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Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills. Let's go to the tweet sheet, Steve,

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Speaker 1: the playoffs, you know, and they've been they've been a

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Speaker 1: duo ever since, and uh, you know, Hyde has gotten

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Speaker 1: more recognition. And I think one of the things that

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Speaker 1: maybe holds some Buffalo bill defenders back, Murph is the

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Speaker 1: fact that while their defense was top was an elite

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Speaker 1: defense in this league, top three defense in the league,

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Speaker 1: top two, and a lot of important categories. They're not

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Speaker 1: a spectacular defense, and I've said that a lot before,

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Speaker 1: where you know, they're not getting five turnovers a game. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they're not getting you know, they were a top ten

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Speaker 1: team in sacks, but they got there kind of in

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Speaker 1: the late half of the of the year, right. I mean,

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Speaker 1: they're not getting you know, seventy five sacks during the season,

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Speaker 1: you know, uh, they're not you know, all those turnovers

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Speaker 1: and all those you know, you know, timely interceptions, forced fumbles,

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Speaker 1: all of that stuff, And I think that keeps them

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Speaker 1: off the radar a little bit. But what they are

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Speaker 1: is really hard to move the football on. They're really

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Speaker 1: hard to score points on. Not spectacular. They just kind

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Speaker 1: of let your offense peter out on a drive, right

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Speaker 1: you say, oh, yeah, oh now we got a punt. Right,

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Speaker 1: well we're moving a little Oh we gotta punt. They

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Speaker 1: just do that all the time, and they're not spectacular.

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Speaker 1: That's why guys like Poyer and Hide and those guys

448
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Speaker 1: maybe they don't get recognized because they don't get a

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Speaker 1: ton of turnovers and interceptions and passes, defense, sacks, that

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Speaker 1: kind of thing. But man, oh man, as a group,

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Speaker 1: they're phenomenal. So it's hard to pick out a star

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Speaker 1: to put him in the Pro Bowl for most people, right,

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Speaker 1: And you know, the Pro Bowl is we know what

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Speaker 1: it is. It's it's it's you hate to base everything

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Speaker 1: on the Pro Bowl. But I think you make a

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Speaker 1: really good point about interceptions in the Buffalo defense. And

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Speaker 1: I would just look back in twenty seventeen when Micah

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Speaker 1: Hyde went to the Pro Bowl. He had five interceptions

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Speaker 1: that year, which is a lot. Last year, Jordan Poyer

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Speaker 1: had two interceptions. Year before, four interceptions year before five interceptions.

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Speaker 1: Look a good fast start. Picking the ball off for

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Speaker 1: Jordan Poyer against the first half of the schedule would

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Speaker 1: go a long way to Jordan ensuring him of spotting

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Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl, don't you think. I agree? Yeah, I agree.

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Speaker 1: It's it's about getting in people's consciousness, you know, and

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Speaker 1: people recognizing it, and people fans in the fan vote,

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Speaker 1: it's other players you gotta get in their conscious it's

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Speaker 1: the fan vote is a little bit problematic because you

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Speaker 1: can imagine a small town like Buffalo or Green Bay

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Speaker 1: or a New Orleans, who are the three smallest markets

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Speaker 1: and at Jacksonville against a vote a fan base like

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Speaker 1: the New York Jets, a fan base like the the

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Speaker 1: you know, like the Dallas Cowboys, the Houston Texans, the

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Speaker 1: LA Chargers, you know, uh, these big cities who don't

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Speaker 1: know any other teams except their own. Um, it's it's

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Speaker 1: a problem now. And I don't know if everybody knows.

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Speaker 1: The way it works. Fans all vote, and the fan

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Speaker 1: vote counts as one, and there are three votes for

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Speaker 1: every position. There's a fan vote, a player vote, and

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Speaker 1: a coach's vote, So there's three votes for you know

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Speaker 1: out there for every position on the field. And and

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Speaker 1: that's how it goes. Now. The fans and a big

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Speaker 1: fan bases have a little bit of an edge that way.

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Speaker 1: But if the players and coaches see see it differently,

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Speaker 1: they will carry it the day. And that's that's the

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Speaker 1: way it's been for a long long time. And see,

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Speaker 1: if I don't know, this might be a bizarre question.

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Speaker 1: Do you think there's any funny business in terms of

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Speaker 1: Pro Bowl voting? Like does the league sometimes dictate who

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Speaker 1: goes to the Pro Bowl? I would say no, I

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Speaker 1: don't think so, but people speculate that the fun The

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Speaker 1: funny business for me, I think comes when playing in

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Speaker 1: the team says, listen, we want our we want our

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Speaker 1: wide receiver to go to the Pro Bowl. So we're

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Speaker 1: going to vote for the fourth wide receiver on the

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Speaker 1: other team with another player, so that our vote at least,

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Speaker 1: you know, we can't vote for our own guy, but

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Speaker 1: we're not going to vote for the best guy because

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Speaker 1: we want our guy to go there ahead of him.

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Speaker 1: That's about as funny as you can get. I don't

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Speaker 1: think the league has any interest or benefits in any way,

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Speaker 1: shape or form from doing that, you know, because I don't.

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Speaker 1: I don't think they'd get anything out of it. And

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Speaker 1: one more question about Pro Bowl voting players in particular,

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Speaker 1: and you were your playing days, our mutual friend fred

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Speaker 1: Smerliss used to use like a like a you know,

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Speaker 1: a New York City ward guy. You know, he would

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Speaker 1: get on the phones and organize, Hey, you vote for this,

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Speaker 1: our guy will vote for your guys. Still go on?

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Speaker 1: Do you think? I don't know. I was surprised that

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Speaker 1: it didn't go on that much when I got here.

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Speaker 1: Even with Freddie he'd kind of filmbuster the locker room,

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Speaker 1: but he wasn't. I don't think he was on the

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Speaker 1: phones going around like that. I think I think it

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Speaker 1: had gotten away from that. Plus he had gone to

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Speaker 1: four Pro Bowls at that time and then went to

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Speaker 1: his fifth one after the eighty nine season or eighty

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Speaker 1: eight season maybe, so I don't think he was in

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Speaker 1: that same mindset, And I think the atmosphere was different.

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Speaker 1: Plus every organization handles that voting differently, like the vote,

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Speaker 1: the ballots come in and the you know, for us,

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Speaker 1: it was like, okay, Andre read James Lofton, Don Beebe,

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Speaker 1: Steve Tasker and all the receivers. Here you go. You

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Speaker 1: got you do the team's vote. The players vote for

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00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:53,520
Speaker 1: the dbs, the corners right, the tight ends, you vote

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00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:56,520
Speaker 1: for linebackers and stuff, and the offensive lineman will vote

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Speaker 1: for the linebackers. The running backs will vote for you know.

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Speaker 1: It was that kind of thing. You vote for the

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Speaker 1: guys that you directly played against man to man on

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Speaker 1: certain occasions. And that's how it worked. You know. So

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Speaker 1: because you know, bless our hearts, I don't know who

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Speaker 1: the best offensive guard is for another team. I'm I

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00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:18,760
Speaker 1: was covering kicks, right, So you listen to the guys

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Speaker 1: who actually went face to face with him, and that's

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Speaker 1: how the vote goes. I got you which Bill's player

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Speaker 1: gets his first Pro Bowl now this season? On the

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Speaker 1: tweet sheet brought you by Cargan Moving Systems from Jack,

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Speaker 1: he says, I think all might make it, but I

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Speaker 1: voted the other I think Ed Oliver, despite his issue

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Speaker 1: over the weekend, is poise for a breakout year and

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Speaker 1: will become a dominant force in the middle of the

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00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:40,440
Speaker 1: Bill's defensive line against both the run and the past.

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Speaker 1: He showed flashes as a rookie in year two. He

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Speaker 1: will take over. Not a bad not a bad thought.

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Speaker 1: That could happen. Unfortunately, he may have to wait a

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Speaker 1: month during the season to get you get a chance

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Speaker 1: to do it. That won't help. He's out alster more.

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Speaker 1: That won't help all. I'm gonna take a break and

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Speaker 1: then resume this discussion and anything else. If you'd like

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Speaker 1: to talk about something, give us a call three five

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Speaker 1: fifty outside Buffalo toll free one eight eight eight five

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Speaker 1: fifty two five fifty Which Bills players gets his first

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Speaker 1: Pro Bowl nod this season? And why give us a

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Speaker 1: call out? And that give us a call on whatever

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00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:12,920
Speaker 1: you want to talk about. Hey, no show this Friday,

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00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:15,840
Speaker 1: No show next Monday. As One Bill's Live takes off

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00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 1: to observe the Memorial Day holiday, so be aware of that.

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Speaker 1: You got something to talk about now, it's the time

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Speaker 1: to do it now in tomorrow. We're on tomorrow as well.

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Speaker 1: Come on back for more. One Does Live, presented by

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Speaker 1: Collid to Health. This is Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome back

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Speaker 1: one goes Vodcom Murphy's Team Casker. We're here until tree today.

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Speaker 1: Bill Polling coming by at one and Dominique Foxworth coming

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Speaker 1: by at two. Got an interesting Twitter poll. Which Bills

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00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:44,800
Speaker 1: player is going to make it to the Pro Bowl

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Speaker 1: this time for the first time, first time ever? And

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00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:49,960
Speaker 1: why we offer you three suggestions. Josh Allen forty two

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Speaker 1: percent of you say he's the one. Stefan Diggs believe

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Speaker 1: it or not, he's never made it to Pro Bowl.

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00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:57,679
Speaker 1: Thirty four percent say he's the one. Jordan Poyer nineteen

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Speaker 1: percent say he'll get the Pro Bowl nod. What do

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Speaker 1: you think? Eight fifty toll free one eight eight eight

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Speaker 1: five fifty two five fifty full nine is wide open

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Speaker 1: if you want to talk about that right now, Let's

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00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:09,320
Speaker 1: go back to the tweet sheet. Steve brought here by

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Speaker 1: Corrigan Moving Systems, the official movers of the Buffalo Bills.

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Speaker 1: To the question which which Bill's player is going to

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00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:18,280
Speaker 1: make it to the Pro Bowl for the first time either,

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00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:21,600
Speaker 1: Tiffany says, contrary to all of his naysayers, that strongly

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00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:24,240
Speaker 1: believe Josh Alan is on the verge of becoming a

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Speaker 1: star in the league. His physical gifts, along with his

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00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:29,680
Speaker 1: willingness to give his all to win, will shine the season.

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00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:32,600
Speaker 1: With four prime time games, he will have an opportunity

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Speaker 1: to showcase his immen's talent. Well, what a really good

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00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:37,280
Speaker 1: point that is, Steve. The primetime games, that's where you

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Speaker 1: put on put on a show for the Pro Bowl,

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00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:41,760
Speaker 1: right for fans. Yeah, that's a good point. Remember when

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Speaker 1: we when the schedule came out, I said, that's one

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Speaker 1: of the playing in that number of primetime games. And

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Speaker 1: then plus if you're good enough after playing in those

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Speaker 1: primetime games, they got four games that are kind of

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Speaker 1: standalone at the end of the season. Murph, if if

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Speaker 1: they play well in those games and they go to

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Speaker 1: the playoffs and play well. And I remember saying it

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Speaker 1: because that's the guys I played with when Bruce, Jim

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00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 1: Thurman and Andre became household names. That's how it happens.

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00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 1: You get on TV. Everybody sees you, they hear your name,

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00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:16,080
Speaker 1: they see you play, and they feel like they know you.

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00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:19,239
Speaker 1: Now you're part of their fernakia. You're there, You're part

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00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:21,640
Speaker 1: of the conversations they have, even if they're not fans

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00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:24,080
Speaker 1: of your team. And that's how it happens. You get

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00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:27,080
Speaker 1: on those big games like that, and all of a

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00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:29,760
Speaker 1: sudden they vote for you. Say who's it? Oh yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm will vote for him. They even they know your name,

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00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:34,040
Speaker 1: they know who you play for, and they know what

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00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:36,760
Speaker 1: position you play. And that's how you get votes for

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Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl. Yeah, and those prime time games will

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00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 1: mean a lot for Josh Allen. And the other point

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Speaker 1: that Tiffany makes is well taken to two. Josh comes

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Speaker 1: through big and big games. I mean the most part

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Speaker 1: he does big national games, he's on the stage. He

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00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:53,400
Speaker 1: usually comes through. I don't want to say it too

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00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:56,680
Speaker 1: too often, but you and I talk about it consistently.

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Speaker 1: Last year, when the lights come on, Josh rises up.

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00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 1: He's got that in him, right, Yeah. And I just

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Speaker 1: think it's a I just think it's really one of

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Speaker 1: his pretty cool attributes that we've seen on a pretty

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Speaker 1: consistent basis, and I don't know. It just makes it

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Speaker 1: fun to look forward to those moments. Yeah, let us know.

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Speaker 1: Do you think give us a call eight three fifty

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Speaker 1: fifty Yeah, a tweet cheat, Steve, give us another one?

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Speaker 1: Yeah from a guy named Jello. He says, I have

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Speaker 1: a strong feeling this year we're gonna have several players

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Speaker 1: have their first Pro Bowl, including at least two of

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Speaker 1: the three listed in your poll. I choose Alan, but

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Speaker 1: I'd be surprised if Diggs isn't there as well. If

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Speaker 1: Josh makes it. I also see a few defensive players

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Speaker 1: making it, and that makes a lot of sense too.

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Speaker 1: If Josh Allen has a big year, Steph Diggs has

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Speaker 1: a big year, right yep, And if the team has

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Speaker 1: big success, maybe you know, both those guys kind of

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Speaker 1: get the nod. Right. That makes a lot of sense. Yep.

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Speaker 1: You know the name is not ane list defensive player

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Speaker 1: Matt Mulatto. I mean he I think would be poised

636
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Speaker 1: to make an impact. And again, it'll come down to

637
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:05,400
Speaker 1: a couple of interceptions, a couple of big plays maybe

638
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 1: on the National League televised games and all of a sudden,

639
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:10,680
Speaker 1: Matt Milano has a legitimate and likely shot to make

640
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:13,520
Speaker 1: a Pro Bowl right that. Yeah, when he got hurt

641
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 1: was at last year two years ago, people were talking

642
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 1: about like, man, Matt, Wow, he's really playing well. And

643
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:23,120
Speaker 1: I remember it was written about the team after one

644
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:25,480
Speaker 1: of the games that Matt Milano is playing in a

645
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:29,560
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl level. And one of the reasons it is because,

646
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 1: and credit the coaching staff for this, he's playing in

647
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:37,120
Speaker 1: a spot that really speaks to his physical abilities. He's

648
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:40,880
Speaker 1: in past. He's great in space, he rushes the passer

649
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 1: pretty well, and he also is great in coverage. You

650
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:45,440
Speaker 1: can think of a lot He's got a lot of

651
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:50,240
Speaker 1: passes defense. Teams don't really throw the football at him.

652
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:52,560
Speaker 1: When they do, he's there. You know, he makes plays

653
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 1: on the ball in the passing game, and his ability

654
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 1: to do both that means get after the quarterback when

655
00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:01,360
Speaker 1: he's called upon, and also in coverage. You can't get

656
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:04,920
Speaker 1: him off the field in today's NFL, right, And the

657
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 1: more snaps you play, the more chances you have of

658
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:11,080
Speaker 1: doing something. And he's got the abilities to do that.

659
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:16,720
Speaker 1: And you know that's I can see easily Matt Malonell

660
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 1: having that kind of year. We know he could be

661
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 1: on that list. Two give us a call. Let's talk

662
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 1: about an eight three five fifty and toll free from

663
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 1: outside Buffalo one eight five two, Let's talk about this.

664
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:30,120
Speaker 1: Our buddy, Eric Wood, color analyst down the Bills Radio Network,

665
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:33,719
Speaker 1: has a podcast, What's Next with Eric Wood, and he

666
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 1: reached out to his old buddy Ryan Fitzpatrick, coach of

667
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 1: the or coach quarterback for the Miami Dolphins. For his

668
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 1: recent episode of What's Next with Eric Wood. Fitz talked

669
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:47,000
Speaker 1: about he's excited about this coming year. He's glad they

670
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:50,440
Speaker 1: took two o'tella vloa, but Fitzpatrick told Eric Wood he

671
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 1: still wants to play. Here's what he said. Definitely entertaining

672
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:58,640
Speaker 1: the thought the last few seasons, or at least yeah,

673
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 1: you know, up until twenty sixteen, my last year at

674
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:06,240
Speaker 1: the Jets, I'd never even thought about it. I wasn't

675
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:09,040
Speaker 1: in my mind. After twenty sixteen, which was such a

676
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 1: brutal rough season for me, not physically but mentally and emotionally,

677
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:16,240
Speaker 1: that was the first year I just had to start

678
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 1: thinking like, is it is it worth it for me?

679
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 1: Is it worth it for my family to put them

680
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 1: through this because, like you alluded to earlier, moving every

681
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:28,120
Speaker 1: single year, as the kids are getting older, as somehow

682
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:31,080
Speaker 1: we keep getting more kids. I mean, it just it

683
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 1: becomes more and more difficult to do. But I still

684
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:39,239
Speaker 1: just had this burning desire to play, you know. And

685
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:41,280
Speaker 1: then when I was in a position where when I

686
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 1: signed with Tampa, I signed as the backup, and I

687
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:49,000
Speaker 1: just I felt like there was more there. There was

688
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 1: more left, Like I didn't know what I was gonna

689
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:52,720
Speaker 1: do with all this knowledge that I had built up.

690
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 1: I still wanted to play the game, but didn't necessararily

691
00:33:55,840 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 1: know if I'd have that opportunity again. So every year

692
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 1: I kind of reassessed and think about it, and like

693
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:08,120
Speaker 1: I still like last year. Last year may have been

694
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 1: my best season in terms of, you know, all the

695
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 1: obstacles that we had faced, the adversity, other things that

696
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:18,839
Speaker 1: we went through throughout the season, and what we did

697
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 1: at the tail end of the season. Like ive you,

698
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:25,839
Speaker 1: last year as such a success for the Miami organization

699
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:31,880
Speaker 1: and what we were able to do and improve throughout

700
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:33,879
Speaker 1: that season and the last game of the year beat

701
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:36,719
Speaker 1: in New England and must win for them in Foxborough,

702
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:39,960
Speaker 1: to me, that was such a successful season, one that

703
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 1: I'm so proud of, but it just leaves me like

704
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:45,759
Speaker 1: wanting more, Like I want to still play, I want

705
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 1: to still be out there. He's thirty eight years old,

706
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:56,239
Speaker 1: oldest player on the Dolphins roster. And by the way,

707
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:58,560
Speaker 1: what does he mean somehow I don't know how this happens.

708
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:02,920
Speaker 1: We keep having more kids. Yeah, I think you know

709
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:05,799
Speaker 1: how it happens. Yeah, I think he knows exactly how

710
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:07,880
Speaker 1: it happens. But it starts to get it starts to

711
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 1: become a you know, they do have a ton of kids.

712
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:12,360
Speaker 1: I mean, they got more kids than I do. And

713
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:17,840
Speaker 1: so it becomes a consideration for him, no question. And

714
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:22,400
Speaker 1: I do get what he means. After a really tough season.

715
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 1: I think every player, particularly after they've played more than

716
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:30,680
Speaker 1: a handful of years, they get to that point where, gosh,

717
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:32,440
Speaker 1: you know, you get you get weary with it. At

718
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 1: the end of that season, it didn't go well. There

719
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:36,239
Speaker 1: was all kinds of problems. You don't know if they're

720
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:38,240
Speaker 1: going to be able to fix those problems. You really

721
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:40,839
Speaker 1: don't want to go through another season like that, and

722
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 1: you have to convince yourself over the course of the

723
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:44,760
Speaker 1: off season or a few weeks of the off season

724
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:47,440
Speaker 1: or however long it takes that it's going to be

725
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 1: different this next year with that team. And once that happens,

726
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 1: then you're ready to play and you can you can

727
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:53,920
Speaker 1: put it back down through on the field. But I

728
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:56,879
Speaker 1: get it too, and the guys you're you know, it's

729
00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 1: a long, long career he's had, and a ton of

730
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 1: different teams, eight different teams. But there are moments, like

731
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 1: he said with the win against New England and when

732
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 1: the New England really needed to win that game, there

733
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:12,960
Speaker 1: are moments that make it worth it. And those are

734
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 1: the ones you put your faith in. Dolphins won just

735
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:18,799
Speaker 1: five games last year, and they won three of their

736
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:21,840
Speaker 1: last five. They won their last two, beating the Bengals

737
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 1: and beating uh, the Patriots. As you said, I guess

738
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 1: they made steps forward, and I guess I know that's

739
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:30,120
Speaker 1: a good way to finish. I think Fitz takes a

740
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 1: lot out of that. It sounds like he took a

741
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 1: lot out of the way they finished, Steve and I

742
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 1: get it right. I mean, he's a competitor and competitor

743
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:37,759
Speaker 1: and when they win their last two and beat the

744
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:39,959
Speaker 1: Patriots in the process, he probably feels very good about

745
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:44,320
Speaker 1: that he's not only a competitor Murphy's, he's a born leader.

746
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 1: You know, he's a guy that you want to rally around.

747
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:48,359
Speaker 1: Guys want to join up with him, you know, they

748
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:50,279
Speaker 1: want to they want to be on his team, and

749
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 1: he empowers them to do it right. So you can

750
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:58,840
Speaker 1: tell that kind of mentality is genuine with him. And

751
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:01,440
Speaker 1: that's I think Harry, that's what carried him to a

752
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:04,840
Speaker 1: long and really nice career in the certainly lucrative career

753
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 1: in the NFL, is that kind of mindset. And I

754
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 1: think it's the reason it works for him when he

755
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:12,719
Speaker 1: doesn't have all these abilities like Josh Allen has. The

756
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:14,960
Speaker 1: reason it works for him because it's genuine, Yeah, and

757
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:17,360
Speaker 1: that's that's what's carried him through and made him a success.

758
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 1: Ryan Fitzpatrick on with Eric Wood on Eric's What's Next

759
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:22,920
Speaker 1: with Eric Wood Podcasts and they did draft too of

760
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 1: Taga Bayoloa, and despite that, fitz says he's excited that

761
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:29,440
Speaker 1: they took Tagaboloa, but he still wants to play. Here's

762
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:32,840
Speaker 1: what Ryan Fitzpatrick said. I'm really excited. I'm excited that

763
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:35,480
Speaker 1: they drafted him. Like I'm excited because I in watching

764
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 1: him played Alabama. Like he looks like he's a pretty

765
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:41,840
Speaker 1: dynamic talent just in meeting him a few times. Like

766
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 1: he seems like an unbelievable kid, a great head on

767
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 1: his shoulders, like says the right things, wants to do

768
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 1: the right things. So like for me, I'm his biggest

769
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 1: cheerleader right now, but I also want to be out

770
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 1: there to play. You know, I also want to be

771
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 1: on the field. And that's kind of why I'm still

772
00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 1: doing it, because I still enjoyed playing the game. Um

773
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:03,719
Speaker 1: So hopefully some of the lessons I'm able to teach

774
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:05,799
Speaker 1: him or him watching him play. But if it's the

775
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:08,719
Speaker 1: other way around, you know, I'm going to do my

776
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:13,279
Speaker 1: best to help him succeeding. Ryan Fitzpatrick, he's he was

777
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:16,560
Speaker 1: about Eric Wood's h what's next with Eric Wood podcasting?

778
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 1: That's the right way to approach it, I think, right, Steve, Yeah,

779
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:20,719
Speaker 1: I want to play. I'll help him succeed, but I

780
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:22,839
Speaker 1: want to play. That's I guess that's a professional way

781
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:26,240
Speaker 1: to look at it, right, That's that's FITs' greatest gift.

782
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:28,280
Speaker 1: If you want to know how a pro athlete should

783
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:31,439
Speaker 1: handle a situation, watch him handle it. Um, he does

784
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:34,279
Speaker 1: it right. All the time. And the reason he's been

785
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:36,239
Speaker 1: so successful is because he doesn't have to put on

786
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:39,360
Speaker 1: anything right. It's who he is and that's it's a

787
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:41,480
Speaker 1: real testament to his career and how well he's been

788
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:44,880
Speaker 1: liked at every stop along that career and the success

789
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:48,839
Speaker 1: he's had within each stop. So, um, it's great to hear.

790
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:50,959
Speaker 1: I know two attack of Vlo is going to reap

791
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 1: a ton of benefits from watching and playing with and

792
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:56,920
Speaker 1: being a teammate with Ryan Fitzpatrick. It's not that great

793
00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 1: for Bills fans because two is going to be a

794
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 1: better quarterback with Ryan Fitzpatrick is his teammate, and that

795
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 1: you know that spells problems for the rest of the division.

