WEBVTT - CHARLES KELLEY: Songs Of A New Moon 0:00:04.400 --> 0:00:08.560 Have you been having a most marvelous may? Sure hope 0:00:08.600 --> 0:00:11.840 the answer is yes. It seemed pretty fleeting to me, 0:00:12.240 --> 0:00:16.600 blossoming one day and poof, like petals falling from a 0:00:16.640 --> 0:00:20.680 stem gone. The next spring will soon be in our 0:00:20.720 --> 0:00:23.239 rear view mirror. Kids are going to be out of school. 0:00:23.520 --> 0:00:28.479 I've got five minor children living at home now, three 0:00:28.480 --> 0:00:31.400 of my grandkids and two of my kids. And boy 0:00:31.520 --> 0:00:34.800 does the fun times begin when the school bell closes. 0:00:35.560 --> 0:00:39.320 Here's something else to look forward to besides some moares 0:00:39.600 --> 0:00:43.880 and campfires. More new music, fun music, feel good music, 0:00:44.440 --> 0:00:47.800 eighties tide music. And you know what they say about 0:00:47.840 --> 0:00:52.040 the eighties music, It sure gets the house clean faster 0:00:52.280 --> 0:00:56.400 when you're listening to that. Charles Kelly is most known 0:00:56.440 --> 0:01:02.279 for his vocals, his musicianship, and his genuine charisma as 0:01:02.480 --> 0:01:05.480 one third of the seven time Grammy Award winning group 0:01:05.560 --> 0:01:12.039 Lady A. Built around rich vocal harmonies, vivid emotional writing, 0:01:12.720 --> 0:01:17.319 and a smooth fusion of country rock and pop, Lady 0:01:17.400 --> 0:01:22.360 A has long been a model of mainstream success. As 0:01:22.400 --> 0:01:26.440 a country radio staple, the trio has amassed eleven number 0:01:26.520 --> 0:01:32.240 one hits and over nine billion digital streams. Charles has 0:01:32.280 --> 0:01:36.400 been a chart topping songwriter on his own, He's copen 0:01:36.520 --> 0:01:41.200 favorites for Luke, Brian, Miranda, Lambert, Brett Young and Moore. 0:01:42.080 --> 0:01:46.560 His twenty sixteen solo debut, The Driver, led to another 0:01:46.640 --> 0:01:51.480 Grammy nomination for the title track The Driver. Now, Charles 0:01:51.560 --> 0:01:56.400 finds himself stepping boldly into his second solo album, Songs 0:01:56.480 --> 0:02:00.880 for a New Moon, as he begins an age of fearless, 0:02:01.160 --> 0:02:06.880 fresh perspective both musically and in his life, embracing the lush, 0:02:07.240 --> 0:02:12.000 hyper saturated luxury of his beloved eighties pop Songs for 0:02:12.040 --> 0:02:14.720 a New Moon, out June twenty fifth, has a full 0:02:14.760 --> 0:02:18.959 on eighties sound without, as Charles calls it, any country insurance. 0:02:19.760 --> 0:02:22.520 It's feel good music for a time when we need 0:02:22.720 --> 0:02:27.200 feel good music. We need feel good everything. Dropping into 0:02:27.240 --> 0:02:30.200 chat with us today about his forthcoming solo album is 0:02:30.400 --> 0:02:33.800 Charles Kelly. 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Use code love twenty four for ten percent 0:04:16.279 --> 0:04:21.800 off your order that Sherry's Hazel Cream and Love twenty four. 0:04:22.880 --> 0:04:25.239 All right, let's jump into this. I'm gonna say hello 0:04:25.640 --> 0:04:30.839 to Charles Kelly, who is known as a third of 0:04:31.040 --> 0:04:34.080 Lady A. But now for the second time, you've got 0:04:34.120 --> 0:04:38.279 a solo project. We're going to talk about, and I 0:04:38.360 --> 0:04:41.440 want to talk about the music because it's I hear 0:04:41.520 --> 0:04:45.159 got this great eighties vibe which is almost as good 0:04:46.320 --> 0:04:54.240 almost as the seventies. But eighties are my second that's 0:04:54.320 --> 0:04:59.920 my second favorite era of music. Not the shoulder pads. 0:05:00.400 --> 0:05:04.000 It was the shoulder pads when I was, you know, 0:05:04.240 --> 0:05:07.719 young in the eighties and really really skinny. The shoulder 0:05:07.760 --> 0:05:12.960 pads were rocking. Now Charles, I just look like a linebacker. 