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Speaker 1: Welcome to the drive. I'm Dale Lali here with Matt Williamson.

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Speaker 1: It's a lovely Tuesday, Tuesday, lovely because the Steelers are

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Speaker 1: gonna be back on the practice field. Yeah. We've got

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Speaker 1: three days in a row of practice, three days in

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Speaker 1: a row of you and I and then uh back

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Speaker 1: the regular season mode and Lions and all that good

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Speaker 1: stuff coming up after that stuff, Lions and Tigers and Bears. Uh. So,

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Speaker 1: Matt a lot of the of the focus, and rightfully so.

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Speaker 1: Uh And if you look at the importance it is

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Speaker 1: to the team, is his quarterbacks? Of course? Of course,

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Speaker 1: So I had just thought the other day as I

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Speaker 1: was listening listening to a fantasy football radio show, as

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Speaker 1: I like, hopton do, I'm gonna give you two quarterback

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Speaker 1: stat lines. You tell me who's who here. Quarterback one

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Speaker 1: completed sixty five point six percent of his passes for

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Speaker 1: touchdown passes and ten interceptions. Quarterback too completed sixty five

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Speaker 1: of his passes for three thousand, eight nineteen yards, with

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Speaker 1: thirty three touchdown passes and seven interceptions. Sounds pretty similar.

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Speaker 1: Sounds pretty similar. Both these guys were starters last year.

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Speaker 1: Both these guys were starters last year. I'm not good

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Speaker 1: at this game. Multiple choice would be much better than

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Speaker 1: filling the blanket at eight am. Quarterback Quarterback one is

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Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberger. Quarterbacks is Ryan Tannehill. That's actually one of

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Speaker 1: the cross my noodle too, because he's hyper efficient, doesn't

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Speaker 1: throw a lot of picks. Um really unbelievable numbers in

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Speaker 1: the Mahomes stratusphere since he took over starter. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: give you a third quarterback three through for four thousand,

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Speaker 1: three hundred thirty six yards a little bit more. Thirty

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Speaker 1: one touchdown passes, ten interceptions. Okay, that's justin Herbert. That

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Speaker 1: doesn't surprise me either. Yet. One of these guys is

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Speaker 1: considered to be done by many of the national funds.

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Speaker 1: The other two guys, oh, they're you know, they're they're fantastic.

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Speaker 1: Herbert's maybe the best rookie season in NFL history, right, well,

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Speaker 1: stat wise, right, right right? I mean Baker's was in

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Speaker 1: that conversation a couple of years ago. Roethersburger only went

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Speaker 1: and people put up more numbers now than they did

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Speaker 1: then of course. Um, but Herbert is considered the budding superstar,

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Speaker 1: and I'm not disputing that one bit. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: I thought he'd be. Um. I'm a Tannehill fan without question.

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Speaker 1: I think that it's a crossroads of his career a

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Speaker 1: little bit. And there also was that getting away from

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Speaker 1: Adam Gaze factor that I think factored into him. And

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Speaker 1: maybe we can look at Donald the same way one

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Speaker 1: day to him getting into a really strong coaching staff.

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Speaker 1: But his offensive coordinator has went for doing Atlanta and

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Speaker 1: we know Julio is there, and you know they're very

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Speaker 1: dependent on a couple of guys in that offense. But

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Speaker 1: it's a great scheme. Um, but Ben should probably in

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Speaker 1: the same tier as those guys, you know, and perception

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Speaker 1: is not true to that. I I think what's happening

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Speaker 1: of course of last season and just complete Well, that

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Speaker 1: was his entire season and it wasn't you missed a

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Speaker 1: lot of action. You've you've missed a lot of what

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Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberger did last year. And it's always right and

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Speaker 1: it's always the case the quarterback. I mean he had

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Speaker 1: he had some very good moments. It's not like, oh,

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Speaker 1: the last season when he was getting yanked for you know,

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Speaker 1: I just don't get where people are looking at at

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Speaker 1: Roethlisberger's season last year as a whole. As a whole, yeah,

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Speaker 1: not much to ask the course of the game, right,

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Speaker 1: like that, And obviously that affected how they played. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Roethlisberger's died. If you keep saying it long enough, you're

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Speaker 1: gonna be right. Yeah, every year doesn't make your right

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Speaker 1: what I'm looking for is and we don't know this,

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Speaker 1: but teams do tell us what they think about their quarterback.

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Speaker 1: But there also was a scheme change and a coordinator change.

