 0:04:35.800 --> 0:04:38.479 have gone back to where they couldn't have hit rock 0:04:38.520 --> 0:04:43.040 bottom like this without the whole thing around him being terrible. Now, 0:04:43.200 --> 0:04:46.080 with that being said, he did not play well against 0:04:46.120 --> 0:04:48.080 the Colts on Sunday, And no one is trying to 0:04:48.120 --> 0:04:51.800 sit here and say that mac Jones has been good, right, 0:04:51.880 --> 0:04:56.279 Like he's not been good contest context, it's explaining why 0:04:56.320 --> 0:04:58.520 he looks the way that he does. And I mean 0:04:58.560 --> 0:05:00.320 he talked about his comfort love with what they runn 0:05:00.320 --> 0:05:02.440 how about his comfort level in the pocket? Yeah, he 0:05:02.839 --> 0:05:04.840 doesn't have time, and on the few plays he does, 0:05:05.520 --> 0:05:08.400 he's sitting back there feeling rushed because he feels like 0:05:08.400 --> 0:05:10.280 he's about to get hit in any second because he's 0:05:10.320 --> 0:05:12.800 not used to having that kind of time. So again, 0:05:12.839 --> 0:05:15.000 you know, I think a lot of the macapologist thing, 0:05:15.080 --> 0:05:19.640 Like you said, No, it's explaining what's going on. People 0:05:19.680 --> 0:05:21.720 will say, oh, I knew this was mac Jones. I 0:05:21.760 --> 0:05:23.520 knew he was this guy. Well, then why wasn't he 0:05:23.560 --> 0:05:25.880 this guy last year as a rookie when he had 0:05:25.960 --> 0:05:28.680 less experience? Right? He said, oh, well last year doesn't count, Well, 0:05:28.720 --> 0:05:31.000 then why does this year count so much more than 0:05:31.080 --> 0:05:33.880 last year? Right? It's just adding context and right now 0:05:34.240 --> 0:05:37.040 for a number of reasons. He's not comfortable, and when 0:05:37.080 --> 0:05:40.719 you're not comfortable as a quarterback, you make mistakes because 0:05:40.760 --> 0:05:43.680 you get rushed, you get nervous, and that's what we're 0:05:43.680 --> 0:05:46.280 seeing right now. Yeah, that's the biggest thing I think 0:05:46.320 --> 0:05:48.839 from this last game that really stood out on the 0:05:48.880 --> 0:05:53.200 ALL twenty two was not progressing past the first read 0:05:53.600 --> 0:05:56.719 in the progression right right, and at this stage of 0:05:56.760 --> 0:05:59.680 Mac Jones's career and even in his rookie season, because 0:05:59.720 --> 0:06:02.240 he is a smart passer and he is somebody that 0:06:02.279 --> 0:06:06.000 goes through his reads quickly typically until this year, they 0:06:06.240 --> 0:06:08.840 are having him read full field progressions. He is not 0:06:09.080 --> 0:06:11.680 reading half the field, right, or he's not supposed to 0:06:11.720 --> 0:06:14.240 be reading half the field. But what's happening in a 0:06:14.279 --> 0:06:18.400 lot of these plays is he's only reading like the 0:06:18.480 --> 0:06:21.960 first or second read in the progression and then he's 0:06:22.160 --> 0:06:23.919 kind of goes into panic mode a little bit, right 0:06:23.920 --> 0:06:25.960 because he thinks he's about to get clocked. Because that's 0:06:26.000 --> 0:06:28.000 how it's been this season. Yeah, either he's going to 0:06:28.040 --> 0:06:30.719 be clocked or there's nobody open initially, So now where 0:06:30.760 --> 0:06:32.920 do I go with the football? And it just doesn't 0:06:32.960 --> 0:06:39.520 seem like I have seen recently. Mac Jones go from 0:06:39.600 --> 0:06:42.360 one side of the field to another and hidden receiver 0:06:42.480 --> 0:06:45.120 in rhythm on the second reader on the backside of 0:06:45.160 --> 0:06:47.400 a play or whatever the case may be. And I 0:06:47.440 --> 