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Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George

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Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe, Ketty.

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Speaker 2: Arm Strong and Jettie and now he Armstrong and Yetty.

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Speaker 3: John Stewart was hilarious last night on the Daily Show

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Speaker 3: about the whole Biden media Jake Tapper book, thaning, we'll

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Speaker 3: get to that later this hour, and then I'm reading

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Speaker 3: the damn books. You don't have to and got an

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Speaker 3: example of Biden frightening the hell out of high level

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Speaker 3: Democrats when he was gonna run in twenty It should

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Speaker 3: have ended there, right, but it didn't.

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Speaker 2: More on that later.

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Speaker 4: Your headline was this book is unintentionally hilarious release. So

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Speaker 4: a handful of important headline on the immigration front. First

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Speaker 4: of all, you may have heard the Supreme Court has

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Speaker 4: allowed Trump to strip the legal status from Venezuelan migrants.

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Speaker 4: They'd been granted temporary what's its status by Biden, and

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Speaker 4: now Trump has just undone that.

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Speaker 2: So their right to.

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Speaker 4: Live and work in the US just by the presidential

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Speaker 4: fiat has ended. A previous lower court has said no,

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Speaker 4: you can't do that. Supreme Court said, yes you can.

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Speaker 4: Justice Katanji Brown Jackson, who has no idea what it

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Speaker 4: means to be a Supreme Court justice was the only

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Speaker 4: noted descent. A couple more headlines very quickly a couple

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Speaker 4: of examples. The government of Arlington County, Virginia, which is

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Speaker 4: just across from DC, just across the river, is putting

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Speaker 4: even more restrictions on police from working with federal immigration authorities.

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Speaker 4: Democrat county board members moving to prevent police from working

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Speaker 4: with ICE during local rests by eliminating a section of

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Speaker 4: the county's trust policy. They are trying to make it

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Speaker 4: impossible for the federal authorities to safely take into custody

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Speaker 4: illegal immigrants who are felons and.

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Speaker 3: Eighty twenty issue nationally, and they're on the twenty side

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Speaker 3: of it. It is absolutely insane. Keep doing it, Democrats,

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Speaker 3: see if you win any elections.

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Speaker 2: And then there's this story out there.

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Speaker 4: It is Nashville's Democrat mayor orders police to report ICE

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Speaker 4: operations to his Office of New Americans, So if the

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Speaker 4: cops see ICE doing anything, they are required to report

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Speaker 4: it to the local government so that he and the

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Speaker 4: government can again thwart the federal authorities from taking into

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Speaker 4: custody illegal aliens who are criminals. It is obscene, It

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Speaker 4: is bizarre. Speaking of bizarre and surprising, who is standing

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Speaker 4: up against this but the new guy in town in LA.

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Speaker 4: Bill Malugin of Fox News. It's gonna tell us about

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Speaker 4: Operation Guardian Angel. Michael will start with sixty and roll

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Speaker 4: from there.

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Speaker 2: Hit it.

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Speaker 5: With this operation, we're going to be neutralizing California sanctuary

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Speaker 5: state policies.

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Speaker 2: Bill A.

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Speaker 6: Salee is the US attorney in LA and the architect

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Speaker 6: of Operation Guardian Angel.

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Speaker 2: All right, guys, thanks for shir going up.

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Speaker 6: The sale has created a federal task force made up

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Speaker 6: of ICE, HSI, FBI, DEA, and ATF agents.

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Speaker 2: How does CRIMINALI street pat the domestic finance?

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Speaker 6: They scan these criminal databases daily to find illegal aliens

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Speaker 6: in local jails who have been previously deported from the

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Speaker 6: United States. If they've returned to the US, they've committed

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Speaker 6: a federal felony known as illegal re entry, and A

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Speaker 6: Sale's office will immediately seek a criminal arrest warrant against them, which,

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Speaker 6: unlike an ICE detainer, jails and sanctuary jurisdictions can't ignore.

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Speaker 5: We're going to flood the system with warrants for criminal

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Speaker 5: illegal immigrants that are in county jails. They can ignore

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Speaker 4: Now, this is a half measure. It's brilliant and effective.

