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Speaker 2: So, in preparation for this interview, as I have shared

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Speaker 1: I'm a cancer. So I have that in the middle

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I and I don't and I don't care,

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Speaker 2: because you're entitled to have that. I I want you.

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Speaker 2: I do believe your voice is special and it is needed.

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Speaker 1: effective or even the best representative of myself, right, like

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Speaker 1: and I'm not gonna lie to you like I would

432
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Speaker 1: say that. There's like the passion level, and then there's

433
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Speaker 1: like the Okay, you're loud, and I'm really always constantly

434
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Speaker 1: trying to work on like not going to the your

435
00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:42,560
Speaker 1: loud level, which I'm also which being with a man

436
00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:44,960
Speaker 1: will force you to do because niggas ain't really having that.

437
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't want to hear it. I don't want

438
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Speaker 2: to hear I don't want to hear you talking to

439
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Speaker 2: you all the things. Yeah, you, But to your.

440
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Speaker 1: Point, if I came at you like this and you

441
00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:57,760
Speaker 1: wasn't really hearing me, and then I came at you

442
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Speaker 1: like this again and you wasn't hearing me, this only.

443
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Speaker 4: One way to go, right, Listen, you didn't tell me

444
00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:10,399
Speaker 4: because usually I'm gonna come like this first, and I'm like,

445
00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:12,520
Speaker 4: I tried to be sweet though, like cause you already know.

446
00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:15,680
Speaker 2: But anyway, whatever, I okay, So I have to ask

447
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Speaker 2: you this. This is so funny. I everybody smart, black

448
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Speaker 2: and funny, genus funny, smart, funny and black genius. I

449
00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:24,399
Speaker 2: was on it and didn't win.

450
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Speaker 1: The money the other day, he.

451
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Speaker 2: Told me, And you're doing and you're taking it on

452
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Speaker 2: the road, and you've done this before, you've been on

453
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Speaker 2: the road before. What is gonna do? Yeah, so what's

454
00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:38,040
Speaker 2: different this time than before prior to COVID.

455
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Speaker 1: I don't think there's anything necessarily different. I think we've

456
00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:45,399
Speaker 1: added some elements to the show. We do like a

457
00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:47,960
Speaker 1: whole happy Birthday segment to the show. We are constantly

458
00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:51,640
Speaker 1: adding different songs to the show based on the games.

459
00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:54,760
Speaker 1: We are in Brooklyn on the twenty ninth, so there's,

460
00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:56,520
Speaker 1: like I said earlier, there's an element of the show

461
00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:59,960
Speaker 1: on in the Brooklyn show where we're adding just having

462
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:03,200
Speaker 1: folks come dress as their favorite character, black character or icon,

463
00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:06,119
Speaker 1: and you don't have to come dress as that. But

464
00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:09,639
Speaker 1: we also we I've announced one of our black spurts

465
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Speaker 1: or that's our word for contestant, which is gonna be

466
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Speaker 1: method Man.

467
00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:17,320
Speaker 2: Oh lord, I'm coming just to see meth Man says, Listen,

468
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Speaker 2: when anyone.

469
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Speaker 1: Who knows me knows I have a wool tang fanatic

470
00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:25,760
Speaker 1: like Killo Bee's on the swamp sick, listen like a big,

471
00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:26,440
Speaker 1: big xamp.

472
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Speaker 2: So does anybody get to talk to him besides you?

473
00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:30,960
Speaker 2: Because I will come for that. Does anybody get to

474
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Speaker 2: do in this place and being his presence besides you,

475
00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:35,000
Speaker 2: he is too fine.

476
00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:38,919
Speaker 1: It's really it's really it's iconic level findeness, like you

477
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Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And he's nice, he's so, oh

478
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:48,680
Speaker 1: my gosh, the nicest, like just and consistent. Meth has

479
00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:51,520
Speaker 1: been the exact same person since I met him in

480
00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:56,600
Speaker 1: like two thousand and six, the same person and always

481
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Speaker 1: just honestly, I can say that for like the members

482
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Speaker 1: of the Woo that I know, like Ray Kwan, Ghosts,

483
00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:09,359
Speaker 1: the Jizza, the Rizza, like they're always very just like kind, respectful,

484
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:11,320
Speaker 1: like they've never come at me sideways. A little story.

485
00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:14,119
Speaker 1: So one time when I had met the Riza, he

486
00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:17,200
Speaker 1: invited me to come to an Oscar party and when

487
00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:20,520
Speaker 1: I got to the address, it was a hotel. Uh.

488
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:23,439
Speaker 1: And I texted him and I was like, I'm not

489
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Speaker 1: sure who you think I am. I know what you

490
00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:29,720
Speaker 1: think I'm about, but I'm not going to come to

491
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Speaker 1: your hotel room to watch the Oscars. And he called me.

492
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:41,880
Speaker 1: He's like, uh, it's a penthouse. There's several people here,

493
00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:50,720
Speaker 1: Tegula pis on the swamp. Sez I get upstairs. It's

494
00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:53,520
Speaker 1: like Erica Alexander, like the whole castle and who take show.

495
00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:59,560
Speaker 1: I'm like, hey, guy, sorry about this. Yay. I don't

496
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Speaker 1: know what you think this is, but I he learned

497
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 1: that day.

498
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:12,520
Speaker 2: He's like, come on in, no one's here to harm you.

499
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:15,479
Speaker 1: I don't about there's literally about face set up like

500
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Speaker 1: I hate that. I hate that. Okay, fine, I JK.

501
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:26,000
Speaker 1: But you know what, Listen, I come from hip hop

502
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:28,200
Speaker 1: like you gotta let people know. You gotta let people

503
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:29,720
Speaker 1: know because they will try it.

504
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:32,320
Speaker 2: I know we're not going anywhere. I really do need

505
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:34,520
Speaker 2: your help. You can fast forward through these commercials and

506
00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:36,720
Speaker 2: then just come right back, okay, because I need job

507
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:38,240
Speaker 2: to help me out. We got more with the Manda

508
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Speaker 2: seels on the other side of the break.

509
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Speaker 3: Every champion and carry champions. To be a champion out

510
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Speaker 3: a champion and cary champion and carry chat beat a

511
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Speaker 3: champion and carry chapion and carry chap entertainment and Naked Work.

512
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Speaker 3: Every champion and carry champion is to be a Champia

513
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Speaker 3: champion and carry champion. Nigga got champion, the care chapion

514
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Speaker 3: and carried she.

515
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Speaker 1: Work.

516
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Speaker 2: Hey, everybody, welcome back to Naked Aman to see you.

517
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:13,119
Speaker 2: Let's do music because I have said and you and

518
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:14,960
Speaker 2: I I'm not about to make this all about people

519
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,480
Speaker 2: we know. But Kendrick Carter told me you are arguably

520
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 2: the most talented person she has ever met, which to

521
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 2: me explains your need to do so many different things

522
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 2: at once because it just comes naturally. This is what

523
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:31,080
Speaker 2: Kendrick said. She was like, sings Dan, how is Kendra.

524
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:35,800
Speaker 2: She's doing good, She's doing really good. Yeah, I'm gonna tact.

525
00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:38,720
Speaker 2: I'm gonna pet and she she talks about the time

526
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:41,400
Speaker 2: y'all was friends walking to New York City streets hanging out.

527
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:42,880
Speaker 2: She comes, see you perform.