0:06:50.040 think the number one play that's going around is that 0:06:50.040 --> 0:06:53.960 that Kendrick Bourne pass that he missed. Dan Orlovsky tweeted it, 0:06:54.040 --> 0:06:56.760 I talked about it, but Dard talked about it. So 0:06:56.839 --> 0:07:02.800 you look at that play and the thought process in 0:07:02.839 --> 0:07:05.440 that play is not terrible because the way the safety 0:07:05.560 --> 0:07:09.040 rotation plays out in the back end, He's got a 0:07:09.120 --> 0:07:11.760 one on one matchup with Taekwon Thornton with no safety 0:07:11.800 --> 0:07:15.000 help over the top right, So he's thinking, if Taikwon 0:07:15.040 --> 0:07:17.400 beats to Fan Gilmour here at the line of scrimmage, 0:07:17.720 --> 0:07:19.520 I have a chance for a big play down the 0:07:19.560 --> 0:07:22.240 field with no safety help. Take it out of the 0:07:22.280 --> 0:07:24.760 fact for a second that he's asking his rookie wide 0:07:24.760 --> 0:07:27.000 receiver to go up against a former defensive player of 0:07:27.080 --> 0:07:29.320 the year right and win them one on one matchup. 0:07:29.360 --> 0:07:32.280 Take that out for a second. As soon as Taekwon 0:07:32.320 --> 0:07:35.520 Thornton's covered on the play in the first let's call 0:07:35.560 --> 0:07:38.440 it initial stages of the route right at the release 0:07:38.520 --> 0:07:41.040 and at the beginning or through the stem as he's 0:07:41.040 --> 0:07:45.600 getting vertical up the field and cancel it right, like 0:07:45.640 --> 0:07:48.640 he's not open, like move on to something else. So 0:07:48.680 --> 0:07:50.760 instead he just sits there and holds the ball and 0:07:50.840 --> 0:07:53.240 holds the ball and holds the ball and eventually he 0:07:53.320 --> 0:07:56.360 forces it to remandre on the checkdown and he's covered 0:07:56.400 --> 0:07:59.520 and it's incomplete. On the front side of the play, 0:08:00.160 --> 0:08:02.560 Kendrick Bourden is sitting open, wide open at the sticks 0:08:02.600 --> 0:08:06.360 like this, like, yeah, hello over here, right. What the 0:08:06.360 --> 0:08:09.280 Patriots want him to do or what he should do. 0:08:08.960 --> 0:08:10.840 I'm not gonna say what the Patriots want him to 0:08:10.840 --> 0:08:12.520 do because I don't know, first of all, and second 0:08:12.560 --> 0:08:14.400 of all, I have no idea what they're coaching him 0:08:14.480 --> 0:08:19.160 right now. So what he should be doing there is 0:08:19.840 --> 0:08:23.200 I'm gonna give my guy a chance for half a 0:08:23.240 --> 0:08:26.400 beat a beat to win that one on one. If 0:08:26.400 --> 0:08:29.160 it's not there, I'm gonna go to the front side 0:08:28.880 --> 0:08:32.319 of the formation with the three receiver side, and I'm 0:08:32.320 --> 0:08:34.640 going to just work out that progression. Right. It's a 0:08:34.880 --> 0:08:39.040 it's a sale concept. It's like stick corner vertical right, Yeah, 0:08:39.080 --> 0:08:41.040 I'm just gonna read the progression and make the right throw. 0:08:41.800 --> 0:08:43.880 If he had done that, if he had given Taekwon 0:08:43.920 --> 0:08:46.560 a chance initially in his drop, he looks at it, 0:08:46.600 --> 0:08:49.840 he sees Taekwon come off the line covered going back 0:08:49.880 --> 0:08:52.000 to my right, he would have had the first down. 0:08:52.840 --> 0:08:56.120 But for whatever reason, he's getting frozen on those reads. 