796
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 1: So if you want to hear more, you can listen

797
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 1: to Eric Woods podcast wherever you get your podcast, What's

798
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:12,919
Speaker 1: Next with Eric Wood, And he's had on a great

799
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:15,600
Speaker 1: down line up. Sean mcdermot's gonna be on next Monday

800
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:18,320
Speaker 1: with Eric Wood. When he said Brandon Bean on, Fred Jackson,

801
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:20,719
Speaker 1: Stevie Johnson, a lot of Eric reaching back to some

802
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:22,840
Speaker 1: of his old teammates and get their thoughts on things.

803
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:26,319
Speaker 1: What's Next with Eric Wood podcasts, He's up right now

804
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:29,759
Speaker 1: with Ryan Fitzpatrick and coming up Monday, he'll be with

805
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 1: Bill's head coach Sean McDermott. All right, we'll take a

806
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 1: break and then we're back to our Twitter poll. What

807
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 1: do you think who's going to be a first time

808
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 1: pro bowler this year? For the Buffalo Bills, we got

809
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:39,879
Speaker 1: full nines wide open at eight oh three oh five,

810
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:42,719
Speaker 1: fifty toll free one eight eight eight five fifty two

811
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:45,480
Speaker 1: five fifty one Bills Live present about collid to health.

812
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:56,160
Speaker 1: This is Buffalo Bills for you. Welcome back John, if

813
00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 1: you see task her here until three o'clock today. Bill

814
00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:01,480
Speaker 1: Polian's coming by at one and Domini Fox were coming

815
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:04,359
Speaker 1: by at two. And yes, Steve, you have a question. Yes,

816
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:05,879
Speaker 1: and you reach your hand. I don't know what you're

817
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 1: gonna I don't know what you were playing on talking

818
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 1: about whatever you want, man, but I got I gotta

819
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:12,720
Speaker 1: tell you. Yesterday we had the short conversation about him, Betted.

820
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:14,320
Speaker 1: I did watch it. I went ahead and watched it.

821
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 1: I couldn't wait till oh, yeah, I gotta watch that. Yeah,

822
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:19,840
Speaker 1: I was. Yeah, it's pretty good. It's pretty good. I

823
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:22,640
Speaker 1: it's like everything, It's like the stuff we liked about

824
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:26,280
Speaker 1: the draft, but and more of it, the human side

825
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:29,759
Speaker 1: of it, the kid the families of the players, some

826
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 1: of the interview stuff where the guys talked, and how

827
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:34,960
Speaker 1: about how they reacted to the Bills. What kind of

828
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:37,480
Speaker 1: questions the Bills asked these guys, which I you know,

829
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:39,640
Speaker 1: sometimes I think that's pretty interesting about what the how

830
00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:41,480
Speaker 1: the Bills want to find out about these guys and

831
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:45,320
Speaker 1: what questions they asked to do that. Um, it's pretty interesting.

832
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:47,440
Speaker 1: And and it's only you know, like I said, it's

833
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:50,160
Speaker 1: only twelve minutes long, and I went in and watched it,

834
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 1: and it really is It makes me feel It reminds

835
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:55,440
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Murph, It reminds me of

836
00:40:55,680 --> 00:41:00,160
Speaker 1: why I like this football team, this coaching, to have

837
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:02,759
Speaker 1: this front office, the scouting staff. It reminds me of

838
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:04,840
Speaker 1: why I have so much confidence in the upcoming season.

839
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:08,279
Speaker 1: What kind of questions were they asking? They're like, they're

840
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 1: like asking one of them. I don't know, I don't

841
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:13,239
Speaker 1: know which which draft pick it was, but they said,

842
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:16,759
Speaker 1: you know, what's something you don't like about football? You

843
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:19,400
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Uh, questions like that are pretty

844
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 1: insightful and it's and it's um, some of the things

845
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 1: they had Eric Washington on the new defensive line coach.

846
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:27,760
Speaker 1: He was talking to a Japanessa while they were watching films.

847
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Speaker 1: Some of the conversations they had and why Eric Washington

848
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Speaker 1: liked him, and it was like some of the things

849
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:35,440
Speaker 1: that Brandon Bean said under his breath when he's watching

850
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 1: these guys run their forties at at the combine and

851
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:43,760
Speaker 1: he's like cheering for these guys to run slow. Okay,

852
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 1: you he wants everybody to hate these guys because he

853
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:50,480
Speaker 1: loves them. You know. Uh, It's pretty fun stuff like

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Speaker 1: that in the human side, plus the you know, the

855
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:54,480
Speaker 1: uh this, you know, all the stuff was a lot

856
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:56,759
Speaker 1: of it was done remotely around the draft and so

857
00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:58,880
Speaker 1: it was pretty interesting. And that was and it was

858
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 1: obviously like they do a really nice job putting all

859
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:04,239
Speaker 1: that together. Are the crew that does the embedded they're

860
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:06,560
Speaker 1: really good. They're they're real pros, and they make it.

861
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:08,640
Speaker 1: It's all polished and it looks really good. So it

862
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:11,240
Speaker 1: was fun to see and you can see it listeners.

863
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 1: You can watch it tonight starting at seven o'clock embedded

864
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:16,959
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty Draft Becoming a Bill. It's available tonight

865
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:19,840
Speaker 1: seven o'clock on YouTube. You've watch it on YouTube on

866
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:22,040
Speaker 1: the Bill's YouTube channel, starting at seven o'clock. What do

867
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 1: you say, twelve minutes songs? It's like, yeah, it's twelve

868
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:27,759
Speaker 1: minutes long. It's like a couple of commercial breaks. Okaya,

869
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:29,800
Speaker 1: it really I don't know why. I totally forgot about it.

870
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:31,719
Speaker 1: We talked about it yesterday. I totally forgot about it

871
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:34,080
Speaker 1: last night. Yeah, but ahead I kind of did too.

872
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:37,760
Speaker 1: But because it's not like you know, the Last Dance,

873
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 1: it's like five hour long episte. You know, ten two

874
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:43,880
Speaker 1: hour episodes right now, you know it's ten episodes and

875
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 1: they're an hour long apiece. It was not. It's not

876
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:48,319
Speaker 1: like that, so it's hard to keep it on your mind.

877
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 1: I've forgotten about it. But it's really good. I was.

878
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:53,360
Speaker 1: I was happy about it. That's happy. I watched it embedded.

879
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:55,920
Speaker 1: Catch it tonight seven o'clock. It's a bailable on the

880
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:58,719
Speaker 1: Bill's YouTube channel. Phone Line's open eight o three five

881
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Speaker 1: fifty and twelve three one eight eight five fifty two

882
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:04,759
Speaker 1: five fifty. The question is, of course, uh, what do

883
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:07,080
Speaker 1: you think which Bill's player is likely to make a

884
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:09,319
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl for the first time in twenty twenty. You've

885
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:11,480
Speaker 1: got Josh Allen at forty three percent of the votes.

886
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:14,239
Speaker 1: Stefan Diggs gets thirty three percent of the boats. Jordan

887
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:16,719
Speaker 1: Poyer he gets a nineteen percent of the boats. That's

888
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:18,560
Speaker 1: not all though. You can vote wherever you like. Eight

889
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:20,719
Speaker 1: oh three oh five fifty two will make their first

890
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl in twenty twenty. Tim says on the tweet sheet, says,

891
00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:28,880
Speaker 1: I'm saying both Josh and Stephant and more on the

892
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:32,759
Speaker 1: tweet sheet from Artie other Devin Singletary now starting and

893
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:35,239
Speaker 1: is a running and receiving weapon. He started a lot

894
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:37,560
Speaker 1: last year. But you mentioned him, Steve. I mean, he's

895
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 1: it'll be a breakout year for Singletary, but I wouldn't

896
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:42,839
Speaker 1: put it past him. He could do that, right, Yeah,

897
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 1: Because to be very honest with you, Murph, it's young

898
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:50,840
Speaker 1: running backs who make the Pro Bowl, Yeah right. You

899
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:54,560
Speaker 1: know the old guys, you know, they don't make him

900
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:57,480
Speaker 1: because you know, you just can't put the production. Now,

901
00:43:57,520 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 1: there's the young guys. There's the fresh legs that kind of,

902
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 1: you know, knock the world out. You know, it's the

903
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:06,160
Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey's, it's it's it's those guys, the young Levy

904
00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:09,520
Speaker 1: on Belts, the young Todd Gurley. It's the young um

905
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:15,400
Speaker 1: guys that kind of catch your eye. So Devin Singletary

906
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:17,480
Speaker 1: certainly falls into that, and so does you know, so

907
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 1: does Zach Moss for that for that matter. But sure,

908
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:23,200
Speaker 1: I think it's the young guys, and Barkley is still

909
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:25,800
Speaker 1: a young guy. So I think it's those guys who actually,

910
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:28,400
Speaker 1: you know, kind of catch the world by storm because

911
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:31,160
Speaker 1: of you know, the nature and the brutality of their

912
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:34,759
Speaker 1: position kind of lends itself to that. Right, take a

913
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 1: phone call on this topic, Anthony and Rochester. Hello, Anthony

914
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:40,719
Speaker 1: are on the air. Well, thank you, guys, big fan

915
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:45,160
Speaker 1: of the show. Uman think I think it's gonna be

916
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:48,239
Speaker 1: something weird like Dawston Knox are cold easily now that

917
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:50,920
Speaker 1: you have a Stefan Diggs that can basically take all

918
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:53,600
Speaker 1: the pressure off those little passes. I think they can

919
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 1: rack up a ton of numbers and a ton of touchdowns.

920
00:44:57,320 --> 00:45:00,640
Speaker 1: That's it is weird. H And those are two names

921
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 1: we haven't heard before, but those are plausible, you know, basily. Look,

922
00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 1: we said it earlier, Steven, even after this acquisition of

923
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:10,400
Speaker 1: Stefan Diggs, I think at the end of the year COLBASI,

924
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:12,800
Speaker 1: he's gonna lead the team in receptions among the wide receivers,

925
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:15,480
Speaker 1: don't you. I do, really yeah, I think he's gonna.

926
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Speaker 1: I think he'll two things. One he's got a chance

927
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:22,000
Speaker 1: to lead him in receptions, and two he's got a

928
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:24,560
Speaker 1: chance to lead him in targets as well. You know

929
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:27,600
Speaker 1: what I mean. I think he's gonna have a higher

930
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 1: percentage of targets. His passes are going to be high percentage,

931
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 1: and I think he's gonna catch a higher percentage of

932
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:36,800
Speaker 1: his targets and lead the team in the receptions for

933
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:40,239
Speaker 1: that reason, because of the nature of the position and

934
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:42,959
Speaker 1: the way Brian day Ball has used it. I also

935
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 1: think I still think too that Josh is gonna spread

936
00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:47,960
Speaker 1: it around all the more. He was really good in

937
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 1: the intermediate passing game, and I think he's got to

938
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 1: work on all of those things, and I think he

939
00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:54,120
Speaker 1: is working on so I think you're gonna see some

940
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:58,359
Speaker 1: improvement in those areas where he was really deficient last year,

941
00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 1: like the long ball, uh and the completion percentage. I

942
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:05,080
Speaker 1: think he's going to continue to really concentrate on that,

943
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:07,600
Speaker 1: and because he works hard at it, and because he's

944
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:09,799
Speaker 1: worked on those aspects of his game, and he's working

945
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:12,160
Speaker 1: on him, You're gonna see an improvement in those places.

946
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:15,040
Speaker 1: So it'll be interesting to see how the other individuals

947
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:17,120
Speaker 1: on the offense the receipt, mainly the receivers and the

948
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:20,200
Speaker 1: tight ends. Who's gonna benefit from it and who's gonna

949
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:23,920
Speaker 1: maybe not benefit from it. So I think you can

950
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:26,319
Speaker 1: conjure up a lot of scenarios as the how it's

951
00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:30,320
Speaker 1: gonna play out. But Dawson Knox and Cole Beasley, certainly

952
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:32,880
Speaker 1: you can see in that mix. Yep. All right, we're

953
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:34,919
Speaker 1: gonna break and we come back. Bill Pauli and former

954
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:37,359
Speaker 1: Bills general manager, Pro Football Hall of Famer will join

955
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:39,320
Speaker 1: us live on the line, So come on back for

956
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:42,120
Speaker 1: that One Bill's Live, presented by Kalida Health. This is

957
00:46:42,160 --> 00:47:07,839
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill's Radio. Oh time, Steve Faster Bust Bust, I'm

958
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:10,279
Speaker 1: back going number two, John Murphy's Team Tsker. It's one

959
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:12,440
Speaker 1: Bill Slide. We're here until three o'clock today, two more

960
00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:16,280
Speaker 1: hours to go. God Dominique Foxworth. ESPN analyst Dominique Foxworth

961
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:18,600
Speaker 1: coming up with two variety of things to talk about

962
00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:20,839
Speaker 1: with him and in a moment, and he's on right now,

963
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 1: with us see Pro Football Hall of Famer Bill's general

964
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:25,839
Speaker 1: manager m eighty six to ninety two. He's the host

965
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 1: of the new podcast Inside Football with Bill Polian, a podcast.

966
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:33,000
Speaker 1: He's a former ESPN front office analyst. Our buddy Bill

967
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:35,120
Speaker 1: Polian joined us right now. Hey Bill, how are you

968
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:38,719
Speaker 1: doing good? Murph? How are you good? I'm here with

969
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:41,239
Speaker 1: Steve Tasker and we're both excited about talking to you today.

970
00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:44,080
Speaker 1: We hope everything's going well with you and your family. Hey, Billy,

971
00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:48,120
Speaker 1: everything everything's fine. Hi, how you doing? Everything's great? Thanks

972
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:50,399
Speaker 1: for coming home with us. We're having you on. One

973
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:52,080
Speaker 1: of the reasons we've got you on is because you're

974
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:55,799
Speaker 1: once again. Why I thought you retired, man, you're going

975
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:59,319
Speaker 1: back to work and doing a podcast. Good for you? Well, yeah,

976
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:04,120
Speaker 1: I do. And uh. And then some guys that I've

977
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 1: worked with previously said to me, you know, why don't

978
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:08,440
Speaker 1: why don't you why don't we do this podcast? And

979
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:11,120
Speaker 1: I said, well, all right, I'll try it. And it

980
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:14,120
Speaker 1: turns out to be fun and uh and hopefully be

981
00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 1: a project that be interesting to fans and we can

982
00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:20,919
Speaker 1: supply some inside information on how the sausage is made

983
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:24,480
Speaker 1: in the NFL and and talk about issues that that

984
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:27,800
Speaker 1: crop up in some depth. That's, you know, harder to

985
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:31,440
Speaker 1: do when you're in a different format. So thus far

986
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:34,200
Speaker 1: it's been fun and I'm looking forward to it. Podcast

987
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:37,160
Speaker 1: is Inside Football, would Bill Pauli in available on iTunes

988
00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:39,880
Speaker 1: and any of the other places that you download a podcast.

989
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:41,680
Speaker 1: I was saying to Steve Bill in our first hour

990
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 1: we're talking about this. You have a unique resume, really,

991
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:48,200
Speaker 1: you know, get a scout in the league and other leagues,

992
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:50,920
Speaker 1: a general manager or a club president, you worked in

993
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:53,160
Speaker 1: the league office. There's a variety of things you can

994
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:55,239
Speaker 1: call upon to kind of fill that out. You've got

995
00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 1: had so many varied experiences. Huh, yes, it is. And

996
00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:01,719
Speaker 1: you know I've uh, you know, you can look at

997
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 1: it two ways. I've done a lot of things during

998
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:05,400
Speaker 1: my career. The other thing is I couldn't hold a

999
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:10,200
Speaker 1: job for very long unfortunately, Uh it worked out okay.

1000
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:14,080
Speaker 1: And I do have a tremendous breadth of experience in

1001
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:17,400
Speaker 1: addition to having served for twenty years on the Competition

1002
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:21,280
Speaker 1: Committee and and and heading up the College Relations Committee.

1003
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:25,239
Speaker 1: So I've got a wide range of experience that in

1004
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:30,000
Speaker 1: certainly in this day and age um gives some you know,

1005
00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:32,600
Speaker 1: I have some experience that I can share with people,

1006
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:35,440
Speaker 1: and and and that's fun. You know, it's always good.

1007
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:38,359
Speaker 1: And you can learn from the issues of the past too.

1008
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:44,440
Speaker 1: None of these go ahead. I'm sorry, ahead, Bill, go ahead, Bill, sorry. Uh.

1009
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:48,239
Speaker 1: You know, coronavirus is new, but we we've also had

1010
00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:55,120
Speaker 1: situations like the lockout of eleven, the dearly departed replacement

1011
00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 1: season in in in eighty seven that all, uh, you know,

1012
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:02,280
Speaker 1: lead back into some of the problems that the NFL's

1013
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:05,000
Speaker 1: facing now. So I've been around long enough that I

1014
00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:08,240
Speaker 1: can speak to those issues. Yeah, you have been around

1015
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:11,840
Speaker 1: a long time. It's going back even further than me. So,

1016
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:15,719
Speaker 1: and I was on a text loop with all the

1017
00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:19,239
Speaker 1: usual suspects from back in those Bills days. They all

1018
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:21,160
Speaker 1: said to say hello, They all have a great deal

1019
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:24,239
Speaker 1: of affection for you. You have got a wealth of experience,

1020
00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:25,719
Speaker 1: and a lot of us are a part of it.

1021
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:29,080
Speaker 1: What are some of them? The way it stands now,

1022
00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:31,000
Speaker 1: the NFL is ever changing, and that's one of the

1023
00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:34,640
Speaker 1: things that's so popular about it. It stays fresh and relevant,

1024
00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:37,640
Speaker 1: and even in this Corona pandemic, it's been a little

1025
00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:41,799
Speaker 1: bit the center of attention. Even though from guys like Murphy. Right,

1026
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:45,799
Speaker 1: nothing's going on. They've kind of plowed through their offseason

1027
00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:48,440
Speaker 1: and not miss to be what's been the most interesting

1028
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:52,680
Speaker 1: aspect of this offseason that's been so different. Well, I

1029
00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:55,719
Speaker 1: think the fact that they did to draft so well

1030
00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:59,279
Speaker 1: is really a tribute to everybody that was involved in

1031
00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:02,879
Speaker 1: that and especially the IT guys who who helped make

1032
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:07,880
Speaker 1: that work. That was an interesting experiment and it worked

1033
00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:10,200
Speaker 1: very well, and I think it came at a time

1034
00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:14,360
Speaker 1: when the nation and particularly sports fans need a needed

1035
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:16,719
Speaker 1: a break from the bed news. So we got we

1036
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:20,560
Speaker 1: got a you know, a breadth of good news. And

1037
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:25,080
Speaker 1: in addition to that, uh, it was done very well. Um.

1038
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:28,839
Speaker 1: The other thing is that, Uh, now I think we're

1039
00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:33,359
Speaker 1: we're back to the future. With one small exception. When

1040
00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:37,719
Speaker 1: you came into the league, Steve, we just had mini camps, right,

1041
00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:41,360
Speaker 1: I mean, we didn't have off season programs. We started

1042
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:44,680
Speaker 1: our offseason program with the Bills a couple of years

1043
00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:49,440
Speaker 1: after you came so uh and it certainly weren't OTAs

1044
00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:52,520
Speaker 1: or anything like that. So now we're back in that million.

1045
00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:56,799
Speaker 1: With one exception, we've got virtual meetings going on, uh,

1046
00:51:57,480 --> 00:51:59,960
Speaker 1: and so that's helping the players I think get up

1047
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:04,200
Speaker 1: to speed. The question will be what physical condition are

1048
00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:06,640
Speaker 1: they in? And we had a lot of clubs now

1049
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:12,239
Speaker 1: conducting virtual lifting and conditioning sessions, so that's probably a

1050
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:15,920
Speaker 1: good thing. I'm anxious. I'm going to be anxious to

1051
00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:19,400
Speaker 1: see when we do come back what condition the players

1052
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:23,520
Speaker 1: are in. But I think that we'll find out based

1053
00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:28,160
Speaker 1: on the injury rates going forward, some really interesting things

1054
00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:32,080
Speaker 1: as to what we should do about modifying OTAs. If anything,

1055
00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:34,960
Speaker 1: Now we lose players and ots every year, which as

1056
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:37,200
Speaker 1: a GM used to drive me crazy when a guy

1057
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:41,560
Speaker 1: got hurt OTAs. That's a needless injury. But yet you

1058
00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:45,239
Speaker 1: know guys did every year, So maybe maybe there's a

1059
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:49,480
Speaker 1: different way to approach this. And as they say, necessity

1060
00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:52,520
Speaker 1: is always the mother of invention, So we'll learn some

1061
00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:55,720
Speaker 1: things from it. Live on the Line with Pro Football

1062
00:52:55,719 --> 00:52:58,320
Speaker 1: Hall of Famer Bill Polly and his Inside Football with

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00:52:58,400 --> 00:53:00,600
Speaker 1: Bill Polly and podcast is coming up. Hey, Bill, you

1064
00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:02,480
Speaker 1: know what I've never talked to you about, I don't think,

1065
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:05,040
Speaker 1: is how you got to the bills. We talked about

1066
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:07,400
Speaker 1: your varied experience, and I know you you've done a

1067
00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:09,520
Speaker 1: couple of years as a scout with Kansas City. Then

1068
00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:11,879
Speaker 1: you went to the Canadian Football League. But who brought

1069
00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:15,080
Speaker 1: you to the Buffalo Bills? Was it Norm Pollam? Was

1070
00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:17,560
Speaker 1: it Terry Bledsoe, the generalman? And here what got you

1071
00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:20,200
Speaker 1: to the Buffalo Bills back in the mid eighties. It

1072
00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:24,440
Speaker 1: was a combination of things. It was Norm Pollam and

1073
00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:30,440
Speaker 1: Don Lawrence, who was the was a defensive coordinator. And

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00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:33,120
Speaker 1: I'm a little vague on some of the details, to

1075
00:53:33,239 --> 00:53:37,440
Speaker 1: be honest with you. The Bills had just hired probably

1076
00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:40,840
Speaker 1: the previous spring. I came in in the fall of

1077
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:46,719
Speaker 1: eighty four. In the previous spring, they had hired a

1078
00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:50,719
Speaker 1: pro personnel director, the first person they'd ever had specialized

1079
00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:58,040
Speaker 1: in pro personnel. And and so he apparently suffered a

1080
00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:03,840
Speaker 1: very debilitating back injury that kept him from working thin

1081
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:06,239
Speaker 1: His home was in Illinois in place, and he was

1082
00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:09,560
Speaker 1: he was forced to go back there and couldn't work

1083
00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:13,000
Speaker 1: any longer. And of course, in those days, mister Wilson

1084
00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:19,440
Speaker 1: counted every nickel, and and so they were really worried

1085
00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:24,399
Speaker 1: about could they refill the position because this gentleman, I guess,

1086
00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:29,520
Speaker 1: was still on disability. So um they decided to interview

1087
00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:36,360
Speaker 1: for the position, and so Norm Pollam called his daughter, Debbie,

1088
00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:41,000
Speaker 1: who was an administrative assistant with the Chicago Blitz of

1089
00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:43,359
Speaker 1: the USFL, and said, you know, is there anybody there,

1090
00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:46,399
Speaker 1: um that might fill the bill? And she said, yeah,

1091
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:52,040
Speaker 1: Bill Pollian, who's our acting GM. So that's how my

1092
00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:55,719
Speaker 1: name got put forth. And at the same time Case Stevenson,

1093
00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:59,160
Speaker 1: who was the head coach, was also searching around for

1094
00:54:59,239 --> 00:55:01,960
Speaker 1: a candidate. Don Lawrence came to him. Don Lawrence and

1095
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:04,040
Speaker 1: I had worked together with the Kansas City chiefs, and

1096
00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:06,600
Speaker 1: he said, I got just a guy for you, um

1097
00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:12,800
Speaker 1: Bill Polly. And so they they interviewed me, um in

1098
00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:16,440
Speaker 1: I think over the phone. If I'm not mistaken, no,

1099
00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:19,360
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I came into bokwore for an interview, but

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00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:21,400
Speaker 1: it was kind of subrosa. We did it at the

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00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:24,480
Speaker 1: McKinley Park inn because anyone anybody know that they were

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00:55:24,520 --> 00:55:27,879
Speaker 1: looking to fill a position. And uh and then UH

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00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:35,120
Speaker 1: along about oh the third preseason game the Bills were

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00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:38,360
Speaker 1: playing in Indianapolis. Of course I was based in Chicago

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00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:41,759
Speaker 1: at the time with the with the Blitz and UH

1106
00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:47,200
Speaker 1: and UH. The President, the president occupant of the White House,

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00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:51,279
Speaker 1: had decided that the USFL was going to play in

1108
00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:57,840
Speaker 1: in the fall and UH and sue the NFL, and

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00:55:58,040 --> 00:56:03,560
Speaker 1: so the USFL was dormant. But still we had just

1110
00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:08,920
Speaker 1: been bought by Eddie Ironhorn and Jerry Ristoff who owned

1111
00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:11,000
Speaker 1: the Chicago Bulls and White Sox. So I was in

1112
00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:15,359
Speaker 1: the process of trying to get that all set up

1113
00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:18,480
Speaker 1: and running. And so they brought me down into the

1114
00:56:18,719 --> 00:56:22,200
Speaker 1: interview in Indianapolis, and I spent some time with Kay

1115
00:56:22,239 --> 00:56:25,760
Speaker 1: and spent some time with Terry Bloodsoe, the general manager.

