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Speaker 1: This is the Patriots Catch twenty two Podcasts with Evan

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Speaker 1: Lazar and Alex Barth. I'm in Lazar Lazar, Well, everybody

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Speaker 1: nailed it. Joined us always buy our Bark damage match.

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Speaker 1: Here is Evan Lazar and Alex Barr. Band is back together.

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Speaker 1: Hello everybody, and welcome into a new edition of the

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Speaker 1: Patriots Catch twenty two podcast right here on Patriots dot Com.

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Speaker 1: I'm Evan Lazar, joined us Always by Alex Barth, and uh,

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Speaker 1: we do have some construction right outside. I was gonna say,

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Speaker 1: I was very concious. Definitely some drilling. We're we're working

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Speaker 1: on it, um, so apologies for that. But I want

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Speaker 1: to start with looking back on to Sunday, and then

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Speaker 1: we're gonna look ahead and talk about some of the

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Speaker 1: big picture stuff that I I bet it is being

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Speaker 1: talked about down the hall, honestly, about where they go

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Speaker 1: after the buy and what they can do these next

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Speaker 1: couple of days and use these days to kind of

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Speaker 1: self scout and make some system. I think what he's

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Speaker 1: scheme tweaks or scheme adjustments, I think is what Belichick

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Speaker 1: called it yesterday. So there's some of that going on, certainly,

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Speaker 1: But I want to start with Sunday and also talk

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Speaker 1: about maca in a general sense as well moving forward,

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Speaker 1: because Alex, I think I've definitely come off on the

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Speaker 1: mac apologist side lately, right. I think the rest of

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Speaker 1: this thing around him has really torn him down. And

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Speaker 1: the main reason why I feel that way is because

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Speaker 1: his strengths coming in the draft, his strengths last year, processing,

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Speaker 1: in accuracy down the field, right, Like those are his

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Speaker 1: two calling cards. When those things just regress out of nowhere,

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Speaker 1: like Mac Jones has been a smart, cerebral quarterback probably

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Speaker 1: his entire life, right, Like you probably would have to

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Speaker 1: go back to like Pop worn or to find like

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Speaker 1: a time when Mac Jones was not seeing the field

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Speaker 1: or not getting the ball where it needed to go,

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Speaker 1: or like things like that, like how many you watched

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Speaker 1: him a ton of Alabama? How many times did that

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Speaker 1: happen at Alabama? Like he didn't, right, And it didn't

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Speaker 1: happen last year either, like the struggles that I saw

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Speaker 1: with the rest of the team. But I thought what

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Speaker 1: he just doesn't have the rocket arm to fit the

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Speaker 1: defenders that are closing on his receiver, right like, and

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Speaker 1: teams I think caught onto some of those things, and

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Speaker 1: we're adjusting to take away the short and intermediate stuff

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Speaker 1: the sideline. And that was the type of regression that

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Speaker 1: I was expecting from Mac Jones, was defense is adjusting

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Speaker 1: this the physical physical tools, excuse me, of a Josh

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Speaker 1: him to be that type of player as best as

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Speaker 1: they can schematically on defense, When he regresses, when his

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Speaker 1: strengths regress, that points to me to what's going on

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Speaker 1: around him, right Like. You don't just get to that

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Speaker 1: point on his own. And when we watched the tape

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Speaker 1: against the Colts, to me, this was the worst decision

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Speaker 1: making game that Mac Jones has ever played with the Patriots.

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Speaker 1: And I know he didn't even turn the ball over.

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Speaker 1: So just like, think about that for a second, right

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Speaker 1: just in terms of pure processing, where he's supposed to

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Speaker 1: with the football between the ears stuff, whatever you want

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Speaker 1: to call it. Processing field vision. It was as bad

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Speaker 1: So his mental processing skills did not They just couldn't

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Speaker 1: Like he's not been good contest context, it's explaining why

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Speaker 1: he's sitting back there feeling rushed because he feels like

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Speaker 1: not used to having that kind of time. So again,

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Speaker 1: Like you said, No, it's explaining what's going on. People

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Speaker 1: this guy last year as a rookie when he had

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Speaker 1: less experience? Right? He said, oh, well last year doesn't count, Well,

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Speaker 1: last year? Right? It's just adding context and right now

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Speaker 1: for a number of reasons. He's not comfortable, and when

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Speaker 1: you get rushed, you get nervous, and that's what we're

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Speaker 1: Mac Jones's career and even in his rookie season, because

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Speaker 1: goes through his reads quickly typically until this year, they

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Speaker 1: are having him read full field progressions. He is not

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Speaker 1: reading half the field, right, or he's not supposed to

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Speaker 1: how it's been this season. Yeah, either he's going to

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Speaker 1: one on one matchup with Taekwon Thornton with no safety

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Speaker 1: Take that out for a second. As soon as Taekwon

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say what the Patriots want him to

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Speaker 1: of all, I have no idea what they're coaching him

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna give my guy a chance for half a

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Speaker 1: it's not there, I'm gonna go to the front side

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Speaker 1: of the formation with the three receiver side, and I'm

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Speaker 1: going to just work out that progression. Right. It's a

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Speaker 1: If he had done that, if he had given Taekwon

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Speaker 1: This stuff just was not happening during his rookie season.

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Speaker 1: This is not mac Jones has hit his physical ceiling

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Speaker 1: right and teams are catching on to it. This is

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Speaker 1: mac Jones is not seeing the field, which is a

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Speaker 1: totally different animal than anything that I expected, as like

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Speaker 1: expected us to at least have that feather in our cap, right, right,

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Speaker 1: You know, he's an accurate thrower within tw yards of

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Speaker 1: not there anymore where we've completely aggressed. Yeah, and again

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of it is a situation they've

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Speaker 1: put him in, right you talk. I heard you guys

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Speaker 1: right answer on the play as it's designed, what's the

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Speaker 1: of an oversimplification, but you know, essentially reading the field,

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Speaker 1: there there's a right answer. Usually it feels like a

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Speaker 1: the release points the same, the first you know, ten

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Speaker 1: feet to the mound, it's the same, and then they

428
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Speaker 1: split in two different directions. Right. That's essentially kind of

429
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Speaker 1: what you're trying to do with your offense exactly. And

430
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Speaker 1: I think that these types of things are like PhD level, right,

431
00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:03,080
Speaker 1: like this is like graduate school, this is like big leagues,

432
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Speaker 1: And right now you have an offensive coordinator and an

433
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Speaker 1: offensive staff really with Patricia and Joe Judge that are

434
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Speaker 1: learning on the fly how to do this, so they

435
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Speaker 1: are elementary. And I kind of agree. I think Paul

436
00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:20,760
Speaker 1: and Fred were talking about this unfiltered. I kind of

437
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Speaker 1: agree that Bill Belichick has sort of put Matt Patricia

438
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Speaker 1: in a terrible spot, right like He's a defensive coach

439
00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:28,920
Speaker 1: his whole career. Now he's moving over to offense. They're

440
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Speaker 1: also dealing him a second a second year quarterback, right

441
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Speaker 1: It's not like they have Tom Brady here still where

442
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Speaker 1: it's like all right, Matt, like you're going to coordinate

443
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Speaker 1: the offense, but really Brady's the coach, right, Like, there's

444
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Speaker 1: not that much going on right now. So I do

445
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Speaker 1: think that Matt Patricia is in a tough spot, Like

446
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Speaker 1: I do think it's a difficult position to be in

447
00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:49,920
Speaker 1: for him. But I just think there's a level of sophistication.

448
00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:53,000
Speaker 1: And this is why, you know, I kind of downplayed

449
00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:55,080
Speaker 1: the Shack Leonard thing, and I do think it does

450
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Speaker 1: deserve some downplaying. But at the same time, it does

451
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Speaker 1: definitely suggest the fact that they're plays are pretty pretty

452
00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:04,679
Speaker 1: basic right now. And I'll sit up there in the

453
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Speaker 1: press box or you know, on all twenty two and

454
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Speaker 1: like be like they run this play every way, right,

455
00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:11,560
Speaker 1: Like I see this play every week. I see this

456
00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:13,840
Speaker 1: play every week. I see that play every week. And

457
00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:17,639
Speaker 1: their most successful stuff has honestly been the RPOs lately,

458
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Speaker 1: and that's because it's finally something that just organically creates

459
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Speaker 1: conflict in the defense, right, Like there, it's just a

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Speaker 1: play design that is already creating conflict in the defense,

461
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Speaker 1: even if you run it at the simplest of levels

462
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Speaker 1: like they're doing right now. Well, so that to go

463
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Speaker 1: back to what you said about it all like the

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Speaker 1: plays look basic. It's not even that the plays themselves

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Speaker 1: are basic. I mean that's a part of it. But

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Speaker 1: none of them look like each other. Yeah, right, they

467
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Speaker 1: all and they all look very different. So there's not

468
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Speaker 1: a ton of you know, all right, we've seen this

469
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Speaker 1: look already, but is it going this way or this way?