0:05:13.480 --> 0:05:16.840 It's all coming back though, if you noticed, especially like 0:05:17.080 --> 0:05:19.400 you know, I'm watching all the men's cloth clothing now 0:05:19.440 --> 0:05:22.400 it's like the tight the tight fit is out and 0:05:22.440 --> 0:05:24.839 it's all about kind of a you know, baggy or 0:05:24.960 --> 0:05:25.719 kind of flowy. 0:05:26.160 --> 0:05:31.760 When they bring back the parachute pants, they're coming, they're coming, 0:05:32.240 --> 0:05:36.400 and the and the multi colored jogger suits out of that, yeah, 0:05:36.680 --> 0:05:41.360 look like tent material, Like you could go camping in 0:05:41.400 --> 0:05:47.080 your jogging trousers. So tell us, uh, tell us about 0:05:47.080 --> 0:05:49.000 the music, and then I want to talk about you, 0:05:50.320 --> 0:05:53.000 Charles Kelly and the new outlook you have on life, 0:05:53.000 --> 0:05:57.200 because I was stalking you interviews and I was like, 0:05:57.279 --> 0:05:58.800 this is going to be awesome. 0:06:00.040 --> 0:06:02.200 Well it's funn you know. I mean, my first solo 0:06:02.279 --> 0:06:04.120 record was about eight or nine years ago, and it 0:06:04.160 --> 0:06:07.240 was definitely much more of a seventies flair, you know. 0:06:07.520 --> 0:06:09.320 I mean I grew up playing in cover bands ever 0:06:09.320 --> 0:06:12.799 since I was twelve years old. I played drums and sang, 0:06:12.880 --> 0:06:14.960 and we used to do a couple of Joe Cocker songs. 0:06:15.040 --> 0:06:17.359 We would, you know, you'd sing Garth Brooks, you turn around, 0:06:17.360 --> 0:06:20.080 sang line of Richie, you turn around, sang La Zeppelin. 0:06:20.520 --> 0:06:22.840 So I have, you know, a pretty wide range of influences, 0:06:22.960 --> 0:06:23.159 you know. 0:06:23.240 --> 0:06:25.400 I used to play a song that Lionel Richie did 0:06:25.440 --> 0:06:26.760 with Kenny Rogers. 0:06:27.320 --> 0:06:32.359 Oh that's the well it hadn been. What was the 0:06:32.400 --> 0:06:33.800 one that he did that that they both did a 0:06:33.880 --> 0:06:34.320 version of. 0:06:34.760 --> 0:06:36.800 Well they did a version together and. 0:06:36.800 --> 0:06:37.760 Back together as well. 0:06:37.960 --> 0:06:44.040 Yeah. Yeah, and everybody's like Lionel Richie dancing on the ceiling, 0:06:44.320 --> 0:06:48.880 mister disco king, you know, teaming up with Kenny Rogers. 0:06:48.880 --> 0:06:50.039 But it worked. 0:06:50.880 --> 0:06:53.960 What was that? I'm going really blank on that line 0:06:54.000 --> 0:06:56.920 of Richie wrote for Kenny and then they both did 0:06:56.920 --> 0:06:59.120 a version of it. I'll think of it at some point. 0:06:59.440 --> 0:07:03.800 It'll pop into my metapausal head, you know, while I'm 0:07:03.839 --> 0:07:05.200 bathing the kids or something. 0:07:05.680 --> 0:07:08.560 I know, I know, but you know, so it's funny though, 0:07:08.600 --> 0:07:10.520 you know, when you talk about seventies and eighties, those 0:07:10.560 --> 0:07:14.160 are probably my two favorite you know, kind of decades 0:07:14.200 --> 0:07:16.040 of music as well. And so, you know, with this 0:07:16.160 --> 0:07:18.840 second record, it's been you know, about eight or nine 0:07:18.880 --> 0:07:21.120 years after the first time I did a solo record. 