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Speaker 1: Will Ben hold the ball longer in the pocket throughout

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Speaker 1: It needs to come out because I still think he

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Speaker 1: that as I as I I you know, I played

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Speaker 1: it as fantastic. Of course Roethlisberger does it, and he's

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Speaker 1: just throwing all these short passage. Brady's done there for

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Speaker 1: years exactly. That's how he's made his living and the

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Speaker 1: quick passes. The flip side of that coin is did

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Speaker 1: it happen because they didn't think they could protect? Or

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Speaker 1: did it happen because Ben wanted the ball out of

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Speaker 1: They were eleven and oh right, and it was working

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Speaker 1: you didn't make any halftime adjustments. Why we shut him

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Speaker 1: Certainly some Brown's moments, right, there were plays that he

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Speaker 1: thirteen interceptions. That's Kirk Cousins interesting with a with a

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Speaker 1: easy to say Jared Goff stinks. He held back the Rams,

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Speaker 1: McCaffrey being I don't know if Sam Donald's be good,

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Speaker 1: back the first and twenty completion cuts it the second

425
00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:06,000
Speaker 1: and fifteen another completion gets it the second or third

426
00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:11,480
Speaker 1: and tennis and they run Deonte Johnson on across. Everybody

427
00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:14,960
Speaker 1: else is down down the field, and Johnson's kind of

428
00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:18,200
Speaker 1: the they clear things out for him. He makes the

429
00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:23,040
Speaker 1: catches like short catch, he gets tackled. Everybody goes us,

430
00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:25,960
Speaker 1: why are they throwing short of the chains there? Second half,

431
00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:28,840
Speaker 1: Haskins is in there. They do the same thing, except

432
00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:31,400
Speaker 1: they have Jalen Samuel's on the cross, are coming across.

433
00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:33,880
Speaker 1: He catches the ball, steps out of a tackle, gets

434
00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:38,400
Speaker 1: the first down. That's a great play because he's playing

435
00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:43,120
Speaker 1: against bumps, right, and defense made a play against Deonte.

436
00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:47,720
Speaker 1: I mean, he's happened. Um if it was Ben, would

437
00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:50,159
Speaker 1: they have thrown a twenty yard passed downfield? I don't know.

438
00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:54,399
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean it's the thing that people need

439
00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:56,960
Speaker 1: to understand on play on things with that nature and

440
00:23:57,040 --> 00:24:02,720
Speaker 1: plays like that. They're running patterns pasted the sticks, because

441
00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:04,640
Speaker 1: the first thing I get is why are they running that? Why?

442
00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:06,919
Speaker 1: You know, why are they running short of the sticks there? Well,

443
00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:09,600
Speaker 1: there's only one guy running short of the sticks. That's

444
00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:12,480
Speaker 1: the whole route combination, not a one man route combination.

445
00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:15,240
Speaker 1: That's that's the outlet, that's the that's the easy throw

446
00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:17,480
Speaker 1: that if everything else is covered, you make that throw

447
00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:19,960
Speaker 1: and you give the guy a chance to make a

448
00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:22,720
Speaker 1: play and get the first down, and defenses have something

449
00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:25,560
Speaker 1: to do with this. They're going to play the sticks first.

450
00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:27,520
Speaker 1: They're gonna give you. They give you that one as

451
00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:30,440
Speaker 1: a you know, a counterpoint if if the play lasts

452
00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:32,360
Speaker 1: that long and he doesn't get sacked, dump it off

453
00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:33,719
Speaker 1: and we're going to come up and tackle. I mean,

454
00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:36,639
Speaker 1: that's good defense. Why you stay out of third downs? Right?

455
00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:42,320
Speaker 1: It's third down. Third downs aren't winning downs for the offense.

456
00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:44,320
Speaker 1: You gotta stay out of those situations. And that's why

457
00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:47,639
Speaker 1: the holding penalties are are massive. To blame Rudolph for that,

458
00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:50,080
Speaker 1: it's a little short sight, in my opinion, I would

459
00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:53,000
Speaker 1: say so. Yeah. I mean, I think Rudolph would have

460
00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:56,200
Speaker 1: played as well as Haskins, and I think Haskins would

461
00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:58,200
Speaker 1: have played as well as Rudolph if they flipped their

462
00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:01,199
Speaker 1: responsibilities in that he game. I agree, because I think

463
00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:06,040
Speaker 1: Rudolph had it harder. Yeah. Yet, I do believe to me,

464
00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:09,440
Speaker 1: the two best throws that I've seen a Steelers quarterback

465
00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:13,680
Speaker 1: making this preseason have both been by Rudolph. Yeah. The

466
00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:16,480
Speaker 1: long pass down the sideline to Claypool in the in

467
00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:19,360
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame game and then the past down

468
00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:23,160
Speaker 1: the field down the right sideline to Deonte Johnson last

469
00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:27,800
Speaker 1: week against the Eagles, they're they're both thirty yard throws.

470
00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:31,640
Speaker 1: You know, we're more that were completions that were put

471
00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:35,320
Speaker 1: on where they needed to be put um, and I

472
00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:38,000
Speaker 1: think Haskins has has been you know, we talked about

473
00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:44,119
Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin talked about Joe Flacco picking apart cover two defense. Okay,

474
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:48,240
Speaker 1: I think Haskins and it did that as well against

475
00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:52,360
Speaker 1: bad guys. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know they could run

476
00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:56,119
Speaker 1: the ball will Um. He had time to throw the

477
00:25:56,200 --> 00:26:00,080
Speaker 1: Eagles safeties. I made a note at one point it

478
00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:02,879
Speaker 1: was third and Eagles are not a deep team, No,

479
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:06,480
Speaker 1: but it was like third and four in the third quarter,

480
00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:11,440
Speaker 1: and the Eagles safeties were in a too too deep look.

