Speaker 1: I'm a little Duval and this is Conversations with the podcast.
Speaker 1: Today's guest is the King of Crumple's welcome my man,
Speaker 1: Duke Deuce. So they should cut your cousin, Little Duval
Speaker 1: checking in live and direct. You know this podcast, this
Speaker 1: is my new podcast. You know. I sit on here
Speaker 1: and have a couple of people in that that I admired,
Speaker 1: that I that I respect or that I think it's talented,
Speaker 1: and the motherfucker on my show and we vibe out.
Speaker 1: They get to ask me questions about light, about everything.
Speaker 1: And one of the people that I like, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, one people I've been watching for a
Speaker 1: while and I respect them and I see them vibing
Speaker 1: and I think they're one of the baddest, coolest gangsters,
Speaker 1: goddamn dancers in the goddamn gay You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I got my man right here, Deuce on this motherfucker.
Speaker 1: What's handing niggas?
Speaker 2: What's good?
Speaker 1: All right? Man? You know just over here vibe and
Speaker 1: dcent man. So like I say, man, I appreciate you
Speaker 1: coming on the show, coming vibe with you. Like like
Speaker 1: I'm let you know what my show about. You know,
Speaker 1: all we do is I let people come on here
Speaker 1: because a lot of people don't have nobody that they
Speaker 1: can talk to. You know what I'm saying. They don't
Speaker 1: have nobody they could talk to in the game or
Speaker 1: even in their personal life. So they come over here
Speaker 1: and just talk to me a rappidtad, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, So you can ask me questions. You could
Speaker 1: treat it like a goddamn confessional. And I'm gonna tell
Speaker 1: you a boy, my show, you don't have to if
Speaker 1: it's something that you might say it and you're like,
Speaker 1: you know what, I don't use that shit. We ain't
Speaker 1: got to use that shit. I don't give a fuck.
Speaker 1: I'm not one of them flickbake niggas. I don't give
Speaker 1: a fuck. Yeah, So you could just talk open like
Speaker 1: a motherfuck and see what you want to say, and
Speaker 1: if you want to use wing. If you don't want
Speaker 1: to use it, fuck that shit, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So that's what it is. But first introduce yourself with level.
Speaker 1: Know where you're from and what you do, and how
Speaker 1: long you've been gaming all that shit, and how you start.
Speaker 2: Yeah, mister kron Star Loop, the dudes you know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying. I've been in the game for about five
Speaker 2: six year maybe six, maybe seven. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 2: Time nigg time fly when you wane you working in yeah, traveling.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. And I am the king
Speaker 2: of Kromp. You feel brought it back to their face.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, going crazy and type ship.
Speaker 1: Let's give him some history of Crump because a lot
Speaker 1: of people think Krunk came from Atlanta. But honestly, I
Speaker 1: know this because I'm an old nigga, like Krunk really
Speaker 1: came from Memphis getting an Atlanta ticket and made it
Speaker 1: popular and then you took it back from their ass
Speaker 1: and got their ticket to a whole another level. I
Speaker 1: just want to get them a little history up of
Speaker 1: how it came to be. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Facts, man, You know what I'm saying. Krop came from
Speaker 2: Memphis main Uh, you know what I'm saying it I
Speaker 2: want to say, I really want to say it started
Speaker 2: arriving through Mephis like in the eighties, because you know,
Speaker 2: or how.
Speaker 1: Did Krunk the word krunk or how did they give
Speaker 1: me some history lessons on this ship? Mike.
Speaker 2: Okay, So kromp is a very old world word. They
Speaker 2: used that as slavery. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Let me.
Speaker 2: As far on gay gay hard, let me put my
Speaker 2: shades on look though, So as far as the music though,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. I know for a fact
Speaker 2: that Memphis started saying it around nineteen ninety two, referring
Speaker 2: to music in your your actions. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 2: because it's not just music, it's actions as well. You
Speaker 2: feel me. But I know we was called I know
Speaker 2: he was calling it buck before kromp. You know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying, which, yeah, get you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Mc hammer tried to run off with that.
Speaker 1: Damn I didn't put the two and two together.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Myphos was mad that hell yeah, that was mad
Speaker 2: about this ship.
Speaker 1: I ain't even know that he.
Speaker 2: Went on to see where he left mephis and my
Speaker 2: next thing. You know, he gotta get buck, get buck,
Speaker 2: get buck get He's fitted. You know what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: So put two and two together and the gangster walking,
Speaker 2: the moves and ship, y'all see me eating It's really
Speaker 2: part of the movement. You know what I'm saying, walking
Speaker 2: for show and they called it gangster?
Speaker 1: What got you into the gangster walking? Like, cause that's
Speaker 1: why I know you from that and I remember the
Speaker 1: song you did with Little Johnny and that's when I
Speaker 1: became a fan of the ship. But like, what got
Speaker 1: you into like the coature the dance of the crunk Ship?
