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Speaker 3: Hello everyone, Welcome back to another NFL episode of the

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Speaker 3: Action Network Podcast. I'm Matthew Freeman, the editor in chief

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Speaker 3: of Fantasy Labs. Today, with week three of the preseason

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Speaker 3: in the rearview, we are breaking down our final fantasy

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Speaker 3: rankings barring any big injuries, of course, for the twenty

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Speaker 3: nineteen season long drafts. You of course can find our

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Speaker 3: updated projections and rankings at the Fantasy Football Draft Kit

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Speaker 3: at the Action Network. On our podcasting schedule for the season,

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Speaker 3: on Monday, Stucky and Colin Wilson will review the action

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Speaker 3: On Wednesday, Shawn Corner, Chris Raybond, and I usually with

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Speaker 3: season long and dfs perspective with an appearance from Peter Jennings.

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Speaker 3: On Thursday, Stucky and Raymond will do a betting preview

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Speaker 3: for the Slate, and then on Friday, Colin and Stucky

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Speaker 3: will do their college football betting preview. It is going

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Speaker 3: to be a fantastic season. Here with me for this

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Speaker 3: episode is Sewan Corner and Chris Raybond. Shawn is our

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Speaker 3: director of Predictive Analytics and one of the top end

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Speaker 3: season fantasy football rankers for the past half decade, and

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Speaker 3: Chris is a senior editor and analyst at the Action

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Speaker 3: Network and a co host of the Action Network show

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Speaker 3: on sirius XM Fantasy Radio. And joining us this is

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Speaker 3: really exciting. Joining us talk about his fantasy football rankings

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Speaker 3: and the players he's drafting and staying away from. Is

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Speaker 3: Brad Evans, a legendary football writer for Yahoo Sports, a

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Speaker 3: Fantasy Sports Writers Association Hall of Famer, and a guy

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Speaker 3: very much obsessed with wavos. Brad, what's going on? Thanks

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Speaker 3: for joining us? Legendary.

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Speaker 2: Wow, that is quite the honor you have bestowed upon me.

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Speaker 2: I don't think anybody has said that. Usually they say

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Speaker 2: lame instead of legendary. That applies to me, but I

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Speaker 2: appreciate you guys having on the show just to you know,

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Speaker 2: kind of get some things out of the way. You

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Speaker 2: can also check out my podcast on Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts,

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Speaker 2: wherever we download a listen to your podcast called The

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Speaker 2: Fantasy Record And I also have an Ashley syndicated television

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Speaker 1: Again, though, thanks for having me.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Brad, see, this is what I'm talking about. Legendary.

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Speaker 3: You've You've got your stuff, You're you're very much doing

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Speaker 3: everything at this time of the year, and that's why

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Speaker 3: we were having you on the show because you are

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Speaker 3: very plugged in. We have a couple of news items

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Speaker 3: from this past week, and obviously Andrew Lut's retirement, Lamar

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Speaker 3: want to get some insight into your ranking process because

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Speaker 3: it is that time everyone is looking at fantasy football rankings.

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Speaker 3: What are the stats that you prioritize. Give me the

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Speaker 3: low down on the way that you approach the ranking process.

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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I mean, i'd take everything on a case.

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Speaker 2: My case basis, you know, I'm somebody that is steeped

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Speaker 1: So there's a lot that goes in to the process.

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Speaker 2: And the one thing I think is most important when

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Speaker 2: As we saw over the weekend, right everybody on their

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Speaker 2: Culmination of a variety of angles and takes and perspectives.

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Speaker 3: All right, For your fantasy drafts, do you have strategies

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Speaker 2: I employ the zero strategy strategy in and of itself,

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Speaker 2: we all have our pet players.

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Speaker 1: I always get my guys.

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Speaker 2: The print out says, get him because he's going to

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Speaker 2: So I didn't downgrade any of these guys too harshly.

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Speaker 3: Chris, I want to kick it to you. Sean and

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Speaker 3: I talked about how we were approaching the Colts in

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Speaker 3: His twenty seventeen Brad, as you mentioned, was very suboptimal.

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Speaker 3: But he had just joined the team. So that's one

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Speaker 3: how are you approaching Brissett in the rest of the Colts.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so, I think the thing about Andrew Luck was

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Speaker 4: So I think Brissett is going a little bit underrated.

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Speaker 4: I don't think it affects their win TOTO as much

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Speaker 4: with Marlon Mack. I have him right under twenty touches

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Speaker 4: Doyle called eighty passes from Brissett in twenty seventeen, and

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Speaker 3: Duke Johnson gets a pretty big bump in the rankings. Brad,

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Speaker 3: how are you approaching this situation?

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Speaker 1: Well, We're going to wait and see.

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Speaker 2: I think the Houston Texans aren't done making a move

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Speaker 1: You know, everybody automatically.

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Speaker 2: Assumes that do Johnson's going to be the main man,

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Speaker 2: you know, a player that's going to see you know,

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Speaker 1: I think he's constructed to handle that load.

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Speaker 2: He's never really been utilized in that capacity during his

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Speaker 1: Do the Texans go out and sign a JJII.

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Speaker 1: Do they wait and see, you know, who was available

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Speaker 2: Maybe Carlos Hide, who could get kicked to the curb

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Speaker 2: But I'm looking at it as Duke Johnson's going to

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Speaker 1: So if I'm gonna draft this week, am.

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Speaker 2: I going to extend the go go gadget arm to

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Speaker 2: acquire his services?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 2: I got him at RB twenty seven. I think he's

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Speaker 2: move Sean.

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Speaker 3: Is that kind of in line with what your thoughts

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Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly so right now, I mean I'm pretty conservative

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Speaker 5: with his projections. I'm only projecting him for about thirteen

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Speaker 3: All right, Chris, any thoughts here on Duke Johnson?

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Speaker 4: I mean, listen, I'm kind of in why with Sean

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Speaker 4: And the thing about Duke is, remember Lamar Miller when

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Speaker 4: And I think the same thing is true for Duke

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Speaker 4: these unproven guys like a Damario Krockett, Karan Higden, buddy,

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Speaker 4: how any of these guys, and our cap situation doesn't

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Speaker 4: But right now, if you're drafting and you know Duke's

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Speaker 3: All right, let's start to get into some talk of

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that.

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Speaker 2: Is a sixty four thousand dollars question, you know, Stephen

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Speaker 2: though there's still a clear impasses. You know, Zeke is

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Speaker 2: the deal's going to get done. My gut says, and

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Speaker 1: They don't really need him the first three weeks.

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Speaker 1: Matchups before heading to New Orleans in Week four.

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Speaker 2: But you know, even if I got fourteen games of Zeke,

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Speaker 2: the upside, knowing that Zeke is the heart and soul.

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Speaker 2: He's in a vibrant fantasy environment, Knowing that offensive line's

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Speaker 2: So I'd be willing to roll the dice on him

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Speaker 2: at that point. At number five for me, believe or not,

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Speaker 2: Number one in yard type of contact per temp last year,

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Speaker 1: Back over the second half of the season. Absolute stud.

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Speaker 2: You do have some concerns in that offensive line, but

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Speaker 1: No, I'm not worried about Kareem Hunt.

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Speaker 2: I still think there's a decent chance Hunt gets traded

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Speaker 1: He's just there merely as insurance.

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Speaker 2: If he does come back, he's going to be a

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Speaker 3: All right, CHOHn, we talked about this some on the

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's tough right now, but even I'm projecting him

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Speaker 5: But the first five picks should definitely be these running backs,

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Speaker 3: Right there, Brat talking about another back who is holding out,

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Speaker 3: down the draft board quite a bit. What are your

437
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Speaker 3: thoughts on him?

438
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Speaker 1: Oh, please come back to me, Melvin. Those are my thoughts.

439
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Speaker 2: I'm heavily invested in him because I participate a lot

440
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Speaker 2: of drafts. Early took the chance, and I played with fire,

441
00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:30,800
Speaker 2: and I'm getting burned. I mean it's hot in hell

442
00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:32,919
Speaker 2: right now and I got a lot of sweat on

443
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Speaker 2: my brow as a result of it. But yeah, I

444
00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:38,119
Speaker 2: mean it's a dire straight situation for him. You know,

445
00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:41,080
Speaker 2: the divide between the two side seems greater compared to

446
00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:45,480
Speaker 2: Zeke and Jerry and Stephen Jones. Tom Telesco is not

447
00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:48,639
Speaker 2: a guy who will budge. You know, that trench has

448
00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:51,239
Speaker 2: been dug all the way to China. They're offering him

449
00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:53,639
Speaker 2: fair money, you know, ten million dollars a year. He

450
00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:56,639
Speaker 2: was slated to make five point six this year. You know,

451
00:19:56,760 --> 00:19:58,600
Speaker 2: he would be the third highest paid running back in

452
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Speaker 2: the league if he would just take the damn money

453
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Speaker 2: and Melvin.

454
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Speaker 1: Quit listen to the people are giving you bad advice.

455
00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:06,560
Speaker 2: And take the damn money because that's exactly what you're worth.

456
00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:09,520
Speaker 2: You have no leverage, So it's gonna be interesting to

457
00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:12,439
Speaker 2: see what happens. I mean, he's been making, you know,

458
00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:14,360
Speaker 2: overtures about hey leveyon Bell.

459
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Speaker 1: You know, he I appreciate what he did. Maybe he's gonna.