0:08:56.120 --> 0:08:58.960 There's a play earlier on in the game where he 0:08:59.000 --> 0:09:01.440 had Hunter Henry open in the flat for a checkdown 0:09:01.960 --> 0:09:04.679 and he's reading the vertical routes and the content is 0:09:04.679 --> 0:09:08.280 actually the same style of play, the same floodplay, and 0:09:08.679 --> 0:09:11.160 he's reading the corner and the vertical and trying to 0:09:11.200 --> 0:09:13.880 throw it past the sticks to Jacobe Myers on third down. 0:09:14.440 --> 0:09:17.640 And by the time he makes a decision to not 0:09:17.720 --> 0:09:21.440 throw the football, he then tries to run instead of 0:09:21.440 --> 0:09:23.240 just checking the ball down a Hunter Henry and he 0:09:23.280 --> 0:09:25.840 takes a sack. Right. So these types of things where 0:09:25.840 --> 0:09:29.320 he's just not progressing past the initial reads and he 0:09:29.360 --> 0:09:32.240 doesn't feel comfortable getting to the front side of a 0:09:32.280 --> 0:09:35.440 play when he starts on the backside, or vice versa. 0:09:35.559 --> 0:09:39.000 This stuff just was not happening during his rookie season. 0:09:39.080 --> 0:09:43.199 This is not mac Jones has hit his physical ceiling 0:09:43.679 --> 0:09:46.120 right and teams are catching on to it. This is 0:09:46.160 --> 0:09:48.400 mac Jones is not seeing the field, which is a 0:09:48.400 --> 0:09:51.200 totally different animal than anything that I expected, as like 0:09:51.240 --> 0:09:53.160 I just never expected us to be here, Like I 0:09:53.200 --> 0:09:58.240 expected us to at least have that feather in our cap, right, right, 0:09:58.360 --> 0:10:00.439 You know, he's an accurate thrower within tw yards of 0:10:00.440 --> 0:10:02.680 the line of scrimmage, and he has good eyes. He 0:10:02.720 --> 0:10:04.720 gets the ball where the ball needs to go. We're 0:10:04.720 --> 0:10:07.800 not there anymore where we've completely aggressed. Yeah, and again 0:10:07.840 --> 0:10:09.640 I think a lot of it is a situation they've 0:10:09.640 --> 0:10:13.199 put him in, right you talk. I heard you guys 0:10:13.200 --> 0:10:16.559 talking on Unfiltered before this about the way they're kind 0:10:16.559 --> 0:10:19.000 of marrying some of the concepts to his responsibilities, some 0:10:19.040 --> 0:10:23.560 of the route concepts his responsibilities if if there's no 0:10:23.720 --> 0:10:27.800 right answer on the play as it's designed, what's the 0:10:27.840 --> 0:10:31.720 read right? Yeah, And it feels it's probably a bit 0:10:31.760 --> 0:10:35.880 of an oversimplification, but you know, essentially reading the field, 0:10:35.880 --> 0:10:37.600 you're looking for the right answer. You have, you have 0:10:37.679 --> 0:10:39.920 your set, the defense is they're set, and somewhere in 0:10:39.920 --> 0:10:43.920 there there's a right answer. Usually it feels like a 0:10:43.920 --> 0:10:46.560 lot of the plate, the the chances he's being given 0:10:46.640 --> 0:10:48.040 right now, there's no right answers. So of course he 0:10:48.080 --> 0:10:51.839 looks flumex. Yeah, I think the other concern and I 0:10:51.880 --> 0:10:55.280 want to I think this is like the most fair 0:10:55.320 --> 0:10:58.280 criticism of him I can give on this. There are 0:10:58.400 --> 0:11:02.839 some throws where quite his accuracy just isn't as good 0:11:02.840 --> 0:11:05.760 as it was. Yeah, And I don't know if that's 0:11:07.040 --> 0:11:09.760 it's it is. I would say, like my take on it, 0:11:09.840 --> 0:11:11.960 I can't. I don't inside his head, so I don't know. 0:11:12.240 --> 0:11:14.319 And my take on it is that this is all related, 0:11:14.360 --> 0:11:17.120 of course. Of course, no, of course, because suddenly, you know, 0:11:17.240 --> 0:11:19.080 especially to half the success he had last year. He's 0:11:19.080 --> 0:11:21.920 been successful his whole career, right right from Alabama, and 0:11:22.320 --> 0:11:27.200 you know, it's all gonna compound. Right if there's plays 0:11:27.200 --> 0:11:29.120 where it's just not there and you can't get it done, 0:11:29.360 --> 0:11:31.360 even if it's not your fault, you're gonna start thinking 0:11:31.360 --> 0:11:34.079 it is or start second guessing yourself, and then when 0:11:34.080 --> 0:11:37.240 you do have those opportunities, that that doubts still there. 