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Speaker 6: It is Wednesday, October fourth, twenty twenty three, Season nineteen,
Speaker 6: episode number forty five. Welcome to the latest edition Oh
Speaker 6: the Break, live from the SWBC Mortgage Studios. At the
Speaker 6: start today we start talking Cowboys versus forty nine Ers.
Speaker 6: Brian will have his breakdown of the Cowboys offense versus
Speaker 6: forty nine Ers defense. We will also get a few
Speaker 6: updates here, hopefully at some point during the show on
Speaker 6: some injuries. But we'll kind of lay the table on
Speaker 6: what that looks like and then start getting you guys
Speaker 6: ready for this upcoming game on Sunday Night Football.
Speaker 7: Got my crew here, Let's start off first.
Speaker 6: I know that Mike McCarthy will be going we'll be
Speaker 6: approaching the podium here momentarily, but in the meantime, no,
Speaker 6: see just kind of lay the groundwork on what we're
Speaker 6: looking at as far as injuries for this week, What
Speaker 6: should we be keeping an eye on, and what do
Speaker 6: we think is the status as of right now?
Speaker 3: And as you stated, we'll get some real time updates
Speaker 3: from Mike McCarthy here via text momentarily, but yesterday is
Speaker 3: what we have as far as the most updated. Ric
Speaker 3: o'dowdo hip contusion is what it's being described as. He's
Speaker 3: expected to be limited in today's practice, today, me and Wednesday.
Speaker 3: Zach Martin suffered a quad injury on Sunday. He's also
Speaker 3: expected to be limited. He and Rico will both do
Speaker 3: some work with the rehab group and then the expectation
Speaker 3: is they'll get a little bit of participation with the
Speaker 3: team practice. Tyrone Smith knee, he's been out the past
Speaker 3: two games. Expectations that he will be with the rehab
Speaker 3: group on Wednesday and they'll see how he feels after that.
Speaker 3: But I expect that he'll be DMP four Wednesday. We'll
Speaker 3: see if they wrap him up for Thursday, which is
Speaker 3: a big day in Cowboys Nation as far as practices
Speaker 3: are concerned. Knock going all the wood you need to
Speaker 3: when it comes to Thursday practice, Michael Parson's dealing with
Speaker 3: a knee and an ankle injury. They were kind of
Speaker 3: banged up against the Patriots. Michael told media on yesterday
Speaker 3: at a somewhat of a charity event with a youth
Speaker 3: sports team that he's good to go for Sunday, so
Speaker 3: as long as there are no setbacks from nothing worse.
Speaker 3: Since this week, Michael Parsons will be on the field
Speaker 3: and that's massive for the Cowboys. Can't afford to not
Speaker 3: have him, so Dowell and Martin have a chance to play.
Speaker 3: Michael Parsons sounds like he's a full go. Tyrone Smith
Speaker 3: still wait and see, all right. One of the quick note,
Speaker 3: I wanted to hit here real quick. Actually, right before
Speaker 3: we went on the air, I started seeing some news
Speaker 3: reports of a former Cowboy that may actually be out
Speaker 3: on the street again as a free agent, both Adam
Speaker 3: Schefter at ESPN and kevinpatrat NFL dot Com.
Speaker 6: Or reporting that he will be released. And I will
Speaker 6: say this before we get into the conversation. Let me
Speaker 6: be real clear, these are the opinions of this group
Speaker 6: based upon being media people. We are not representing anything
Speaker 6: from the football side of the football operations part of
Speaker 6: the building. This is just opinions that we're giving based
Speaker 6: on our impressions of Randy.
Speaker 7: Gregory and the Cowboys team.
Speaker 6: So that being said, if Randy Gregory is released, as
Speaker 6: these reports are saying he will be, do you think
Speaker 6: the Cowboys.
Speaker 7: Should be interested in possibly bringing him back.
Speaker 4: I don't see the fit now.
Speaker 3: Obviously saw the fit then when they were willing to
Speaker 3: sign him a free agency before they lost him out
Speaker 3: to the Broncos. But now when you look at what
Speaker 3: Dante Fowler has come in and done and being researching
Speaker 3: under Dan Quinn, you want to see Sam Williams continue
Speaker 3: to ramp up and the only way to do that
Speaker 3: is to keep getting this guy the reps. And then,
Speaker 3: of course you know you have Mike and DeMarcus Lawrence,
Speaker 3: so you know, from a Cowboys standpoint, you would then
Speaker 3: be trying amend fences to bring in a D five
Speaker 3: maybe because who are you taking reps away from Fowler
Speaker 3: who just got you a strip fumble that you took
Speaker 3: for a touchdown, or Sam who you need to take
Speaker 3: that year two leap. I just don't see it happening
Speaker 3: from a Cowboys standpoint, And then from a Randy Gregory standpoint.
Speaker 3: I think Bill Belichick is probably on his phone already.
Speaker 3: I mean, Belichick just lost Matthew Judon, he lost Christian
Speaker 3: Gonzales and then had to give up a couple of
Speaker 3: picks to go back and get J. C. Jackson, which
Speaker 3: probably put them out of the trademarket for a pass
Speaker 3: rusher after losing Judon. But then the timing goes, you
Speaker 3: have a veteran pass rusher who can still be effective
Speaker 3: on the edge come into free agency. I think this
Speaker 3: has Bill Belichick written all over it, which would also
Speaker 3: give Gregory a chance to kind of rebuild himself for
Speaker 3: a better contract than twenty twenty four.
Speaker 2: Two years ago. They were willing to pay him. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, and they thought enough of him, and I
Speaker 2: actually they thought they had the deal done. You know,
Speaker 2: you have a Denver based agent, and so you know,
Speaker 2: it makes sense to try and maybe build some more
Speaker 2: clientele there with the Broncos, which is always good. That
Speaker 2: way the guy can kind of look after Randy while
Speaker 2: he's there in Denver. Always been a huge fan of
Speaker 2: Randy Gregor. The injury part of his career has been difficult.
