1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: Ron Anian, You're not gonna believe the answer. Well, maybe 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 1: you will believe the answer. The answer was, well, you know, 3 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:09,720 Speaker 1: we had to take apart the entire engine, the whole engine, 4 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:13,320 Speaker 1: and it's very difficult and almost impossible to put it 5 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 1: back together the way the factory assembled it. Seriously, yeah, seriously, 6 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 1: what they're given. Because I'm working for the Car Doctor. 7 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 1: Let's say you've got a Blend or actuator issue that 8 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 1: maybe the blend doors stuck or the actuator isn't working. 9 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 1: What did they tell you it was going to take 10 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 1: to fix? But take the whole dash port apart. That's correct. 11 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 1: Welcome to the radio home of ron and Anian, the 12 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:39,640 Speaker 1: Car Doctor, since this is where car owners the world 13 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:44,199 Speaker 1: overturned to for their definitive opinion on automotive repair. If 14 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 1: your mechanics giving you a busy signal, pick up the 15 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 1: phone and call in. The garage doors are open, but 16 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:53,280 Speaker 1: I am here to take your calls at eight five 17 00:00:52,840 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 1: five and now running. You know, each and every week 18 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 1: I think, well, there'll be nothing to talk about on 19 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 1: Saturday or the weekend, depending upon where I do this show, 20 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:08,120 Speaker 1: and however it comes out, And I think to myself, 21 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 1: what can I possibly say? And then I go to 22 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:13,839 Speaker 1: work on Monday and I get to collect information all 23 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:18,680 Speaker 1: week long. So where do we start. I'm gonna start 24 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 1: kind of in the middle of the week because this 25 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:23,679 Speaker 1: one came up mid to late week and I just 26 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 1: want to see if it makes as much sense to 27 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 1: me as it as it does to you, and vice versa. 28 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 1: Two thousand seven, Ford Edge got got brought into the 29 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 1: shop late in the week this week Thursday, I think 30 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 1: it was, and actually Wednesday, Um it was Wednesday. We 31 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:42,119 Speaker 1: were off on Friday this month. This week we take 32 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 1: the first Friday off to get a little mental health 33 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 1: time and some resuscitation, and um, you know it, I've 34 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 1: never seen a positive battery terminal this bed in a while. 35 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 1: It's just it was just disgusting. It was just and 36 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 1: it was hidden under one of the rubber boots that 37 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 1: Ford puts on these vehicles, so it's you know, you're 38 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 1: not necessarily gonna see it unless you go looking. And 39 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 1: in the case of this vehicle, this particular customer was 40 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 1: not a fan of maintenance. Just you know, I just 41 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 1: want to get by. I just want to get by. 42 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:10,800 Speaker 1: I just want to get by. And then finally it 43 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:12,640 Speaker 1: got to the point where getting by it in count 44 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 1: because it wouldn't start. And at first I said, well, 45 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 1: you know, okay, um it doesn't start. I didn't really 46 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:21,640 Speaker 1: think it was that big a deal. It wasn't started, 47 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 1: just lack of maintenance on the battery, and it's gonna 48 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 1: need a battery. The battery was I think seven years old. 49 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 1: It was a Walmart special. Nothing against Walmart, but you 50 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 1: know their batteries. It's seven years old. It wasn't installed 51 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 1: by repair shop and I'm not sure who did it. 52 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 1: And um, I I say that because I questioned was 53 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 1: the battery registered, you know, in this particular vehicle. It 54 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 1: didn't need to be, but I always wondered, just you know, 55 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 1: I wonder when that's going to stop. That's a different conversation. 56 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 1: And we also had to repair the battery hole down 57 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 1: that was stripped out by the previous installed and that's 58 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 1: the one that kind of got me. We had to 59 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:55,080 Speaker 1: do some repairs to that so it would stay in 60 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:58,360 Speaker 1: its place. But it was the other things that we found. 61 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 1: It was the back breaks that were metal on metal 62 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 1: grinding away. It was the front brakes that we're about 63 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:05,520 Speaker 1: to go metal on metal. And when we were looking 64 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:08,399 Speaker 1: at the front breaks. Danny happened to grab the right 65 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:11,519 Speaker 1: front wheel to turn it to one side so we 66 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 1: could get a better look at the pads. Is the 67 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:16,800 Speaker 1: wheel supposed to move three inches without the rest of 68 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 1: the steering moving. Is it supposed to go clunk um? 69 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:24,080 Speaker 1: We just kind of looked at each other and you know, 70 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 1: rattled it back and forth. kN knna, I think that's bad. 71 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 1: Whatever there is that's bad. And it turns out the 72 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 1: outer tyrod on the right front of this edge was 73 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 1: so bad I was afraid to look at it for 74 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 1: the fact that it would fall off the car. It 75 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 1: was just terrible. So I got the call up the 76 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 1: owner and I kind of got to yell at him. 77 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 1: And it's not that I like the yell at people, 78 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 1: but I kind of like to make my point and said, 79 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 1: you know, listen, not for nothing, but you know, the 80 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 1: universe did you a favor. God decided you've had enough 81 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:00,839 Speaker 1: abusing this cards to if you to put some money 82 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 1: in it or stop driving it, because one pothole and 83 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 1: one hit and that car would have just lost the 84 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 1: tyrod and you would have been who knows where. And 85 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 1: we had to talk about it, and we talked about 86 