1116
00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:29,919
Speaker 1: And then about a week or so later, they called

1117
00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:32,120
Speaker 1: me back and said, what we'd like to hire you.

1118
00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:35,840
Speaker 1: And the salary was considerably less than what I was

1119
00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:39,520
Speaker 1: making in Chicago with the Blitz, but because it was

1120
00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:43,840
Speaker 1: the NFL, obviously, I said to my family, let's go

1121
00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:46,560
Speaker 1: and we'll say we'll make it work somewhere or another.

1122
00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:51,480
Speaker 1: So I got to work in U in Buffalo, and

1123
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Speaker 1: and then was Kay told me said, listen, if mister

1124
00:56:55,560 --> 00:57:01,919
Speaker 1: Wilson comes around, just make yourself scared because he doesn't

1125
00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:09,200
Speaker 1: know we filled the position. It's amazing, you know what

1126
00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:13,120
Speaker 1: It strikes me also about that story is your ascensionto

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00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:16,240
Speaker 1: power in Buffalo. I mean, within two years you're hiring

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Speaker 1: a head coach who happened to be a guy you

1129
00:57:18,080 --> 00:57:20,360
Speaker 1: worked with in Kansas City. And what do you know.

1130
00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:22,560
Speaker 1: You know, twenty five years later you're both on the

1131
00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:25,520
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. It's pretty amazing story. Well, it is

1132
00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:27,480
Speaker 1: an amazing story. And the funny part of it is

1133
00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:31,920
Speaker 1: that that I laid low for the better part of

1134
00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:36,280
Speaker 1: about two and a half months because I was I

1135
00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:40,560
Speaker 1: was the advanced scout. I was out every Sunday scouting

1136
00:57:40,680 --> 00:57:45,440
Speaker 1: the upcoming opponent. And then we had a Monday night

1137
00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:50,800
Speaker 1: game with the Dolphins, and so I was in the

1138
00:57:50,920 --> 00:57:54,800
Speaker 1: building because I'd gotten back from my assignment on Sunday,

1139
00:57:55,280 --> 00:57:58,360
Speaker 1: and I was walking out to to go up to

1140
00:57:58,400 --> 00:58:00,760
Speaker 1: the press box before the game and boom, my bump

1141
00:58:01,120 --> 00:58:05,760
Speaker 1: smack dab into mister Wilson. I didn't know what to

1142
00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:12,760
Speaker 1: say produced myself, and he said, I know who you are,

1143
00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:20,760
Speaker 1: Tidmerc Groner told me he did. Hied, so he said,

1144
00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:25,120
Speaker 1: I'm not mad at you. So that was the start

1145
00:58:25,160 --> 00:58:31,120
Speaker 1: of a beautiful friendship. Well yeah, and it went on

1146
00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:33,320
Speaker 1: from there. And not only that, you're one of the

1147
00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:36,760
Speaker 1: few got you. Your experience is so vast. You were

1148
00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:39,040
Speaker 1: obviously the executive of the Year or the Buffalo with

1149
00:58:39,200 --> 00:58:41,160
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills, you went to you spent a year

1150
00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:42,920
Speaker 1: in the league office, then you went to Carolina and

1151
00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:47,160
Speaker 1: you built that franchise. What was the difference? And I

1152
00:58:47,280 --> 00:58:49,439
Speaker 1: know that you were kind of part of the crew

1153
00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:55,080
Speaker 1: that outlined the new rules for expansion franchises when Carolina

1154
00:58:55,160 --> 00:58:58,720
Speaker 1: and Jacksonville came in the league. And then um, I

1155
00:58:58,800 --> 00:59:01,520
Speaker 1: got a call you on you've benefited from those rules

1156
00:59:01,600 --> 00:59:04,360
Speaker 1: because two years after you started the Carolina franchise, you

1157
00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:06,720
Speaker 1: were in the NFC Championship game. Tell us about how

1158
00:59:06,840 --> 00:59:08,800
Speaker 1: you thought how important you thought it was to give

1159
00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:11,840
Speaker 1: those franchises a good start compared to the way it

1160
00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:15,320
Speaker 1: was beforehand, when it took years and years for Tampa

1161
00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:19,280
Speaker 1: Bay to become relevant. Yeah, that's right. Commissioner Tagli Boo

1162
00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:21,840
Speaker 1: and the owners believed that it was going to be

1163
00:59:22,040 --> 00:59:26,760
Speaker 1: really important for those teams to become reasonably competitive early.

1164
00:59:27,320 --> 00:59:29,600
Speaker 1: And in Carolina it was even more important because we

1165
00:59:29,720 --> 00:59:31,880
Speaker 1: had to sell PSLs. We're the first team to have

1166
00:59:32,040 --> 00:59:34,920
Speaker 1: PSLs and it was the only way to fund the stadium,

1167
00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:38,280
Speaker 1: so we had to be competitive right away. So I

1168
00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:41,640
Speaker 1: sat down with Mike McCormick, who was our team president,

1169
00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:44,160
Speaker 1: and Dom Capers, who was the head coach, and we said, look,

1170
00:59:44,160 --> 00:59:47,800
Speaker 1: we got an opportunity here to build this team through

1171
00:59:47,880 --> 00:59:53,160
Speaker 1: free agency that's never been done before because they created

1172
00:59:53,200 --> 00:59:58,760
Speaker 1: a rule that said that the contracts that you inherited

1173
00:59:59,280 --> 01:00:04,200
Speaker 1: through the UH player Allocation formula, the veteran player Allocation formula,

1174
01:00:04,960 --> 01:00:08,280
Speaker 1: would count dollar for dollar and then the rest was

1175
01:00:08,480 --> 01:00:11,080
Speaker 1: free to be spent under the salary cap. However you

1176
01:00:11,160 --> 01:00:13,800
Speaker 1: were suspended. I was part of the group that had

1177
01:00:13,920 --> 01:00:17,560
Speaker 1: negotiated and created the salary cap, so I knew what

1178
01:00:17,640 --> 01:00:22,160
Speaker 1: the engine outs were, and so we said, let's take

1179
01:00:22,560 --> 01:00:25,800
Speaker 1: the lowest possible contracts we can in the expansion Draft

1180
01:00:26,520 --> 01:00:29,080
Speaker 1: so that we had the widest possible latitude to sign

1181
01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:32,000
Speaker 1: free agents. So that's what we did, and we had

1182
01:00:32,080 --> 01:00:37,000
Speaker 1: a team that was constructed basically a really good veteran

1183
01:00:37,080 --> 01:00:40,760
Speaker 1: free agents we signed. The first free agent we signed

1184
01:00:40,800 --> 01:00:43,240
Speaker 1: was John Casey, the kicker, who ended up playing sixteen

1185
01:00:43,320 --> 01:00:48,560
Speaker 1: years I think. And we populated the defense with really

1186
01:00:48,640 --> 01:00:52,680
Speaker 1: good veteran players who could play non system, which was

1187
01:00:54,080 --> 01:00:56,400
Speaker 1: still you see it with Pittsburgh. It's his own bullet

1188
01:00:56,480 --> 01:01:02,200
Speaker 1: stipe system. And we became UH competitive right away because

1189
01:01:02,200 --> 01:01:05,600
Speaker 1: of the defense. And then we built the offense somewhat

1190
01:01:05,640 --> 01:01:09,800
Speaker 1: through the draft with Carry Collins and Tamonga, Biakabatuca and

1191
01:01:09,880 --> 01:01:13,720
Speaker 1: Moose and Muhammad and and some good offensive lineman. But

1192
01:01:14,000 --> 01:01:17,720
Speaker 1: but we added uh Wesley Walls the following year from

1193
01:01:17,920 --> 01:01:21,160
Speaker 1: the New Orleans Saints Saints as a free agent who

1194
01:01:21,680 --> 01:01:25,800
Speaker 1: who really put us over the top. And and so

1195
01:01:26,000 --> 01:01:30,800
Speaker 1: the second year we went to the NFC Championship game

1196
01:01:30,840 --> 01:01:33,480
Speaker 1: and lost to Green Bay, who was the eventual Super

1197
01:01:33,520 --> 01:01:37,320
Speaker 1: Bowl winner in Green Bay. Um, but there was a

1198
01:01:37,440 --> 01:01:40,720
Speaker 1: flaw in the plan which we knew. Many of the

1199
01:01:40,760 --> 01:01:43,120
Speaker 1: players that we got were on the back side of

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01:01:43,160 --> 01:01:46,240
Speaker 1: their career. Is Sam Mills is a prime example. UM

1201
01:01:46,480 --> 01:01:48,600
Speaker 1: And and as as a result, the team was going

1202
01:01:48,640 --> 01:01:51,880
Speaker 1: to have to be rebuilt through the draft. H and

1203
01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:56,959
Speaker 1: management never quite ownership never quite got that they wanted

1204
01:01:57,000 --> 01:02:01,880
Speaker 1: to continue that that policy. But you can't. You can't

1205
01:02:01,920 --> 01:02:06,640
Speaker 1: continually populate your team with free agents because sooner although

1206
01:02:06,680 --> 01:02:08,320
Speaker 1: you're going to run out of cap money. And that's

1207
01:02:08,520 --> 01:02:12,960
Speaker 1: exactly what happened with Bill Polian, pro Football Hall of Famer.

1208
01:02:13,040 --> 01:02:15,640
Speaker 1: His Inside Football with Bill Polian podcast is coming up.

1209
01:02:15,680 --> 01:02:20,520
Speaker 1: Hy Bill, you mentioned your brief stint with the NFL,

1210
01:02:20,600 --> 01:02:23,080
Speaker 1: and you worked under Paul Taglibu who and some people

1211
01:02:23,160 --> 01:02:25,400
Speaker 1: think it's overdue that he is finally now getting into

1212
01:02:25,400 --> 01:02:28,160
Speaker 1: the Pro Football Hall of Fame. Tell me about Paul

1213
01:02:28,200 --> 01:02:31,560
Speaker 1: taglebou and you're I don't know your thoughts on a

1214
01:02:31,680 --> 01:02:34,760
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame credentials. Why does he belong in the hall? Well,

1215
01:02:34,840 --> 01:02:38,880
Speaker 1: he is long, long and long overdue. All of the

1216
01:02:40,280 --> 01:02:44,080
Speaker 1: all of the tremendous prosperity that the NFL has now,

1217
01:02:45,760 --> 01:02:51,840
Speaker 1: television ratings, record revenues, all of the ascension as without

1218
01:02:52,240 --> 01:02:56,200
Speaker 1: question the number one sport in America, all of that

1219
01:02:56,640 --> 01:03:00,440
Speaker 1: is due to Paul taglia Boo. When he became commissioner,

1220
01:03:00,560 --> 01:03:03,600
Speaker 1: we were at war with the Players Association. We had

1221
01:03:03,640 --> 01:03:08,480
Speaker 1: had a disastrous replacement season in nineteen eighty seven. We

1222
01:03:08,600 --> 01:03:11,640
Speaker 1: had people in power in the NFL who were trying

1223
01:03:11,720 --> 01:03:16,080
Speaker 1: to break the players Union, and Paul saw that as

1224
01:03:16,160 --> 01:03:19,960
Speaker 1: a prescription for failure, and so he came in. He

1225
01:03:20,120 --> 01:03:23,400
Speaker 1: re established himself as the head of the NFL Management Council,

1226
01:03:23,560 --> 01:03:27,240
Speaker 1: engaged Gene Upshaw, the head of the Players Union, in

1227
01:03:27,760 --> 01:03:31,880
Speaker 1: a four year dialogue to try and create a new

1228
01:03:32,000 --> 01:03:35,520
Speaker 1: system to give the players free agency, which is one

1229
01:03:35,600 --> 01:03:38,880
Speaker 1: thing that they were absolutely would would would not. We

1230
01:03:39,040 --> 01:03:42,800
Speaker 1: lent on and and they actually were in court and

1231
01:03:43,000 --> 01:03:47,320
Speaker 1: got it in court, and through the collective bargaining process

1232
01:03:47,440 --> 01:03:51,000
Speaker 1: we smoothed it out. We put in a salary cap

1233
01:03:51,120 --> 01:03:54,760
Speaker 1: which allowed teams like Buffalo to survive. The Buffalo Bills

1234
01:03:54,800 --> 01:03:57,200
Speaker 1: would not be in Buffalo today or not for the

1235
01:03:57,280 --> 01:04:00,240
Speaker 1: salary cap. And that's one of the reason since he

1236
01:04:00,280 --> 01:04:05,360
Speaker 1: appointed me to the committee that tried to or actually

1237
01:04:05,440 --> 01:04:09,960
Speaker 1: did create it, because he recognized that the small markets

1238
01:04:10,360 --> 01:04:14,000
Speaker 1: had to have a voice, and without a salary cap,

1239
01:04:14,120 --> 01:04:17,040
Speaker 1: the big markets New York, Chicago, Los Angeles, with just

1240
01:04:17,240 --> 01:04:21,040
Speaker 1: Miami would would just gobble up all the talent if

1241
01:04:21,080 --> 01:04:24,360
Speaker 1: there was free agency. He convinced Jean to do it

1242
01:04:24,560 --> 01:04:28,440
Speaker 1: because he was sincere and honest, had been an athlete

1243
01:04:28,520 --> 01:04:32,480
Speaker 1: at Georgetown, a great athlete at Georgetown. Jean respected that

1244
01:04:32,680 --> 01:04:36,560
Speaker 1: he spoke an athlete's language. Steve heard him speak in

1245
01:04:36,640 --> 01:04:39,520
Speaker 1: front of the team. I mean, he's magnificent in that regard.

1246
01:04:39,880 --> 01:04:42,600
Speaker 1: He's one of the smartest people I've ever met in

1247
01:04:42,680 --> 01:04:45,960
Speaker 1: my life. But more importantly, I've met few people and

1248
01:04:46,120 --> 01:04:50,600
Speaker 1: have his integrity. If Paul Tagleybud tells you that he's

1249
01:04:50,600 --> 01:04:52,200
Speaker 1: going to do something he's going to do it, you

1250
01:04:52,280 --> 01:04:54,920
Speaker 1: can take it to the bank. And Jean realized that,

1251
01:04:55,680 --> 01:04:59,800
Speaker 1: and together they worked to create what would amount to

1252
01:05:00,600 --> 01:05:05,320
Speaker 1: twenty five years of labor, peace and nothing but growth.

1253
01:05:06,600 --> 01:05:10,560
Speaker 1: Sunday Night Football came came into being, we added the

1254
01:05:10,640 --> 01:05:14,840
Speaker 1: Fox Network. All of that would never have been possible

1255
01:05:15,360 --> 01:05:18,960
Speaker 1: had we not reached the agreement we did in nineteen

1256
01:05:19,080 --> 01:05:22,680
Speaker 1: ninety three and created the system that still exists today.

1257
01:05:23,240 --> 01:05:25,960
Speaker 1: One of the many things that Paul did that speaks

1258
01:05:25,960 --> 01:05:28,920
Speaker 1: to integrity, I'll give you two. One that's in the

1259
01:05:29,040 --> 01:05:33,000
Speaker 1: news right now, the Runey rule. That was brand new.

1260
01:05:33,000 --> 01:05:36,560
Speaker 1: It had never been tried before in sports, and despite

1261
01:05:36,600 --> 01:05:39,880
Speaker 1: the fact that we've had some setbacks recently, every other

1262
01:05:40,080 --> 01:05:46,680
Speaker 1: sport in the world adopted it. Secondly, we did, almost

1263
01:05:46,840 --> 01:05:51,960
Speaker 1: right out of the box, a steroid policy which remains

1264
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Speaker 1: in effect today and which is the gold standard for

1265
01:05:55,280 --> 01:06:00,320
Speaker 1: steroid policies around the world in every sport. And you

1266
01:06:00,360 --> 01:06:03,280
Speaker 1: see what happens in Olympics, you see what happens in baseball.

1267
01:06:03,760 --> 01:06:07,200
Speaker 1: We don't have those problems because our policy, it was

1268
01:06:07,600 --> 01:06:12,400
Speaker 1: put together by players and management, Jane and Paul, and

1269
01:06:12,920 --> 01:06:18,040
Speaker 1: it's never stained our sports. So you know that's only

1270
01:06:18,840 --> 01:06:20,920
Speaker 1: the tip of the iceberg. I could go on forever

1271
01:06:21,520 --> 01:06:25,000
Speaker 1: in terms of the things that he did, instant replay, etc. Etc.

1272
01:06:25,400 --> 01:06:29,760
Speaker 1: But that alone, the Runey rule alone and it's effect

1273
01:06:30,840 --> 01:06:37,800
Speaker 1: on sports worldwide, is qualification enough to get him in

1274
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Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame. And fortunately he's now made it,

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Speaker 1: and I'm looking very much forward whenever it takes place

1276
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Speaker 1: to a great celebration and welcoming him to Canton. Aside

1277
01:06:50,440 --> 01:06:53,960
Speaker 1: from the obvious, which is the COVID nineteen pandemic, which

1278
01:06:54,000 --> 01:06:56,640
Speaker 1: sits on the you know, on everybody's doorstep these days,

1279
01:06:56,760 --> 01:06:59,200
Speaker 1: what is the front and center issue you think the

1280
01:06:59,320 --> 01:07:03,280
Speaker 1: NFL's got address next? Is it? You know, outside this

1281
01:07:03,480 --> 01:07:05,640
Speaker 1: pandemic and this season that may or may not be

1282
01:07:05,800 --> 01:07:09,120
Speaker 1: condensed all of that, but on a larger scale, if

1283
01:07:09,120 --> 01:07:11,600
Speaker 1: everything was off the table with the pandemic, what's the

1284
01:07:11,720 --> 01:07:13,640
Speaker 1: next issue for the NFL that you feel they've got

1285
01:07:13,720 --> 01:07:17,480
Speaker 1: to address. I think there's two major areas. One is

1286
01:07:18,640 --> 01:07:22,840
Speaker 1: updating the Rooney rule and minority hiring. We're essentially way

1287
01:07:23,000 --> 01:07:26,320
Speaker 1: behind the times and behind the eight ball and hiring

1288
01:07:27,200 --> 01:07:31,320
Speaker 1: minority head coaches, and our record has gone downhill in

1289
01:07:31,400 --> 01:07:34,760
Speaker 1: the last couple three years, and we need to improve that,

1290
01:07:35,120 --> 01:07:37,800
Speaker 1: and I'm still serving on a committee that tries to

1291
01:07:39,080 --> 01:07:42,760
Speaker 1: help that forward, and I think we'll make some progress there.

1292
01:07:44,080 --> 01:07:47,320
Speaker 1: And that's true of all places that It's true of scouting,

1293
01:07:47,440 --> 01:07:50,400
Speaker 1: it's true of management positions. We got to do a

1294
01:07:50,520 --> 01:07:56,439
Speaker 1: better job in terms of bringing diversity to the four

1295
01:07:56,600 --> 01:08:00,280
Speaker 1: in the National Football League. And then the other thing

1296
01:08:00,480 --> 01:08:04,920
Speaker 1: is that we need to use technology and all of

1297
01:08:04,960 --> 01:08:08,720
Speaker 1: the resources that it brings that we've seen during this

1298
01:08:09,560 --> 01:08:13,840
Speaker 1: COVID time. UM to injuries, We've got to do a

1299
01:08:14,040 --> 01:08:20,200
Speaker 1: better job of diagnosing of preventing injuries, and I think

1300
01:08:20,360 --> 01:08:24,040
Speaker 1: with the use of technology and big data, we can

1301
01:08:24,200 --> 01:08:28,320
Speaker 1: do it. And that will do more to help players

1302
01:08:29,360 --> 01:08:32,960
Speaker 1: and help the quality the game than anything, because, um,

1303
01:08:33,280 --> 01:08:35,200
Speaker 1: you know, the longer you can play, the longer you

1304
01:08:35,280 --> 01:08:39,479
Speaker 1: can make good money. And whenever we have our best

1305
01:08:39,560 --> 01:08:44,759
Speaker 1: players on the field, we put out a tremendous product

1306
01:08:44,880 --> 01:08:50,960
Speaker 1: that people absolutely love, So that doing that makes sense

1307
01:08:51,040 --> 01:08:54,880
Speaker 1: for players and for fans and for coaches alike. So

1308
01:08:55,680 --> 01:08:58,760
Speaker 1: that's something that to me would be project one if

1309
01:08:58,840 --> 01:09:01,760
Speaker 1: I were he and if I were a GM, I

1310
01:09:01,960 --> 01:09:06,080
Speaker 1: want to get moving on injury prevention, injury diagnosis and

1311
01:09:06,240 --> 01:09:10,000
Speaker 1: prevention quickly. We led the We led the league with

1312
01:09:11,240 --> 01:09:14,120
Speaker 1: Rusty Jones and our strength and conditioning program and the

1313
01:09:14,200 --> 01:09:19,280
Speaker 1: way Marv got our teams ready to play, and part

1314
01:09:19,360 --> 01:09:21,519
Speaker 1: of our success, the reason we went to four straight

1315
01:09:21,600 --> 01:09:25,160
Speaker 1: Super Bowls was because we managed that so well. We

1316
01:09:25,280 --> 01:09:28,160
Speaker 1: need to bring that approach and even more science to

1317
01:09:28,320 --> 01:09:31,800
Speaker 1: it on a league wide basis. Bill polly and Is

1318
01:09:31,840 --> 01:09:35,040
Speaker 1: hosted The Inside Football with Bill polly And podcast. And Bill,

1319
01:09:35,080 --> 01:09:38,479
Speaker 1: I understand that the first edition of your podcast deals

1320
01:09:38,479 --> 01:09:40,479
Speaker 1: with one of the most meaningful decisions you had to

1321
01:09:40,520 --> 01:09:42,560
Speaker 1: make when you were with the Colts, Ryan Lee for

1322
01:09:42,640 --> 01:09:46,679
Speaker 1: Peyton Manning. What can you tell us about that? Well,

1323
01:09:47,200 --> 01:09:49,600
Speaker 1: thank god we picked the right guy, number one, no

1324
01:09:49,760 --> 01:09:54,360
Speaker 1: question about that. I often said, I've been parking cars

1325
01:09:54,400 --> 01:09:57,479
Speaker 1: outside look at Royal Stadium. If we've made if we

1326
01:09:57,640 --> 01:10:02,720
Speaker 1: made the wrong choice. Uh. I think people will be

1327
01:10:03,479 --> 01:10:08,599
Speaker 1: interested in the process how we started out at ground

1328
01:10:08,720 --> 01:10:12,400
Speaker 1: zero with a basically a fifty fifty split on the

1329
01:10:12,479 --> 01:10:16,880
Speaker 1: scouting staff fifty percent Peyton fifty percent Ryan and then

1330
01:10:17,000 --> 01:10:22,479
Speaker 1: went forward to try and and arrive at the correct decision.

1331
01:10:22,640 --> 01:10:26,400
Speaker 1: So that the podcast takes the listeners through all of

1332
01:10:27,120 --> 01:10:30,360
Speaker 1: that process and and explain some of the things that

1333
01:10:30,800 --> 01:10:35,320
Speaker 1: people I don't think really see about how scouting a

1334
01:10:35,439 --> 01:10:38,640
Speaker 1: player and making that decision is done, because what you

1335
01:10:39,960 --> 01:10:44,080
Speaker 1: to be very basic about it. When you're watching or

1336
01:10:44,160 --> 01:10:47,960
Speaker 1: listening to radio and television, you're seeing the analysts rank

1337
01:10:48,080 --> 01:10:51,679
Speaker 1: the players one through three hundred and thirty six. That's

1338
01:10:51,760 --> 01:10:53,960
Speaker 1: just the opposite of how we actually do it in

1339
01:10:54,040 --> 01:10:58,839
Speaker 1: the league. We we rank them by round and by position,

1340
01:11:00,880 --> 01:11:04,639
Speaker 1: both horizontally and vertically, and so it's a much more

1341
01:11:04,840 --> 01:11:09,000
Speaker 1: nuanced process than you'll let to believe in television. People

1342
01:11:09,360 --> 01:11:11,599
Speaker 1: do not rock it up and down the draft boards

1343
01:11:11,600 --> 01:11:17,519
Speaker 1: as you as you're frequently here uh during during draft time,

1344
01:11:17,600 --> 01:11:21,640
Speaker 1: there are no u There are late risers, but they

1345
01:11:21,720 --> 01:11:23,479
Speaker 1: don't rock it up and down the boards, and they

1346
01:11:23,520 --> 01:11:27,560
Speaker 1: don't come from from nowhere. Uh. Actually, the most the

1347
01:11:27,680 --> 01:11:31,200
Speaker 1: most accurate board, and we tested this in Indianapolis with

1348
01:11:31,280 --> 01:11:33,840
Speaker 1: about twenty five years at data, is the one that

1349
01:11:33,920 --> 01:11:36,719
Speaker 1: the scouts put up in December when when the college

1350
01:11:36,760 --> 01:11:43,080
Speaker 1: season ends. What are the way the league is structured now?

