1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:02,639 Speaker 1: Welcome to the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast 2 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:06,040 Speaker 1: Day and Paranormal Podcast Network. Now get ready for another 3 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:12,799 Speaker 1: episode of Dark Becomes Light with high Halls. The thoughts 4 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 1: and opinions expressed by the host our thoughts and opinions only, 5 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:19,840 Speaker 1: and do not necessarily reflect those of I Heart Media, 6 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:23,119 Speaker 1: I Heart Radio, Coast to Coast a out, employees of 7 00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:27,640 Speaker 1: premier networks or their sponsors and associates. You are encouraged 8 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 1: to do the proper amount of research yourself, depending on 9 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 1: the subject matter and your needs. You are listening to 10 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 1: Dark Becomes Light with me Heidi Hollis on the I 11 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 1: Heart Radio and Coast to Coast I am Paranormal Podcast Network. 12 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 1: Welcome to my show. Remember each week this is the 13 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:07,959 Speaker 1: place you go to when you want to learn the 14 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:14,119 Speaker 1: latest and big Foot, UFOs, the Boogeyman, shadow people, hat Man, 15 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:16,760 Speaker 1: anything and everything and all the in betweens, and one 16 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 1: of my favorite topics the holy encounters, angelic encounters, near 17 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 1: death experiences. I love all of that and reincarnation as 18 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:28,039 Speaker 1: I actually been picking up on my radar as of late. 19 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 1: So I'm telling you anything that you can imagine. I 20 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:34,840 Speaker 1: like to dive in and ask the questions, talk to 21 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 1: the right researchers and talk to experiencers, because this is 22 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 1: where all of the information comes from, you and me. 23 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:45,840 Speaker 1: So I want to invite you to go to my 24 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 1: main website, which is Heidi Hollis dot com, or for 25 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 1: those of you who do not know how to spell that, 26 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 1: go to shadow folks dot com and you will see 27 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 1: right there where you can share your stories. Tell me 28 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 1: what is going on, tell me what you've experienced, tell 29 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 1: me what your research you've written about, or whatever it 30 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 1: is that comes to mind, and you know, I'll do 31 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 1: my best to give some friendly, on the level advice. 32 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 1: No one has a guru, nobody knows all the answers, 33 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 1: but darn, I've been doing this for a long time, 34 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:18,799 Speaker 1: and I am pretty sure there's been many, many, many, 35 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:22,640 Speaker 1: many many thousands of people, perhaps millions, who have benefited 36 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:27,359 Speaker 1: from taking a listen and trusting the process that sometimes 37 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 1: when we go in the trenches and we dig up 38 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 1: something good and we have the best intentions, that we 39 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 1: are really really really really aiming for good stuff, and 40 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 1: and it's working, it really is. So don't hesitate to 41 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 1: tell me all the details. And you know, I know, 42 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 1: even myself I don't have that person that's right there 43 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 1: that gets all this stuff. Okay, I don't. I don't. 44 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 1: I'm just like you from a human being, and uh, 45 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:56,920 Speaker 1: I looked to my left and looked to my right now, like, 46 00:02:57,040 --> 00:02:59,639 Speaker 1: m gosh, that friend really likes to sleep good at night. 47 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 1: Better not tell them this one what happened um or 48 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 1: or this one over here. They might judge it too much, 49 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:08,359 Speaker 1: so I'll just spare them. I do the same thing. 50 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 1: I'm not kidding you. I do the same thing I 51 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:15,360 Speaker 1: do not. I decipher, let's put it that way. I 52 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 1: decipher who best to chat with at times and if 53 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 1: it's a good time for them. I'm doing pretty good 54 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 1: with this stuff because I've been living and breathing this 55 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:25,639 Speaker 1: for such a long time. But a lot of people 56 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 1: out there are not, and they need that support and 57 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 1: I'm here for that and it and it's therapeutic for 58 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:33,920 Speaker 1: myself too, because I'm like, I've been there. I know 59 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 1: what you're talking about right there, So I'm telling you. 60 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 1: Until we could get those around us to get this, 61 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 1: to understand this and get more comfortable with these topics, 62 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 1: which are really part of the human nature and the 63 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 1: human experience. That's the That's the kicker, isn't it. This 64 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 1: is not new. None of this is new. It's biblical. 