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Speaker 1: They're not creating that. And again, the RPO, like you said,

471
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Speaker 1: is something that naturally, the whole concept behind the concept

472
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Speaker 1: is is pick a defender, put him in conflict, right,

473
00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:05,719
Speaker 1: That's what the entire thing is predicating on, right, So

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00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:08,280
Speaker 1: it's built in. Yeah, it's a great point about how

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Speaker 1: there it doesn't look like they're building up to anything, right, Like,

476
00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:16,960
Speaker 1: it never looks like they're sequencing together things to like

477
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Speaker 1: build up to a bigger thing. It all just kind

478
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Speaker 1: of looks like they're just calling plays, right, like we're

479
00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:26,600
Speaker 1: just running plays. And that's the difference I think between

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Speaker 1: a really experienced play caller and somebody that's doing it

481
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Speaker 1: for the first time, and that's where the Patriots are at. Offensively,

482
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Speaker 1: I do want to talk about the offensive line, and

483
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Speaker 1: this is kind of we kind of went into what

484
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Speaker 1: I was going to do, which was sort of making

485
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Speaker 1: fixes and tweaks during the bye week. Here already, I

486
00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:44,360
Speaker 1: think the biggest thing as much as we can get

487
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Speaker 1: into and I love the skiing talk as much as anybody,

488
00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:47,960
Speaker 1: as much as we can get into all the excess

489
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Speaker 1: and knows and how they can improve there. At the

490
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Speaker 1: end of the day, if they block better, the whole

491
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Speaker 1: thing is going to look better. It really is everybody

492
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Speaker 1: talking about Max not the guy and this and that,

493
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Speaker 1: like you can't know. We can't know, because there's just

494
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Speaker 1: it all starts with the offensive line. If the offensive

495
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Speaker 1: line is not there, has Mack really been given a

496
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Speaker 1: fair shot this year? No, he hasn't. Isn't it time

497
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Speaker 1: to throw anything? So and by the way, I'd say

498
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Speaker 1: the same. I think the run game probably could be better.

499
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:15,320
Speaker 1: I know people are super high on Romandre and rightfully so,

500
00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:20,000
Speaker 1: he's been amazing. Standpoint, they're twenty second in DA feels

501
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:22,639
Speaker 1: like his kind of potentials untapped right now, right with

502
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Speaker 1: Damon Harris, like, they have much better runners than this.

503
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Speaker 1: I would even say some of these receivers, a guy

504
00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:28,879
Speaker 1: like Taekwon Thornton whose roub tree is going to be

505
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Speaker 1: mostly intermediate and deep stuff. You need time to throw

506
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Speaker 1: those routes, right. So I think it all even the

507
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Speaker 1: play calling, well, maybe they can't run some of the

508
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Speaker 1: stuff that they want to get to at the next

509
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Speaker 1: level because they don't have time to block it, right.

510
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Speaker 1: So I think it all ultimately comes back down to

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Speaker 1: the offensive line. I'm not saying that if they fix

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Speaker 1: the offensive line, they'll suddenly be, you know, the best

513
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Speaker 1: offense in the league, but we'll have a much better

514
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Speaker 1: idea of what everything else looks like if and when

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Speaker 1: they can just get some of this stuff blocked. Yeah, So,

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Speaker 1: speaking of that from a pure personnel standpoint, I wanted

517
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Speaker 1: to go over well we felt is their best five

518
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Speaker 1: man combination. Okay, so right now, last week the combination

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00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:13,359
Speaker 1: they rolled with the most and the one they ended

520
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Speaker 1: with was Yanni Kajused at right tackle. On when you

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Speaker 1: at right guard, James Farren said, center, Win at left guard,

522
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Speaker 1: Brown at left tackle. Now David Andrews back at practice

523
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Speaker 1: to the right, which is massive. So put David Andrews

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Speaker 1: back at center. What are you doing? The two weak

525
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Speaker 1: points are the two you know, kind of tipping points

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Speaker 1: right now are clearly left guard and right tackle. Right

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Speaker 1: those are the two probats that you're really having a

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Speaker 1: ton of problems. Right guard has been rock solid, and

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Speaker 1: I would say Trent's been solid too, So I'm not

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Speaker 1: Trent Brown. Yeah, Trent Brown hasn't been perfect. But if

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Speaker 1: Trent Brown was the worst performer on the offensive line

532
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Speaker 1: this year, they'd beat they'd be in great shape. Right excellent,

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Speaker 1: So center, right guard, and left tackle you feel good about.

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Speaker 1: It's those two spots. It's left guard, yeah, and it's

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Speaker 1: right tackle. So moving or who do you put in

536
00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:04,119
Speaker 1: those pots? Because at this point in Dante Scarneckia used

537
00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:05,680
Speaker 1: to talk about this all the time, seeing it through

538
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:07,879
Speaker 1: the same set of eyes. At this point, you just

539
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:10,959
Speaker 1: have to pick a combination right and go with it.

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00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:13,159
Speaker 1: It's a lot like last year where on when it

541
00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:15,200
Speaker 1: was the odd man out and it was Ted Carriss,

542
00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:17,359
Speaker 1: but it was working, so they stuck with it. Right Like,

543
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:21,960
Speaker 1: there's no going back at that position. So who are

544
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Speaker 1: you starting at left guard? Coming off the buy and

545
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Speaker 1: who are you starting at right tackle? Well, so this

546
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Speaker 1: is where I have to go against a lot of

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Speaker 1: what you said what I would do. I know you

548
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:32,840
Speaker 1: said right guard might be their best spot, but Michael

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Speaker 1: and when who's the best right tackle on this team? Yeah,

550
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Speaker 1: and I've said this in the past, I'd rather cover

551
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:39,480
Speaker 1: up an issue with guard than an issue with tackle.

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00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:42,240
Speaker 1: I would move Michael and went out to right tackle,

553
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:46,160
Speaker 1: and then between Cole Strange, Isaiah Wynn and Chason Hines

554
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:47,920
Speaker 1: when he comes back, and maybe go out and find

555
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:51,480
Speaker 1: somebody else in free agency, or even Marcus Cannon when

556
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:55,080
Speaker 1: he comes back. Between those four, find two guards. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's what I would do. And now I don't think

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Speaker 1: that's what they'll do. No, And they obviously no more

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Speaker 1: than I do when they're in the room, so there's

560
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Speaker 1: probably a reason they're not doing that. But with the

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Speaker 1: information I have, that's what I would do. I'm with

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Speaker 1: you that that's the best thing to do for this

563
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:10,000
Speaker 1: team this year. Yeah, I think that they Yeah, we're

564
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:11,960
Speaker 1: talking about this yet, like this isn't into the office.

565
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,000
Speaker 1: I definitely think they want to develop Mike on Win,

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Speaker 1: who at right guard, and he's been playing so well

567
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:18,879
Speaker 1: there that I think that they look at it maybe

568
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Speaker 1: more from a big picture thinked around with him for

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Speaker 1: two years. They want to leave him there. And you

570
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:25,280
Speaker 1: can't think around with Cole Strange like you can't. Cole

571
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 1: Strange is a left guard in college. He's a left

572
00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 1: guard in the purpose. If he's moving any words center,

573
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 1: it's a tough ass to move him to the right side.

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Speaker 1: And I think the issue that you've had with Isaiah

575
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Speaker 1: Winn is a lot to do with him transitioning to

576
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:42,200
Speaker 1: the right side as well. Now, can you mask things

577
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 1: like you know, footwork and the things that I talked about.

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00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 1: I think last week about Isaiah Winn where he's not,

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Speaker 1: you know, getting out of his stance quick enough and

580
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:53,400
Speaker 1: he's not getting to his landmarks or his set points

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00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 1: in his footwork is all messed up. I guess in

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00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 1: theory you can mask those more at guard because you're

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Speaker 1: not not setting out as far at guard, right like,

584
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 1: you don't have to really kick out of your stances

585
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:07,360
Speaker 1: as much at guard as you would at tackle. So

586
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 1: I if they're just looking to maximize the team this

587
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 1: year and put everybody in a good position this year,

588
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:16,520
Speaker 1: then moving on WHENU out to tackle, because this is

589
00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 1: how bad it's got. Like I was really against this.

590
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 1: I was, I said, well, I wanted him at right tackle,

591
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:23,640
Speaker 1: but I said, wherever you put him, just put them there,

592
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 1: leave them, don't move them. I was again, I thought,

593
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:29,080
Speaker 1: I think he's a guard long term, and I think

594
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:33,160
Speaker 1: he's best at guard. But at this point, I don't

595
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:37,440
Speaker 1: know how you avoid this if you want the team

596
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 1: to be the best it can be this year, right, Like,

597
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 1: if you're if you're still on the five year plan

598
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:43,880
Speaker 1: and you're just thinking about the next three years or

599
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 1: whatever the next five years, then maybe you leave on

600
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 1: Winnu at guard and continue to develop him there. But

601
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:51,640
Speaker 1: if you're trying to maximize the team this year, then

602
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:54,480
Speaker 1: I have a hard time thinking about how you fix

603
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 1: right tackle any better than putting on WHENU out there? Yeah,

604
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:01,440
Speaker 1: so what do you do at the guard spots? You know,

605
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:08,080
Speaker 1: I think Cole strange to me. It's similar to what's

606
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:10,920
Speaker 1: been going on with Mac, you know, like against the

607
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:13,840
Speaker 1: Bears right where you just kind of have to ride

608
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 1: it right, You just kind of have to ride it

609
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:18,440
Speaker 1: out with him at left guard. You hope David Andrews

610
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 1: coming back right. The problem you hope that David Andrews

611
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:25,240
Speaker 1: coming back fix a lot, and I personally think that

612
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:29,760
Speaker 1: it was a mistake pulling him from that game last week.

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Speaker 1: The first couple drives of the game were rough against

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Speaker 1: DeForrest Buckner. There's no question about it. Where he played

615
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:38,640
Speaker 1: two drives, right, I think. I think it's like two

616
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Speaker 1: and a half or yeah, first play of the game.

617
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:42,640
Speaker 1: I think it was the first play of the game.

618
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:45,080
Speaker 1: They try to run outside zone to the left side.