460
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Speaker 2: Follow that same line, though eventually he's gonna have to

461
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Speaker 2: report by week ten to with crew that season of

462
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Speaker 2: free agency.

463
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Speaker 1: So at this juncture, I mean, when.

464
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Speaker 2: Can you take the plunge and let's say a twelve

465
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Speaker 2: team draft, maybe round five around six, I think that's

466
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Speaker 2: when he started entertaining him.

467
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Speaker 1: If he's still there, if you're in.

468
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Speaker 2: An auction format, he's probably worth right around eighteen to

469
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Speaker 2: twenty two dollars. But you're gonna have to break out

470
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Speaker 2: those fuzzy handcuffs, whether it's for Austin Eckler or I

471
00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:49,800
Speaker 2: would prefer Justin Jackson, who you're getting.

472
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Speaker 1: Still right around ADP of one thirty. That's an insane value.

473
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Speaker 2: I know Eckler's out snapped him, but I think Jackson

474
00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:57,760
Speaker 2: is going to be the primary goal line back within

475
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Speaker 2: this Chargers offense. And let's be I mean Austin Eckler

476
00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:04,560
Speaker 2: looked very pedestrian when he got the full load in

477
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Speaker 2: a couple of games last year. Yeah, it's thinks it's

478
00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:11,080
Speaker 2: an unfortunate situation for fantasy owners, for sports betters out there,

479
00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:13,240
Speaker 2: but for me again, I'd be willing to take the

480
00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:15,440
Speaker 2: risk at five or six, knowing that you can get

481
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Speaker 2: some pretty good values at running back later again, one

482
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Speaker 2: of those being Justin Jackson Raymond.

483
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Speaker 3: In our rankings within the Fantasy Football Draft Kit, you

484
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Speaker 3: are the lowest out of the three of us on

485
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Speaker 3: Melvin Gordon. Can you talk about your thoughts on his

486
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Speaker 3: situation when you think we actually might see him, because

487
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Speaker 3: that really is kind of the big question of how

488
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Speaker 3: many games he's going to play this year.

489
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Speaker 4: First of all, he already gets docked a tiny bit

490
00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:41,480
Speaker 4: more than most backs for injury, hasn't only played one

491
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Speaker 4: full season, so I kind of started out with a

492
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Speaker 4: projection somewhere in the mid fourteens for games played when

493
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Speaker 4: he started holding out, started kind of lowering that gradually

494
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Speaker 4: week by week, and now he's down to around nine

495
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Speaker 4: and a half games played for me, So that's kind

496
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Speaker 4: of my over under for him this season.

497
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Speaker 1: And listen, I just don't I'm just fading him.

498
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Speaker 4: I really don't see the value in drafting him even

499
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Speaker 4: in the fifth round, because you're talking about Okay, let's

500
00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:09,439
Speaker 4: say he gives you first round value, right, what are

501
00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:13,000
Speaker 4: you getting over the alternatives? Maybe you know, five points

502
00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:16,560
Speaker 4: per game better than what you would have gotten anyway, Well,

503
00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:18,960
Speaker 4: you know, the downside is still he plays zero games

504
00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:22,280
Speaker 4: within this whole situation. You know, you talk about Echoler,

505
00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:25,600
Speaker 4: for example, looking pedestrian. I think Melvin Gordon's look pedestrian

506
00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:27,679
Speaker 4: a lot of the time. It's just that that's a

507
00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:29,960
Speaker 4: good situation in that charger offense. But I think if

508
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Speaker 4: he steps in, I don't know if we can necessarily

509
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Speaker 4: even expect him to step into the same role that

510
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Speaker 4: he had even last year with Justin Jackson emerging and

511
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Speaker 4: I think demanding a greater workload in Eckler's role. Let's

512
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Speaker 4: say Gordon comes back, I don't think Ekwer's role is

513
00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:46,600
Speaker 4: going anywhere as that kind of Danny woodhead kind of

514
00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:49,440
Speaker 4: back in that offense. So Gordon, even if he comes back,

515
00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:50,720
Speaker 4: he'll come back to a lesser role.

516
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Speaker 1: He's older. I think he's peaked already.

517
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Speaker 4: So yeah, I just don't think you're getting that much

518
00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:59,040
Speaker 4: of a value from taking him anywhere, but your downside

519
00:22:59,080 --> 00:22:59,400
Speaker 4: is zero.

520
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Speaker 1: So that's kind of how I'm approaching it.

521
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Speaker 4: I don't want anything to do with them and some

522
00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:06,480
Speaker 4: of the teams that need running backs, I just don't know,

523
00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:08,000
Speaker 4: Like you know, Houston, I just don't know if the

524
00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:10,639
Speaker 4: cap situation is there to trade for Melvin Gordon to

525
00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:15,400
Speaker 4: where he would really benefit from like changing teams. So yeah,

526
00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:17,680
Speaker 4: just like you know, let somebody else deal with it.

527
00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:19,200
Speaker 4: That's my that's my philosophy on it.

528
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Speaker 3: I feel like this is a slightly different version of

529
00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:24,800
Speaker 3: the Josh Gordon conversation we had last year, where Raymond's like,

530
00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:27,680
Speaker 3: there's a chance he plays no games, Like I don't.

531
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Speaker 3: I don't think that Melvin Gordon is going to play

532
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Speaker 3: zero games. I think there's the very real chance that

533
00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:35,880
Speaker 3: his playing right now is just to sit at home

534
00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:38,280
Speaker 3: and then come back in Week ten and play the

535
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Speaker 3: bare minimum of games that he needs to in order

536
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Speaker 3: to become a free agent next year.

537
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Speaker 4: I think, and that's fair, Listen, I think that the

538
00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:48,560
Speaker 4: one thing about us experts quote unquote experts talking about

539
00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:51,720
Speaker 4: it is we play hundreds of drafts, right, yeah, and

540
00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:53,479
Speaker 4: a lot of people out there listening to this are

541
00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:56,560
Speaker 4: playing in one, maybe two, three drafts, right, and it's

542
00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:58,879
Speaker 4: easy for us to say, hey, I'll kind of hedge

543
00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:01,239
Speaker 4: my bets with Melvin Gordon or Josh Gordon, whoever these

544
00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:03,199
Speaker 4: guys are, and like, I don't mind if I have

545
00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:05,760
Speaker 4: a certain amount of exposure to him, because I have

546
00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:07,680
Speaker 4: you know, you know, ninety percent of my teams.

547
00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:10,360
Speaker 1: He's not on them anyway, right, But like, yeah, let's

548
00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:10,920
Speaker 1: say we.

549
00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:13,760
Speaker 4: Said this about three players last year, Like we said

550
00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:16,800
Speaker 4: it about Josh Gordon, and we said it about waveon

551
00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:19,520
Speaker 4: Bell for example. There's a lot of people that took

552
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Speaker 4: that advice on on waveon Bell and said, hey, we

553
00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:23,760
Speaker 4: don't you know, we think he's gonna play or whatever,

554
00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:26,439
Speaker 4: and they got screwed. And that's why I'm kind of,

555
00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:29,119
Speaker 4: you know, conservative when it comes to these guys in

556
00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:32,280
Speaker 4: these higher rounds, because I just think that there's still alternative.

557
00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:35,480
Speaker 4: It's not like, you know, if Melvin Gordon's there in

558
00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:37,440
Speaker 4: the double digit rounds, it's a whole different story because

559
00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:39,919
Speaker 4: you're not necessarily getting a guy that you know has

560
00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:41,880
Speaker 4: a chance to come back and automatically put up double

561
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Speaker 4: digit Fantasy points. But when you're still talking about guys

562
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:48,000
Speaker 4: in the fifth, sixth round, you're getting sixteen game upside,

563
00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:51,080
Speaker 4: fifteen game upside. You know, most people don't play Fantasy

564
00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:54,199
Speaker 4: in week seventeen, but you're getting fifteen game upside, whereas

565
00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:56,640
Speaker 4: if not, you're you're taking your You're using a pick

566
00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:59,200
Speaker 4: on a guy who's happing your ceiling for that pick,

567
00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:01,480
Speaker 4: and you're also have to replace that guy for the

568
00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:03,600
Speaker 4: whatever x amount of weeks that he's out, so you're

569
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:05,840
Speaker 4: also kind of capping your ceiling for those picks.

570
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Speaker 1: And it's just like there's a kind of a cumulative effect.

571
00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:10,359
Speaker 4: It's not just in a vacuum of Okay, I have

572
00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:12,280
Speaker 4: this guy now is on my bench as an RB three,

573
00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:14,520
Speaker 4: and boom, I'm just like exploding once he comes back.

574
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Speaker 1: But it affects your roster in a number of other ways.

575
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Speaker 4: So that's why I'm kind of conservative when it comes

576
00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:22,320
Speaker 4: to these guys and these misgame projections.

577
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Speaker 3: All right, transitioning from running back to wide receiver, Brad,

578
00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:28,720
Speaker 3: you mentioned that in your top five you have all

579
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Speaker 3: running backs, where is it that you would start to

580
00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:34,000
Speaker 3: think about wide receiver and who is it that you

581
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Speaker 3: are looking to draft firs at the position?