65 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 1: It's been around forever, and uh, you know how old 66 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 1: a are? Humans were super duper old. We've been drawing 67 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 1: things on cave walls that kind of explain what's going 68 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 1: on today, haven't we? I mean, my goodness, So what 69 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 1: are we saying? What are we doing? Who knows? But 70 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:16,719 Speaker 1: we have all got to bring this comfort level. It 71 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:20,280 Speaker 1: is up to all of us to get people on board. 72 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:23,159 Speaker 1: And I'm doing it. I'm trying. It's not like I'm 73 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 1: shy and uh still still people around me just don't. 74 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:31,359 Speaker 1: They don't get it, and I understand. Uh. But the 75 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 1: other thing to know, we're not here to cram it 76 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:37,160 Speaker 1: down anybody's throats either, because that pushes people further away. 77 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 1: So just be casual and share about it. You know. 78 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:41,920 Speaker 1: I've gotten to the level where it's like I don't 79 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 1: need to always, but sometimes sometimes I'm like, oh, man, 80 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:52,920 Speaker 1: you know what I just went through? Who doggie? You know? Um? 81 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 1: So it's it could be frustrating because I wish people 82 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 1: got it. I wish they had an open mind enough 83 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 1: to get it. But we don't have these luxuries just yet, 84 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:05,480 Speaker 1: not even me. So I am saying this right now 85 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:09,039 Speaker 1: because I've gotten several people that people chat with me 86 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 1: online all the time and uh and then sometimes they're like, 87 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:14,919 Speaker 1: can I talk to you? I'm like ring and they're like, whoa, 88 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:19,599 Speaker 1: whoa you actually called me. I'm like yeah, I always 89 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 1: tell people I might do it, and I'm available. I'm 90 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 1: not kidding, so I don't be surprised you say I 91 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 1: need help? Can you talk? If I got the time, 92 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 1: I will so. Um. I just I love doing that. 93 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 1: I love being able to be of help and to 94 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 1: be that person because I think it's important. You know, 95 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 1: I don't like to hear or know somebody suffering and 96 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:42,719 Speaker 1: if I can help, I mean, it's just like the 97 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 1: people that see somebody lying in a in a street 98 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 1: or something, A step over them, We're gonna take a 99 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:52,280 Speaker 1: minute help him out. Well, I've got the capabilities, so 100 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 1: I'll do it. So it's it's um, I think it's important. 101 00:05:56,920 --> 00:06:00,919 Speaker 1: So I wanted to tell you guys, guess today is 102 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 1: a special special show, super duper special show. Why is 103 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 1: it a special show? I have Jennifer Marshall of Stranger Things. Yeah, yeah, 104 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 1: she's gonna be on the program today and why because 105 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 1: she is the host. She has her own television program 106 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 1: on the c W called Mysteries Decoded that has already 107 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:31,160 Speaker 1: launched its next season July six. And guess what, you know? 108 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 1: Who me right here? I am featured July upcoming episode. 109 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:42,719 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh yeah, it was a blast. Jennifer is 110 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 1: a sweetheart of a person. Everybody, all the crew absolutely 111 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:51,720 Speaker 1: just just a comfort level that you would not ever 112 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:54,480 Speaker 1: ever think to come across, but I did when I 113 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:58,239 Speaker 1: was fortunate to join them on a very very special 114 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 1: episode that will be chatting on next Oh yeah, I 115 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 1: don't think you're going to be bored with this because 116 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 1: what's the number one show on Netflix? Now? They've got 117 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 1: the record Stranger Things, So yeah, I tapped into that, 118 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 1: but the bigger deal for me for selfish reasons, I'm 119 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 1: just saying Mysteries Decoded, because you know what, getting down 120 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:24,680 Speaker 1: the trenches, getting to the real stories, interviewing the people, 121 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 1: like I just said, this is what makes up these things. 122 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 1: This is what makes these topics of interest fiction or nonfiction, 123 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 1: and the nonfiction is so much more important. You know, 124 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 1: we're borrowing from reality to make up a surreal environment 125 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 1: on these television programs, right, So, hey, I think that 126 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 1: I think you guys are going to really enjoy this conversation. 