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 1: rear brakes and tyrod and need some you know, frontwork, 87 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:16,719 Speaker 1: and need alignment, needed a battery that I said, I, 88 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 1: you know, to grant round numbers, just trying to be 89 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 1: round numbers off the top of my head late in 90 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:23,920 Speaker 1: late in the day on Thursday, when we talked about 91 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:25,599 Speaker 1: late in the day on Wednesday, when we talked about 92 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:28,159 Speaker 1: this into Thursday morning, and it kind of went back 93 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:29,840 Speaker 1: and forth and back and forth, and we had the 94 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 1: vehicle apart on the rack and I said listen, because 95 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 1: he said to me, said listen, just put it together, 96 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 1: put it outside. We'll make a decision Monday. And I'm 97 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 1: telling you this story not because we fixed the car. 98 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 1: I mean, geez, that's what we do, right, We're supposed 99 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:47,920 Speaker 1: to fix cars. I'm telling you this because I want 100 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:50,840 Speaker 1: you to start to think a little bit harder and 101 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 1: use this maybe as your barometer on do you or 102 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 1: do you not fix the vehicle in question? What do 103 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:00,360 Speaker 1: you think in oh, seven fourth edge is worth? Let's 104 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 1: start to think about that. It's fifteen years old, that 105 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 1: had a hundred and fifty thousand miles on it, and 106 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 1: it wasn't in terrible shape. The body was fairly intact 107 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:11,840 Speaker 1: and had a couple of scrapes and and and and 108 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 1: you know marks on it, but nothing. You know, there's 109 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 1: no parts saying off. All the lights were working. It 110 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 1: was very functional. It would have gone through the car wash, 111 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 1: it would have cleaned up great. You know, what do 112 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:23,360 Speaker 1: you think that car is worth? And in his mind 113 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 1: Kevin said, well what could it be worth? Ron? It's 114 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 1: it's worth two grand. You know. The dealer offered me 115 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:33,039 Speaker 1: dollars on trade in when I called up inquiring about 116 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 1: a new car, and I said, yeah, but what are 117 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 1: you gonna you know, what are you gonna pay for 118 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:40,920 Speaker 1: that new vehicle? Well, we didn't get to that yet. 119 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 1: And can you find a new vehicle right now? Well, 120 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 1: we didn't get to that yet either. You know what 121 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 1: we got to it? I said, Kevin, you can't find 122 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 1: a new car right now. If you can, you're gonna 123 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:53,600 Speaker 1: pay a market premium. What kind of car does your 124 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:55,720 Speaker 1: wife want to drive? Because his goal was he was 125 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:57,479 Speaker 1: gonna take his wife's old car and she was going 126 00:05:57,560 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 1: to get the new one. She probably mad at me, 127 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:01,839 Speaker 1: but not really. I think she liked the addition. Didn't 128 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 1: have to spend this kind of money. Said, well, my 129 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 1: wife wants a you know, a new Tahoe or a 130 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 1: Tahoe is a replacement, even a couple of years old. 131 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:11,480 Speaker 1: I said, well, let's see new Chevy tahos or about 132 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:16,719 Speaker 1: eighty grand. God almost choke up just saying that, um, 133 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 1: new Chevy Tahoe's or eighty grand. Um? You know? He says, yeah, 134 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 1: but my my edge is only worth and why would 135 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 1: I put two grand in it? I said, your your 136 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 1: age is worth more than hundred dollars. You want to 137 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 1: know the trick. You want to know what your car 138 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 1: is worth? Your car in a way, your car is 139 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 1: worth what it's gonna cost you to replace, but in 140 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 1: actual cash value. Go to the internet, right ever here 141 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 1: the Internet, it's that thing you go up to the 142 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:45,360 Speaker 1: computer and you go dinking lots of information there and 143 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 1: go to that manufacturer's nearest dealer, whoever it might be. 144 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 1: Or type ind in his case, I said, Kevin, type 145 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:53,840 Speaker 1: in oh seven Ford Edge for sale near me up 146 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 1: on the magic Google machine, and sure enough he came 147 00:06:57,360 --> 00:06:59,040 Speaker 1: across a few of them. One of them was a 148 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 1: two thousand and eight Ford Edge with two hundred thousand 149 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 1: miles on it, and it was being sold on the 150 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 1: dealer a lot for eight grand. He was stunned. I 151 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 1: wasn't you know. Listen, that's what cars are worth. Now. 152 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 1: The two mile car that's fifteen years old could be 153 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 1: worth eight grand. It could be worth more because when 154 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 1: you look at it and the fact that you can't 155 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 1: necessarily get one as fast as you used to be 156 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 1: able to the fact that you're probably gonna pay a 157 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 1: market search charge. And we're hearing more and more stories 158 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 1: about that three to five thousand dollars. You know you 159 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 1: want another car? Yeah, well, you know there's a shortage 160 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 1: for it. Had an article this morning. I was reading 161 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 1: it that the chip shortage is going to cause them 162 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 1: to shut down up the eight production plans in the 163 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 1: next two months, if not sooner. So what is that 164 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 1: used car worth? Here's the key on what makes us 165 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 1: a success. No brag, just fact, you gotta have a 166 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 1: good mechanic working on the car, all right. Doesn't have 167 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:00,160 Speaker 1: to be me, doesn't have to be my guys, But 168 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 1: it's just you gotta have a good mechanic working on 169 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 1: the car. Because you've got an idiot, it's still gonna 170 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 1: come out broken and wrong. And that's really the key factor. 