Speaker 2: The mental struggles that he's dealt with. I think he's
Speaker 2: come through brilliantly. I would absolutely bring him back, and
Speaker 2: I really don't have time for people's feelings right now
Speaker 2: when it comes to playing time. I'm kind of in
Speaker 2: that mode where to me, it's about trying to find
Speaker 2: the best best players to put on the field and
Speaker 2: rush the passer or play run defense. Run defense not
Speaker 2: always one of Randy's strength, But I know with Randy
Speaker 2: you could put him wide, He's fine, you could kick
Speaker 2: guys inside of him. He's a really good combination player
Speaker 2: when you work games with him. When you start to
Speaker 2: talk about the one thing we'll get into with the
Speaker 2: forty nine ers is they create a lot of forman pressure.
Speaker 2: You bring Randy Gregory in here, I think you create
Speaker 2: foreman pressure. Haven't been completely sold on what I've seen
Speaker 2: from Dords Armstrong. I know Dward's Armstrong has a is
Speaker 2: in the last year trying to get a deal and
Speaker 2: all that you know going forward, But to me, I
Speaker 2: have no problems with trying to add guys that I
Speaker 2: know legitimately can rush the passer and I know this
Speaker 2: guy can't do that.
Speaker 8: I agree with everything you both said about the talent,
Speaker 8: but I would say no, thank you. I do take
Speaker 8: feelings into consideration. I am a very stubborn person and
Speaker 8: I will admit that. But after everything we did with
Speaker 8: the organization did and then I know there was a
Speaker 8: whole confusion and whether was it the agent or not
Speaker 8: and what there was a lot going on and at
Speaker 8: the end the deal didn't work out. But even then,
Speaker 8: the comments that were made on social media, I don't
Speaker 8: forget about that. I mean, after they've supported him for
Speaker 8: so long and then he comes out with I forget
Speaker 8: exactly a word by word what he had tweeted at
Speaker 8: the time. I'm like, I'm sorry, I don't That's like
Speaker 8: a slap in the face to me. And no, I
Speaker 8: don't care if i'm if I have zero pressure right now,
Speaker 8: tours like pressuring the quarterback and I'm here struggling and
Speaker 8: losing every game, I don't care. I'm good.
Speaker 2: If you get fired, then you get fired for not
Speaker 2: having then you get fired for not having players. See,
Speaker 2: this is where and I get that, this is where
Speaker 2: you have to disconnect yourself from the situation. You have
Speaker 2: to sit there and look at it and go, Okay,
Speaker 2: what is the one thing that Randy Gregory could help
Speaker 2: us to and again two years ago you were committed
Speaker 2: to doing that, dan Quinn probably signed off on it.
Speaker 2: Dan Quinn's like, yeah, heck yeah, I can use this guy.
Speaker 2: So to me, I'm not in the business of getting fired,
Speaker 2: you know, I'm in the business of trying to find
Speaker 2: players so my defense can match up with the teams
Speaker 2: I'm playing on my schedule, you know, the Philadelphias, the Detroits,
Speaker 2: the Chargers coming up. That's what I'm trying to figure out.
Speaker 2: I don't win enough games I get fired. Nobody's gonna
Speaker 2: feel sorry for me when I get fired, you know.
Speaker 8: But you also have to look. I think the one
Speaker 8: thing that always came down with Randy Gregory was his
Speaker 8: talent was always so innate. He had that innate talent. Yeah,
Speaker 8: and we always talked about what he could be, and
Speaker 8: it always came down to how available he was because
Speaker 8: he kept getting.
Speaker 2: Suspended and all of that.
Speaker 8: And and again I don't I don't. I take mental
Speaker 8: health super super serious one hundred percent, So I'm not
Speaker 8: trying to downplay that. But when you talk about availability
Speaker 8: and can you count on something like that and someone
Speaker 8: like that, is that someone that will fit in now
Speaker 8: with the culture that's currently being created.
Speaker 2: In the law. If you, if you told me that
Speaker 2: you are against this move because of availability, I really
Speaker 2: don't have a leg to stand on because that has
Speaker 2: been a history. But I do know that when he
Speaker 2: is available that he could be a difference maker as
Speaker 2: a player. You know, there's a reason why. You know,
Speaker 2: the Denver gave him five years, seventy million dollars second
Speaker 2: year in a deal. Now what's happened is Denver's in
Speaker 2: a situation right now with a brand new head coach,
Speaker 2: brand new staff. There's that guy over there is setting examples,
Speaker 2: is what he's doing. He's saying, Okay, how can I
Speaker 2: you know, I'm gonna get somebody's attention in this locker
Speaker 2: room today, And that's how you do things like that.
Speaker 2: But like I said, if you told me, if you
Speaker 2: told me, hey, I don't want the player because he's
Speaker 2: not always available, you have a point.
Speaker 3: And when it comes to like Randy Grigory and just
Speaker 3: mental health in you know, specifically, everyone knows how I
Speaker 3: feel about mental health and knowing both sides of the coin.
Speaker 3: As far as the availability part of it, the non
Speaker 3: injury availability issues which were the NFL suspensions around marijuana,
Speaker 3: and my feelings on all of that are relevant.
Speaker 4: So I'm not going to get into all that.
Speaker 2: He's proven to be right by the way what he
Speaker 2: thought about correct for a year.
Speaker 3: And then here we are new CBA, new testing rules
Speaker 3: that don't apply as far as you know, suspension for
Speaker 3: marijuana and a certain and a much much of a degree.
Speaker 3: But i will say this, my main thing is for
Speaker 3: that thing when that thing fell apart. Between both sides,
Speaker 3: there's Brandy Gregor and his agent side of the story,
Speaker 3: and they're the cowboys side of the story, and there's
Speaker 3: dirty laundry on both sides. I'm not going to air
Speaker 3: either of the dirty laundry because I know both sides.
Speaker 3: What I will say though, is knowing both sides, I
Speaker 3: give grace to both sides of that coin to say, hey,
Speaker 3: it's possible to mend those fences. It's ugly, but it's possible.
Speaker 3: That being said, to answer Derek's question, I'm not going
Speaker 3: to put any of that into play. As far as
Speaker 3: my thought process or potentially or not potentially bringing Randy
Speaker 3: Gregory back, I'm looking at it strictly as from.