481
00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:13,920
Speaker 1: They were both twenty yards down the field on third

482
00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:18,400
Speaker 1: and four. I mean, that's just taking candy from baby. Yeah.

483
00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:23,640
Speaker 1: Gregg Costel always says you can isolate the quarterback position.

484
00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:27,280
Speaker 1: You know, is he making the right reads, doesn't matter

485
00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:29,480
Speaker 1: as much of who you're playing against, who's blocking, is

486
00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:32,200
Speaker 1: he's still doing the right things. Just focus on him

487
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:34,720
Speaker 1: and his job. And I think if you do that

488
00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:37,960
Speaker 1: you'd probably give an equal grade to Haskins and Rudolph,

489
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:44,760
Speaker 1: which are both perfectly that's perfectly I think that Again

490
00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:47,680
Speaker 1: I've said just before, I think if you came into

491
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:52,400
Speaker 1: this preseason hating Mason Rudolph, you still hate Mason Rudolph.

492
00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:55,840
Speaker 1: Likewise with Dwayne Haskins. But here's what I think is

493
00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:59,280
Speaker 1: happening with Haskins. I think there are so many people

494
00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:03,040
Speaker 1: out there who want him to be a hit, which

495
00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:09,280
Speaker 1: is great. That's it. They're projecting more before the horse.

496
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:12,040
Speaker 1: They're putting the car before the horse. They want him

497
00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:14,920
Speaker 1: to be the boy than if if he hits, the

498
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:17,560
Speaker 1: Steelers don't need to do anything at quarterback next year.

499
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:21,160
Speaker 1: That would be amazing. But I think that's what they're

500
00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:26,040
Speaker 1: trying to project here before it's happened. Like he he

501
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:31,199
Speaker 1: the Steelers on on the Sunday gave him an opportunity

502
00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:34,320
Speaker 1: to run with the first unit in a two minutes,

503
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:38,240
Speaker 1: first time that they've done it. His first pass in

504
00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:44,200
Speaker 1: that two minutes row goes through Cam Sutton's hands. I

505
00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:45,679
Speaker 1: mean it was an easy it should have been an

506
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:48,720
Speaker 1: easy pick through Cam Sutton's hands off of Arthur Millette

507
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:52,520
Speaker 1: bounced off of him in the pat Friarmouth for a

508
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:58,040
Speaker 1: ten yard game. They they then go down the field

509
00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:01,360
Speaker 1: and score, and everybody, well, Dwayne Haskins led the first

510
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 1: team unit to a score. It should have been it

511
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:07,480
Speaker 1: should have been an interception that ended the possession on

512
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:09,520
Speaker 1: the first play of the of the possession, and the

513
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:12,159
Speaker 1: coaches realized, and the coaches because I asked Mike Tomlin

514
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:14,560
Speaker 1: about it after the practice, I said, you gave the

515
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:17,960
Speaker 1: Haskins a chance to to to run with the ones.

516
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:20,440
Speaker 1: Did you like what you see? The first thing he

517
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:25,000
Speaker 1: brought up was the pick. It was not the touchdown pass,

518
00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:29,000
Speaker 1: which was a nice, nice touchdown past the Chase Claypool, fantastic,

519
00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:31,440
Speaker 1: But the drive should have been over. When the ball

520
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:33,879
Speaker 1: comes out of haskins hands, he does the magic powers

521
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:35,879
Speaker 1: to make sure that doesn't get picked. That's not the

522
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 1: way it was drawn up. He got, yeah, it didn't

523
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:41,960
Speaker 1: get picked. And there is interception lock around the league.

524
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:44,080
Speaker 1: And I believe in those stats a fair amount as well,

525
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:47,960
Speaker 1: depending if you know who's charting them. Um to me,

526
00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 1: the success of that conversation is if you told me

527
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:58,760
Speaker 1: four months ago that on August Haskins has taken first

528
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:01,400
Speaker 1: team reps in the two minutes. That's all I need

529
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:06,200
Speaker 1: to end that. Folks, don't put the cart before the horse.

530
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,360
Speaker 1: Let the guy make the roster, which I believe he

531
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:14,960
Speaker 1: has done. Worry about who's number two and who's number

532
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 1: three next year, or who's number one and who's number

533
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 1: two next year? Right? I mean you hope hopefully it

534
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:23,360
Speaker 1: doesn't matter at all this year? Right? I mean with

535
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:26,480
Speaker 1: that question, that means Roethlisberger has made all seventeen starts.

536
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 1: Maybe you know, if it gets down to a situation

537
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:33,240
Speaker 1: where they've got a playoff spot wrapped up in Week seventeen,

538
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 1: last game of the year, I might play Haskins, I

539
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:38,800
Speaker 1: might play I might play Haskins a half. I might

540
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:44,080
Speaker 1: play Rudolph a half something something along those lines. He

541
00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 1: put his name in that conversation, which again I have

542
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 1: to I can't state this enough. He was guaranteed nothing

543
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:56,680
Speaker 1: when this camp started, right, not a thing, not a thing. No,

544
00:29:56,880 --> 00:30:00,360
Speaker 1: it's it's been a home run, absolutely, But just to

545
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:02,960
Speaker 1: to sit why there there's a quarterback concert. There's no

546
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:05,520
Speaker 1: quarterback controversy, and I don't like there's, right, I mean,

547
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:07,960
Speaker 1: I hope people aren't saying thinking boy, Matt and Dale

548
00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:10,200
Speaker 1: or throwing cold water on the notion that Haskins can

549
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 1: be the next Bend, Like that's that's ambitious and that's massive.