582
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think at that number six overall

583
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:41,879
Speaker 2: point maybe seven. I mean, for me, it's DeAndre Hopkins,

584
00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:43,320
Speaker 2: who I think is still the La Crement of La

585
00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:46,679
Speaker 2: Crema the position. I understand the concerns all offensively along

586
00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:49,240
Speaker 2: the front line for the Houston Texans, but assuming that

587
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:51,600
Speaker 2: Deshaun Watson can stay healthy, He's got the best hands

588
00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:54,320
Speaker 2: of the league. He's gott to see voluminous work. He

589
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:56,680
Speaker 2: just catches everything inside. I mean, he's a steady eddy.

590
00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:58,920
Speaker 2: It's going to get your sixty eight reception seemingly every

591
00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:01,639
Speaker 2: single game, but close to one hundred yards on average

592
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:03,320
Speaker 2: and the occasional touchdown. I mean, you can make an

593
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:06,520
Speaker 2: argument for Devonte Adams. I've been in a spot where

594
00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:09,520
Speaker 2: I've been painted on a corner at number nine in

595
00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:12,920
Speaker 2: so many mock and real drafts, and I've been going

596
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:16,480
Speaker 2: wide receiver and wide receiver typically in those first two picks,

597
00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:18,359
Speaker 2: and Adams is a guy that I target at that point.

598
00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:21,680
Speaker 2: I think he is going to lead all NFL wide

599
00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:25,000
Speaker 2: receivers in touchdowns this year. He's tend to want to

600
00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:28,399
Speaker 2: do that, by the way, at the Fandled Sportsbook in Jersey.

601
00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:30,560
Speaker 2: So that's a sound wager to make if you can

602
00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:32,760
Speaker 2: still get that kind of value on him. But it's

603
00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:35,520
Speaker 2: all about safety at wide receiver and if you want

604
00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:37,879
Speaker 2: to zig while other zag and try to invest in

605
00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:40,720
Speaker 2: some of those high end luxury running backs, it's a

606
00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:43,320
Speaker 2: sage strategy. I mean, you look historically, the bus rate

607
00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:45,560
Speaker 2: since two thousand and nine of RB one's is right

608
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:48,560
Speaker 2: around forty five percent. Meanwhile, the bus rate for wide

609
00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:51,840
Speaker 2: receiver ones during that same duration is thirty six point

610
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:55,720
Speaker 2: seven percent, so typically you have safer floors with a

611
00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:58,359
Speaker 2: lot of those light outs out there. So yeah, again,

612
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Speaker 2: metal portion around one you like, eh, I'm kind of

613
00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:04,720
Speaker 2: lukewarm on Le'Veon Bell Deandrei's there, Davonte Adams, is there?

614
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:06,040
Speaker 1: Maybe a Julio Jones.

615
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:08,520
Speaker 2: I think you take the plunge at wide receiver and

616
00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:11,480
Speaker 2: then maybe get a Dalvin Cook on the comeback in

617
00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:13,640
Speaker 2: round two to the first of five, or maybe even

618
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:16,800
Speaker 2: an obj if he's still there sipping pinaclattas in the

619
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:19,600
Speaker 2: free agent pool at that juncture in the draft.

620
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Speaker 3: All right, Sean, your thoughts on wide receivers. Are they similar?

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Speaker 3: Is number six around where you start to take your

622
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Speaker 3: wide receiver?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I would say number six. If the top five

624
00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:32,600
Speaker 5: running backs are off the board, that's when I would

625
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:35,679
Speaker 5: take a receiver. And you know, every week I have

626
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:38,960
Speaker 5: Hopkins and Adams kind of rotate, and this week Hopkins

627
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:41,560
Speaker 5: is my number one receiver. Again, it's not something that

628
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:44,120
Speaker 5: I've been spending all summer sweating about. I think if

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Speaker 5: I had one hundred drafts, I would take Hopkins about

630
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:50,119
Speaker 5: fifty one times there and Adams forty nine. So when

631
00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:52,840
Speaker 5: it comes to just my projections, I have at Hopkins

632
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:55,919
Speaker 5: with about one hundred more yards than Adams, I have

633
00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:59,080
Speaker 5: them both the same receptions, and then I have Adams

634
00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:01,639
Speaker 5: with one point five more touchdowns. So it seems like

635
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:04,959
Speaker 5: Hopkins more of the higher floor play because yards are

636
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:07,320
Speaker 5: more predictable. For Adams, you know, it's kind of dependent

637
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 5: on his touchdown production, so he'll have a little bit

638
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:12,040
Speaker 5: wider range outcomes. So I do like Hopkins as sort

639
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:14,240
Speaker 5: of the safer play over Adams. But you know, I'll

640
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:15,760
Speaker 5: take either one at six if I have.

641
00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:18,680
Speaker 3: To Raymond for you, is it a pretty big tear

642
00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:22,919
Speaker 3: drop after Hopkins and Adams to whoever it is that

643
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:24,600
Speaker 3: you have a wide receiver three.

644
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 1: It's not a huge tear drop, you know.

645
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:29,639
Speaker 4: I think it's kind of what Sean said where you

646
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:32,560
Speaker 4: shouldn't be sweating these early round picks. I mean, Julio Jones,

647
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:33,959
Speaker 4: I think you could make a case to take him

648
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 4: even number one Odell Beckham's same thing. It's just comes

649
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:39,560
Speaker 4: down to your Tyreek ko another guy. So I don't

650
00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:41,560
Speaker 4: really sweat them. I think, you know, I do have

651
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:43,800
Speaker 4: Hopkins in Adams pretty much equal.

652
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Speaker 1: I don't think there's much separation between them.

653
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Speaker 4: But I think that for me, it's I would start

654
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Speaker 4: taking I would start taking a look at a wide

655
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:53,440
Speaker 4: receiver after my top four running backs, and that number

656
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:56,040
Speaker 4: four would be David Johnson, not Ezeqi Elliott, because again,

657
00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:57,680
Speaker 4: it just comes down to the fact that there's still

658
00:28:57,720 --> 00:28:59,600
Speaker 4: a chance that you're you're just not getting that that

659
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:02,440
Speaker 4: fifteen game ceiling with Ezekiel Elliott. And I think it's

660
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:05,120
Speaker 4: agreedious that people are kind of like questioning David Johnson,

661
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 4: you know, as that next guy up that in those

662
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 4: running back tiers, because if you look at you know,

663
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:12,680
Speaker 4: Arizona ran fifty six point four plays last year.

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Speaker 1: Cliff Kingsbury wants them.

665
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Speaker 4: To be at the top of the league, which means

666
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Speaker 4: they would be, you know, at sixty eight to seventy range,

667
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:21,760
Speaker 4: and that's where they were at twenty sixteen. David Johnson

668
00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:23,640
Speaker 4: at the same amount of touchhore in twenty eighteen and

669
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Speaker 4: twenty sixteen, right around thirty four percent.

670
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Speaker 1: If he gets that again.

671
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Speaker 4: You know, twenty sixteen, he posted a top five fantasy

672
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 4: season of the past half decade at running back, So

673
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:34,960
Speaker 4: I think he's right there in that mix. In last year,

674
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:36,520
Speaker 4: we just kind of saw what the floor could be

675
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:38,880
Speaker 4: when you're in a horrible, horrible offense, and I think.

676
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Speaker 1: It's going to be a lot different this year.

677
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 4: And he has that upside to finish as the number

678
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:44,760
Speaker 4: one overall back, and he could actually do it quite

679
00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 4: easily if he gets a similar workload to what he's

680
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:51,240
Speaker 4: been getting and in Arizona really does go as fast

681
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 4: as as they want to.

682
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Speaker 3: All Right, this is classic. I asked Raymond and question

683
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:58,480
Speaker 3: about wide receivers and he ended up turning it into

684
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Speaker 3: an answer. We are in mid season fourm Brad. One

685
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Speaker 3: of the biggest questions I think that people have is

686
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Speaker 3: what to do at tight end, and specifically, do you

687
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:11,960
Speaker 3: take the plunge on a top three tight end or

688
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Speaker 3: do you wait at the position and hope that you

689
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Speaker 3: hit gold with someone later in the draft. How important

690
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:18,880
Speaker 3: do you think it is to get one of these

691
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:21,480
Speaker 3: top three guys. I don't think it's vital. I don't

692
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:22,760
Speaker 3: think it's that important.

693
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:24,640
Speaker 2: I know there are a lot of people out there

694
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Speaker 2: that are toying with the idea of taking Travis Kelsey

695
00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:28,800
Speaker 2: the back half of round one.

696
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:30,880
Speaker 1: I find that to be pure insanity.

697
00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:35,000
Speaker 2: Good as Kelsey is, I think you really pigeonhole yourself

698
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:38,080
Speaker 2: at other positions when you give up that kind of

699
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:40,520
Speaker 2: draft equity to focus on a tight end.

700
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Speaker 1: It's right up there, really with like Patrick.

701
00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:45,800
Speaker 2: Mahomes and drafting him early on and you know, one

702
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 2: of the first second or third picks of your draft.

703
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:50,560
Speaker 2: You know, I understand the argument for the other guys

704
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:53,160
Speaker 2: there were Kittle and ERTs, they have extremely high floors.