Speaker 4: A cowboy schematics.
Speaker 3: I don't know that he would be the Dee f
Speaker 3: five that you would want in the building if your
Speaker 3: plan is to develop Sam Williams and to keep Dante
Speaker 3: Fowler out there as well.
Speaker 4: I don't see that fit.
Speaker 3: Because you probably are gonna have to pay him, probably
Speaker 3: more than you would typically play it, pay ade five
Speaker 3: to get that done. Now you flip over to the
Speaker 3: player side of it, because free agency is a two
Speaker 3: way street. From a player side of it, Randy Gregory's
Speaker 3: agent is looking at him, him saying, there's better situations
Speaker 3: out there. New England is a better situation. You'll probably
Speaker 3: get paid a little bit more, You'll likely be a
Speaker 3: starter in the absence of Judaan, and you get a
Speaker 3: chance to kind of rebuild yourself to maybe get back
Speaker 3: into the pool in twenty twenty four. So feelings hurt,
Speaker 3: feelings aside, and burnt bridges aside, take all of that,
Speaker 3: throwt out the window, and if we're strictly talking football
Speaker 3: from both sides, I don't see it.
Speaker 6: And let's also be clear that the one thing I
Speaker 6: know about Jerry Jones is he is not one of
Speaker 6: the whole crutches.
Speaker 7: He is.
Speaker 6: It is about when it comes down to it, like
Speaker 6: it's business, and I think he looks at it as business.
Speaker 6: It's the reason why you can have an ezek. You'll
Speaker 6: come back last week and them get you on it,
Speaker 6: put it on.
Speaker 7: Video board and say, man, he is one of us, right,
Speaker 7: and the.
Speaker 6: Cowboys had to cut him. Cowboys cut him a smith
Speaker 6: like there are. There are lots of situations. I've seen
Speaker 6: this over no.
Speaker 8: No, no, no no, I have different no no.
Speaker 7: I've seen this organization.
Speaker 6: I've seen this situation a number of times where you
Speaker 6: could say the cowboys were in a situation where they
Speaker 6: were spurned by a player, or the player had something
Speaker 6: to say walking out of the door after the cowboys
Speaker 6: cut him. And and then you see when that guy's retired,
Speaker 6: he's back here and he's in the building and he's
Speaker 6: got off the gray jacket, and the cowboys are like,
Speaker 6: he's one of ours. I just don't think Jerry takes
Speaker 6: it personal like that. So I don't think Jerry would
Speaker 6: look at it like that. That's my own personal opinion.
Speaker 6: I don't think he would look at it like that.
Speaker 6: But I do think your point about availability is the
Speaker 6: most important.
Speaker 7: That's the point you look at it.
Speaker 6: I think at least in part, he is not he
Speaker 6: will be if these reports are accurate that he's going
Speaker 6: to be released.
Speaker 7: Then I think in part that's.
Speaker 6: Because over two seasons he's now played ten games he
Speaker 6: missed I think what it was eleven games last season,
Speaker 6: And on top of that, in the games that he's
Speaker 6: played in those ten games, he only has three sacks
Speaker 6: and twenty one tackles. When you're paying a guy five
Speaker 6: year deal word seventy million dollars, your expectations are you
Speaker 6: going to get a little bit more in your pass rush?
Speaker 8: Remember how what has been the longest that he's played
Speaker 8: in one season?
Speaker 4: We could find out, Yeah, I assume somebody can pull
Speaker 4: that up real quick.
Speaker 7: Sure, but again I think you can.
Speaker 6: I don't think anyone is going to argue availability has
Speaker 6: been his biggest.
Speaker 7: Death around his career.
Speaker 6: And so for me, that's when I look at the
Speaker 6: depth of this defense, of the defensive end position in particular,
Speaker 6: I'm like, hey, I know you may say Durance Armstrong
Speaker 6: may not be showing me all I want.
Speaker 7: What I look at is.
Speaker 6: I'm like, he can make a few plays here and there.
Speaker 6: He's not going to be a world beater. But what
Speaker 6: I do love about him. Is he shows up every week,
Speaker 6: he's available, he's available, He's consistently available.
Speaker 7: And I don't know that there are guys on that
Speaker 7: list that I.
Speaker 6: Would think I would want to take time from for
Speaker 6: a guy that I don't consider to be So.
Speaker 3: To answer your question, eleven starts in twenty twenty one.
Speaker 4: That's the well.
Speaker 8: Also, I think we've seen when people don't fit in
Speaker 8: Laurria laughing.
Speaker 2: I'm laughing because just real quick, what about Tyron Smith
Speaker 2: and Tyler Smith?
Speaker 6: We can have that conversation now. I don't think Tyler
Speaker 6: is the same conversation. I think Tyron is a conversation
Speaker 6: that we've already had and we've talked about, like, how
Speaker 6: do you manage when you're going into a season you
Speaker 6: have to be thinking about I think they need to
Speaker 6: be thinking about, you're not going to have him for
Speaker 6: a full season.
Speaker 7: Yeah, and if they've made the.
Speaker 6: Decision that his talent is good enough for them to
Speaker 6: deal with that, that's one thing. But I also will
Speaker 6: say this, are you trying to make the equation? Are
Speaker 6: you trying to make the equivalent between the ability of
Speaker 6: Tyron Smith when he's healthy ability?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 2: No, but say to me, to me, Tyler Smith as
Speaker 2: a tackle is the future. That's the future to me,
Speaker 2: and they chose to go with non availability at times
Speaker 2: at tackle instead of putting the guy out there who's
Speaker 2: the future of your team.
Speaker 6: But is that about the fact that they consider the
Speaker 6: talent they would consider in this instance, lets's they were
Speaker 6: comparing these two things. They consider the talent of Tyron
Speaker 6: Smith at that position with what else they've got better
Speaker 6: and more important and work the risk than defensive end,
Speaker 6: where they've got lots of different options and it's the
Speaker 6: same level of unavailability. I think there are more factors
Speaker 6: that are involved in that than just availability versus unavailability.
Speaker 3: Right, I mean that's completely factual. I mean because contextually speaking,
Speaker 3: you're both right, but you have to apply the extra variables.