550
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 1: I mean to think that they could go into this

551
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:20,720
Speaker 1: off season without a quarterback need would be they would

552
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:24,040
Speaker 1: be very much in the same situation that the Saints

553
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:28,360
Speaker 1: are in right now, where you've got you know, you've

554
00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:31,040
Speaker 1: got two guys. One of them is Jamison again, a

555
00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:34,239
Speaker 1: first round draft pick, the first pick in Taysom Hill,

556
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:37,200
Speaker 1: and and you're going, okay, which one of you know?

557
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:40,720
Speaker 1: So in you're in, you're starting one and one preseason game,

558
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:42,600
Speaker 1: you're gonna start the other one in the next preseason game.

559
00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:46,320
Speaker 1: Could be like or and it turns into a quarterback battle,

560
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:48,680
Speaker 1: And that's not the worst thing in the world, but

561
00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:51,480
Speaker 1: I don't know that it's ideal. Like it's certainly not

562
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:55,960
Speaker 1: neither neither Mason Rudolph nor Dwayne Haskins would would preclude

563
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:58,600
Speaker 1: me if I'm Kevin Colbert from drafting if a quarterback

564
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:02,720
Speaker 1: falls into my lap, or if I find the opportunity

565
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 1: to trade up for somebody that I like next year's draft,

566
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 1: or trade for a veteran. Neither one of these guys

567
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:10,240
Speaker 1: is going to stop me from doing it. I like

568
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 1: what I've seen. I like what I've seen, but I'm

569
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:17,000
Speaker 1: still if they were a left guard. Okay, you know,

570
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 1: but it's your quarterback, starting quarterback. If there's an opportunity

571
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:22,320
Speaker 1: to upgrade, you definitely take it. And that's true for

572
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:26,720
Speaker 1: fifteen teams. But the fact that we're even considering Rudolph,

573
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 1: let alone Haskins in that conversation is a win. Um.

574
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:34,960
Speaker 1: I think the biggest key to me isn't that Rudolph

575
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 1: I'll played Haskins. It's the staff has to trust Rudolph

576
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:44,240
Speaker 1: so much more. They've been around them longer. Therefore, he's

577
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:46,640
Speaker 1: the two. He's the one that gets the hat on

578
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:50,320
Speaker 1: game day. If Ben gets hurt mid game, I would

579
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 1: they would go to Rudolf. That doesn't mean that if

580
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 1: if Roethlisberger is going to be out for five weeks,

581
00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 1: different story. That's a different story. And maybe they do

582
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:02,880
Speaker 1: go today, then I think you would get Haskins ready

583
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 1: to see where you're at, you know, And I brought

584
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 1: us up a few times too. I don't know if

585
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:09,520
Speaker 1: they have any plans of doing it, but I would

586
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:11,920
Speaker 1: love to see Haskins almost start to finish or start

587
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,520
Speaker 1: to finish in the final preseason game. You know, just

588
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 1: let him go with it and say, sorry, you're not

589
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:19,960
Speaker 1: gonna be active next week. But we were giving you

590
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 1: a great opportunity here to every situation, at every down distance,

591
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:28,960
Speaker 1: every goal line, every you know, two minute drills. You

592
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:30,480
Speaker 1: can get to do the whole thing. It's your show

593
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:32,800
Speaker 1: from start to finish. I can get decent cast I

594
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:36,640
Speaker 1: think as well. You know, Rudolph has a rapport with

595
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:40,280
Speaker 1: the receivers that are on this you know, the two

596
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 1: over his time being here, not just camp yeah, not,

597
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:46,480
Speaker 1: it's not just camping. And I know there's some there's

598
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 1: some sites out there that have been charting every throw

599
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:53,120
Speaker 1: made from these guys at the practices that they have seen.

600
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:56,320
Speaker 1: That's always the best, which have only been the open practices,

601
00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 1: which has only been the open practices. I've seen them all. Yeah,

602
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:03,320
Speaker 1: from start to finish here throughout this offseason. Do you

603
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 1: think one is having a better camp than the other.

604
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:08,920
Speaker 1: It's been close. And you know, to me, you know,

605
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 1: if the Steelers, if Mike Tomlin were to come in

606
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 1: and say, Dwayne Haskins is the number two of Mason

607
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 1: Rudolph's the three. Okay, I get it. That's fine. I

608
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, we're wrong. It's just I think,

609
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:22,000
Speaker 1: first of all, I don't know that he's going to

610
00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 1: I don't know that he does that in this situation.