528
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:45,000
Speaker 1: Wait, can I just give a big up to her?

529
00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:47,600
Speaker 1: Real quick? Yes, I just give a big up when

530
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:50,480
Speaker 1: I'm When I moved to Los Angeles, I knew that

531
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Speaker 1: I wanted my life to be different. So that was

532
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Speaker 1: one of the reasons why I moved to Los Angeles.

533
00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 1: I was like, if you want drastic change, you gotta

534
00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,480
Speaker 1: make drastic moves. So I moved across the nation from

535
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Speaker 1: New York to Los Angeles. And one of the things

536
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:02,960
Speaker 1: I wanted to change was that I wanted to be

537
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:05,040
Speaker 1: a part of work that had more value to it

538
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:06,640
Speaker 1: because a lot of the work that I was doing

539
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:08,560
Speaker 1: with a lot of pop culture stuff that was kind

540
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:11,320
Speaker 1: of just like flash in the pan, like you know,

541
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:12,960
Speaker 1: you say a little joke, but it didn't have like

542
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:16,000
Speaker 1: actual like gravitas to it. And I knew that I

543
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:18,960
Speaker 1: was going to have to do scripted television like that

544
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:21,120
Speaker 1: just felt like. I was like, that's next in my path.

545
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:24,440
Speaker 1: But no one at my agency would would would send

546
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Speaker 1: me out on auditions. They would not send me out

547
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:29,200
Speaker 1: on scripted auditions. They were like, no, you're a digital talent.

548
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:31,680
Speaker 1: You're a digital talent. And so I had to then

549
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:34,840
Speaker 1: go to my resources and I hit up Kendrick Carter

550
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 1: and I was like, is there any way you can

551
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 1: get me a meeting with the scripted department at NBC?

552
00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:46,240
Speaker 1: And she was like, say less, done, set it up.

553
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:49,040
Speaker 1: I went and met with them. My agent hits me like, hey,

554
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 1: did you see a meeting at NBC? Yes? I did, Yes,

555
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 1: I did. Sure did that. Y'all would not set me

556
00:29:56,560 --> 00:30:02,880
Speaker 1: up with and started that that her allowing that like

557
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:05,640
Speaker 1: her making that happen forced my agency to then send

558
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Speaker 1: me out on auditions, which is how I ended up

559
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Speaker 1: auditioning for Insecure.

560
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Speaker 2: To them wow wow within for wow wow wow Wow.

561
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 2: Does she know that story?

562
00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:17,280
Speaker 1: I don't think she does.

563
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 2: Oh no, I got to put you guys on text

564
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:23,080
Speaker 2: after this. Okay, that's powerful and she but she's never

565
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:24,920
Speaker 2: This is one thing we both love about her as

566
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:27,880
Speaker 2: someone who can recognize talent. She's never I've never seen

567
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:29,719
Speaker 2: her off. She just knows. She's like, no amdic can

568
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 2: do it all. And so with that being said, I

569
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 2: don't know if a lot of people knew you were

570
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 2: in flower Tree you were war with I don't know.

571
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:39,360
Speaker 2: I don't know if they know that you replaced one

572
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:42,720
Speaker 2: of the members and went on tour. You have such

573
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Speaker 2: a not even considering that you have a master's from Columbia,

574
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 2: which is so hard to get into period. Right, you

575
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:52,960
Speaker 2: had this true intellect, then you have created this this

576
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 2: this brand for yourself and this showcase that you're taking

577
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:57,640
Speaker 2: on the road. Then you're an actress. Then you're like,

578
00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:01,440
Speaker 2: you can do it all. Does that get cumbersome for

579
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:03,040
Speaker 2: you or confuse the vision?

580
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 1: It's cumbersome because I what I'm not really good at

581
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:11,560
Speaker 1: is marketing and like business strategy. Like I'm not a dummy,

582
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:16,600
Speaker 1: so I can like create opportunities for myself to keep

583
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:24,920
Speaker 1: things going. But I am not enterprising in the way

584
00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:28,840
Speaker 1: that I see some of my peers be And I'm

585
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:31,320
Speaker 1: not sure yet if that's a good or I'm not

586
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:33,240
Speaker 1: sure yet if that's held me back or if that's

587
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 1: kept me sane. Like that's a fair question because ultimately

588
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 1: people are like, why aren't you you know what I mean? Like,

589
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:47,480
Speaker 1: and I think there's something that happens when you mix

590
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:50,520
Speaker 1: creativity with commerce, right like with capitalism, Like there's a

591
00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:54,240
Speaker 1: piece of you that you lose in that change.

592
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:56,840
Speaker 2: You said it earlier. You are free thinkers. You don't

593
00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:59,280
Speaker 2: have to worry about being tied to right or a

594
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 2: brand or what you can say what comes to your mind.

595
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:03,360
Speaker 2: So that's why it's authentic.

596
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 1: So like Bebbie Smith is always like a voice who

597
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:09,720
Speaker 1: will just like poke her head in to be like,

598
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:19,400
Speaker 1: keep going. Your path is different. Keep going because because

599
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:22,320
Speaker 1: sometimes you just think, like am I doing what I'm

600
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 1: supposed to be doing? Should I have a certain level

601
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:28,360
Speaker 1: of you know, at one point it felt like should

602
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 1: I have a certain level of fame? I don't feel

603
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 1: that way anymore because I really fame is like this

604
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 1: weird thing that I'm not really interested in. But what

605
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 1: I am interested in is options and being able to

606
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:45,320
Speaker 1: have like the options to create without so many barriers

607
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:48,320
Speaker 1: and so much convincing, Right, But you come to understand

608
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 1: that like the people who kind of fand away, the

609
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 1: people who navigate that very deathly, they are they have

610
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:57,440
Speaker 1: a different relationship to their art. So that's why so

611
00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:01,960
Speaker 1: many people have like a business person who's like their

612
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:05,400
Speaker 1: partner or that works alongside them, who thinks that way,

613
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:07,240
Speaker 1: Because I'm the one who's like, Okay, so what we

614
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:09,520
Speaker 1: can do is all right, yes, okay, I want to

615
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:13,400
Speaker 1: do a game show, and then it's but to be

616
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 1: like black history, but then it's also a sing along.

617
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:19,320
Speaker 1: And then it's also you know, so like I got

618
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:21,560
Speaker 1: you on that, I got you on that. But then

619
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 1: there's also the people who are like, but why don't

620
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 1: you have sponsors yet?

621
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:25,240
Speaker 2: Yeah?

622
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh, because I don't really know how

623
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 1: to do that.

624
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:32,800
Speaker 2: Same but and I do, and I do understand the

625
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 2: frustration of someone being like you should already have that.

626
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:37,560
Speaker 2: You're just like, it doesn't work that way. It just doesn't.

627
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:40,080
Speaker 2: I understand what you're saying, but it doesn't. It's a

628
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:41,000
Speaker 2: different capacity.

629
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 1: How many times a day do you get why don't

630
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 1: you have your own show?

631
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:48,000
Speaker 2: Oh? Girl? I'm alway, I don't know well, and I

632
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 2: started it with you, and normally now I receive it

633
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:52,400
Speaker 2: as that's a compliment. You want mine.

634
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 1: It is to hear me.