0:07:21.240 --> 0:07:24.400 And I don't think I initially had set out to 0:07:24.440 --> 0:07:26.400 make an eighties record. It just kind of, you know, 0:07:26.480 --> 0:07:28.720 an eighties inspired record. It kind of just came about. 0:07:28.760 --> 0:07:33.880 I started writing, you know, for this project within about 0:07:34.000 --> 0:07:37.080 six months a year of kind of you know, getting 0:07:37.120 --> 0:07:40.480 sober and and you know, coming out of a little 0:07:40.520 --> 0:07:44.120 month and you know, this this rehabilitation place I went to, 0:07:44.400 --> 0:07:47.720 you know, for my alcoholism, and this was about getting 0:07:47.720 --> 0:07:51.320 close to three years ago now, and I don't know, 0:07:51.400 --> 0:07:54.480 I just came. I came at this an approached It 0:07:54.520 --> 0:07:58.320 was such a different I think lyrical perspective, you know, 0:07:58.480 --> 0:08:02.200 of kind of hope, you know, forgiving myself and just 0:08:02.480 --> 0:08:05.000 moving forward and kind of holding on to, you know, 0:08:05.040 --> 0:08:07.160 what matters the most in my life, and so all 0:08:07.200 --> 0:08:09.560 that's kind of in this music. I think it's you know, 0:08:09.600 --> 0:08:12.679 it's meant to be a very feel good, inspiring record. 0:08:12.760 --> 0:08:15.480 You know, there's a couple more I think deeper songs 0:08:15.480 --> 0:08:17.680 on it, but for the most part, it's just just 0:08:17.720 --> 0:08:20.760 a really feel good record from top to bottom. And 0:08:21.840 --> 0:08:24.680 you know, I kind of just naturally started writing to 0:08:24.800 --> 0:08:28.640 these kind of eighties inspired musical beds, and that's just 0:08:28.760 --> 0:08:31.360 kind of I started getting really excited about the sound 0:08:31.400 --> 0:08:34.040 of it. I said, I have no idea if this 0:08:34.160 --> 0:08:36.040 is going to be a new direction for Lady A 0:08:36.320 --> 0:08:39.640 or what, but I just love it. And and you know, 0:08:39.640 --> 0:08:41.240 the more I just kept writing for it, I was like, 0:08:41.320 --> 0:08:43.520 all right, you know, it's been close to a decade 0:08:43.640 --> 0:08:45.640 since I've done another solo record. I want to do this, 0:08:45.840 --> 0:08:47.640 and you know that I think the time we have 0:08:47.640 --> 0:08:50.720 it two worked out great. You know, Hillary's she's having 0:08:50.760 --> 0:08:54.839 her fourth and her fourth little girl here coming in July, 0:08:55.760 --> 0:08:57.599 and so you know, I was like, all right, I 0:08:57.720 --> 0:08:59.400 want to do this. I'm going to kind of you know, 0:08:59.440 --> 0:09:01.440 we're taking a time off with the band. I was like, 0:09:01.480 --> 0:09:02.880 I'm going to kind of focus on this for a 0:09:02.920 --> 0:09:06.800 little bit. And the irony is, through this process, we 0:09:06.880 --> 0:09:08.720 found out my wife and I, you know, we're in 0:09:08.760 --> 0:09:12.480 our forties, that we were having our second kids. So 0:09:12.480 --> 0:09:14.160 so it's kind of crazy, a lot of a lot 0:09:14.160 --> 0:09:15.800 of a lot of change happening over here in the 0:09:15.880 --> 0:09:17.079 Kelly household. 0:09:17.520 --> 0:09:19.920 Congratulations, thank you. 0:09:19.920 --> 0:09:22.080 You know. Honestly, it wasn't that we didn't think we could, 0:09:22.520 --> 0:09:24.760 you know, handle it. We always kind of prayed for 0:09:24.800 --> 0:09:27.400 another child, but it was we just didn't think it 0:09:27.480 --> 0:09:28.200 was going to happen. 