0:11:37.240 --> 0:11:39.720 It's that that concept of being sped up is something 0:11:39.720 --> 0:11:41.480 that I've hammered. I think that's what it all comes 0:11:41.480 --> 0:11:44.920 down to. He didn't get any pass protection going back 0:11:44.920 --> 0:11:47.680 to training camp, and it's just completely changed the way 0:11:47.679 --> 0:11:50.680 he sees the game. It's gone from going through the 0:11:50.720 --> 0:11:53.280 progressions and figuring it out and reading the defense because 0:11:53.280 --> 0:11:55.040 now he feels like he doesn't have time to do it, 0:11:55.320 --> 0:11:58.000 to just try to make snap decisions. And now even 0:11:58.040 --> 0:12:00.760 when he does have the time, he's just developed all 0:12:00.760 --> 0:12:03.760 these bad habits because of all the instances when he didn't. Yeah, 0:12:03.840 --> 0:12:06.960 totally fair. And the first read quarterback thing. You usually 0:12:06.960 --> 0:12:10.200 hear about young quarterbacks, but in particular, usually hear about 0:12:10.480 --> 0:12:14.680 young mobile quarterbacks right where their instincts are. If the 0:12:14.720 --> 0:12:17.080 first read isn't there, I'm running. That was the whole 0:12:17.080 --> 0:12:21.400 thing with Justin Fields, right. But luckily for Chicago, Justin 0:12:21.400 --> 0:12:26.440 Fields is an awesome runner. So lately, like against the Patriots, 0:12:27.120 --> 0:12:29.440 he ran all over teams, right like last week against 0:12:29.440 --> 0:12:32.800 Miami's running all over them. So that's you know, the 0:12:32.840 --> 0:12:35.880 other side of this is that Mac Jones in order 0:12:35.960 --> 0:12:39.640 to succeed, needs to be that cerebral pastor like he 0:12:39.679 --> 0:12:42.840 needs to be a high level processor then order to succeed. 0:12:42.960 --> 0:12:44.880 So all this other trickle down stuff he's got to 0:12:44.880 --> 0:12:47.720 figure out. Now. The accuracy thing I think is really 0:12:47.760 --> 0:12:52.600 interesting because as much as I want i'm a quarterback apologist, 0:12:52.640 --> 0:12:55.160 I'm a Mac guy, right, that's where we're at now, 0:12:55.640 --> 0:12:58.480 believe it or not, as much as I want to 0:12:58.520 --> 0:13:03.040 put it on the offensive line and look at these 0:13:03.080 --> 0:13:06.960 two plays and say, there's pressure in his face. His 0:13:07.120 --> 0:13:12.160 line broke down and basically gave him no chance. There 0:13:12.160 --> 0:13:13.840 were two plays in the game that I thought really 0:13:13.840 --> 0:13:18.080 stood out from an accuracy standpoint, where I thought, if 0:13:18.120 --> 0:13:22.280 he's comfortable in the pocket under pressure, he still hits 0:13:22.320 --> 0:13:24.559 these throws. And I think maybe hits these throws last year. 0:13:25.000 --> 0:13:27.440 The first one was the wheel route to Ormandre right 0:13:27.559 --> 0:13:31.679 where it works. It's pick wheel. Taekwon Thorton picks Rmandre's 0:13:31.720 --> 0:13:34.439 guy in man coverage. He's got like a step and 0:13:34.480 --> 0:13:37.800 a half on the linebacker, and there is pressure in 0:13:37.840 --> 0:13:41.439 mac Jones's face. Yannika Juice gets beat by quitty Pay 0:13:41.480 --> 0:13:44.240 off the right edge, and Quittypay is right in his 0:13:44.360 --> 0:13:48.079 grill as he releases the football. Still a throw i'd 0:13:48.120 --> 0:13:51.520 like him to hit. Yeah, still throw, I'd like him 0:13:51.520 --> 0:13:53.640 to hit every once in a while. You're gonna have 0:13:53.640 --> 0:13:56.320 to make some plays under pressure, right, and that's still 0:13:56.360 --> 0:14:00.320 a throw that it's a hard throw. Hey, it's under press, sure, 0:14:00.720 --> 0:14:04.600 But if he's the guy, if he's a franchise quarterback. 