705
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:56,200
Speaker 2: But for me, there is great value in that next

706
00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:58,760
Speaker 2: tier of tight ends with Evan Ingram and Oj Howard

707
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:02,600
Speaker 2: and Hudder. Hen I really focus on Oj Howard. I

708
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 2: just love the setup in Tampa Bay. They're down twenty

709
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 2: to nothing in every game imaginable. I think that defense

710
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:11,160
Speaker 2: is going to be the dregs of the keg in

711
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:13,440
Speaker 2: the NFL this season. And Howard is a guy that

712
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 2: has immense talent number one last year in yards per

713
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 2: target at the position. It's just a matter of him

714
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 2: getting the target share and staying healthy. And I think

715
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:25,200
Speaker 2: this is going to be the year under the kangle

716
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:28,720
Speaker 2: hat and Bruce arians where it's all going to come

717
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,800
Speaker 2: together and it's gonna be beautiful music between him and

718
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 2: Jamis Winston.

719
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Speaker 1: So that's where I focus.

720
00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:36,920
Speaker 2: If you even want to wait a little bit later

721
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:39,840
Speaker 2: at Austin, Hooper is not a bad pickup. Hebron still

722
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:44,120
Speaker 2: even with the change, a quarterback is no slouch. Even

723
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 2: a guy like Mark Andrews, who has been one of

724
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 2: the surprise sensations of the not necessarily preseason, but in practice,

725
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:53,880
Speaker 2: who's made a lot of noise that already has an

726
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 2: established chemistry with Lamar Jackson. I mean, you're getting him

727
00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:59,040
Speaker 2: at like one, twenty one, twenty five. Overall, I always

728
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:01,120
Speaker 2: just wait, just pump the breaks on it. Let somebody

729
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 2: else make the mistake of going after one of the

730
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:06,440
Speaker 2: Big three while you're focusing on grabbing the best running

731
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:08,480
Speaker 2: back or wide receiver off the board.

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00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:12,960
Speaker 3: Brad mentioned Mark Andrews, and I had to just take

733
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:15,960
Speaker 3: a moment to catch my breath. Corner. Can you make

734
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 3: the pro argument for why it is not a horrible

735
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 3: idea for someone to draft one of these top three

736
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 3: tight ends.

737
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't think it's a horrible idea. I think

738
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:27,240
Speaker 5: it does have to kind of fit in your draft plan.

739
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,440
Speaker 5: I think if Kelsey falls around too, you have to

740
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 5: get them so, and then I think Kittle and Ertz

741
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:36,640
Speaker 5: you typically want to wait until mid to late round

742
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 5: three to get them. So I think if you have

743
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:42,360
Speaker 5: one of the first four picks in the draft, you're

744
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:44,240
Speaker 5: probably not going to be in a position to get

745
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 5: one of these tight ends, which I think this year

746
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 5: is fine. One of the things we talked about yesterday was,

747
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 5: you know, the these tight ends are so valuable that

748
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 5: your team's pretty fragile. If one of them gets hurt,

749
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 5: your screwed, because you're going to have to start tapping

750
00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:58,320
Speaker 5: in the waveriight for tight end. It's going to be

751
00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:00,480
Speaker 5: pretty brutal this year. I think one of the things

752
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:03,000
Speaker 5: I do like better this year than last year. I

753
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 5: remember last year I was saying you have to get

754
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:07,240
Speaker 5: a top three tight end was because the next tier

755
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:10,320
Speaker 5: was the ARP tier of Greg Olsen, Jimmy Graham and

756
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 5: Delaney Walker, which I just hated. But now we have

757
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:15,440
Speaker 5: oj Howard, Evan, Ingram Hunter, Henry. I think all those

758
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:18,720
Speaker 5: guys have massive potential, and I've been getting Austin Hooper

759
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 5: pretty late so this year, I think there's just more

760
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 5: options if you happen to miss out on the top three.

761
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 5: But having said that, if Kelsey falls you in round two,

762
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 5: I think you got to get him and then kill

763
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 5: on Ertz. If they fall to you at at the

764
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:33,720
Speaker 5: end of round three, I think you got to get him.

765
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Speaker 1: All right.

766
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:36,720
Speaker 3: Raymond any thoughts here on tight ends and what you're

767
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:37,680
Speaker 3: going to be doing.

768
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think yeah. I'm kind of with Sean, don't.

769
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:43,080
Speaker 4: I don't think it's a bad idea at all to

770
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 4: get one of those top three guys because if you

771
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 4: look at Kelsey, for example, one hundred and three catches

772
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 4: last year, three hundred and thirty six yards, ten touchdowns,

773
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:54,480
Speaker 4: he's in the top ten in all receiving categories. So

774
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:57,200
Speaker 4: you're just getting a great pass catcher who there is

775
00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 4: not a non zero chance that this guy can lead

776
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 4: the league in catches or yards or touch or receiving touchdown.

777
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:06,120
Speaker 4: So I don't look at it as kind of in

778
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:08,520
Speaker 4: a vacuum of tight end. I just look at it

779
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 4: as I'm getting a great pass catcher here, and if

780
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:14,880
Speaker 4: I have to make that up now at wide receiver

781
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 4: versus tight end, I feel fine with that because at

782
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:19,800
Speaker 4: the end of the day, there are more wide receivers

783
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:22,359
Speaker 4: that can put up that can kind of replace those

784
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 4: numbers later on. So if my wide receiver three, for example,

785
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:28,399
Speaker 4: can put up better tight end numbers than a guy

786
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:32,080
Speaker 4: like a, you know, Oj Howard or Evan Ingram, So

787
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:34,120
Speaker 4: I don't think it's a bad idea at all to

788
00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:36,040
Speaker 4: get one of these top guys at tight end. That

789
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:38,720
Speaker 4: being said, I think there is value throughout the draft.

790
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 4: I think you just want to kind of make sure

791
00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 4: you secure your tight end by the time that Austin

792
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:45,840
Speaker 4: Hooper is off the board. Like if I'm in a

793
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:49,160
Speaker 4: twelve team league and Austin Hooper's off the board, now

794
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:50,160
Speaker 4: it's like where do I go?

795
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:51,759
Speaker 1: You know, do I you know, do I go to

796
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 1: a Duyne Walker?

797
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 4: Do I go to An Andrews? That that kind of

798
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:58,640
Speaker 4: question is not one that I want to be having

799
00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 4: to answer with my tight end.

800
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 1: So I think Hooper is the last guy.

801
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:04,759
Speaker 4: I think if you miss out on a top three guy,

802
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:06,920
Speaker 4: you just wait till the value falls to you. I

803
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 4: like every single guy if you can get him at

804
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 4: ADP or beyond it in terms of the rest of

805
00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:15,880
Speaker 4: those tight ends through Austin Hooper, and then it just

806
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:17,480
Speaker 4: kind of falls off a quick for me.

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Speaker 3: to ask you about your most invested players. So either

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00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 3: those are like maybe the guys emotionally that you're most

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Speaker 3: invested in, or in terms of your rankings or in

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Speaker 3: most of on your team at each position quarterback, running back,

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Speaker 3: wide receiver, and tight end. Who are the guys that

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Speaker 3: you are really invested in for twenty nineteen.

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00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 1: Well, he could read about it on Yahoo Sports.

843
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:12,239
Speaker 2: I released my old man crush team for twenty nineteen

844
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 2: last week. So a quarterback, it's Kyler Murray for me,

845
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:18,399
Speaker 2: a guy that I consistently have gotten well after pick

846
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:20,360
Speaker 2: one hundred and a lot of drafts. You know, his

847
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 2: draft stock has fluctuated quite a bit this entire preseason.

848
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:27,239
Speaker 2: You know, it was up after preseason Game one, then

849
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 2: all the pressure that he folded and crumbled under in

850
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:33,279
Speaker 2: Week two against the Raiders, it crashed, and it's kind

851
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 2: of up again now after the game and performance in Minnesota.

852
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:38,879
Speaker 2: I understand that he has I'm throwing a touchdown pass

853
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 2: a preseason but who cares. They're still vanilla. They're not

854
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:45,239
Speaker 2: really scheming, they're not really showing their hand. I don't

855
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:47,440
Speaker 2: think his single card in the hand of Cliff Kingsbury

856
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 2: has been played yet. I think it's going to be fireworks.

857
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 2: I think it's going to be fourth of July level

858
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 2: against the Lions at home week one. I love the

859
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 2: scoring duality with him.

860
00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:58,719
Speaker 1: The guy then get it done with his arm. One

861
00:37:58,719 --> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 1: of the most accurate.

862
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 2: Quarterbacks and football last year some small school in Norman Colt, Oklahoma,

863
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:05,720
Speaker 2: and of course he raises the floor with his legs.

864
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 1: Guy's got jack rabbit wheels.

865
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:09,400
Speaker 2: They can get anywhere between six hundred and seven hundred

866
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:12,960
Speaker 2: yards on the ground. Oh and yeah, this defense sucks royally,

867
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 2: especially with Patrick Peterson out the first six games and

868
00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 2: Robert alf For the other starter of that defensive backfield

869
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 2: out and definitely with a leg injury. So I mean,

870
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 2: it's really a perfect storm that's gathered there in the

871
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 2: Sonoran Desert Haboob level type of storm. So I love

872
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 2: Kyler Murray at running back at Stave Montgomery. Everybody that

873
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:32,799
Speaker 2: follows me on Twitter at Yahoo Noise knows I have

874
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:36,960
Speaker 2: a mandatory Montgomery update pretty much every single day. I've

875
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:41,440
Speaker 2: been stoking the fires of the hype machine constantly this offseason.