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Speaker 1: He tries to pass off DeForrest Buckner to James Ferns,

620
00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:50,440
Speaker 1: and DeForrest Buckner just blew up the play right like

621
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:53,280
Speaker 1: tackled Vermondrate two yards behind the line of scrimmage. Then

622
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:55,840
Speaker 1: I mentioned the Kenner Bourne play where he gets beat

623
00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 1: by DeForrest Buckner again, yeah, and forces Aaron pass and

624
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 1: they're punting the football. So basically on the first drive

625
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 1: or the first two drives, I can't remember exactly how

626
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:08,840
Speaker 1: those plays are sequenced together. He ruined two plays right

627
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:11,240
Speaker 1: like in the first like five plays that you ran.

628
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 1: So I understand from that standpoint kind of being like,

629
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:17,479
Speaker 1: all right, we gotta get him out of there, right right,

630
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 1: But I think with him, you gotta ride the wave like,

631
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 1: I just don't think you have any other choice. And

632
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:24,920
Speaker 1: there has been some good tape, certainly earlier on in

633
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 1: the season with David Andrews at center. There's been some

634
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:29,840
Speaker 1: solid tape. So the question I think that boils down

635
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 1: to is can Isaiah Win play right guard at a

636
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:43,360
Speaker 1: somewhat acceptable level? I mean, I'd like to think between him,

637
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 1: Marcus Cannon Chase, I guess those two guys are on

638
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 1: to them, who do you trust more? Do you trust

639
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:51,959
Speaker 1: Isaiah Win at right guard or do you trust Yadney

640
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 1: could used at right tackle? I mean I thought Yadney

641
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:58,680
Speaker 1: looked looked fine right, I mean, compared to what we've seen,

642
00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 1: he held up well. I know we got beat a

643
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 1: couple of times, but he got beat a lot early

644
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:05,760
Speaker 1: and I thought he settled down nicely after that. Quitty

645
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:08,560
Speaker 1: Pay gave him a ton of problems. But Quity Pay

646
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:10,640
Speaker 1: is a good player, like he's starting to come on

647
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:13,400
Speaker 1: and come into his own for Indy. He can really

648
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 1: rush the passer, so he had him beat a lot

649
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:20,640
Speaker 1: early on in that game. The run blocking tape was

650
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 1: solid for Yadney. He had a great block on Johnny

651
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 1: Smith's screen, blocked the guy right off the screen on

652
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 1: the broadcast coffee, so he had some good run blocking

653
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 1: screen tape. The pass protection stuff was iffy, but maybe

654
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 1: you ride that wave right like. I don't know, but

655
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 1: that's what it comes down to, I think for them

656
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 1: is do you trust Win more or do you just

657
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 1: trust could just more? Like? And I don't know, I

658
00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 1: have a tough time answering that question myself. I think

659
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:53,680
Speaker 1: probably could just just from what we've seen, you know,

660
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 1: just going. But I don't think you're necessarily going to

661
00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:58,239
Speaker 1: get one group and stick with it. I think you're

662
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:00,480
Speaker 1: gonna have to continue to tweak things, which is unfortune,

663
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 1: but I think that's just where they're at. Yeah, all right,

664
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 1: let's take some of these calls. I think that about

665
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:09,040
Speaker 1: sums up the offense. I thought we're kind of um

666
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:12,280
Speaker 1: getting lost in the weeds there a little bit, I

667
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:14,160
Speaker 1: think with some of the scheme stuff, which I appreciate

668
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:16,880
Speaker 1: you that's what this show is. Patty, what's going on? Patty?

669
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 1: And Agum? How you doing going on? Guys? Damn it?

670
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 1: You sold? You're sold. My question I was gonna ask

671
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 1: you if you think Dante's saying what I asked to

672
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:29,719
Speaker 1: see you guys, yesterday, just sticking with five guys. But, um, Alex,

673
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 1: I'll ask you a question. Um, I think I remember this.

674
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:38,480
Speaker 1: Maybe I'm not remembering correctly, but didn't didn't you have

675
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:41,960
Speaker 1: Brandon Schooler as like a special teams guy prior to

676
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 1: last year's draft and a guy that the Patriots would

677
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:47,120
Speaker 1: want to take a look at. Probably I think I did. Yeah,

678
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 1: that seems like a bar thing to do. To know

679
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 1: they're a random special teamer from Texas that nobody's ever

680
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:54,960
Speaker 1: heard of. I'd have to pull up my spreadsheet. Honestly,

681
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:56,280
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, all the names kind

682
00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:57,960
Speaker 1: of run together. I think I had him on my

683
00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:04,960
Speaker 1: radar like late. Yeah, and I mean that's all I got. Um,

684
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:07,440
Speaker 1: I'm hoping that they just stick with five guys going forward,

685
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:09,920
Speaker 1: and you know, if cold strange, like I said to

686
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:11,800
Speaker 1: the guys yesterday, if he's one of the guys that

687
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:13,960
Speaker 1: he's struggling and just let him work through it. You know,

688
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 1: he's your first round pick, but just let the guys

689
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:20,840
Speaker 1: freaking deal and get it over with. Yes. Yeah, No, Patty,

690
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:23,840
Speaker 1: You're right in my opinion with that is uh. And

691
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:27,239
Speaker 1: I think if they called Scarneckia and we're like you know,

692
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 1: give us your three things that we need to fix

693
00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 1: on the offensive line. I think continuity would be number one.

694
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:35,279
Speaker 1: I would agree with that. And some of it's injury, right,

695
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:37,719
Speaker 1: some of it you can't avoid. But yeah, there's too

696
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:42,080
Speaker 1: much shuffling going on with that group. All right, Andrew

697
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:45,880
Speaker 1: and Wisconsin. What's up? Andrew? Hey guys, how are you

698
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 1: doing good? How are you? Thanks for hanging on doing well? Um? So,

699
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 1: I have two questions here. Um. One of them I

700
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 1: have to preface and I'll try to go quick here. Um.

701
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:59,640
Speaker 1: So as a casual fan and just just watching the games, U,

702
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,720
Speaker 1: I know it's I'm really not one of those bailey

703
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 1: baffy guys at all. I love Mac. I've bought the

704
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:09,480
Speaker 1: four hundred dollars Nike jersey for him right away from

705
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:13,320
Speaker 1: the grass room. Um, but it looked a lot better

706
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:16,320
Speaker 1: when when he was out there. Um. I'm just wondering

707
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:18,840
Speaker 1: if it's build the play calling, if it's build the

708
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:22,239
Speaker 1: difference there. Um. And then also kind of more of

709
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:26,719
Speaker 1: a on the lighthearted side. Um, how likely do you

710
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:29,560
Speaker 1: guys think it is to uh for Matthew jude On

711
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:32,920
Speaker 1: to break shack records this year? He's actually you know

712
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:36,319
Speaker 1: it would take a little bit, it'd be pretty tough,

713
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 1: but it seems like he could do it all right.

714
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:42,520
Speaker 1: So to the first point, the Bailey Zappy mac Jones thing,

715
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:45,319
Speaker 1: I I did think we were kind of beyond this

716
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 1: when we saw Bailey Zappy against Chicago, like after they

717
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 1: lost the lead and when he was playing from behind,

718
00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 1: and that that game was as bad as any tape

719
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:56,840
Speaker 1: that mac Jones has put out there. You know, it

720
00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 1: comes in, he plays great, they have a couple of

721
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:00,919
Speaker 1: play calls up there's for him, and then it really

722
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:03,319
Speaker 1: started to unravel on him, gonna unravel on the whole team.

723
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 1: To be fair as well. I will say this though,

724
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 1: I think we're at the point now and I was

725
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:11,239
Speaker 1: as anti Bailey's Appy as you could possibly be. Right, Yeah,

726
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:13,240
Speaker 1: but I do think we're at the point now where

727
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 1: bailey'sz Appy was making quicker decisions with the football, maybe

728
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 1: not necessarily better like aggressive decisions, right, I guess it's

729
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 1: the way to put it. Like, you know, I don't

730
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:27,319
Speaker 1: think he was making as many high, high level he

731
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 1: was just getting the ball out of his hand. He's

732
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 1: getting the ball out of his which is we talked

733
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:33,600
Speaker 1: about Max's decision making ability. Bailey's Appy's best trade in

734
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 1: college was that ball was in and out, in and out,

735
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:39,719
Speaker 1: in and out, and it was great to see that.

736
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 1: Now some of it was I don't think Bailey's Appy

737
00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:46,320
Speaker 1: ever got sped up. Those were probably his two starts

738
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:48,799
Speaker 1: were the two best games in terms of pass pro

739
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:50,799
Speaker 1: for this team. And I know there's some people who

740
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:53,600
Speaker 1: have these conspiracy theories that they're willing to block for

741
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:56,479
Speaker 1: Bailey's Appy more than Mac Jones. Now, they did things

742
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:59,839
Speaker 1: in those games to help out. There's a in those

743
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:03,800
Speaker 1: games significantly significantly higher rate where they keep running backs

744
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:06,440
Speaker 1: indoor tight ends into block and only send three or

745
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 1: four guys out into the pattern that's naturally going to help.