635
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:55,080
Speaker 2: You want to hear me. Who wants to be like

636
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:57,520
Speaker 2: but no, before you're like, well, because you ain't got

637
00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 2: your own show, you know what I mean? Are they

638
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 2: giving out shows to black girls, little black girls around

639
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:04,680
Speaker 2: the world? They should?

640
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:10,279
Speaker 1: They really should? I really You had said earlier that

641
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:11,880
Speaker 1: you feel like I would I should have like my

642
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:13,800
Speaker 1: own daily show, and I feel like a lot of

643
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:15,319
Speaker 1: people are like a man, I should do the Daily Show.

644
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 1: I would not do the Daily Show for a number

645
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:19,200
Speaker 1: of reasons, right, But one of them is like I

646
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:20,879
Speaker 1: would not want to live in New York again for that,

647
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 1: just like indefinitely. But the other reason is because, like

648
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:26,759
Speaker 1: you said something where you were like, you know, you

649
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:32,240
Speaker 1: like kind of like wax poetic and philosophize on topics

650
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:36,640
Speaker 1: beyond like what people are talking about, and it's like

651
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:39,359
Speaker 1: that that's the show I would want, Like I don't

652
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:41,440
Speaker 1: want the show where I'm telling you the news, Like

653
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:43,760
Speaker 1: I want the show where you already know the news

654
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:50,759
Speaker 1: and I'm providing and ideating and considering other things about that,

655
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:52,239
Speaker 1: which is what I thought I was going to get

656
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:55,360
Speaker 1: to do with the real Yeah, you know, like just

657
00:34:55,760 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 1: cause it's like when you have these topics, there's only

658
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:02,440
Speaker 1: so much you can say about like the fact. It's

659
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:03,960
Speaker 1: like these are the facts. But then it's like, how

660
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:06,440
Speaker 1: do you yes, yes, you know what I mean, Like,

661
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:07,840
Speaker 1: how do you expound upon that? How do you like

662
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:09,759
Speaker 1: make that relatable? How do you apply that to like

663
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 1: bigger concepts of our socialization, of patriarchy, etcetera, etcetera. Like

664
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 1: that's the stuff I'm interested.

665
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:18,120
Speaker 2: In, Yeah, the teaching of it all, because you are

666
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 2: a professor. So yes, yeah, that's also something Kindri used

667
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:24,719
Speaker 2: to call you. She said she needs to go in

668
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:26,359
Speaker 2: and go ahead and just be a professor. I don't

669
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 2: know what she's doing.

670
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 1: Thought about it. I thought about it. I really like

671
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:32,879
Speaker 1: when I was I was trying to move to When

672
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:34,200
Speaker 1: I was trying to move to La, I was trying

673
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:35,279
Speaker 1: to figure out how I was going to do it

674
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:38,319
Speaker 1: because it seemed like such a BMS task, like the

675
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:40,959
Speaker 1: money and then where you're gonna live, and then the job.

676
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 1: And I had become friends with my sister Tommy Crump,

677
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:49,719
Speaker 1: who's an exec and Toya. So Tommy is just that

678
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:52,360
Speaker 1: is my sister from another mister and Tommy. I just

679
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:54,400
Speaker 1: remember Tommy sipping a glass of wine and being like,

680
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:57,400
Speaker 1: what did you get like a PhD fellowship and like

681
00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 1: that to pay for it? And I was like, you

682
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 1: sound just like her too, though, right, you know, Tommy

683
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:08,840
Speaker 1: is Tommy is part of my Uh, Tommy is a

684
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:11,720
Speaker 1: part of like the character shaping that I did for Tiffany.

685
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:14,400
Speaker 2: Oh real, are you kidding me?

686
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:18,480
Speaker 1: Yes? She never told me that she doesn't tell people

687
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:23,440
Speaker 1: because she's like, I don't like it. Tiffany Dubois of

688
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:27,399
Speaker 1: Insecure is based on my friend Tommy Crump, who is

689
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:32,000
Speaker 1: just as like Studio corporate as she as she is

690
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:37,600
Speaker 1: Philly to the bone. Okay, so she's both of those things.

691
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 1: And then the other part of my character shaping for

692
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:45,919
Speaker 1: Tiffany Duban Insecure was Chante Moore in the Chante's Got

693
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 1: a Man video.

694
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:51,919
Speaker 2: That yes, as I'm screaming yes, yes.

695
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 1: That yeah, and like Chantey Moore like started following me

696
00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 1: and I was just like, oh my god, like it's

697
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:00,200
Speaker 1: the worlds are colliding.

698
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:02,400
Speaker 2: Wait a second. She took a sip of wine and

699
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 2: say why don't you just get a PhD Fellow show? Exactly?

700
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:09,400
Speaker 2: That's exactly what she would say, Yeah.

701
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 1: Casual, why don't you just do that? That's like when

702
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 1: my mom, like in like two thousand and four just

703
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:15,920
Speaker 1: like turned to me casually on the couch and was like,

704
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 1: you know who, you should do a song with Lenny Gravitz?

705
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 1: Oh should I? Okay, let me give him a ring.

706
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:27,440
Speaker 1: I think that's where the defense that you would have

707
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 1: around like people saying why don't you have a show,

708
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 1: That's where it comes from. It's like this idea that

709
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:36,600
Speaker 1: you're like turning down shows. Yeah, you know, I you know,

710
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 1: like like like there's just like like your It's like

711
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 1: when people say, like why don't you have a man?

712
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:47,920
Speaker 1: If there were so many options? Get? I mean like

713
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:51,279
Speaker 1: that used to blow my mind when people say, like

714
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:56,359
Speaker 1: I want one, Like why are we acting as if

715
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 1: we're like getting dropped off at good Nigga Island and

716
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 1: we're just like no, no, no, he's too short, No

717
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:07,760
Speaker 1: he's too fine, Like that's not a thing that's happening. Okay,

718
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:15,279
Speaker 1: it's good. Amen, listen. I'm I there has not been

719
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:18,319
Speaker 1: a charted course yet, and I'm literally trying to find it.

720
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:20,360
Speaker 1: Like I talked to my dude all the time about

721
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:23,439
Speaker 1: like where where'd you come from? Like whey out at

722
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:24,320
Speaker 1: uh huh.

723
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:26,960
Speaker 2: He's like, it's just me. I'm one of one. I

724
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 2: would set apart for you. I'm one of one set

725
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 2: apart for you, nobody else.

726
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 1: I won't believe that every time every time I see you,

727
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:36,080
Speaker 1: I'm just like, we're.

728
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:38,839
Speaker 2: Gonna get her a boom. It's coming, it's coming, And

729
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:41,480
Speaker 2: my show was coming, as is your show. It's coming.

730
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:45,040
Speaker 1: Here's the thing. There's a large part of me that

731
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:47,400
Speaker 1: also just feels like I've been a late bloomer in

732
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:50,000
Speaker 1: every facet of my life. So like why wouldn't I

733
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:52,799
Speaker 1: be a late bloomer in like the show facet? Like

734
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:55,160
Speaker 1: why wouldn't I like I was a late bloomer in

735
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 1: like physical development, I've been a late bloomer and even

736
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 1: just like my own sense of awareness and health and

737
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 1: healing right, and like I when I got with my partner,

738
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 1: we were together in college and then we like lived

739
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 1: separate lives and then we came back together. But I

740
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:19,080
Speaker 1: wouldn't have been able to receive him like literally six

741
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 1: months earlier. Correct, I wouldn't have could I.