0:09:28.320 --> 0:09:30.720 You know, God said, surprise, I. 0:09:30.679 --> 0:09:33.360 Know, because it was like we had our little boy, 0:09:33.440 --> 0:09:36.640 Ward and he's nine, and so you know, for the 0:09:36.640 --> 0:09:38.880 past like four or five years, we were just like, 0:09:39.040 --> 0:09:41.320 I guess, you know, it took. It was so hard 0:09:41.440 --> 0:09:44.160 having him that we were like, it's there's it just 0:09:44.240 --> 0:09:46.439 must not be in the cards. And then I think 0:09:46.440 --> 0:09:49.040 there's something about to you know, even just with my 0:09:49.160 --> 0:09:52.680 journey and my wife and I throughout this, I think 0:09:52.720 --> 0:09:57.360 have just settled into life and didn't try to force 0:09:57.440 --> 0:10:00.000 things anymore. And it's amazing how kind of God popped 0:10:00.080 --> 0:10:02.800 sin and it's like, all right, now you're now you're ready. 0:10:02.800 --> 0:10:05.440 Now you're in a healthy spot and prepared and uh 0:10:06.000 --> 0:10:08.920 and you know, it's just such a such a cool 0:10:08.960 --> 0:10:12.680 little blessing and new new adventure for us. My son 0:10:12.960 --> 0:10:14.720 is through the roof. I've never seen a kid so 0:10:14.800 --> 0:10:17.560 excited in his life. I mean, he cannot wait for this, 0:10:17.559 --> 0:10:19.520 this baby to arrive. And we found out it's going 0:10:19.600 --> 0:10:21.640 to be another little boy, so he's gonna have a 0:10:21.640 --> 0:10:22.120 little brother. 0:10:22.440 --> 0:10:25.000 All right. So if I am, I'm gonna just throw 0:10:25.040 --> 0:10:28.120 some scenarios at you, and you're gonna tell me which 0:10:28.160 --> 0:10:32.880 cut off this new album. I'm gonna have to crank up? Okay, 0:10:33.320 --> 0:10:35.760 oh okay. So I got a creak on my property. 0:10:36.240 --> 0:10:40.080 It's got crowdads, it's got rocks, it's got everything heavenly 0:10:40.240 --> 0:10:42.240 and I got five kids at home, so you know 0:10:42.280 --> 0:10:46.640 where we're going to be this summer. What what cut 0:10:46.880 --> 0:10:49.920 off the new album? Charles and Mike cranking while the 0:10:50.000 --> 0:10:51.720 kids are splashing each other in the creek. 0:10:52.480 --> 0:10:54.720 I'm not going to say it just because it's my single, 0:10:54.760 --> 0:10:57.080 but my favorite song off the record, and what really 0:10:57.160 --> 0:11:00.360 kickstarted this is a song called Can't Lose You and 0:11:00.400 --> 0:11:04.480 it's just, uh, you know, it's it's about kind of 0:11:04.520 --> 0:11:06.640 putting in perspective all the things in your life that 0:11:06.679 --> 0:11:09.200 you you know that you could do without the and 0:11:09.280 --> 0:11:11.200 the one thing that you know you can't lose, and 0:11:11.240 --> 0:11:13.559 that's I think our connection and our love for our 0:11:13.559 --> 0:11:18.199 family and you know, spirituality whatever whatever that is for you. 0:11:18.280 --> 0:11:20.199 And that's that's what that song is about. The other 0:11:20.200 --> 0:11:21.680 one I was going to say was Run. That's a 0:11:21.720 --> 0:11:24.800 really good, feel good you know, it's about kind of 0:11:24.840 --> 0:11:27.920 wanting to kind of get out there and and travel 0:11:27.960 --> 0:11:31.680 the world and and and you know, chase down live. 0:11:31.880 --> 0:11:33.840 Okay, Well, I was to stop right there because my 0:11:33.920 --> 0:11:37.440 next scenario is my twenty one year old daughter is 0:11:37.480 --> 0:11:41.280 in a travel phase, which I'm just so proud of. 0:11:41.679 --> 0:11:44.400 She's working, working, working, working, working, and then she takes 0:11:44.400 --> 0:11:46.320 the money she makes because you know, she lives at 0:11:46.320 --> 0:11:48.800 home and she goes and she travels. 