746
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:11,719
Speaker 1: They called more of these quick release plays that are

747
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 1: designed for the quarterback to get the ball in out

748
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:15,880
Speaker 1: of his hands. They called more of those plays in

749
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:18,600
Speaker 1: those games. And they're calling for Max. So what I

750
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:20,440
Speaker 1: would what I would say to that in terms of

751
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:22,759
Speaker 1: Zappy didn't look sped up. Zappy was getting the ball

752
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:25,400
Speaker 1: out of his hands. Yes, they made it easier for

753
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:27,839
Speaker 1: him to do that. The answer is not necessarily going

754
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:32,399
Speaker 1: back to Bailey Zappy. It's called giving Mac Jones those opportunities. Yeah,

755
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:35,480
Speaker 1: is I will push back on one thing, not not

756
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:40,440
Speaker 1: like to you directly necessarily, but we have two years basically,

757
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:44,239
Speaker 1: not basically, we have two years of sample size now

758
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:48,400
Speaker 1: to work with. On Mac Jones, his under center passing

759
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 1: numbers are some of the worst than the league. Okay,

760
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 1: if you can do a lot of that stuff without

761
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 1: going under center. I don't think you can do some

762
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 1: of the hard play action stuff they were doing with Bailey. No,

763
00:37:57,600 --> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 1: but you can do you can do six protection, you

764
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 1: can do quick quick throw kind of plays quilts things

765
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:05,839
Speaker 1: like that. Yeah, no, the quick throws. Certainly. I think

766
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:09,360
Speaker 1: that the play action success that they had with Bailey

767
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:13,879
Speaker 1: Zappy is really it's a it's a Bailey Zappy thing,

768
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:16,239
Speaker 1: right And I think the main reason when I say

769
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 1: it to Bailey Zappy thing, I'm more mean it's a

770
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:21,080
Speaker 1: Lions and Browns thing, right Like. I think those two

771
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 1: teams saw a rookie quarterback making his first starts in

772
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 1: the NFL, and they were just eight in the box

773
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:29,319
Speaker 1: and were coming after the line of scrimmage, right Like.

774
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:31,439
Speaker 1: That was the game plan from their side of the things,

775
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:33,920
Speaker 1: and they were just getting the three on two in

776
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 1: the back end. And Jacoby Myers or DeVante Parker was

777
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:39,719
Speaker 1: getting one on ones all over the place, and they're

778
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 1: just winning the one on ones against inferior quarters when

779
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 1: they play these better teams that have good cover guys

780
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 1: in the back end and have better linebackers that can

781
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:51,000
Speaker 1: read things out quicker, like a team like Indianapolis, Like,

782
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:54,840
Speaker 1: they're not gonna have average seventeen yards per play action

783
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:57,360
Speaker 1: pass attempt against the Colts or against the Bills or

784
00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:00,359
Speaker 1: against some of these better defense of the Jets. So

785
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 1: I think a lot of ways that that was like

786
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 1: an opponent driven thing. I think that they got Bailey

787
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 1: zappy or had to go to Bailey z Appy in

788
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 1: a really good time to go to Bailey Zappy. Though,

789
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:13,240
Speaker 1: those two teams and those two defenses really struggled against

790
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 1: the Patriots. So I think there's some elements of the

791
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 1: Bailey Zappy offense that I wish they did more. I

792
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:22,800
Speaker 1: think mainly though, and this is sort of one of

793
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 1: the big picture of things I wanted to hit on

794
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:26,880
Speaker 1: about where do they go from here and off the

795
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:30,880
Speaker 1: bye week, I think they have to accept the fact

796
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:35,760
Speaker 1: that mac Jones is just not comfortable operating from under center.

797
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 1: I don't know what it is. Like I've tried to

798
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:40,319
Speaker 1: study some of the tape, and I think there are

799
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:43,719
Speaker 1: some elements of like drops and like timing in his

800
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 1: drops and things like that. Or maybe the play action

801
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 1: fake like just isn't as as he doesn't sell it

802
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:51,879
Speaker 1: as well as he needs to or whatever. But like

803
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 1: I said, two years now of data on mac Jones

804
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:58,359
Speaker 1: and all of it suggests that he struggles from under center.

805
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 1: Right now, from under center a season, he's averaging five

806
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 1: point nine yards per attempt. It's thirty third in the NFL.

807
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 1: From the start of last season to this year, he's

808
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:13,279
Speaker 1: thirty fifth in passer rating from under center. So he

809
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:16,279
Speaker 1: just doesn't do it well for whatever reason. So that's

810
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:19,920
Speaker 1: why I'm always harping so much on RPOs, Because if

811
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 1: you're not gonna be an under center play action team

812
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:24,439
Speaker 1: and you're gonna be a spread team and you're gonna

813
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:27,080
Speaker 1: play out of the gun all the time, you have

814
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:29,720
Speaker 1: to run RPOs. Like That's how you get the same

815
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 1: idea of play action, right, that's the shotgun version of

816
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 1: play action is RPOs. Now, the next step, certainly for

817
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:40,920
Speaker 1: their RPO package is downfield routes. Like we were talking

818
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:43,840
Speaker 1: about this before practice, like, can we get a slant

819
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:46,840
Speaker 1: on an RPO instead of all bubble screens, which is

820
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:49,320
Speaker 1: all they do right now is bubble screens off of RPOs.

821
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 1: They gotta start developing some routes down the field, slants

822
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:58,320
Speaker 1: like curls or hitches, anything like anything down the field

823
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 1: that well, generally a bigger play if they do throw

824
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:04,799
Speaker 1: the ball out of the RPO, because right now, you're

825
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:06,920
Speaker 1: not gonna get big plays off of bubble screens, Like

826
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 1: that's just not gonna happen too frequently. You're gonna get

827
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:14,080
Speaker 1: bigger plays out of hitting. You know, Kendrick Bourne on

828
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:17,440
Speaker 1: a slant and he's off off to the races, right, Like,

829
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 1: those are the big plays that you're going to get.

830
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:22,239
Speaker 1: What they were last year. That's what they were at Alabama, right,

831
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:26,680
Speaker 1: Like Davante Smith off the glance route was automatic, right, automatic,

832
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:28,360
Speaker 1: big play. When I say last year big plays, I

833
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:30,520
Speaker 1: mean like they not on RPOs, but like Kendrick Boorn

834
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:33,759
Speaker 1: catch and run right right, right, Yeah, that's totally what

835
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:36,760
Speaker 1: it is. So I think that you know, the Bailey's

836
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:40,560
Speaker 1: Appy stuff. To me, I do agree that Bailey's Appy

837
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 1: was getting the ball out quicker and seeing the field

838
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 1: faster than Mac Jones. But I do think that they

839
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:49,800
Speaker 1: need to start calling plays that fit Mac Jones and

840
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 1: the under center stuff just doesn't. All right, uh Steve,

841
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 1: and wait wait all right, let's take Steve the mate. Steve. Oh,

842
00:41:56,520 --> 00:42:02,719
Speaker 1: I forgot about that, Steve, what's up? Um? So you know,

843
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 1: I think the thing was the offense. I think the

844
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:08,839
Speaker 1: first thing other than the offensive line that really needs

845
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:12,719
Speaker 1: to be addressed is really the coaching. I if we

846
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 1: think that the team has enough talent, and we think

847
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:20,960
Speaker 1: that the quarterback shows potential, then good coaching should elevate players,

848
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:23,880
Speaker 1: you know, to their potential. I mean, Bill Belizick has

849
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:28,399
Speaker 1: been doing that for years. Obviously you had you know, uh,

850
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:31,760
Speaker 1: you know, the goat as a quarterback, which which helps.

851
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:35,879
Speaker 1: But um, you know, I think that's something that needs

852
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:37,720
Speaker 1: to be addressed. I have no idea if they'll actually

853
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 1: look in and think, oh, wait a minute, maybe having

854
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:44,359
Speaker 1: Patricia's the offensive coordinator's not working. I don't know. But

855
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 1: when I look at Mac, I see him when he

856
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 1: is in the pocket, you can tell, you know, he

857
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:52,160
Speaker 1: gets He has like happy feet where it looks like

858
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 1: he's processing so much more information than he supposed to. Like,

859
00:42:57,200 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 1: I think he's thinking, all right, my wide receivers running

860
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:03,719
Speaker 1: the actual right routes um because if they don't and

861
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:06,279
Speaker 1: he throws the ball because he has to anticipate and

862
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:08,759
Speaker 1: it gets intercepted, people are gonna say, look at you know,

863
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:11,640
Speaker 1: we need to go back to Zappi And then you know,

864
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:17,800
Speaker 1: uh is you know, is this office the line gonna

865
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 1: protect me? Or am I going to get another you know,

866
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:24,239
Speaker 1: just destroyed uh constantly? And I just don't know, you

867
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:25,880
Speaker 1: know what is the other thing I was ass is

868
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:32,919
Speaker 1: you know Joe Burrow gets you know, constantly hit. Yeah,

869
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 1: he doesn't have or does he have the same characteristics

870
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:41,080
Speaker 1: that Mac is showing now? Yeah, So look, I think

871
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 1: to sum it up, I think we agree or with

872
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 1: him on all points about the coaching. The first thing

873
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:50,360
Speaker 1: I'll just say about Joe Burrow, well, you know he

874
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:52,440
Speaker 1: has Jamar Chase. Well, and so this is what I

875
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:54,560
Speaker 1: was going to say, look at what he's looked like

876
00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:58,200
Speaker 1: without Jamar Chase, Right, go back to that game against Cleveland.

877
00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:01,719
Speaker 1: He looked and the defensive line couldn't block him. He's

878
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:04,319
Speaker 1: getting your team off on him. The Browns defense wasn't

879
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:07,560
Speaker 1: That's a good bass rush, but he looked like Mac

880
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:10,719
Speaker 1: Jones has looked. Yeah, so there was something. Stephen Ruis

881
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:13,640
Speaker 1: of The Ringer wrote a good piece about the Bengals

882
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 1: figuring out their offense a little bit before Jamar Chase

883
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:20,759
Speaker 1: got hurt, and he said that he wrote this whole like,

884
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:24,000
Speaker 1: you know, soliloqually about how the Bengals have pulled out

885
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:26,839
Speaker 1: of their early season rut and their offenses clicking again.