171 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 1: So if you've got a good mechanic and your vehicle 172 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 1: is in need of work, and you've been putting it 173 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 1: off thinking it's not worth anything. Take the test. It's easy, 174 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 1: it's cheap, it's free. Go out to the internet. Type 175 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 1: in your vehicle. What's your vehicle worth of the dealer 176 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 1: was selling it on the lot, or if anybody was 177 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 1: selling it, what's that car is worth? In the in 178 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:33,439 Speaker 1: the public market today because used cars are at a premium, 179 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:35,840 Speaker 1: And if you've got somebody competent that came turn wrenches 180 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:38,560 Speaker 1: and fix the car, it might be to your advantage 181 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:42,840 Speaker 1: to fix the car if you've got a lease. And 182 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 1: I tell you that, I don't know if I told 183 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 1: you this story. I recently um one of the Inanian 184 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:52,199 Speaker 1: family UH members had a has a lease that's expiring 185 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 1: in April on a vehicle and can't find a car. 186 00:08:56,960 --> 00:08:58,839 Speaker 1: And my suggestion was go to the least company. In 187 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:00,840 Speaker 1: this case it was Ford. Go to Ford Motor Credit, 188 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 1: asked him if you can extend the lease. She can, 189 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 1: She can extend it another six months, and then she 190 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 1: can extend it. She can extend it more time after that. 191 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 1: If she has an order in for a new car, 192 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:15,680 Speaker 1: that she can't get so the credit companies, I will say, Ford, 193 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 1: I know fort In Toyota does this. I'm sure others do. 194 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 1: I can only want to tell you firsthand information, but 195 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 1: there are cases now where they're extending leases, so you 196 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:31,679 Speaker 1: have options. Believe me. If you've got a decent used 197 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 1: car and it needs tires, break, suspension, basic stuff, it's 198 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:39,439 Speaker 1: to your advantage to fix it. It might even be 199 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 1: to your advantage to put a transmission in a major repair. 200 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:46,680 Speaker 1: I mean, think about it. If he needed a transmission 201 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 1: this two thousand seven Ford Edge, Kevin, if he needed 202 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 1: a trans and it was five grand or six grants 203 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:54,960 Speaker 1: six grand and two grands eight grand, that's the value 204 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 1: of that oh seven edge. And then he's got a 205 00:09:57,040 --> 00:09:59,200 Speaker 1: vehicle with a good trans if he's done his oil changes, 206 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 1: which he has, you know that car will probably go 207 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 1: another three years. And when you compare that to a 208 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 1: replacement vehicle, you know, start looking at the mileage on 209 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 1: the replacement used car market, and then start looking at 210 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 1: the price of the new cars. Forget lack of availability. 211 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 1: All of a sudden, that used car might be worth fixing. 212 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 1: Just just point a point of point of presentation, all right, 213 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:26,960 Speaker 1: And The easiest way to figure out what it's worth 214 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:29,680 Speaker 1: go to the dealer website and see what they're selling 215 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 1: them for, and then you'll get an idea of where 216 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 1: they are on trade and are they really offering you 217 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 1: a good value? Sometimes they do, sometimes they don't. Eight 218 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 1: five five zero. I'm run anating in the car doctor. 219 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 1: I'll be back right after this and we can kick 220 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 1: the garage doors open and get to the busy phones. 221 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 1: Don't go away. Whether it's a little red Corvette or 222 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 1: you go. You've come to the right place to get 223 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 1: that car fixed. Ron and Ady in the car doctor, 224 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 1: five five zero zero zero. Now back to on. Hey, 225 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:12,439 Speaker 1: let's get over to Florida. Is that canute in Florida? 226 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 1: Do I have that right? Yeah? It's indeed. How are 227 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 1: you doing right? Good sir? How are you? How can 228 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:20,200 Speaker 1: to help? Well? Our quick story? I called you several 229 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 1: years ago. My wife had a forester and she was 230 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:25,320 Speaker 1: so proud of it, and she came up with the name. 231 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 1: She says, I call it Subi And your response was yeah, 232 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:34,079 Speaker 1: you and everybody else we still laugh about that one. Anyway, anyway, 233 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:37,440 Speaker 1: go ahead, what's going on? So? Anyway? I got a 234 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 1: two thousand nine Mercury Mariner with the three point o 235 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:45,439 Speaker 1: the six and the automatic two zone climate control instead 236 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 1: of the cheap one. And all of a sudden, the 237 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 1: blowers is stuck on high, blowing like crazy. Couldn't even 238 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:58,720 Speaker 1: shut it off with the on off switch. Um. And 239 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 1: so I replaced the blower resistor block they call it, 240 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 1: but it's the electronic version and and the motor. And 241 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 1: it came back on and fan speed sounded really good, 242 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:15,840 Speaker 1: wasn't sluggish or anything like it was overloading the block. 243 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:20,960 Speaker 1: And it blew again a couple of months later. Um, 244 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:24,320 Speaker 1: So I went, maybe the climate control panel is bad. 245 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:26,559 Speaker 1: So I bought one of those used and put it, 246 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:31,839 Speaker 1: put it in, and it blew U two more times, 247 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:34,720 Speaker 1: two or three more times. Luckily I had a lifetime 248 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 1: warranty from the large auto parts chain, and they're they're 249 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 1: publicly traded stock probably plummeted after me taking advantage of 250 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 1: the warranty three times. And uh and then and then 251 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:51,200 Speaker 1: it was interesting because my wife only drives the car 252 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 1: too or three times a year, and it blew both 253 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 1: times that she was playing with the air conditioner and 254 00:12:57,480 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 1: I said, well, she said, oh, I blew it up, 255 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 1: so you can't do that. And she said, I said 256 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 1: that you pushed the air conditioning button before you turned 257 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 1: the system on. She said, probably, and and so we 258 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:19,959 Speaker 1: replaced it twice. And then uh again, I just want 259 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:22,200 Speaker 1: to put a new block in, and I hit the 260 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 1: air conditioner button without the system on and it blew 261 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:30,680 Speaker 1: again instantly. Any thoughts, Well, first of all, the first 262 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 1: thing I want to mention is these this particular vehicle. 