742
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:24,800
Speaker 2: Feel my work because you were doing the work.

743
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 1: I was like, in the thick of the flicking, I

744
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 1: know about it. Yeah, that work.

745
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 2: It's and it's hard, and you got to sit with

746
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:36,200
Speaker 2: these uncomfortable as feelings and realizations of who you are

747
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 2: and just you're like, oh my god, yes yeah, yeah,

748
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 2: you're like okay, And it's all the printing period because

749
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:45,839
Speaker 2: yes we want our partner, Yes we want our show,

750
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:47,879
Speaker 2: and it is in due time. And I think the

751
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 2: Daily show comment is just about and and it's hard

752
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:54,279
Speaker 2: for people to receive compliments. So just just just hear me.

753
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 1: No, I receive it. I receive it. I totals received

754
00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 1: because as.

755
00:39:57,880 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 2: Someone who sees everyone pop up with a show on air,

756
00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:04,400
Speaker 2: it's very in this world of our attention span is

757
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:07,319
Speaker 2: like this. If someone is literally waiting to hear what

758
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:09,799
Speaker 2: you have to say to the very end, it's very

759
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:12,960
Speaker 2: important to know that your voice means a lot. It

760
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:15,920
Speaker 2: may not. I'd rather have a super small dope following

761
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:18,759
Speaker 2: instead of like thirty million people who don't even pay

762
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:24,279
Speaker 2: attention to me quantity every single day, and so it is.

763
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:27,759
Speaker 2: It is you are constantly top of mind when people

764
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 2: are talking about did you hear what a man to

765
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:30,760
Speaker 2: said the other day about such and such.

766
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 1: So that's new. Like I did not really realize that,

767
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:37,680
Speaker 1: Like I genuinely did not really realize that until we

768
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:41,799
Speaker 1: started going outside again. Oh okay, because you know, we

769
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:43,279
Speaker 1: was in this pandemic and we were all in the house.

770
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 1: Yeah I'm saying, so Ilway was be on my phone

771
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:46,719
Speaker 1: because I'm in house. Okay, Like I'm just I'm in

772
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 1: a house. So I got a thought, let me share it.

773
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:55,040
Speaker 1: I'm in the house, okay. Yeah. And if I'm being honest,

774
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 1: I think the inter net connection kind of helped me

775
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:05,680
Speaker 1: mainsaying in the isolation of the quarantine and the first

776
00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:08,479
Speaker 1: two years of the pandemic, because I didn't feel safe

777
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:10,120
Speaker 1: to go out and tour. I didn't feel safe to

778
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:12,160
Speaker 1: go out and like keep doing the art thing that

779
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:15,840
Speaker 1: I was doing. And so it was like this last

780
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:18,279
Speaker 1: thread of like, Okay, I can still be expressive and

781
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:21,400
Speaker 1: get something back, right. And so then when we started

782
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:24,360
Speaker 1: going outside again, people would be coming up to me,

783
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:27,359
Speaker 1: like our peers would be coming up to me and saying, like, girl,

784
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:29,800
Speaker 1: I've been following you throughout this whole, in this pandemic.

785
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 1: You got me through this pandemic. I'm like, for real,

786
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 1: And that was something I kind of just didn't I

787
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:43,799
Speaker 1: just wasn't truly aware of, and it heightened my It

788
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:48,839
Speaker 1: heightened my consciousness about like shifting. I realized I had

789
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:51,359
Speaker 1: to shift my focus that I've been really kind of

790
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 1: following the normal track of like I need to get

791
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:56,319
Speaker 1: these executives to care about me. I need to get

792
00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:59,719
Speaker 1: this industry to get to care about me. And I realized, like, no,

793
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 1: what you need to do is preserve the connection you

794
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:06,319
Speaker 1: have with the audience that cares about you, and you

795
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:08,880
Speaker 1: need to put your energy into that, into figuring out

796
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:10,560
Speaker 1: how to do that, which is why I decided, like,

797
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:13,719
Speaker 1: let me go on tour. And so I've been on

798
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 1: tour with the Black Outside Again Tour since since June,

799
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:20,239
Speaker 1: and it's been it's been of a journey. It's been

800
00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:24,279
Speaker 1: a bit of a journey because one of my partners

801
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:26,719
Speaker 1: along the way in the tour like didn't really show

802
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 1: up in the way that I would have liked them too,

803
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 1: and so it caused my tickets to not move in

804
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:34,839
Speaker 1: the way that they normally do, and there was this

805
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 1: worry by them that like, oh, well, you shouldn't do

806
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:42,720
Speaker 1: shows where you only sold thirty percent of the house

807
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:47,200
Speaker 1: because it's going to be embarrassing for you. And let

808
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:49,479
Speaker 1: me tell you, they could have not been more wrong.

809
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:56,120
Speaker 1: Because when you are folks like us who like people,

810
00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 1: aren't like fans of, they're supporters of, it's a different

811
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 1: it's a different energy. Like they're showing up. It's like

812
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 1: every person equals six people. Yeah I say it, like

813
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:11,200
Speaker 1: they're showing up with full one hundred percent. Like I'm here.

814
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 1: So even if even if I'm in a venue that's

815
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:16,800
Speaker 1: supposed to have two thousand people and there's only seven

816
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:21,239
Speaker 1: hundred people there, it feels like five thousand because they

817
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 1: rock what you heavy, you know what I mean, and

818
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 1: you're thank you out for coming out. Yeah, no, they

819
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 1: have your back.

820
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:30,759
Speaker 2: It is it is Honestly, I think something that you said,

821
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:33,120
Speaker 2: the pandemic gave you and yes you did give it back.

822
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:37,120
Speaker 2: But when you're sought after for opinion, much like you know,

823
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:39,160
Speaker 2: our brother Sharp, people want to hear what you have

824
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:41,720
Speaker 2: to say. It's part of the culture. You're a voice

825
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 2: of the culture, and as it's happening, you don't know

826
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:48,279
Speaker 2: it's happening, but it's happening in real time. Then I

827
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:50,600
Speaker 2: can name twenty thirty people, but it's just happening in

828
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:53,200
Speaker 2: real time, and it could be a conversation at the

829
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 2: dinner table about what you said about what's going on

830
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:57,799
Speaker 2: with the city council here in La, which I'm I mean,

831
00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:00,279
Speaker 2: you got me, had me fired up, just not the

832
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 2: videos with you not looking and just making faces are hilarious.

833
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:09,320
Speaker 1: So listen. Someone commented that video was reposted, and someone

834
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:12,600
Speaker 1: in the comments said, you know what upsets me about

835
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:18,480
Speaker 1: this is these videos where someone is reacting to what

836
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:22,280
Speaker 1: other people said and judging them as if they're perfect.

837
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:27,040
Speaker 1: Amanda Seale's better hope no videos or recordings leak of her.