886
00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:28,920
Speaker 1: And then I remember he tweeted and he was just like,

887
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 1: but at the end of the day, Jamar Chase is

888
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 1: just really good and he started winning all of his

889
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 1: one on one battles right right, Like that was like

890
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:37,960
Speaker 1: sort of the trump card that a team like the Bengals,

891
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:40,439
Speaker 1: or the team like the Dolphins, like, for all their

892
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:43,520
Speaker 1: scheming and all of Mike McDaniel's craziness, at the end

893
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:45,680
Speaker 1: of the day, the Dolphins just have two receivers and

894
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:49,279
Speaker 1: Jalen Waddle and Tyreek Hill that are damn good and

895
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:51,600
Speaker 1: when they need a play, that's where two goes with

896
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:54,600
Speaker 1: the ball, right. And the Patriots might have like one

897
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:57,000
Speaker 1: in Jacobe Meyers, who I think can get open and

898
00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:59,319
Speaker 1: make plays like that, but it's certainly not as explosive

899
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:02,800
Speaker 1: as those two guys. In terms of Patricia and his future,

900
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:06,560
Speaker 1: let's call it that with the organization. I also tend

901
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:09,480
Speaker 1: to agree that Patricia is not going anywhere and they're

902
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:13,360
Speaker 1: gonna have him, just like a player would develop into

903
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:15,839
Speaker 1: this role, right, and hope that over time he gets

904
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:18,279
Speaker 1: better at it, just like players do with more repetition.

905
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:22,719
Speaker 1: I do hope two things. One, I hope that next

906
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:26,040
Speaker 1: year they hire a real offensive line coach to take

907
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:28,960
Speaker 1: that off his plate. Right. I hope that there's a

908
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:33,040
Speaker 1: Carmen Brisillo or you know, a Googs, right, I can't

909
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:35,880
Speaker 1: say his last name, but just somebody that's done offensive

910
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:38,680
Speaker 1: line before. You know, maybe you're a guy from Iowa

911
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:42,400
Speaker 1: that you tell me is terrible, right that Okay, Brian

912
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:44,719
Speaker 1: Ferrins I said I was offense is terrible. I never

913
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:48,480
Speaker 1: said Brian Ferns. Brian Ferrens. You kind of did, Brian Ferrens. Right.

914
00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:50,759
Speaker 1: Maybe it's Brian Ferris from Iowa who might get can

915
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:53,080
Speaker 1: buy his dad as the OC there, right because somebody

916
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:56,480
Speaker 1: just butchered that whole thing. But essentially, yes, that whole thing, right,

917
00:45:56,680 --> 00:45:59,200
Speaker 1: he's gonna he's he's looking at NFL coaching jobs to

918
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:02,319
Speaker 1: avoid getting maybe his NFL coaching job is coming to

919
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:04,920
Speaker 1: coach the offensive line here. He coach he was, He

920
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 1: was a quality control coach here for two years then

921
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:10,000
Speaker 1: in twenty eleven he was the tight ends coach, played

922
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:12,360
Speaker 1: offensive line. I would played offensive line in the NFL

923
00:46:12,640 --> 00:46:15,279
Speaker 1: coach that I would before becoming the quarterbacks coach in OC.

924
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 1: But yeah, he would be a guy that would fit

925
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:20,560
Speaker 1: that description. Yes. The other hope that I have is

926
00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:24,640
Speaker 1: they have somebody that they hire, because I don't think

927
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:26,759
Speaker 1: they're gonna hire like Bill O'Brien next year, Like I

928
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:28,480
Speaker 1: don't think that that's gonna happen, and they're gonna bring

929
00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:31,319
Speaker 1: in like a veteran OC to run the whole thing.

930
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:34,840
Speaker 1: But I would hope that maybe next year they would

931
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:37,800
Speaker 1: bring in like a consultant, right like a like a

932
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:41,680
Speaker 1: some sort of quality control coach or consultant that's coached

933
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:44,680
Speaker 1: offense his entire life and could come in and just

934
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:47,960
Speaker 1: be a professional offensive coach in the room to kind

935
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:50,399
Speaker 1: of help point these guys in the right direction, sort

936
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:52,719
Speaker 1: of like what you would do if if Patricia was

937
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:55,680
Speaker 1: like a young coordinator, right like sort of like what

938
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:59,880
Speaker 1: Dante Scarneckia and Ivan fears were for Josh McDaniels, right, Like,

939
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:02,759
Speaker 1: somebody like that that's been around the block and knows

940
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:04,279
Speaker 1: what he's doing, I think would go a long way.

941
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:06,520
Speaker 1: We missed the Matthew jude On thinking. And we've talked

942
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:10,920
Speaker 1: fifteen minutes now, Alex about the offense and the offensive struggles,

943
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:13,040
Speaker 1: and we haven't really touched at all on the defense.

944
00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:15,759
Speaker 1: So Judean and the sack record, I could take that

945
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:17,640
Speaker 1: or leave it. I don't really care if he breaks

946
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:20,239
Speaker 1: the sack record, but I do think that it's worth

947
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:23,759
Speaker 1: talking about. What's an interesting, bigger conversation with him to

948
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:25,759
Speaker 1: me because of how last season ended, we thought he

949
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:28,760
Speaker 1: was gonna break it. Last season he was six sacks,

950
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 1: six sacks short with six games to go at least

951
00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:33,719
Speaker 1: the Patriots team sack record of eighteen and a half

952
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:36,560
Speaker 1: set by Entree Tippet in nineteen eighty four, and then

953
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:39,040
Speaker 1: he never got another sack after the bye. Here we

954
00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:42,120
Speaker 1: are at the bye week again, and this is something

955
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 1: that really applies to the team as a whole, but

956
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 1: we can use jude On as an example. The bye

957
00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:49,600
Speaker 1: week last year became a thing in that when they

958
00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 1: struggled down the stretch, the bye, the bye? What happened

959
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:54,640
Speaker 1: at the bye? What would they do? What didn't they

960
00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:56,359
Speaker 1: do during the bye? Right? And here we are again

961
00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:59,200
Speaker 1: now Matt to Judeon has talked this year about how

962
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:02,239
Speaker 1: he tried to get in better shape, better endurance. His

963
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:04,839
Speaker 1: usage rate has been down ten percent this year. It's

964
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:07,279
Speaker 1: seventy four percent, down from about eighty two eighty three

965
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:10,120
Speaker 1: percent this time last year. So they've it seems like

966
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:12,279
Speaker 1: at least with him, they've made an effort to write

967
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:15,160
Speaker 1: that the pace he's on right now, eleven and a

968
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:18,359
Speaker 1: half sacks and nine games, he should blow by Andre

969
00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:21,279
Speaker 1: Tippett's number of eighteen and a half. And you know,

970
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:23,480
Speaker 1: does he flirt with the twenty two and a half

971
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:25,319
Speaker 1: from t J. Watt from a couple of years ago

972
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:29,799
Speaker 1: I tied with Michael Strahan, Right, Maybe maybe he does.

973
00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:31,960
Speaker 1: He's on that pace right now, He's on pace to

974
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:35,399
Speaker 1: tie it. They need him to show up big down

975
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:37,040
Speaker 1: the stretch, which he didn't do last year. So that's

976
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:39,439
Speaker 1: where this gets very interesting. Yeah, and I think last

977
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 1: year to the their secondary rushers like Barmore came on

978
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:47,160
Speaker 1: right and he was somebody that emerged, but they didn't

979
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:49,279
Speaker 1: I think this year they have really good rushed depth,

980
00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:53,400
Speaker 1: like guys like ja Dietrich Wise Barmore will be Barmore

981
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 1: when he comes back, right, So I think these guys

982
00:48:57,120 --> 00:49:01,680
Speaker 1: get into this point has really put the pass rush

983
00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:04,680
Speaker 1: in the position that I'm much much more bullish on

984
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:06,839
Speaker 1: it even than I was last year, because last year

985
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:09,560
Speaker 1: it felt a lot until Barmore started to come on

986
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:11,840
Speaker 1: in the middle part of the year, it felt a

987
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:14,320
Speaker 1: lot like Judean was their entire pass rush, right, and

988
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:17,080
Speaker 1: if you block jude On, you're gonna be okay. This

989
00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:20,200
Speaker 1: year they have some counters to just jude On. Their

990
00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:24,279
Speaker 1: five man or four man package on third down. Excuse me,

991
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:27,160
Speaker 1: is is spectacular, Like it's just so much fun to watch,

992
00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:30,320
Speaker 1: how they scheme it up, how they run stunts or

993
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:34,120
Speaker 1: games up front, how they blitz guys and then drop guys,

994
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:37,480
Speaker 1: and like it's just there's so much great stuff going on.

995
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:42,520
Speaker 1: I mean, they had a play last week where they

996
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:46,240
Speaker 1: dropped jude On into coverage and the whole protection slides

997
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:48,440
Speaker 1: out to jude On and the Geltti Devi is just

998
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:50,640
Speaker 1: unblocked through the middle of the line of scrimmage, like

999
00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:53,279
Speaker 1: they're just playing games with the offensive line and with

1000
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:56,640
Speaker 1: the pass protection of these opposing offensive lines right now,

1001
00:49:57,040 --> 00:49:59,920
Speaker 1: that's been really fun to watch now in the back end,

1002
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,600
Speaker 1: and it's a little bit like what they were doing

1003
00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:06,680
Speaker 1: last year, where there's some disguise, there's some rotation. There's

1004
00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:09,239
Speaker 1: definitely some zone, more zone maybe than we're accustomed to

1005
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:12,879
Speaker 1: on early downs, third downs of man coverage down for them.