876
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:43,239
Speaker 2: He's got the shimmy, the shake over one hundred miss

877
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:45,400
Speaker 2: tackles the consecutive seasons, the only running back to do

878
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 2: that for the last five years in the Pro Football

879
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 2: Focus there. And he did it behind a pair of

880
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:52,439
Speaker 2: questionable offensive lines in Iowa State that bears me. While

881
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:54,560
Speaker 2: I have a top ten line, they've got elite defense,

882
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:57,279
Speaker 2: positive game scripts, No, I'm not worried about Cohen, who's

883
00:38:57,280 --> 00:39:00,359
Speaker 2: going to be shifted about as a gadget back, worried

884
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:02,640
Speaker 2: about Mike Davis, who's more or less an insurance policy

885
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:05,280
Speaker 2: maybe gets like three to five touches per game. Monty

886
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:08,680
Speaker 2: is going to be the man in Chicago. Shades of

887
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:12,440
Speaker 2: Matt Fote revisited. So I'm fully invested in him at

888
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:15,200
Speaker 2: wide receiver. Oh you guys brought up his name. I

889
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:18,360
Speaker 2: can't quit him. It's Josh Gordon. If he can stay

890
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:20,759
Speaker 2: on the straight and narrow, and that is a gigantic,

891
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:25,920
Speaker 2: enormous Empires State building sized. If he's a guy that

892
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 2: you know, he's got a clear path to targets. You

893
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:30,239
Speaker 2: got Julian Edelman there is going to see, you know,

894
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:32,480
Speaker 2: maybe upwards of one hundred and fifty to one hundred and

895
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 2: seventy targets.

896
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:35,239
Speaker 1: But Gordon is going to be the main man outside.

897
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 1: He knows the offense.

898
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:38,439
Speaker 2: He was wide receiver twenty three and nine games last

899
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:39,920
Speaker 2: season with New England, in which he play at least

900
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:43,239
Speaker 2: seventy eight percent of the snaps. I think he's got

901
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:46,239
Speaker 2: the trust to TV twelve the average eleven target or

902
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 2: yards per target last year. I mean, you just it's

903
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:53,319
Speaker 2: a culmination of awesomeness really that's gathering for him. So

904
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:57,040
Speaker 2: I think there's seventy one thousand, seventy touchdown appeal. So

905
00:39:57,080 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 2: I'm fully invested. I'm glad I got double digit round

906
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,640
Speaker 2: shares of him before the suspension was.

907
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:04,840
Speaker 1: Lifted, and then it tied in for me.

908
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:07,120
Speaker 2: I just really hate the position, but I'll go back

909
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:09,399
Speaker 2: to Oj Howard, who has been one of my prime

910
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:11,600
Speaker 2: targets in round five, round six, to twelve teen drafts.

911
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 2: Like I said, the sky's a limit. He's got the

912
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:15,760
Speaker 2: skill set. I understand he got Chris God when everybody's

913
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:17,880
Speaker 2: on board with I love him too. I got a

914
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:20,919
Speaker 2: lot of shares of him. I understand Mike Evans is are,

915
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 2: but this team is going to throw early and often

916
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:26,920
Speaker 2: and chase the scoreboard. And then Coward's one of those

917
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:31,040
Speaker 2: guys who's got to deliver steady seventy plus yard occasional

918
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:33,239
Speaker 2: touchdown results throughout the entire year.

919
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:33,920
Speaker 1: So there you go.

920
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 2: There's my handbook this season. And yes, every single one

921
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:40,240
Speaker 2: of the guys I just mentioned is entirely cursed.

922
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:44,440
Speaker 3: I think Brand and I are something of fantasy soulmates.

923
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 3: Because this list is pretty much in line with the

924
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 3: way that I'm thinking. Kyler Murray very much on the

925
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:53,879
Speaker 3: list for me of players I'm invested in. I mean, really,

926
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 3: what you mentioned, David Montgomery, Josh Gordon, OJ Howard, those

927
00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:59,759
Speaker 3: are all guys I'm really into. I'd also say Will

928
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:03,759
Speaker 3: full and obviously Mark Andrews is someone I just can't

929
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:07,719
Speaker 3: get enough of. Chris, who are the players that you

930
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:10,280
Speaker 3: are really invested in this season?

931
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:15,960
Speaker 4: Kyler Murray, Kyler Murray, Kyler M Yeah, I think we guys,

932
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 4: most of the listeners know where we stand on Kyler,

933
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:22,840
Speaker 4: so but Kyler At quarterback, Jared Goff is another quarterback

934
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:25,040
Speaker 4: I'm heavily invested in. I just think everywhere he goes

935
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:27,400
Speaker 4: with the football, there's a lot of good things that

936
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 4: can happen. Mitch Trubisky is kind of and Dak Prescott

937
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:34,240
Speaker 4: is kind of those fringe QB one types. I'm heavily

938
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:37,280
Speaker 4: invested in those guys as well. At running back, Chris Carson.

939
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:40,160
Speaker 4: I mean I've been saying this all offseason, like Carson

940
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:43,120
Speaker 4: is the guy they love him. Rashad Penny, He'll slide

941
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:46,080
Speaker 4: into that. Mike Davis roll if something happens to Carson. Yes,

942
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:48,920
Speaker 4: Rashad Penny now is in that RB one conversation, but

943
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:50,959
Speaker 4: I think this is going to be the Chris Carson Show.

944
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:52,960
Speaker 4: I think he's a better player in every facet than

945
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 4: Rashad Penny, and I think the organization in Seattle in

946
00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:58,319
Speaker 4: terms of the coaching staff, feels the exact same way.

947
00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 4: So I'm all in on him. Leonard Fournette is a

948
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:03,400
Speaker 4: guy that I have more of than probably most. I

949
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:04,799
Speaker 4: think that he's going to be a center piece of

950
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:07,680
Speaker 4: that offense. In better shape, I'm gonna catch more footballs

951
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:09,919
Speaker 4: this year. They got John d Filippo, who's a little

952
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 4: more balanced on offense. I think I think Fournette have

953
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 4: a blow up year. Josh Jacobs is a guy calin bolage.

954
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:19,080
Speaker 4: I've been drafting him since the offseason. Darwin Thompson another

955
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:22,759
Speaker 4: one heavily invested. And Tony Pollard of the Cowboys. Guys

956
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:24,960
Speaker 4: that I think, could you know, kind of be in

957
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:28,759
Speaker 4: great situations that standalone value, but also really blow up

958
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:31,919
Speaker 4: if something happened to, you know, the guy in front

959
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 4: of them. Wide receiver Christian Kirk of the Arizona Cardinals,

960
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 4: entering his second year. I don't think we realize how

961
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:41,760
Speaker 4: well he did last year with two quarterbacks in Bradford

962
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:44,120
Speaker 4: and Rosen, who combines to post one of the five

963
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:46,719
Speaker 4: worst passer ratings of the past half decade for the Cardinals.

964
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:49,960
Speaker 4: Christian Kirk had an amazing season, so really high on him. Freeman,

965
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:52,200
Speaker 4: as you mentioned, Will Fuller, a guy that I think

966
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:54,400
Speaker 4: is going to underrated Sammy Watkins as well. Kind of

967
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:57,799
Speaker 4: these kind of pieces that you don't think of on

968
00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:00,439
Speaker 4: these high powered offenses. Kind of the second, third, fourth

969
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:03,919
Speaker 4: options in those spots I think offer a lot of value.

970
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:06,279
Speaker 4: Alan Robinson as well, a guy I think entering age

971
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:09,160
Speaker 4: twenty sixth season that's when wide receivers usually peak. Another

972
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:11,880
Speaker 4: year removed from that, ACL, I think he has a

973
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:14,680
Speaker 4: lot of upside that we're kind of sleeping on there,

974
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 4: and then a tight end I kind of mentioned it.

975
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:19,359
Speaker 4: I like the value through Austin Hooper. So it's kind

976
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:21,680
Speaker 4: of been a balanced approach for me depending on what

977
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:24,279
Speaker 4: draft slot I'm going in, But I will say that

978
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 4: I am a little bit higher than most on David Najoku,

979
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:30,720
Speaker 4: who I feel has some of that Eric Ebron sleeper

980
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:33,800
Speaker 4: appeal where he could have a double digit touchdown season

981
00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:37,400
Speaker 4: just because of you know the scheme there, Freddie Kitchen's

982
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 4: former tight end guy, tight ends coach, you know, seeing

983
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:43,440
Speaker 4: a lot of good things out of Todd Monkin when

984
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:46,480
Speaker 4: it comes to tight ends and touchdowns and just you

985
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 4: have to cover Beckham and Landry and you have to

986
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:51,000
Speaker 4: worry about Chubb and all these guys. So I think

987
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:53,000
Speaker 4: Najoku is the guy that I'm hiding in that in

988
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:56,120
Speaker 4: that tier below the top three. Evan Ingram is a guy.

989
00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 4: I love Howard as well, so Howard, but Evan Ingram,

990
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:01,480
Speaker 4: you know, he averaged over four catches a game last year,

991
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:04,839
Speaker 4: and you know the Giants, you know, without Beckham now

992
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:07,600
Speaker 4: Golden Tate going to miss four games. The way they

993
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:10,440
Speaker 4: use Ingram, he gets extremely high percentage targets. I believe

994
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:14,080
Speaker 4: his average reception last year was you know, about four

995
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:15,879
Speaker 4: yards beyond the line of scrimmage or so.