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Speaker 4: The fact that we can only go this far to

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Speaker 4: you know, convicts who've re entered illegally and they're therefore

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Speaker 4: guilty of a felony. So an arrest weren't not a

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Speaker 4: nice detainer. I mean, it's really frustrating that they have

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Speaker 4: to take that tack, but I'm glad they're doing it.

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Speaker 2: It's a good strategy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I'm on one hand, can't believe it's happening.

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Speaker 3: On the other hand, I can't believe it didn't happen earlier. Again,

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Speaker 3: it's like an eighty twenty issue.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, And it's very odd and frustrating that

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Speaker 6: Next clip, Michael, the Federal Task Force brought us with

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Speaker 2: They have no choice.

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Speaker 5: They will comply, and if they don't comply, if they

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Speaker 4: Good Again, that same cooperation ought to be absolutely required.

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Speaker 4: This guy has a notice of deportation, you have him

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Speaker 2: Obviously. Obviously last clip.

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Speaker 6: Task force officials tell us once they're up and running

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Speaker 6: at full steam, they project they're going to be arresting

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Speaker 6: anywhere between forty and fifty aliens from local jails in

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Speaker 6: southern California every single week. They say, if they're successful

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Speaker 6: in doing this here in Los Angeles, what they're doing

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Speaker 6: could be used as a model elsewhere in the country

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Speaker 6: to neutralize other sanctuary jurisdictions at.

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Speaker 4: Least passingly familiar on the need for confidentiality and some

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Speaker 4: of the stuff. But I think it's interesting that it's

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Speaker 4: a task force of the ATF and the FBI and

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Speaker 4: all those agencies they're talking about.

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Speaker 2: The DEA.

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Speaker 4: You know, I would volunteer ten hours a week or

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Speaker 4: certainly four if all you have to do is go

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Speaker 4: through databases and cross match. Okay, who's in jail, has

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Speaker 2: And is subject to this?

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Speaker 4: I mean, you have these vigilante folks who want to

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Speaker 4: patrol the border. It's not a great idea. I understand

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Speaker 4: why they did it, but man, you could have volunteers

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Speaker 4: doing this sort of computer work to help out the FEDS.

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Speaker 2: Man, I'd do that, Yeah, voluntier in a minute. What's that?

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Speaker 3: It's not dangerous? Oh no, what the border is? Well,

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Speaker 3: and it's it's a silly data entry thing. You shouldn't

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Speaker 3: have some big set of a bit. Youes trained in

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Speaker 3: every aspect of policing, including firearms and the rest of it,

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Speaker 3: and combat and blah blah.

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Speaker 2: He's wearing body are or and the rest of it.

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Speaker 4: Sitting there tapping into a keyboard to try to figure out,

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Speaker 4: you know, who satisfies these two or three criterion. But anyway,

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Speaker 4: I love the program, Bill mallusion of Fox News.

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Speaker 3: So Friday, I left the show early. I don't if

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Speaker 3: you remember that. I had to get to the I

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Speaker 3: my I'm getting my real ID. I got all the

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Speaker 2: Who you are? So I had to dig my mill

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Speaker 3: So I had my original I had my original birth

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Speaker 2: And I handed over the paperwork or whatever.

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Speaker 3: Thank God, now they know and I know I'm not

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Speaker 3: there to hijack a plane and fly it into the

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Speaker 3: World Trade Center. And I did all that, and then

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Speaker 3: I got my picture taken. And also sin Celestia, before.

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Speaker 4: You get to that, I'm sorry, before you get to that,

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Speaker 4: but can I have a word with uncle Sam very

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Speaker 4: very briefly, Samuel, let me point this out. If I

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Speaker 2: Face, they wouldn't know or care.

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Speaker 4: They would say, all right, Joe, dog Face getty, here's

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Speaker 4: where you send you your money every month?

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Speaker 2: Right, Just make sure he doesn't constitute proof of anything.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, but I had I had to have

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Speaker 3: an original copy of the bill, which I did. I

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Speaker 3: get it. You know, it's all online like most people are.