Speaker 3: Like you said, they're thinner on offensive line than they
Speaker 3: are on defensive front. And then this is a league
Speaker 3: where you're seeing the offensive line play kind of take
Speaker 3: a large hit.
Speaker 4: Because you talked about it a few weeks ago.
Speaker 3: It's the quality of the offensive lineman that are coming
Speaker 3: into the league. So the pipeline isn't there, So it
Speaker 3: gives you a little bit, It gives you an option
Speaker 3: to give more grace to a guy like Tyron Smith
Speaker 3: than maybe you would have given to Randy Gregory. But again,
Speaker 3: this is all if we're talking about feelings, we got
Speaker 3: to get feelings off the table. Availability absolutely a great point.
Speaker 3: Scheme fit or lack thereof, absolutely great point.
Speaker 7: Let's not make let's not mince words there.
Speaker 6: We know d Q can get the most out of
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, that's the part I do agree with you, like,
Speaker 6: that's the part what makes you a little bit like.
Speaker 2: Out of him. There is a willingness. There was a
Speaker 2: willingness at the time to give Randy Gregory probably seventy
Speaker 2: million dollars. Maybe not the way that maybe not the
Speaker 2: way the Broncos were willing to do it. But but
Speaker 2: Jerry Jones, I mean Jerry Jones to to you know,
Speaker 2: has gone out of his way to always try and
Speaker 2: help Randy Gregory even and you know, to me, there's
Speaker 2: that You're absolutely right. I don't think he'll ever have
Speaker 2: a bad thing to say about Randy Gregory. I don't think.
Speaker 2: I think the agent is a whole other thing to it.
Speaker 8: I think that's why Jerry backed him up so long,
Speaker 8: because you do get to know Randy. He's such a
Speaker 8: great guy. Like you know, there's nothing like he's not
Speaker 8: a bad person. So it's very smart. So it's one
Speaker 8: of those things that yes, you want to support not
Speaker 8: as a player, just as a player, but also as
Speaker 8: a person be there. And I think that's why he
Speaker 8: stayed here for so long, where so many critics and
Speaker 8: I think me at some point and a lot of
Speaker 8: people at some point before you really got to know
Speaker 8: the full situation behind every suspension type of stuff. They
Speaker 8: they allowed him to try to get better and gave
Speaker 8: him all the support he wanted, he needed, and the
Speaker 8: talent has always been there. But again, can he be available?
Speaker 8: And then I just remember the other thing that I
Speaker 8: was going to say, is he and I don't know
Speaker 8: the answer to this, but would he be a good fit?
Speaker 8: Like I mentioned before in the locker room, because we've
Speaker 8: seen it with other guys that just they don't fit in,
Speaker 8: not on the field, but with everybody else on the team,
Speaker 8: and that kind of creates we saw it with talk.
Speaker 8: I know that was a little difference because I know
Speaker 8: that's very different, very different. I get, I get I'm
Speaker 8: talking about yeah, you know, clicking, But.
Speaker 6: I will say this, I have never heard anything heard
Speaker 6: no suggested to me that he was ever not good
Speaker 6: with the locker room when he I think I think
Speaker 6: the players were good with him. I think he was
Speaker 6: good with the players buy and large, so I don't
Speaker 6: I wouldn't necessarily worry about that one too much. I
Speaker 6: think he was a guy that they respected, and he
Speaker 6: respected them.
Speaker 7: I think it all worked here from the statement.
Speaker 3: I'm just not I'm not putting too much. I'm not
Speaker 3: investing much of anything into the hurt feelings thing things,
Speaker 3: because we're not going to sit here and pretend that
Speaker 3: we've not said some things during a breakup only to
Speaker 3: end up back with that person a few months later.
Speaker 3: We've we've all you've never never circled back. Now, once
Speaker 3: respect done, once it's done, I honestly can't say the same,
Speaker 3: So let me move on. I mean, there are times
Speaker 3: where you say things during the toxic breakup because you
Speaker 3: thought it was going to go this way and it
Speaker 3: didn't go that way, and then you both kind of
Speaker 3: yelling at each other and then you hate each other
Speaker 3: for you know whatever, And then time passes and those feelings,
Speaker 3: those feelings lesson, and you start to kind of remember
Speaker 3: the good times a little bit and then you start
Speaker 3: do you start to kind of wonder, you know, But nonetheless,
Speaker 3: but nonetheless I'll say feelings aside, because I think feelings
Speaker 3: can be repaired, especially when you start sprinkling money on
Speaker 3: the feelings.
Speaker 4: But feelings aside.
Speaker 3: If you look at it from a football fit, from
Speaker 3: a Cowboys standpoint, I don't think that they will want
Speaker 3: to pay what they need to pay Randy Gregory to
Speaker 3: be what is likely d E five because then losing him,
Speaker 3: they got Sam Williams, so that's who they want, you know,
Speaker 3: to replace Randy Gregory with. And then from a player standpoint,
Speaker 3: like I said, they are better options Bill Belichick and
Speaker 3: the Patriots, they they're in dire straits right now. This
Speaker 3: is a move that maybe the Chiefs will probably look
Speaker 3: at something like that. Andy Reid is not adverse to
Speaker 3: adding pass rushers, and they need some depth on the
Speaker 3: defensive line behind Chris Jones.
Speaker 4: So I mean, I just don't see it.
Speaker 6: There are probably lots of teams where he'll get a
Speaker 6: better opportunity as a defensive.
Speaker 2: But he has already been paid.
Speaker 3: That's jay he's getting them latter, so that's which also
Speaker 3: makes it easier the next.
Speaker 2: Two needs to go where the fit is, where he
Speaker 2: feels the most.
Speaker 4: Comfortable, and I would get the most rips.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't be doubt if it's in the backyard. We're
Speaker 2: right here all right.
Speaker 4: Are you saying down down to South Texas?
Speaker 2: No, I'm saying right here, right here, in this backyard here,
Speaker 2: all right.
Speaker 7: We will see.
Speaker 6: That'll be interesting to keep an eye on here over
Speaker 6: the next few days, because I have some something should
Speaker 6: happen relatively quickly.
Speaker 2: We'll see.