Speaker 1: I mean, uh, what y'all call it? What is it
Speaker 1: called now? Because they've been changing the name of.
Speaker 2: So you got gangster walking? You got joking, Memphis jerking, jerking? Yeah,
Speaker 2: you got we gotta joke to in Florida, Like I
Speaker 2: joke like this, Yeah, y'all, y'all kind of gets y'all
Speaker 2: groovy with it, you feel me?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, we vibe with our ship.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, but uh yeah, you got joking, bucking, shopping, ticking.
Speaker 2: It's it's a you know, it's a bunch of names
Speaker 2: for type ship.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So what got what? What? How did you get
Speaker 1: get into that part of instead of just wrap this?
Speaker 1: Was you a rapper first? Or was you a dancer first?
Speaker 2: I was dancing first, But damn, it's kind of it's
Speaker 2: kind of hard to say, but yeah, you could technically
Speaker 2: say I was dancing and ship.
Speaker 1: First.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. When I first seen this
Speaker 2: ship when I was young, I ain't no telling how.
Speaker 2: I probably about seven eight, and I was outside and
Speaker 2: the nigga was coming down the street, the hood nigga
Speaker 2: though you feel me coming down the street. He had
Speaker 2: the black shade, they got all black with the CD
Speaker 2: player with the headphones and his you're man. He was
Speaker 2: walking down the street like he were walking on ice
Speaker 2: and ship. I was like, God, damn fool. He was
Speaker 2: killing that shit. And I was like, man, you gotta
Speaker 2: teach me how to do that ship. So it's then
Speaker 2: I've been doing it.
Speaker 1: You feel me? Yeah, So you went from dancing and
Speaker 1: then got into the music part of it. Yeah.
Speaker 2: See, I wasn't gonna never do the gangster walking. I
Speaker 2: wasn't gonna never merge you with the music. I was
Speaker 2: just gonna stick to just strictly just rapping and.
Speaker 1: Ship like that.
Speaker 2: And my mama used to tell me, she like, you
Speaker 2: need to hit your moves and shp when you rap.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, hell now, mom, I'm not knowing that ship.
Speaker 2: You feel me? Man? Next thing, no, I'm doing this ship.
Speaker 1: So see why you got to listen to your mama. Man.
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, you know what I'm saying. Mama always came
Speaker 2: up with some good ideas. Sometimes she can fall off,
Speaker 2: but she she beat there, she'd be right there with me.
Speaker 1: Hey is Then it got THEMN because like I'm like
Speaker 1: I said, I'm a fan of this ship. I got
Speaker 1: pay attention to if they hit the historic battles, dance battles,
Speaker 1: I should look up from from you back in the
Speaker 1: day that you went against somebody that that I should
Speaker 1: know about.
Speaker 2: Man, it's a lot, it's a lot of them. But
Speaker 2: you need to look up b H G Pat. That's
Speaker 2: b H b H G Space Pat versus Little Spins.
Speaker 1: M Yeah, yeah, yeah, And that's a classical.
Speaker 2: That's a classic giant Right there, I snapped, I bumped
Speaker 2: out there, two chins, crack, motherfucker. I went crazy crazy?
Speaker 1: So how long? So how long did it take for
Speaker 1: you once you got into music? How long did it
Speaker 1: take for you to get your buzz to where? All right,
Speaker 1: I got it. I got a foundation where you was
Speaker 1: able to get that that song with with Little John?
Speaker 1: Oh what you already popping by then?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was already doing my thighs. He Little John
Speaker 2: and Project pat Juice to Jay. They hopped on the
Speaker 2: remix because it was yeah, yeah, already going crazy.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Uh huh yeah, So what
Speaker 1: what how long did that take from when it started
Speaker 1: going crazy? From when you started when you started dancing,
Speaker 1: like when you said, when your mama told you, man,
Speaker 1: put the music with the dancing in and then how
Speaker 1: long did that take? With this?
Speaker 2: Well? Where that happened? She was telling me that before
Speaker 2: I even really fully established my her you know, I
Speaker 2: was still coming up with my name and everything around it.
Speaker 2: I was a beginner. I only had like probably a
Speaker 2: few records that I recorded around there time, you know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But I was where did they ain't come from?
Speaker 2: I was telling how I'm finna take this hit serious?
Speaker 1: Where did ain't come from? So?
Speaker 2: Man, me and my mom and my sister was in
Speaker 2: the kitchen, and man, I think she she helped me
Speaker 2: come up with Duke duce or I don't know how
Speaker 2: it kind of happened. I don't know if I added
Speaker 2: the duce or she did. I think she was saying
Speaker 2: Duke to the second Power and shit like that, like pops,
Speaker 2: My pops named Duke and he's a legendary nigga, you
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. But music and shit like that too,
Speaker 2: So I'm pretty much Duke the second, So Duke Duce.