996
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:18,240
Speaker 1: So this is a guy that gets a lot of targets.

997
00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:20,840
Speaker 4: They almost use him like a running back out of

998
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:23,479
Speaker 4: that Backrouit does a lot after the catch. He could

999
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:26,279
Speaker 4: rack up, you know, catches in a hurry and has

1000
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:28,279
Speaker 4: a shot at putting up. You know, numbers that you

1001
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 4: would equate with like a wide receiver too or something.

1002
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:32,719
Speaker 4: So I like ingram in that in that tier after

1003
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:33,360
Speaker 4: the top three.

1004
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:36,520
Speaker 3: All right, Sean, what about you the players you are

1005
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:38,440
Speaker 3: invested in for this season?

1006
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:42,239
Speaker 5: So for me at QB, I think Jameis Winston and

1007
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 5: Dak Prescott are probably the two quarterbacks I'm most invested in,

1008
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:48,000
Speaker 5: just because they're they're typically going when I want to

1009
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 5: attack quarterbacks or you know, rounds ten through twelve, they're

1010
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:55,080
Speaker 5: They're ranked outside of the top fifteen ADP for some reason,

1011
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:58,880
Speaker 5: but I think both can have you know, QB one outside.

1012
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:01,480
Speaker 5: I think they'll put I'll have steady week to week

1013
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:05,279
Speaker 5: high floors. Maybe Winston didn't last year, but I think

1014
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:08,520
Speaker 5: that'll change this year. With Dirk hutter Gun and Ryan

1015
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 5: Fitzpatrick on the Dolphins, I think the threat of indgame

1016
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 5: bention is a little bit lower this year. So I'm

1017
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:16,920
Speaker 5: putting a lot of trust in Winston. So I'm heavily

1018
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:19,839
Speaker 5: invested in him this year. And then at running back

1019
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 5: Chris Carson. Earlier in the offseason, I was sort of

1020
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:25,880
Speaker 5: getting him in round five and almost every draft. Again,

1021
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:27,920
Speaker 5: he's a guy that sort of fits into my overall

1022
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:30,879
Speaker 5: draft plan of sort of attacking wide receiver early on

1023
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:33,520
Speaker 5: and then attacking running back in rounds three through five.

1024
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:36,239
Speaker 5: His stock's been shooting up considerably lately because I think

1025
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:38,719
Speaker 5: people are catching on that Rashad Penny's going to be

1026
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:41,240
Speaker 5: more of a change of paceback. Mike Davis being gone

1027
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:43,719
Speaker 5: is a huge boost to Chris Carson. I think we're

1028
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:46,439
Speaker 5: realizing that Brian Schottenharmer was saying he expects to give

1029
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:49,239
Speaker 5: Carson fifty targets this year, which is double what he

1030
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:50,840
Speaker 5: had last year. And I think he's still going to

1031
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:53,080
Speaker 5: be heavily used near the goal line. You know, last

1032
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:55,239
Speaker 5: year he was fifth in the league with twenty eight

1033
00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 5: carries inside the ten yard line. The only backs that

1034
00:45:57,600 --> 00:46:01,239
Speaker 5: had more were Todd Gurley, Alvin Kamara, Saquon Barkley, and

1035
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:04,000
Speaker 5: Christian McCaffrey. So that's great company to be in. So

1036
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:07,279
Speaker 5: I think he has RB one upside and people don't

1037
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:10,160
Speaker 5: give enough credit for being on such a run heavy

1038
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:10,799
Speaker 5: team as well.

1039
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:12,680
Speaker 3: And then Latavious Murray.

1040
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:14,600
Speaker 5: I talked to him all the time, but I just

1041
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:17,000
Speaker 5: think he has that perfect blend of you know, a

1042
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:17,719
Speaker 5: pretty high floor.

1043
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:18,200
Speaker 3: I think he.

1044
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:21,319
Speaker 5: Will inherit a lot of the mark Ingram role even

1045
00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:24,000
Speaker 5: if he doesn't. Going at RB thirty five is just

1046
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:26,600
Speaker 5: a crime right now. I think mark Ingram was going

1047
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:28,520
Speaker 5: way higher than that last year when he was even

1048
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:30,719
Speaker 5: suspended four games. So I'm not really sure why the

1049
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:33,880
Speaker 5: market's underrating Murray so much. But again, if Alvin Kahmara

1050
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:36,160
Speaker 5: would ever miss time, Murray would be a low end

1051
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:38,640
Speaker 5: RB one in my weekly model. So I just love

1052
00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:40,920
Speaker 5: himing that built in upside for a guy that should

1053
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:44,680
Speaker 5: give you flex value even when Kamara is healthy. And

1054
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 5: then a wide receiver. You know, I'm loading up on

1055
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:50,759
Speaker 5: my wide receiver early in the draft, so my exposure

1056
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:54,479
Speaker 5: really dependent on sort of my draft order. But later

1057
00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:56,319
Speaker 5: in the draft where it opens up, I think Gide

1058
00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:59,080
Speaker 5: Westbrook is the guy Wh've been targeting the most. Usually

1059
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:03,239
Speaker 5: I have either three receivers locked in, so you know,

1060
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:05,879
Speaker 5: DD's more my flex guy or the first receiver.

1061
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:06,120
Speaker 1: On my bench.

1062
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:08,439
Speaker 5: But I think he has a ton of upside. This year,

1063
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:11,360
Speaker 5: he gets to play with veteran quarterback like Nick Foles.

1064
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:13,439
Speaker 5: Now they have a pass happy offensive corner.

1065
00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:13,920
Speaker 3: John D.

1066
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:14,360
Speaker 1: Flippo.

1067
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:16,960
Speaker 5: You know, it was great to see in the third

1068
00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:20,720
Speaker 5: preseason game, the dress reversal. He played fourteen snaps. Foles

1069
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:23,839
Speaker 5: targeted him six times, he got four receptions and square

1070
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:25,799
Speaker 5: a nice little ten yurard touchdown. So it's always good

1071
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:28,120
Speaker 5: to see. I'm in preseason when you know guys I'm

1072
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:31,200
Speaker 5: heavily invested in have the needle pointing up. And then

1073
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:33,360
Speaker 5: at you know, tight end, Ray Bunds mentioned it. I

1074
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:35,680
Speaker 5: really do think Austin Hooper is sort of the last

1075
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:38,920
Speaker 5: tight end that I'm willing to draft. So I have

1076
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:41,479
Speaker 5: him ranked tight end eight right now, and he's usually

1077
00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:43,799
Speaker 5: being drafted outside of the top ten, so he's he's

1078
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:45,200
Speaker 5: just been a guy. If I miss out on the

1079
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:47,960
Speaker 5: top three early on, I have no problem waiting to

1080
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:51,200
Speaker 5: them in the draft and take Hooper. You know, Derk

1081
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:53,319
Speaker 5: Hutter's always gotten the most out of his tight end,

1082
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:56,400
Speaker 5: and I think that Hooper could have a year four breakout.

1083
00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:59,600
Speaker 5: His career touchdown rate at seven point two is pretty

1084
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:02,080
Speaker 5: low for guy with his skill set on a high

1085
00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:04,439
Speaker 5: scoring offense like the Falcons, so I think that's where

1086
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:06,319
Speaker 5: he'll be able to have his breakout. Is you know,

1087
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:08,560
Speaker 5: if he scores eight or more touchdowns this year, I

1088
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:11,400
Speaker 5: think he's gonna steal the later later uns of this

1089
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:12,800
Speaker 5: this year's draft Sean.

1090
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:14,719
Speaker 3: I am with you on d D. I believe I

1091
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:19,440
Speaker 3: have him at wide receiver twenty three in the football.

1092
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:20,400
Speaker 4: Man.

1093
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:23,840
Speaker 3: All right, yeah, he's He's the guy where I'm playing

1094
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:27,120
Speaker 3: in the flag. I'm pretty optimistic on him this year. Brad.

1095
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:30,000
Speaker 3: The players you are staying away from, who are the

1096
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:32,799
Speaker 3: guys you just want absolutely no part of this year?

1097
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:34,440
Speaker 1: Well, let's start a quarterback for me.

1098
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:37,400
Speaker 2: I cannot invest the equity that is asked for a

1099
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:40,200
Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes. You look at a lot of the lines

1100
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:44,000
Speaker 2: according to you know, Sin City or Jersey on passing

1101
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:46,399
Speaker 2: touchdowns or Mahomes in the follow up from the fifty

1102
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:48,600
Speaker 2: TV campaign and they usually said at thirty seven and

1103
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:50,239
Speaker 2: a half, thirty six and a half. I've seen as

1104
00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:52,200
Speaker 2: low as thirty five and a half, So regression is

1105
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:55,040
Speaker 2: going to happen. He's kinna mighty spectacular. I'm not crapping

1106
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:56,880
Speaker 2: on the player by any stretch of the imagination or

1107
00:48:56,920 --> 00:48:59,960
Speaker 2: a situation. I just cannot mentally get over the herd

1108
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:02,359
Speaker 2: of sinking a third round pick or a second round

1109
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:04,480
Speaker 2: pick or some sicco's out there a late first round

1110
00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:07,560
Speaker 2: or in his services. Know I'm getting Aaron Rodgers or

1111
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:11,040
Speaker 2: Deshaun Watson or a Baker Mayfield some you know, forty

1112
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:13,839
Speaker 2: fifty sixty picks later. So that's one guy that I'm

1113
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:17,080
Speaker 2: baiting this year just based on his average draft position

1114
00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:21,360
Speaker 2: running back. It's Todd Gurley. Why he's got an arthritic knee.