127 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 1: And there's something I want to talk about actually, Uh 128 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 1: that's regarding Jennifer Marshall and the whole phenomena of the paranormal, 129 00:07:56,160 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 1: the supernatural, ufology, cryptal zoological stuff. Get this. Do you 130 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 1: realize that Jennifer Marshall is the first lady to host 131 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 1: her own paranormal show? She's the first one. Now do 132 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 1: you know, statistically speaking, who who watches these shows? Who 133 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 1: who listens to these types of shows? It's mostly ladies? Mostly? Okay, 134 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 1: we tipped the scales, but she's the first. Did we 135 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 1: just get used to guys doing it? I don't know. 136 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 1: But UM, I know I've been out here for twenty 137 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 1: plus years talking on an official level about these things 138 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 1: that I've done into it even earlier than that. Um 139 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:42,680 Speaker 1: And and it's like, wow, it took all this time. 140 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 1: Now shows are starting to pop up, there's a couple more. Um. 141 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 1: But you know what, it's that we got a long 142 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:51,840 Speaker 1: ways to go, got a long ways to go. And 143 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 1: I think I've shared on here before that and I 144 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:57,319 Speaker 1: had so many producers are just like, Wow, you're amazing. 145 00:08:57,400 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 1: You know so much stuff. This is cool. I'm like, well, 146 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:02,720 Speaker 1: thank you, that's really cool to say that. It's like, 147 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:05,720 Speaker 1: but we can't have a woman lead. Can you teach 148 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 1: a guy everything? You know? Shirt? What excuse me? What 149 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:15,560 Speaker 1: was that? Like? You just don't see that coming. You 150 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 1: don't think of that. I think of knowledge as knowledge, right, 151 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 1: I mean school teachers. So you go, oh, well, sorry, 152 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:25,079 Speaker 1: you know, if it's not a guy teaching, I'm not 153 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 1: going to listen to this one. Wow. It's like this 154 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 1: perceived acceptance level out in the public, like well you know, wow, 155 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:37,840 Speaker 1: this is not believable that a lady could go and 156 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 1: do this, or a lady could go do that or 157 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 1: talk on this subject. Like man, I really I've been 158 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 1: so sadly disappointed with that again and again. But you 159 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:50,679 Speaker 1: know what, we're going to keep kicking down these doors ladies. 160 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 1: Yes we are, Oh yes we are. And Jennifer I 161 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:56,960 Speaker 1: am so proud to say that I got to work 162 00:09:56,960 --> 00:10:01,200 Speaker 1: with her on a program like this and uh just 163 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 1: just mind blowing, just amazing and totally didn't think about barriers, 164 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:09,080 Speaker 1: just kicking it and putting it out there. And we're 165 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 1: going to talk about that today because it's um, it's important. 166 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 1: I think it's important. Guess what I had something really 167 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 1: weird happen I have to share. Okay. So, like I 168 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 1: loved to Facebook live every so often, and it was 169 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:25,160 Speaker 1: the fourth of July. I'm over here in the Midwest, 170 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 1: and uh I was like everything got canceled because there 171 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 1: was a thunderstorm, so we didn't get to see any 172 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 1: fireworks or anything like that. And it's like, oh darn whatever. 173 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 1: You know, we had some good food and everything, and 174 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 1: uh so it's starting to get dark out and I'm like, 175 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:40,320 Speaker 1: I'm wonder if people are going to start shooting out 176 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:44,720 Speaker 1: fireworks or something, you know, from their backyards. And I'm like, dude, 177 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 1: to do do do? I go to step outside. It 178 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 1: is eight thirty pm. Okay, eight thirty pm. It was 179 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 1: dark earlier, of course there was there's storms and all 180 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 1: that stuff coming through. And I look up into the 181 00:10:57,640 --> 00:11:01,439 Speaker 1: night sky and it's not dark out anymore. I understand 182 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 1: where in the middle of summer. Okay, I get that. 183 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 1: But it's like a little past eight thirty pm, and 184 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 1: it looked like it was high noon outside, like the 185 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 1: sun was that high up in the sky. It appeared 186 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:14,959 Speaker 1: to be anyways, I didn't see the sun itself. I'm like, 187 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:19,440 Speaker 1: what the what what is this? You know, I'm like, okay, 188 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 1: I have been here for a bit and i haven't 189 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 1: seen it do this. You know, it's just a weird 190 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 1: glow to It was a weird color. Weird color. Um. 191 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 1: It kind of looked like the upside down, you know 192 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 1: on Stranger Things. I'm like, doo