Speaker 1: Okay, Hey, man, you know what I'm saying. I'm learning
Speaker 1: already in this year. Man, you're a family nigga. Man. Yeah, yeah, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a good thing though. Man, that's what keep your ground,
Speaker 1: and that's probably why I fuck with you know, it's
Speaker 1: probably the energy I felt from you know, you can
Speaker 1: see it in people. You can feel the energy and
Speaker 1: people and it comes out. Yeah, you think they help?
Speaker 1: Do you think they help you with moving around in
Speaker 1: the in this industry?
Speaker 2: Yeah? For show for show, it had it.
Speaker 1: How so it had.
Speaker 2: It, It had good and bad. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 2: I gotta what band.
Speaker 1: I can family have brank band in the industry.
Speaker 2: Just said over expecting this and that, you know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying, not fully understanding what's really going on. You
Speaker 2: feel me that right there could turn ship into ship.
Speaker 1: You feel me. I get what you're saying. They think
Speaker 1: it's more than what it is. Yeah, like the game play.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you feel me.
Speaker 1: This ain't the time.
Speaker 2: Where I could do this and woo woo woo, like
Speaker 2: I ain't got damn, I ain't God damn drake out.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I understand, I under stay exactly. But one thing I
Speaker 1: can't say for my family, especially for my mama, which
Speaker 1: is a blessing. My mama then ask me for the
Speaker 1: least out of anybody in my family, and so my
Speaker 1: mother always been in life. If you ask for more
Speaker 1: than my Mama, you ask for too much, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So with that, I don't really feel
Speaker 1: obligated to nobody, you know what I'm saying. And that's
Speaker 1: how I go with the industry. Ship with it with
Speaker 1: the industry people to my personal family people, and too
Speaker 1: they know they know how to how I'm coming because
Speaker 1: I always it's a nothing I do. I'm They know
Speaker 1: I'm cheap, you know what I'm saying. So by the
Speaker 1: knowing I'm cheating, if they come to me, I know
Speaker 1: they really need it, you know what I'm saying. But
Speaker 1: outside of that, they know that to come to me
Speaker 1: by ship, I.
Speaker 2: Ain't gonna try to get it to me.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, right, I have to say, but that fruck,
Speaker 3: but you gotta program into them early on while you're
Speaker 3: doing it, because once you get to that level, they
Speaker 3: already rented.
Speaker 1: You see what I'm saying, Once you get to the
Speaker 1: way you can do because you do want to do
Speaker 1: for me? Who don't want to do for They fan facts?
Speaker 1: But at the same time, you got to program and
Speaker 1: why they why while you still coming up because if
Speaker 1: you don't, they gonna be on your heads later on.
Speaker 1: You see what I'm.
Speaker 2: Saying, acts, facts, facts. But other than that, though, I
Speaker 2: feel like me and my family doing a lot better
Speaker 2: than that. You know what I'm saying. Yeah, you got kids,
Speaker 2: y'all got a little girl? Oh shit sell sl Yeah
Speaker 2: selm sel.
Speaker 1: I got a little girl too. Man.
Speaker 2: She acts like she acts like her mama, look like
Speaker 2: her mama. But bro, it's some ways in her And
Speaker 2: I be like, bro, you acting with you? It's like me, Bro,
Speaker 2: I'm like, damn.
Speaker 1: Is she is it a good side of you? Though? Man,
Speaker 1: she don't.
Speaker 2: She got a little bit of both. She like she
Speaker 2: she becoming fearless as hell sometime, Like you be like.
Speaker 1: Nigga, I get it.
Speaker 2: You feel me getting extra nonchalant like this me all
Speaker 2: day like I don't care.
Speaker 1: Man, My daughter. She ain't fearless, but she like nachalant
Speaker 1: like like they, she don't care about like she like me,
Speaker 1: I don't care about money like that, but I get money,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But she don't care about money,
Speaker 1: but she didn't get money, you know, Like, so I
Speaker 1: have to push it in her like to care about money.
Speaker 1: You know how some people like that they care too
Speaker 1: much about money, and you have to say, man, that
Speaker 1: money ain't gonna, ain't gonna, ain't gonna help you. For her,
Speaker 1: I have to instill it in her, like, have to
Speaker 1: push it in Look. So I see all that in
Speaker 1: the hook, but that's in me too, So I'm trying
Speaker 1: to program myself to like, how can I get her
Speaker 1: to care about it? But it's hard for me because
Speaker 1: I get it. So it's probably the same way with you,
Speaker 1: because it's like, man, she feelings and I'm feeling too,
Speaker 1: so I get it. But at the same time, I
Speaker 1: don't want to be like out here because this world
Speaker 1: ain't ain't.
Speaker 2: No for real, for real, this ship crazy.
Speaker 1: But yeah, man, so what you evolved you from from
Speaker 1: their crunk ship to you doing rolling loud stadiums and
Speaker 1: ship When I saw you swamp. That was that stage, nigga.