1115
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:22,880
Speaker 1: For crying out loud, and.

1116
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:26,399
Speaker 2: I've said this time in and time again, I understand that,

1117
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:28,120
Speaker 2: you know Sean McBay is putting out there, well, we

1118
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:29,879
Speaker 2: collocked him in twenty one miles an hour and he's

1119
00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:31,280
Speaker 2: running a straight line in practice.

1120
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:34,080
Speaker 1: He looks great. It looks like vintage Todd Gurley.

1121
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:37,920
Speaker 2: It's all hogwash because they're trying to get Darryl Henderson

1122
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:41,160
Speaker 2: more work. Our own Charles Robinson, who was at RAMS

1123
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:43,880
Speaker 2: camp about two and a half weeks ago, reported straight

1124
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:46,160
Speaker 2: from the horse's mouth that mcbaate and the coaching staff

1125
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:48,960
Speaker 2: that they were hoping again they were hoping to get

1126
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:50,920
Speaker 2: Todd Gurley on the field for sixty five percent of

1127
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:53,880
Speaker 2: the snaps. That doesn't guarantee even when he's on the

1128
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:56,319
Speaker 2: field for sixty five percent the snaps, he's going to

1129
00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:58,800
Speaker 2: touch the rock. So I think Henderson's going to be

1130
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:01,680
Speaker 2: involved heavily. They're gonn to use more two running back formations,

1131
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:05,440
Speaker 2: which McVeigh has said publicly, Malcolm Brown's gonna be sprinkled

1132
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:07,799
Speaker 2: in and that thing could blot, it could flare up,

1133
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:10,120
Speaker 2: it could swell up on him at any time. There's

1134
00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:13,480
Speaker 2: just too much risk, despite the great situation to invest

1135
00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:14,759
Speaker 2: in him in round two.

1136
00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:15,479
Speaker 1: So I am.

1137
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:19,440
Speaker 2: Fading him in hard wide receiver. It's Calvin Ridley. You

1138
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:21,360
Speaker 2: know again, it's not a knocking to player. I like

1139
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:26,319
Speaker 2: the players. It's more of a derision of sustainability. And

1140
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:29,399
Speaker 2: I am, you know, pointing at what he accomplished last

1141
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:31,960
Speaker 2: season on a minimal target chairs right around fifteen point

1142
00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:34,040
Speaker 2: three percent scoring the ten touchdowns.

1143
00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:37,640
Speaker 1: Matt Ryan's passer rating was like one twenty four.

1144
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:41,239
Speaker 2: When targeting Ridley, It's got competition there for touches and

1145
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:44,880
Speaker 2: terms and targets from Julio Jones, Mohammed Sanu, Austin Hooper.

1146
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:47,200
Speaker 2: I think he just takes a step back. It's you know,

1147
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:49,960
Speaker 2: maybe like seven touchdowns and if he shades those shaves

1148
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:52,839
Speaker 2: those three off, it's not worth where you're getting him now,

1149
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:56,240
Speaker 2: like wide receiver twenty three, wide receiver twenty four. I'm

1150
00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:59,160
Speaker 2: just not sure he's going to deliver a profit at

1151
00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:01,120
Speaker 2: his average draft position then tied in.

1152
00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:03,400
Speaker 1: For me, it's just a big three in general.

1153
00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:06,279
Speaker 2: As I mentioned before, Kelsey Kittle Erch you can make

1154
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:09,640
Speaker 2: an argument for taking him at their respective price points currently,

1155
00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:12,520
Speaker 2: But for me, again, I'm just focusing on the next

1156
00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:14,680
Speaker 2: batch of tied ends who I think are better values.

1157
00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:17,160
Speaker 1: And I think one or two of those guys, whether

1158
00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:20,640
Speaker 1: it's Henry, whether it's Ingram, whether it's Howard, is going

1159
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:22,319
Speaker 1: to leap frog. What are the big three and we're

1160
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:25,360
Speaker 1: gonna be talking about them, maybe his round three picks next.

1161
00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:28,479
Speaker 3: Year, Raybond. Who are the guys you're looking to stay

1162
00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:30,120
Speaker 3: away from? So at quarterback?

1163
00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:33,479
Speaker 4: For me, it's Aaron Rodgers. Whatck was on that list

1164
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:35,400
Speaker 4: as well, Drew Brees. I just think some of these

1165
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:38,080
Speaker 4: household names. People are getting way too comfortable with those

1166
00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:40,160
Speaker 4: guys over the guys that they really should be taking.

1167
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:42,800
Speaker 4: There are guys like Baker Mayfield, a guy I forgot

1168
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:47,280
Speaker 4: to mention heavily invested in, you know, Rogers seven point

1169
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:49,640
Speaker 4: four or west Yard for attempt for four or five

1170
00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:50,000
Speaker 4: years now.

1171
00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:51,400
Speaker 1: They want him to get the ball out faster.

1172
00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:54,719
Speaker 4: That didn't exactly go well for Marcus mari Jota I

1173
00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:56,560
Speaker 4: don't know if it goes well for Aaron Rodgers or

1174
00:51:56,600 --> 00:51:59,239
Speaker 4: if he even changes the way he plays. And he's

1175
00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:03,719
Speaker 4: highly dependent on Davante Adams for his touchdowns, so I

1176
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:05,880
Speaker 4: think that's kind of a dangerous situation. He's also been

1177
00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:08,239
Speaker 4: known to be injury prone, so I don't like it

1178
00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:12,440
Speaker 4: there at at And then just any quarterback going I think,

1179
00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:17,280
Speaker 4: you know above adp especially before the double digit rounds,

1180
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:19,759
Speaker 4: whether that be a Matt Ryan or or you know,

1181
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:21,280
Speaker 4: sometimes it's a Russell Wilson.

1182
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:23,640
Speaker 1: Sometimes it's breeze, but you know, I just think you

1183
00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:24,080
Speaker 1: have to wait.

1184
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:26,120
Speaker 4: I want I want everyone else in my week to

1185
00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:28,680
Speaker 4: have drafted a quarterback almost all the time before I

1186
00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:30,560
Speaker 4: am diving in at that position.

1187
00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:32,400
Speaker 1: Running back for.

1188
00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:35,480
Speaker 4: Me, still, Darius Geist, I think he's just being drafted

1189
00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:37,600
Speaker 4: too high for for being in a committee. He's being

1190
00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:40,080
Speaker 4: drafted like he's going to be the clear leader of

1191
00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:42,080
Speaker 4: that backfield when I think, you know, the fact that

1192
00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:44,040
Speaker 4: Adrian Peterson was given the night off in that third

1193
00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:47,080
Speaker 4: preseason game shows you a lot. You know, guys did

1194
00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:49,719
Speaker 4: get a lot of work, look pretty solid. But they've

1195
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:51,480
Speaker 4: said that they want this to be a fifty to

1196
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:53,920
Speaker 4: fifty split sixty forty at the least, and in my

1197
00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:57,319
Speaker 4: Coaching Tendency's article, I kind of talked about how you

1198
00:52:57,320 --> 00:52:59,440
Speaker 4: know it's there's not a lot of upside there when

1199
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:03,320
Speaker 4: you kind of fact or in even an optimistic scenario

1200
00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:09,320
Speaker 4: for Geist's share of the of that backfield at wide receiver,

1201
00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:13,720
Speaker 4: you know there's I think the value at wide receiver

1202
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:15,680
Speaker 4: is kind of you know, you can kind of go

1203
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:17,719
Speaker 4: up and down that list and not really have to,

1204
00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:20,960
Speaker 4: you know, say, oh, this is a guy I'm clearly

1205
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:23,560
Speaker 4: clearly staying away from.

1206
00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:24,560
Speaker 1: I think the one guy.

1207
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:26,399
Speaker 4: For me is AJ Green. I think people are taking

1208
00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:27,719
Speaker 4: him way too. I think it's another one of those

1209
00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:29,520
Speaker 4: mother and Gordon situations where people are like, oh, you

1210
00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:31,280
Speaker 4: just have this like Asen the hole on the bench,

1211
00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:34,759
Speaker 4: but in reality, you're giving up, you know, fifteen game

1212
00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:36,440
Speaker 4: upside at a point in the draft where you can

1213
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:39,239
Speaker 4: still get comparable players that you know, you know, given

1214
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:42,200
Speaker 4: variants and all that whatnot, I think you can get

1215
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:44,960
Speaker 4: an AJ Green type season out of I think this

1216
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:46,880
Speaker 4: guy is kind of slowing down a little bit, and

1217
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:48,719
Speaker 4: it's not like he's starting in Week one where you

1218
00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:50,240
Speaker 4: can say, oh, he's gonna put up the same numbers

1219
00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:52,640
Speaker 4: as he did even last year. Because now he's starting,

1220
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:56,280
Speaker 4: he's already unhealthy, he's starting in a new offense without

1221
00:53:56,360 --> 00:53:58,439
Speaker 4: much time to kind of get get on the same

1222
00:53:58,440 --> 00:54:00,439
Speaker 4: page with with Andy Dalton and some of those guys,

1223
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:02,400
Speaker 4: so it could be a slower start than usual. So

1224
00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:04,520
Speaker 4: I don't think he's really worth a pick. I have

1225
00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:06,440
Speaker 4: him as my wide receiver forty five. I think that's

1226
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:08,600
Speaker 4: where he should go. I think I think people are

1227
00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:12,000
Speaker 4: taking him too high and at tight end. I really

1228
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:15,520
Speaker 4: I just think I think it's anyone outside of the top,

1229
00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:19,120
Speaker 4: you know, eleven after that Hooper pick, I think it's

1230
00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:20,920
Speaker 4: it's it kind of gets it kind of gets cloudy

1231
00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:22,239
Speaker 4: from me. I don't really want much to do with

1232
00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:24,520
Speaker 4: any of those guys as my te one, so I'm

1233
00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:29,080
Speaker 4: kind of really focused on getting guys before Hooper is gone.