1351
01:11:43,120 --> 01:11:45,479
Speaker 1: And you built the Bill's team of the nineties that

1352
01:11:45,600 --> 01:11:47,320
Speaker 1: we went to four straight Super Bowls and had some

1353
01:11:47,479 --> 01:11:50,120
Speaker 1: at least a little bit of sustained success, And now

1354
01:11:50,240 --> 01:11:52,519
Speaker 1: you've seen We've seen New England with Tom Brady and

1355
01:11:52,560 --> 01:11:56,559
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick have twenty years of sustained success. And you've

1356
01:11:56,600 --> 01:11:58,320
Speaker 1: seen now in Buffalo. I don't know if you've been

1357
01:11:58,360 --> 01:12:01,840
Speaker 1: paying attention, but and I know you have that Sean

1358
01:12:01,960 --> 01:12:05,040
Speaker 1: McDermott and Brandon Bean have started to build something they

1359
01:12:05,200 --> 01:12:08,280
Speaker 1: think they can continue to be successful with down the road.

1360
01:12:08,360 --> 01:12:11,400
Speaker 1: How difficult is it? Why don't more Why are not

1361
01:12:11,600 --> 01:12:17,040
Speaker 1: more teams able to sustain longevity, long term success like

1362
01:12:17,520 --> 01:12:20,720
Speaker 1: the Patriots and like those old nineties Bills, teams like

1363
01:12:21,120 --> 01:12:23,519
Speaker 1: even the Dallas Cowboys teams of the nineties as well,

1364
01:12:23,680 --> 01:12:26,000
Speaker 1: teams that did it from the ground up and then

1365
01:12:26,160 --> 01:12:28,640
Speaker 1: kept it going for quite some time. How why is

1366
01:12:28,640 --> 01:12:34,760
Speaker 1: it so hard? Well, the Patriots and ourselves in Indianapolis were,

1367
01:12:34,960 --> 01:12:38,480
Speaker 1: and the Steelers to a large extent are the exceptions.

1368
01:12:40,080 --> 01:12:45,600
Speaker 1: And the reason is because we had a distinct we

1369
01:12:46,280 --> 01:12:50,640
Speaker 1: I'm meaning those three franchises had a distinct philosophy of

1370
01:12:50,760 --> 01:12:55,320
Speaker 1: how to do things and a detailed roadmap in terms

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01:12:55,520 --> 01:13:00,280
Speaker 1: of how to carry out that philosophy. Most teams in

1372
01:13:00,280 --> 01:13:04,599
Speaker 1: the NFL jump around from pillar to post. We hired

1373
01:13:04,640 --> 01:13:08,800
Speaker 1: a disciplinary coach, a hard nosed guy. Next time we're

1374
01:13:08,840 --> 01:13:12,840
Speaker 1: going to hire a players coach. These are the hot

1375
01:13:12,880 --> 01:13:16,439
Speaker 1: assistants that are out there. Let's hire one of those guys.

1376
01:13:16,600 --> 01:13:20,080
Speaker 1: Let's win the press conference. That's exactly the wrong way

1377
01:13:20,120 --> 01:13:25,720
Speaker 1: to approach it, and taking nothing away from the Patriots.

1378
01:13:25,760 --> 01:13:28,720
Speaker 1: I've said four years that Bill Belichick is in a

1379
01:13:28,800 --> 01:13:31,560
Speaker 1: class by himself and preparing his team and coaching the

1380
01:13:31,680 --> 01:13:34,640
Speaker 1: game on Sunday and doing all the things that it

1381
01:13:34,720 --> 01:13:38,400
Speaker 1: takes to build a winning franchise. But for many of

1382
01:13:38,439 --> 01:13:42,599
Speaker 1: those twenty years, actually until with a brief run by

1383
01:13:42,640 --> 01:13:45,280
Speaker 1: the Jets for a couple of years, and then now

1384
01:13:45,439 --> 01:13:50,719
Speaker 1: with Buffalo with Sean and Brandon Sending, they really haven't

1385
01:13:50,720 --> 01:13:54,880
Speaker 1: anybody to challenge him, so that if you can win

1386
01:13:54,960 --> 01:13:58,800
Speaker 1: the division, you know you're in pretty good shape playoff wise.

1387
01:13:59,080 --> 01:14:01,720
Speaker 1: Taking nothing to win, that's part of it. We were

1388
01:14:01,760 --> 01:14:05,240
Speaker 1: in the very same boat in Indianapolis in the early years.

1389
01:14:05,320 --> 01:14:09,000
Speaker 1: Once we've got good, Houston never really challenged us. Only

1390
01:14:09,080 --> 01:14:12,360
Speaker 1: Tennis Seat did, so it was it was Jacksonville for

1391
01:14:12,400 --> 01:14:14,800
Speaker 1: a while, but we had a pretty good lock on

1392
01:14:14,880 --> 01:14:18,000
Speaker 1: the division. And when you can do that, that really helps,

1393
01:14:18,640 --> 01:14:22,200
Speaker 1: really helps you you get into the playoffs and get

1394
01:14:22,439 --> 01:14:27,000
Speaker 1: positioning in the playoffs, which is important seating. Having said that,

1395
01:14:28,479 --> 01:14:32,800
Speaker 1: let's look at the Bills today. They're built with a

1396
01:14:33,080 --> 01:14:38,280
Speaker 1: very solid philosophical core. One, they're going to play great defense,

1397
01:14:39,160 --> 01:14:44,960
Speaker 1: very important in any division, but much more important in

1398
01:14:45,720 --> 01:14:50,040
Speaker 1: the division the Bills are in than many of the others. Secondly,

1399
01:14:51,280 --> 01:14:53,839
Speaker 1: they're going to be really good taking care of the football.

1400
01:14:54,920 --> 01:14:59,599
Speaker 1: Third they're going to play with guys that are good,

1401
01:14:59,720 --> 01:15:04,000
Speaker 1: care arter, hard working guys that buy into the program,

1402
01:15:04,160 --> 01:15:07,439
Speaker 1: that do what Sean wants them to do, and they

1403
01:15:07,520 --> 01:15:12,600
Speaker 1: don't deviate from that blueprint. Sound familiar, It's exactly what

1404
01:15:12,800 --> 01:15:16,639
Speaker 1: we did in a good old face. So they're following

1405
01:15:16,680 --> 01:15:19,800
Speaker 1: the same blueprint. There's a little there's some excellent and

1406
01:15:19,880 --> 01:15:23,439
Speaker 1: ows difference with the defense and with some of what

1407
01:15:23,560 --> 01:15:26,880
Speaker 1: they're doing on offense. And then, finally, and this is

1408
01:15:27,040 --> 01:15:30,640
Speaker 1: the question mark that remains for the Billings, the quarterback

1409
01:15:31,320 --> 01:15:33,560
Speaker 1: has to take you the rest of the way. The

1410
01:15:33,760 --> 01:15:36,800
Speaker 1: program and the defense and the running game and the

1411
01:15:36,920 --> 01:15:39,959
Speaker 1: kind of people you have will get you to the playoffs.

1412
01:15:40,560 --> 01:15:43,280
Speaker 1: The quarterback has to take you the rest of the way.

1413
01:15:44,000 --> 01:15:48,760
Speaker 1: And it can be Frank Reich's who's a terrific game

1414
01:15:48,880 --> 01:15:51,719
Speaker 1: manager and a game player and a guy who uses

1415
01:15:51,800 --> 01:15:54,439
Speaker 1: his head more than his athletic ability. Or it can

1416
01:15:54,479 --> 01:15:57,360
Speaker 1: be Jim Kelly who had everything that you want in

1417
01:15:57,400 --> 01:16:00,600
Speaker 1: a quarterback doesn't have to isn't exactly one mold to

1418
01:16:00,720 --> 01:16:05,479
Speaker 1: do it, but when it, when playoff time comes, that

1419
01:16:05,680 --> 01:16:07,519
Speaker 1: quarterback has to take you the rest of the way.

1420
01:16:07,600 --> 01:16:11,320
Speaker 1: So hopefully Josh has has learned that lessons on some

1421
01:16:11,600 --> 01:16:15,600
Speaker 1: sperience uh last year and and and he'll be the

1422
01:16:15,680 --> 01:16:21,360
Speaker 1: better for it. Um. But the Bills now are doing

1423
01:16:21,439 --> 01:16:25,760
Speaker 1: it the right way because they have a philosophy, they

1424
01:16:25,880 --> 01:16:29,320
Speaker 1: have a blueprint, they're following it. They don't deviate from it.

1425
01:16:30,080 --> 01:16:32,280
Speaker 1: And you know, Steve, as a player, when you come

1426
01:16:32,360 --> 01:16:35,880
Speaker 1: to work every day and you know exactly what how

1427
01:16:35,920 --> 01:16:38,200
Speaker 1: the day is going to unfold, and you know exactly

1428
01:16:38,280 --> 01:16:42,240
Speaker 1: what's expected of you, you can go and play fast

1429
01:16:42,360 --> 01:16:46,200
Speaker 1: and play for your anxiety. So as Marv used to say,

1430
01:16:46,560 --> 01:16:50,599
Speaker 1: a prepared team is a motivated team, and that's absolutely true.

1431
01:16:50,640 --> 01:16:54,400
Speaker 1: And that's what Sean and his coaching staff do. So uh,

1432
01:16:54,720 --> 01:17:00,639
Speaker 1: you know, right days are here, but they're even brighter

1433
01:17:00,760 --> 01:17:02,960
Speaker 1: days ahead, I think for the Bills because they and

1434
01:17:03,080 --> 01:17:06,519
Speaker 1: that's that's the only way to stay on top. That's

1435
01:17:06,560 --> 01:17:09,200
Speaker 1: the only way to stay on tops. You can't because

1436
01:17:09,280 --> 01:17:13,439
Speaker 1: when you change philosophy, you change players, and you affect

1437
01:17:13,520 --> 01:17:17,599
Speaker 1: the cap. It starts over again. It's a constant rebuild

1438
01:17:18,120 --> 01:17:23,479
Speaker 1: and that never gets anywhere. You're just spinning your wheels. No,

1439
01:17:23,760 --> 01:17:25,759
Speaker 1: thanks so much for this, good luck with the podcast.

1440
01:17:26,080 --> 01:17:28,439
Speaker 1: Please give our best Eileen and your family and everybody,

1441
01:17:28,479 --> 01:17:31,040
Speaker 1: and thanks very much. I know Steve wants to say thanks,

1442
01:17:31,080 --> 01:17:36,920
Speaker 1: Thank you. Guys. Great to be with you. Welcome back

1443
01:17:36,960 --> 01:17:39,280
Speaker 1: one those black genre PC canster here were till three

1444
01:17:39,360 --> 01:17:42,360
Speaker 1: do many Foxworth ESPN analysts coming up with us at

1445
01:17:43,240 --> 01:17:46,280
Speaker 1: at two o'clock. He'll be too Polly and just wow,

1446
01:17:46,720 --> 01:17:48,800
Speaker 1: covering a lot of territory and receiving I mean, we

1447
01:17:48,920 --> 01:17:51,519
Speaker 1: went along with him. It was worth it because there's

1448
01:17:51,560 --> 01:17:54,240
Speaker 1: so much to talk about, including I never heard the

1449
01:17:54,280 --> 01:17:55,920
Speaker 1: story of how he got started here. I guess I've

1450
01:17:55,920 --> 01:17:58,559
Speaker 1: heard illusions to the fact that he wasn't sure mister

1451
01:17:58,600 --> 01:18:02,439
Speaker 1: Wilson knew he was an employee. Yeah, I heard that's

1452
01:18:02,479 --> 01:18:03,720
Speaker 1: how he put it, because I don't even know if

1453
01:18:03,720 --> 01:18:06,040
Speaker 1: mister Wilson knew I was working for him, And and

1454
01:18:06,160 --> 01:18:09,360
Speaker 1: it's and it doesn't it just fit that you're trying

1455
01:18:09,400 --> 01:18:11,400
Speaker 1: to lay low. You know, you're trying to do your thing,

1456
01:18:12,080 --> 01:18:13,400
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, it's like you turned the

1457
01:18:13,479 --> 01:18:15,800
Speaker 1: corner in the hallways, like bang, you bump right into

1458
01:18:15,840 --> 01:18:19,400
Speaker 1: the guy you're not supposed to you'd hope you don't meet. Yeah. Uh,

1459
01:18:19,760 --> 01:18:22,360
Speaker 1: And it's like and it's also just like mister Wilson

1460
01:18:22,520 --> 01:18:25,360
Speaker 1: to say, yeah, I know who you are, even if

1461
01:18:25,360 --> 01:18:28,400
Speaker 1: he didn't, even if you didn't. But yeah, that is

1462
01:18:28,520 --> 01:18:34,280
Speaker 1: that is so typical. And it was such a different

1463
01:18:34,520 --> 01:18:38,200
Speaker 1: world we lived in thirties. It was such a different world.

1464
01:18:38,280 --> 01:18:41,479
Speaker 1: The INNFL was completely you know, and forget our lives

1465
01:18:41,560 --> 01:18:44,280
Speaker 1: and the technologies we use, the phones and the TVs

1466
01:18:44,320 --> 01:18:46,120
Speaker 1: and the screens and the zooms and the skypes and

1467
01:18:46,200 --> 01:18:48,160
Speaker 1: the you know, all of this stuff that we have today.

1468
01:18:48,160 --> 01:18:50,360
Speaker 1: We take for granted the big screen TV, the flat

1469
01:18:50,439 --> 01:18:53,920
Speaker 1: screen TVs for crying out loud, let alone cell phones.

1470
01:18:54,400 --> 01:18:59,000
Speaker 1: Nothing happened, nothing existed like that last you know. Back then, Um,

1471
01:19:00,240 --> 01:19:04,559
Speaker 1: it was just a different world. And you know how

1472
01:19:04,600 --> 01:19:08,840
Speaker 1: the league was set up. Nobody had pro personnel guys. Yeah,

1473
01:19:08,920 --> 01:19:12,320
Speaker 1: you know, nobody ran interviews with their draft picks. You know,

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01:19:12,760 --> 01:19:14,639
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm just I was thinking about that when

1475
01:19:14,680 --> 01:19:16,479
Speaker 1: when you think about it, So Poullion is hired in

1476
01:19:16,640 --> 01:19:18,960
Speaker 1: eighty four, middle of the season, and he's kind of

1477
01:19:19,040 --> 01:19:21,519
Speaker 1: under the radar, as he said, mister Wilson was sure

1478
01:19:21,640 --> 01:19:24,000
Speaker 1: he was. And within a year and a half he's

1479
01:19:24,040 --> 01:19:27,880
Speaker 1: the general manager and he's hiring a new head coach.

1480
01:19:28,680 --> 01:19:30,800
Speaker 1: It's hard to imagine a guy having that sort of

1481
01:19:31,000 --> 01:19:34,080
Speaker 1: quick rise through the ranks nowadays. Mostly, I mean Bill

1482
01:19:34,160 --> 01:19:36,479
Speaker 1: Paulian is a rare individual than a Hall of Famer certainly,

1483
01:19:36,560 --> 01:19:39,040
Speaker 1: but it's just a different world. As you said, guys,

1484
01:19:39,560 --> 01:19:41,080
Speaker 1: I don't know, you know, you'd have to go through

1485
01:19:41,160 --> 01:19:43,720
Speaker 1: the Rooney rule to hire a general manager. You have

1486
01:19:43,800 --> 01:19:45,960
Speaker 1: to do this, check this box, check that box. It

1487
01:19:46,080 --> 01:19:48,879
Speaker 1: just wouldn't happen that quickly anymore. You know. You almost

1488
01:19:49,080 --> 01:19:52,840
Speaker 1: never hire a guy that nobody's heard of. Yeah, and

1489
01:19:53,360 --> 01:19:56,479
Speaker 1: it's also he's only been in your building a year

1490
01:19:56,520 --> 01:20:01,559
Speaker 1: and a half, two years, and it's like who who?

1491
01:20:02,120 --> 01:20:04,960
Speaker 1: What was he doing? Right? It just didn't happen. And

1492
01:20:05,760 --> 01:20:08,880
Speaker 1: certainly the NFL has always lent itself to that because

1493
01:20:08,960 --> 01:20:11,760
Speaker 1: it is ultimately run by the owners. They're individual owners

1494
01:20:11,800 --> 01:20:14,519
Speaker 1: of each franchise, and there's no you know, while they're

1495
01:20:14,560 --> 01:20:18,680
Speaker 1: all similar, they're all unique, and you know, particularly with

1496
01:20:18,800 --> 01:20:20,800
Speaker 1: a you know, like a guy like Ralph who we

1497
01:20:20,880 --> 01:20:22,800
Speaker 1: all you know, kind of loved and respected, but he

1498
01:20:22,920 --> 01:20:26,519
Speaker 1: was his own guy and he had no problem going

1499
01:20:26,600 --> 01:20:30,960
Speaker 1: off the book, right And somebody say they ran up

1500
01:20:30,960 --> 01:20:33,280
Speaker 1: by the seat of their pants back then, right, well,

1501
01:20:33,439 --> 01:20:37,120
Speaker 1: compared to now, everybody did. Yeah, there's no other way

1502
01:20:37,160 --> 01:20:39,320
Speaker 1: to do it, you know. He said, what do you think.

1503
01:20:39,479 --> 01:20:41,400
Speaker 1: I don't know, what do you And it's like, we're well,

1504
01:20:41,479 --> 01:20:45,840
Speaker 1: I worked with a guy in Kansas City, Um, yeah,

1505
01:20:45,960 --> 01:20:47,920
Speaker 1: and he was great, he's your guy, and oh yeah,

1506
01:20:47,960 --> 01:20:50,160
Speaker 1: well what's his name? Bill Poli? All right, we'll call

1507
01:20:50,320 --> 01:20:54,880
Speaker 1: him right, you know, and and now, and then two

1508
01:20:54,920 --> 01:20:57,559
Speaker 1: years later Bill gets the job and he said, well,

1509
01:20:57,560 --> 01:20:58,800
Speaker 1: who do you think you don't want to hire for

1510
01:20:58,840 --> 01:21:01,000
Speaker 1: a head couch? Well, I work with his I Marv Levy,

1511
01:21:01,200 --> 01:21:05,240
Speaker 1: as with Montreal and also with Kansas City. Good coach,

1512
01:21:05,320 --> 01:21:07,120
Speaker 1: he's got a lot of let's get in all right,

1513
01:21:07,600 --> 01:21:11,719
Speaker 1: give him a call. You know. It was like, wow, okay,

1514
01:21:12,520 --> 01:21:14,240
Speaker 1: you know, you think and and maybe it's not that

1515
01:21:14,439 --> 01:21:17,320
Speaker 1: much different than it is today, except for you know,

1516
01:21:17,520 --> 01:21:20,760
Speaker 1: the the attention and the behind the scenes that that

1517
01:21:20,880 --> 01:21:24,040
Speaker 1: we kind of find out about. I don't know, but man,

1518
01:21:24,120 --> 01:21:29,080
Speaker 1: oh man, it was how different our society was and

1519
01:21:29,160 --> 01:21:31,599
Speaker 1: our culture was just because of the technology. It's involved

1520
01:21:31,640 --> 01:21:34,800
Speaker 1: in everything, and and wow, it's technology. But I think

1521
01:21:34,840 --> 01:21:36,960
Speaker 1: even more than that. See, if it's money, right, there's

1522
01:21:36,960 --> 01:21:38,920
Speaker 1: so much money involved in the NFL now that you

1523
01:21:39,040 --> 01:21:41,280
Speaker 1: can't even if you want to make a seat of

1524
01:21:41,320 --> 01:21:44,040
Speaker 1: the pant's decision, you got to disguise it as after

1525
01:21:44,120 --> 01:21:48,439
Speaker 1: an exact, extensive investigation in the Asia wide search, you've

1526
01:21:48,520 --> 01:21:50,240
Speaker 1: come up with this guy as our general manager, you

1527
01:21:50,320 --> 01:21:52,040
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Because it's just so much money

1528
01:21:52,040 --> 01:21:54,200
Speaker 1: at stake. Got him, Yeah, he's got them. He's got

1529
01:21:54,280 --> 01:21:58,519
Speaker 1: impeccable you know, impeccable resumes, you know, and plus guys

1530
01:21:58,640 --> 01:22:01,800
Speaker 1: know that, you know, you spend a lot a guy

1531
01:22:01,880 --> 01:22:07,599
Speaker 1: like Sean mcdertmott. It's almost it behooves a guy like him, say,

1532
01:22:07,640 --> 01:22:10,360
Speaker 1: for instance, he was in Philly. As soon as you

1533
01:22:10,439 --> 01:22:12,120
Speaker 1: get on the board in Philly and you're talking to

1534
01:22:12,160 --> 01:22:14,200
Speaker 1: Andy Reid and you're talking about things, you make it

1535
01:22:14,320 --> 01:22:17,679
Speaker 1: kind of innestingly someday I'm gonna be a head coach

1536
01:22:18,320 --> 01:22:19,720
Speaker 1: and what do I have to do to get there?

1537
01:22:20,040 --> 01:22:21,760
Speaker 1: And the coach tells you said, well, you know, to

1538
01:22:21,760 --> 01:22:23,599
Speaker 1: spend some time here, you gotta spend some time there.

1539
01:22:23,640 --> 01:22:25,280
Speaker 1: You gotta do this, and you gotta be and then

1540
01:22:25,520 --> 01:22:27,320
Speaker 1: you kind of create your own way. And then when

1541
01:22:27,360 --> 01:22:31,080
Speaker 1: you go to when he goes from Philly to Carolina

1542
01:22:31,080 --> 01:22:33,760
Speaker 1: as a defensive coordinator, it's like what you know, No,

1543
01:22:34,000 --> 01:22:36,439
Speaker 1: someday I do. And for a couple of years you

1544
01:22:36,520 --> 01:22:39,320
Speaker 1: go through the interview process not really expecting to get

1545
01:22:39,320 --> 01:22:41,280
Speaker 1: get the job or just kind of finding out how

1546
01:22:41,360 --> 01:22:43,040
Speaker 1: to do it and what's gonna be asked and expected

1547
01:22:43,120 --> 01:22:48,000
Speaker 1: of you, and you learn from that. Back then, it

1548
01:22:48,360 --> 01:22:52,839
Speaker 1: wasn't like that. No, Like, he's a pretty good coordinator,

1549
01:22:52,840 --> 01:22:55,360
Speaker 1: pretty good coach, and these guys highly recommend you, and

1550
01:22:55,439 --> 01:23:02,560
Speaker 1: I know them, so I hear in, Oh crazy, and

1551
01:23:02,920 --> 01:23:05,000
Speaker 1: you know we have We've come so far. But you

1552
01:23:05,120 --> 01:23:09,360
Speaker 1: think thirty years, it is a long time. We didn't

1553
01:23:09,400 --> 01:23:11,880
Speaker 1: just end up here, you know, it evolved to this,

1554
01:23:12,200 --> 01:23:15,840
Speaker 1: and whether it's better or not, certainly there are more

1555
01:23:15,880 --> 01:23:18,680
Speaker 1: people in the in the pool. Right. We got a

1556
01:23:18,680 --> 01:23:20,680
Speaker 1: break and then we're back. One Bill's Live, presented by

1557
01:23:20,760 --> 01:23:31,240
Speaker 1: Kalid to Health. This is Buffalo Bill's Radio brought them back.

1558
01:23:31,280 --> 01:23:33,759
Speaker 1: One Bill's love John Murphy's team Tasker. We've got Dominique

1559
01:23:33,800 --> 01:23:35,920
Speaker 1: Foxworth coming up in a couple of minutes after the

1560
01:23:36,120 --> 01:23:38,439
Speaker 1: top of the hour. Our Twitter poll today, which Bill's

1561
01:23:38,479 --> 01:23:41,240
Speaker 1: player is gonna get his first Pro Bowl now this season?

1562
01:23:41,320 --> 01:23:43,000
Speaker 1: And why give us a call? We've got phone lines

1563
01:23:43,040 --> 01:23:46,000
Speaker 1: wide open eighth three five fifty toll three from outside

1564
01:23:46,000 --> 01:23:48,800
Speaker 1: Buffalo one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty.