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Speaker 3: So I went to downtown to the city Hall and

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Speaker 2: On it, copy of the bill. I mean, it was

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Speaker 2: just ridiculous hoops.

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Speaker 3: But one thing that they ancientce The last time I

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Speaker 3: It's always been hair color, which have always me and

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Speaker 3: Down brown or black or future or whatever you want.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't make a difference. I ain't got no hair, right,

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Speaker 3: and now you can put bald. Yeah, finally, yeah, I

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Speaker 3: haven't gotten it in the rail neck for your people.

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Speaker 3: I don't know why they don't let you look at

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Speaker 3: your picture. They didn't and then and then retake it,

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Speaker 3: I guess, sir in a hurry. But I have no

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Speaker 3: that's no good, and that's the picture they'll use if

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Speaker 2: True. Yeah, I know. If I committed a crime, that's different.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, oh right, I go missing or something like that,

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, you know, I fall down a ravine

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Speaker 4: If you see this squinty eyed freak call the authorities,

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Speaker 4: probably still has something in his teeth. So a couple

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Speaker 3: Of domestic truckers. Everybody knows that. Yeah, yeah, I know.

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Speaker 4: I thought we had a big well we do have

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Speaker 4: a big shortage, but you can't get it as an

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Speaker 4: So there's not a shortage of truckers. There's a shortage

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Speaker 4: a Mexican illegal immigrant wages.

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Speaker 2: Correct, which is true with a lot of industries. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: So they cross over into our country with the load,

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Speaker 4: they drop off the load. They're supposed to go right back.

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Speaker 4: They can carry a load if they want, but no,

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Speaker 4: this was interesting Wall Street Journal report that the big

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Speaker 4: mass deportation push that we've heard so much about it

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Speaker 4: has not affected the migrant labor force participation in Iota.

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Speaker 4: In fact, it seems to be up the general sentiment being, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I'm a little concerned about like getting rounded up and deported,

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Speaker 4: but I got to go to work.

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Speaker 2: I got bills. Well, they're also smart enough to figure

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Speaker 3: Interesting essay in the New York Times today about porn

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Speaker 3: that I want to mention one my hot topics internet porn.

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Speaker 3: We'll get to the Biden book and other stuff this hour,

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Speaker 2: But I think you can't do that.

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Speaker 4: The rewiring of the human brain. And again, if it's adolescents,

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Speaker 2: When you forget a white guy's name, to be fair.

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Speaker 3: Hey, Jake Sullivan, how many other people do you know

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Speaker 3: This is gonna be hard to take, but it happened,

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Speaker 2: Can I have my credibility back?

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Speaker 4: you lost.

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Speaker 3: It, As John Stewart said of the book, forgetting about

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Speaker 3: the fact of how effing weird it is that the

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Speaker 3: News is selling you a book about news they should

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Speaker 3: have told you.

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Speaker 2: Was news a year ago, for free. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I think this is actually underappreciated as a story. Way

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Speaker 3: too many people are turning it into a like a

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Speaker 3: partisan thing. How does this hurt that party or help

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Speaker 3: that party or whatever? Just the overall cynicism. I'm I'm man.

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Speaker 3: If you listen to the show, I talk about being

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Speaker 3: cynical all the time, I'm pretty damn cynical. I'm now

452
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Speaker 3: willing to believe practically anything that that. I mean, conspiracy

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Speaker 3: theories are ripe for the pick and now, because you

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Speaker 3: had people who.

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Speaker 2: Are willing to go this far in twenty twenty.

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Speaker 3: Hiding a guy that had no business being president of

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Speaker 3: the United States.

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Speaker 2: How many people had to know, how many hundreds.

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Speaker 3: Of people had to know that and keep it a

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Speaker 3: secrete along with the media. Why would I believe anything

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Speaker 3: at this point? Yeah, you've got the importance of the lie. Obviously,

462
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Speaker 3: the guy's running for Potos. You've got the enormity of

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Speaker 3: the lie because he is just so clearly gone. And

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Speaker 3: then you've got the duration of the lie, and that's

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Speaker 3: an all three matter. But that's astounding. That's the part

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Speaker 3: that makes me really cynical. I mean, because we all

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Speaker 3: had all this information, the polls said what they said,

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Speaker 3: but the inner circle just lied and lied and lied,

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Speaker 3: and those who would tend to want to believe those lies,

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Speaker 3: Jake Tapper went along with it for years and years.

