1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:04,000 Speaker 1: Countdown to Kickoff continues ahead of Week fourteen, the Jaguars 2 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:06,360 Speaker 1: and the Cleveland Browns coming up, and it's time for 3 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:09,400 Speaker 1: our weekly conversation with Pride of the Jaguars running back 4 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 1: Fred Taylor, and here we go big December games. Gotta 5 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 1: get off the deck after last week's Monday Night loss 6 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 1: that was deflating in so many ways, but everything is 7 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:20,959 Speaker 1: still out in front for this team. 8 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:23,160 Speaker 2: Fred, JP, you said it. You got to get off 9 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 2: the deck. 10 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:26,279 Speaker 3: Man, got to pick up with pieces and continue to 11 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 3: move forward. You know, it's no time to soak, no 12 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 3: time to have a pity party. You know, it's a 13 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 3: lot of football left a pretty good team. You know, 14 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 3: things didn't go the way they planned a week ago. 15 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 3: But I think this team, like I said in postgame, 16 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:42,160 Speaker 3: I think they're resilient. 17 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:42,839 Speaker 2: You know. 18 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 3: I think Doug has really built the culture there where 19 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 3: the guys understand it, and I really believe in spite 20 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 3: of everything that took place last week, you know, the 21 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 3: injury to Trevor, Christian Kirk being out for several weeks, 22 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 3: even the loss, I think they'll find a way to 23 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 3: bounce back and get this win. 24 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 1: Pret Taylor with us, well, the injury bug is the 25 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 1: number one concern obviously, Fred, and it starts with the quarterback, 26 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:12,679 Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence. As of Thursday, he was on the practice 27 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 1: field for a little bit doing some things. This could 28 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 1: go all the way down to game time again like 29 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 1: it did for Thursday Night Football and Trevor went out 30 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:23,480 Speaker 1: there with a left knee issue. You know, we'll see 31 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 1: if he's not ready. 32 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:25,119 Speaker 2: CJ. 33 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 1: Bethard has to be ready, and hey this you know 34 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 1: there's still five games, four after this week to make 35 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:35,320 Speaker 1: sure Lawrence is right. So do you roll the dice 36 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:35,959 Speaker 1: on this one? 37 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 3: Well, you know you have to. I think you do 38 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:41,120 Speaker 3: have to roll the dice and go. You do want 39 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 3: Trevor to be at his best. I think CJ. He's 40 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 3: been in the system long enough. He's shown signs that 41 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 3: he is capable of getting a job done. You know, 42 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 3: last week it was a challenge for him. You have 43 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 3: to come in in the fourth quarter, you know, a 44 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 3: few minutes left in the game where it was around 45 00:01:58,360 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 3: seven or eight minute mark. 46 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 2: I'm not one hundred percent sure. 47 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 3: I can't really recall, but it was very abrupt and 48 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 3: you know he came in under those circumstances. 49 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:10,800 Speaker 2: But you got to always be ready. 50 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 3: And I think this week, as Doug mentioned, being able 51 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 3: to build a system, you know, specifically cater to CJ. 52 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:22,799 Speaker 3: Simplify things, ETN. Let's try and take advantage of the run. 53 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 3: Cleveland hadn't been great versus the run. They have been 54 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 3: very stout at home, we get that, but versus the run, 55 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 3: they haven't been amazing. So I think you want to 56 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 3: try and commit to that run. Sprinkling some plays that 57 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 3: are CJ's favorites during meetings this week. 58 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 2: What do you like? What do you love? Let's narrow 59 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 2: those plays. 60 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:47,839 Speaker 3: Down and put you in better, more efficient in situations 61 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 3: where you can be effected and minimize mistakes for him. 62 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:56,799 Speaker 3: So I think strategically, if they could map out that 63 00:02:57,200 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 3: or if they mapped out that sort of plan construction 64 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:04,359 Speaker 3: throughout the week, they should find a way to be successful. 65 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 1: Okay, Fred, we hear about high ankle sprains. Did you 66 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 1: ever have one of those? And how painful is this? 67 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 2: JP? 68 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:16,920 Speaker 3: I can tell you it's the third most painful injury 69 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 3: I've had. And I say that because I had a 70 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:22,119 Speaker 3: groin I tore off the bone. That was the worst 71 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 3: paint I ever felt in my life. Typically, that's a 72 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 3: surgical procedure they used when you have pronic growing. So 73 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:33,359 Speaker 3: that was tough turf toe. I had double turf toe 74 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 3: at the same time when I was in New England. 