1565
01:23:48,920 --> 01:23:51,240
Speaker 1: It's a poll on Twitter. Got seven hundred and fifty

1566
01:23:51,320 --> 01:23:54,720
Speaker 1: responded so far. Forty four percent say Josh Allen will

1567
01:23:54,760 --> 01:23:56,360
Speaker 1: get his first Pro Bowl and out of the season.

1568
01:23:56,680 --> 01:23:59,760
Speaker 1: Thirty two percent say Stefan Diggs will get his That's

1569
01:23:59,800 --> 01:24:02,960
Speaker 1: why I'd vote for nineteen percent say Jordan Poyer. Five

1570
01:24:03,040 --> 01:24:05,559
Speaker 1: percent say somebody else. Other Let's hear from you, give

1571
01:24:05,600 --> 01:24:07,439
Speaker 1: us a call. Let's hear from you on the tweet

1572
01:24:07,439 --> 01:24:11,080
Speaker 1: sheet sending your tweets to one Bill's Life. The tweet

1573
01:24:11,080 --> 01:24:14,000
Speaker 1: sheet brought to you by Cargan Moving Systems, the official

1574
01:24:14,040 --> 01:24:15,880
Speaker 1: movements of the Buffalo Bills. You gotta tweet you want

1575
01:24:15,880 --> 01:24:17,880
Speaker 1: to read the sea Yeah, this is from this goes

1576
01:24:17,920 --> 01:24:20,240
Speaker 1: to the other category from Pat He says, I think

1577
01:24:20,360 --> 01:24:22,639
Speaker 1: Levi Wallace will have a breakout year with White as

1578
01:24:22,680 --> 01:24:25,800
Speaker 1: his motivation to step up and be the top dB

1579
01:24:26,040 --> 01:24:29,400
Speaker 1: in the NFL. I think he's taken. He's thinking Levi

1580
01:24:29,520 --> 01:24:32,840
Speaker 1: Wallace is going to get his inspiration from Tredevious White

1581
01:24:32,920 --> 01:24:35,080
Speaker 1: and have a breakout year. That it'll be tough to

1582
01:24:35,160 --> 01:24:39,000
Speaker 1: make the Pro Bowl opposite Tardevius White. Yeah, you rarely,

1583
01:24:39,240 --> 01:24:42,120
Speaker 1: because if ifs White's playing the way he plays and

1584
01:24:42,200 --> 01:24:43,800
Speaker 1: goes to the Pro Bowl, it's hard to get two

1585
01:24:43,880 --> 01:24:46,599
Speaker 1: corners from the same team on the Pro Bowl. Rouster. Yeah,

1586
01:24:47,040 --> 01:24:48,880
Speaker 1: but I don't know. That doesn't mean that Levi Wallace

1587
01:24:48,880 --> 01:24:53,160
Speaker 1: couldn't outplay Tredevius White, but I haven't seen him be

1588
01:24:53,240 --> 01:24:56,120
Speaker 1: able to do that yet, but we'll see. I agree.

1589
01:24:56,160 --> 01:24:59,080
Speaker 1: I think that's a long shot. One from Jean who

1590
01:24:59,160 --> 01:25:01,599
Speaker 1: says I think this is Matt Milano's year. He has

1591
01:25:01,680 --> 01:25:03,680
Speaker 1: what it takes as long as he stays healthy. I

1592
01:25:03,800 --> 01:25:05,400
Speaker 1: think there's something to be said there, and I think,

1593
01:25:05,439 --> 01:25:06,920
Speaker 1: as I said earlier, it's a lot to do with

1594
01:25:07,040 --> 01:25:10,320
Speaker 1: big plays. If Mulano finds himself making big plays and

1595
01:25:10,439 --> 01:25:15,120
Speaker 1: getting attention that way interceptions, you know, sacks, big plays,

1596
01:25:15,160 --> 01:25:18,800
Speaker 1: then he will clearly be a Pro Bowl contender. I

1597
01:25:18,920 --> 01:25:22,160
Speaker 1: mentioned how it would help if those big plays happen

1598
01:25:22,560 --> 01:25:24,960
Speaker 1: on the primetime games, and if somebody pointed out on Twitter,

1599
01:25:25,960 --> 01:25:27,880
Speaker 1: the issue with that is they only have the one

1600
01:25:27,920 --> 01:25:29,960
Speaker 1: primetime game in the first half of the season. They

1601
01:25:30,040 --> 01:25:32,800
Speaker 1: can't city game on the Monday night October fifteenth. They

1602
01:25:32,800 --> 01:25:34,880
Speaker 1: don't play the night games really. I mean, they play

1603
01:25:35,479 --> 01:25:37,759
Speaker 1: at San Francisco on a Monday night, they're home against

1604
01:25:37,760 --> 01:25:39,800
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh on a Sunday night, and they play at New

1605
01:25:39,840 --> 01:25:41,599
Speaker 1: England on a Monday night. There's a chance they play

1606
01:25:41,640 --> 01:25:44,800
Speaker 1: Saturday home against or at Denver on a Saturday game.

1607
01:25:44,880 --> 01:25:47,160
Speaker 1: So you're right about that. The primetime games late in

1608
01:25:47,200 --> 01:25:49,800
Speaker 1: the year and many of the Pro Bowl decisions, if

1609
01:25:49,880 --> 01:25:53,040
Speaker 1: not the ballots, I don't know when are they usually Yes,

1610
01:25:53,320 --> 01:25:55,600
Speaker 1: they're gonna be in before the Denver game before and

1611
01:25:55,920 --> 01:25:57,960
Speaker 1: I think it'll probably be after the Denver game, before

1612
01:25:58,000 --> 01:26:00,400
Speaker 1: the New England game. They usually come in like week fifteen,

1613
01:26:00,479 --> 01:26:03,519
Speaker 1: Week sixteen, they get announced, so you'll have a Monday

1614
01:26:03,600 --> 01:26:06,320
Speaker 1: night gamed in, the Sunday night game, and then maybe

1615
01:26:06,400 --> 01:26:09,439
Speaker 1: the afternoon game against Denver on a Saturday. They'll have

1616
01:26:09,600 --> 01:26:12,599
Speaker 1: three big games right at the end of the season

1617
01:26:12,720 --> 01:26:14,960
Speaker 1: where everybody's going to be watching you, and that's when

1618
01:26:14,960 --> 01:26:17,320
Speaker 1: they're voting as well, so that that could prove to

1619
01:26:17,400 --> 01:26:21,360
Speaker 1: be beneficial to the to the those guys right right there,

1620
01:26:21,439 --> 01:26:22,840
Speaker 1: you go. All right, we got a break coming up

1621
01:26:22,880 --> 01:26:24,880
Speaker 1: here and then Dolinique Foxworth is going to join this

1622
01:26:24,920 --> 01:26:28,040
Speaker 1: SESPN analysts, former NFL defensive back. Got a lot to

1623
01:26:28,040 --> 01:26:29,640
Speaker 1: talk about with him, So come on back for that.

1624
01:26:29,920 --> 01:26:32,280
Speaker 1: One Bill's Live, presented by Collat of Health. This is

1625
01:26:32,320 --> 01:26:40,400
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill three day. Oh, great time, I'll watch Steve

1626
01:26:40,479 --> 01:26:58,880
Speaker 1: plasters time backs, down, down time. Here we go our

1627
01:26:59,000 --> 01:27:00,840
Speaker 1: number three of the show. One goes five. It's John

1628
01:27:00,880 --> 01:27:04,240
Speaker 1: Murphy feet tasker here until three o'clock today. Steve, you're

1629
01:27:04,240 --> 01:27:06,000
Speaker 1: ready to go? I remember three on another hour left

1630
01:27:06,080 --> 01:27:08,639
Speaker 1: in you. Oh yeah, it's a beautiful day here. I'm ready.

1631
01:27:09,120 --> 01:27:10,640
Speaker 1: I just took a walk out. I went outside to

1632
01:27:10,680 --> 01:27:14,080
Speaker 1: get the mail. Steve. It's it's spectacular out. It's unrelievable out.

1633
01:27:14,240 --> 01:27:17,280
Speaker 1: I know. I mean, it's a good thing. It's a

1634
01:27:17,320 --> 01:27:19,599
Speaker 1: good thing. I'm liking these bankers hours when we get

1635
01:27:19,600 --> 01:27:22,000
Speaker 1: out of three, Yeah, I like I gotta learn to

1636
01:27:22,080 --> 01:27:24,679
Speaker 1: like him. And you know, today's I was thinking today's

1637
01:27:24,720 --> 01:27:27,000
Speaker 1: first day. I wore shorts on the show since training

1638
01:27:27,040 --> 01:27:32,320
Speaker 1: camp last year. That's a milestone, right, it shows you

1639
01:27:32,400 --> 01:27:34,479
Speaker 1: how far we've come. I've got shorts on a long way.

1640
01:27:34,520 --> 01:27:38,400
Speaker 1: I'm two weeks ago we were wearing long John's and

1641
01:27:38,600 --> 01:27:41,360
Speaker 1: wool socks. That's right. So I's putting on sweaters two

1642
01:27:41,400 --> 01:27:44,800
Speaker 1: weeks at night. You're right two weeks ago. It was

1643
01:27:45,040 --> 01:27:47,280
Speaker 1: not two weeks ago like ten days ago. I know

1644
01:27:47,680 --> 01:27:50,800
Speaker 1: you're getting snow three times a week. That's right, It's crazy,

1645
01:27:50,840 --> 01:27:52,599
Speaker 1: that's right. Hey, we got a guest on the line.

1646
01:27:52,640 --> 01:27:55,440
Speaker 1: He is asked men analysts. A contributed to The Undefeated.

1647
01:27:55,800 --> 01:27:59,840
Speaker 1: Former player, former president actually the NFL Players Association. Spent

1648
01:28:00,000 --> 01:28:02,840
Speaker 1: seven years in the NFL as a player with Baltimore,

1649
01:28:02,920 --> 01:28:06,160
Speaker 1: Denver and Atlanta. Is an NBA from Harvard Business School,

1650
01:28:06,360 --> 01:28:10,000
Speaker 1: ESPN analyst Dominique Foxworth and with the SIVE. He's one

1651
01:28:10,040 --> 01:28:11,720
Speaker 1: of the better guests we've ever had on the show

1652
01:28:11,800 --> 01:28:14,160
Speaker 1: over the years. Dominique John Murphy's team task. We're up

1653
01:28:14,160 --> 01:28:15,720
Speaker 1: there in Buffalo. Thank you for coming out with us.

1654
01:28:16,760 --> 01:28:19,080
Speaker 1: Thanks for having me, But you're overselling me now. People

1655
01:28:19,080 --> 01:28:20,840
Speaker 1: are gonna expect some good content. I don't know if

1656
01:28:20,840 --> 01:28:23,280
Speaker 1: I can deliver. I think I'm maybe one of the

1657
01:28:23,479 --> 01:28:27,320
Speaker 1: top ten guests, not one of the best stuffs. Listen,

1658
01:28:27,560 --> 01:28:30,479
Speaker 1: it's my rankings. I get the ranking right, right, Yeah,

1659
01:28:31,000 --> 01:28:34,200
Speaker 1: And you lead off with that. We were talking about,

1660
01:28:34,439 --> 01:28:35,800
Speaker 1: you know what we're going to talk to you about.

1661
01:28:36,000 --> 01:28:38,760
Speaker 1: You had our boy, Dan Orlovsky had his top five

1662
01:28:38,880 --> 01:28:42,800
Speaker 1: quarterbacks and he had left Dak Prescott off that list,

1663
01:28:42,840 --> 01:28:45,720
Speaker 1: and you talked him in to put Dak on the

1664
01:28:46,320 --> 01:28:49,280
Speaker 1: list and taking Carson Wentz off. Can you recount that

1665
01:28:49,400 --> 01:28:52,599
Speaker 1: conversation and how it went. Yeah, I mean, to be honest,

1666
01:28:52,680 --> 01:28:55,120
Speaker 1: I like Dan, He's a good dude. And then and

1667
01:28:55,280 --> 01:28:58,439
Speaker 1: I have this ongoing fude about Dak over Wentz, and

1668
01:28:58,560 --> 01:29:01,240
Speaker 1: to be honest, they are like, it's it's splitting hairs.

1669
01:29:01,240 --> 01:29:04,840
Speaker 1: They're both very, very good quarterbacks. But he dismisses Dak

1670
01:29:04,880 --> 01:29:08,360
Speaker 1: as if Dak hasn't been a consistent baller who improves

1671
01:29:08,479 --> 01:29:10,760
Speaker 1: year after year in a way that Carson Wentz has it.

1672
01:29:10,840 --> 01:29:13,200
Speaker 1: And it really really upset me when he makes it

1673
01:29:13,280 --> 01:29:15,719
Speaker 1: seem like Carson is better than Dak, and everyone says

1674
01:29:16,040 --> 01:29:18,960
Speaker 1: Dack's um surrounding cast like Zeke in the offensive line

1675
01:29:19,000 --> 01:29:21,360
Speaker 1: and the reason why Dak's been so good When Carson

1676
01:29:21,400 --> 01:29:25,800
Speaker 1: went to his team won the freaking super Bowl without him,

1677
01:29:26,120 --> 01:29:29,120
Speaker 1: Like talk about a supporting cast that cash is pretty

1678
01:29:29,160 --> 01:29:30,960
Speaker 1: good if they can win the Super Bowl without you.

1679
01:29:31,080 --> 01:29:34,320
Speaker 1: And Carson Wentz is obviously MVP caliber player. He's had

1680
01:29:34,400 --> 01:29:36,639
Speaker 1: seasons that are that good and he may have another

1681
01:29:36,720 --> 01:29:38,960
Speaker 1: one that's good. But Dak Prescott has done all that

1682
01:29:39,080 --> 01:29:42,320
Speaker 1: he's done and more. His numbers are better. Everything avand

1683
01:29:42,400 --> 01:29:45,479
Speaker 1: metrics are better. He's won two he's won playoff games,

1684
01:29:45,479 --> 01:29:48,200
Speaker 1: he won a playoff game. He led a fourth quarter

1685
01:29:48,280 --> 01:29:51,240
Speaker 1: come back against the Packers in the playoffs where he

1686
01:29:51,360 --> 01:29:54,920
Speaker 1: led three scoring drives in the fourth quarter. They would

1687
01:29:54,920 --> 01:29:57,360
Speaker 1: have beaten the Packers that in Ducks rookie year if

1688
01:29:57,360 --> 01:29:59,000
Speaker 1: it wasn't for the fact that Aaron Rodgers threw that

1689
01:29:59,080 --> 01:30:02,360
Speaker 1: absurd pass to Cooks in the corner like it's and

1690
01:30:02,720 --> 01:30:04,400
Speaker 1: we just talk about him like he is not that

1691
01:30:04,479 --> 01:30:06,360
Speaker 1: good when he's in com So you guys got me started.

1692
01:30:06,400 --> 01:30:08,400
Speaker 1: This is a pain point for me because it is

1693
01:30:08,479 --> 01:30:11,960
Speaker 1: widely accepted that somehow Dak is riding on the heel

1694
01:30:12,240 --> 01:30:14,080
Speaker 1: or riding on the coattails of the rest of the team,

1695
01:30:14,120 --> 01:30:17,920
Speaker 1: and Carson Wentz is some superman that's carrying everybody they're

1696
01:30:17,960 --> 01:30:20,800
Speaker 1: about the same. I'd rather have Dak he stays health.

1697
01:30:21,320 --> 01:30:23,760
Speaker 1: I wonder if Dominic, how much of that do you

1698
01:30:23,800 --> 01:30:26,840
Speaker 1: think is a result of Dak Prescott's draft status, right

1699
01:30:26,920 --> 01:30:29,640
Speaker 1: fourth round pick. Maybe even the current you know, it's

1700
01:30:29,680 --> 01:30:32,560
Speaker 1: current contractual lists in Dallas has something to do with that.

1701
01:30:32,680 --> 01:30:35,080
Speaker 1: He's not it's highly regarded because, let's face it, he

1702
01:30:35,160 --> 01:30:38,040
Speaker 1: left it last it until the fourth round. Yeah, I

1703
01:30:38,120 --> 01:30:39,840
Speaker 1: think you're right, it's hard for us to break out

1704
01:30:39,920 --> 01:30:43,479
Speaker 1: of those preconceived notions. I think it's difficult for us

1705
01:30:43,520 --> 01:30:47,839
Speaker 1: and a late round guy like myself and I understand

1706
01:30:47,920 --> 01:30:49,880
Speaker 1: how difficult it is to get people to think of

1707
01:30:49,960 --> 01:30:52,240
Speaker 1: you in a different light. So maybe that's also part

1708
01:30:52,240 --> 01:30:55,200
Speaker 1: of the reason that I ride with Dad, because I

1709
01:30:55,439 --> 01:30:58,400
Speaker 1: was not a first rounder and Carson Wentz came in

1710
01:30:58,520 --> 01:31:00,840
Speaker 1: with that type of that of a pub coming in,

1711
01:31:00,960 --> 01:31:03,720
Speaker 1: and I think that maybe you can understand a little

1712
01:31:03,760 --> 01:31:05,400
Speaker 1: bit of that also, how you got to fight for

1713
01:31:05,520 --> 01:31:07,519
Speaker 1: every little thing you get. So it also makes me,

1714
01:31:07,600 --> 01:31:09,599
Speaker 1: I guess you can't call back an underdog at this point,

1715
01:31:09,760 --> 01:31:12,160
Speaker 1: but at one point he was an undog to be

1716
01:31:12,640 --> 01:31:15,160
Speaker 1: quite set back from his rookie year when you had

1717
01:31:15,200 --> 01:31:17,360
Speaker 1: that great rookie season. I was one of the people

1718
01:31:17,479 --> 01:31:20,120
Speaker 1: that were saying Tony Romo's healthy. You put them in

1719
01:31:20,200 --> 01:31:21,960
Speaker 1: the game to give you the best chance to win.

1720
01:31:22,080 --> 01:31:24,320
Speaker 1: I think that was true at that point, but obviously

1721
01:31:24,360 --> 01:31:26,400
Speaker 1: I don't think it's true at this point. I guess

1722
01:31:26,439 --> 01:31:28,519
Speaker 1: Tony LM was really good at talking though, so probably

1723
01:31:28,600 --> 01:31:32,679
Speaker 1: more valuable. Domini, you were high up in the NFL PA.

1724
01:31:33,120 --> 01:31:34,840
Speaker 1: You know what makes these players take you are a

1725
01:31:34,880 --> 01:31:37,400
Speaker 1: good player. He had a nice career in the league.

1726
01:31:37,520 --> 01:31:39,439
Speaker 1: What is your advice to these guys on how to

1727
01:31:39,560 --> 01:31:42,560
Speaker 1: handle this offseason and all the virtual nature of it

1728
01:31:43,640 --> 01:31:46,400
Speaker 1: long both long term and short term. What's your advice

1729
01:31:46,439 --> 01:31:49,400
Speaker 1: to these guys? I mean, I think it's hard when

1730
01:31:49,439 --> 01:31:52,479
Speaker 1: you're twenty something years old and you're kind of trains

1731
01:31:52,520 --> 01:31:56,360
Speaker 1: your minds and to overlook risk. It's hard to take

1732
01:31:56,439 --> 01:31:59,760
Speaker 1: anything like this very seriously because you played football for

1733
01:31:59,840 --> 01:32:02,920
Speaker 1: the sake. Some little virus is not something that is

1734
01:32:02,960 --> 01:32:04,880
Speaker 1: going to scare you. But you should certainly respect it.

1735
01:32:05,000 --> 01:32:07,000
Speaker 1: And we're not sure what the long term impacts are.

1736
01:32:07,320 --> 01:32:09,920
Speaker 1: But as far as like players, I would say the

1737
01:32:10,000 --> 01:32:12,200
Speaker 1: same thing that I would say anytime there is something

1738
01:32:12,880 --> 01:32:15,640
Speaker 1: there's some sort of crisis or some dangerous situation or

1739
01:32:16,040 --> 01:32:20,880
Speaker 1: not necessarily dangerous situation, but imperfect situation. It's an opportunity

1740
01:32:21,000 --> 01:32:24,599
Speaker 1: like this is an opportunity for guys to get prepared

1741
01:32:24,640 --> 01:32:26,519
Speaker 1: because not everyone is going to be fully prepared. It's

1742
01:32:26,520 --> 01:32:29,439
Speaker 1: gonna be difficult for people to find ways prepare to themselves.

1743
01:32:29,479 --> 01:32:32,880
Speaker 1: So if I were talking to any of these players,

1744
01:32:33,000 --> 01:32:34,720
Speaker 1: I would look at this and it's all you can

1745
01:32:34,880 --> 01:32:37,080
Speaker 1: do is try to find the bright side of this.

1746
01:32:37,200 --> 01:32:39,120
Speaker 1: I would look at this and say, not everyone's gonna

1747
01:32:39,120 --> 01:32:41,439
Speaker 1: be ready. Not everyone is gonna be in tiptop condition.

1748
01:32:41,520 --> 01:32:43,720
Speaker 1: Not everyone is going to be studying their playbook. Not

1749
01:32:43,880 --> 01:32:47,519
Speaker 1: everyone can learn without a coach standing over their shoulder

1750
01:32:48,720 --> 01:32:51,160
Speaker 1: and drilling it into them. So this is an opportunity

1751
01:32:51,200 --> 01:32:54,120
Speaker 1: for a lot of guys who who can find a

1752
01:32:54,200 --> 01:32:57,320
Speaker 1: way to get physically, mentally, emotionally prepared for the season

1753
01:32:57,439 --> 01:32:59,800
Speaker 1: because a good portion of the league it's not going

1754
01:32:59,840 --> 01:33:01,479
Speaker 1: to it's going to be impossible for them to be

1755
01:33:01,600 --> 01:33:03,800
Speaker 1: given a current circumstances. So it's an opportunity for a

1756
01:33:03,840 --> 01:33:06,720
Speaker 1: lot of guys. Live on the line with Dominique Foxworth's

1757
01:33:06,760 --> 01:33:10,879
Speaker 1: former NFL defensive back. ESPN analysts nominally this week just yesterday,

1758
01:33:11,040 --> 01:33:16,360
Speaker 1: NFL Owners meeting, you know, virtually decided not to implement

1759
01:33:16,439 --> 01:33:18,960
Speaker 1: a kind of an incentive system involving draft picks to

1760
01:33:19,520 --> 01:33:22,120
Speaker 1: encourage minority coaching hires. But they did put a couple

1761
01:33:22,200 --> 01:33:24,560
Speaker 1: of changes in place. What's your take on all that.

1762
01:33:24,680 --> 01:33:27,000
Speaker 1: Do you need to reward teams with draft picks and

1763
01:33:27,240 --> 01:33:31,160
Speaker 1: if they hire a minority coaching general manager? Yeah. My

1764
01:33:31,320 --> 01:33:34,800
Speaker 1: initial reaction, I think was the popular one, is that

1765
01:33:35,960 --> 01:33:38,559
Speaker 1: you know, you don't have to And I wouldn't want

1766
01:33:38,560 --> 01:33:41,000
Speaker 1: to be hired in a situation like that because people

1767
01:33:41,000 --> 01:33:43,400
Speaker 1: would assume that I don't deserve the job. But frankly,

1768
01:33:43,479 --> 01:33:45,080
Speaker 1: I gave it some more thought and I'm on the

1769
01:33:45,160 --> 01:33:47,719
Speaker 1: other the other end of the spectrum right now, because

1770
01:33:47,760 --> 01:33:52,280
Speaker 1: like the complaint is, you should not incentivize them or

1771
01:33:52,640 --> 01:33:55,360
Speaker 1: I guess what I don't see is I don't see

1772
01:33:55,520 --> 01:33:59,439
Speaker 1: happening a bunch of unqualified minority candidates getting jobbed because

1773
01:33:59,720 --> 01:34:01,640
Speaker 1: someone can move up in the third round. What I

1774
01:34:01,720 --> 01:34:04,880
Speaker 1: see happening, it's a bunch of qualified minority candidates finally

1775
01:34:04,960 --> 01:34:07,479
Speaker 1: an opportunities that they've been looked over or that that

1776
01:34:07,600 --> 01:34:09,720
Speaker 1: have passed them over in the past. So that's the

1777
01:34:09,800 --> 01:34:13,240
Speaker 1: outcome I see it's not meant to make the candidates

1778
01:34:13,240 --> 01:34:17,280
Speaker 1: anymore attractive as much as it's meant to to balance

1779
01:34:17,360 --> 01:34:20,560
Speaker 1: the scales against the unconscious or conscious bias on the

1780
01:34:20,680 --> 01:34:23,040
Speaker 1: other end that's stopping them. So I don't think that

1781
01:34:23,120 --> 01:34:25,280
Speaker 1: you should be concerned about coming in and having people

1782
01:34:25,479 --> 01:34:27,720
Speaker 1: judge you, because frankly, that's what's going to happen all

1783
01:34:27,760 --> 01:34:30,760
Speaker 1: the time. And this name may not be come to

1784
01:34:30,840 --> 01:34:34,200
Speaker 1: your mind first, But like Kingsbury last year, everyone said

1785
01:34:34,240 --> 01:34:35,800
Speaker 1: he did not deserve the job. I wrote a piece

1786
01:34:35,840 --> 01:34:38,080
Speaker 1: about saying how he was unqualified for the job giving

1787
01:34:38,120 --> 01:34:41,080
Speaker 1: his background. He's pretty good. Like, you come in, do

1788
01:34:41,160 --> 01:34:43,640
Speaker 1: your job, you do your work, people are gonna respect you.