doo, doo doo. So 193 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 1: I'm doing this Facebook, I've talking about it and I'm 194 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 1: not getting you. A handful of people posted, well, hidie, 195 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:41,440 Speaker 1: I know why that's going on because of cern Certain 196 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 1: is being fired up again. I'm like, oh, for those 197 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 1: of you who do not know, Certain is the world's 198 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 1: largest atom smasher. They said they were trying to discover 199 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:54,680 Speaker 1: how the universe was created. You know, I'm sure, but 200 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:58,080 Speaker 1: so it was down for three years. It was paused 201 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 1: for maintenance, right and uh, they said, more recently, this 202 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 1: is this just happened. Actually, uh, they have discovered three 203 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:11,559 Speaker 1: new exotic particles. Exotic what does that mean? It means 204 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:14,680 Speaker 1: something brand new and this is the first time they 205 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 1: are running this just never heard before. At thirteen point 206 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:23,680 Speaker 1: six trillion electron volts. Do you feel me? So they 207 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 1: are essentially this is the worry of people worried that 208 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:30,640 Speaker 1: there's gonna be a tear in our dimension and let 209 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:35,800 Speaker 1: things through like the upside down. Yeah, where are these 210 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 1: concepts again? What was I saying about nonfiction turned into fiction? 211 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:43,680 Speaker 1: Did you see the movie The Missed? That's like always 212 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 1: in the top ten on Netflix as of late. Again, 213 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:50,319 Speaker 1: tearing holes through the fabric of our universe, all the 214 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 1: possibilities people, so much to be had. Well, you guys 215 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 1: are gonna enjoy this. We've got Jennifer Marshall coming up next. 216 00:12:56,960 --> 00:13:00,319 Speaker 1: You are listening to Dark Becomes Light with me Heidi 217 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:03,560 Speaker 1: Hollis on the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast 218 00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 1: a AM Paranormal Podcast Network. Stick around, We'll be right 219 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 1: back with Jennifer Marshall. Welcome back. You are listening to 220 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 1: Dark Becomes Light with me Heidi Hollis on the I 221 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 1: Heart Radio and Coast to Coast ay AM Parormal Podcast Network. 222 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:35,440 Speaker 1: As promised, I have a fabulous guest. I have Jennifer Marshall, 223 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 1: who graduated from high school and left her tiny, one 224 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:42,720 Speaker 1: stoplight town in Colorado to join the military, and she 225 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:46,079 Speaker 1: spent five years in the United States Navy deploying and 226 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 1: support of Operation Iraqi Freedom. Following college, she moved to 227 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 1: Los Angeles and went to school to become a private investigator. 228 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 1: In Jennifer teamed up with upologists Ryan Sprague and headed 229 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:02,600 Speaker 1: to as Well to uncover what really happened in nineteen 230 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:06,840 Speaker 1: That one hour special led to her show on the 231 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 1: c W Mysteries Dcoded, where she has looked into paranormal events, 232 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 1: cryptic encounters, historical mysteries, all with an open mind but 233 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 1: a skeptical lens. Mysteries Dakota can be streamed for free 234 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 1: on the c W Seed app and season two has 235 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 1: begun July six. So I'd like to give a warm 236 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 1: welcome to my new friend, Jennifer Marshall. How are you 237 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 1: doing today there, Jennifer, Heidi, It's so nice to be 238 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 1: with you again. I've missed you. My gosh, oh my goodness, 239 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:39,640 Speaker 1: I've missed you two. Girlfriend. It has been a while 240 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 1: since we first met, and I have to say it 241 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 1: was an absolute pleasure to join you on the set 242 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 1: of your fabulous show, Mysteries Dacoded and uh wow, man, 243 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 1: I'm I'm just so thrilled and excited to see where 244 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 1: it all goes. And and for you, your program, you 245 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 1: came at the at such a different angle than anybody 246 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 1: that I ever knew as a private investigator. Could you 247 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 1: tell us a little bit about that. You know, prior 248 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 1: to hosting Mysteries Decoded, I had very little, if any 249 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:17,480 Speaker 1: information on paranormal activity or or cryptids. You know. I 250 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 1: I was interested in UFOs and and aliens, but I 251 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 1: really had limited knowledge. So coming into the show it 252 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 1: was eye opening. I have learned so much, and I've 253 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 1: got to work with so many amazing people and and 254 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 1: I'm really loving this part of my life that I 255 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 