0:14:05.000 --> 0:14:06.720 I still want him to make that through. The other 0:14:06.760 --> 0:14:09.760 throw was the crossing route to Kendrick Bourne the very 0:14:09.800 --> 0:14:13.040 first third down of the game that Cole Strange gets 0:14:13.080 --> 0:14:17.200 beat by DeForrest Buckner and Buckner's in his face. And 0:14:18.040 --> 0:14:23.720 could Kendrick Borne have caught the ball. Probably? Could he 0:14:23.800 --> 0:14:26.280 have not slown down on the route and run through it. 0:14:26.680 --> 0:14:30.960 Probably he still put it too far out. That's another 0:14:31.000 --> 0:14:34.880 one too where and maybe in this situation helped with 0:14:34.920 --> 0:14:37.760 the blitz, But that was a one read play. Yeah, 0:14:37.800 --> 0:14:40.320 that was There was a clear out route. Right. It's 0:14:40.360 --> 0:14:42.280 the same play that they ran to Jacobe Myers on 0:14:42.320 --> 0:14:44.720 third down the week before, right, and he's what is 0:14:44.720 --> 0:14:47.000 He's like six seven yards short of the sticks. That's 0:14:47.040 --> 0:14:49.920 the Kendrick Borne is the only receiver Mac Jones can 0:14:49.920 --> 0:14:52.600 throw the ball too. On that play. Nobody else is 0:14:52.640 --> 0:14:58.440 realistically in the pattern. So yeah, it wasn't a great throw. 0:14:58.480 --> 0:15:00.200 But I look at that and say, well, why why 0:15:00.200 --> 0:15:01.840 are they running that play? There? It goes back to 0:15:01.840 --> 0:15:04.000 my thing where there's no right answer. Even if he 0:15:04.040 --> 0:15:09.280 completes that, Kendrick Bourne gets tackled probably right there, maybe 0:15:09.320 --> 0:15:11.240 picks up the yarch, not to his fault. The defenders 0:15:11.280 --> 0:15:13.440 right on him, right, they come up, you know, third 0:15:13.440 --> 0:15:15.040 and fifteen they pick up or I think it was 0:15:15.080 --> 0:15:17.400 third and fifteen, third and whatever it was. I have 0:15:17.480 --> 0:15:19.440 it right in front of me. I probably could actually 0:15:19.480 --> 0:15:21.360 just say it right? Should I do that? Should I 0:15:21.400 --> 0:15:23.200 be right? Evan? Let me be right here. I actually 0:15:23.200 --> 0:15:25.840 think he had some room third and twelve, Third and twelve. 0:15:25.840 --> 0:15:27.920 He caught it like five yards. He caught it like 0:15:27.960 --> 0:15:30.040 five yards off the line of scrimmage, seven yards short 0:15:30.040 --> 0:15:32.000 of the sticks. Maybe he picks it up, but it's 0:15:32.000 --> 0:15:34.320 not easy. Let's see he gets tackled. Then it's all, well, 0:15:34.320 --> 0:15:36.320 why's mac throwing short of the sticks on third down? 0:15:36.960 --> 0:15:39.040 Is he doing that right? It goes back to my 0:15:39.080 --> 0:15:41.440 point of there there are plays they're running where there's 0:15:41.440 --> 0:15:43.760 just no right answer, and I think he's struggling to 0:15:43.760 --> 0:15:46.280 figure out what to do with that. So to me, 0:15:46.600 --> 0:15:48.080 what all this adds up? And this is sort of 0:15:48.080 --> 0:15:51.520 what I got into and unfiltered. But you know, there's 0:15:51.520 --> 0:15:53.680 obviously a lot more voices in that room, so he 0:15:53.720 --> 