Speaker 7: Let's take our first brick.
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Speaker 6: forty nine Ers defense.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is a true four to three front. You've
Speaker 2: seen one to play like this already this year with
Speaker 2: the New York Jets. They're going to play what they
Speaker 2: call we call the wide nine, where those defensive ends
Speaker 2: are going to be really lined up wide outside of
Speaker 2: the tackles the stream extreme outside shoulder of the offensive
Speaker 2: tackles is you look at it. Their outstanding when it
Speaker 2: comes to getting pressure on the quarterback without using the blitz,
Speaker 2: they're gonna they're gonna rush for they don't have the blitz,
Speaker 2: they will just it's it's really impressive the way that
Speaker 2: they play. They they've got. The thing about it is
Speaker 2: they tend to play a little bit more with their
Speaker 2: front and when I get into the defensive lineman where
Speaker 2: guys play a little bit stationary, they don't really move
Speaker 2: back and forth. One plays on the left, one plays
Speaker 2: on the right. That's kind of how they work. So
Speaker 2: it's it's a it's a really unique way of playing
Speaker 2: it because you see guys flipping all the time. But
Speaker 2: but not this crew. They're going to play a lot more.
Speaker 2: They're gonna play a lot more zone coverage in the
Speaker 2: secondary than they are man. They're going to be in
Speaker 2: nickel about eighty five percent of the time you're going
Speaker 2: to get I went back and looked at the divisional
Speaker 2: game last year against Dallas and the way that they
Speaker 2: played Dak They played Cover three, which is that zone
Speaker 2: look to cover two, which is a too high safety
Speaker 2: look to cover four and then Cover one in those snaps,
Speaker 2: So you know, Dak took advantage of them when they
Speaker 2: went single high or the Cover three. He did a
Speaker 2: really nice job against him that way. When they played
Speaker 2: the two safeties, the cover two look, that was a
Speaker 2: little bit more of a problem for him. So we'll
Speaker 2: see if, in fact that the forty nine ers give
Speaker 2: him a little bit more of Cover two stuff. But
Speaker 2: they're really a Cover three zone kind of a team
Speaker 2: when you look at him their defensive line, this is
Speaker 2: one of the best defensive lines that the Cowboys probably
Speaker 2: will face this year. They're physical, they're disruptive, they're difficult
Speaker 2: to move. Nick Bosa is primarily the guy you're going
Speaker 2: to have to deal with. He's going to line up
Speaker 2: on the left at the left defensive end, so that
Speaker 2: means this will be a Terrence Steele game. Last year,
Speaker 2: Terrence Steele wasn't in this game. The playoff game that
Speaker 2: was Tyron Smith. Tyrant Smith didn't fare too well against
Speaker 2: Nick Bosa in that game. That was a problem for him,
Speaker 2: So we'll see how how things work out this time around.
Speaker 2: The biggest problem deal with Bosa is the movement that
Speaker 2: he plays with like he is going to He's not
Speaker 2: just going to rush up the field. He's a He
Speaker 2: kind of just tries to break you down by suddenly
Speaker 2: just moving back and forth, kind of finding spot and
Speaker 2: then you're not sure how to get your hands on him.
Speaker 2: And that's the way he kind of breaks you down
Speaker 2: by that movement. He shakes, he wiggles, and then he
Speaker 2: just doesn't want the blockers to get his hands on him.
Speaker 2: You have to be really patient when you block him.
Speaker 2: Don't let him get you with all that movement. You
Speaker 2: got to kind of set you know, let him move
Speaker 2: all that stuff. He's not getting to the quarterback. Just
Speaker 2: let him move, let him move, let him move, and
Speaker 2: then kind of find a way to get your hands
Speaker 2: on him. So he'll also lower his head and bullrush
Speaker 2: a blocker. If he feels the blockers given too much ground,
Speaker 2: he'll just carry you right to the quarterback. This is
Speaker 2: where Terrence still needs to be careful because Terrence still
Speaker 2: at times doesn't always set his feet and when guys
Speaker 2: get under him, he gets compressed. And so that's if
Speaker 2: Bosa feels like that he can run steal back into
Speaker 2: the quarterback, he will.
Speaker 4: He will do that.
Speaker 2: He's really good on on running plays where he'll gamble.
Speaker 2: He'll gamble on just shooting the gap and just going down.
Speaker 2: And sometimes we've seen DeMarcus Lawrence do this where all
Speaker 2: of a sudden, they're lined up and they're like they're
Speaker 2: feeling like the run play is going to go to
Speaker 2: their side or go away, and they just shoot the gap.
Speaker 2: And that turns into a problem because once he gets going,
Speaker 2: he could be a hard guy to stop inside it.
Speaker 2: Tackle Armstead and Hardgrave, they're the problems that I talked about.
Speaker 2: They're going to line up, you can Armstead is going
Speaker 2: to line up on the left tackle at left tackle,
Speaker 2: and Hargrave is going to line up on the right side.
Speaker 2: Eighty five percent of snaps, these guys just kind of
Speaker 2: play those spots. But Armstead is long, powerful, He's a
Speaker 2: handful to deal with against the run. Hargrave is the
Speaker 2: pass rusher. He's the top tackle in the league when
Speaker 2: it comes to quarterback pressures. If you get these guys
Speaker 2: what we would call adjacent or right next to each other,
Speaker 2: you're gonna get some type of game. So you know,
Speaker 2: with how wide they play, and all of a sudden
Speaker 2: they get real tight and they get together well they're
Speaker 2: gonna do some game. You're probably gonna get a twist.
Speaker 2: You're gonna get it. Maybe a linebacker involved. So the
Speaker 2: Cowboys just by alignment need to be aware of where
Speaker 2: these guys play. Tight alignment probably a game, you know,
Speaker 2: far alignment, probably a little bit of a normal pass rush.
Speaker 2: Drake Jackson is another one. He's a guy plays edge
Speaker 2: opposite of Bosa. He's got three sacks, nine quarterback hits.
Speaker 2: He's exceptionally quick off the ball. He's got the ability
Speaker 2: to use that quickness in order to break down blockers.