1: did not know existed before. And I'm just thankful that 256 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 1: that you were brought on for an episode and that 257 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 1: we got to work together. We had a blast, and 258 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 1: I think it'll be a really compelling episode. Oh heck yes. 259 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 1: And at the topic that I personally don't get the 260 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 1: opportunity to dive into as much as I would like, cryptids, 261 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 1: And uh, it's a bit different kind of kind of 262 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 1: strikes you very differently when you could actually be met 263 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 1: with something quite physical and and just hit that different 264 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 1: freakish nerve. I mean, I don't know about for you 265 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 1: but that's how I feel about it. For me, it 266 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 1: depends on what we're talking about. But I think overall, 267 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 1: I just enjoy it because the community is so great 268 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 1: and the community is so supportive, and it's just been 269 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:24,560 Speaker 1: really fun digging into these things. And of course I'm 270 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 1: not convinced of everything I'm I'm much more skeptic for 271 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 1: the most part. But there are certain things that you 272 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 1: just can't explain no matter no matter what theories you 273 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 1: know are brought up, it's it's just some of them 274 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 1: who knows right? Very true? Very true? What's really pushed 275 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 1: you closer to this other reality? Like what what was 276 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:50,480 Speaker 1: the hardcore case that you came across that just made 277 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 1: you stop and pause? You know? I think for me 278 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:58,680 Speaker 1: it has to be Bigfoot, And it's just because it 279 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 1: ranges over many generations, so many different cultures. You have 280 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:07,679 Speaker 1: the Yawi in Australia, you have Sasquatch, yetti Um, the 281 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:12,240 Speaker 1: skunky Bigfoot, and it goes back hundreds of years, if 282 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 1: not longer. So for me, although we haven't found any 283 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:18,920 Speaker 1: definitive evidence of a Bigfoot, it's one of those things 284 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 1: where how do you explain all of these sightings and 285 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:26,800 Speaker 1: you know when I interviewed Dr Meldrum on on last 286 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 1: season for the Bigfoot episode, he had casts of prints 287 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:34,280 Speaker 1: and he had for samples that they couldn't determine what 288 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 1: it was. So I think that there's a big possibility 289 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 1: that this could exist. And who are we to say, oh, well, 290 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:44,720 Speaker 1: we know every species that exists. No, we don't have. Hundreds, 291 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:47,200 Speaker 1: if not thousands of new species are discovered all the time. 292 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:50,159 Speaker 1: So UM, I do think that there's a possibility that 293 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 1: something exists and we just don't know what it is. 294 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:56,359 Speaker 1: Oh definitely. Have you ever been in a situation, uh, 295 00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:59,359 Speaker 1: during the show or outside of the show that made 296 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 1: you think twice like why am I here? Am I doing? 297 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:08,399 Speaker 1: More often than not? Um, for the Bigfoot episode, we 298 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:11,760 Speaker 1: had to interview someone who I really just see as 299 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:14,960 Speaker 1: a charlatan and someone who is trying to pull the 300 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 1: wool over our eyes. And I remember saying to my producers, UM, 301 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:24,360 Speaker 1: why why why am I here? Why am I doing this? 302 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:27,760 Speaker 1: And you know, they said, well, will edit it appropriately. 303 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:29,679 Speaker 1: I said, I really just don't want to put this 304 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:32,200 Speaker 1: guy in the spotlight or or give him any credence. 305 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:36,719 Speaker 1: So there definitely our times almost every episode where the 306 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:40,359 Speaker 1: stoic prime an investigator, and me says, come on, what 307 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:45,679 Speaker 1: on earth am I doing? I hear you. You know 308 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 1: it's interesting to me. I mean, you're an investigator and 309 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:55,720 Speaker 1: you go on instinct. Have you ever felt this ominous 310 00:18:55,720 --> 00:19:01,399 Speaker 1: like thing that tells you danger warning, like like run? 311 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 1: I made yes. So there were two times. One was 312 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:10,640 Speaker 1: in the Lizzie Borden house where I really didn't feel 313 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 1: anything until I got in the exact same position that 314 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:16,399 Speaker 1: Lizzie Borden's stepmother was found in when she was killed, 315 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:20,480 Speaker 1: and I definitely felt something. Then they had to edit 316 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 1: out what I said because I actually I said an 317 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 1: expletive and I jumped up, and of course they had 318 