611
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:29,120
Speaker 1: This is not Landry Jones versus Mason Rudolph. No, right, right, right,

612
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:32,120
Speaker 1: three years ago, two years ago. I'm not sure if

613
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:33,720
Speaker 1: it was you that said this or baby. It's just

614
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 1: one of my buddies. I was having the conversation that

615
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 1: maybe if Haskins would have been the starter for week two,

616
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:45,720
Speaker 1: but now with Ben coming back and three, you're kind

617
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:50,920
Speaker 1: of odd of opportunities for him to even win the job. Honestly, Yeah,

618
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:53,000
Speaker 1: And in the grand scheme of things, it doesn't matter.

619
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter, it doesn't matter. It just means that

620
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 1: Mason Rudolph can be here next year. They're both right,

621
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 1: They're both going to be Pittsburgh Steelers next year. That's

622
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 1: what Dwayne Haskins has has assured himself, which again I

623
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 1: can't state this enough, was not guaranteed at the start

624
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:13,480
Speaker 1: of this camp. I know when people when they signed him,

625
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 1: there were people out there who automatically, well, he's going

626
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:19,200
Speaker 1: to be the number two. No, he was the good

627
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:21,920
Speaker 1: football they signed him as a successor to Ben. No,

628
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:27,319
Speaker 1: they signed him as if as is free dart throws.

629
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:30,240
Speaker 1: It was found money. They were Kevin Colbert was walking

630
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:32,839
Speaker 1: down the street and found a twenty dollar bill laying

631
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 1: on the side of the recap it or not sure,

632
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:38,319
Speaker 1: let's do it. You mentioned the Saints. I mean it's

633
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:40,520
Speaker 1: almost like a year ago Saints where you knew Ben

634
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Speaker 1: or Breeze was probably one, one, one and done. You

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Speaker 1: had Hill, you had Winston. They invested a little more

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Speaker 1: in Winston than the Steelers. They in Haskins, they invested

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00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 1: Morton Hill. But did it really matter who was Breeze

638
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 1: is too in August? Not really, you know. And again

639
00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:01,799
Speaker 1: when Breeze did get hurt, who they go to Hill? Yeah,

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00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:07,319
Speaker 1: Which I have a different conversation to me, a much

641
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:11,759
Speaker 1: different conversation is if Ben's gonna miss a month, who

642
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 1: are we going with? Who do you think gives you

643
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 1: the backup on game day? As the backup holding the clipboards?

644
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:18,759
Speaker 1: Which one of them is gonna get you out of

645
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:21,239
Speaker 1: the game? Which one does a coaching staff? Trust more,

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00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 1: That's not even a conversation. Yeah, the month one is

647
00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:28,319
Speaker 1: a conversation. He's got a you know, Matt Cannad has

648
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:31,399
Speaker 1: now been with him. This is going on year two. Um,

649
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:34,239
Speaker 1: the coaching staff has been with him as a whole.

650
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:37,759
Speaker 1: This is year four they drafted him. He's been He's

651
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 1: played with Juju, he's played you know, he's played with

652
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:41,480
Speaker 1: He's been with all these guys for a while now.

653
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 1: You saw the videos of him in the off season.

654
00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:46,240
Speaker 1: He's out there working with Claypool, working out with Claypool.

655
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:49,480
Speaker 1: They have a report and he's got nothing to hurt himself.

656
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 1: Know the people who think that, Okay, we'll look at

657
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 1: Haskin's numbers and he's Yeah, he's been fine. He's been

658
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:57,719
Speaker 1: he's been very good. But Rudolf's fourteen of eighteen, four

659
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Speaker 1: hundred sixty one yards without one of the the one

660
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 1: or three point nine pass rating. It's not like he's

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00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:05,960
Speaker 1: been awful. Yeah, that's the thing that bothers me the

662
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 1: most about this conversations. You hear some people like somebody

663
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 1: lost or you know, if someone's good that means someone's bad.

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Speaker 1: That's not really the case. I mean, I think they've

665
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 1: been pretty equal and the only person here who's lost

666
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:22,480
Speaker 1: has been Josh Dobbs. Yeah, he's lost. He has him

667
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 1: to implode. Yeah, and that didn't happen, you know. And

668
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:28,360
Speaker 1: for overall, the Steelers are the biggest winners in this

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00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 1: whole thing. And Dwayne Haskins, he saw, has a career, yeah,

670
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, he's going to get to make money

671
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:36,960
Speaker 1: again this year. You know. That's that's what this turns out.

672
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 1: I mean as it stands right now, and my my

673
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:41,879
Speaker 1: opinion could very much change within the next calendar year.