1234
00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:33,040
Speaker 3: Raymond, I hear you, But Mark Andrews is offended by

1235
00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:34,680
Speaker 3: what you just said. I'm just gonna let you know

1236
00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:37,920
Speaker 3: that corner. Who do you have here as the players

1237
00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:39,000
Speaker 3: you are staying away from?

1238
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:42,719
Speaker 5: So for me, it's it's mostly all based on ADPN,

1239
00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:46,160
Speaker 5: just my overall draft plan. But at quarterback, Drew Brees

1240
00:54:46,200 --> 00:54:50,200
Speaker 5: at QB seven is nuts. I would never taken that early.

1241
00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:52,400
Speaker 5: I think, you know, it's obviously just based on namesake,

1242
00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:54,399
Speaker 5: but you know, the Saints don't need him to throw

1243
00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:57,200
Speaker 5: for five thousand yards anymore. They have much stronger defense.

1244
00:54:57,600 --> 00:54:59,920
Speaker 5: So his weekly floor is actually a lot lower than

1245
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:02,160
Speaker 5: people realize. He had seven games last year where he

1246
00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:04,879
Speaker 5: threw less than two hundred and twenty yards. He's too

1247
00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:06,919
Speaker 5: much of a hot cold quarterback for me. I don't

1248
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:09,600
Speaker 5: want that volatility, especially if I'm taking him early. You're

1249
00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:12,280
Speaker 5: kind of you want guys like Matt Ryan or Baker

1250
00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:14,839
Speaker 5: Mayfield in that range that are going to give you

1251
00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:17,839
Speaker 5: solid QB one numbers most weeks, and just Breeze has

1252
00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:20,240
Speaker 5: that his floor is way too low to be taking

1253
00:55:20,239 --> 00:55:24,239
Speaker 5: that early. And then at running back Damian Williams, although

1254
00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:28,040
Speaker 5: it's getting scarier saying that after his great game the

1255
00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:30,480
Speaker 5: other day, but I still think that, you know, at

1256
00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:32,960
Speaker 5: the end of round two, he just doesn't fit in

1257
00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:35,719
Speaker 5: my draft plan. That's you typically already have one of

1258
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:38,640
Speaker 5: the top five running backs, so you're gonna have to

1259
00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:40,680
Speaker 5: take them, you know, either at the round end of

1260
00:55:40,760 --> 00:55:42,960
Speaker 5: round two or early round three. And I just think

1261
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:46,000
Speaker 5: that's it's critical to take two receivers there, so he's

1262
00:55:46,239 --> 00:55:48,399
Speaker 5: he just doesn't fit my draft plan. I still think

1263
00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:51,000
Speaker 5: he has one of the lower floors in the running

1264
00:55:51,040 --> 00:55:54,440
Speaker 5: backs in that range, and then at wide receiver.

1265
00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:56,040
Speaker 3: Raybon mentioned it.

1266
00:55:56,040 --> 00:55:58,240
Speaker 5: It's it's really hard to like pick one ride receiver

1267
00:55:58,280 --> 00:56:01,240
Speaker 5: and say you're fading them. But I think Corey Davis

1268
00:56:01,239 --> 00:56:03,719
Speaker 5: just where he's going doesn't make sense to me. I

1269
00:56:03,719 --> 00:56:05,439
Speaker 5: think in that range you kind of want a guy

1270
00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:08,600
Speaker 5: with a ton of upside, and I know athletically he does.

1271
00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:11,000
Speaker 5: He's one of the most talented young receivers. But just

1272
00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:13,320
Speaker 5: that offense, you know, you have a bunch of pass

1273
00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:16,040
Speaker 5: catchers that are splitting two hundred passing yards a game.

1274
00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:18,880
Speaker 5: It's not really a passing offense I want to invest in.

1275
00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:21,399
Speaker 5: So I think he's he's sort of a you know,

1276
00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:24,279
Speaker 5: a lower ceiling, lower floor kind of guy, and I

1277
00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:26,160
Speaker 5: think in that range, you just you might as well

1278
00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:29,120
Speaker 5: invest in guys like Mike Williams, Robbie Anderson, he the

1279
00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:31,880
Speaker 5: U Westbrook, Christian Kirk just take some chances in that range.

1280
00:56:32,560 --> 00:56:35,479
Speaker 5: I think just settling for Corey Davis in that range

1281
00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:37,319
Speaker 5: is something that I'm not That's not part of my

1282
00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:39,800
Speaker 5: draft plan. So I guess he's a guy I'm getting

1283
00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:42,480
Speaker 5: almost no shares of because of it. And then at

1284
00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:46,759
Speaker 5: tight end Jared Cook simply because I have Austin Hooper

1285
00:56:46,840 --> 00:56:49,880
Speaker 5: ranked above him, and he goes way later. So Cook's

1286
00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:51,359
Speaker 5: just a guy I'm not reaching for.

1287
00:56:51,719 --> 00:56:51,959
Speaker 1: Again.

1288
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:54,080
Speaker 5: I mentioned the Saints passing offense is going to be

1289
00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:57,680
Speaker 5: very high ceiling, low floor already, and Jared Cook has

1290
00:56:57,719 --> 00:57:01,879
Speaker 5: sort of been the the premiere high ceiling, low floor

1291
00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:04,160
Speaker 5: tight end, so I think this year is gonna be amplified.

1292
00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:05,920
Speaker 5: So I think we're going to We're going to see

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Speaker 5: some great games out of Jared Cook, and we're going

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Speaker 5: to see a lot of dud So I'm passing up

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Speaker 5: on him in hopes of just getting Austin Hooper a

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Speaker 5: little bit later, who have ranked higher than him.

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Speaker 3: All Right, this has been a beefy episode, Brad, I

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Speaker 3: have two more questions for you. If you end up

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Speaker 3: being incredibly wrong about a player, who do you think

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Speaker 3: that is going to be? And then who is the

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Speaker 3: one player you are most convinced will be a league

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Speaker 3: winner this year?

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Speaker 1: Oh? Well, the league winners obvious. It's David Montgomery.

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Speaker 2: I'm the CEO of Team Lamos and the Dave Montgomery

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Speaker 2: fan club. So really it answers both questions, right, because

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Speaker 2: there are a possible range of outcomes for Montgomery. I'm

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Speaker 2: convinced in my own demented brain that Matt Nagy is

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Speaker 2: going to run him early and often, and he's going

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Speaker 2: to get at least seventeen touches at one hundred plus

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Speaker 2: yards and a score on the opening night of the

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Speaker 2: NFL season against the Green Bay Packers.

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Speaker 1: But I could be terribly, horribly wrong.

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Speaker 2: So really reapplies to both, like I'm gonna have egg

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Speaker 2: on my face if he doesn't live up to the hype,

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Speaker 2: but if he does, he's definitely gonna be a league winner.

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Speaker 3: All right, Brad? What sports content should people check out?

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Speaker 3: At Yahoo?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 1: We had all kinds of stuff. We got our fantasy

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Speaker 1: football draft kit.

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Speaker 2: Go to sports dot Yahoo dot com slash fantasy.

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Speaker 1: It's free.

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Speaker 2: We got printable and downloadable PDF versions of our cheat

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Speaker 2: sheets that were updating constantly, So if you got drafts

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Speaker 2: heading up until and through the Labor Day weekend, we

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Speaker 2: got you taken care of. There just a plethora of

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Speaker 2: content from my extraordinary colleagues and Adie Barons and Scott

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Speaker 2: Pianowski the Yahoo Fantasy Football Podcast. You want to subscribe

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Speaker 2: to that as well, and of course Fantasy Football Live.

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Speaker 1: We're coming back.

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Speaker 2: I think it's like season fourteen believe it or not,

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Speaker 2: starting September eighth on Yahoo sports dot com at eleven

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Speaker 2: thirty am Eastern eight thirty am Pacific time. And yes,

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Speaker 2: my cal Ripken streak of shows continues. Will it last

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Speaker 2: this year? You want to tune in and find out?

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Speaker 3: All right? Be sure to check out all that content

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Speaker 3: and follow Brad on Twitter at Yahoo Noise. You can

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Speaker 3: follow Sean, Chris and me in the Action Network app

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Speaker 3: at the Underscore Odds maker Chris Raybond and Matt f

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Speaker 3: the Oracle use the app to get real time odds

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Speaker 3: and tracker bets for free. That is going to do

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Speaker 3: it for this episode of the Action Network podcast. Please

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Speaker 3: subscribe to and rate and review the show on Apple

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Speaker 3: Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. See you again

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Speaker 3: next episode