263 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 1: There's a bulletin out for this bulletin fourteen dish oh, 264 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 1: go back and read it August of that talks about 265 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:46,440 Speaker 1: repeated blower motor resistor failure. And part of the issue 266 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 1: is and I just want to cover this. I don't 267 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 1: know this is necessarily your issue, but I just want 268 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:55,080 Speaker 1: to say that. You know, this bulletin talks about the 269 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:58,559 Speaker 1: cowl panel up on top at the base of the windshield, 270 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 1: the seal there is an adequate and if water gets 271 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 1: in there will aim directly for the blower resistor and 272 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:08,840 Speaker 1: take it out. Now, is it a coincidence that it 273 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:10,840 Speaker 1: happens as soon as you hit the A C button. 274 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 1: It shouldn't matter, you know, the A C buttons shouldn't 275 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 1: shouldn't do that. Um, you know, so now I'm going 276 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 1: to get into what are we missing? What are we lacking? 277 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 1: Is it something in the way the aftermarket part is 278 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 1: manufactured versus a motorcraft piece, and that's always possible. What 279 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 1: I would tell you is, um, I would tell you 280 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 1: to go look at this bulletin make sure we don't 281 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 1: have water intrusion water as an issue. Getting in second, 282 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 1: do you have a way to measure current? Can you 283 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 1: tell can you measure current pull of the blower motor itself? Um? 284 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 1: I haven't, but I've got a meter with the current 285 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 1: capability right, you know, take a look at what fuse 286 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 1: is protecting the blower motor. If the blower motor's got 287 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 1: a thirty am fuse, you've you're going to expect to 288 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 1: see that blower motor pull Ten to twelve amps is 289 00:14:55,680 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 1: a quick spec. It's usually a third. Um you know, yeah, 290 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 1: I tend to twelve on full blast. If you see more, 291 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 1: and obviously I'm gonna encourage it. Let's get a spec 292 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:07,160 Speaker 1: for it and we could figure it out using homes 293 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 1: law if we had to. But you know, do I 294 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 1: have a blower that's failing causing high resistance hydraw? Now, 295 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 1: sometimes blower motors, blower motor issues on these vehicles, depending 296 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 1: upon if it if it even has one, could be 297 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 1: a restricted cabin filter. But I'm gonna guess and say, 298 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 1: if it has one, you're probably past that. You sound 299 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 1: smart enough, like you would have looked at that already. 300 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:32,200 Speaker 1: I just it blows really good. And like I say, 301 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 1: the motor sounds free. Doesn't sound like there's any bearing 302 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 1: issues or anything. Right. Well, you you may not. You 303 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 1: may not. You may not see it as a as 304 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:44,240 Speaker 1: a as a bearing issue. You may not even see 305 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 1: it as anything other than the blower just has high 306 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 1: current drowne. It creates excess load on the circuit um. 307 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:55,720 Speaker 1: And this is automatic tempt control. Correct correct? Yeah, okay, 308 00:15:55,760 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 1: you know and if you find if you go through 309 00:15:57,880 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 1: all this and you find this continues, then we've got 310 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 1: to start to think about do we have you know, 311 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 1: something's creating a short that's causing the blower to fail, 312 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 1: and are the resistor to fail rather, I'm sorry, Um, 313 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 1: what I would what I would start to also look 314 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 1: at is that resistor block is grounded. Um, I don't 315 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:20,400 Speaker 1: recall at the top of my head, but it's gonna 316 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:21,880 Speaker 1: have it's gonna I think it has two powers in 317 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:26,200 Speaker 1: the ground. Do I have a good ground connection? You know? 318 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 1: Is the is the resistor block overloading itself because of 319 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 1: high resistance in the ground, creating too much heat and 320 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 1: causing it to fail? Yeah? Like I said, the one 321 00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 1: time it's failed, it failed instantly when I put a 322 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 1: new one in there, which is interesting, I mean boom 323 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 1: like that it was dead. Can I ask you what 324 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 1: what are you paying for the resistor blocks? What brand does? Uh? 325 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 1: It says seventy it's seventy three bucks out of righty? 326 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 1: And is I did? I did start at Auto Zone 327 00:16:56,880 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 1: and they had two defective ones right off the shelf. 328 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 1: That and do anything right China? Can you say China? Yeah? Yeah, 329 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:09,160 Speaker 1: China our next state. Um. You know, I would be curious, 330 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:11,800 Speaker 1: and I always play this game. I would be curious, 331 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 1: what is that part worth from Ford? And what is 332 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:17,640 Speaker 1: Ford doing different than than you have to market manufacturer? 