1789
01:34:43,760 --> 01:34:45,800
Speaker 1: So that's what it boils down to for me, is

1790
01:34:45,840 --> 01:34:47,800
Speaker 1: I And the last point I want to make is

1791
01:34:48,439 --> 01:34:50,880
Speaker 1: there people are acting as or some people acting as

1792
01:34:50,920 --> 01:34:54,120
Speaker 1: if the draft capital is some sacred thing that you

1793
01:34:54,200 --> 01:34:56,640
Speaker 1: can't tamper with. But if you actually step back and

1794
01:34:56,720 --> 01:34:58,799
Speaker 1: take a look at it, like right now, the draft

1795
01:34:58,960 --> 01:35:02,519
Speaker 1: order is determined by how bad you suck. Like I'm

1796
01:35:02,560 --> 01:35:04,560
Speaker 1: not trying to reward people from being bad like I

1797
01:35:04,600 --> 01:35:08,439
Speaker 1: have much rather reward teams for being progressive and addressing

1798
01:35:08,520 --> 01:35:11,880
Speaker 1: something that the NFL, Whether fans think it's an issue

1799
01:35:11,960 --> 01:35:14,320
Speaker 1: or not, the NFL recognizes is something that they want

1800
01:35:14,320 --> 01:35:19,240
Speaker 1: to address. Having very few black or minority candidates in

1801
01:35:19,720 --> 01:35:22,400
Speaker 1: leadership roles something that they want to address, Like why

1802
01:35:22,479 --> 01:35:25,160
Speaker 1: not reward them for in the third round? Like I'm

1803
01:35:25,200 --> 01:35:27,040
Speaker 1: not saying you should get the first overall pick, but

1804
01:35:27,160 --> 01:35:30,200
Speaker 1: why not reward them for complying with the things that

1805
01:35:30,280 --> 01:35:32,960
Speaker 1: you want rather than reward them for reward teams for

1806
01:35:33,040 --> 01:35:36,960
Speaker 1: going out there and being trash? What about the effort

1807
01:35:37,000 --> 01:35:38,920
Speaker 1: that the NFL is putting forth? Are they doing enough

1808
01:35:39,160 --> 01:35:41,120
Speaker 1: and are they asking the right people about what the

1809
01:35:41,240 --> 01:35:45,120
Speaker 1: solution should be? Right? Yeah, so the doing enough is

1810
01:35:45,160 --> 01:35:47,160
Speaker 1: a tough question because you guys understand this, and I

1811
01:35:47,200 --> 01:35:50,479
Speaker 1: don't just mean you, everybody understands. How much are doing

1812
01:35:50,520 --> 01:35:53,519
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. The result matters, Like you're whatever your job is,

1813
01:35:53,600 --> 01:35:55,800
Speaker 1: No your boss is gonna come in and say you

1814
01:35:55,920 --> 01:35:59,120
Speaker 1: try super hard, like it's the result. So I'm not

1815
01:35:59,240 --> 01:36:01,560
Speaker 1: here to gauge they're doing enough now or actually the

1816
01:36:01,680 --> 01:36:03,840
Speaker 1: score board says that they aren't doing enough. So I

1817
01:36:03,920 --> 01:36:05,880
Speaker 1: think that it seems like they're trying to do more

1818
01:36:05,920 --> 01:36:07,880
Speaker 1: and more things, which is why they've come out with

1819
01:36:07,960 --> 01:36:10,560
Speaker 1: plans that a couple of weeks ago I would have

1820
01:36:10,600 --> 01:36:13,080
Speaker 1: thought were jurassic, but now I think they're probably needed.

1821
01:36:13,200 --> 01:36:16,360
Speaker 1: So if they're involving in the right people, I think

1822
01:36:16,720 --> 01:36:20,200
Speaker 1: it's not necessarily involving the right people. It's about having

1823
01:36:20,240 --> 01:36:23,080
Speaker 1: the right people in place. So it's interesting that the

1824
01:36:23,200 --> 01:36:27,120
Speaker 1: league seems to be prioritizing improving the leadership, improving diversity

1825
01:36:27,160 --> 01:36:31,479
Speaker 1: amongst leadership and coaches and general managers. But it's hard

1826
01:36:31,560 --> 01:36:34,320
Speaker 1: to say that that's important to you when you look

1827
01:36:34,360 --> 01:36:36,880
Speaker 1: at the group of owners and the owners are not

1828
01:36:36,960 --> 01:36:39,720
Speaker 1: a very diverse group. And I know the argument to

1829
01:36:39,760 --> 01:36:41,640
Speaker 1: pushback on that that I hear all the time is

1830
01:36:41,720 --> 01:36:45,000
Speaker 1: that there aren't very many minorities or black people specifically

1831
01:36:45,040 --> 01:36:46,960
Speaker 1: who have the money to buy an NFL team. But

1832
01:36:47,439 --> 01:36:50,559
Speaker 1: that's not how NML teams are bought. Like the guys

1833
01:36:50,600 --> 01:36:52,720
Speaker 1: who we call owners are what they actually are, like

1834
01:36:53,120 --> 01:36:56,120
Speaker 1: managing partners, and many of them don't even own half

1835
01:36:56,360 --> 01:36:59,559
Speaker 1: or more than half of the teams themselves, but they

1836
01:36:59,600 --> 01:37:01,960
Speaker 1: are called owners because they are the ones who are

1837
01:37:02,040 --> 01:37:04,720
Speaker 1: dubbed the one to the dubbed the managing partners that

1838
01:37:04,800 --> 01:37:07,479
Speaker 1: make the decision. So I used this example earlier today

1839
01:37:07,560 --> 01:37:10,200
Speaker 1: on TV Al Davis. I was reading about him last night.

1840
01:37:10,280 --> 01:37:13,960
Speaker 1: Al Davis took over. It's a crazy story you should

1841
01:37:13,960 --> 01:37:16,320
Speaker 1: read about. But he went through all these great lengths

1842
01:37:16,360 --> 01:37:18,400
Speaker 1: to lead a coup to take over the Raiders in

1843
01:37:18,520 --> 01:37:22,400
Speaker 1: the late sixties early seventies. He we consider him the

1844
01:37:22,439 --> 01:37:25,880
Speaker 1: owner of that team all the way until he died.

1845
01:37:26,040 --> 01:37:29,000
Speaker 1: He didn't get majority ownership until two thousand and five,

1846
01:37:29,680 --> 01:37:31,800
Speaker 1: so from seventy to two thousand and five he had

1847
01:37:31,920 --> 01:37:34,240
Speaker 1: less than half of the team, but he still was

1848
01:37:34,280 --> 01:37:36,400
Speaker 1: an owner. So I know, I feel like I took

1849
01:37:36,479 --> 01:37:38,120
Speaker 1: us down a bit of a rabbit hole there. But

1850
01:37:38,240 --> 01:37:41,800
Speaker 1: the point is, if the NFL is serious about its

1851
01:37:41,840 --> 01:37:43,960
Speaker 1: diversity issues, like I feel like it starts at the

1852
01:37:44,040 --> 01:37:45,840
Speaker 1: top just as much as it starts at the bottom.

1853
01:37:46,600 --> 01:37:49,720
Speaker 1: With Dominy Foxworth, the ESPN analyst, a farmer player in

1854
01:37:49,760 --> 01:37:51,920
Speaker 1: the league, seven seasons in the NFL, I want to

1855
01:37:51,920 --> 01:37:53,760
Speaker 1: switch gears on you a little bit, Dominique. You wrote

1856
01:37:53,800 --> 01:37:56,920
Speaker 1: a piece on the Undefeated part of the ESPN portfolio

1857
01:37:57,400 --> 01:37:59,280
Speaker 1: and a couple months ago at least I think it

1858
01:37:59,360 --> 01:38:02,799
Speaker 1: was after the seas and ended, but you interviewed Vante Davis,

1859
01:38:02,840 --> 01:38:05,120
Speaker 1: who is you know, a kind of mocked here in

1860
01:38:05,160 --> 01:38:07,600
Speaker 1: Buffalo for the way his career ended. Left at the

1861
01:38:07,840 --> 01:38:10,800
Speaker 1: at halftime of the home opener, and he had some

1862
01:38:10,920 --> 01:38:12,720
Speaker 1: interesting things to say. What did you take out of that?

1863
01:38:12,840 --> 01:38:16,000
Speaker 1: And how serious an offense was that for Dante Vante

1864
01:38:16,120 --> 01:38:20,400
Speaker 1: Davis to leave when he did. Yeah, it's tough, man,

1865
01:38:20,439 --> 01:38:22,640
Speaker 1: because when it's over in your mind, it's over. And

1866
01:38:23,240 --> 01:38:25,680
Speaker 1: I could understand being on that team and feeling like

1867
01:38:26,400 --> 01:38:29,360
Speaker 1: he left us high and dry, but I also could

1868
01:38:29,479 --> 01:38:33,160
Speaker 1: understand his position as he was done, and rather than

1869
01:38:33,280 --> 01:38:38,320
Speaker 1: like go through the motions, collected checks and spanking injuries

1870
01:38:38,520 --> 01:38:41,000
Speaker 1: and just be on the team and be taking up

1871
01:38:41,040 --> 01:38:43,120
Speaker 1: a spot, he thought the best thing to do was

1872
01:38:43,200 --> 01:38:46,639
Speaker 1: to lead at halftime. That's tough to do at that moment.

1873
01:38:46,720 --> 01:38:48,800
Speaker 1: But like I've been on teams where there are guys

1874
01:38:48,880 --> 01:38:52,640
Speaker 1: who is very clear are checked out and there they

1875
01:38:53,000 --> 01:38:55,639
Speaker 1: are bad for the culture of the team. The way

1876
01:38:55,680 --> 01:38:57,960
Speaker 1: that he did it is is imperfect, but I think

1877
01:38:58,000 --> 01:39:02,360
Speaker 1: that they the team galvanized around that, and I don't

1878
01:39:02,400 --> 01:39:05,639
Speaker 1: think obviously the thing that's been doing pretty good sense

1879
01:39:05,680 --> 01:39:09,000
Speaker 1: and gotten better since he left. So he seems happy

1880
01:39:09,080 --> 01:39:11,120
Speaker 1: with where he is in life. And it was interesting

1881
01:39:11,160 --> 01:39:13,360
Speaker 1: to be able to talk to him, because there were

1882
01:39:13,479 --> 01:39:15,560
Speaker 1: several things in him that I think a lot of

1883
01:39:15,600 --> 01:39:19,240
Speaker 1: players have to reckon with at some point, and when

1884
01:39:19,280 --> 01:39:21,120
Speaker 1: your career comes to an end, it comes to an end.

1885
01:39:21,160 --> 01:39:22,640
Speaker 1: And it was unique the way he did it, to

1886
01:39:22,760 --> 01:39:25,600
Speaker 1: timing and the style of what he did it. It

1887
01:39:25,760 --> 01:39:29,559
Speaker 1: was absolutely something that I think he deserved critices them

1888
01:39:29,600 --> 01:39:33,559
Speaker 1: for and he got but I think better after all,

1889
01:39:33,680 --> 01:39:34,920
Speaker 1: I mean, at the end of the day, they were

1890
01:39:34,920 --> 01:39:36,840
Speaker 1: all better off him and the team were better off

1891
01:39:36,920 --> 01:39:40,719
Speaker 1: parting ways. Yeah, there's something else that came out about

1892
01:39:40,720 --> 01:39:42,439
Speaker 1: one of the players that still playing in the National

1893
01:39:42,439 --> 01:39:44,320
Speaker 1: Football League was a high round draft pick for the

1894
01:39:44,360 --> 01:39:47,120
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills, Sammy Watkins. There was an article written about

1895
01:39:47,200 --> 01:39:50,640
Speaker 1: him that was wide ranging and where Sammy Watkins was

1896
01:39:51,000 --> 01:39:53,760
Speaker 1: very honest and very open with the interviewer and almost

1897
01:39:54,120 --> 01:39:57,559
Speaker 1: to the point where he's almost too open and honest almost.

1898
01:39:57,560 --> 01:40:00,120
Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on the City Watkins article and

1899
01:40:01,000 --> 01:40:04,200
Speaker 1: how intriguing it was of what he revealed. Yeah, it

1900
01:40:04,280 --> 01:40:06,280
Speaker 1: was a Bleacher Report piece that I read, and I

1901
01:40:06,400 --> 01:40:09,240
Speaker 1: thought it was like, at least for the first two paragraphs,

1902
01:40:09,280 --> 01:40:12,920
Speaker 1: like it was just crazy revelation after crazy revelation, and

1903
01:40:13,040 --> 01:40:14,720
Speaker 1: it was kind of blowing my mind, and I was

1904
01:40:14,800 --> 01:40:18,639
Speaker 1: half laughing because he was saying suggesting that he had

1905
01:40:18,680 --> 01:40:22,479
Speaker 1: like some psychic power to control people, and that he

1906
01:40:22,560 --> 01:40:27,240
Speaker 1: had been reincarnated several times, and that evil spirits around

1907
01:40:27,400 --> 01:40:30,799
Speaker 1: us and dreams aren't actually dreams. It's like you're passing

1908
01:40:30,880 --> 01:40:34,080
Speaker 1: to another dimension. Like I was laughing and thinking, this

1909
01:40:34,240 --> 01:40:36,280
Speaker 1: is like, I don't know what kind of drugs this

1910
01:40:36,400 --> 01:40:38,720
Speaker 1: guy's all. But by the time I got to the

1911
01:40:38,840 --> 01:40:41,439
Speaker 1: end of the piece, I figured out I learned more

1912
01:40:41,439 --> 01:40:44,040
Speaker 1: about his past and I started to reconsider some of

1913
01:40:44,080 --> 01:40:47,400
Speaker 1: the things that he presented, and honestly like the things

1914
01:40:47,400 --> 01:40:49,720
Speaker 1: that he was saying. The terminology was different, but the

1915
01:40:49,800 --> 01:40:51,439
Speaker 1: things that he was saying it is not much different

1916
01:40:51,479 --> 01:40:54,280
Speaker 1: than many of the religions, like the major religions that

1917
01:40:54,360 --> 01:40:59,200
Speaker 1: we accept. And I think his thought process is unusual,

1918
01:40:59,640 --> 01:41:02,519
Speaker 1: but it gave him away to make sense of a

1919
01:41:02,800 --> 01:41:04,840
Speaker 1: world that may seem chaotic. And I think that's what

1920
01:41:04,960 --> 01:41:08,160
Speaker 1: religion is. Forth While he may not frame it his

1921
01:41:08,560 --> 01:41:12,439
Speaker 1: feelings as religion, I think that's the purpose that it serves.

1922
01:41:12,479 --> 01:41:14,400
Speaker 1: And I know it sounds kind of crazy, but he

1923
01:41:14,520 --> 01:41:17,599
Speaker 1: was I certainly heard playing a teammates talk about how

1924
01:41:18,280 --> 01:41:20,240
Speaker 1: how they prayed for something to happen, and that's why

1925
01:41:20,280 --> 01:41:23,160
Speaker 1: it happened. That's no different than Sammy Walking watching saying

1926
01:41:23,280 --> 01:41:26,240
Speaker 1: that like he feels like he has some ability to

1927
01:41:26,320 --> 01:41:31,040
Speaker 1: control outcomes by thinking it, and him saying that he

1928
01:41:31,200 --> 01:41:35,200
Speaker 1: believes in reincarnation, Like that's something that many respective religions

1929
01:41:35,240 --> 01:41:38,519
Speaker 1: have and believe to be true and something that none

1930
01:41:38,520 --> 01:41:41,360
Speaker 1: of us can prove or disprove. So, like, I think

1931
01:41:41,400 --> 01:41:43,120
Speaker 1: it's easy to laugh at him, but it seems like

1932
01:41:43,160 --> 01:41:45,240
Speaker 1: he's in a good place. He's playing well, he's happier,

1933
01:41:45,600 --> 01:41:47,640
Speaker 1: and you know what helps everyone play well? Having a

1934
01:41:47,720 --> 01:41:50,080
Speaker 1: quarterback like Patrick Mahomes. That makes me feel good too.

1935
01:41:50,120 --> 01:41:52,360
Speaker 1: It maybe also makes me feel like I can control

1936
01:41:52,439 --> 01:41:55,599
Speaker 1: the world with my mind. That's a good point. Yeah.

1937
01:41:55,920 --> 01:41:59,280
Speaker 1: ESPN analysts Dominique Foxworth with us, what about a quarterback

1938
01:41:59,400 --> 01:42:01,600
Speaker 1: like Cam Newton still looking for a job, Dominique, and

1939
01:42:02,600 --> 01:42:04,720
Speaker 1: not too long ago you suggested that the best fit

1940
01:42:04,760 --> 01:42:06,320
Speaker 1: for him might be the Buffalo Bills. What do you

1941
01:42:06,400 --> 01:42:09,479
Speaker 1: think's going on with Cam? Yeah? I mean, I still

1942
01:42:09,520 --> 01:42:11,799
Speaker 1: don't think it's a bad idea to bring him in Buffalo.

1943
01:42:11,920 --> 01:42:14,680
Speaker 1: The only argument about bringing him into Buffalo is like

1944
01:42:14,760 --> 01:42:19,479
Speaker 1: it you feel like it might undercut whatever leadership role

1945
01:42:19,640 --> 01:42:22,640
Speaker 1: that Josh Allen has formed on the team, But I

1946
01:42:22,680 --> 01:42:24,559
Speaker 1: don't know. It's hard for me to understand what's happening

1947
01:42:24,640 --> 01:42:26,800
Speaker 1: with Cam Newton in a unique place in the league

1948
01:42:27,160 --> 01:42:30,400
Speaker 1: where there's no it seems like there's no team right

1949
01:42:30,479 --> 01:42:32,439
Speaker 1: now who needs a quarterback, and it's so rare. It

1950
01:42:32,439 --> 01:42:34,560
Speaker 1: seems like every team needs a quarterback. Everyone seems to

1951
01:42:34,600 --> 01:42:38,960
Speaker 1: be comfortable with their current quarterback situation. And given the

1952
01:42:39,040 --> 01:42:41,280
Speaker 1: fact that we can't, no one can get their hands

1953
01:42:41,400 --> 01:42:42,800
Speaker 1: on Cam dow and to really get to see it,

1954
01:42:43,160 --> 01:42:46,240
Speaker 1: see how well the injuries are doing just it makes

1955
01:42:46,280 --> 01:42:49,360
Speaker 1: it really difficult. So I wish that I had a

1956
01:42:49,439 --> 01:42:51,160
Speaker 1: better answer. I wish I had some more insight, but

1957
01:42:51,360 --> 01:42:54,200
Speaker 1: I don't understand it. And I imagine that Cam feels

1958
01:42:54,240 --> 01:42:57,479
Speaker 1: like he deserves to go somewhere and start, and it

1959
01:42:57,600 --> 01:43:00,519
Speaker 1: seems like there is nowhere looking to give him a

1960
01:43:00,600 --> 01:43:03,240
Speaker 1: chance to start right now. So I certainly don't get it.

1961
01:43:03,360 --> 01:43:08,280
Speaker 1: I do think that, yeah, aside from the I guess

1962
01:43:08,360 --> 01:43:11,040
Speaker 1: undercutting Josh Allen is a real concern, but I think

1963
01:43:11,160 --> 01:43:14,160
Speaker 1: him and Cam Newton are so similar in style of

1964
01:43:14,240 --> 01:43:17,759
Speaker 1: play that it will be really cool for Cam Newton

1965
01:43:17,840 --> 01:43:21,240
Speaker 1: to come to Buffalo. It really isn't irrelevant point that

1966
01:43:21,439 --> 01:43:24,599
Speaker 1: nobody knows how his injuries have healed from last year

1967
01:43:24,640 --> 01:43:26,720
Speaker 1: when he struggled, he couldn't get on the field at all.

1968
01:43:27,040 --> 01:43:31,080
Speaker 1: And that's always been the one red flag that stops

1969
01:43:31,200 --> 01:43:34,040
Speaker 1: every team from signing a guy is the medical. That's

1970
01:43:34,080 --> 01:43:35,680
Speaker 1: why they do the combine. It's one of the most

1971
01:43:35,720 --> 01:43:38,679
Speaker 1: important parts of that. And if Cam Newton, if nobody

1972
01:43:38,760 --> 01:43:41,400
Speaker 1: can clear him medically, nobody's going to sign a guy

1973
01:43:41,439 --> 01:43:44,400
Speaker 1: of that caliber or that kind of price tag to

1974
01:43:44,520 --> 01:43:48,080
Speaker 1: their roster. And if that's the case, I get it.

1975
01:43:48,280 --> 01:43:51,120
Speaker 1: But if it's not the case, does it say something

1976
01:43:51,160 --> 01:43:53,920
Speaker 1: about Cam that two guys who were very familiar with him,

1977
01:43:53,960 --> 01:43:57,479
Speaker 1: and Brandon Bean and Sean McDermott, if Buffalo's not interested

1978
01:43:57,560 --> 01:44:00,960
Speaker 1: in him, Does that ultimately come back on Cam because

1979
01:44:01,000 --> 01:44:04,400
Speaker 1: two guys so familiar with him want no part of him. Yeah,

1980
01:44:04,479 --> 01:44:07,400
Speaker 1: I mean, maybe it could, but it also could come

1981
01:44:07,479 --> 01:44:10,000
Speaker 1: back on them, Like I don't I don't know. I

1982
01:44:10,040 --> 01:44:14,080
Speaker 1: don't want to suggest that that there's any bad blood

1983
01:44:14,120 --> 01:44:17,280
Speaker 1: between them or neither group believes in one or the other.

1984
01:44:17,400 --> 01:44:19,920
Speaker 1: But I think that just it just as fair to

1985
01:44:20,000 --> 01:44:22,439
Speaker 1: say that maybe it reflects poorly on Cam, that it

1986
01:44:22,600 --> 01:44:25,280
Speaker 1: reflects poorly on them. If that's if they don't see

1987
01:44:25,320 --> 01:44:27,880
Speaker 1: the value in Cam Newton. I think the best argument,

1988
01:44:27,920 --> 01:44:29,439
Speaker 1: and one that I could understand, is the one that

1989
01:44:29,439 --> 01:44:31,439
Speaker 1: I already said, is like, you think you have a

1990
01:44:31,560 --> 01:44:34,280
Speaker 1: good quarter a good young quarterback in Josh Allen, and

1991
01:44:34,680 --> 01:44:37,519
Speaker 1: you don't want to disrupt whatever development he has by

1992
01:44:37,680 --> 01:44:41,040
Speaker 1: bringing in someone who's a former MVP, and is what

1993
01:44:41,280 --> 01:44:44,160
Speaker 1: thirty one now like, It's not like he's end of

1994
01:44:44,200 --> 01:44:46,080
Speaker 1: his career. I don't think Cam wherever he's gonna go

1995
01:44:46,320 --> 01:44:49,000
Speaker 1: is trying to be a mentor. So I think that's

1996
01:44:49,040 --> 01:44:53,000
Speaker 1: the if I was a part of the Bills organization,

1997
01:44:53,160 --> 01:44:55,560
Speaker 1: like that'd be what I'd be more most scared of,

1998
01:44:55,840 --> 01:44:59,719
Speaker 1: is is bringing in Cam Newton and Cam taking reps

1999
01:44:59,760 --> 01:45:02,760
Speaker 1: away from Josh Allen and slow in his development, or

2000
01:45:03,479 --> 01:45:06,000
Speaker 1: people on the team, Josh Allen having a bad game

2001
01:45:06,120 --> 01:45:08,000
Speaker 1: or a series of bad games and everyone on the

2002
01:45:08,080 --> 01:45:12,400
Speaker 1: team wanting Cam Newton to play. I could understand that argument.

2003
01:45:12,520 --> 01:45:15,920
Speaker 1: I personally would think, I think I'd rather go with

2004
01:45:16,000 --> 01:45:18,639
Speaker 1: Sam Newton, even given his injury history. But I could

2005
01:45:18,720 --> 01:45:21,519
Speaker 1: understand that argument if they see something in Josh Allen

2006
01:45:21,600 --> 01:45:23,479
Speaker 1: that I don't see, and they're around him every day,

2007
01:45:23,479 --> 01:45:25,960
Speaker 1: so I'm sure they know his potential better than I do.