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00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be comfortable with Rudolph or Haskins as the

675
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:49,440
Speaker 1: opening day starter a year from now. But I'm a

676
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:51,359
Speaker 1: lot more comfortable than I was, you know. I mean,

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Speaker 1: if I could paint a picture where you bring back

678
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:58,920
Speaker 1: the defense, you sign a stud left tackle, you draft

679
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:02,279
Speaker 1: a corner in the fus around, and you spend money

680
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:05,400
Speaker 1: on some other nice piece, and you say, Mason or Dwayne,

681
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:08,880
Speaker 1: don't kill us. But we got a heck of a

682
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:11,879
Speaker 1: supporting cast around a really good defense as you learn,

683
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:14,840
Speaker 1: you know, and maybe there's a third round quarterback with

684
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 1: all kinds of upside on the roster too, that's on

685
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 1: the way I'm drawing it up. But that would not

686
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 1: be a four and thirteen team, No, you know what

687
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 1: I'm talking about yeah, so interesting. Um, you know, I

688
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:31,759
Speaker 1: just think the whole thing is is uh, I don't

689
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 1: know it. Of course, people need stuff to talk about,

690
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 1: and it all roots from fans being excited about this sport,

691
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:43,239
Speaker 1: and the honest opinion of it is not a lot

692
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:45,480
Speaker 1: happens day to day in this sport this time of year,

693
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:47,840
Speaker 1: and everybody wants it to so we all have to

694
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:49,600
Speaker 1: talk about stuff. And that's why you and I are

695
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:51,719
Speaker 1: employed doing this at the moment, I guess as part

696
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 1: of the reason. But don't make something o nothing, you know.

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00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:57,479
Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's pretty clear what the packing

698
00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:00,400
Speaker 1: order is in the in the big picture, it's been

699
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 1: a success. It's not like these to think and they

700
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:06,560
Speaker 1: gonna go find Marioda or you know, all the people

701
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:08,880
Speaker 1: remember last year they should have signed case Keenum or

702
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:12,120
Speaker 1: Marioda or some eight or nine million dollar backup. Would

703
00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 1: they be any better that? Nobody's gonna be talking about

704
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 1: that now. Steelers need a better back up. Now they

705
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 1: got two good ones. Now they have two good ones. Right,

706
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:22,840
Speaker 1: So he is Matt Williamson. I'm Dale, Lolly. You're listening

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Speaker 1: to the drive here on Steelers Nation Radio. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: take another break. We'll be back with more right after

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Speaker 1: the Welcome back on Dale Lolly here with Matt Williamson. Matt,

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Speaker 1: the Steelers of course, that played on Saturday Saturday against

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Speaker 1: the Lions. Lions, and I just wanted to uh update

712
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Speaker 1: everybody on this um. This is from Steelers spokesman Burnt Lowton. Uh.

713
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:01,719
Speaker 1: He put out a tweet today and the Steelers put

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Speaker 1: this out. Pittsburgh Steelers in hines Field management or requiring

715
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:07,879
Speaker 1: fans to bring their masks for the upcoming preseason game

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Speaker 1: against the Lions on Saturday August That's a seven thirty

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Speaker 1: pm game. That's regardless of vaccination status. All guest staff

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Speaker 1: and vendors at hines Field will be required to wear

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Speaker 1: a mask while visiting any of the indoor areas in

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Speaker 1: the stadium. So do you think that's like wait in

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Speaker 1: line for a beer if you if it's considered indoors,

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00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 1: I'm sure in the team shop and things like that, Yeah, right, Okay.

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Speaker 1: This includes indoor club level Steeler pro shops, restrooms, elevators,

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Speaker 1: and other enclosed spaces. Fans are to bring their own

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00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:43,799
Speaker 1: mass with them prior to entering the stadium. So if

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Speaker 1: you're going to go to the game on Saturday, have

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Speaker 1: a mask with you. MASS will not be required in

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Speaker 1: the concourse area, which includes the FedEx Grade Hall or

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00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:55,720
Speaker 1: in the upper and lower seating bowls of the stadium,

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00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:58,239
Speaker 1: as well as outside club seating and suites with the

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Speaker 1: windows open. All are strongly encouraged to wear MASS regardless

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Speaker 1: of vaccination status while not actively eating or drinking. Fans

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Speaker 1: will not be required to show proof of vaccination to

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Speaker 1: enter hines Field over in accordance to CDC guidelines, unvaccinated

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00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:16,440
Speaker 1: fans should wear masks at all times. Hines Field Management

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Speaker 1: will continue to monitor CDC and Public Health officials guidelines

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00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:24,400
Speaker 1: and adjust our policies accordingly based on any changes to

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Speaker 1: the policies and recommendations. Okay, I mean it's kind of

739
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:30,360
Speaker 1: back where the world's going, and we got all the

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Speaker 1: kids going back to school, and you know, this is

741
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:36,880
Speaker 1: like I've seen a couple of teams already have I

742
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:40,440
Speaker 1: think it's the Saints and the Raiders are going to

743
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Speaker 1: require fans to go into the stadium show their vaccination status.

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00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 1: So this is this is well, the Steelers are not

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00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:54,359
Speaker 1: doing that. Here. They're they're saying, okay, you if you're unvaccinated,

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00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:55,920
Speaker 1: you can still come to the game. Because some people.

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00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:58,520
Speaker 1: This is a big thing with me. You know, there

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00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:01,399
Speaker 1: are people out there who can't vaccinated because of health

749
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 1: issues correct or okay, or if it's your religious beliefs

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00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:08,360
Speaker 1: or whatever whatever it may be. Those people shouldn't be

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Speaker 1: shamed and can't go anywhere. I just I don't agree

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00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:12,880
Speaker 1: with that at all, and I'm not I don't know

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00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:14,840
Speaker 1: that I want to live in a world where you

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00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 1: have to show your vaccination status to go to get

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00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:24,240
Speaker 1: into it or whatever to get into it, to go shopping.