838
00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:30,440
Speaker 1: And I thought that was interesting, and I was like,

839
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 1: I'm sure that I have absolutely said shit that people

840
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:40,359
Speaker 1: will take and run with, right, nothing like that, but

841
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:43,400
Speaker 1: I'm sure let me just disclaim her that. But that

842
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:46,239
Speaker 1: being said, I'm like my response to that was, I

843
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 1: think what's odd to me is that you because he

844
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 1: was like, it feels like this is for entertainment value,

845
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:53,280
Speaker 1: and so what's odd to me is that you feel

846
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:58,839
Speaker 1: that like bolstering an entertainment aspect to the revelation of

847
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:01,399
Speaker 1: information that people should know about it. Is like that

848
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:05,279
Speaker 1: that somehow devalues the information that they're being shown. And

849
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 1: in my opinion, I feel like what I've been really

850
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:14,480
Speaker 1: fortunate to figure out is how to use my entertainment

851
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 1: value to create education and make it edutainment. So like

852
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:21,520
Speaker 1: that situation with the woman in the LACD council and

853
00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:25,120
Speaker 1: the other two members and them talking very disparagingly about

854
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:28,800
Speaker 1: Indigenous people in Mexico as well as about this black child,

855
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:32,200
Speaker 1: et cetera, Like that is information that folks need to

856
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:36,480
Speaker 1: know absolutely, because these are people who are in legislative

857
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:41,359
Speaker 1: like and like rulemaking and law making positions, and if

858
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:44,880
Speaker 1: they are holding biases against the people in their constituency,

859
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:47,640
Speaker 1: then they are not the doer you should be in

860
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:51,080
Speaker 1: that job. And if I got to make a video

861
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:57,480
Speaker 1: reacting to make to grandize or amplify that, then so

862
00:45:57,640 --> 00:45:58,360
Speaker 1: be it.

863
00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:01,480
Speaker 2: Then so be it. Because you you make it so

864
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:03,840
Speaker 2: simple and so plain. Then you're like, I am outraged.

865
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:06,399
Speaker 2: You mean to tell me we here we are all

866
00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:09,080
Speaker 2: marginalized black and brown folks, so we're all against each other.

867
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:10,439
Speaker 2: So the blacks are with the blacks and the whites

868
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 2: are What the are we doing? What is the point?

869
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:15,200
Speaker 1: Well, you know, the thing is is that not all

870
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:19,160
Speaker 1: brown folks are brown folks. So like there's you know,

871
00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:22,279
Speaker 1: within the Latin X or Hispanic community, you know, you

872
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:25,239
Speaker 1: have Afro Latino Afro LATINX people, and then you have

873
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:28,800
Speaker 1: you know, indigenous people. But then you have the white

874
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:30,840
Speaker 1: folks who are the descendants of slaves. And you know,

875
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:34,920
Speaker 1: I think they call they call the mestizo, but they

876
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:39,160
Speaker 1: they consider themselves adjacent to whiteness, and they're like, we're

877
00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:40,920
Speaker 1: gonna be I say, I A would say, like they

878
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:44,719
Speaker 1: think they're gonna be the next Italian. Yeah, yeah, because

879
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:47,920
Speaker 1: Italians were not considered white. And then it was like,

880
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:50,919
Speaker 1: we need more folks, we need more folks. Y'all could

881
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 1: be white. Y'all could be white, Like white whiteness is

882
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:58,680
Speaker 1: a Whiteness is a moving goalpost that only consist, that

883
00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:05,000
Speaker 1: only contains it's power by numbers. Right. So that's why,

884
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:08,080
Speaker 1: like when you see this whole Roe v. Wade thing,

885
00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:09,640
Speaker 1: and there's a theory that this has to do with

886
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:12,759
Speaker 1: there being fewer white babies born, like that completely supports that,

887
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 1: like there has to be it's a I saw this

888
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:17,600
Speaker 1: brother speaking the other day. I'm so mad. I don't

889
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:19,440
Speaker 1: have his name in my mind right now. But he

890
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:22,719
Speaker 1: was saying, racism is a team sport. He's like as

891
00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:24,760
Speaker 1: a team sport. And so if you have the deeper bench,

892
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 1: you can fight the fight like you can keep yourself

893
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:32,000
Speaker 1: on top. And I look at black folks all the

894
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:34,280
Speaker 1: time and say, you know, we miss we have missed

895
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 1: the boat on realizing the incredible depth and power that

896
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:41,239
Speaker 1: we have simply just in numbers, in numbers.

897
00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:44,520
Speaker 2: And sticking together and we have we have no concept

898
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:46,720
Speaker 2: of the power that we have. And we love.

899
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:48,440
Speaker 1: To say we're not a monolith. And I'm like, but

900
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:50,400
Speaker 1: we could stand to be a little bit more.

901
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:54,680
Speaker 2: We could, we could be a little more one I

902
00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:57,359
Speaker 2: and whatever I can. Started to talk about that all day. Girl,

903
00:47:57,440 --> 00:47:59,920
Speaker 2: get me fired up on your people. But I love you.

904
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:00,440
Speaker 1: I love you.

905
00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:03,600
Speaker 3: Every champion and carry Champion is to be a champion

906
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:06,440
Speaker 3: out of Champion and Cary Chappion and carry Chap out

907
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:11,000
Speaker 3: a champion and carry Chappion and carry chap Entertainment, can

908
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:18,400
Speaker 3: Naked work, Rry Champion and carry Champion is to be

909
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:23,880
Speaker 3: a champion of Champion and Carrie Chappion, Champion and carry Chappion.

910
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:24,319
Speaker 1: And carried Chap.

911
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:27,000
Speaker 4: Entertainment work.

912
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:32,480
Speaker 2: I do say this with my understanding of your eduitainment.

913
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:35,960
Speaker 2: Do you ever feel, because I used to say this

914
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 2: all the time, you talk every day on TV bound

915
00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:42,680
Speaker 2: the stations, it's just gonna happen. Do you ever feel

916
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:47,280
Speaker 2: that you want to not be in the game after

917
00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 2: a bad day on Social? Do you ever feel like

918
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:51,239
Speaker 2: I'm packing it up?

919
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:51,440
Speaker 1: Y'all?

920
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:53,640
Speaker 2: Don't get no more in my wisdom you have you

921
00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:56,680
Speaker 2: ever felt that way? Even when like, even let's talk

922
00:48:56,680 --> 00:48:58,960
Speaker 2: about Insecure, You're like, you do know this is a

923
00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:04,319
Speaker 2: character like I am just you know.

924
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:04,479
Speaker 1: I was like, what is going on?

925
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:09,160
Speaker 2: I couldn't even understand. I couldn't understand it. I could

926
00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 2: not understand it. That would have made me irritate it,

927
00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:13,839
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, to the point where I'm

928
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:15,760
Speaker 2: been like I'm tapping off. I'm tapping off of Social.

929
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:18,640
Speaker 2: I don't you, guys, this is I am not in AKA.

930
00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 2: This is a character that I am playing. If you

931
00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:25,319
Speaker 2: guys could give me some grace, I have felt I

932
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:26,239
Speaker 2: have felt that way.

933
00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:30,640
Speaker 1: Like sometimes it just feels like, oh, like this is

934
00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:33,279
Speaker 1: just an overabundance of ignorance that I can't take, or

935
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:35,719
Speaker 1: this is an overabundance of negativity that I can't take.

936
00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:38,520
Speaker 1: I mean, I told this story before, Like I remember

937
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:43,040
Speaker 1: when I had I had two situations happened in twenty

938
00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:51,520
Speaker 1: nineteen where like I was just dragged baby okay, dow

939
00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:58,600
Speaker 1: wow through the Internet and we can laugh at it now,

940
00:49:59,000 --> 00:49:59,640
Speaker 1: you guys.

