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Speaker 1: Up, came Happy New Year.

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Speaker 2: Happy do you Andrew?

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Speaker 1: How are we doing doing well? So I did a

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Speaker 1: new one. First, He's gonna ask you about Jaalen, Riger's

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Speaker 1: returner for Drive. Just went to at length about a

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Speaker 1: report that he has rubbed people the wrong way in

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Speaker 1: the building from just speaking for yourself from your perspective,

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Speaker 1: have you sense that from Drod No?

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Speaker 2: I mean I think raw shows are ready to work

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Speaker 2: every day. I think all of our coaches do. I

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Speaker 2: think the biggest thing right now, we're all just doing

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Speaker 2: our job right now and showing up every day. We're

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Speaker 2: ready to work, standing through the process and just every

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Speaker 2: day going out there competing to get.

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Speaker 1: Better, appreciate it. And then on Jalen, what what did

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Speaker 1: he do to earn the role of returning which actually

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Speaker 1: he thrived in there on Sunday.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, No, Jalen's doing a really good job for since

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Speaker 2: he's been back there. Obviously, you look at how he

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Speaker 2: hits the seam, the vertical speed, you know, the ability

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Speaker 2: to run through arm tackles and trust the run alley.

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Speaker 2: You know. I think the guys and in general have

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Speaker 2: all bought into that and doing really good job blocking

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Speaker 2: and taking pride pride and doing the little things out

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Speaker 2: there and extra and Jalen's really stepped up. He's in

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Speaker 2: tuned everything and he knows who's supposed to read and

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Speaker 2: how he's supposed to make the cuts. And he's shown

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Speaker 2: a really good job throughout progress, through practices and then

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Speaker 2: obviously getting the ability to turn that start and role.

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Speaker 1: Of course, appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: Cam, Thanks Andrew.

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Speaker 1: Next question, Bob says.

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Speaker 3: He thanks Steph. Hey, Cam. We started the season asking

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Speaker 3: a lot of questions about the new kickoff fair catch

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Speaker 3: rule inside the twenty five and I'm curious now, particularly

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Speaker 3: after you see Jalen take one back Matty eight yards

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Speaker 3: and have a couple of other returns of length in

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Speaker 3: recent weeks overall thoughts about how the rule affected the

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Speaker 3: game this year. What have you seen from your own

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Speaker 3: lens and what have you seen from watching games around

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's definitely affected the game. I think

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Speaker 2: less teams are wanting to return the football. You've seen that.

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Speaker 2: I haven't really done a full league calculated study. I'll

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Speaker 2: do that once the season's over and once we wrap

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Speaker 2: up kind of look at when teams fair called at

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Speaker 2: versus they did. I do know and cross or film.

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Speaker 2: There's probably more fair catches than I thought that there

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Speaker 2: think obviously you're missing out on opportunities to generate a

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Speaker 2: start on the twenty five yard line, and you've got

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Speaker 2: to make that judgment whether you think starting on call

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Speaker 2: And I think it's each team is different. I think

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Speaker 2: we're not playing this phase. We don't have a dynamic guy.

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Speaker 2: I think there's gonna be a lot of different things

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Speaker 2: never want to miss. So I think our guys have

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Speaker 2: taken a lot of pride in it. I know it's

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Speaker 2: Situation like We've talked about we will fair catch if

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Speaker 2: we need to, if that's the best interest of it team,

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Speaker 2: But we want to continue to have the opportunity and

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Speaker 2: I think our guys know that we want to be aggressive.

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Speaker 2: We want to return the football, especially if the ball

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Speaker 2: is in the field, to play right there. Kim.

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Speaker 3: This kind of relates to that rule and the reaction

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Speaker 3: the small community of Special Teams core players like Matthew

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Speaker 3: like I think it was Michael Thomas, like the coaches

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Speaker 3: want to ask about your your relationships with your peers

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we are all close knit. I think

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Speaker 2: you know it's definitely that environment of you know, talking

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Speaker 2: the players in general, our relationship with them, they really appreciate, Like, look,

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Speaker 2: Thomas you mentioned, you know, or some other younger guys.

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Speaker 2: You know, they really appreciate the teams that are and

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Speaker 2: teams that play in the kicking game and make difference

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Speaker 2: you know, from a coaching standpoint, we've all we do taught,

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Speaker 2: we do communicate, and we are a tight knit group,

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Speaker 2: and it's letting everyone know that the kicking game is

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Speaker 2: a factor, is something that we value in It's a

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Speaker 2: third phase of the game, and it's a chance to

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Speaker 2: either make or break your season will depending on how

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Speaker 3: Hey, Cam, thanks a lot and thanks for everything all

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Speaker 3: season long.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate it. Bob, thank you, thank you.