Speaker 1: Yeah that ship was odd though, man.
Speaker 2: Come on, cause you know what I'm saying. If it wasn't,
Speaker 2: I would have been so I would have sued the
Speaker 2: ship out of my asso.
Speaker 1: Yeah you're right, but ship, man, that ship was odd.
Speaker 1: But that's that's in it, you know. And that's another
Speaker 1: thing I wanted to say why I brought up through
Speaker 1: Rolling Loust ship because you got something that a lot
Speaker 1: of I think I might've been tweeted about it before.
Speaker 1: A lot of these new entertainers is missing they know
Speaker 1: how to you know, how to entertain and perform like I.
Speaker 1: That's what. That's what a lot of these even bigger
Speaker 1: names than you, they missing that. But that's what you got.
Speaker 1: But when you but you know, it's gonna work in
Speaker 1: your favorite because once you get to that point, you're
Speaker 1: gonna already be riddy. Oh god.
Speaker 2: And they know it too. I think the nigga scaed
Speaker 2: of me, they know it.
Speaker 1: It don't even matter if they scared of you. That's
Speaker 1: the thing. It don't even matter because those people that's
Speaker 1: like the comedian used to be scared of me to
Speaker 1: you too. But guess what I didn't give a fuck
Speaker 1: because I'm like this it. You get what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: like tunnel vision only po ass over.
Speaker 2: So that's what I got, tunnel vision, And I'm gonna
Speaker 2: tell you something else. The reason though, this is how
Speaker 2: I come up with the shit that I come up with.
Speaker 2: Like Yo, a lot of people say I'm genius. At
Speaker 2: the same time, what it really is is I don't
Speaker 2: give a fuck. You know what I'm saying. I'm not
Speaker 2: I'm not trying to push this street persona. Well, I'm
Speaker 2: too street to do this and do that. I'm not
Speaker 2: a street nigga. Fuck, I'm a hood nigga. You know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. And I like the fun so I'm
Speaker 2: aa the fuck I wanna do? You dig I ain't
Speaker 2: trying to look cool, you know what I'm saying. I
Speaker 2: feel I feel like me just not giving the fuck
Speaker 2: is cool enough.
Speaker 1: You feel it that that's all you gotta be. That's
Speaker 1: what cool is being you nigga. Yes, all is Yeah.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't go back what you said cause you say
Speaker 1: your daddy was in the in the music industry, right,
Speaker 1: yeah what what? What? What do I know him?
Speaker 2: I'm not sure his name Duke knity. I'm not sure
Speaker 2: if you ever heard of South par Boy. That was
Speaker 2: one of his biggest judts tracks that he did for
Speaker 2: Gangster Black.
Speaker 1: Okay, how did you have an impact.
Speaker 2: On man bro that ship? I followed every footstep when
Speaker 2: it came to music.
Speaker 1: It's just that you was gonna be doing this off top.
Speaker 2: Yeah, facts, facts. I feel like I ain't really have
Speaker 2: how much else I wanted to do? You know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying. If I wasn't rapping, I'd probably be cutting her.
Speaker 2: That ain't what I want to do, you feel.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Yeah, that's what you can do.
Speaker 2: Hey, what you want to do, But that ain't what
Speaker 2: I want to do. Shit, I don't even like it.
Speaker 2: I don't even like the standing one spot for a
Speaker 2: long god damn time.
Speaker 1: Ship. You ain't gotta tell me I've been the same
Speaker 1: way here. I'm forty six.
Speaker 2: Yeah you see, I mean so shit? Yeah, I said,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm I'm gonna do this ship. You
Speaker 2: feel I feel like I furthered my pops footsteps. You
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: He did, man, That's what it's all about. Evolving to
Speaker 1: the next level, you know what I'm saying, and keep
Speaker 1: going and that's what you're supposed to do, nigga, then
Speaker 1: your yo, see, do it and take it to the
Speaker 1: next level too. But the smartest thing you understood who
Speaker 1: your pops was a lot of a lot of us
Speaker 1: don't get to know where we come from. And if
Speaker 1: you know where you come from early, you can already
Speaker 1: get ready to prepare for and that way you don't
Speaker 1: skip the life. Like if I I was talking in
Speaker 1: an interview with Stack Stephen Jackson, I was telling him, like,
Speaker 1: my grand my great grandparent is I mean my great
Speaker 1: grand on his head? Tell me? And I knew this
Speaker 1: twenty years ago, I would have prepared for myself to
Speaker 1: with even more. You know what I'm saying, even though
Speaker 1: it's always been in me to do what I do
Speaker 1: for my people and ship there. But had I do
Speaker 1: that earlier, I probably would have even went that way
Speaker 1: even even sooner. Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: See what you was saying?