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00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:27,920
Speaker 1: You know, I get this now. A Steeler game or

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00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 1: a concert, as you said, those are the events you

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00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:35,760
Speaker 1: don't know, you're not they don't have to do those things, right,

759
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 1: But if I'm going to the to the local shopping

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00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:41,720
Speaker 1: center to to do something that's necessary like grocery shopping,

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00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 1: I shouldn't have to show no to get in. No

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00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:47,439
Speaker 1: or sorry, you can't come in and get your milk

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00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:51,719
Speaker 1: and eggs. Um. So you know, in this situation, if

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00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:54,279
Speaker 1: you if you have to wear a mask indoors, I

765
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 1: get it. We had to do it last week in Philadelphia.

766
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 1: We had to again. It's the same thing, had to

767
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 1: wear a mask and this is this is a state

768
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:07,720
Speaker 1: of Pennsylvania. Yeah, I think it's so. In the press

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00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:09,800
Speaker 1: box again, in the press box, we're indoors, were inside

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00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 1: inside of an NFL venue, uh, and your indoors you

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00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:16,880
Speaker 1: had to wear a mask when you were up walking around.

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00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 1: When we sat at our seats in the press box

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00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 1: that everybody was spaced out, there was a seat in

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00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:25,279
Speaker 1: between everybody. You could take your mask off while you're

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00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:26,839
Speaker 1: sitting at your seat. You could take your mask off

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00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:30,319
Speaker 1: when your back having lunch in there on the table,

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00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 1: you're sitting at one of the tables eating um. But

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00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 1: if you got up to walk around, you had to

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00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:37,279
Speaker 1: put the mask on. Not that big of a deal,

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00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 1: not that big a deal in the scheme of things.

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00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:41,319
Speaker 1: And it sounds like this is what's going to happen

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00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 1: at Hinesfield, at least for this game, um, first game

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00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 1: at Hinesfield of the year. Obviously, p A is a

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00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:50,200
Speaker 1: little stricter than other states. It's out of the Steeler's

785
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 1: hands a lot of it. But not that big a deal.

786
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:56,919
Speaker 1: I frankly hope it doesn't progress to make it worse.

787
00:42:57,080 --> 00:42:59,040
Speaker 1: You know that we have to take it a step

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00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:02,279
Speaker 1: further and this. You know, it keeps things down in

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00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 1: the meantime, but I don't love it. I kind of

790
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 1: thought we'd done all this by now. I mean, I'll

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00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:09,160
Speaker 1: be very honest, but you know, it doesn't happen overnight, right,

792
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:12,040
Speaker 1: it doesn't happen overnight. And you know, I'm not blaming

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00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 1: anybody for not getting the vaccine vaccinated. There are people

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00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:17,120
Speaker 1: out there, well, these people just need to go get vaccinated.

795
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:21,239
Speaker 1: Well again, if you have a medical reason not to

796
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:24,840
Speaker 1: do it, I'm not going to shame you into getting vaccinated.

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00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:28,960
Speaker 1: It's it's ridiculous. No. I believe that as well. But

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00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:32,400
Speaker 1: you know, like when you look at NFL players, you

799
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:34,400
Speaker 1: better have a pretty darn good reason not to in

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00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 1: my opinion. I mean there's some high profile players, including

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00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:39,439
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson, Jaccon and right. You know, I was reading

802
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:44,799
Speaker 1: Peter King's Monday Morning Quarterback yesterday and because you're part

803
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:47,480
Speaker 1: of a team, somebody took him to task because he

804
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:51,719
Speaker 1: ripped Cole Beasley a little bit for his anti vaccination

805
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:55,800
Speaker 1: stand stands, but has said nothing about Lamar Jackson not

806
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:59,440
Speaker 1: being vaccinated. Which one is more important to their team? Right? Right?

807
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:02,279
Speaker 1: Of course, if Cole Beasley misses a game, do the

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00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:06,560
Speaker 1: Bills cold be the player? But so what if Lamar

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00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 1: Jackson misses a game. It's a big deal for the

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00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:10,880
Speaker 1: for the Ravens, and without question, as bigger deal as

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Speaker 1: anyone missing in the league. Yeah, but so to me,

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00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:18,200
Speaker 1: that's different, not because not only is there a lot

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Speaker 1: more at a job. I mean I went and got

814
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:23,160
Speaker 1: to be a player, but you're part of a team.