Speaker 2: So they've got a front that's pretty pretty potent to
Speaker 2: deal with with the two big inside guys, three guys
Speaker 2: that could really get after the passer. When you look
Speaker 2: at their linebackers, Fred Warner and Drake Greenlaw, that are
Speaker 2: outstanding when it comes to play in the run.
Speaker 4: That's the league.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they are really good. You know the sixty run
Speaker 2: snaps that they face this year. The two they've got
Speaker 2: sixteen tackles, so they're not going to miss when they
Speaker 2: get in position. They're a difficult group to run away
Speaker 2: from due to their awareness, their anticipation, and their athletic ability.
Speaker 2: They both diagnose well they play down hill in a hurry.
Speaker 2: What you hope for is you take advantage of their aggressiveness.
Speaker 2: You know, we have this problem here with the Cowboys
Speaker 2: at times. Can you get them to run past the play?
Speaker 2: Can you get them to over commit in the run game.
Speaker 2: That's really your best hope because getting guys up on
Speaker 2: them can be really, really difficult. There's there's been some
Speaker 2: success when you throw the ball though against this guy,
Speaker 2: I mean, and I'm Fred Warner is the one particularly
Speaker 2: if you look at the number of targets and receptions
Speaker 2: that have come to dealing with him, he's he's one
Speaker 2: of those guys though that he might let you catch
Speaker 2: the ball, but he's not going to give you any
Speaker 2: run after catch. But there are times where people have
Speaker 2: caught the ball, but he's quick to bring you on
Speaker 2: the onto the ground. So middle of the field, though,
Speaker 2: is his area where he generally operates. And so that's
Speaker 2: where you got to kind of worry about. If you
Speaker 2: know where where those guys are on the field. You know,
Speaker 2: you gotta worry about the these guys jumping routes too. They
Speaker 2: like to if they see like the ball, maybe quarterback
Speaker 2: sets looks back. Next thing you know the quarterbacks, guy's
Speaker 2: eyes on the underneath and they just immediately just drive
Speaker 2: on it. They play with really, really great awareness when
Speaker 2: it comes to this, They're gonna be difficult to deal
Speaker 2: with in that way. The secondary I mentioned they're going
Speaker 2: to play nickel eighty five percent of the time. I
Speaker 2: think this unit really benefits from their front seven because
Speaker 2: again it's another one of those stationary groups. Travarius Ward
Speaker 2: he's going to line up at the left cornerback ninety
Speaker 2: eight percent of the time. So if he lines up
Speaker 2: at left corner, that's going to be your right side
Speaker 2: of the defense. And then Leonore is the other corner
Speaker 2: on the other side. He's going to play that spot
Speaker 2: seventy eight percent of the times. Isaiah Oliver is their nickel.
Speaker 2: He's always in the slot. When they in the first
Speaker 2: two games, they had a guy Abray Thomas was in
Speaker 2: the lineup, but they've gone with this current group of Ward, Leonore,
Speaker 2: and Oliver the last several weeks, and Thomas has played
Speaker 2: a far less. I think if you throw the ball
Speaker 2: at one of these guys, I throw it at Leonore
Speaker 2: is who I would throw it Ceedee Lamb had a
Speaker 2: huge play against him last year on a bit of
Speaker 2: a just a go, just a go route, a vertical
Speaker 2: nine route and Dak They maxed the protection, got the
Speaker 2: ball down the field, Ceedy made the catch. He also
Speaker 2: drew a pass interference call. I don't think Leonor runs
Speaker 2: as well as some of these corners that we've seen
Speaker 2: the Cowboys play. I think he's a better zone player
Speaker 2: than he is a man. The catchup speed there, I
Speaker 2: just don't see. When there's separation, it's a little bit
Speaker 2: of a struggle for him to get back. So taking
Speaker 2: a shot at him, I don't think is a bad option.
Speaker 2: The numbers, the metrics, all those things kind of point
Speaker 2: to that direction too. Teams have had success throwing the
Speaker 2: ball in front of him and they and they've had
Speaker 2: some success throwing the ball behind him a little bit.
Speaker 2: So you know, that's something that the Cowboys kind of
Speaker 2: need to keep an eye. The safeties are really good
Speaker 2: players to Sean Gibbs and then the Funga are two
Speaker 2: really solid players. They Funga is always around the line
Speaker 2: of scrimmage. He's like cursed the way he plays. He's
Speaker 2: going to line up in the box. He's like a linebacker.
Speaker 2: He's kind of a headhunter when it comes to the
Speaker 2: way he plays. If you're one of these guys, you're
Speaker 2: on crossing routes, the stuff underneath neath. If he's in
Speaker 2: that area, he is going to take a shot at you.
Speaker 2: He's going to try and knock that ball loose, and
Speaker 2: he does a really good job of that. Gibson plays
Speaker 2: more coverage. I think Gibson does a really good job
Speaker 2: of reading routes. He puts himself in position in the
Speaker 2: middle of the field. You got Warner and Gibson in
Speaker 2: the middle. That's why teams have struggled a little bit
Speaker 2: to throw the ball inside there because of those two
Speaker 2: guys in the way they play. But there's there's there's
Speaker 2: They do a great job of keeping the ball in
Speaker 2: front of him and then rallying. Both safeties tackle really
Speaker 2: really well. So it's a hard team to move the
Speaker 2: ball on. But in a way, the running aspect of it,
Speaker 2: I think is going to be some of a prompt.
Speaker 2: But if you're going to attack a guy leonor the corner,
Speaker 2: I think would be the guy if they want to
Speaker 2: throw the football, that's the guy that I would go after.
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Speaker 6: topics we're going to hit with regards to this matchup
Speaker 6: Cowboys offense versus forty nine Ers defense.
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Speaker 6: Final segment of The Break Life from SWBC Mortgage Studios
Speaker 6: at the Star. Right before we went to break, Brian
Speaker 6: broke down the Cowboys offense versus of Niners defense.
Speaker 7: No, see in the Break you had.
Speaker 3: Something you wanted to arrive Absolutely just sparting Lenor right,
Speaker 3: Just some science to help support what Brian's excellent scouting
Speaker 3: report was saying about Leonor. He is absolutely the weak spot.