0:11:48.960 --> 0:11:52.480 So that's Run. There's a line in there saying I 0:11:52.480 --> 0:11:54.560 want to fill your cup of wonder luss till the 0:11:54.640 --> 0:11:57.480 end of days. You know, we can we can dance 0:11:57.520 --> 0:11:59.920 on the streets or on the cobblestones in the streets. 0:12:00.080 --> 0:12:03.400 Sancho pe. I mean, it's a very go out see 0:12:03.400 --> 0:12:06.920 the World travel song. So I'm putting run for that scenario. 0:12:07.160 --> 0:12:11.160 Can't lose you for the hanging out, you know, Memorial 0:12:11.240 --> 0:12:13.520 Day weekend scenario, that's the creak. 0:12:13.559 --> 0:12:19.120 Okay, last scenario my oldest daughter who's still at home. 0:12:19.520 --> 0:12:25.600 She has the most phenomenal group of friends I have 0:12:25.760 --> 0:12:29.600 ever met in my life, outside of my circle of 0:12:29.640 --> 0:12:31.920 friends in high school. Because I'm still friends with them, 0:12:32.520 --> 0:12:36.800 phenomenal young people like like I could, I could write 0:12:36.800 --> 0:12:39.480 a book about each one and the trials they've been through. 0:12:39.520 --> 0:12:43.680 But their character for fifteen sixteen seventeen year olds blows 0:12:43.720 --> 0:12:44.160 my mind. 0:12:44.880 --> 0:12:45.520 That's awesome. 0:12:45.640 --> 0:12:49.480 So scenario for her sitting around the campfire in our 0:12:49.520 --> 0:12:52.160 backyard with her four or five besties. 0:12:53.120 --> 0:12:56.480 Hmmm, all right, I'm gonna throw a monkey wrench. I 0:12:56.559 --> 0:12:59.439 did two covers on this record. One of them is 0:12:59.440 --> 0:13:02.600 a killer, but the other one I did Cindy Lauper's 0:13:02.600 --> 0:13:07.680 Time after Time. Ah Okay, this song. When I listen 0:13:07.760 --> 0:13:10.280 to this song, I did it for my boy. I 0:13:10.320 --> 0:13:13.400 hear this like you know, if you're lost, you will 0:13:13.400 --> 0:13:15.800 find me time after time. It's got this kind of 0:13:15.840 --> 0:13:17.880 like I'm always going to be there when you need 0:13:17.960 --> 0:13:20.679 me type of feel you know. I know she kind 0:13:20.679 --> 0:13:23.520 of wrote this from like more of a heartbroke broken, 0:13:24.280 --> 0:13:26.600 you know, relationship standpoint. But when I hear this song, 0:13:26.679 --> 0:13:28.360 I think that's what the beauty of music, you know, 0:13:28.480 --> 0:13:31.360 like we can we can write our own story into 0:13:31.480 --> 0:13:33.680 into lyrics. I mean, I can't tell you how many 0:13:33.679 --> 0:13:37.000 people would like with Lady A's need you now have said, 0:13:37.080 --> 0:13:39.680 Like we've even had someone say they walk they like 0:13:39.760 --> 0:13:41.840 played that for their wedding song. I said, you realize 0:13:41.880 --> 0:13:45.000 this is like a you know, a kind of love 0:13:45.080 --> 0:13:48.160 lost booty call song in a way. But but everyone 0:13:48.200 --> 0:13:50.480 puts their story. But for me, time after time when 0:13:50.520 --> 0:13:54.520 I listen to that song, it fits this like friendship. 0:13:54.559 --> 0:13:58.040 I will be with you, you know, throughout whatever you like. 0:13:58.320 --> 0:14:00.520 I'm always there. I'm only a phone call a type 0:14:00.520 --> 0:14:01.120 of scenario. 0:14:02.960 --> 0:14:06.360 Wow. So basically you've given us the soundtrack for our 0:14:06.400 --> 0:14:07.800 whole summer for everybody. 0:14:09.200 --> 0:14:11.560 Hey, we want to make you kind of feel feel 0:14:11.600 --> 0:14:14.680 whether it's feel good, feel nostalgic, I mean, the whole. 