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Speaker 3: That is enough to make you cynical. We do have

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Speaker 3: a fresh new clip of Tapper and well this is

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Speaker 3: from the deceat themselves CBS News today as Jake Tapper. So,

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Speaker 3: the book officially came out today. I started reading it

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Speaker 3: last night. Asking presidential candidates about their health is difficult.

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Speaker 3: They say, okay, well, let's hear from Jake Tapper and

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Speaker 3: Alex Thompson trying to defend their book.

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Speaker 9: One of the things that this news does, I think,

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Speaker 9: is highlight how difficult health issues are for reporters to cover,

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Speaker 9: because these are the most sensitive, personal, intrusive questions that

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Speaker 9: you can ask, so separately on what we uncovered in

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Speaker 9: our book, these are difficult questions to ask people in

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Speaker 9: the White House about and we were repeatedly Alex was

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Speaker 9: very aggressive covering this as a White House reporter, we

485
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Speaker 9: were repeatedly lied to by people in the White House

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Speaker 9: who were always saying, he's fine, he's fine, he's fine.

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Speaker 9: After the election, Alex and I said we need to

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Speaker 9: find out what really happened because that was just crazy.

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Speaker 9: What did the American people just go through? And we

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Speaker 9: talked to more than two hundred Democratic insiders, all of

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Speaker 9: these interviews, almost all of them after the election, and

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Speaker 9: what we found out was shocking, just the degree to

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Speaker 9: which he was addled. Increasingly, they were almost like two Bidens,

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Speaker 9: a fine Biden, the one you saw on the rag

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Speaker 9: in twenty twenty in a non functioning Biden.

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Speaker 1: So but did you guys think the age were being

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Speaker 1: deceitful or did you think that they really believed that

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Speaker 1: he was going to be okay elese then he would

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Speaker 1: be able to do the job.

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Speaker 10: I think some of the early steps were done with

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Speaker 10: innocent enough reasons you want your principle to look good.

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Speaker 10: But as his diminishment increased, some of those actions became

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Speaker 10: increasingly deceitful. Because the fact is that the Biden that

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Speaker 10: we saw on the debate stage last June.

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Speaker 2: He had other.

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Speaker 10: Moments like that behind the scenes, and increasingly so, and

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Speaker 10: they started structuring his schedule, his public schedule to make

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Speaker 10: sure that the public didn't see it, and even some

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Speaker 10: people inside their own administration, their own white House, their

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Speaker 10: own cannet.

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Speaker 3: Now, so the question that Gail King, astronaut Gail King

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Speaker 3: should have asked as an astronaut, is and nobody's asked

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Speaker 3: this yet to my knowledge, how do.

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Speaker 2: You square this?

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Speaker 11: Jake?

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Speaker 3: Two thirds of more Americans knew it and you didn't

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Speaker 3: go right.

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Speaker 2: What is your answer for that? Jim? What is it about.

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Speaker 4: You, your job, your attitudes that blinded you to what

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Speaker 4: was so plainly true to the vast majority of Americans?

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Speaker 2: Jake?

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Speaker 4: Seriously, literally two hundred million people knew it and you didn't.

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Speaker 3: Now talk, Jim and Cheyenne in a little house in

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Speaker 3: a cul de sac knew it, got no sources. And

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Speaker 3: Linda in Florida, who lives in an apartment, she knew

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Speaker 3: it with no sources.

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Speaker 2: Explain that.

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Speaker 4: I mean, come on, well, Jake would say, people we

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Speaker 4: knew and trusted lied to us constantly.

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Speaker 2: We were a misled.

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Speaker 4: I would argue, well, they told you to ignore the

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Speaker 4: evidence of your eyes and ears.

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Speaker 2: That's always a bad idea.