0:15:57.240 can hash it out more here. To me, these are 0:15:57.280 --> 0:16:01.320 all not max like big picture, but some of this 0:16:01.400 --> 0:16:05.200 execution stuff that we're talking about I think is micro 0:16:05.600 --> 0:16:07.720 is fixable, right Like, I think that some of this 0:16:07.800 --> 0:16:10.440 execution stuff, the timing of the drops and the routes, 0:16:10.560 --> 0:16:14.520 the uh you know, handling pressure or or improving the 0:16:14.520 --> 0:16:16.920 offensive lines so he's not under a pressure as much. 0:16:17.320 --> 0:16:19.560 I'm not sure about right tackle, Like that's the one 0:16:19.600 --> 0:16:21.280 spot where we're going to get to in a second 0:16:21.320 --> 0:16:24.360 where I'm not sure that that's fixable with their current 0:16:24.440 --> 0:16:26.800 roster construction unless they do something something you have to 0:16:26.840 --> 0:16:31.040 figure out how to work around. Yeah, right, correct. But 0:16:32.480 --> 0:16:36.480 on a macro level, Matt Macro, I think some of 0:16:36.520 --> 0:16:40.280 the like mac ah, there you go. On a macro level, 0:16:40.880 --> 0:16:43.360 I think there's two big things that that from a 0:16:43.400 --> 0:16:46.640 coaching and coordinating standpoint that really stand out to me. 0:16:47.400 --> 0:16:53.720 Play design. It's simple and it's unimaginative, Like there's just 0:16:53.920 --> 0:16:58.200 nothing create like, there's no conflict. It's not putting any 0:16:58.240 --> 0:17:02.000 conflict into the defense, right, like just calling plays like 0:17:02.040 --> 0:17:04.639 it almost reminds me of like what they talk about 0:17:05.080 --> 0:17:07.840 when they talk about training camp. Right when they say 0:17:07.880 --> 0:17:10.639 that training camp, we're just running basic, like we're just 0:17:10.760 --> 0:17:14.159 running our install, like we're running day one stuff and 0:17:14.160 --> 0:17:16.360 we're just trying to get the execution down of our 0:17:16.400 --> 0:17:18.240 basic play. I know you kind of hate this, but 0:17:18.280 --> 0:17:21.080 the term I always uses Madden offense, Yeah, because with 0:17:21.800 --> 0:17:24.000 the playbooks in Madden are if you ever played Madden, like, 0:17:24.000 --> 0:17:27.400 they're just that's not really how NFL plays are called. 0:17:27.400 --> 0:17:30.040 It's a very oversimplified version of how NFL plays are called. 0:17:30.080 --> 0:17:33.240 But teams will do it, you know, in training camp 0:17:33.240 --> 0:17:35.479 in the preseason when you have ninety guys and you're 0:17:35.320 --> 0:17:38.200 just you know, it's one thing to run in the preseason. 0:17:38.240 --> 0:17:40.800 It makes some sense to run in the preseason, not 0:17:40.920 --> 0:17:44.200 necessarily in Week nine. Yeah. There's just so few times 0:17:44.240 --> 0:17:49.240 where I sit there and I'm like, that was that 0:17:49.320 --> 0:17:52.320 was a good design, right, that was like a cool play, 0:17:52.400 --> 0:17:55.840 Like that's why when they ran the touchdown to Jacobe 0:17:55.840 --> 0:17:59.159 against the Bears the league playoff play action with Bailey Zappy, 0:17:59.359 --> 0:18:01.239 I lost my mind in the press box because I 0:18:01.280 --> 0:18:05.320 was like, oh, my goodness, don't admit that they finally 0:18:05.440 --> 0:18:10.000 ran something that like that was cool, Like, yes, like 0:18:10.119 --> 0:18:12.840 that's what we're supposed to. That's coordinating. So it's that's 0:18:12.840 --> 0:18:15.960 play design, I think, and maybe people who don't watch 0:18:16.040 --> 0:18:17.399 the game as close as we do, just to kind 0:18:17.440 --> 0:18:20.520 of explain this a little