0:14:14.720 --> 0:14:18.720 The whole record, in my opinion is it is unapologetically 0:14:18.720 --> 0:14:22.720 pulling from so many different sounds and influences and songs 0:14:23.880 --> 0:14:26.920 that I grew up loving you know, from this specific 0:14:27.120 --> 0:14:30.080 decade of music, and uh that you know, Cindy Lauper 0:14:30.240 --> 0:14:32.960 like to me that song just it is probably one 0:14:32.960 --> 0:14:36.640 of the most perfectly written songs of all time. And 0:14:36.880 --> 0:14:38.920 you know, we were talking about what cover song to do. 0:14:39.640 --> 0:14:41.120 You know, I said, I want to do a female 0:14:41.160 --> 0:14:44.080 song because I don't know to have that, you know, 0:14:44.280 --> 0:14:46.680 a male perspective and male voice on a song that 0:14:46.760 --> 0:14:49.600 you know, you kind of have become familiar with from 0:14:49.600 --> 0:14:50.360 a female and. 0:14:52.000 --> 0:14:54.840 Just not just become familiar with. That's kind of an anthem. 0:14:55.080 --> 0:14:57.240 Oh, it's unbelievable. It's one of the It really is 0:14:57.280 --> 0:15:00.320 one of the greatest songs ever written. And you it's 0:15:00.320 --> 0:15:03.520 so cool too that an artist like Cindy Lapper, who 0:15:03.560 --> 0:15:05.880 has given us such fun music. You know, girls just 0:15:05.880 --> 0:15:08.240 want to have fun, then all of a sudden throws 0:15:08.280 --> 0:15:11.760 out at you one of the biggest heart wrenching, perfectly 0:15:11.760 --> 0:15:14.320 written ballads of all time. So it shows, you know, 0:15:14.640 --> 0:15:16.280 pretty big testament to her talent. 0:15:17.040 --> 0:15:19.600 She's a hot ticket too. She came and saw me. 0:15:19.680 --> 0:15:22.720 I do this appearance every year in New York. I 0:15:22.800 --> 0:15:26.920 do skating in the park in December and then I 0:15:27.040 --> 0:15:30.160 do Broadway and Bryant Park in the summer, and she 0:15:30.200 --> 0:15:32.680 came to she came to just she heard that I 0:15:32.760 --> 0:15:35.000 was in town, and she lived near the park, and 0:15:35.120 --> 0:15:37.800 she's put her coat on and grabbed her man and 0:15:37.960 --> 0:15:41.640 came down to hang out skating in Central Park with me. 0:15:42.560 --> 0:15:45.360 And you see her, you know, on TV or on 0:15:45.440 --> 0:15:48.120 the shows, and she's got the makeup and the colorful hair, 0:15:49.120 --> 0:15:55.200 but in real life she is darling. Yeah, and her love, 0:15:55.360 --> 0:16:01.320 her energy, her kindness pours out of her. It was, 0:16:01.160 --> 0:16:03.000 it was. It was a blessing to my heart. 0:16:03.440 --> 0:16:04.160 It's so cool. 0:16:15.280 --> 0:16:19.920 So now I want to talk about your sober journey 0:16:20.280 --> 0:16:26.160 because this is something that I got into alan on 0:16:26.400 --> 0:16:29.240 the support group for or those of us who loved 0:16:29.240 --> 0:16:33.120 those of you that love alcohol over thirty years ago, 0:16:34.000 --> 0:16:39.240 four whiles ago, quite by accident. Actually it was on 0:16:39.320 --> 0:16:42.720 purpose by God. But I was so resistant to it. 0:16:42.840 --> 0:16:46.680 I went to a few meetings and I was like, 0:16:46.720 --> 0:16:48.560 I don't want to hear this. I just want somebody 0:16:48.600 --> 0:16:52.400 to tell me how to make him stop drinking. Is 0:16:52.720 --> 0:16:55.560 not helping. This is not like you're supposed to give 0:16:55.600 --> 0:16:58.440 me twelve steps how to make him stop. 0:16:59.480 --> 0:17:01.520 Or you're probably like, it's not my like, I'm not 0:17:01.600 --> 0:17:03.560 the one with a problem too. I know That's how 0:17:03.560 --> 0:17:06.520 my wife felt in the initial you know, journey of 0:17:06.560 --> 0:17:07.160 it as well. 0:17:07.320 --> 0:17:09.640 Well, of course I did. And then somebody pointed out, yeah, 0:17:09.680 --> 0:17:13.200 but this is not the first Yeah, and not the second, 