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Speaker 4: And you don't bs a BS or Jake his opening

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Speaker 4: stuff about health concerns are always very, very sensitive. Now

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Speaker 4: we're not talking about whether he has IBS or a

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Speaker 4: rectile difficulties. We're talking about whether he has dementia, which

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Speaker 4: is undeniably obviously fundamental to his ability.

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Speaker 2: To carry out the duties of the president of the

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Speaker 2: United States.

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Speaker 3: Really, and you can't get around the fact that you

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Speaker 3: didn't ask the hard questions of guests on your show,

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Speaker 3: as we pointed out last week, when you hear the

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Speaker 3: long versions.

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Speaker 2: Of those you didn't push back. He was the opposite.

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Speaker 2: He was an activist in shooting them down.

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Speaker 3: It's so frustrating because it doesn't matter what happens to

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Speaker 3: Jake Tapper's career, but it does matter that now everybody

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Speaker 3: is willing to believe any crazy conspiracy theory.

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Speaker 2: And it got added to in the last four days.

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Speaker 3: The Biden people put out their new prostate cancer information

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Speaker 3: the day the her tape drops. I mean, come on,

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Speaker 3: nobody's gonna buy that. Every doctor I saw on every

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Speaker 3: show yesterday said they knew it years ago. They had

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Speaker 3: to have.

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Speaker 4: It's just it doesn't make it well right in the

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Speaker 4: her tapes are pretty devastating to have you actually listened.

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Speaker 3: I don't think most people have heard clips like we played.

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Speaker 3: Has anybody sat down and listened to his full eleven

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Speaker 3: minute answer? If you listen to the whole thing in

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Speaker 3: its entirety, it is jaw dropping. There's something about hearing

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Speaker 3: the whole thing that makes you go, oh my god.

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Speaker 2: And what was he asked? What was the question?

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Speaker 3: It was fairly straight, so some simple question like you

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Speaker 3: know what your did bode or something? Anyway, goes on

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Speaker 3: this eleven minute tells his entire placeolitical story from when

567
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Speaker 3: he was a kid, rambling old man's story, whispering it

568
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Speaker 3: with all kinds of wrong details. It's it's and to

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Speaker 3: think that that guy was in meetings with Steve Sullivan

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Speaker 3: regularly discussing whether or not we should bomb a ran

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Speaker 3: or something.

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Speaker 8: It's crazy.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of dementia. I don't remember. Did we play the

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Speaker 2: Van Jones clip this segment? No, we have not.

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Speaker 3: We get we got we ought to play that and

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Speaker 3: Joe Scarborough went on Halprin's show to defend his this

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Speaker 3: was the best Biden and f you if you don't

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Speaker 3: believe me, and I haven't heard that defense yet.

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Speaker 4: Another guy saying, can I have a credibility back?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: No, No, that's not how it works. More in the way,

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Speaker 2: stay hear.

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Speaker 12: This is the Emperor's new clothes playing itself out in

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Speaker 12: real time. There are people who knew and said nothing,

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Speaker 12: and that is a crime against this republic. And I

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Speaker 12: think the Democrats's going to pay for a long time

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Speaker 12: for being a part of what is now being revealed

588
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Speaker 12: to be a massive cover up.

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Speaker 2: Van Jones and CNN yesterday.

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Speaker 3: I hope there's a price to pay, and not just

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Speaker 3: because it hurts Democrats and helps Republicans. There should be

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Speaker 3: a price to pay for this sort of thing. And

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Speaker 3: He's right, is a crime against the republic, and it's

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Speaker 3: not being treated like that.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 3: It's not just an interesting anecdote that the Secretary of

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Speaker 3: State was okay being regularly called the wrong name and

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Speaker 3: never went to the press.

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Speaker 4: With it, or that it's a partisan question one that

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Speaker 4: Republicans pounce as da dada. Yeah, that's terrible speaking of that.

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Speaker 2: Sort of thing.

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Speaker 4: Amy Bublack is a hero and she may well bring

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Speaker 4: down Gavin Newsom. We will tell you about Amy and

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Speaker 4: her efforts in the scandal. That's the opposite scandal that

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Speaker 4: a lot of the media is reporting. Next Hour. If

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Speaker 4: you don't get Next Hour, Hour four, Gravit Later, Vibe podcast,

607
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Speaker 4: follow Us, Armstrong, you Getty on demand wherever you like

608
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Speaker 4: to get podcasts.