further, because it's there are 0:18:20.520 --> 0:18:22.200 people who I tell this to them and they're kind 0:18:22.200 --> 0:18:25.080 of surprised that this level goes into it. It's not 0:18:25.560 --> 0:18:29.840 five guys running five routes. When you call a passing play, 0:18:30.280 --> 0:18:32.600 they're all most of the time, they don't all have 0:18:32.680 --> 0:18:35.639 to interconnect. But when we talk about route concepts, this 0:18:35.680 --> 0:18:38.600 is what we mean. You run a guy on a post, 0:18:39.000 --> 0:18:41.439 and then you run from the from the boundary, and 0:18:41.480 --> 0:18:44.000 then you run a guy from the slot on a wheel. 0:18:44.040 --> 0:18:47.480 This is just one of hundreds of concepts, but those 0:18:47.520 --> 0:18:51.720 two work in tandem to create space. Right. That's and 0:18:51.760 --> 0:18:53.520 that's kind of what you're talking about. Is you can 0:18:53.600 --> 0:18:56.240 just give five guys five different assignments and have them 0:18:56.240 --> 0:18:59.119 all run them, and that's all well and good, But 0:18:59.680 --> 0:19:02.240 what you really want to do is pair. It can 0:19:02.280 --> 0:19:04.760 be two together, it can be three together. There's probably 0:19:04.800 --> 0:19:06.840 some plays where there's five together. I can't think of 0:19:06.840 --> 0:19:08.760 one off the top of my head. I guess hoss 0:19:08.840 --> 0:19:11.080 kind of is five? Right, Well, that's those are like 0:19:11.119 --> 0:19:14.040 full field progressions, right, Like that's the difference. But but 0:19:14.080 --> 0:19:17.920 the idea is that you're running, you're running these concepts 0:19:17.920 --> 0:19:21.879 in tandem with one another to elicit some sort of 0:19:21.920 --> 0:19:25.440 reaction from the defense, and that can be any various 0:19:25.560 --> 0:19:28.040 number of things. But you're trying to put guys in 0:19:28.119 --> 0:19:30.240 conflict by what you're showing them. And then what you 0:19:30.280 --> 0:19:34.360 can do is take those concepts and build you take 0:19:34.400 --> 0:19:36.920 it to the next dimension. You build off of those 0:19:36.960 --> 0:19:41.440 concepts throughout multiple plays where you know it's you set 0:19:41.480 --> 0:19:42.800 them up one way and then you give them the 0:19:42.800 --> 0:19:46.119 other that kind of thing. Whereas that that there's not 0:19:46.160 --> 0:19:48.000 a ton of that right now. Right, So the easiest 0:19:48.040 --> 0:19:50.160 example that I can give is like the Shanahan tree, 0:19:50.160 --> 0:19:52.560 because it's it is pretty simple stuff. Right, So it's 0:19:52.600 --> 0:19:55.560 outside zone, outside zone, and now we're bootleg right, and 0:19:55.760 --> 0:19:58.520 we bootleg off of outside zone. And when we bootleg 0:19:58.600 --> 0:20:01.399 off of outside zone, we have like five different route 0:20:01.400 --> 0:20:04.439 concepts that we run off the bootleg. So some of 0:20:04.440 --> 0:20:07.000 it is just half field, like you know, crossers right 0:20:07.280 --> 0:20:09.320 into that half of the field. It could be slant, 0:20:09.359 --> 0:20:11.679 slant slant and then slant guard right. And then some 0:20:11.760 --> 0:20:14.879 of it is half boot where actually the quarterback is 0:20:14.920 --> 0:20:16.920 booting but then kind of stays more in the middle 0:20:16.960 --> 0:20:18.680 of the field instead of going all the way out 0:20:18.720 --> 0:20:21.920 to the into the boundary into the sideline, and then 0:20:21.960 --> 0:20:24.639 those have different route concepts off of it and different 0:20:24.640 --> 0:20:26.640 things that we can do off of it. So it's 0:20:26.680 --> 0:20:30.240