2008
01:45:26,120 --> 01:45:28,559
Speaker 1: So that makes sense to me. Not bringing in Cam

2009
01:45:28,640 --> 01:45:31,000
Speaker 1: Newton because of whatever history that they have with him

2010
01:45:31,200 --> 01:45:33,599
Speaker 1: does not make sense to me, because Cam Newton can ball,

2011
01:45:33,720 --> 01:45:36,200
Speaker 1: and if he's healthy, which we all don't know, we're

2012
01:45:36,200 --> 01:45:38,600
Speaker 1: not too sure about giving the current situs given the

2013
01:45:38,640 --> 01:45:42,240
Speaker 1: current situation. If he's healthy, I think he's among the

2014
01:45:42,360 --> 01:45:43,880
Speaker 1: best in the league. And I think we all saw

2015
01:45:44,000 --> 01:45:47,679
Speaker 1: that before he got injured. He was on MVP track

2016
01:45:47,800 --> 01:45:50,679
Speaker 1: and on a team that doesn't have very many weapons,

2017
01:45:50,760 --> 01:45:53,759
Speaker 1: not nearly the weapons that are up Balton excuse in Baltimore,

2018
01:45:53,840 --> 01:45:57,000
Speaker 1: Ben Buffalo right now, I would agree with all of that,

2019
01:45:57,120 --> 01:46:01,000
Speaker 1: and I would also add this Cam Newton in is

2020
01:46:01,000 --> 01:46:03,200
Speaker 1: a backup. I think he is more fit to be

2021
01:46:03,280 --> 01:46:06,240
Speaker 1: a starting quarterback in the NFL, much more fit to

2022
01:46:06,320 --> 01:46:08,160
Speaker 1: be a starter than he is a backup. I don't

2023
01:46:08,160 --> 01:46:11,080
Speaker 1: think his temperament or his personality lend itself to being

2024
01:46:11,120 --> 01:46:13,280
Speaker 1: a guy who's a mentor behind the scenes, a thinker

2025
01:46:13,320 --> 01:46:14,960
Speaker 1: on the sidelines, a guy who's going to pull the

2026
01:46:15,000 --> 01:46:16,519
Speaker 1: guy off to the side and say, hey, here's what

2027
01:46:16,560 --> 01:46:19,120
Speaker 1: you're looking at. Here's what they're doing. He doesn't strike

2028
01:46:19,240 --> 01:46:21,720
Speaker 1: me as being as fit for that role as he

2029
01:46:21,800 --> 01:46:25,040
Speaker 1: does as being the guy actually on the field. I mean,

2030
01:46:25,120 --> 01:46:29,360
Speaker 1: no players really are like I feel like there'd be

2031
01:46:29,439 --> 01:46:31,320
Speaker 1: hard pressed to find any player or even the starter

2032
01:46:31,400 --> 01:46:33,760
Speaker 1: or a backup who has the mental makeup of a backup. Like.

2033
01:46:33,800 --> 01:46:36,200
Speaker 1: You don't get to the NFL by thinking that you

2034
01:46:36,240 --> 01:46:38,320
Speaker 1: shouldn't be on the field, So no player is really

2035
01:46:38,360 --> 01:46:41,080
Speaker 1: comfortable with that. I don't think Cam is any different

2036
01:46:41,320 --> 01:46:43,800
Speaker 1: in that way. I do think, though, if there was

2037
01:46:43,920 --> 01:46:47,240
Speaker 1: somebody that could mentor Josh Allen, Cam might be a

2038
01:46:47,360 --> 01:46:50,200
Speaker 1: guy to do it. And not that Cam has perfected

2039
01:46:51,040 --> 01:46:52,880
Speaker 1: his style of play year and a year out, but

2040
01:46:52,960 --> 01:46:55,040
Speaker 1: he's been able to do it on certain occasions. And

2041
01:46:55,120 --> 01:46:58,080
Speaker 1: I think that his set of fields big arm, big body,

2042
01:46:59,200 --> 01:47:04,200
Speaker 1: super athletic not always the most accurate like these are.

2043
01:47:05,040 --> 01:47:06,760
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure as you couldn't tell which one or

2044
01:47:06,800 --> 01:47:09,320
Speaker 1: the two of those guys I'm describing, it seems so similar.

2045
01:47:09,320 --> 01:47:11,840
Speaker 1: I don't know that there's anybody else in the league

2046
01:47:12,200 --> 01:47:14,600
Speaker 1: that would be it would have had some of the

2047
01:47:14,680 --> 01:47:17,840
Speaker 1: similar experiences as Josh Allen on the field as Cam Newton,

2048
01:47:17,960 --> 01:47:20,000
Speaker 1: So I can understand not bringing them in for a

2049
01:47:20,080 --> 01:47:23,439
Speaker 1: whole host of reasons, but I do think that if

2050
01:47:23,640 --> 01:47:26,320
Speaker 1: if nothing else, Josh Allen and the coaches staff there

2051
01:47:26,400 --> 01:47:28,400
Speaker 1: should be watching some Cam Newton tape and trying to

2052
01:47:28,439 --> 01:47:30,880
Speaker 1: pick something out about that, because I do think that

2053
01:47:31,240 --> 01:47:34,439
Speaker 1: if they leaned into more of the Cam style of offense,

2054
01:47:35,600 --> 01:47:37,880
Speaker 1: then away from the things that they've been doing with Josh,

2055
01:47:37,960 --> 01:47:39,800
Speaker 1: I think that their team might get a little bit better.

2056
01:47:40,800 --> 01:47:43,120
Speaker 1: Live with Demini Fox towards the ESPN analyts want to

2057
01:47:43,160 --> 01:47:45,479
Speaker 1: switch years. One last time with you, Dominique, and I

2058
01:47:45,600 --> 01:47:48,280
Speaker 1: read a Twitter post that you had about you know,

2059
01:47:48,439 --> 01:47:51,840
Speaker 1: this is in the aftermath of the Last Dance on ESPN,

2060
01:47:51,920 --> 01:47:54,479
Speaker 1: and you wrote about how you interviewed Michael Jordan's about

2061
01:47:54,520 --> 01:47:56,320
Speaker 1: three years ago and it got kind of emotional with

2062
01:47:56,479 --> 01:47:59,719
Speaker 1: m J Hunt. Yeah. Now, it was a cool situation.

2063
01:47:59,800 --> 01:48:04,560
Speaker 1: So it was a Gatorade was doing a document a

2064
01:48:04,680 --> 01:48:07,479
Speaker 1: podcast series and they asked me to host it. So

2065
01:48:07,560 --> 01:48:10,280
Speaker 1: I interviewed a bunch of their athletes and Jordan was

2066
01:48:10,360 --> 01:48:12,960
Speaker 1: one of them. He was filming a commercial and down

2067
01:48:13,000 --> 01:48:15,160
Speaker 1: in North Carolina at its high school, and I just

2068
01:48:15,240 --> 01:48:19,759
Speaker 1: sat with him for about thirty minutes and in his trailer,

2069
01:48:19,840 --> 01:48:22,280
Speaker 1: which was like a random cool occurrence that I got

2070
01:48:22,320 --> 01:48:25,639
Speaker 1: to do that. I'm sure lots of journalists would love

2071
01:48:25,720 --> 01:48:28,439
Speaker 1: to get that opportunity. The funny thing is they ended

2072
01:48:28,520 --> 01:48:33,559
Speaker 1: up Jordan's people like quashed it because they were still

2073
01:48:33,600 --> 01:48:36,559
Speaker 1: working on this deal for the documentary that eventually came out,

2074
01:48:36,640 --> 01:48:39,920
Speaker 1: so we didn't use it. But it didn't matter to me.

2075
01:48:40,040 --> 01:48:41,679
Speaker 1: I got the chance to sit and talk to Michael

2076
01:48:41,760 --> 01:48:43,800
Speaker 1: Jordan and he talked about his parents. It was a

2077
01:48:44,080 --> 01:48:48,360
Speaker 1: cool emotional situation because it's not until the documentary documentary

2078
01:48:48,400 --> 01:48:51,680
Speaker 1: aired you so rarely see what feels like a genuine

2079
01:48:51,880 --> 01:48:54,400
Speaker 1: moment from Michael Jordan, and it felt like I experienced

2080
01:48:54,439 --> 01:48:58,680
Speaker 1: one face to face, which was cool. And I don't know.

2081
01:48:58,760 --> 01:49:01,720
Speaker 1: I would love for them to release it one day,

2082
01:49:01,760 --> 01:49:03,519
Speaker 1: but honestly, I don't care. It doesn't change the fact

2083
01:49:03,560 --> 01:49:05,840
Speaker 1: that I had that moment. It was unique for me.

2084
01:49:05,920 --> 01:49:08,439
Speaker 1: And now I'll tell my kids about it if they ever,

2085
01:49:08,560 --> 01:49:10,679
Speaker 1: if they care about Michael Jordan at some point, which

2086
01:49:10,840 --> 01:49:15,559
Speaker 1: I'm not sure that they will, they should, yeah done,

2087
01:49:15,960 --> 01:49:20,400
Speaker 1: I mean they I don't know. Yeah, I know. Hey, Dominic,

2088
01:49:20,479 --> 01:49:22,000
Speaker 1: thanks for it's great to talk with you. Great to

2089
01:49:22,040 --> 01:49:23,519
Speaker 1: catch up with you. Thanks coming on with us today.

2090
01:49:23,520 --> 01:49:27,599
Speaker 1: We appreciate it, no problem, guys, thanks for having me. Thanks.

2091
01:49:27,800 --> 01:49:31,920
Speaker 1: How many parts dominic ESPN analysts contributed to The Undefeated.

2092
01:49:32,160 --> 01:49:34,680
Speaker 1: It's where the article of Vante Davis was posted a

2093
01:49:34,720 --> 01:49:37,599
Speaker 1: couple of months ago. Former player seven seasons in the NFL,

2094
01:49:37,880 --> 01:49:40,400
Speaker 1: and he's got a degree from Harvard Business School. Steve,

2095
01:49:40,760 --> 01:49:42,680
Speaker 1: you don't sneeze at that, dude, Please don't. I do

2096
01:49:42,800 --> 01:49:46,360
Speaker 1: not sneeze at that. Okay, not at all. And he's

2097
01:49:46,400 --> 01:49:49,920
Speaker 1: a really intelligent guy, really well spoken, and and he's thoughtful,

2098
01:49:49,960 --> 01:49:53,680
Speaker 1: and he he has a real great point of view

2099
01:49:53,760 --> 01:49:56,120
Speaker 1: you in a sense of perspective about everything he lays

2100
01:49:56,120 --> 01:49:58,880
Speaker 1: eyes on in the NFL. And his opinions I think

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Speaker 1: are as valid. We're may perhaps more valid than a

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Speaker 1: lot of people's we talked to on the show. I'm

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Speaker 1: really interested in hearing more from him. Yeah, smart guy.

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Speaker 1: Good to hid him on the show. Hey, we got

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01:50:08,920 --> 01:50:10,800
Speaker 1: an interesting Twitter poll up. We'd love to We've got

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Speaker 1: time to get your reaction in the remaining minutes of

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Speaker 1: the show. Which Bills player will get his first Pro

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01:50:15,200 --> 01:50:17,320
Speaker 1: Bowl nod this season? Who would it be? At eight

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Speaker 1: hundred and thirty five votes in on the Twitter poll,

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Speaker 1: and almost half forty four percent of you say it's

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen, the thirty two percent say it'll be Stefan Diggs,

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Speaker 1: nineteen percent say Jordan Poyer, five percent of somebody else

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Speaker 1: in mind. We'll take on all commers. Give us a

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Speaker 1: call eight oh three h five fifty outside Buffalo, toll

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Speaker 1: free at one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty,

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Speaker 1: and we'll go to the tweet sheet and read some

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Speaker 1: of your tweets as well when we come back. Come

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Speaker 1: on back with us one. Bill's Live presented by Kalida Health.

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Speaker 1: This is Buffalo Bill's Radio Blcome Back. It's twenty five

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Speaker 1: Job Works, the team Tasker. We're here until three, about

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01:50:55,240 --> 01:50:57,639
Speaker 1: thirty minutes ago. We're asking a question which Bill's player

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01:50:58,000 --> 01:50:59,640
Speaker 1: we'll make the Pro Bowl for the first time to

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01:50:59,680 --> 01:51:02,679
Speaker 1: see on the Twitter pole. Will give you Josh Allen

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01:51:02,800 --> 01:51:05,720
Speaker 1: or Stefan Diggs, or Jordan Poyer or somebody else, but

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01:51:05,880 --> 01:51:07,800
Speaker 1: the whole range of the roster eighty eight players is

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01:51:07,840 --> 01:51:09,240
Speaker 1: open to you. Right, I'll give us a call eight

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Speaker 1: oh three five fifty toll free from outside Buffalo one

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Speaker 1: eight five fifty two five fifty I'm gonna pad ourselves.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna pad you and producer Jay Harris on the

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01:51:18,120 --> 01:51:20,160
Speaker 1: Backyard Steve. I think both of our guests today, Bill

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01:51:20,200 --> 01:51:23,439
Speaker 1: Paulian and Dominique Foxworth, we went along in both interviews,

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01:51:23,520 --> 01:51:26,240
Speaker 1: which indicates they're both got a lot to say. Both

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01:51:26,240 --> 01:51:28,920
Speaker 1: guys are pretty interesting talkers. Yeah they do, Yeah, they do,

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01:51:29,000 --> 01:51:31,000
Speaker 1: Bill Poland. Bill's got such a wealth of knowledge, and

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01:51:31,400 --> 01:51:34,360
Speaker 1: Dominique has such a great perspective on everything. He's a

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01:51:34,400 --> 01:51:37,760
Speaker 1: former player, he was a president of the NFLPA, and

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01:51:38,200 --> 01:51:41,920
Speaker 1: you know, he's obviously highly educated and articulate, and he

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01:51:41,960 --> 01:51:45,200
Speaker 1: has a a and he's a great observer yea, And

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01:51:45,360 --> 01:51:49,320
Speaker 1: that's his ability to communicate what he observes is awesome.

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01:51:49,439 --> 01:51:50,920
Speaker 1: And it's a lot of fun to listen to him

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01:51:51,120 --> 01:51:53,240
Speaker 1: and have and have a discussion with him about really

2142
01:51:53,320 --> 01:51:55,599
Speaker 1: relevant subjects. We had a really good discussion with him

2143
01:51:56,040 --> 01:51:57,400
Speaker 1: in no hurry, you know, getting him off the air

2144
01:51:57,439 --> 01:52:00,479
Speaker 1: in fifteen minutes. Right, I'm not right either, get you

2145
01:52:00,560 --> 01:52:02,960
Speaker 1: know that stuff to say, they're gonna say it. Bill

2146
01:52:03,120 --> 01:52:07,519
Speaker 1: was on for thirty five. It was fun though, it

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01:52:07,640 --> 01:52:09,920
Speaker 1: was really good. Hey, so I did the Twitter poll.

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01:52:09,920 --> 01:52:11,559
Speaker 1: How about this Steve. This is coming up this weekend.

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01:52:11,560 --> 01:52:13,800
Speaker 1: I just got an email about it. Um And in

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01:52:13,880 --> 01:52:17,559
Speaker 1: these days when we watched sports documentaries, we watch old

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01:52:17,640 --> 01:52:20,439
Speaker 1: hockey games and we watch old football games. Here's some

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01:52:20,680 --> 01:52:23,960
Speaker 1: fresh new sports coming up. Three o'clock this Sunday afternoon.

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Speaker 1: It's the match Champions for Charity. It's gonna be on

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01:52:27,360 --> 01:52:30,600
Speaker 1: TNT Sunday, and I'm not rooting for Rain, but I

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01:52:30,680 --> 01:52:32,200
Speaker 1: think I'd like to find my way to a TV

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01:52:32,320 --> 01:52:35,000
Speaker 1: set to watch this. It's Tom Brady and Peyton Manning

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01:52:35,240 --> 01:52:38,800
Speaker 1: against Phil Nicholson and Tiger Woods. That could be pretty cool, right,

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01:52:38,920 --> 01:52:41,920
Speaker 1: and really cool action Three o'clock Sunday afternoon. Yeah, it's

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01:52:42,320 --> 01:52:46,960
Speaker 1: Tiger and Peyton against Phil and Tom. Right, I'm not

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01:52:47,040 --> 01:52:50,000
Speaker 1: sure how they're I think that's it. I think Tiger

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Speaker 1: and Tiger and Peyton have been friends for a long time.

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01:52:52,680 --> 01:52:57,080
Speaker 1: They've they've been golfing compadres. I've heard through the grape

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01:52:57,120 --> 01:53:01,400
Speaker 1: fine and I think TV and Phil when you think

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01:53:01,439 --> 01:53:05,439
Speaker 1: about it's four guys from two different sports, all go

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01:53:05,560 --> 01:53:08,360
Speaker 1: by first names. You know it's right, yeah, right? You

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01:53:08,360 --> 01:53:10,720
Speaker 1: can say any one of them? Well, can you say Tom?

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01:53:10,760 --> 01:53:13,560
Speaker 1: And everybody knows you're talking about Brady Well and in

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01:53:13,680 --> 01:53:19,080
Speaker 1: that conversation, yeah kind of time. Even even even Robert

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01:53:19,160 --> 01:53:25,400
Speaker 1: Kraft calls him Tommy. All right, so uh right, uh yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's gonna it's awesome. And there was one of those

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Speaker 1: on this weekend with U uh Ricky Fowler and uh

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Speaker 1: and Rory McElroy, uh, Deston Johnson and Wolf. Uh. The

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01:53:38,400 --> 01:53:40,960
Speaker 1: other the golf was Wolf and and that was kind

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Speaker 1: of I enjoyed watching that because it's very casual. I think, yeah,

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01:53:46,280 --> 01:53:49,320
Speaker 1: it was Skins Skins game going on, so they it

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01:53:49,400 --> 01:53:51,799
Speaker 1: didn't you know, nobody could run off and leave anybody.

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01:53:51,960 --> 01:53:54,000
Speaker 1: Every hole was brand new match and it was it

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Speaker 1: was it was fun to watch. I didn't know the

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Speaker 1: golfer Wolf that they used had the funky swing, and

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01:53:59,080 --> 01:54:02,960
Speaker 1: he the guy may be great, a great guy and

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01:54:03,080 --> 01:54:06,439
Speaker 1: all that, but certainly Ricky Fowl or Dustin Johnson or

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01:54:06,520 --> 01:54:10,439
Speaker 1: Rory McElroy are three really household names. He was not.

2183
01:54:10,680 --> 01:54:12,800
Speaker 1: And he was the one with the funky swing. So

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01:54:12,960 --> 01:54:17,600
Speaker 1: it was one guy that it was like Rory, you know,

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01:54:18,520 --> 01:54:22,160
Speaker 1: Justin Johnson and Ricky Fowler were playing with me and

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01:54:22,240 --> 01:54:24,240
Speaker 1: you right when you or I were the fourth guy,

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01:54:24,400 --> 01:54:26,240
Speaker 1: right you know, so you know we had the funky

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01:54:26,320 --> 01:54:28,280
Speaker 1: Swing and we're the ones that you know, he's the

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01:54:28,360 --> 01:54:30,479
Speaker 1: guy that you know, lost his temper and you know,

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01:54:30,640 --> 01:54:33,080
Speaker 1: dropped dropped a couple of swear words during the broad

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01:54:33,200 --> 01:54:36,640
Speaker 1: you know, he was a guy, right, It was great.

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Speaker 1: So that was that was fun um, But this one

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01:54:40,200 --> 01:54:43,400
Speaker 1: this weekend, because I think it'll be it's really fun

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01:54:43,480 --> 01:54:45,520
Speaker 1: to see the other side of these guys when when

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01:54:45,560 --> 01:54:48,520
Speaker 1: they're grinding out these competitive things, when Phil Mickelson and

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01:54:48,960 --> 01:54:51,320
Speaker 1: and Tiger and those guys, I'm sure they're all gonna

2197
01:54:51,360 --> 01:54:54,520
Speaker 1: be miked up. They're all gonna be uh on on

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01:54:55,280 --> 01:54:57,920
Speaker 1: um to entertain us, and we're gonna get to see

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Speaker 1: a different side of We see peyton side all the

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01:54:59,840 --> 01:55:02,240
Speaker 1: time time with Peyton's places and that kind of Peyton's

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Speaker 1: on TV more than Tom Brokaw everyone, right, I mean, yeah, yeah,

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01:55:07,960 --> 01:55:10,440
Speaker 1: that's stretching about this. They're all uh, they're all good.

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01:55:10,520 --> 01:55:12,320
Speaker 1: You know, they're pretty good guys. That'll be fun to watch.

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01:55:12,560 --> 01:55:15,480
Speaker 1: They're all really intense competitors and that'll come out, don't

2205
01:55:15,520 --> 01:55:19,000
Speaker 1: you think Between Man and Brady and Tiger and Phil,

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01:55:19,080 --> 01:55:20,720
Speaker 1: that'll come out a little bit. They're gonna want to

2207
01:55:20,760 --> 01:55:22,800
Speaker 1: win all of them. You don't think those guys are

2208
01:55:22,880 --> 01:55:26,680
Speaker 1: taking practice wings right now. Yeah, yeah, you think about it.

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01:55:26,800 --> 01:55:30,080
Speaker 1: Those guys are grinding in a way, thinking, man, I

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01:55:30,200 --> 01:55:33,560
Speaker 1: gotta and really the only one who does has to

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01:55:33,640 --> 01:55:35,600
Speaker 1: do that as Brady, Right, he's the only one that's

2212
01:55:35,600 --> 01:55:38,200
Speaker 1: in the wrong sport. I mean, Tiger and Phil probably

2213
01:55:38,200 --> 01:55:40,879
Speaker 1: do it all the time anyway. Right then Peyton's retired

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01:55:42,040 --> 01:55:44,720
Speaker 1: and Brady's getting ready for a season. Right, He's actually

2215
01:55:44,800 --> 01:55:47,760
Speaker 1: got a job, so he may be the one that

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01:55:47,840 --> 01:55:49,480
Speaker 1: has to say, listen, I gotta, I gotta spend some

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01:55:49,560 --> 01:55:52,400
Speaker 1: time getting ready for this thing, you know, So it'll

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01:55:52,440 --> 01:55:55,320
Speaker 1: be really interesting to see. I'm sure you know in

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01:55:55,440 --> 01:55:58,000
Speaker 1: your CDs years and as a player, you've met both

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01:55:58,040 --> 01:56:01,640
Speaker 1: Brady and Manning, right, you know. Picture what about Nicholson

2221
01:56:01,680 --> 01:56:03,320
Speaker 1: er Woods, Have you ever had any encounters with him?

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01:56:04,360 --> 01:56:07,640
Speaker 1: I met Phil Mickelson at I don't know whether it

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01:56:07,720 --> 01:56:10,200
Speaker 1: was I think it was the PGA in Rochester. I

2224
01:56:10,240 --> 01:56:13,760
Speaker 1: met him like for five seconds, okay, five seconds? Tiger,

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01:56:13,880 --> 01:56:18,440
Speaker 1: No Peyton, yes, of course, Tom, Yeah, Micholson came over.

2226
01:56:18,520 --> 01:56:20,320
Speaker 1: You were gone from the Bills. But when the Bills

2227
01:56:20,360 --> 01:56:23,320
Speaker 1: were training at Fisher and the PGA was across the

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01:56:23,360 --> 01:56:26,040
Speaker 1: street to o'killen Miicholson came over to watch. He was

2229
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Speaker 1: a Bills fan. He came over to watch the Bill's

2230
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Speaker 1: practice and did a press conference after that. It was

2231
01:56:29,880 --> 01:56:31,640
Speaker 1: kind of cool. He was he was a good guy. Yeah,

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01:56:31,680 --> 01:56:34,240
Speaker 1: they're yeah, they're both. They're all really good guys. And

2233
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Speaker 1: and you know, I will tell you this. Michelson at

2234
01:56:36,640 --> 01:56:38,760
Speaker 1: one point while practice is going out and picked up

2235
01:56:38,760 --> 01:56:41,680
Speaker 1: a football left handed right and just played catch with somebody.