Speaker 1: Yeah, kind of like what you did. You knew off
Speaker 1: top what it is. I had to figure it out time,
Speaker 1: which it ain't a bad thing, but it's still it's
Speaker 1: just still if as soon as you know the bigger
Speaker 1: you can make an impact and make a change for
Speaker 1: a difference to it's still that to the next person
Speaker 1: and to the next seed, because that's all. That's all,
Speaker 1: that's all pragice man.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, they passed and you feel now money too.
Speaker 1: Ship exactly, all that ship money. They got power, property, powers, everything,
Speaker 1: money and ship. It's about power ship, oh.
Speaker 2: God, because if we choose everything in the day, it's
Speaker 2: gonna be about the man with the power.
Speaker 1: If the man with the powers, the man who got
Speaker 1: the most controlled. Uh, that's just like the internet. We
Speaker 1: ain't got no power because we ain't got no control
Speaker 1: on nothing on the fact. That's that's what the power
Speaker 1: they got that ship, but we got money. Yeah, we
Speaker 1: got the money, but we ain't got no fucking power. Yeah.
Speaker 1: That's they'll give you money all day now here, give
Speaker 1: them niggas money because you know why they give you
Speaker 1: money because they own everything that you got to buy.
Speaker 1: You give you what I'm saying. So we gotta figure
Speaker 1: out the way. That's why we can't trip off what
Speaker 1: they doing. We gotta create our own ship. And that's
Speaker 1: what that's what I try to do. That's what we
Speaker 1: do with the Black Effect. That's what that's why it's
Speaker 1: Oh my goddamn Charlamagne and and doll it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, sales. Black people always sell the ship we're supposed
Speaker 2: to keep.
Speaker 1: But we will, man, We we just at the beginning
Speaker 1: of it. That's what we is folk. You know, we
Speaker 1: can't we can't say what other people should do. We
Speaker 1: do it. You know what I'm saying. That's and that's
Speaker 1: what you do. That's what I do. So what else? Man?
Speaker 1: Tell me some old ship. Man, tell me ask you
Speaker 1: some questions. What's going on in your life? How you
Speaker 1: like being, your personal life, your regular life? Are you
Speaker 1: at peace and life? Are you happy? Yeah?
Speaker 2: I am, Bro, I really feel fucking great, like you
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, even though I'm still like, I'm
Speaker 2: still working to get to a certain position. And everybody
Speaker 2: got their battles. You did with the scientist, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: same time. Don't fight me about him with a smile.
Speaker 2: Now you feel me like I'm rocking and rolling.
Speaker 1: You're me. What's your battle, man? Is it about? It
Speaker 1: might not even be a battle. What do you want
Speaker 1: to talk about it? Cool? Men?
Speaker 2: I mean, it's honestly just it's just music, bro. It's music,
Speaker 2: and the music game is the music. It's a huge
Speaker 2: the behind the scene ship. I'm having a lot of
Speaker 2: business right now, going through some changes. I'm transitioning from
Speaker 2: QC to who knows you feel me?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I get what you're saying. It's the
Speaker 1: unknown part of this game. Yeah. But that's how life is, man.
Speaker 1: That's why it's always.
Speaker 2: Enjoy this ship though, bro, because the little set is
Speaker 2: really helping me get into my bag. Like I'm coming
Speaker 2: up with some crazy ship.
Speaker 1: You're not in no setback, You just you just it's
Speaker 1: like going back in the gym of going into preceson.
Speaker 2: Say it again, it's like a stand steel out.
Speaker 1: It's like you gotta go. It's just like yeah, it's
Speaker 1: like it's like a stand up like stand up you know,
Speaker 1: if you ever knows most great stand ups, it takes
Speaker 1: some five six years to come back out with doing
Speaker 1: a special because you gotta live life, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. You got to you gotta give time, like
Speaker 1: and social media makes it count of hard because it
Speaker 1: feels like if you ain't doing it right now, you
Speaker 1: ain't doing something. But like you long as you growing,
Speaker 1: and every day you see you progress and you win
Speaker 1: it and it's just bus like you said, you enjoy
Speaker 1: this ship, nigga. If you enjoy your ship and can
Speaker 1: live off of it, nigga, you don't want you want
Speaker 1: to day you stopping able to make a living off
Speaker 1: what you're doing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 1: You get what I'm saying. This ship is fun. Everything
Speaker 1: else is a bonus. We out here living.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was something I want to ask you though.
Speaker 2: I've seen you in a lot of legendary videos. Bro,
Speaker 2: I want you in one of mines. Bro, we need
Speaker 2: to do something.
Speaker 1: It's easy, we need to do something. I only do
Speaker 1: video for people I'm fans of. I'm a fair man
Speaker 1: with Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got some I be on some ship. I
Speaker 2: got some ship. I don't want to speak about the
Speaker 2: idea of the video. We top we're gonna chop it
Speaker 2: up about that, you feel me?
Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah ship. As soon as you
Speaker 1: said it, I started thinking a little ideas And I
Speaker 1: don't even know what you want to do the song too, Yeah.
Speaker 2: You're gonna fuck with the song too, because it's got
Speaker 2: like a little it's got a Florida vibe to it.
Speaker 1: A little bop in. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's real old school kind of too. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: we don't we gonna get it cracking though.
Speaker 1: That's what it is. But what that say be Oh
Speaker 1: the Kronk Stars, Oh the Cronk Stars. I couldn't see
Speaker 1: it cause I got I got this god damn cricket,
Speaker 1: this cricket reception.
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, I'm sure like damn my boy on the
Speaker 2: recording on the PlayStation n that whole fuzzy is hell.
Speaker 1: Hey man, I'm rich, broke, man, I'm risk broken. I
Speaker 1: don't God damn if I ain't got a split, shut
Speaker 1: the fuck up. Oh ship, that's a doubt.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I was having your child bro through your.
Speaker 1: Journey as far as being in the in the industry
Speaker 1: and having the child ship. Honestly, I I'm kind of
Speaker 1: like when I look at my daughter and now I'm
Speaker 1: kind of proud of how I raised and I'm kind
Speaker 1: of happy I did because when I had my daughter,
Speaker 1: it was like right when the social media boom, and
Speaker 1: like my daughter was like one of the first bait,
Speaker 1: like I had, like I hate put my daughter on.
Speaker 1: When I had her, I had put on social media
Speaker 1: and like she was one of the first people that
Speaker 1: it was had a baby on that like I could
Speaker 1: have like raised her through this YouTube ear and raised
Speaker 1: her like that she could have been one of them
Speaker 1: YouTube kids. But I never did that, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I never raised her. So now that she's fifteen,
Speaker 1: she's a regular child, and I'm happy I did that
Speaker 1: because like now I look at a lot of kids
Speaker 1: that was raising that shit, and I'm like, man, I'm
Speaker 1: glad my daughter ain't on that type of town. Like
Speaker 1: my daughter into she into regular shit, like she she
Speaker 1: like Tyler the crazyor she likes Kate Pop like she
Speaker 1: an anime like And I'm not saying like she ain't
Speaker 1: gonna do some shit like kids do shit, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. But like I'm proud of what how
Speaker 1: I raised as far as like keeping away from shit,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I don't post her like
Speaker 1: I stopped posting a posting on social media like when
Speaker 1: she was about about four or five, because people start
Speaker 1: I realized people recognized us. Are like now I'm not
Speaker 1: posting no more. But outside of that, I just let
Speaker 1: her live a regular life. And she's a regular, a
Speaker 1: regular girl, you know what I'm saying. So I raised
Speaker 1: mind just like a regular child. Just try to be
Speaker 1: as much as I can but in this game, with
Speaker 1: you on the road, there's no way to be there
Speaker 1: fully twenty four seven in the life, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So you gone and that way you're not
Speaker 1: gonna be there. With technology, you can be there, which
Speaker 1: that's a blessing that because you got FaceTime and all
Speaker 1: this shit here. So I met her life like that.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you and your your baby mama together,
Speaker 1: but me and my baby mama ain't together, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So so we still work through that shit.
Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, shit, I got
Speaker 1: a relationship with it, and the's smart. The best thing
Speaker 1: happened with me with my jit was the first year
Speaker 1: I was with her every year, every day. So I
Speaker 1: think that little one year bond kept it was important
Speaker 1: for life because it's like a it's like a subconscious bond,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So around the young time,
Speaker 1: that's the most important times because that's gonna bar for life,
Speaker 1: even when ship around them, even when the world probably
Speaker 1: giving them bullshit, that barb gonna keep it together. Damn
Speaker 1: you said you got a seven year old daughter, right, Yeah?
Speaker 1: Did she know who you is? As as a as
Speaker 1: an artist or as it entertainment.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, she definitely know because somebody always showing her
Speaker 2: the videos. You know what I'm saying. She always end
Speaker 2: up running up across ship and the thing ain't gonna lie.
Speaker 2: The thing I hate about this shit is like if
Speaker 2: I have like some ass shaking in my video, I
Speaker 2: hate for her to see this shit. But she gonna
Speaker 2: see it, and you feel me, Yeah, she go see it.
Speaker 2: I don't want her to think that just that's me
Speaker 2: when I'm not around, like you feel me.
Speaker 1: That's why it's good for her to see how you
Speaker 1: handle women. You know what I'm saying. Yeah, because I
Speaker 1: mean you say, well, people, we humans. We don't go
Speaker 1: by what we say. We go by what people do.