0:17:14.320 --> 0:17:16.760 not even the third time You've decided to give your 0:17:16.800 --> 0:17:21.000 heart to somebody who is addicted to chemicals, Delilah, So 0:17:21.080 --> 0:17:25.520 who is the problem here? When I heard you and 0:17:25.680 --> 0:17:28.800 some of the interviews that I stopped talking about, like 0:17:28.920 --> 0:17:32.080 this new awareness you've got and how you didn't have 0:17:32.119 --> 0:17:37.360 to lose everything to get to recovery, I was like, oh, man, 0:17:38.880 --> 0:17:42.239 share this a lot, please, Charles, and let people know 0:17:42.359 --> 0:17:46.600 that you don't need to pickle your brain to have fun. 0:17:47.840 --> 0:17:50.520 Yeah. Yeah, I mean, you know, speaking of the Alan, 0:17:50.720 --> 0:17:52.520 my wife is really involved with that as well. You know, 0:17:52.560 --> 0:17:55.240 I mean I think she realized because in the beginning, 0:17:55.280 --> 0:17:57.280 you know, she was I remember when she came out 0:17:57.359 --> 0:18:01.800 for the family week, you know the place in Utah, 0:18:02.040 --> 0:18:04.560 you know, this recovery place, and she came out you know, 0:18:04.640 --> 0:18:07.040 that last week, and I remember she had told me 0:18:07.119 --> 0:18:09.480 later that, you know, at first, when they said, hey, 0:18:09.520 --> 0:18:10.920 you know you're going to have to do work too, 0:18:10.960 --> 0:18:13.840 it was like a little bit like resentful, like wait, 0:18:13.960 --> 0:18:15.800 I'm not the one that you know has put us 0:18:15.800 --> 0:18:18.040 in this position, but you know, as you know, it's 0:18:18.040 --> 0:18:21.439 just it's a family disease. It affects everybody, and me wife, 0:18:21.800 --> 0:18:24.760 my wife was the one that probably was affected hands 0:18:24.760 --> 0:18:28.119 down the most. Secondly, I would say, you know, my bandmates, 0:18:28.280 --> 0:18:30.920 you know, And for me, it just was a progressive thing. 0:18:30.960 --> 0:18:33.200 I think, being on the road and then you get 0:18:33.200 --> 0:18:35.800 off the road and you're kind of trying to chase 0:18:35.840 --> 0:18:38.159 that same kind of feeling and high when you're you know, 0:18:38.840 --> 0:18:40.959 you're off and your board, and I think it was 0:18:41.080 --> 0:18:43.399 just it became this thing that kind of gets a 0:18:43.440 --> 0:18:44.880 hold of you, you know, and it got a hold 0:18:44.920 --> 0:18:47.600 of me, and you know, I was really fortunate enough, 0:18:49.240 --> 0:18:52.000 you know, have so many people around me to encourage me. 0:18:52.080 --> 0:18:56.560 And after you know, after a few unsuccessful nudges, I 0:18:56.600 --> 0:18:58.840 finally kind of hit a point where I knew it 0:18:58.880 --> 0:19:02.480 was time. And it's amazing the weight that was lifted 0:19:02.520 --> 0:19:06.720 off my shoulder when I finally just gave into that realization. 0:19:06.920 --> 0:19:09.560 And I mean, I've discovered so much about myself. I 0:19:09.560 --> 0:19:12.159 don't think I ever knew I mean even kind of 0:19:12.160 --> 0:19:15.120 like you say, I mean, like I realized maybe I'm 0:19:15.160 --> 0:19:19.600 not as much of this, you know, extroverted, you know, 0:19:20.520 --> 0:19:22.400 I want to be around people all the time, kind 0:19:22.440 --> 0:19:25.159 of person. In reality, I think I needed alcohol to 0:19:25.240 --> 0:19:28.159 make me want to do those things. And I don't know, 0:19:28.200 --> 0:19:31.600 I just I've found so many such a strong relationship 0:19:31.640 --> 0:19:34.560 too with my wife and my son who's nine, you know, 0:19:34.600 --> 0:19:36.320 and I feel like I have more energy to kind 0:19:36.320 --> 