75 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 3: And lastly, the third toughest one again it's the high 76 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 3: ankle sprain. It's when the ankle rows inverted, I believe 77 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 3: they call it. That mine led to a surgery. I 78 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 3: had to get the tightrope procedure, which we heard earlier 79 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:55,840 Speaker 3: in the week, Doug state that Trevor avoided having to 80 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 3: have that procedure done. That was done to me in 81 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 3: twenty ten, my last year in New England. And I 82 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 3: have two vertical plates on the outside of my tip 83 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 3: fib one of those bones I don't recall, and I 84 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 3: have like fishing rope that they loop and they sort 85 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 3: of pull those two bones together and it allows the 86 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:22,479 Speaker 3: starring of that ligament that stretches when you sprain the 87 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 3: high ankle. So it's very painful, hard to walk on, 88 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 3: harder and tougher to run on, and it takes time. 89 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 3: Unlike a normal ankle sprain, which is three four or 90 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 3: five days at max. Maybe high ankles can go anywhere 91 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 3: from three to four weeks. It varies on each person's 92 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 3: body composition. When you add in the sport the position 93 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 3: you play as a running back, happen to stop, cut, accelerate, 94 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 3: pick up, block, do things unexpectedly. 95 00:04:57,680 --> 00:04:58,919 Speaker 2: It's tough for my position. 96 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:03,160 Speaker 3: At a quarterback position, it's tough, but maybe not as 97 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 3: tough depending on your plant foot and how much protection 98 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:08,279 Speaker 3: you get from the guys up front. 99 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:12,360 Speaker 2: All in all, is very painful. To answer your question, JP. 100 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:15,360 Speaker 1: Fred Taylor with US, I liked the photo of somebody 101 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:17,839 Speaker 1: put on X this week of an X ray of 102 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 1: a leg with a dog in it, and yeah, that's 103 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 1: Trevor's leg. He's got that dog in him. 104 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 2: I guess Trevor certainly has that dog in him. I 105 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 2: don't know if you saw it. 106 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 3: We talked about in the podcast that we released on Friday, 107 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:37,160 Speaker 3: and man, he does have that dog in him. 108 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:40,839 Speaker 2: We are all fans of Trevor Larrence. Yeah. 109 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 3: So much heart, so much fight, so much passion and 110 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 3: competitiveness in him. 111 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:50,039 Speaker 2: I love to go to battle with him any day. 112 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 1: Bred what happened to the run defense last week? And 113 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 1: it's not who they are because they've been really good 114 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:01,680 Speaker 1: against the run all year. For some reason, Cincinnati just 115 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:05,159 Speaker 1: ran all over them. They're missing tackles, missing gaps. I 116 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:07,239 Speaker 1: mean is that Can they fix that in a week's 117 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 1: time against Cleveland? 118 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, you can fix it, And they fixed it after 119 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:13,280 Speaker 3: we ran for three hundred plus on them when they 120 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 3: went on run off three four wins to go win 121 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:16,679 Speaker 3: the Super Bowl. 122 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 2: Certainly you can fix it. It's about having a sense 123 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 2: of urgency. 124 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:23,039 Speaker 3: The guys have to get in there and watch them, 125 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 3: watch themselves, coach themselves, be honest with themselves and say, well, 126 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 3: that was me out of position, or as you alluded 127 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:33,839 Speaker 3: to a second ago, that was me I missed my gap. 128 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 3: You know, run game and stopping and run is about 129 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 3: eight man's facing. Each player has a gap A through C. 130 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 3: You have a gap, you have to be in your gap. 131 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 3: You have to do your job, do your assignment. Sometimes 132 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 3: guys get excited, especially on defense, and they try to 133 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:57,479 Speaker 3: do someone else's job. No, be focused, worry about yourself, 134 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:01,280 Speaker 3: communicate that's going to always be the I think that 135 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 3: last week was a situation where they saw a quarterback 136 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:08,720 Speaker 3: on the other side who didn't have a lot of films, 137 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 3: and I believe a lot of those guys were in 138 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 3: past rush mode getting out of their line, out of 139 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 3: their lane, out of their gap, trying to get the quarterback, 140 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 3: and it exposed them and open up the run. And 141 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 3: on the back end, you said, we didn't do a 142 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 3: great job of tackling. So those combinations of things got 143 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 3: to exploit it as a team should have done. So 144 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 3: they can get back to it. Though, I think if 145 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 3: they just go back, they've watched the film, realized their mistakes, 146 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 3: also the effort in tackling. If they can come back 147 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 3: to what they're used to, they should do well. 148 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 1: Pret Taylor wellis proud of the Jaguars running back Cleveland 149 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 1: this week. The Browns of course, seven and five. They're 150 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 1: right there in the wildcard chase right now. And then 151 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 1: next week, of course the Ravens. There are you been 152 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 1: playing the best football overall in the AFC. Then you 153 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 1: got a couple NFC games in the South with the 154 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 1: Buccaneers and the Panthers, and then you finish up with 155 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 1: the Titans up in Nashville. So that's the slight ahead. 156 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 1: The Jaguars do have the tiebreaker on the teams right 157 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 1: behind them in the division race. That's far from over. 158 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 1: So these games the next two weeks are crucial. Because 159 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 1: all of a sudden you get tied with the Texans 160 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 1: or the Colts. Yes, you might have the tiebreaker, but 161 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, they have life. And the Jaguars 162 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 1: had that life last season. They know what it's like. 163 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, everybody talks about, you know, seating positioning 164 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 3: for the playoffs. I can tell you this, JP, and 165 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 3: you know it too. These remaining five weeks. Every week 166 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 3: is a playoff game, you know, regardless of a Monday 167 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:43,559 Speaker 3: night atmosphere. Yeah, you have an opportunity with a night 168 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:47,560 Speaker 3: game and an amazing atmosphere on a Sunday night versus 169 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 3: the Ravens. Your mindset as a player should be this 170 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 3: is the atmosphere every week, regardless of the time of 171 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:58,959 Speaker 3: the day, the opponent. My mindset is, I'm going to 172 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 3: go out there, I'm going to do my job. Are 173 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 3: going to play with a sense of urgency. I'm going 174 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 3: to display extreme effort, and I will not be the 175 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 3: weak link or that guy responsible for us losing. 176 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:13,079 Speaker 2: I Am not going to be that guy. So everybody 177 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:13,680 Speaker 2: should down. 178 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 3: And I realized the opponent, I had realized the magnitude 179 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:19,840 Speaker 3: of the moment, and what's that stake? 180 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 2: Last week? What was that stake. They felled. They completely failed. 181 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:26,720 Speaker 3: That was a fail and they have to somehow bounce 182 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 3: back and kind of make some noise, like my little 183 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 3: bird in the background back there. 184 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 2: But they got to go in there and make some 185 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 2: noise regardless. 186 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:38,200 Speaker 1: You gotta make the noise to be heard. Fred, it's 187 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:40,439 Speaker 1: what it's about. And the jaguars are right there on 188 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 1: the doorstep with you. 189 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 2: Gotta be hungry when you make that noise. Be hungry. 190 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 2: I think my bird is hungry. 191 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 3: You gotta feed those birds. Now, they got to go 192 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 3: out there and just handle business. I've said it the 193 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:57,560 Speaker 3: entire year. You know, there's been a you know, the thing, 194 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 3: the mantra, one of the mantras. Know, it was always 195 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 3: about the jaguars, you know, And really that's what it 196 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:04,440 Speaker 3: comes down to. 197 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 2: It's not just cliche. 198 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 3: The guy's got to really understand that it's about them, 199 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 3: you know, managing distractions, not paying attention to the outside noise, 200 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 3: allowing people to tell you how good you are. We 201 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 3: saw a little bit of that earlier in the year 202 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:22,680 Speaker 3: and thought they shook that out of their systems, and 203 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 3: I believe they have again. 204 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 2: I think they're. 205 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:27,840 Speaker 3: Resilient and I think They're going to go out there 206 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:31,680 Speaker 3: and win this game despite what's going on around them 207 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:36,079 Speaker 3: with players. Doug said, is not about one, not about 208 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 3: any one. Guy is the greatest team sport and they 209 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 3: got to act according to So saying all that to say, 210 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 3: I got Jaggs, I got the Jaguars. 211 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:50,719 Speaker 1: You heard it here first, Fred Taylor with the Jaguars 212 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 1: in Cleveland. Let's get it done, Fred, and we'll talk 213 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:54,440 Speaker 1: to you in the post game. 214 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:57,079 Speaker 3: And that ain't a Homer call. That's how I feel. 215 00:10:57,679 --> 00:10:58,960 Speaker 3: I'll be ready in the post game. 216 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 1: I'm sure you will, and we'll talk to you then. 217 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 2: How to see you, JP,