Speaker 1: We go by actions. People don't listen, they follow. So
Speaker 1: it's the same thing with kids, Like they pay attention
Speaker 1: more to you how you do than what you say,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So as long as they
Speaker 1: see how you acting and you see how you treat women.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, all the women in your life,
Speaker 1: they gonna they gonna follow suitand like that's what they are.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, That's how they gonna mold
Speaker 1: the man that they won't. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: as far as that's what I do with my daughter,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And like I said, my daughter,
Speaker 1: I ain't saying my daughter might not e a fuck
Speaker 1: you know shit, but shit, she showed doing it doing
Speaker 1: it right so far. I don't know shit about it.
Speaker 1: Shit she good, you know what I'm saying. So that's
Speaker 1: all thing you can ask for. Stop it, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Shit, I just thought about it, like
Speaker 1: my daughter fifteen. Shit, I know I was fucking at fifteen.
Speaker 2: Shit, well I was. I was haunted to them all
Speaker 2: for at fifteen.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was dropping all type of dick this shit crazy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we got stuff talking about that. I need to go
Speaker 1: on something. Man.
Speaker 2: You know I would, I wouldh they would have taught
Speaker 2: to us bro along in school critic bro credit Yes, Bro?
Speaker 1: Why why so?
Speaker 2: Because? Bro? I feel like motherfuckers don't really get a
Speaker 2: chance to learn this ship until they damn they're grown.
Speaker 2: Growl you feel me like, and I feel like this
Speaker 2: ship is important. I do think that, you know what,
Speaker 2: they might as well put that in school.
Speaker 1: But see, I'm probably the wrong person talk about with
Speaker 1: credit because I don't funk with it, really, I really don't.
Speaker 1: I've never really had you because, like I've I've learned
Speaker 1: to just live in my means and and and build
Speaker 1: bill for what I need. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: I've been blessed enough to to live off the LIBB
Speaker 1: that way. You know what I'm saying, Like I haven't
Speaker 1: and I haven't checked my I haven't checked my credit
Speaker 1: score in about ten years because I haven't had to.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, I haven't had no reason to. Now,
Speaker 1: I'm not saying like people shouldn't use credit, but for
Speaker 1: me and a lot of people I know that have
Speaker 1: used it, are they like, you got some people that
Speaker 1: use it for the right reason, but a lot of
Speaker 1: people they like saying, a lot of people is using
Speaker 1: the credit shit and they fucked up because they bit
Speaker 1: off more than they can cheer, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And that's where they fuck up because you think, all right, shit,
Speaker 1: I can get a mortgage for thirty years and such
Speaker 1: and such and something gonna happen. What if something happened,
Speaker 1: like say Fan's like if I get like this shit
Speaker 1: happened with me when I got hit by cars, I
Speaker 1: almost died, and that chill for you. I couldn't work
Speaker 1: for a year, And if I had a mortgage, I
Speaker 1: would have been fucked up. Say if I had a
Speaker 1: twenty thousand dollars mortgage, I would have been fucked up.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I would have been trying
Speaker 1: to scramb or do shit I ain't want to do,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So I've never wanted to
Speaker 1: be like that. But some people they smart with credit,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But I'm not. I'm I'm
Speaker 1: really just simple with everything in life. I keep shit simple.
Speaker 1: And by keeping shit simple, I don't have that much obligation.
Speaker 1: Like I don't want a million dollar credit line. I
Speaker 1: don't want none of that. Ship I can make a million,
Speaker 1: you see what I'm saying. And that's always seen everything
Speaker 1: in life. So that's that's how I look at credit.
Speaker 1: But that's why I say, I'm probably not the person
Speaker 1: to talk to you about credit, you know, cause Ship
Speaker 1: they get mad at me about He's soooo it is.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying. Yeah,
Speaker 1: But I get why some people use it though, because
Speaker 1: I mean, everybody won't have. Everybody not blessed enough to
Speaker 1: have the money off the top. But in our business,
Speaker 1: we're able to get money a lot of this at
Speaker 1: a lump summer, at a quick time, so we could
Speaker 1: do shit like that. Well, we don't need as credit
Speaker 1: as everybody else. So that's why I don't see like
Speaker 1: people like us while we sold unless it's just something
Speaker 1: that you just want to get for twenty million dollars.
Speaker 1: Now you're putting yourself in a hole. You get what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, not fit but on this but on this
Speaker 1: level where we can build that you can get your
Speaker 1: shit off of what you what you make off of
Speaker 1: show money, you know what I'm saying, What you make
Speaker 1: off of your album stream, what you make off of publishing.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Shit, you can make it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's your credit right there. It's been working shit, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's your credit right there. I feel it.
Speaker 2: How do you exist the y'all space without trying to
Speaker 2: be like everybody else?
Speaker 1: I think it's always instilled to me just from day one.
Speaker 1: I always was a trailblazer more so than just wanted
Speaker 1: to always wanted to do the next thing. Always wanted
Speaker 1: to be the first, always wanted to try something else,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So God Like, I feel
Speaker 1: like you're counting the same way too, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So so by me being that way, I'm
Speaker 1: programmed that way. I get when I see everybody else
Speaker 1: doing it, I don't want to do it no more.