333 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:20,119 Speaker 1: And sometimes it's as simple as that, and you end 334 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 1: up pulling your hair out over you know, just a badly, 335 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:25,719 Speaker 1: badly manufactured part and you get to go through all 336 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:28,320 Speaker 1: these tests and find out I should have had a 337 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:36,440 Speaker 1: V eight. Um, I wish I had a Yeah, I understand. Okay, Yeah, 338 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:39,159 Speaker 1: I don't think there's any water intrusion. There's no indication 339 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:42,359 Speaker 1: in the socket or anything of any you know, build 340 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:45,400 Speaker 1: up with any Kelcy humor and as clean as a whistle, 341 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:49,920 Speaker 1: right right, So I would, um, you know, where where 342 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 1: are we here? It's it's it's either it's either draw ground, 343 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 1: um or we've got an issue. And I don't see 344 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:57,400 Speaker 1: why we would have an issue with the control head 345 00:17:57,440 --> 00:18:00,119 Speaker 1: because it originally the part didn't fail like that. You 346 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:03,120 Speaker 1: didn't indicate that to me, so and again I did, 347 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:07,359 Speaker 1: but I did just through your whole control panel outright, 348 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 1: So I don't Yeah, I don't see that. Um, I 349 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:12,080 Speaker 1: think your issue is going to be more part related, 350 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 1: more along the lines of something we talked about. So 351 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 1: go through those tests, call me back, and I'm here 352 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 1: for you if you need me. I'm running any of 353 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:47,880 Speaker 1: The car Doctor will return right after this welcome back round. 354 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:50,680 Speaker 1: Naming the car Doctor. He just a quick tip for you, Carlson. 355 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:53,520 Speaker 1: Everybody knows the name Carlson. Carlson Quality break Parts, right, 356 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 1: They've been around forever, and um, they're always innovating and 357 00:18:56,560 --> 00:18:58,960 Speaker 1: coming up with new products to the aftermarket. And I 358 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:01,239 Speaker 1: just want to point out every only came across in 359 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:03,400 Speaker 1: one of the flyers we get at the shop. Carlson 360 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:06,400 Speaker 1: has come out with a bracket bolt assortment. You're doing 361 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:08,880 Speaker 1: breaks on a vehicle, maybe you're in the Rust Belt, 362 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:10,480 Speaker 1: or maybe you're in a part of the country where 363 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:13,200 Speaker 1: thinks got really corroded for one reason or another. Well, 364 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:15,639 Speaker 1: they've now got kids out. They've got to one for truck, 365 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 1: one for car that will allow you to replace the 366 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 1: bracket bolts. And understand you go out and get a 367 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:24,440 Speaker 1: replacement caliper from your local auto parts store, whoever that 368 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:26,880 Speaker 1: might be. They don't give you these bolts. They'll give 369 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:29,240 Speaker 1: you the bolts that hold the caliper to the bracket, 370 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:33,199 Speaker 1: but not the bracket to the vehicle. Carlson solved that problem. 371 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:35,600 Speaker 1: They came out with some very nice looking kids that 372 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:38,879 Speaker 1: provide bolts with all the proper UH lock tight on 373 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 1: them and assembly material, so you can purchase those and 374 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 1: pick those up at your local load of parts store. 375 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 1: To Carson Quality break Parts, Carlson with another first for 376 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 1: the industry. Let's get over to UH Let's go to 377 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:52,240 Speaker 1: Tim in Illinois. Eleven Avenger with a check engine light 378 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:54,000 Speaker 1: on Tim Welcome to the car doctor, Sir, how can 379 00:19:54,000 --> 00:20:00,320 Speaker 1: I help iron? My son has a eleven Dodge event true, 380 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:03,200 Speaker 1: it has about a hundred and ten thousand miles on it, 381 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:09,040 Speaker 1: and he's had the check engine light come on and 382 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:12,439 Speaker 1: sometimes it's a P zero four or five five code. 383 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:17,920 Speaker 1: Sometimes it's a P zero four or five six code. Um, 384 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 1: I didn't follow your advice and do diagnosis first because 385 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 1: I don't have a smoke machine. So I started replacing parts. 386 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:29,840 Speaker 1: I replaced the purge valve and I replaced the gas cap, 387 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:33,560 Speaker 1: and neither one of those has made a difference. The 388 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:37,879 Speaker 1: only thing I know of next is the the charcoal canister. 389 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:41,159 Speaker 1: And I'm wondering if I should buy or build a 390 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 1: smoke machine or just replace that canister, or if you 391 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 1: have any thoughts. Okay, So, first of all, when you 392 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:52,640 Speaker 1: replaced these parts, and I'd like to see you put 393 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 1: the parts back in. Okay, do you still have the 394 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:57,320 Speaker 1: old stuff that you took out? Yes, sir, all right, 395 00:20:57,359 --> 00:21:00,240 Speaker 1: put them back in. Let's baseline the car. Now, maybe 396 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 1: we'll leave the cap off. You know, when you look 397 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:04,280 Speaker 1: at the cap, when you look at the fuel neck, 398 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 1: is the fuel neck, you know, is the area of 399 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:11,040 Speaker 1: contact for the gas cap. Is it nice and shiny silver? 400 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:13,159 Speaker 1: Does it have any rust and crud on it? Does 401 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 1: it look like the seals making good clean contact? It's 402 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 1: nice and plain, always important, and if you have any doubts, 403 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:22,920 Speaker 1: you know, sometimes a little bit of a Scotch pad 404 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:26,160 Speaker 1: or um, you know, some kind of light emery just 405 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 1: the yeah, just to make sure, um, you know, it 406 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:33,680 Speaker 1: doesn't hurt. Once in a while, depending upon where you're 407 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:35,399 Speaker 1: living in what part of the country, If that gas 408 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 1: gets dried out and you want to try it, just 409 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:39,960 Speaker 1: put a little what I call yellow grease some guys 410 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:43,440 Speaker 1: refer to as lithium grease. Um, a little yellow grease 411 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:45,360 Speaker 1: or yeah, I guess even wheel bearing grease. I tend 412 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 1: to use the yellow. It's it's less harmful to the 413 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:50,920 Speaker 1: rubber my understanding. And just see if that creates a seal. 414 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:53,199 Speaker 1: I don't think that's gonna be your issue. But just 415 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:56,679 Speaker 1: a little gas cap, you know, quick refresher maintenance. Some 416 00:21:56,800 --> 00:22:00,720 Speaker 1: ideas there's another piece in this system, all right, that 417 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:03,160 Speaker 1: even having a smoke