941
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:01,480
Speaker 2: Don't want to through the internet like that is some

942
00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:04,560
Speaker 2: real just visualize that that is so that's how would

943
00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:09,600
Speaker 2: be literally dog walked me through the Internet.

944
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:12,360
Speaker 1: And folks don't understand that because folks will say things

945
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:15,359
Speaker 1: like I don't know why you care that people who

946
00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:17,319
Speaker 1: don't know you are talking about you, and it's like

947
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:20,239
Speaker 1: that's why because they're just like you do know me.

948
00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:24,040
Speaker 1: Like so, but I was being dog walk through this

949
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:26,360
Speaker 1: internet and there was it was a scenario that had happened,

950
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:29,600
Speaker 1: and I thought like, okay, we had gotten through it,

951
00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:34,080
Speaker 1: and then it got re visited like someone just decided,

952
00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 1: like on a Tuesday at two o'clock, like, you know what,

953
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:39,160
Speaker 1: let me just put this back in the atmosphere. And

954
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:45,160
Speaker 1: I started getting the tags and getting the dms, and

955
00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:48,920
Speaker 1: I just like I remember I was about to interview

956
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:53,160
Speaker 1: comedian Sam Jay on my podcast until she was at

957
00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:56,319
Speaker 1: the house and I literally just like fell like I

958
00:50:56,400 --> 00:51:00,359
Speaker 1: like crumbled to my knees and was just like I'm done,

959
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:04,640
Speaker 1: Like I'm just done. Like it like actually broke me

960
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:08,560
Speaker 1: because because the thing, because the thing that I was

961
00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:13,880
Speaker 1: being attacked for was for something that I was wholeheartedly

962
00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:20,920
Speaker 1: justified in doing and it needed to happen. And it

963
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:26,880
Speaker 1: was like, how could I be so misunderstood in this situation?

964
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:30,719
Speaker 1: Like like what does that like? And so what happens

965
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:35,560
Speaker 1: is you reach the point of like if this is

966
00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:41,440
Speaker 1: how people react to me moving at my most authentic

967
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:43,960
Speaker 1: and genuine, then like how the fuck could I continue

968
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:47,399
Speaker 1: to move in this space? I have to go right

969
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:49,040
Speaker 1: And I feel like for a lot of people, that's

970
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:51,560
Speaker 1: what suicide really is about. It's like if this is

971
00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:54,920
Speaker 1: what it's gonna be, if I continue to be me,

972
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:59,360
Speaker 1: then I just can't continue to be And I felt

973
00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:02,120
Speaker 1: I felt that the four too. But but as it

974
00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:04,160
Speaker 1: related to the business, like that was I just said

975
00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:06,120
Speaker 1: and Sam had to like, yeah, it was a it

976
00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:09,799
Speaker 1: was a Terry McMillan film. Like Sam had to like

977
00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:12,640
Speaker 1: pick me up off the ground and be like, no, sister,

978
00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:19,640
Speaker 1: this is You've got to keep going, you know. And

979
00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:22,520
Speaker 1: I'm just like, oh my gosh, She's like, no, let

980
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:25,080
Speaker 1: number break you, you know, and then it's like a

981
00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:30,000
Speaker 1: Tyler Perry stage play. You know, you know, you're just

982
00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:38,399
Speaker 1: like to have like but you know in the more,

983
00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:43,239
Speaker 1: in the more, like in the more travel size because

984
00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:47,960
Speaker 1: we're so happy and Sam is strong. That's a strong girl, Sam,

985
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:49,319
Speaker 1: I love.

986
00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:53,040
Speaker 2: She said, let me pick you up physically and and emotionally.

987
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:59,480
Speaker 1: You need these niggas. Everybody you know you need that.

988
00:52:59,560 --> 00:53:01,279
Speaker 1: You need that. People always ask me like, oh, like,

989
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:03,160
Speaker 1: what's your advice is someone getting in this business? And

990
00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:04,920
Speaker 1: I'm like, make sure you have people around you who

991
00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:06,799
Speaker 1: remind you of who you are on the days this

992
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:08,080
Speaker 1: business makes you forget.

993
00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:10,560
Speaker 2: Hey man, that is a by the way, that is

994
00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:12,840
Speaker 2: a word for your ass. And then it just rejuvenates you.

995
00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:14,840
Speaker 2: And she gave you what you needed to keep going.

996
00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:18,120
Speaker 2: I think, I think you're built for this. But when

997
00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:20,600
Speaker 2: you're in the middle of being dog walk on the

998
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:22,759
Speaker 2: internet and.

999
00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:24,839
Speaker 1: You're always like surprised, like like I know.

1000
00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:27,920
Speaker 2: It's random, You're like, wait what you know?

1001
00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:30,200
Speaker 1: And it'll keep up on you. So many times y'all.

1002
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:32,799
Speaker 1: I will like send a tweet and then go about

1003
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:35,080
Speaker 1: my life or liked it like something, and then just

1004
00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:37,920
Speaker 1: go about my life and then like, you know, a

1005
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:43,520
Speaker 1: few hours later, look at my phone, like, oh, I

1006
00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:45,879
Speaker 1: don't know if you remember. There was this white lady

1007
00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:49,279
Speaker 1: who like she like sent a tweet before she took

1008
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:51,319
Speaker 1: off on a flight to South Africa and she said

1009
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:54,720
Speaker 1: something like I'm going she said something like hella racist,

1010
00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:58,640
Speaker 1: and she was like an exec for some big company.

1011
00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:00,520
Speaker 1: And then she and then she turned her phone off

1012
00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:02,160
Speaker 1: and like took off on the on the plate and

1013
00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:04,359
Speaker 1: when she landed fourteen hours later, she had like lost

1014
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:08,279
Speaker 1: her job, like she had been like everything had been

1015
00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:10,160
Speaker 1: blown up, and I'm just like damn, Like that's how

1016
00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:13,239
Speaker 1: would be sometimes, No, she said out a tweet I

1017
00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:15,160
Speaker 1: will never forget when I was sitting at a Paris

1018
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:17,759
Speaker 1: airport and I sent out a tweet that said, if

1019
00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:23,160
Speaker 1: you have Jay's and Nike suits and you don't have

1020
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:26,479
Speaker 1: a passport, then you're losing. And then I like put

1021
00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:29,880
Speaker 1: my phone away and went out with my life. And

1022
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:32,440
Speaker 1: by the time I got to Wi Fi again, I

1023
00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:36,440
Speaker 1: was the hated, Like what.

1024
00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:39,040
Speaker 2: Was what was the outrage for the alleged outrage.

1025
00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:43,520
Speaker 1: The alleged outrage was that I was policing how black

1026
00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:46,399
Speaker 1: people spend their money. Didn't say anything about black people

1027
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:48,600
Speaker 1: in the tweet. I was policing how black people spend

1028
00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:53,160
Speaker 1: their money. I was being elitist. I was trying to

1029
00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:56,960
Speaker 1: force people to travel who don't want to travel. I

1030
00:54:57,760 --> 00:55:00,600
Speaker 1: was talking about this on Candy Berus's podcast the other day, well,

1031
00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:02,919
Speaker 1: her show the other day, and I was like, I'll

1032
00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:07,400
Speaker 1: never forget. There was a tweet that said, Amanda Seals

1033
00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:13,600
Speaker 1: is an elitist, petty bourgeoisie who is passport shaming the

1034
00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:18,719
Speaker 1: disenfranchised black community. Oh wow, Wow, I'm doing all of that.