1006
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:18,120
Speaker 1: I have reservations about whether or not the secondary is

1007
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:21,120
Speaker 1: truly gonna hold up against the elite offenses, right like

1008
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:25,479
Speaker 1: when Josh Allen comes here in Stefon Diggs and Gabe

1009
00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:28,959
Speaker 1: Davis and Isaiah McKenzie again, like how are they gonna

1010
00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:33,279
Speaker 1: match up in man coverage against those types of teams

1011
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:35,520
Speaker 1: when they play the Bengals, Like and they have to

1012
00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:38,440
Speaker 1: face Jamar Chase, Like who's taken Jamar Chase? And do

1013
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:41,719
Speaker 1: they have a guy that they can hold up in

1014
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:46,239
Speaker 1: the back end with that because Burrow Alan, you know,

1015
00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:48,440
Speaker 1: if they do make the playoffs, whoever they play in

1016
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:51,520
Speaker 1: the playoffs, Like I shouldn't say whoever, because some maybe

1017
00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:53,680
Speaker 1: they do play quarterback that they can spin the dial on.

1018
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:57,239
Speaker 1: But guys like Allen and Burrow, they're not gonna be

1019
00:50:57,320 --> 00:50:59,120
Speaker 1: able to do what they did to Zach Wilson, right, Like,

1020
00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:01,000
Speaker 1: they're not gonna be able to just muddy the waters

1021
00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:05,560
Speaker 1: back there, make it confusing and get and get three turnovers. Like,

1022
00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:07,520
Speaker 1: I just don't think that those guys are gonna are

1023
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:10,360
Speaker 1: gonna fall for those tricks as much as the inexperienced

1024
00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:14,840
Speaker 1: guys do. So can they get bought? Can they actually

1025
00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 1: win with personnel instead of it all just being Belichick

1026
00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:21,879
Speaker 1: smoke and mirrors, right, because last year they couldn't. Last

1027
00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:24,880
Speaker 1: year it was ended up all being Bill smoke and mirrors.

1028
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:27,359
Speaker 1: So is this How do you feel about the back end?

1029
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:30,239
Speaker 1: Because their safety groups has me excited like that. I

1030
00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:32,759
Speaker 1: think they can really do some cool things with but

1031
00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:35,360
Speaker 1: I'm still a little bit concerned with the fact that

1032
00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:38,040
Speaker 1: you're outside corners or Jalen Mills and Jonathan Jones and

1033
00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:40,160
Speaker 1: Johathan Jones has been great, don't get me wrong, well,

1034
00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:42,920
Speaker 1: and Jack Jones, and so maybe Jack Jones is the

1035
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:45,200
Speaker 1: answer a Marcus in the slot or you know whatever

1036
00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:47,359
Speaker 1: upgrades of that unit. But how do you feel about

1037
00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:48,680
Speaker 1: the back end right now? Because the front, I think

1038
00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:50,640
Speaker 1: we can all agree, has been awesome. I think it's

1039
00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:52,040
Speaker 1: one of those things I know this is sort of

1040
00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:53,640
Speaker 1: a cop out, but I think it's one of those

1041
00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:55,800
Speaker 1: things where they've done as well as you can expect

1042
00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:58,000
Speaker 1: to this point. Yeah, we're not going to know how

1043
00:51:58,040 --> 00:52:00,399
Speaker 1: they you know, you talk about the Bills, right, We're

1044
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:02,040
Speaker 1: not gonna know what they look like against that kind

1045
00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:03,880
Speaker 1: of test until they face it. Yeah, we're just not

1046
00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:07,080
Speaker 1: And I think the biggest issue against the Bills last year.

1047
00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:08,719
Speaker 1: I know people try to talk about the schemes and

1048
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:10,440
Speaker 1: this and that, and your whole thing with the iPhone

1049
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:14,600
Speaker 1: and the flip phone and whatever. I think at the

1050
00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:16,000
Speaker 1: end of the day, a lot of it was just speed.

1051
00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:18,040
Speaker 1: They just didn't have the speed on the field that

1052
00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:20,240
Speaker 1: the Bills did they needed to. Now you have Jonathan

1053
00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:22,000
Speaker 1: Jones playing on the outside. You didn't even have him

1054
00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:23,800
Speaker 1: last year at all, he was hurt, but you have

1055
00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:26,080
Speaker 1: him playing on the outside. You have Marcus Jones in

1056
00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:29,360
Speaker 1: the slot, you have Jack Jones, like, they have legitimate

1057
00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:32,400
Speaker 1: speed in the secondary. Now. So does that mean that

1058
00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:34,759
Speaker 1: they're gonna blank the Bills? Probably not. I guess we'll

1059
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:38,399
Speaker 1: see what happens with Josh Allen's elbow, but they're better

1060
00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:43,520
Speaker 1: equipped personnel wise, personnel wise for that matchup. The schematic

1061
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:46,719
Speaker 1: thing is another level of it, but it we won't

1062
00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:50,320
Speaker 1: know until we know it's there really is no comp

1063
00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:52,759
Speaker 1: for it. It's the Bills and the Bengals games really

1064
00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:55,840
Speaker 1: that stand out. Maybe Miami is the closest comp for

1065
00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:58,279
Speaker 1: how they would cover something like that, but but that

1066
00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:02,520
Speaker 1: was Week one. We've come so saying they play Miami again, No,

1067
00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:04,439
Speaker 1: I know, that's what I'm saying. And maybe the comp

1068
00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:08,040
Speaker 1: for how they defend these explosive, you know, multi game

1069
00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:12,640
Speaker 1: breaker receiver offenses is Miami. That was Week one. Jack

1070
00:53:12,920 --> 00:53:14,480
Speaker 1: to Jack Jones playing that game. If he did, he

1071
00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:16,680
Speaker 1: didn't play a lot. I gotten mossed by Tyree here, right,

1072
00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:20,120
Speaker 1: Marcus Jones didn't play a ton. Jonathan Jones was still

1073
00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:23,359
Speaker 1: very new to playing on the boundaries. So we're really

1074
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:25,080
Speaker 1: not going to know until we know. With that kind

1075
00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:27,160
Speaker 1: of yeah, I think the hesitation that I have with

1076
00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:30,080
Speaker 1: the group maybe stems back from training camp and watching

1077
00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:33,440
Speaker 1: Davante Adams just dominate them for two days in Vegas,

1078
00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:36,520
Speaker 1: because that's one of those examples where like this is

1079
00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:39,560
Speaker 1: an outside receiver and you don't have a number one

1080
00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:42,160
Speaker 1: outside corner like Jonathan Jones is a number one outside

1081
00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:44,600
Speaker 1: corner in theory, but he's not a guy that matches

1082
00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:46,759
Speaker 1: up against Davanta Adams, right, Like he's a guy that

1083
00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:49,040
Speaker 1: can match up against Tyreek Hill. I think he can

1084
00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:51,719
Speaker 1: take Stefon Diggs, right. I think that Diggs is more

1085
00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:54,800
Speaker 1: of route runner than he is like a big body guide,

1086
00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:58,080
Speaker 1: big explosive receiver like Adams. The Raiders game I think

1087
00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:00,680
Speaker 1: is really interesting because it's like, is gonna be Jalen

1088
00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:03,480
Speaker 1: Mills that's gonna get Davante Adams? Are they going to

1089
00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:06,839
Speaker 1: trust Jack Jones at that point to be on Davante Adams? Now?

1090
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:11,520
Speaker 1: When I was watching Bill's Jets this past week, getting

1091
00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:14,400
Speaker 1: ahead on next week for the Jets, and also just

1092
00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:17,920
Speaker 1: watching the Bills a little bit. The thing that I

1093
00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:20,319
Speaker 1: couldn't get out of my head when watching the Bills

1094
00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:22,400
Speaker 1: because whenever I would watch any whenever I have a

1095
00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:25,560
Speaker 1: chance to watch Buffalo, all my thoughts are about watching

1096
00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:28,319
Speaker 1: Josh Allen in that offense is like what do they

1097
00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:30,719
Speaker 1: do differently? Right? Like what how can they match up

1098
00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:34,920
Speaker 1: against this? And I almost headed jokingly to myself, but

1099
00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:37,040
Speaker 1: I'm kind of serious, like how many dbs can they

1100
00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:39,480
Speaker 1: get on the field? Right? Like how many dbs is

1101
00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:42,279
Speaker 1: too many dbs because the way that I look at

1102
00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:49,319
Speaker 1: Buffalo right now is even even still right at this point,

1103
00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:52,160
Speaker 1: their running game is Josh Allen, right, like he's their

1104
00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:56,120
Speaker 1: best running he's our best ball carrier, right, And that's

1105
00:54:56,160 --> 00:54:58,640
Speaker 1: basically the design quarterback runs that they might be able

1106
00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:01,600
Speaker 1: to hit the Patriots with are worrisome for sure, But

1107
00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:05,600
Speaker 1: like you said, it's all about getting speed on the field, right,

1108
00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:09,560
Speaker 1: So can they play? I think now what the differences

1109
00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:11,800
Speaker 1: of what I'm getting at You mentioned the speed at corner,

1110
00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:13,960
Speaker 1: which I agree with you. I think they're faster at corner,

1111
00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:16,840
Speaker 1: but I also think they're deeper at safety, right because

1112
00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:22,040
Speaker 1: last year they did not have Jabriel Peppers. So is

1113
00:55:22,080 --> 00:55:25,799
Speaker 1: there a world against Buffalo where they can get all