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Speaker 1: And next question, Mike Giatti.

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Speaker 4: Have you new year camp a new year?

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Speaker 1: Mike?

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Speaker 2: How we doing.

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Speaker 4: I'm doing pretty well. So it seems like we ask

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Speaker 4: you a question about Matthew Slater every week, but as

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Speaker 4: this could be his last game, I think a lot

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Speaker 4: of hinted at it. What's he meant to you? What's

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Speaker 4: he meant to the organization since you've been there?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you can't put into words in a

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Speaker 2: Slater's meant to not just ment myself individually, this organization

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Speaker 2: the true test I believe of call it. You know,

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Speaker 2: if you could create a football player that to coach,

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Speaker 2: like he's gonna be the leader off the locker room.

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Speaker 2: He's gonna walk that line and he's gonna push guys.

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Speaker 2: He's gonna bring younger guys along with him. He's gonna

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Speaker 2: He's gonna push guys to be great human beings, great

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Speaker 2: falls off the field, I think, and even with coaches myself,

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Speaker 2: he's had, you know, multiple coaches come in. You know,

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Speaker 2: he's the guy that's gonna listen. First, he's gonna see

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Speaker 2: what your perspective are. Then he's gonna, hey, what about this.

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Speaker 2: It's never gonna be combative with him. And then the

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Speaker 2: competitivency shows out there. I mean it's unrivaled. You can

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Speaker 2: see him on game day. I know y'all deal with

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Speaker 2: great things at Mount Matt's. Later. I could sit here

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Speaker 2: Mike about how much he's to me as a coach,

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Speaker 2: and you know, the last six years that we've been together,

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Speaker 2: just look over there and you know, man's thirty eight

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Speaker 2: sign up to do it, you're all in till the end.

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Speaker 2: And that's the way he goes about every day. There's

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Speaker 2: mean you saw that last week. He's still freaking run

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Speaker 2: Guy I said, he can't put into words how much

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Speaker 2: from Chris Ryan. Thank you.

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Speaker 5: Have you do here?

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Speaker 2: Have you do your Chris?

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Speaker 5: How are we doing?

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Speaker 4: I'm doing well.

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Speaker 5: I want to ask about Chad Ryland. Obviously it looked

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Speaker 5: tough day in Buffalo. How do you explain his season?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you know, if you look at the results,

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Speaker 2: And then I think it's the willpower to you know,

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Speaker 2: he's got to continue to be better. It's you know,

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Speaker 2: I said, he he's a guy that's gonna work. I

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Speaker 2: think he'll only improve going in. I think he's made

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Speaker 2: whole body of work. And it's not been the greatest

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Speaker 2: year for him, but you know, he continue to work

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Speaker 2: and get better, and that's all we can ask for him.

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Speaker 5: He said, you've said and obviously Bill is alluded to

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Speaker 5: the fact that he's consistently made kicks in practice when

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Speaker 5: it's not correlating from practice to the game. Is that

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Speaker 5: a mental issue kind of like you were alluding to,

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Speaker 5: or how would you describe it?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think it's such a mental issue, be

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Speaker 2: honest with you. I just think, you know, it's one

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Speaker 2: of those things where you know, whether it's the ball

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Speaker 2: just doesn't come off the foot correctly, or you know,

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Speaker 2: doesn't see it all the way through. I think those

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Speaker 2: the off seasons to get more of the game environment

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Speaker 2: kicks as the best we can and try to do

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Speaker 2: some brainstorming, like we said, kind of done different things

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Speaker 2: of practice just to implement as much game like scenarios

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Speaker 2: as we can. And that's what you try to do

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Speaker 2: for the players in general, not just Chad, is you

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Speaker 2: try to implement as much game situations as you can

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Speaker 2: so when it does come up in the game, they're

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Speaker 2: able to execute. So I don't know if it's a

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Speaker 2: mental block for the game or anything like that would

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Speaker 2: say that, because I think every kick is its own kick,

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Speaker 2: and I think he does a great job of mentally

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Speaker 2: handling like each rapid practice he knows is a different

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Speaker 2: one than the last one, and he knows these game reps.

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Speaker 2: So that's why I think you do see him make

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Speaker 2: the big kicks at times when he makes them, and

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Speaker 2: then there's other times that you know, we're obviously haven't

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Speaker 2: been successful.

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Speaker 4: Thank you, Thanks Chris, thank you very much, Ken.

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Speaker 2: Thanks everybody. Happy New Year,