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:28,919 Speaker 1: to edit that because it's network TV. But it really 319 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 1: I wouldn't say that it scared me, but it was 320 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:34,480 Speaker 1: definitely jarring. And then there's another episode that I don't 321 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 1: know if it's airing before our episode or after, so 322 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:40,199 Speaker 1: I can't say where it was. But we went to 323 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:44,320 Speaker 1: a notoriously haunted place and there is something about this 324 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:48,679 Speaker 1: place that there's a very weird energy to it. And 325 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:52,199 Speaker 1: I went into it thinking maybe something will happen, maybe not. 326 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 1: This is really hyped up and a lot of things 327 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:58,159 Speaker 1: happened where we were a lot of things that I 328 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:00,720 Speaker 1: tried to explain away and I just can't. And to 329 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:03,439 Speaker 1: be clear, I've been many places that people say are haunted, 330 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 1: and I have not had these experiences in most of 331 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 1: the places, just just a handful. That's interesting. Do you 332 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:11,720 Speaker 1: feel that because you do you go in with a 333 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:16,760 Speaker 1: kind of a skeptical, investigative approach. But I wonder, you know, 334 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:19,360 Speaker 1: some people, it's like when they let the guard down, 335 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:21,919 Speaker 1: it seems like they are more susceptible to having the 336 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 1: more stranger experiences. So I wonder sometimes you know, if 337 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:29,440 Speaker 1: there's such a good defense and such a good wall 338 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 1: up that people don't have some of the more in 339 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 1: depth experiences, even if they're standing right next to you. 340 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 1: I mean, do you think that's a possibility for you? 341 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:40,240 Speaker 1: You know, I don't go into a situation expecting something 342 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:43,480 Speaker 1: to happen, so I definitely you know, if somebody is 343 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:45,640 Speaker 1: a believer and they go in, I just kind of say, okay, 344 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:48,440 Speaker 1: well you're expecting to hear or experience or feel something, 345 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:50,640 Speaker 1: so of course that you did. But I think that 346 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 1: me going in just kind of neutral on the subject, 347 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:58,119 Speaker 1: it makes if there are such things as spirits. To me, 348 00:20:58,200 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 1: if I was a spirit and I had a skeptic 349 00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:02,440 Speaker 1: and front of me, oh my gosh, my energy is 350 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:04,480 Speaker 1: going to be directed toward that person. Let me tell you. 351 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:09,200 Speaker 1: I like that. I convinced, you know, the people who 352 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 1: already believe. So I think that there is something about that. 353 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:14,679 Speaker 1: And it happened in the Lizzie Boarden House, and it 354 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 1: happened in this other location we were in where I 355 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:20,719 Speaker 1: felt like something kind of honed in on me as 356 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 1: much as I didn't want it to and I wasn't 357 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 1: interested in that, that's what happened. Wow, that's amazing. I 358 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:32,160 Speaker 1: had the cameras captured some things that were unexplainable. Yes, 359 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 1: so you know, it's funny. We don't show anything from 360 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 1: behind the scenes. We don't show the crew, but obviously 361 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:41,679 Speaker 1: there's a crew there when we're filming. Um. When we 362 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 1: were in the Lizzie Boarden House, there was a cameraman 363 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:47,720 Speaker 1: who is definitely not a believer. He was just kind 364 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:49,640 Speaker 1: of like, why are we doing this? You know, I'm 365 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:53,640 Speaker 1: here to get my paycheck. And when we left the room, 366 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:55,879 Speaker 1: he had said that here he heard whispering in his 367 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 1: ear and he kept turning around with his head not 368 00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 1: the camera obviously, and nothing was there, So that sort 369 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:06,080 Speaker 1: of stuff. You know, he's not sharing his story publicly 370 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 1: and he's not trying to profit off it or anything. 