Speaker 3: He's the one that you want to poke with a
Speaker 3: sharp stick. His hawk rate per our good friends at
Speaker 3: next Gen Stats, I mean love them, Yeah, is roughly
Speaker 3: just three percent. That's one of the lowest, one of
Speaker 3: the worst in the league. So he doesn't halk the
Speaker 3: ball very well. Coverage success rate is just around forty
Speaker 3: five percent, so less than half the time when you
Speaker 3: target him he's having success. Those are two of the
Speaker 3: lowest marks of any defensive back in San Francisco. But contrarily,
Speaker 3: when you look at Hufanga, Whufonka hawks the ball at
Speaker 3: a rate of about thirty three percent, so that's hey
Speaker 3: keep an eye on that. But also he has the
Speaker 3: highest covered success rate on the entire team, which is
Speaker 3: roughly sixty seven percent, So.
Speaker 4: It's wildly lopsided.
Speaker 3: Like Brian said, so if you're Mike McCarthy, Brian Schottenheimer,
Speaker 3: Dak Prescott, as long as your front five holds up,
Speaker 3: you need to target leonor early often and for the
Speaker 3: entirety of the game.
Speaker 7: That's a huge if.
Speaker 6: When you say, if you're front five, pretty your job
Speaker 6: holds This is a tough defense. I wanted to go
Speaker 6: back and I was looking at this top the defensive front.
Speaker 6: Their pressure rate is about forty three percent. They get
Speaker 6: pressure almost half the time when they're when they're going
Speaker 6: to get the quarterback they don't blitz much though obviously
Speaker 6: he st Brian On about it over time.
Speaker 7: But what was.
Speaker 6: Interesting to me was Javon Hargrave is actually the person
Speaker 6: that leads the team in quarterback pressures in twenty two Uh.
Speaker 6: He also has three sacks try with tied with Drake
Speaker 6: Jackson for the lead on the team. Talk to me
Speaker 6: about how the interior of this offensive line matches up
Speaker 6: with those two defensive tackles, particularly because it mostly gets.
Speaker 7: A lot of a lot of the press. Hardgraves a problem.
Speaker 2: Yeah. The thing about it is with Hardgrave and the
Speaker 2: Cowboys are familiar with Hargraves game from Philadelphia a little bit,
Speaker 2: you know, and you know, San Francisco goes out, they realize, well, heck,
Speaker 2: we need to maybe shore some things up, you know,
Speaker 2: with help Armstead inside, and they and they really have.
Speaker 2: And the thing that that Armstead is so long and
Speaker 2: strong that he's he doesn't have the explosiveness. So you know,
Speaker 2: if the matchup, the left and right matchup and the
Speaker 2: way they play is going to be critical in this game.
Speaker 2: And the Cowboys, I feel like, are really equipped to
Speaker 2: handle this because Smith last year, well in the playoff game,
Speaker 2: he played tackle so here you have Martin a little
Speaker 2: bit compromised with the thigh or the quad or what
Speaker 2: he's dealing with, maybe a little bit of an ankle,
Speaker 2: but you do have two power players inside that when
Speaker 2: you when I went back and watched that game, it
Speaker 2: wasn't a very good game for the oddish that it
Speaker 2: was a struggle for him in this football game. And yeah,
Speaker 2: because the way these linebackers played, but these defensive tackles
Speaker 2: and Hartgrave is just such an up the field player,
Speaker 2: so you have got to stop him at the point
Speaker 2: you've got. You can't let him get going. And the
Speaker 2: Cowboys are equipped to be able to do that. Is
Speaker 2: last year, like say, Connor McGovern, not probably the best
Speaker 2: situation there. I mean, they moved on from him. He
Speaker 2: was the starter in this game. Wasn't terrible, but he
Speaker 2: wasn't you know. It's not Smith and then also Martin.
Speaker 2: So Dallas is better equipped to handle this will be
Speaker 2: a this will be a difficult matchup for San Francisco
Speaker 2: with really good on good inside. They haven't played anybody
Speaker 2: that's as good as Dallas is in the inside.
Speaker 6: That way, the Rams also regularly what I saw when
Speaker 6: I went back and watched the game against the Rams.
Speaker 6: They would regularly keep six blockers in to be able
Speaker 6: to handle this. I was actually thinking, like, this will
Speaker 6: be a game where I would love to see them
Speaker 6: play a little bit more twelve personnel and try to
Speaker 6: max protective thing to where you can now really try
Speaker 6: to get those receivers out in routes where where maybe
Speaker 6: you can get them freed up to where they are,
Speaker 6: you know, matched up one on one with these corners
Speaker 6: and try to make some plays there.
Speaker 2: I feel that's where they that's where they really they
Speaker 2: have to They have to be almost predetermined where they're
Speaker 2: going to go with the ball, like with the intent
Speaker 2: of may make the forty nine ers have to commit
Speaker 2: resources to going over and helping you know, Dallas needs
Speaker 2: to find ways to win on the outside. Both these
Speaker 2: corners will give up some plays, it just so happens
Speaker 2: that Leonora gives up more. But they benefit so much
Speaker 2: from that front. I mean, okay, it's great to say,
Speaker 2: oh we'll attack the secondary here. Oh yeah, by the way,
Speaker 2: you got to block this front, you know, and sometimes
Speaker 2: you look at it, but the Rams did a good
Speaker 2: job of getting the ball out. I mean it was like,
Speaker 2: you know, Matthew Stafford was not interested in holding that
Speaker 2: ball at all. It was get it out, get it out,
Speaker 2: get it out. And I have a feeling that the
Speaker 2: Cowboys are gonna have to if they're gonna play, if
Speaker 2: they'll play his own coverage against Dak and they'll play
Speaker 2: off like what New England did you know? Run these
Speaker 2: guys off, throw them the ball and go for it.
Speaker 6: I mean, if there ever was a week when you
Speaker 6: want to see this Texas Coast offense that's predicated on
Speaker 6: getting the ball out quick, this is the week to
Speaker 6: do it. This is the week when it should actually
Speaker 6: help you, right.
Speaker 2: I think they're gonna have to be able to run
Speaker 2: the ball a little bit too.