0:19:39.679 of spend with him as well, and you know, if 0:19:39.720 --> 0:19:43.840 I want to get really spiritual with it, and you know, 0:19:44.680 --> 0:19:46.879 this baby, hands down would not have come in this 0:19:46.960 --> 0:19:49.280 world if I had not gotten sober, because I would 0:19:49.920 --> 0:19:51.840 highly doubt that my wife would have stayed with me. 0:19:51.960 --> 0:19:55.119 And so there's just so many blessings that have kind 0:19:55.119 --> 0:19:57.199 of come of it. And I mean, that's really so. 0:19:57.680 --> 0:19:59.520 How many years have you been married. 0:20:00.040 --> 0:20:02.160 I've been married, how sixteen years? 0:20:02.480 --> 0:20:04.880 How many years have you been together? Like before. 0:20:06.320 --> 0:20:10.040 Gosh, right when the band started, So two thousand and seven, 0:20:11.160 --> 0:20:13.480 we've been together maybe the end of two thousand and six. 0:20:13.600 --> 0:20:17.560 And up until three years ago, you were you were drinking. 0:20:17.320 --> 0:20:19.160 Yeah, in that while, and it's a. 0:20:19.119 --> 0:20:21.560 Progressive disease, so I'm sure in two thousand and six, 0:20:21.640 --> 0:20:26.480 two thousand and seven. It wasn't out of control. But yeah, exactly, 0:20:26.560 --> 0:20:31.440 with any disease process, if you don't turn the ship around, 0:20:32.280 --> 0:20:33.240 it doesn't get better. 0:20:34.040 --> 0:20:36.600 Yeah, yeah, exactly. It just you know, it's one of 0:20:36.680 --> 0:20:40.080 those things that, like, you know, and we both kind 0:20:40.080 --> 0:20:42.600 of fed off each other, my wife as well. I mean, 0:20:42.680 --> 0:20:45.199 she drank a lot with me, and I think I 0:20:45.359 --> 0:20:48.160 just ended up kind of moved into my little boys 0:20:48.200 --> 0:20:51.560 room here to people outside, but I think I just 0:20:51.720 --> 0:20:55.720 kind of ended up obviously taking it to that next level. 0:20:55.760 --> 0:21:00.119 And I mean when you've got pretty much everybody around you, 0:21:00.119 --> 0:21:03.080 you know, feeling like they need to be looking after 0:21:03.119 --> 0:21:05.120 you and watching out for you, I think that's when 0:21:05.160 --> 0:21:06.520 you know you have an issue. I mean, I think 0:21:06.520 --> 0:21:09.280 people that are able to do it and control it 0:21:09.359 --> 0:21:14.240 and you know, do it socially and appropriately, there's absolutely 0:21:14.240 --> 0:21:16.399 nothing wrong with it. But there's a lot of us 0:21:16.400 --> 0:21:19.000 out there that you know, as they say, you know, 0:21:19.480 --> 0:21:22.760 one drink's one drink's never enough, you know, and it's 0:21:22.840 --> 0:21:24.200 just a thousand. 0:21:24.720 --> 0:21:27.560 One drinks too many, and a thousand's never is. 0:21:27.760 --> 0:21:32.440 Yeah, one drinks too many, one more or whatever. Yeah, 0:21:32.480 --> 0:21:34.320 like you said, I mean, it really is. I mean 0:21:34.320 --> 0:21:36.720 I never had a cutoff valve. I could have drink 0:21:37.840 --> 0:21:40.640 until finally, you know, I pass out or someone told 0:21:40.680 --> 0:21:41.359 me that was enough. 0:21:41.960 --> 0:21:44.240 There was no time after time, because if I had 0:21:44.280 --> 0:21:46.679 more than one drink, I was. I was finding a 0:21:46.720 --> 0:21:54.720 corner and going to sleep. But nineteen eighty six is 0:21:54.760 --> 0:21:57.840 when I found my way to God, and I found 0:21:57.840 --> 0:22:00.720 my way to alan On, and then I found my 0:22:00.760 --> 0:22:05.200 way to a completely different life. Now I'm addicted to chickens. 0:22:05.840 --> 0:22:07.800 There you go. That's a healthy thing. 0:22:07.840 --> 0:22:12.919