machine won't hurt. What a smoke 418 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:07,000 Speaker 1: machine will tell you in this application is what's good, 419 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 1: all right? What I always what I always say to you, right, 420 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:11,399 Speaker 1: tell me what's good. I'll tell you what's bad. And 421 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:13,879 Speaker 1: sometimes you should look for what's you know good, because 422 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:16,200 Speaker 1: in this situation you need to look for what's good. 423 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 1: There's a piece on there called an E S I 424 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:23,560 Speaker 1: M module. It's actually attached to the charcoal canister. It's 425 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:28,120 Speaker 1: that little rectangular box that's probably three inches by one 426 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:31,439 Speaker 1: inch by one inch big, all right, and that is 427 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:35,600 Speaker 1: the control monitor for when and how the EVAPP monitors 428 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:41,720 Speaker 1: assembly runs. All right. That system works on very low 429 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:46,199 Speaker 1: system vacuum. It's actually measured in inches of water. You 430 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:49,480 Speaker 1: really need a pmhenomena. So making a smoke machine, it's admirable, 431 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:52,159 Speaker 1: but it wouldn't get you anywhere, all right. I'd be 432 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 1: willing to bet that if you call your local Chrysler 433 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 1: dealer and tell them you want an E S I 434 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:01,720 Speaker 1: M module on the little piece that screws onto the 435 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 1: top of the charcoaled canister, I bet it's under fIF 436 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 1: I bet it's under fifty bucks. I bet it's like 437 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:12,200 Speaker 1: it's so cheap it doesn't pay the diagnose. The car 438 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:15,199 Speaker 1: gets to be x number of years old, x amount 439 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 1: of mileage. Here's here's here's the exception where I'll break 440 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:20,879 Speaker 1: the rule the amount of time it would take to 441 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:24,280 Speaker 1: prove that part good or bad. Once you go through 442 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 1: the basics, you know, here's the case where I'll smoke 443 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 1: the car. I will look for visible cracks in um 444 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:33,920 Speaker 1: eve app lines. If I don't have a smoke machine, 445 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 1: I've solved some of these problems, you know, just by 446 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 1: being observant. Look at the purge valve where you the 447 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 1: thing you just changed. Those plastic lines where they come 448 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 1: into the rubber nipple before it gets to the purge, 449 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 1: they'll crack right on the seam underneath. You'll never see it. 450 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:51,480 Speaker 1: Look around carefully, all right. If you go through all 451 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:54,960 Speaker 1: that and you've verified the system has integrity, put any 452 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 1: s I m on it. Call it a diagnostic maneuver. 453 00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:00,240 Speaker 1: If you buy a Chrysler part oly, it kind of 454 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 1: cuts down in the potential for it being a problem 455 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:03,919 Speaker 1: that you have to worry about the quality of the 456 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:07,280 Speaker 1: replacement part. I'm not saying, oh, we parts are infallible, 457 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:09,119 Speaker 1: but it does cut down the odds trying to shoot 458 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 1: from the hip without a smoke machine and their diagnostic stuff. 459 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:17,199 Speaker 1: Clear the cod s I am off When I was 460 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 1: under the car and there's like a little ball or 461 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:25,480 Speaker 1: something in it. Yeah, that's not the part that goes bad. 462 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:27,880 Speaker 1: What goes bad and those is if you actually took 463 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:31,200 Speaker 1: it apart. There's a rubber flap, kind of like think 464 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:32,960 Speaker 1: about your toilet. You ever take the little of the 465 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:36,720 Speaker 1: toilet in your house, okay, and you've got you know, 466 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:38,920 Speaker 1: you flush the toilet, the water runs out, the little 467 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 1: rubber flap drops down and seal and seals the tanks 468 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 1: so that the water level starts to rise. There's a 469 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:48,639 Speaker 1: rubber flap in those E s I M modules. The 470 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:52,600 Speaker 1: rubber drives out. I don't know anybody that's actually taking 471 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:55,359 Speaker 1: one apart, though, Tim, I gotta tell you for the 472 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:56,960 Speaker 1: for the price of the part, unless you want to 473 00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:58,919 Speaker 1: really get into the nitty gritty of how it works. 474 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:01,480 Speaker 1: Most guys put one on and call it a day, 475 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:05,399 Speaker 1: all right, just a good before you go through the 476 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:08,119 Speaker 1: pain of building a smoke machine. And you know you 477 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:10,639 Speaker 1: might have to that might be the next step. But 478 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:12,200 Speaker 1: my job is to try and get you to the 479 00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 1: middle of the problem. And if you put us, if 480 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 1: you put an E s I AM on there from 481 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:18,159 Speaker 1: Christer and you make sure that orange it's an orange 482 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:22,400 Speaker 1: O ring underneath it, right, that's sitting in the canister. Yeah, 483 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:24,440 Speaker 1: just make sure loose that up a little bit. Put 484 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:26,720 Speaker 1: a little bit of uh um, you know, a little 485 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 1: bit of yellow grease, just just just to touch. Just 486 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:30,439 Speaker 1: put a little bit on your index finger and just 487 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 1: running around it so it just kind of rolls onto 488 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:35,960 Speaker 1: the onto the canister, onto the O ring, onto the 489 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:38,879 Speaker 1: E s I M. So that nothing binds up. And 490 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 1: you know, chances are you gonna find this fixed when 491 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:44,719 Speaker 1: you buy the em Just ask them for that oh 492 00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:47,480 Speaker 1: ring seal. Sometimes it comes with it, and sometimes it 493 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 1: does not. I always try to replace it. All right, 494 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:55,080 Speaker 1: let's let's start there. You're very welcome. You're very welcome, sir, 495 00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:02,760 Speaker 1: to for a nickel real quick. This car is about 496 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:06,640 Speaker 1: due to have its coolant refreshed. I've looked at cooling 497 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:10,960 Speaker 1: at