2236
01:56:41,760 --> 01:56:43,680
Speaker 1: And just by the way he threw it, you can

2237
01:56:43,760 --> 01:56:46,400
Speaker 1: see and you know he's he looks a certain way,

2238
01:56:46,440 --> 01:56:48,000
Speaker 1: but you can see this guy's an athlete. He was

2239
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Speaker 1: a premium athlete. The way he was just throwing a

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Speaker 1: football fifteen yards or some guy downfield, you could tell. Yeah,

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01:56:53,280 --> 01:56:55,920
Speaker 1: And I've had this conversation with everybody. See these guys

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01:56:56,000 --> 01:56:58,040
Speaker 1: cross over in sports, and you see him dabble in

2243
01:56:58,120 --> 01:56:59,920
Speaker 1: some other stuff. Most of the football players that I

2244
01:57:00,160 --> 01:57:02,960
Speaker 1: know that I grew up playing with. Football is one

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01:57:03,000 --> 01:57:07,000
Speaker 1: of the few sports where you're not really required or

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01:57:07,000 --> 01:57:09,200
Speaker 1: at least in during the time, you weren't really required

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01:57:09,240 --> 01:57:11,680
Speaker 1: to like specialize in just football at an early age

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01:57:11,720 --> 01:57:14,880
Speaker 1: because football was so physical, they didn't care if you

2249
01:57:14,920 --> 01:57:16,520
Speaker 1: went out and played baseball. You know, they didn't care

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Speaker 1: if you went out and played hoops, you know, because

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01:57:18,600 --> 01:57:20,520
Speaker 1: the chances are more that you were going to get

2252
01:57:20,600 --> 01:57:22,600
Speaker 1: hurt playing football than you were into these other sports.

2253
01:57:22,640 --> 01:57:25,960
Speaker 1: So more so than any other sport, it lends itself

2254
01:57:26,040 --> 01:57:30,480
Speaker 1: to being a sport where it's players also play other things.

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Speaker 1: And I said this to a lot of people during

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Speaker 1: my playing days. You pick a football player, particularly one

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Speaker 1: of the athletes, not necessarily but not limited to the

2258
01:57:38,920 --> 01:57:41,480
Speaker 1: you know, the receivers, dbs and stuff. Some of the

2259
01:57:41,600 --> 01:57:45,440
Speaker 1: offensive linemen they grow into that offensive lineman. Kent Hall

2260
01:57:45,560 --> 01:57:48,840
Speaker 1: was a quarterback in high school. He was a hoops

2261
01:57:48,920 --> 01:57:51,480
Speaker 1: player in high school. All these guys you and I

2262
01:57:51,640 --> 01:57:56,000
Speaker 1: was my contention, You give a football you know, one

2263
01:57:56,000 --> 01:57:57,960
Speaker 1: of these pro athletes at the right age when they

2264
01:57:58,000 --> 01:58:03,320
Speaker 1: were growing up any other sports, a golf club, a baseball, bat,

2265
01:58:03,720 --> 01:58:05,840
Speaker 1: any of that other stuff, they would have been a

2266
01:58:05,920 --> 01:58:09,400
Speaker 1: high level athletes in other any just about any other

2267
01:58:09,440 --> 01:58:12,800
Speaker 1: sport you can name. And it's really I think it's true,

2268
01:58:12,880 --> 01:58:14,800
Speaker 1: not only a football, but I think it's probably true.

2269
01:58:14,880 --> 01:58:16,800
Speaker 1: Like you say, of golf, you see these guys like

2270
01:58:16,920 --> 01:58:19,920
Speaker 1: Tiger and Phil pick up something else and it's like, Hey, oh,

2271
01:58:20,440 --> 01:58:22,720
Speaker 1: he knows what he's doing. You know, yeah, it's pretty

2272
01:58:22,760 --> 01:58:24,360
Speaker 1: fun to say, think about. We'll get a chance to

2273
01:58:24,360 --> 01:58:26,840
Speaker 1: see it with Peyton and Tom against these two guys.

2274
01:58:27,120 --> 01:58:29,680
Speaker 1: Let me find Sunday three PMTNT. Hey, let's take a

2275
01:58:29,720 --> 01:58:32,640
Speaker 1: couple of phone calls. We're talking about which Bill's player

2276
01:58:32,760 --> 01:58:34,920
Speaker 1: get their first Pro Bowl? Not this season, Patrick, and

2277
01:58:35,040 --> 01:58:37,360
Speaker 1: Syracuse has a thought on this. Patrick, go ahead, you're

2278
01:58:37,400 --> 01:58:41,000
Speaker 1: round the air with this. Hey, guys, lifelong fan of

2279
01:58:41,040 --> 01:58:44,560
Speaker 1: both of you, guys, first time caller. My guy have

2280
01:58:44,760 --> 01:58:49,600
Speaker 1: in mind is Matt Milano. I mean last year, you

2281
01:58:49,680 --> 01:58:52,120
Speaker 1: look the way he pursues the ball and its intensity

2282
01:58:52,160 --> 01:58:55,960
Speaker 1: towards the game coming out of blocks in college. He

2283
01:58:56,120 --> 01:58:58,040
Speaker 1: may not have one of the most sought after guy,

2284
01:58:58,720 --> 01:59:03,200
Speaker 1: but I remember his first year seeing ramone Humber start

2285
01:59:03,280 --> 01:59:06,200
Speaker 1: over him. I was ready to put my nails in

2286
01:59:06,240 --> 01:59:09,160
Speaker 1: the wall. This guy has always better the competitor. He

2287
01:59:09,240 --> 01:59:11,040
Speaker 1: puts his hard towards the game, and I'd love to

2288
01:59:11,080 --> 01:59:13,840
Speaker 1: see him make his first first Pro Bowl. I mean,

2289
01:59:14,200 --> 01:59:16,480
Speaker 1: all the rest of the fix to Ponzig obviously, if

2290
01:59:16,480 --> 01:59:18,320
Speaker 1: he has a great season, we'd all love to see.

2291
01:59:18,400 --> 01:59:21,080
Speaker 1: To those fans Josh Allen, if he has a Pro

2292
01:59:21,200 --> 01:59:24,840
Speaker 1: Bowl season. That means most likely we're getting to the playoffs. Um,

2293
01:59:25,240 --> 01:59:26,800
Speaker 1: but the guy I got in mind is at Milanto

2294
01:59:26,840 --> 01:59:29,800
Speaker 1: for sure. I think there two years ago by the

2295
01:59:29,800 --> 01:59:32,240
Speaker 1: way that Humber was playing in place of Milano. Right,

2296
01:59:32,400 --> 01:59:40,440
Speaker 1: not last year, but right to go ahead, Uma ahead,

2297
01:59:40,480 --> 01:59:44,280
Speaker 1: Patrick looking back to looking back to the Houston game. Um,

2298
01:59:45,280 --> 01:59:49,960
Speaker 1: that play that was our demise in the downfall, the

2299
01:59:50,080 --> 01:59:53,200
Speaker 1: way he pursues the Shawn Watson, it looked like he

2300
01:59:53,320 --> 01:59:55,640
Speaker 1: had the tackle wrapped up, but the way his momentum

2301
01:59:55,680 --> 01:59:57,680
Speaker 1: came into de Shaun Watson, it just didn't work out

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01:59:57,720 --> 02:00:01,760
Speaker 1: for him. If he makes that tackle, it's a completely

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02:00:01,760 --> 02:00:05,440
Speaker 1: different story for the guy, and he's possibly a national headline. Yeah,

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02:00:05,480 --> 02:00:07,680
Speaker 1: it's a completely different story game, that's for sure. Go ahead.

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Speaker 1: Stevie had something to say. You're right. And Milano is

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Speaker 1: one of those guys that's easy to root for. He's

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Speaker 1: a fifth round draft pick. He came in and he's

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Speaker 1: being he's played extremely well since day one, and I

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02:00:20,880 --> 02:00:24,680
Speaker 1: think that's been the thing. And Ramone Humber didn't start

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02:00:24,680 --> 02:00:29,480
Speaker 1: over Matt Milano for very long. Milano just absolutely earned

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02:00:29,520 --> 02:00:33,600
Speaker 1: his way onto the football field, and I think I

2312
02:00:33,720 --> 02:00:35,520
Speaker 1: think there's a chance he would have been at least

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02:00:35,600 --> 02:00:39,200
Speaker 1: a Pro Bowl alternate already had he stayed healthy for

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02:00:39,360 --> 02:00:42,280
Speaker 1: all his career or his young career. I think he

2315
02:00:42,280 --> 02:00:44,960
Speaker 1: would already been on the list of Pro Bowlers who

2316
02:00:45,000 --> 02:00:47,840
Speaker 1: would have been either a first alternate or a second

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02:00:47,880 --> 02:00:49,760
Speaker 1: alter or one of those kind of guys if if

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Speaker 1: he have stayed healthy. I firmly believe that Chactrick. Thanks

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Speaker 1: for a call. Here's a call from Jerry in Buffalo.

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Speaker 1: Go ahead, Jerry, Oh, hey, guys, thanks for taking my call.

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Speaker 1: Longtime fan of both of you. First off, I want

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Speaker 1: to say, Steve, I'm in total agreement of that idea

2323
02:01:05,880 --> 02:01:10,040
Speaker 1: that you had regarding the seventeen game season where you uh,

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02:01:10,560 --> 02:01:14,320
Speaker 1: you know, sixteen you play sixteen games, or how however

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02:01:14,360 --> 02:01:17,760
Speaker 1: you broke it down. I know you and John disagreed

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Speaker 1: on that, but I thought your idea was spot on.

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02:01:20,120 --> 02:01:23,920
Speaker 1: Totally agree with that. Anyway you have disagree on that,

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02:01:24,000 --> 02:01:29,680
Speaker 1: but go ahead. Especially as a special teams player, I'm

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02:01:29,800 --> 02:01:33,360
Speaker 1: wondering whether with the athleticism that the quarterbacks, especially with

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Speaker 1: Jos Josh Allen, exhibit, whether in like a short yardage

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02:01:38,440 --> 02:01:41,840
Speaker 1: situation or favorable position. You're forty one yard line. Let's

2332
02:01:41,840 --> 02:01:49,040
Speaker 1: say of the other team, fourth and two a QB,

2333
02:01:49,240 --> 02:01:52,080
Speaker 1: maybe a pooch punt with the option instead of a

2334
02:01:52,200 --> 02:01:55,320
Speaker 1: quick toss or run you know where, like instead of

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02:01:55,440 --> 02:01:58,040
Speaker 1: having a punterback there, you got somebody who's really capable

2336
02:01:58,120 --> 02:02:00,880
Speaker 1: of presenting an offensive play to the defense, where now

2337
02:02:00,960 --> 02:02:03,000
Speaker 1: they have to look at both things, you know, And

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02:02:03,080 --> 02:02:05,440
Speaker 1: I'm just wondering, you know, I'm always you know, it's

2339
02:02:05,480 --> 02:02:07,120
Speaker 1: just a far fetched idea, but I just want to

2340
02:02:07,600 --> 02:02:09,560
Speaker 1: know what that might be. What do you think of that,

2341
02:02:09,640 --> 02:02:11,480
Speaker 1: Steve doesn't I mean, I don't want to answer for

2342
02:02:11,560 --> 02:02:14,000
Speaker 1: he Steven, but it's all about field position and down

2343
02:02:14,080 --> 02:02:16,480
Speaker 1: in distance. Right on the right field position, down in distance,

2344
02:02:16,520 --> 02:02:20,000
Speaker 1: what he suggests would absolutely work right right with it.

2345
02:02:20,080 --> 02:02:22,280
Speaker 1: You're talking about a quick kick with an option to

2346
02:02:22,560 --> 02:02:24,200
Speaker 1: just pull it down and run for the first down.

2347
02:02:24,240 --> 02:02:25,720
Speaker 1: If it's a fourth and two on the you know,

2348
02:02:25,840 --> 02:02:29,920
Speaker 1: just at the very fringe of field goal range. Another

2349
02:02:29,960 --> 02:02:32,840
Speaker 1: first down would really be great to put you into

2350
02:02:32,880 --> 02:02:35,200
Speaker 1: closer field goal range, even if you can't extend to

2351
02:02:35,320 --> 02:02:40,000
Speaker 1: drive after that. But using your big, strong quarterback, just

2352
02:02:40,200 --> 02:02:42,839
Speaker 1: drop him back into either punt formation or in pistol

2353
02:02:42,920 --> 02:02:45,960
Speaker 1: formation or something. If he gets the right look, you

2354
02:02:46,120 --> 02:02:48,840
Speaker 1: kick the ball, you know, into the off out the

2355
02:02:48,920 --> 02:02:51,200
Speaker 1: corner of the end zone, or just just tumble it,

2356
02:02:51,320 --> 02:02:54,000
Speaker 1: kick it and let it tumble along down down the

2357
02:02:54,280 --> 02:02:56,760
Speaker 1: field and you can go down and down it, or

2358
02:02:57,640 --> 02:02:59,880
Speaker 1: just tucking it under his arm and running for the

2359
02:03:00,080 --> 02:03:03,080
Speaker 1: first down. It is creative. It is a little bit

2360
02:03:03,120 --> 02:03:05,320
Speaker 1: off the hook. You need the right guy, and Josh

2361
02:03:05,360 --> 02:03:07,600
Speaker 1: Allen would be that kind of guy to make that

2362
02:03:07,760 --> 02:03:13,160
Speaker 1: kind of play. The situation would dictate it, and you

2363
02:03:13,280 --> 02:03:16,120
Speaker 1: know you gotta go, you know, kind of walk down

2364
02:03:16,160 --> 02:03:18,560
Speaker 1: the rabbit hole with it, because then what formation would

2365
02:03:18,600 --> 02:03:20,400
Speaker 1: you use? What would give him the chance that if

2366
02:03:20,440 --> 02:03:23,640
Speaker 1: he gets the ball, he's gonna have space to punt

2367
02:03:23,680 --> 02:03:28,280
Speaker 1: it if he needs to, and still have enough be quick,

2368
02:03:28,400 --> 02:03:31,720
Speaker 1: hitting enough to run for the first down and have

2369
02:03:31,840 --> 02:03:35,360
Speaker 1: a reasonable chance of making it. So would he drop

2370
02:03:35,440 --> 02:03:38,000
Speaker 1: all the way back in punt formation? I don't think so,

2371
02:03:38,560 --> 02:03:41,280
Speaker 1: because then you add fifteen yards to a two yard

2372
02:03:41,400 --> 02:03:44,120
Speaker 1: run to a two yard gain for the first down.

2373
02:03:44,280 --> 02:03:47,240
Speaker 1: If he's under center, you ain't gonna have enough room

2374
02:03:47,280 --> 02:03:50,960
Speaker 1: to punt it. So it's all about the formation and

2375
02:03:51,280 --> 02:03:53,160
Speaker 1: what you expect from the defense that would make a

2376
02:03:53,200 --> 02:03:55,440
Speaker 1: play like that possible, but certainly it's it's kind of

2377
02:03:55,480 --> 02:03:57,640
Speaker 1: a fun idea to think about. Thanks for your call.

2378
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Speaker 1: We're gonna take a break. Here one Bill slide presented

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Speaker 1: like a health This is Buffalo Bills Radio Time. Now

2380
02:04:14,520 --> 02:04:16,480
Speaker 1: for what have we learned? Brought to you by Skyworks,

2381
02:04:16,520 --> 02:04:20,040
Speaker 1: the official construction equipment rental company of the Buffalo Bills.

2382
02:04:20,080 --> 02:04:21,680
Speaker 1: What have we learned? Today? We have Bill Pauline on

2383
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Speaker 1: the show today, hall of famer, former Bills GM, former coach,

2384
02:04:25,240 --> 02:04:28,040
Speaker 1: GM in president, former Carolina GM. He talked about the

2385
02:04:28,120 --> 02:04:30,920
Speaker 1: current Buffalo Bills team of the twenty twenty season and

2386
02:04:31,040 --> 02:04:33,640
Speaker 1: how they compare with the ninety Super Bowls teams. Here's

2387
02:04:33,680 --> 02:04:37,640
Speaker 1: what Bill Paulian said. Let's look at the Bills today.

2388
02:04:38,120 --> 02:04:43,520
Speaker 1: They're built with a very solid philosophical core. One, they're

2389
02:04:43,520 --> 02:04:49,000
Speaker 1: going to play great defense, very important in any division,

2390
02:04:49,160 --> 02:04:53,240
Speaker 1: but much more important in the division the Bills are

2391
02:04:53,320 --> 02:04:58,280
Speaker 1: in than many of the others. Secondly, they're gonna be

2392
02:04:58,440 --> 02:05:02,160
Speaker 1: really good taking care of the fo paul Third they're

2393
02:05:02,160 --> 02:05:06,680
Speaker 1: going to play with guys that are a good character,

2394
02:05:07,480 --> 02:05:10,920
Speaker 1: hard working guys that buy into the program, that do

2395
02:05:11,720 --> 02:05:14,920
Speaker 1: what Sean wants them to do, and they don't deviate

2396
02:05:15,560 --> 02:05:19,600
Speaker 1: from that blueprint. Sounds familiar. It's exactly what we did

2397
02:05:19,640 --> 02:05:22,560
Speaker 1: in a good old face, Bill Paul, and it was

2398
02:05:22,600 --> 02:05:25,520
Speaker 1: a good interview. Can catch it on our website a

2399
02:05:25,520 --> 02:05:27,720
Speaker 1: little bit later on on the Bill's head. Also today,

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Speaker 1: Dominique Foxworth, former NFL player, former president of the Players Association,

2401
02:05:32,440 --> 02:05:34,920
Speaker 1: now an analyst at ESBM. He talked about the recent

2402
02:05:35,000 --> 02:05:37,760
Speaker 1: proposal to reward teams for a hiring minority coaches. The

2403
02:05:37,880 --> 02:05:41,240
Speaker 1: GM's using draft order as an example. And here's what

2404
02:05:41,360 --> 02:05:44,680
Speaker 1: Dominique Foxworth said to us today about that plan. The

2405
02:05:44,840 --> 02:05:48,200
Speaker 1: draft order is determined by how bad you suck. Like,

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Speaker 1: I'm not trying to reward people from being bad like

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02:05:50,840 --> 02:05:54,760
Speaker 1: I've much rather reward teams for being progressive and addressing

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02:05:54,840 --> 02:05:58,200
Speaker 1: something that the NFL, whether fans think it's an issue

2409
02:05:58,280 --> 02:06:00,640
Speaker 1: or not, the NFL recognizes to something that they want

2410
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Speaker 1: to address. Having a very few black or minority candidates

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Speaker 1: in leadership roles something that they want to address, Like

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Speaker 1: why not reward them for in the third round. Like

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02:06:11,360 --> 02:06:13,200
Speaker 1: I'm not saying you should get the first overall pick,

2414
02:06:13,320 --> 02:06:16,440
Speaker 1: but why not reward them for complying with the things

2415
02:06:16,480 --> 02:06:19,200
Speaker 1: that you want? Rather than reward them for reward teams

2416
02:06:19,240 --> 02:06:23,040
Speaker 1: for going out there and being trash. He makes a

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02:06:23,160 --> 02:06:25,760
Speaker 1: good point. I thought box Worth and Poli and made

2418
02:06:25,800 --> 02:06:29,040
Speaker 1: good points in the sea. Yeah they did, and Dominique

2419
02:06:29,120 --> 02:06:31,680
Speaker 1: was all over. He had he admitted he had changed

2420
02:06:31,800 --> 02:06:35,320
Speaker 1: his mind about this reward draft pick. He had come

2421
02:06:35,320 --> 02:06:37,280
Speaker 1: out against it, as did a lot of guys come

2422
02:06:37,280 --> 02:06:39,880
Speaker 1: out against. They didn't want to be they would you

2423
02:06:40,040 --> 02:06:43,280
Speaker 1: feel like it was you were hamstrong in that they

2424
02:06:43,640 --> 02:06:46,040
Speaker 1: they hired you to get the third round draft pick

2425
02:06:46,160 --> 02:06:47,840
Speaker 1: rather than to have you do the good job. But

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02:06:47,920 --> 02:06:49,920
Speaker 1: he didn't make the point that if you didn't hire

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02:06:49,960 --> 02:06:52,160
Speaker 1: the guy, you're not going to keep him around anyway

2428
02:06:52,160 --> 02:06:53,680
Speaker 1: if he can't do the job. And there are a

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02:06:53,720 --> 02:06:55,480
Speaker 1: lot of guys out there who will do a really

2430
02:06:55,600 --> 02:06:57,920
Speaker 1: good job. And if you can kick in a third

2431
02:06:58,040 --> 02:07:00,600
Speaker 1: round draft pick, you'll do it and you're get a

2432
02:07:00,680 --> 02:07:03,320
Speaker 1: GM that could stick around your organization for a decade.

2433
02:07:03,360 --> 02:07:05,680
Speaker 1: And that's that's a nice place to be, you know what,

2434
02:07:05,840 --> 02:07:07,680
Speaker 1: dominic while he was talking, I was thinking about might

2435
02:07:07,760 --> 02:07:11,040
Speaker 1: be what might be a solution is awarding incentives to

2436
02:07:11,040 --> 02:07:14,680
Speaker 1: team that just interviews minority that interview minority candidates. Other words,

2437
02:07:14,720 --> 02:07:16,000
Speaker 1: you don't have to hire a guy, but just the

2438
02:07:16,120 --> 02:07:18,960
Speaker 1: fact that you brought in two or three minority candidates

2439
02:07:19,000 --> 02:07:21,640
Speaker 1: because the problem, it seems many people have said the

2440
02:07:21,760 --> 02:07:25,520
Speaker 1: problem is many minority candidates don't have an exposure to

2441
02:07:25,640 --> 02:07:28,360
Speaker 1: owners and big decision makers. They don't get face time

2442
02:07:28,440 --> 02:07:30,360
Speaker 1: with them. So maybe if your reward teams were just

2443
02:07:30,520 --> 02:07:33,360
Speaker 1: interviewing them at a lesser level than a third round

2444
02:07:33,400 --> 02:07:35,440
Speaker 1: pick or moving up six spots, just give them something,

2445
02:07:35,720 --> 02:07:37,760
Speaker 1: some sort of incentive for at least bringing guys in

2446
02:07:37,840 --> 02:07:39,160
Speaker 1: and talking to them. What do you think would that

2447
02:07:39,200 --> 02:07:42,640
Speaker 1: work better? There's something that makes some sense, you know,

2448
02:07:42,800 --> 02:07:44,960
Speaker 1: get You've got to get them exposed and get them

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02:07:45,000 --> 02:07:47,560
Speaker 1: in the in the cycling of you know, because a

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02:07:47,680 --> 02:07:49,480
Speaker 1: lot of it is these same names. You know, there's

2451
02:07:49,480 --> 02:07:52,200
Speaker 1: only there's thirty two spots, and there's thousands of football

2452
02:07:52,280 --> 02:07:54,720
Speaker 1: coaches out there and thousands of you know, leaders of

2453
02:07:54,960 --> 02:07:59,000
Speaker 1: men who who do this position, coaches, coordinators, guys who

2454
02:07:59,040 --> 02:08:01,840
Speaker 1: have been coordinates in the past, all of that stuff.

2455
02:08:01,880 --> 02:08:03,760
Speaker 1: There's a whole roster of guys out there, and to

2456
02:08:03,920 --> 02:08:08,440
Speaker 1: get them into the group or the short list of

2457
02:08:08,640 --> 02:08:12,360
Speaker 1: guys that are worthy can candidates is the big goal.

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02:08:12,480 --> 02:08:15,160
Speaker 1: I think. I think that if you put a quality

2459
02:08:15,240 --> 02:08:18,240
Speaker 1: candidate in front of an ownership group or a GM

2460
02:08:18,440 --> 02:08:21,680
Speaker 1: or whoever's hiring headed coaches or owners who are hiring gms.

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02:08:22,040 --> 02:08:24,320
Speaker 1: If you put these guys in front of them, they'll

2462
02:08:24,360 --> 02:08:27,040
Speaker 1: recognize them for what they are, and that's quality candidates. Yeah,

2463
02:08:27,080 --> 02:08:28,800
Speaker 1: I agree. I'm glad the NFL is talking about it. Hey,

2464
02:08:28,800 --> 02:08:30,960
Speaker 1: we had a pretty good Twitter boll today. Which Bill's

2465
02:08:30,960 --> 02:08:33,280
Speaker 1: player will get their first Pro Bowl out of the season.

2466
02:08:33,560 --> 02:08:35,880
Speaker 1: Would it be Josh Allen forty five percenting you say

2467
02:08:35,920 --> 02:08:38,720
Speaker 1: he's the one. Would it be Stefan Diggs thirty two percent?

2468
02:08:38,760 --> 02:08:41,040
Speaker 1: Would it be Jordan Boyer nineteen percent. That's out of

2469
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Speaker 1: eight hundred and seventy four votes. That's pretty good, Steve.

2470
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Speaker 1: We got another show to do tomorrow and then the

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Speaker 1: weekend off for Memorial Day. Looking forward to tomorrow show. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: holiday weekend coming up. It's always something to look forward to.

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Speaker 1: But the show tomorrow will be a good one as well.

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Speaker 1: Our production assistance Kelly Rude, JJ Turto, Kevin carg James

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Speaker 1: Robo board Ops, Brayton Wilson, Joe de bianc ever Do

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Speaker 1: to Jay Harris. We'll see tomorrow at twelve noon one.

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