371 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:10,240 Speaker 1: That was just something that that we talked about in 372 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:14,200 Speaker 1: passing and then in the Other house. Um, I wish 373 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:16,480 Speaker 1: I could talk about this episode. In the other house, 374 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:19,359 Speaker 1: they actually show some behind the scenes stuff because the 375 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 1: cameras are still rolling in between takes, and the cameras 376 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 1: have have definitely, uh caught some things that happened because 377 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:28,440 Speaker 1: we don't we sometimes we'll have to do a few 378 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 1: takes just to get different angles. It's not scripted or 379 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:33,440 Speaker 1: any of that, but um, sometimes they want to get 380 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:35,280 Speaker 1: a close up, sometimes they want to get a far away. 381 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:38,359 Speaker 1: So I'll ask the question several several different times, and 382 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:41,439 Speaker 1: and the cameras picked up some things that we were 383 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:45,119 Speaker 1: not prepared for. I like that answer. We were not 384 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 1: for to prepare for these things. You know, so many 385 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:51,879 Speaker 1: times people are like, how do you go to sleep 386 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:53,960 Speaker 1: at night? I'm like, usually on my left side. I 387 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:57,480 Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, it's like, you know, I think 388 00:22:57,520 --> 00:23:00,119 Speaker 1: there comes a moment for people that do the a 389 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 1: lot where you're just like, you know, this is life. 390 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 1: I mean, do you think you've gotten to that point 391 00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 1: where you're just okay, you know, so this is real? 392 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:12,280 Speaker 1: Or are you still in that wow or I don't know, 393 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:15,439 Speaker 1: how are you taking these things? I am still in 394 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:19,560 Speaker 1: the wow because I and I still struggle with trying 395 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:21,920 Speaker 1: to explain some of the things. You know. I remember 396 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 1: the night that we shot the stuff with Lizzie Borden 397 00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:27,760 Speaker 1: and and all of this crazy stuff happened. I went 398 00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:30,440 Speaker 1: back to my hotel room and I just could not sleep, 399 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:33,919 Speaker 1: and I was trying trying to explain it to myself, 400 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:37,399 Speaker 1: trying to reason to myself. I still think about it, 401 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:39,159 Speaker 1: and we shot Lizzie Borden and I think back in 402 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:45,560 Speaker 1: and we shot the other location back before the pandemic happened, 403 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:47,439 Speaker 1: and I still think about it, i'd say on a 404 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:51,119 Speaker 1: weekly basis. So I'm definitely still, you know, three years, 405 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 1: four years after we started the show, I am still 406 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:56,360 Speaker 1: in the wow phase. And and honestly, I don't know, 407 00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:01,480 Speaker 1: I don't know if that that will change. Wow. Yeah, 408 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 1: I think that's kind of cool to keep that because 409 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 1: then it brings the natural reaction, the natural curiosity, and 410 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:12,639 Speaker 1: the natural uh, investigation going, I mean, what do you 411 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:17,119 Speaker 1: bring to an investigation for yourself? For me, I really 412 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:19,359 Speaker 1: just want to look at physical evidence. And when I 413 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:22,439 Speaker 1: work with people, they'll often say, well, the evidence is 414 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:23,840 Speaker 1: and I said, you know, you have a really low 415 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:27,760 Speaker 1: bar for evidence. That's that's not evidence ideally, you know. 416 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 1: And and additionally people will come in and say, well, 417 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:32,399 Speaker 1: this eye witness said this, and this eye witness said that. 418 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:36,879 Speaker 1: I witnessed accounts notoriously unreliable. So I'm very scientific and 419 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:39,320 Speaker 1: I'm very balanced at the way that I look at things. 420 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:42,800 Speaker 1: And I will never stop trying to think about what 421 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 1: could have happened in the Lizzie Borden house and what 422 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 1: could have happened in the other locations where I've experienced things. 423 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:50,760 Speaker 1: I think I just bring in a healthy skepticism, not 424 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:54,639 Speaker 1: so much to the point where I refuse to to 425 00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:57,360 Speaker 1: entertain the idea that anything else is out there, but 426 00:24:57,359 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 1: but I definitely lean towards skepticism. I get it truly 427 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:04,359 Speaker 1: important to have a nice balance between the two. And 428 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:07,440 Speaker 1: you know, we do. We need a scientific angle, especially 429 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:11,720 Speaker 1: for non experiencers of the strange, because how else will 430 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:14,840 Speaker 1: they be convinced unless there is that hard proof. I mean, 431 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 1: taking another person's word for it doesn't always cut it. 432 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:20,960 Speaker 1: I totally get it. So well, you guys, we are 433 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:23,720 Speaker 1: going to get to our next break. You are listening 434 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:27,040 Speaker 1: to Dark Becomes Light with me Heidi Hollis on the 435 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:32,199 Speaker 1: I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. 