1035
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:21,920
Speaker 1: Wow okay, just by a tweet, I did all that.

1036
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:24,200
Speaker 1: You're and that's the part where you're just like, you

1037
00:55:24,239 --> 00:55:26,439
Speaker 1: don't even know me, what are you talking about? Oh?

1038
00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:30,520
Speaker 1: Someone told me the other day that by resharing an

1039
00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:38,880
Speaker 1: Al Jazeera news story about something about like a an

1040
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:41,879
Speaker 1: noown Zera's news story about something going on in Ethiopia,

1041
00:55:43,040 --> 00:55:46,800
Speaker 1: they said that I was empowering the Ethiopia and government.

1042
00:55:47,480 --> 00:55:53,160
Speaker 1: And I was like, I, ma'am, I don't have that

1043
00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:53,920
Speaker 1: kind of power.

1044
00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:56,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, well she but yes, that's the beauty of it

1045
00:55:56,760 --> 00:55:58,359
Speaker 2: all though, That's what I'm saying. That's how people see

1046
00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:01,120
Speaker 2: you and it's interesting, and that doesn't mean change who

1047
00:56:01,120 --> 00:56:03,080
Speaker 2: you are. It means that that just comes with the

1048
00:56:03,160 --> 00:56:05,840
Speaker 2: territory of having the ear right and being a voice

1049
00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:07,759
Speaker 2: within our culture, right, But.

1050
00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:11,920
Speaker 1: It does mean changing like what you decide to like

1051
00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:12,960
Speaker 1: step into.

1052
00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:15,640
Speaker 2: I feel yeah, yeah, it depends well because you know

1053
00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:17,600
Speaker 2: Jamel and I'd be like, did youme, Like, I don't

1054
00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:19,719
Speaker 2: even feel like getting into it with these today, you

1055
00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:20,200
Speaker 2: know what I mean?

1056
00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:23,239
Speaker 1: Like Mel's mom, Damel's mom was on my flight back

1057
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:27,920
Speaker 1: from UH Detroit the other day. She told she was like, well,

1058
00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:33,480
Speaker 1: you know my daughter is Damel Hill. Did you tell

1059
00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:37,080
Speaker 1: Jamil that? Did you? I was texting her. I was like, yo, yeah,

1060
00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:39,640
Speaker 1: mothers me. She was like, oh Lord told the whole

1061
00:56:39,640 --> 00:56:40,520
Speaker 1: plane and she's my mother.

1062
00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:45,080
Speaker 2: That is so funny. Well, let me tell you.

1063
00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:47,200
Speaker 1: I don't think her mom realized I like know her

1064
00:56:47,239 --> 00:56:49,279
Speaker 1: know her though, Like I was, she was like, oh,

1065
00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:51,160
Speaker 1: you know my daughter was like, She's like, what's your name, Amana?

1066
00:56:51,239 --> 00:56:53,000
Speaker 1: She was like, well, thank you for your support, And

1067
00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:59,160
Speaker 1: I was like no, Like I like, like I know,

1068
00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:00,279
Speaker 1: I like, I'm tactic her like what that?

1069
00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:03,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, not not only do I support her, but that's

1070
00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:07,000
Speaker 2: like my friends real like yeah, oh you do know,

1071
00:57:07,080 --> 00:57:11,560
Speaker 2: my daughter? Oh, okay, no, so I do. I do know.

1072
00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:13,240
Speaker 2: I do know if you want to feel the headache,

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00:57:13,239 --> 00:57:14,880
Speaker 2: cause no matter what, when you're in the middle of it,

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00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:17,160
Speaker 2: it still takes a lot from you and I and

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Speaker 2: I think, and I've said this before, I'm in a

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Speaker 2: space where I like to watch people evolve and grow

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Speaker 2: and I've seen you do that. So don't be kind

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Speaker 2: and gentle to yourself. Don't take that for granted, because

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Speaker 2: it's it's beautiful and it's special.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Carrie Champs.

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Speaker 2: What you about to say?

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Speaker 1: No, because people I see people all the time will

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00:57:38,680 --> 00:57:42,240
Speaker 1: be like, you're so much like happier now you know,

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00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:44,400
Speaker 1: you're just not as angry. It's like, damn, can I

1085
00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:45,160
Speaker 1: bitch get loved?

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00:57:45,320 --> 00:57:52,040
Speaker 2: Like yeah, and let me learn, and yes, love helps,

1087
00:57:52,320 --> 00:57:55,960
Speaker 2: but you've been learning and that's and I'm watching legislation. Yeah,

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00:57:56,360 --> 00:57:59,120
Speaker 2: we're allowed to do that. We are allowed to do that,

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Speaker 2: So don't don't for get that part of the process.

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Speaker 1: I don't believe in the whole, like, oh, a lepard

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00:58:03,120 --> 00:58:05,800
Speaker 1: doesn't change its spots, like people are who they are,

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00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:08,120
Speaker 1: Like I've never believed that. I think that's a cop out.

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Speaker 1: And I feel like there's a lot of there's a

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00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:15,600
Speaker 1: lot of tropes that humans like kind of just repeat

1095
00:58:15,600 --> 00:58:17,760
Speaker 1: but they don't really know the source of So I

1096
00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:19,560
Speaker 1: started reading this book. I can't remember the name of

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00:58:19,560 --> 00:58:21,120
Speaker 1: it right now, but I started reading this book that

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00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:28,760
Speaker 1: basically seeks to reassess what is human nature. And they

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00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:32,040
Speaker 1: talk about how like so much of what we consider

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Speaker 1: to be human nature, like how we say life isn't fair,

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00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:38,520
Speaker 1: how we say like you know, like how we like

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00:58:38,560 --> 00:58:41,920
Speaker 1: people kind of say like greed is a natural human condition.

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00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:44,600
Speaker 1: Like they were like, you know, these are things that

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00:58:44,680 --> 00:58:50,400
Speaker 1: were basically like just written by white people who had

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00:58:50,480 --> 00:58:54,520
Speaker 1: the power to write correct in like the seventeen hundreds,

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00:58:54,520 --> 00:58:56,360
Speaker 1: and then it just got passed down a path down,

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00:58:56,360 --> 00:58:58,680
Speaker 1: a path down the path down, and it's like.

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00:58:58,760 --> 00:58:59,600
Speaker 2: It's not a fact.

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00:58:59,640 --> 00:59:00,320
Speaker 1: You do know that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, oh wow wow wow wow wow wow wow wow. Yeah.

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00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:03,760
Speaker 2: That's that's all great.

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Speaker 1: We have, you know, we have the power to define

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00:59:07,920 --> 00:59:11,440
Speaker 1: and redefine how we want to show up, and I

1114
00:59:11,440 --> 00:59:14,160
Speaker 1: think a lot of times we don't realize that, well,

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00:59:14,200 --> 00:59:16,600
Speaker 1: particularly for women, it is defined like this is how

1116
00:59:16,640 --> 00:59:21,400
Speaker 1: you're supposed to show up, and then you start to realize.

1117
00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:23,520
Speaker 1: But I don't wanna.

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00:59:24,040 --> 00:59:25,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't want to do that. I don't want

1119
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Speaker 2: to show it.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to show that way like I want

1121
00:59:28,120 --> 00:59:30,520
Speaker 1: to wear skirts and also give niggas a dap? Can

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00:59:30,560 --> 00:59:31,080
Speaker 1: I do? Wealth?