1114
00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:29,759
Speaker 1: four safeties on the field at once? Because if they

1115
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:31,520
Speaker 1: can get all four of those guys, if they can

1116
00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:34,600
Speaker 1: get Dugger, Phillips, Peppers and Devon all on the field

1117
00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:36,719
Speaker 1: at once, then I think that they have a chance

1118
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:38,799
Speaker 1: because I think they have speed, and I think they

1119
00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:41,080
Speaker 1: have open field tacklers at that point, right, like they

1120
00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:44,760
Speaker 1: have guys that can bring people down, and Dugger Phillips

1121
00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:47,120
Speaker 1: is not as physical as Dugger and Peppers is, but

1122
00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:50,160
Speaker 1: he makes great reads from off the ball, and he

1123
00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:53,080
Speaker 1: has some of the best run fits out of anybody

1124
00:55:53,160 --> 00:55:55,920
Speaker 1: on the team. It really does. And Peppers and Dugger

1125
00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:59,319
Speaker 1: bring a physicality that I think Oldie Bentley really does

1126
00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:03,080
Speaker 1: at the backer spot. So to me, they the difference,

1127
00:56:03,160 --> 00:56:05,080
Speaker 1: the like trump card that they might have this year

1128
00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:10,600
Speaker 1: against Buffalo than they didn't have last year is basically

1129
00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:12,879
Speaker 1: like playing like a dollar package. Like they could play

1130
00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:14,840
Speaker 1: seven defensive back and the Bills still can't run the

1131
00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:19,040
Speaker 1: ball outside of Josh Allen himself. Which if and I've

1132
00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:22,200
Speaker 1: said this about Josh Allen for years, but now for real, Yeah,

1133
00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:26,600
Speaker 1: if I'm the Bills, you cannot have him run this much.

1134
00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:29,640
Speaker 1: You just can't. Patriots, he might have to run ten times.

1135
00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:33,239
Speaker 1: He might have to, and they might have to turn

1136
00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:35,520
Speaker 1: him into Justin Fields and Lamar Jackson ten times. It's

1137
00:56:35,560 --> 00:56:37,759
Speaker 1: not a lot for him. Ten times is a lot

1138
00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:41,000
Speaker 1: in terms of design what I'm saying, but all of it,

1139
00:56:41,160 --> 00:56:43,480
Speaker 1: all of it. You can't have him taking that many hits.

1140
00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:46,600
Speaker 1: You can't. And that's the way to beat him is

1141
00:56:46,640 --> 00:56:48,560
Speaker 1: to kind of just beat him up, right. That's what

1142
00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:50,440
Speaker 1: Matthew Judah and said when they asked him, like how

1143
00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:52,520
Speaker 1: do you how do you deal with mobile quarterbacks? Right?

1144
00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:54,879
Speaker 1: Hit him? It was the same same with Josh Allen.

1145
00:56:54,920 --> 00:56:56,160
Speaker 1: It was the same with Cam, It was the same

1146
00:56:56,200 --> 00:56:57,719
Speaker 1: with Vic. It's the same with any of these guys.

1147
00:56:57,800 --> 00:57:01,560
Speaker 1: Even Aaron Rodgers did an extent. Like the Bills still

1148
00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:03,560
Speaker 1: don't have a tradition of running game. So to your

1149
00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:06,399
Speaker 1: point about getting all four safeties on the field, if

1150
00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:09,000
Speaker 1: you only need two true defensive lineman, right, if you

1151
00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:11,600
Speaker 1: can go out there with just Dietrich Wise and Christian

1152
00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:14,839
Speaker 1: Barmore as your defensive lineman, it's a big help. Now,

1153
00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:17,000
Speaker 1: you know, if you think on first down, if you

1154
00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:20,160
Speaker 1: go out there with like Lawrence guy and Devon god

1155
00:57:20,200 --> 00:57:23,240
Speaker 1: Shaw and Barmore as a three man line, and maybe

1156
00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:25,400
Speaker 1: Judan as a fourth guy on the line of scrimmage,

1157
00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:29,040
Speaker 1: and you run like a four three, I mean, I

1158
00:57:29,120 --> 00:57:30,960
Speaker 1: think those four guys have a chance to hold up

1159
00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:33,640
Speaker 1: against any like, you know, as a devil singletary now

1160
00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:35,600
Speaker 1: or whatever. If the Bills are going to see that

1161
00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:38,040
Speaker 1: and decide to run the ball thirty thirty five times,

1162
00:57:38,080 --> 00:57:40,520
Speaker 1: you've won. That's what I'm saying, right, So make them

1163
00:57:40,600 --> 00:57:42,760
Speaker 1: do that. Yeah, I think that that's exactly what it is.

1164
00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:45,880
Speaker 1: It's it's like those old matchups against Peyton, right, Like

1165
00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:48,160
Speaker 1: it's like if you're gonna hand the ball off to

1166
00:57:48,280 --> 00:57:50,600
Speaker 1: No Sean Moreno forty times in this game, like, we

1167
00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:52,600
Speaker 1: consider that a win. Even if he runs for two

1168
00:57:52,680 --> 00:57:55,560
Speaker 1: hundred yards, we still consider that a win. So I

1169
00:57:55,720 --> 00:57:59,200
Speaker 1: think that that's the difference that they didn't have last year. John,

1170
00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:02,000
Speaker 1: like you mentioned, Nathan Jones was hurt. They didn't have

1171
00:58:02,120 --> 00:58:05,560
Speaker 1: the fourth guy at safety, they didn't have Peppers at safety.

1172
00:58:06,280 --> 00:58:11,360
Speaker 1: So now last year when they played Buffalo, especially in

1173
00:58:11,480 --> 00:58:14,480
Speaker 1: that second matchup, you know, the playoff game. I know

1174
00:58:14,560 --> 00:58:16,640
Speaker 1: everybody goes back to the playoff game because of the score,

1175
00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:19,680
Speaker 1: but they're they're like playing practice squad guys at corner

1176
00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:22,280
Speaker 1: and the playoff game. Okay, So really the game that

1177
00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:24,160
Speaker 1: worries me more is the second one because that was

1178
00:58:24,200 --> 00:58:28,360
Speaker 1: like your best, right, right, that's your best. DeVante Bosby's

1179
00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:30,560
Speaker 1: not gonna be out there, Jan Williams is right to

1180
00:58:30,560 --> 00:58:33,480
Speaker 1: be out there right those that second game here in Foxborough.

1181
00:58:33,560 --> 00:58:36,520
Speaker 1: That was your best eleven against their best eleven straight up.

1182
00:58:37,200 --> 00:58:40,880
Speaker 1: So in that game and they were an interception away

1183
00:58:40,920 --> 00:58:42,800
Speaker 1: from winning that game. In that game, they could not

1184
00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:46,080
Speaker 1: get Miles Bryan off the field. They had nobody else

1185
00:58:46,120 --> 00:58:48,880
Speaker 1: to put on ISAMH. McKenzie. They had no other answer

1186
00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:52,680
Speaker 1: for Isaah McKenzie because Jonathan Jones was hurt and Miles

1187
00:58:52,760 --> 00:58:55,920
Speaker 1: Bryant was their nickel, Like that's all they had this year.

1188
00:58:55,960 --> 00:58:58,080
Speaker 1: I think they have more depth there because the rookies.

1189
00:58:58,120 --> 00:59:00,440
Speaker 1: They have more depth at safety because of Pepper. So

1190
00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:03,880
Speaker 1: if Miles Bryan's getting beat like a drum again on

1191
00:59:04,040 --> 00:59:07,320
Speaker 1: Isaam McKenzie, well, then maybe you move Jonathan Jones inside,

1192
00:59:07,360 --> 00:59:09,360
Speaker 1: Maybe you put Jack Jones in the game. Maybe put

1193
00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:11,000
Speaker 1: Marcus Jones in the game, right, Like, do you have

1194
00:59:11,120 --> 00:59:13,920
Speaker 1: counters down too? So that's the hope I would give it,

1195
00:59:14,080 --> 00:59:16,080
Speaker 1: give you there's some hope. Yeah, I'm not saying they're

1196
00:59:16,080 --> 00:59:18,400
Speaker 1: gonna beat Buffalo. I'm just saying there's they're better equipped

1197
00:59:18,440 --> 00:59:23,919
Speaker 1: to do so Yeah, absolutely, all right, Tyler, what's going on? Tyler? Hey,

1198
00:59:24,080 --> 00:59:27,520
Speaker 1: this is a little off topic, more about the future

1199
00:59:27,600 --> 00:59:29,960
Speaker 1: of the show, and y'all may not know, but come

1200
00:59:30,080 --> 00:59:33,000
Speaker 1: draft time, would y'all be doing those videos where you

1201
00:59:33,160 --> 00:59:36,360
Speaker 1: do like mock drafts a singing later again, I was

1202
00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:39,000
Speaker 1: just cured, we're definitely going to be doing a ton

1203
00:59:39,160 --> 00:59:41,480
Speaker 1: of draft content on the show in the off season,

1204
00:59:41,520 --> 00:59:43,880
Speaker 1: for sure, And thanks for the call, Tyler. We're gonna

1205
00:59:43,920 --> 00:59:46,000
Speaker 1: try to do something like that. We haven't really worked

1206
00:59:46,040 --> 00:59:49,240
Speaker 1: out the logistics of how it's gonna be done exactly,

1207
00:59:49,360 --> 00:59:51,280
Speaker 1: but yeah, we're gonna we're gonna try our best to

1208
00:59:51,360 --> 00:59:53,400
Speaker 1: do the mocks or do some sort of symbol. Day

1209
00:59:53,440 --> 00:59:55,280
Speaker 1: after the Super Bowl, I will be blowing up Evan's

1210
00:59:55,280 --> 00:59:57,160
Speaker 1: phone about what we're gonna do for the draft. All right,

1211
00:59:57,240 --> 00:59:59,280
Speaker 1: last call here, and then we got to wrap it up. Andrew,

1212
00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:08,080
Speaker 1: what's going on, Andrew? Andrew? Andrew, Hey ah, sound wow?