different places. I see five year, I see ten year, 498 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:15,720 Speaker 1: I even see lifetime coolant. Um, do you have any 499 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:20,480 Speaker 1: recommendations on what kind of coolant people should use? Well, 500 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:22,719 Speaker 1: in this case, I think this is gonna be a 501 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:26,680 Speaker 1: five year, a hundred thousand mile coolant from Chrysler if 502 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:28,720 Speaker 1: I remember right. I don't think this is the newer 503 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:31,720 Speaker 1: purple stuff. I think it's the old school stuff. I 504 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 1: think when you're at Chrysler, if you can buy Chrysler 505 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:37,160 Speaker 1: specific for it, I don't think that's a bad move. 506 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:41,200 Speaker 1: I'm not opposed to universal anti freezes if I can't 507 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:45,840 Speaker 1: get exact from manufacturer. I just find in some cases, 508 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:49,480 Speaker 1: and particularly in the case of anti freeze, that using 509 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 1: a manufacturer's coolant. Um, if I have the option, I 510 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:57,080 Speaker 1: would take that, all right, and I wouldn't mix, all right. 511 00:26:57,240 --> 00:27:00,439 Speaker 1: I get a little fussy on fluids. I just you know, 512 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 1: if you ever, if you ever came to the shop, 513 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:04,560 Speaker 1: we'll open up the white cabinets and there's you know, 514 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:07,720 Speaker 1: nine different types of cooling, twelve different types of trans fluid. 515 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 1: You know, four different brands of motor royl. I mean, 516 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:13,919 Speaker 1: it just goes on and on and on. Um. I 517 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:17,280 Speaker 1: can't tell you. I probably couldn't keep track over the years, 518 00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:19,320 Speaker 1: how many times in my forty three years of doing 519 00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:22,600 Speaker 1: this fixing cars where you know, we went to a 520 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:27,399 Speaker 1: manufacturer's fluid or at least a good quality equivalent. And 521 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:29,400 Speaker 1: and I say that it has to be a good 522 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:34,120 Speaker 1: quality equivalent. That I've solved problems more than I care 523 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:36,600 Speaker 1: to remember. So that's what I would do while you're 524 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:38,720 Speaker 1: at Chrysler getting the east Um, pick up a couple 525 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:40,920 Speaker 1: of gallons of Chrysler cooling for the vehicle as well. 526 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 1: Good luck to you, Tim. Let me know if you 527 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:44,120 Speaker 1: need more, I'll be here for you. I'm running any 528 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:46,080 Speaker 1: in the car doctor. I'm coming back right after this. 529 00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:56,919 Speaker 1: Don't go away. Welcome back the car doctor. And let 530 00:27:56,920 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 1: me just clarify that comment too about cooling real fist um. 531 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,640 Speaker 1: You know part of the reason why I like fluids 532 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:06,640 Speaker 1: direct from the manufacturers because sometimes the manufacturer will either 533 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:10,280 Speaker 1: change a requirement for coolant or for a fluid protection 534 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:15,480 Speaker 1: or composition, or they will subsequently they'll they'll combine a 535 00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:17,640 Speaker 1: fluid and you know it works to this and this, 536 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:22,960 Speaker 1: it's it's, it evolves, it changes. Sometimes the aftermarket manufacturer 537 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:26,919 Speaker 1: might be behind um. Fluids are a very near to 538 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,480 Speaker 1: my heart kind of subject that you've gotta be a 539 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:31,760 Speaker 1: little fussy and you have to be sure what you're 540 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:34,480 Speaker 1: using is okay. What I take a press Stone coolant 541 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:37,359 Speaker 1: over a Chrysler if that's all I had available to me, 542 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:39,520 Speaker 1: Sure press Stone is fine. But if I had the 543 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:41,560 Speaker 1: choice of Chrysler, and I know that it's exact for 544 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:44,360 Speaker 1: the vehicle. I'd cover my bets at this point, and 545 00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:46,760 Speaker 1: I stay with the safe side until I know for sure. 546 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:49,600 Speaker 1: And um, obviously price doesn't really come into it because 547 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 1: I'm trying to protect the vehicle. Let's get to the phone, 548 00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:53,560 Speaker 1: Let's get back to Let's go over to Dwayne in 549 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 1: North Carolina and a Toyota Tacoma and some head guests 550 00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:58,760 Speaker 1: get issues. Dwayne, welcome to the car. Doctor, sir, how 551 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:04,440 Speaker 1: can I help nice stalk to you? Uh, I've got 552 00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:12,720 Speaker 1: tacoma that the engine was totally rebuilt a thousand and 553 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:16,720 Speaker 1: Uh that was as a result of a blown head gasket. 554 00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:22,320 Speaker 1: And I'm at two hundred and fifteen thousand now and 555 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:26,960 Speaker 1: the head gasket has blown again. And the mechanic that 556 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 1: as her parents, has a lot of experience with with 557 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:38,080 Speaker 1: Toyotas and small cars, and we replaced everything, um with 558 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:45,160 Speaker 1: original Toyota parts, the water pump, the radiator, replaced hoses, 559 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 1: and he's got it running. The head the head checked 560 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:52,240 Speaker 1: and all that to make sure nothing was worth or cracked. 561 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:56,880 Speaker 1: And we're at a point now of where everything is 562 00:29:56,920 --> 00:30:02,720 Speaker 1: back together and running. But the engine, UH, water temperature 563 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:08,000 Speaker 1: will not get above eighty degrees and you can take 564 00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:11,200 Speaker 1: the truck out and run it for uh say ten 565 00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:14,480 Speaker 1: miles and bring it in and you can lay your 566 00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:17,560 Speaker 1: hand on the bottom radiator host and it's just as 567 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:21,400 Speaker 1: cold as it was when you left. And we're afraid 568 00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:27,320 Speaker 1: that that he he has backflushed the the engine. Uh. 569 00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:30,840 Speaker 1: He has checked all the everything to make sure that 570 00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:34,640 Speaker 1: there's no clogs in it, and uh he cannot find 571 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:37,520 Speaker 1: anything wrong with it. But we just can't seem to 572 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:41,040 Speaker 1: get the temperature right on it. For the engine is 573 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:45,520 Speaker 1: freight that will blow another head gasket. He's kind of 574 00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:49,520 Speaker 1: at a standstill on letting the truck go. Okay, so 