815
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Speaker 1: And if you and I were both offensive linemen together

816
00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:28,840
Speaker 1: and you didn't want to do it, and you have

817
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 1: a good reason and convince me cool, But if you're

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00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:33,719
Speaker 1: just kind of wish you washing, but you and you

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00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 1: affect me, I got a problem with it, you know,

820
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:38,959
Speaker 1: because I want to win games. You're affecting my well being,

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Speaker 1: you know. I mean, there's it's more than just you

822
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:43,759
Speaker 1: in this situation from players, you know. I mean early

823
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:46,920
Speaker 1: in the process, when the when the vaccinations became open

824
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:51,200
Speaker 1: for everybody, very very excessive. I had already had my

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00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:55,840
Speaker 1: UM but I told the staff d K Pittsburgh Sports,

826
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Speaker 1: I said, I would recommend that you all go get

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Speaker 1: vaccinated so we can do our job oops jobs right right?

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Speaker 1: You know, that's kind of the kind of the way

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Speaker 1: this is going, you know, gonna go here. You're not

830
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:08,719
Speaker 1: gonna be allowed to go into stadiums or have any

831
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:11,320
Speaker 1: you know, access to locker rooms or any of that stuff.

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Speaker 1: If people don't realize you you get tested just as

833
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:17,279
Speaker 1: you go to practice, tested yesterday to do your job. Right. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: In fact, one of the signs outside of the press

835
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Speaker 1: box in Philadelphia last week was there was a sign

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Speaker 1: there that said vaccine, you know, vaccinated area only. You

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00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:31,080
Speaker 1: couldn't go in the press You can't go in the

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00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:33,120
Speaker 1: press box in an NFL press box if you haven't

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00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:36,759
Speaker 1: been vaccinated. But they're not asking you guys for proof, right, No? No, wait,

840
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:44,360
Speaker 1: show card? Interesting? I mean I don't think that's unconstitutional. No,

841
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:47,520
Speaker 1: I don't. I mean, first of all, it's their property,

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00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:50,440
Speaker 1: their property. You know, they want to say that you

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00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 1: have to you have to be vaccinated to go into

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Speaker 1: this area. Okay, it's different tell you have to wear purple, right,

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00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:58,279
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, it's theirs. If you want to

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Speaker 1: go in there and do your do your job, you

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Speaker 1: gotta you know, that's what you gotta do. That's part

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Speaker 1: of the process. It's the same thing when you go

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Speaker 1: to school, they asked for your vaccinations. Okay, that's a

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00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:09,759
Speaker 1: little different because you have to go to school. Well,

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Speaker 1: you don't have to go to their before we do it.

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Speaker 1: COVID was like, yeah, you know, you had to have

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Speaker 1: your your polio shots and things of that nature. So

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Speaker 1: I don't know, it's harry and it's political when it's

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Speaker 1: not my bag. I think people are making this more

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Speaker 1: political than it has to be on both sides. Probably

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Speaker 1: on both sides, the vaccination shaming and then the people

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Speaker 1: on the other side saying I'll never get a vaccination.

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Speaker 1: You're both being kind of stupid here, both of you

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Speaker 1: being being a little bullheaded just to be bullheaded, and

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Speaker 1: in my opinion, blame because people who have been vaccinated

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Speaker 1: are getting this new variant. Jenna Harner, who works at WAGS,

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Speaker 1: I was vaccinated when we were in Canton. They didn't

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Speaker 1: require any mass up there for any of this stuff,

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Speaker 1: even in the press box. She comes back from there,

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Speaker 1: she she has COVID, the different strand, the different the

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Speaker 1: different STRAM. But she tested positive for COVID. She'd been vaccinated,

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Speaker 1: and that's happening around So I get it. You know,

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Speaker 1: we still have to be diligent about this. It's not

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Speaker 1: the end of the world. She's not gonna die. She

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Speaker 1: didn't have to do right, but you still have to

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Speaker 1: spread it. Yeah. Yeah, interesting. So it is what it is.

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Speaker 1: But if you're going to the game on Saturday and

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Speaker 1: don't put up a fight, just live with it. Is

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Speaker 1: what it is. Deal with it. You stadiums and things

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Speaker 1: are going, well, go go cheers. That's gonna be the

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Speaker 1: big thing. It's gonna be a crowd at hines Field,

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Speaker 1: right right. Enjoy it. That's kind of fun. Yeah. And

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Speaker 1: you don't have to wear the mask in your seat. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's awesome. I guess nobody's making you go to the

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00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:46,080
Speaker 1: any indoors in any of these things. Nobody's making you

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Speaker 1: go to the bathroom or anything like. Just enjoy the game.

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Speaker 1: Enjoy the game. From what I've interpreted from Bird's uh

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Speaker 1: announcement there though, he said, if you haven't been vaccinated,

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00:47:57,480 --> 00:47:59,480
Speaker 1: please wear your masks the whole time. But ask you

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00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:01,600
Speaker 1: to do that. They're not asking you to improve it.

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00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:03,719
Speaker 1: They're not making you you know, I mean, even in

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Speaker 1: that situation, or you don't have to show proof of

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Speaker 1: vaccination or anything like that. Yeah, it's a weird time,

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Speaker 1: but we're gonna take another break. He is Matt Williamson.

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Speaker 1: I'm Dale Lally. We'll be back with our two right

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Speaker 1: after this. From Bradshaw and the Steel Curtain to Roethlisberger

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Speaker 1: and Blitzburg. We are always talking black and gold on

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Speaker 1: s n R.