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Speaker 2: The other day, Mark ca Alprin said, this is making

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Speaker 2: me mental.

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Speaker 3: I feel that way too. I feel like, okay, this

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Speaker 3: is like if the Emperor's new clothes. That old story.

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Speaker 3: You get to the park where the little kid says

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Speaker 3: he's naked, yeah, and like half of the people in

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Speaker 3: the crowd say, no, he's not. What well, yeah, So

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Speaker 3: you're still hanging on to the fact that he's not naked.

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Speaker 4: If we had time, we'd play this montage for you,

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Speaker 4: and if a year later several of the most powerful

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Speaker 4: people in the kingdom were continuing to say, oh, no,

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Speaker 4: he had beautiful clothes on, or look, we shouldn't look

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Speaker 4: back till last year.

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Speaker 2: We need to look.

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Speaker 3: Forward, okay to that, And I just I want to

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Speaker 3: hear this because I haven't heard it yet. So Joe

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Speaker 3: Scarborough pretty famously this was after The Wall Street Journal

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Speaker 3: put out their piece about Biden's mental decline. Joe Scarborough

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Speaker 3: wanted to push back against it hard and said in

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Speaker 3: his screen this start.

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Speaker 8: Your tape right now, because I'm about to tell you

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Speaker 8: the truth and f you if.

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Speaker 2: You can't handle the truth.

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Speaker 8: This version of Biden intellectually, analytically is the best Biden ever.

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Speaker 3: So Joe Joe Scarborough saying, fu if you think Joe

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Speaker 3: Biden's slipping mentally, this is late in the game. I mean,

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Speaker 3: this is what everybody knew. Crazy anyway, So he was

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Speaker 3: on with Mark Alperton. They're actually friends on Mark Alperton's

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Speaker 3: very got like nine different TV shows right now.

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Speaker 2: He was on one of them and helper and ask

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Speaker 2: him about it.

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Speaker 3: But looking back at that, do you say, well, it

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Speaker 3: was misleading to say best Biden never without a caveating

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Speaker 3: it and say except on the days when he's not

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Speaker 3: the best Biden.

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Speaker 2: I mean, put in the proper context.

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Speaker 11: I'm just not going to freak out and meltdown on

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Speaker 11: one or two clips here or there. And again he

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Speaker 11: bumbled around, and he stumbled around, but he has for

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Speaker 11: quite some time. That didn't seem to me to get

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Speaker 11: in the way of Joe Bining being able to analyze

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Speaker 11: the most important issues. And I certainly think he has

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Speaker 11: a better grasp on it than probably the overwhelming majority

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Speaker 11: of his critics there certainly did.

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Speaker 2: When I spoke with him and Scarborough, we cut that down.

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Speaker 3: But Scarborough says he spent three hours with him and

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Speaker 3: a dinner or something like that, and Biden was sharp

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Speaker 3: that day, and so he was going off of that. Okay,

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Speaker 3: So I guess that's another the ability to I mean,

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Speaker 3: because the hatred Scarborough and his wife have for Trump,

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's beyond Trump derangement syndrome. They deeply hate

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Speaker 3: him and have pretty good reason for it. But he's

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Speaker 3: got all kinds of reasons to turn his mind into.

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Speaker 3: Not that doesn't say anything that could possibly help Trump

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Speaker 3: get elected, right emotion, But that's just this crazy say

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Speaker 3: sad series irrationals. Everybody would say he always had gaffs. No, no, no,

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Speaker 3: not like this. What are you talking about. Let's all

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Speaker 3: just take the lesson that apparently we can delude ourselves

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Speaker 3: and be afraid, be very afraid.

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Speaker 2: Well, they can delude themselves.

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Speaker 4: I think everybody has that capacity in different levels, and

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Speaker 4: apparently it runs high among journalists.

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Speaker 3: If you miss a segment of the show. Ever, you

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Speaker 3: can get the podcast Armstrong and Getty on demand.

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Speaker 2: Armstrong and Getty