Speaker 4: I know this.
Speaker 2: I would think, oh well, this could this be one
Speaker 2: of those game plans where you like Tampa was a
Speaker 2: couple of years ago where Dak where they played in Tampa,
Speaker 2: not the playoff game, but the one that started the season,
Speaker 2: and they just completely committed to throwing the football. You
Speaker 2: know that's I don't know, could that be, like you said,
Speaker 2: could you just max this thing up and say, you
Speaker 2: know what, our best shot at winning this game will
Speaker 2: be throwing the football. If we can just block this front.
Speaker 8: If you had to summarize.
Speaker 2: And there are pain has to deal with, well, yes.
Speaker 8: But I was the biggest difference between what they're what
Speaker 8: they look like now versus the last time last year
Speaker 8: when or earlier.
Speaker 2: This they rattled. They rattled, I mean and they they
Speaker 2: they took advantage of your offensive line in some spots.
Speaker 2: I mentioned Tyron Smith was not good enough at right tackle.
Speaker 2: He just wasn't that that matchup with him and Bosa,
Speaker 2: Bosa had him on his heels in that game. Usually
Speaker 2: Tyron Smith is base is good, is balance is good,
Speaker 2: body control is good. He was, he was caught. He
Speaker 2: was caught a little bit. I mentioned the center wasn't
Speaker 2: very good. McGovern wasn't great. You know, uh, ty Tyler
Speaker 2: Smith was fine at the at the other tackle spot,
Speaker 2: but they were really lacking. You the forty nine ers said, Okay,
Speaker 2: you're just not good enough at these spots. And they
Speaker 2: they went after that. They and they they did a
Speaker 2: really good job of when you know when the receivers
Speaker 2: you talk about teams, when when they when they able
Speaker 2: to make plays, they tackled really well. That's the thing
Speaker 2: about this defense is it's like the balls there and
Speaker 2: then there's it looks like a big game, Like Zeke
Speaker 2: had a run where it looked like it was going
Speaker 2: to be out the gate and it's like a six
Speaker 2: seven yard run that looked like it could have gone
Speaker 2: for thirty six yards. But you know here's the you know,
Speaker 2: Warner jumps over boom tackle right there came in six
Speaker 2: and you're thinking, wow, that was that could have been
Speaker 2: a huge player right there.
Speaker 7: He had a big day there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's where that's the that's when you have
Speaker 2: to deal with the team. You have to take what
Speaker 2: you can get, but be ready for you're probably going
Speaker 2: to be tackled at the spot. But if you could
Speaker 2: break a tackle or two and make a big play,
Speaker 2: that's what they were able to do against the Patriots.
Speaker 2: I felt like it broke some tackles in the secondary
Speaker 2: and Nebor, you know, Ferguson and Lambing. Those guys able
Speaker 2: to break some tackles and make some bigger gains because
Speaker 2: of that. But I don't know, we'll see how if
Speaker 2: they can get away from this crew.
Speaker 3: I just feel like this is and I've been saying
Speaker 3: it all week to anybody who listen. I just feel
Speaker 3: like this is the Brandon Cooks game. I keep saying,
Speaker 3: I feel like this is the Brandon Cooks game, and
Speaker 3: you know, part of it goes to you know, this
Speaker 3: is the stockedon native, this is his area. He's back
Speaker 3: in his old stumping grounds. He's most comfortable here and
Speaker 3: playing football here out in the Santa Clara area. But
Speaker 3: at the same time, like we've been talking about, we've
Speaker 3: been waiting to see what that package looks like with Cooks,
Speaker 3: and we've not seen it in Week one because they
Speaker 3: didn't have to get unveiled. He missed Week two. Week
Speaker 3: three three offensive linemen out. Mike McCarthy says he overreacts.
Speaker 3: He takes some of the vertical package against the j
Speaker 3: didn't quite need it, but he started to get a
Speaker 3: little more active.
Speaker 4: This is it.
Speaker 3: This is the game that you have to You're probably
Speaker 3: going to have to go deep into your offensive playbook.
Speaker 3: You're gonna have to stretch the field to keep those
Speaker 3: pass pass rushers honest. And then when you look at
Speaker 3: the matchups like Brian was talking about, Yeah, hufang is
Speaker 3: going to be a problem, but you would love to
Speaker 3: believe that Ceede Lambkin can take advantage of that, which
Speaker 3: means Cooks is against Leonore, if Cooks is against Lenoir
Speaker 3: or whomever is against Lenor, but schematically it'll probably be
Speaker 3: Cooks for most of the time. Get him the ball
Speaker 3: in space, let him be effective. Get him the ball
Speaker 3: on vertical routes against a guy who doesn't have a
Speaker 3: good success rate, has one of the worst hawking rates
Speaker 3: in the in the NFL. Take advantage of that. So
Speaker 3: I think this is a Brandon Cooks game.
Speaker 6: One of the things I saw on film with against
Speaker 6: the Rams, and Rams had a lot of success on
Speaker 6: deep crossing routes. If you're trying to stretch the field
Speaker 6: doesn't need to necessarily even be vertical right deep middle
Speaker 6: you can do a lot you can do not even.
Speaker 7: The middle like.
Speaker 2: Cross good for you can do.
Speaker 6: And they actually lost some receivers a couple of times
Speaker 6: in zone coverage when they were sitting them across the field.
Speaker 6: So I would love to see the Cowboys use some
Speaker 6: of that and use Brandon Cooks in that way. He
Speaker 6: has the speed to where he can get open. He
Speaker 6: can make some plays, especially if they're gonna try to
Speaker 6: play him in zone. So I'd love to see some
Speaker 6: of that. Now, this could be a game where they
Speaker 6: could use the skills of Brandon Cooks. All right, we
Speaker 6: appreciate you, guys, Jonas. We're back tomorrow. We'll talk about
Speaker 6: the Cowboys defense versus this Niners offense. You thought it
Speaker 6: was complicated to the man that defense. We'll talk about
Speaker 6: that offense tomorrow.
Speaker 7: We'll be back Dallas.
Speaker 6: Until then, for Brian brought us Patrick Walker, Amber Garcia.
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