575 00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:51,520 Speaker 1: let me ask you a couple of questions. Dwayne, you 576 00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:56,920 Speaker 1: the original owner on the truck. Uh, No, I bought 577 00:30:56,960 --> 00:31:01,240 Speaker 1: it at around fifteen thousand miles. So but you but 578 00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:03,400 Speaker 1: you know, you know the majority of the history of 579 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:05,720 Speaker 1: this vehicle, right, You've had it for a good long time. 580 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:08,880 Speaker 1: It's my point. Yeah, okay. So, so at nine was 581 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:12,200 Speaker 1: the first time the engine was taken apart, so the 582 00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 1: head gas gets failed at one. When you say the 583 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:18,920 Speaker 1: engine was completely rebuilt, the engine was pulled out of 584 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:23,719 Speaker 1: the truck sent out to a machine shop. Yes, sir, okay. 585 00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:26,720 Speaker 1: And they squared the block, they decked it, they made 586 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:30,080 Speaker 1: sure the block is okay, They inspected the heads, they 587 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:35,280 Speaker 1: did all the necessary machine work to the heads. Yes, sir, okay. 588 00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:38,360 Speaker 1: And then when they assembled it, the machine shop assembled 589 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:43,560 Speaker 1: it or the mechanic assembled it. The machine shop did okay, 590 00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:49,840 Speaker 1: and it failed fifteen it failed miles later. Okay, tell 591 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:51,800 Speaker 1: you what sit tight? Let me pull over and take 592 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:53,920 Speaker 1: this pause. The question I'm gonna ask you when I 593 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,920 Speaker 1: come back, is is there or was there a warranty 594 00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:59,240 Speaker 1: on this? Why didn't the machine shop take a look 595 00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:01,280 Speaker 1: at this? Answered that question when I come back, and 596 00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:02,880 Speaker 1: we'll talk a little bit more. I'm running any of 597 00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:12,240 Speaker 1: the car Doctor, don't go away, She's real Find my 598 00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:17,240 Speaker 1: phone night, She's real find my phone night. My fault 599 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,120 Speaker 1: Welcome back run named the car Doctor. Dwyne. You're still 600 00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:29,000 Speaker 1: there kidding, yes, sir, So easy Tom, Easy, Tom is 601 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:33,640 Speaker 1: getting excited. Um, you know why was there a warranty 602 00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:36,440 Speaker 1: from the machine shop that would that would require them 603 00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:37,959 Speaker 1: to look at the head gas at failure if it's 604 00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:43,560 Speaker 1: five miles or no. Well, the only warranty was a 605 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:46,680 Speaker 1: one year warranty, and it's been almost two and a 606 00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:51,400 Speaker 1: half years since since it was done, and essentially I 607 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:55,000 Speaker 1: guess warrant to be no and more. All right, So 608 00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:58,000 Speaker 1: listen and I would have did the mechanic call the 609 00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:00,719 Speaker 1: machine shop and you know, picked their brain a little bit. 610 00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:02,960 Speaker 1: I'm just curious trying to get a field for where 611 00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:08,440 Speaker 1: this repair came. I don't believe. So I can have 612 00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:10,680 Speaker 1: him do that, yeah, because I would want to know, 613 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:12,840 Speaker 1: all right, you know, just to kind of go around 614 00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:16,000 Speaker 1: about it a little bit. Um. When when you say 615 00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:18,520 Speaker 1: head gas get failure, I'm gonna ask the silly questions 616 00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:21,480 Speaker 1: I get to do that. Um, you know what makes 617 00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:23,520 Speaker 1: what makes you think it was a head gas get failure? 618 00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:28,520 Speaker 1: What did the vehicle do? Well? It Uh it started 619 00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:33,160 Speaker 1: aisling rough and then the temperature went up and uh 620 00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:39,640 Speaker 1: um you can see steam coming out of the tail 621 00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:45,000 Speaker 1: pipe or a white smoke and then uh it quit 622 00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:49,800 Speaker 1: running and went around and checked the radiator and the 623 00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:53,360 Speaker 1: radiator didn't have any fluid in It sounds like a 624 00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:57,640 Speaker 1: dumped it all in the cylinder. Well, it sounds like 625 00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:00,760 Speaker 1: it sounds like an internal engine failure. Hey, gasket or 626 00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:03,240 Speaker 1: there's a crack on the block or the head somewhere 627 00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:06,400 Speaker 1: all right. Um, you know it doesn't necessarily have to 628 00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:10,120 Speaker 1: be a head right when they so when they redid it, 629 00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:11,920 Speaker 1: did they pull the engine back out or did they 630 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:16,000 Speaker 1: just do it with the block in the vehicle? Uh? 631 00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:18,520 Speaker 1: They did it with the block in the vehicle. Okay. 632 00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:23,320 Speaker 1: The second time they did check for any cracks or 633 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:25,480 Speaker 1: anything like that. And the only thing that makes them 634 00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:27,000 Speaker 1: think they have a problem with it now is the 635 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:32,920 Speaker 1: fact that it doesn't get hot enough. Correct. He's a little, 636 00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:37,000 Speaker 1: he's a little. I can I can understand. I could 637 00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:39,680 Speaker 1: understand that because you've actually got a couple of things 638 00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:42,080 Speaker 1: going on here, and they don't make a lot of 639 00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:45,120 Speaker 1: sense to me. The first question I always have is 640 00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:46,399 Speaker 1: this is a this is a this is a three 641 00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:48,399 Speaker 1: or four V six right, just so we're talking about 642 00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:52,960 Speaker 1: the same thing. Well, no, this is a two point 643 00:34:52,880 --> 00:35:00,799 Speaker 1: seven later okay, So okay, okay, UM, just be sure 644 00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:04,879 Speaker 1: head gaskets are installed correctly. I believe even on the 645 00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:08,399 Speaker 1: small V floor there's a left and a right, all right, 646 00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:11,920 Speaker 1: And couldn't we have I would be also focused more 647 00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:15,359 Speaker 1: on coolant. Why can't we get the cool and hot enough? Um? 648 00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:17,960 Speaker 1: Do we have a thermostat brand new out of the box, defective, 649 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:20,000 Speaker 1: stuck open. Call me back when you know I'm running 650 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:22,640 Speaker 1: any car. Doctor Mechanics are on expensive their crisis. See 651 00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:24,080 Speaker 1: you