Speaker 1: That's what took me so long to do podcasts, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, is because once you see everybody
Speaker 1: do it, you're just like, all right, I don't want
Speaker 1: to do it, you know what I'm saying. But but
Speaker 1: at the same time, I seen there was there was
Speaker 1: a space that needs to be that needs to be
Speaker 1: to be be open. You know what I'm saying, I
Speaker 1: be addressed. So that's why I came in, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I felt like, if you don't like,
Speaker 1: if you see a problem in something, either fix it
Speaker 1: or shut the fuck up. That's why I'm in the
Speaker 1: podcast game now.
Speaker 2: It's how I think, that's how you think you do that.
Speaker 2: And then if I'm gonna I'll be like, damn everybody
Speaker 2: doing it. But then I'd be like, if I do it,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna have to try to do something, it's gonna
Speaker 2: have to be something unique about it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and that's how you gotta do it. You
Speaker 1: just want to make it unique or make it simple.
Speaker 1: And that's why we came over with this is just
Speaker 1: something simple and understanding and try to give a different perspective,
Speaker 1: because I mean, people know me for comedy. People might
Speaker 1: know me for music, people are like over for social media.
Speaker 1: It might know me from other things, but they don't
Speaker 1: know me from just being a person. Get that can
Speaker 1: give sounded perspective. You know what I'm saying. I don't
Speaker 1: like to say I give like a be a guru
Speaker 1: guru or some shit, but like I'd just like to
Speaker 1: give simple advice. You know what I'm saying. Don't take
Speaker 1: much to figure shit out. You know, sometimes we overthink,
Speaker 1: especially in this industry and his life. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. In this game, when you're trying to make
Speaker 1: it to the next level, it feel empty, feels like shit,
Speaker 1: I don't know where I'm gonna go now. Because you
Speaker 1: understand how the industry is, and you understand how fickle
Speaker 1: people are. You trying to figure it out, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, But you have to understand how to
Speaker 1: have peace through all that, because otherwise you'll go crazy
Speaker 1: and start getting better. You don't want to be that
Speaker 1: old better nigga and this shit because I know a
Speaker 1: lot of old better motherfuckers in it. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. It's easy to become that, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So I don't never That's why you tell
Speaker 1: the earliest like these niggas scared of me? Who gives
Speaker 1: the fun if they scared of you? Fuckle? You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like, I'm gonna give him something to
Speaker 1: be scared of if they're scared, not wait till I
Speaker 1: really I'm gonna show him book a book, a book,
Speaker 1: a boob. But fuck, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: that's how I held the ship, you know. All right,
Speaker 1: let me ask you a question. What's your end game
Speaker 1: in life?
Speaker 2: Like what you mean by that? Like?
Speaker 1: All right, We'll make you two questions in your career
Speaker 1: and the life at who you is as a person,
Speaker 1: where you where you want to see yourself as a person,
Speaker 1: Where you see yourself at sixty five.
Speaker 4: Mm sixty five, I see myself living like John Dunn't
Speaker 4: yellow start like that?
Speaker 2: But I'm so bad coming out with a new one.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I see my man, see myself living like that,
Speaker 2: not without a bullshit, you know what I'm saying, But
Speaker 2: you know, laying But.
Speaker 1: Just like he said, bullshit come with ship when you
Speaker 1: pretrying to protect your ship.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah that's true. That's true. But you know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying. But uh, I like peace. I'm gonna be
Speaker 2: a I'm a peaceful nigga. I like to chill out.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. You get some head and
Speaker 2: or the woo woo.
Speaker 1: You feel me? So are you doing that? Now? Are
Speaker 1: you preparing yourself now? Because in order to be that,
Speaker 1: come tell you about this age ship coming from old
Speaker 1: nigga myself. That shit come like this nigga. You looking
Speaker 1: back like that, damnit?
Speaker 2: Yeah six to five yeah fact.
Speaker 1: But but the thing is you have to you have
Speaker 1: to like program yourself now just like now you everything
Speaker 1: you are now is but what you started when you
Speaker 1: said when you were a jit, a super jit at
Speaker 1: six years old. So in order to wanted to be
Speaker 1: that person that you said, I want to be like
Speaker 1: done't you gotta be that done right now? Yeah? That's
Speaker 1: all I do right now I prepare myself to be
Speaker 1: old pop pop nigga. Look at the show. My show
Speaker 1: is this nigga. Yeah, so you gotta prepare yourself, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So that's how you do that shit. Man.
Speaker 1: But that's all man, that's I appreciate you coming on
Speaker 1: the show.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: I hope I gave you some game. Man. I hope
Speaker 1: you get some insight on life. If I didn't, that's
Speaker 1: on you, nigga. So thank y'all for tuning the man.
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