1213
01:00:08,160 --> 01:00:10,760
Speaker 1: The last one? All right? Well, that's all right, we

1214
01:00:10,840 --> 01:00:13,000
Speaker 1: got We're at the hour martin anyway, so we gotta

1215
01:00:13,040 --> 01:00:15,680
Speaker 1: call it a day. Give me before we wrap up

1216
01:00:15,760 --> 01:00:19,480
Speaker 1: really quickly, just don't go too deep into this. Oh boy,

1217
01:00:19,720 --> 01:00:22,520
Speaker 1: give me the one thing that you want them to

1218
01:00:22,640 --> 01:00:24,960
Speaker 1: fix during the bye weekend. You can't say mac Jones

1219
01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:28,439
Speaker 1: because that's like, dude, I know it's it's the offensive line.

1220
01:00:28,440 --> 01:00:30,320
Speaker 1: The offensive line will fix everything out. That's a really

1221
01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:34,000
Speaker 1: easy question, really, the offensive line, because it fixing the

1222
01:00:34,080 --> 01:00:36,640
Speaker 1: offensive line fixes at least to an extent, Mac Jones.

1223
01:00:36,680 --> 01:00:39,520
Speaker 1: It fixes the wide receivers, It fixes elements of the offense,

1224
01:00:39,760 --> 01:00:42,959
Speaker 1: the offensive line, there any other It's not an opinion question.

1225
01:00:43,040 --> 01:00:45,840
Speaker 1: That's the correct answer. That is the correct answer. So

1226
01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:48,400
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you another answer just because you already

1227
01:00:48,440 --> 01:00:52,520
Speaker 1: gave the correct answer. You like being wrong. Wow. If

1228
01:00:52,640 --> 01:00:55,160
Speaker 1: the Patriots do not come off this bye week and

1229
01:00:55,400 --> 01:00:58,240
Speaker 1: run a downfield RPO, I'm gonna lose my mind, Alex,

1230
01:00:58,320 --> 01:01:00,680
Speaker 1: I'm gonna lose my mind. I'm gonna start yelling. I'm

1231
01:01:00,680 --> 01:01:03,240
Speaker 1: gonna lose my mind. I'm gonna get all viled up

1232
01:01:03,280 --> 01:01:05,360
Speaker 1: like I did when John Rook got me riled up

1233
01:01:05,360 --> 01:01:07,760
Speaker 1: about Bailey z Appy and Marie and my god, you

1234
01:01:07,840 --> 01:01:09,520
Speaker 1: gotta have a block to throw it down the field.

1235
01:01:09,760 --> 01:01:14,200
Speaker 1: If they do not start expanding this RPO package beyond,

1236
01:01:14,480 --> 01:01:17,160
Speaker 1: if I see another inside zone RPO the bubble screen,

1237
01:01:17,200 --> 01:01:18,800
Speaker 1: I'm gonna lose my mind. And you are going to

1238
01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:20,959
Speaker 1: really like what I'm writing for ninety eight five sports

1239
01:01:21,040 --> 01:01:24,240
Speaker 1: up dot com this week. Nice tis no more, not

1240
01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:27,120
Speaker 1: no more bubble screens off RPOs. But we gotta we

1241
01:01:27,240 --> 01:01:30,000
Speaker 1: gotta graduate just other ar no I got. Honestly, I

1242
01:01:30,160 --> 01:01:32,760
Speaker 1: love bubble screen RPOs. I think they're fine. And when

1243
01:01:32,760 --> 01:01:35,320
Speaker 1: you run them in the right spots. They're very effective. Yeah,

1244
01:01:35,720 --> 01:01:38,000
Speaker 1: but part of what makes them so effective is when

1245
01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:40,520
Speaker 1: you set them up with other RPOs. Right, Yes, I'm

1246
01:01:40,560 --> 01:01:42,800
Speaker 1: fine if they keep running them, just start adding to them.

1247
01:01:42,920 --> 01:01:45,160
Speaker 1: I gotta be honest. I think this often should be

1248
01:01:45,240 --> 01:01:48,920
Speaker 1: twenty percent RPOs. Right, Alabama Mac Jones is last the

1249
01:01:49,080 --> 01:01:52,280
Speaker 1: lead percentage is like twelve thirteen percent. Yeah. Mac Jones's

1250
01:01:52,400 --> 01:01:55,800
Speaker 1: last season in Alabama they were nineteen percent RPO. All right,

1251
01:01:56,080 --> 01:01:58,320
Speaker 1: they should be twenty percent no one else. I know

1252
01:01:58,360 --> 01:02:00,000
Speaker 1: you said be quick, but one more point, because I've

1253
01:02:00,000 --> 01:02:02,720
Speaker 1: and thinking about RPOs a lot. Be quick. In Alex's versions,

1254
01:02:02,720 --> 01:02:05,920
Speaker 1: like ten minutes later. One of the best individual attributes

1255
01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:09,480
Speaker 1: for any player on the offense is Rmandre Stevenson's field vision.

1256
01:02:09,560 --> 01:02:12,320
Speaker 1: Would you disagree with that or just reminder Stevenson No,

1257
01:02:12,400 --> 01:02:14,520
Speaker 1: But like when if we're going into individual traits, right,

1258
01:02:14,680 --> 01:02:16,800
Speaker 1: what makes Romandra so good? I think his field vision

1259
01:02:16,880 --> 01:02:18,040
Speaker 1: is a big part of it. He sees the field

1260
01:02:18,080 --> 01:02:22,080
Speaker 1: incredibly well. Yeah, that that plays huge on RPOs. That

1261
01:02:22,160 --> 01:02:25,200
Speaker 1: plays huge. Forget the mac part of it, right, which

1262
01:02:25,360 --> 01:02:27,280
Speaker 1: obviously matters, But I'm just saying put that aside for

1263
01:02:27,320 --> 01:02:30,800
Speaker 1: a second. Romandra is also a great RPO back. Oh yeah,

1264
01:02:30,840 --> 01:02:32,919
Speaker 1: so you could take advantage of this on both sides

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Speaker 1: of him, yeah, he says. And Damion Harris too, Obviously

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Speaker 1: he ran him a ton at Alabama. But he says

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Speaker 1: it all the time Remandra that he prefers running like

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Speaker 1: that because he can make cuts and reads on his own, right,

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Speaker 1: He's not like following a blocker or something like that,

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Speaker 1: and opens it up. That's how he ran at Oklahoma,

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Speaker 1: those spread formations, and I I you know what Oklahoma's

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Speaker 1: RPO percentages, it's high, right, pretty high? Yeah, yeah, or

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Speaker 1: at least when it was Lincoln when yeah back and yeah,

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Speaker 1: so when with Remandra, he's always talked about, I like

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Speaker 1: running from spread formations because lightens the box and it

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Speaker 1: gives me freedom to make cuts and make reads. That's

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Speaker 1: the biggest thing to me, is like the under center stuff.

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Speaker 1: It's like, okay, we're putting the quarterback under center. We're

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Speaker 1: getting a single high against it. There's seven eight guys

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Speaker 1: in the box, and like, if you don't have a

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Speaker 1: dominant offensive line, you're just not running the ball against

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Speaker 1: those looks. So the RPO allows you to open up

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Speaker 1: the box, right, It puts six guys in the box

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Speaker 1: against your five, and now there's conflict in the defense

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Speaker 1: off off the you know, the pass action on the outside,

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Speaker 1: and now you're reading guys and you're creating conflict, and

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Speaker 1: you're creating lighter numbers in the middle of the field.

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Speaker 1: They've been really good at running the football out of

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Speaker 1: the gun. Five yards per attempt out of the gun,

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Speaker 1: three and a half from under center. Like this is

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Speaker 1: all these numbers are just staring right at him. I

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Speaker 1: wrote this Patriots dot Com today, so you can check

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Speaker 1: that out. What I would say, everybody gets all excited

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Speaker 1: about RPOs, about the past elements of it, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and yo, you can expand the passing game with RPOs.

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Speaker 1: It is a run pass option. Yeah, you can also

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Speaker 1: make plays in the running game with them as well.

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Speaker 1: I feel like that gets because the modern error and

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Speaker 1: the nerds and they're running the football, the run element

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Speaker 1: is running the football against light boxes off of like RPO.

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Speaker 1: Like the nerds are okay with that? All right, I

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Speaker 1: don't know, but all right, anyways, so h like we said,

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Speaker 1: fix the offensive line, run more just sophisticated RPOs. That's

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Speaker 1: the fix for the offense. Yes, step three profit. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so we'll be back next Wednesday, same time, same place

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Speaker 1: to talk about the New York Jets. This is a

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Speaker 1: weird one to play the Jets this closely together. They

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Speaker 1: only have one They're off this week as well. So

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Speaker 1: they played Buffalo last week and then play you again

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Speaker 1: after the buy, just like you played the Colts and

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Speaker 1: then play the Bills, or then play the Jets. Excuse

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Speaker 1: me right off the by so big big game here

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Speaker 1: in Foxborough, Patriots Jets. We'll have you covered here on

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Speaker 1: Patriots Catch twenty two full preview next Wednesday. We'll see

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