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Speaker 2: Can I do? But why? And by the way, that's

1124
00:59:33,640 --> 00:59:36,160
Speaker 2: that is the nature of what I would say about

1125
00:59:36,200 --> 00:59:38,400
Speaker 2: your talent. You do it all, and you do it

1126
00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:40,160
Speaker 2: the way you want to do it, and you can

1127
00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:43,800
Speaker 2: and you can thank you and no one can take

1128
00:59:43,840 --> 00:59:46,000
Speaker 2: that from you. You can and you will. So I

1129
00:59:46,280 --> 00:59:48,400
Speaker 2: support you one hundred percent where can ever you? Okay?

1130
00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:50,880
Speaker 2: So on a Manda verse, will they find tour dates

1131
00:59:50,880 --> 00:59:51,960
Speaker 2: because I know you said you don't.

1132
00:59:52,160 --> 00:59:54,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can go to Amanda Sales dot com. The

1133
00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:57,800
Speaker 1: twenty ninth is October in Brooklyn. I will be in

1134
00:59:57,840 --> 01:00:01,200
Speaker 1: Philly doing stand up on November twelfth. You can catch

1135
01:00:01,240 --> 01:00:03,400
Speaker 1: me in Oakland after that and then I'm closing out

1136
01:00:03,440 --> 01:00:07,600
Speaker 1: the tour in Chicago December, second, third, and fourth. So

1137
01:00:07,840 --> 01:00:10,400
Speaker 1: get your tickets at Amanda seals dot com. And if

1138
01:00:10,440 --> 01:00:12,120
Speaker 1: you want to hear just more of my musings, you

1139
01:00:12,120 --> 01:00:13,720
Speaker 1: want to see behind the scenes footage, you want to

1140
01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:18,160
Speaker 1: see special exclusive series that I'm doing, like my docuseriies

1141
01:00:18,200 --> 01:00:22,040
Speaker 1: Amanda on the Move, or like my commentary series Rebels

1142
01:00:22,080 --> 01:00:25,280
Speaker 1: and Radicals. You can subscribe to the Amanda Verse. It's

1143
01:00:25,320 --> 01:00:28,480
Speaker 1: a universe of Amanda.

1144
01:00:28,240 --> 01:00:28,880
Speaker 2: And I love it.

1145
01:00:29,320 --> 01:00:33,040
Speaker 1: You could subscribe to the Amanda Verse and when you

1146
01:00:33,040 --> 01:00:35,080
Speaker 1: get an annual membership, you get a shirt that says

1147
01:00:35,160 --> 01:00:39,080
Speaker 1: Seal Squad that we're part of it, designed by mow

1148
01:00:39,240 --> 01:00:40,040
Speaker 1: by my hand.

1149
01:00:40,200 --> 01:00:43,760
Speaker 2: I drew it myself. So I love the monetization of

1150
01:00:43,760 --> 01:00:45,919
Speaker 2: it all. Don't give out these musings for free. Because

1151
01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:47,800
Speaker 2: you've given out, You're given out knowledge. It should be

1152
01:00:47,840 --> 01:00:51,919
Speaker 2: paid for. It should be it should be premium, premium.

1153
01:00:51,960 --> 01:00:57,440
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm honestly like working to be just not

1154
01:00:57,640 --> 01:00:58,800
Speaker 1: working harder, but working.

1155
01:01:00,160 --> 01:01:03,520
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, girl, joining join right, yes.

1156
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Speaker 1: Podcast house, ma'am. I mean, I'm I'm hoping to announce

1157
01:01:08,360 --> 01:01:10,600
Speaker 1: something really soon that I think people will really be

1158
01:01:10,720 --> 01:01:11,400
Speaker 1: happy about it.

1159
01:01:11,480 --> 01:01:14,120
Speaker 2: I felt like you were gonna be doing something soon,

1160
01:01:14,160 --> 01:01:15,920
Speaker 2: and I was like, I wonder, will she say something now?

1161
01:01:16,000 --> 01:01:17,400
Speaker 2: I don't know anything, but I just felt like it.

1162
01:01:17,440 --> 01:01:18,840
Speaker 2: I was like, it's just a matter of time. I

1163
01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:24,360
Speaker 2: just you know my okay, same, same, all right, So

1164
01:01:24,800 --> 01:01:27,320
Speaker 2: guess what, guys, we're both waiting on our paperwork. So

1165
01:01:27,400 --> 01:01:29,600
Speaker 2: everybody gets to show. You get to show show. We

1166
01:01:29,640 --> 01:01:39,000
Speaker 2: all got to show, smart, funny and black. I actually,

1167
01:01:39,080 --> 01:01:41,440
Speaker 2: as mentioned in the podcast, happened to do it and

1168
01:01:41,440 --> 01:01:43,760
Speaker 2: gotta be badly. I was bad on my black culture,

1169
01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:45,960
Speaker 2: my black pop culture. You'll forgive me. Got be by

1170
01:01:46,240 --> 01:01:48,840
Speaker 2: Bomani Jones. Shout out to Bomani Jones. But she's on

1171
01:01:48,920 --> 01:01:50,320
Speaker 2: tour and check her out. She told you she was

1172
01:01:50,360 --> 01:01:52,200
Speaker 2: going to be in Atlanta on the fifteenth, although this

1173
01:01:52,240 --> 01:01:54,640
Speaker 2: will have already aired, but she's also in Brooklyn on

1174
01:01:54,640 --> 01:01:57,400
Speaker 2: the twenty ninth, and then she's also on tour she's doing.

1175
01:01:57,440 --> 01:02:00,040
Speaker 2: She's at a couple of comedy clubs in Philly, so

1176
01:02:00,080 --> 01:02:02,560
Speaker 2: you got to go to amanaverse dot com, Amanda Seals

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01:02:02,600 --> 01:02:06,480
Speaker 2: dot com. Check it out. Support her support looks like,

1178
01:02:07,360 --> 01:02:10,040
Speaker 2: I appreciate what you do because I know it's hard

1179
01:02:10,040 --> 01:02:11,600
Speaker 2: to do what you do and if you could do

1180
01:02:11,640 --> 01:02:14,800
Speaker 2: it differently, you would. And honestly, when I meet people

1181
01:02:14,880 --> 01:02:18,040
Speaker 2: like that, who I know it is in there being

1182
01:02:18,400 --> 01:02:21,000
Speaker 2: to be who they are. They're not doing it for effect,

1183
01:02:21,320 --> 01:02:25,720
Speaker 2: for fame, for attention. It is just who they are.

1184
01:02:26,680 --> 01:02:29,640
Speaker 2: And then that other part comes right, that entertainment business

1185
01:02:29,680 --> 01:02:31,520
Speaker 2: side of it will come, but it is who she

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01:02:31,680 --> 01:02:34,560
Speaker 2: is and I am more than willing to support her.

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01:02:34,760 --> 01:02:36,280
Speaker 2: I ask you guys to do the same. That was

1188
01:02:36,280 --> 01:02:38,840
Speaker 2: my elbow cracking again and I guess I gotta get

1189
01:02:38,840 --> 01:02:42,280
Speaker 2: in yoga. Next week, we're back with a new edition

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Speaker 2: of Naked