436 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:49,960 Speaker 1: To crowd will be right back, welcome back. You are 437 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:53,159 Speaker 1: listening to Dark Becomes Light with me Heidi Hollis on 438 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 1: the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal 439 00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:01,679 Speaker 1: Podcast Network. I have the fabulous and Jennifer Marshall of 440 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 1: Mysteries Decoded, whom I had the pleasure of appearing with 441 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:09,600 Speaker 1: on a cool episode coming up July twenty and her 442 00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:13,440 Speaker 1: show premiered at July six. And you know an interesting 443 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:17,040 Speaker 1: fact something I mentioned in the first segment, Jennifer, you 444 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:21,800 Speaker 1: are the only lady doing what you do, so tell 445 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 1: us about that. I am, and I did not realize 446 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:29,000 Speaker 1: that until um there was an article written and she 447 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:31,600 Speaker 1: asked me, you know how I felt about being the 448 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 1: only woman to host a network show having to do 449 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:39,200 Speaker 1: with paranormal encryptids, and I was kind of appalled. Actually, 450 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:42,480 Speaker 1: I didn't even realize that that I was the only one, 451 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:45,159 Speaker 1: so I'm thankful to be doing it, but it is 452 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:49,080 Speaker 1: very much a male dominated space. Yeah, we've gotta, we've 453 00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:54,399 Speaker 1: gotta flip that script, all right, we gotta. I love it. 454 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:57,520 Speaker 1: And I was like, you know what, so very true, 455 00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:00,879 Speaker 1: and it doesn't make sense because the larger audience are 456 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:03,440 Speaker 1: women who look into these topics, believe it or not. 457 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 1: So it's like, why is it so male dominated? I 458 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:09,760 Speaker 1: have no idea, but I think I had a conversation 459 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:12,040 Speaker 1: with you once where I said, you know, I was 460 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:16,199 Speaker 1: offered like the opportunity to potentially host shows, right, and 461 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:19,040 Speaker 1: they're like, but we can't have a lady as a lead. 462 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:21,480 Speaker 1: You gotta teach a guy everything, you know. I'm like, 463 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:26,440 Speaker 1: what what? Oh? Yeah, I interviewed for for a major 464 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:29,880 Speaker 1: network that shall remain nameless, and the notes I got 465 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:34,040 Speaker 1: back basically, we're you know, we prefer to go with 466 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:36,920 Speaker 1: somebody with a little more gravitas, which means, you know, older, 467 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:40,280 Speaker 1: and most of our audience is male, so we prefer 468 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:42,400 Speaker 1: to go with a mail cool So basically, you want 469 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 1: an old guy, Well that's not me. So that's not me. 470 00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:49,159 Speaker 1: But you beat them out. I mean, you've got an 471 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:52,520 Speaker 1: interesting background, not just being a private investigator, but you 472 00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:56,080 Speaker 1: serve this nation. Thank you very much, the United States Navy, 473 00:27:56,280 --> 00:28:03,320 Speaker 1: So hello, if anybody has some option that would be you, well, 474 00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:06,480 Speaker 1: thank you. It was. It was the best five years 475 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 1: of my life, honestly, and I learned so much about 476 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,560 Speaker 1: myself when I was in the Navy, and I still 477 00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:14,720 Speaker 1: just have such a strong connection to it. You know. 478 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:18,080 Speaker 1: I got out about fifteen years ago and I'm just 479 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:22,359 Speaker 1: still so just in the community with with my veteran 480 00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:25,880 Speaker 1: brothers and sisters, with with service members. It's something that's 481 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:28,679 Speaker 1: ingrained in me and and it's really helped in my 482 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:31,679 Speaker 1: private investigation career because being in the military made me 483 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:35,439 Speaker 1: very squared away. It improved my attention to detail. I 484 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:40,080 Speaker 1: had to multitask, do things quickly and accurately, and and overall, 485 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:42,840 Speaker 1: I would say my time in the military was such 486 00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:46,040 Speaker 1: a positive thing for me. Lifelong friendships is what I 487 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:51,160 Speaker 1: always here. That's uh, that's beautiful. But you also you 488 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:57,080 Speaker 1: give time to encouraging veterans to work in the same 489 00:28:57,120 --> 00:29:01,560 Speaker 1: area as you mm hmmm. So I mentor with a 490 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:05,960 Speaker 1: program called American Corporate Partnerships, and so people coming into 491 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:09,200 Speaker 1: the industry who are new who are veterans. I've mentored 492 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:12,440 Speaker 1: several people through that. I've mentored some other veterans just 493 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:16,000 Speaker 1: starting out their acting career. And now I'm making the 494 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:20,600 Speaker 1: transition from acting and hosting because I I do, I 495 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:24,600 Speaker 1: am an actress outside of Mysteries Decoded. When I'm not 496 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:28,080 Speaker 1: filming Mysteries Decoded, I work on a few other shows. Um, 497 00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:30,800 Speaker 1: you know, I'm making that transition into producing, and so 498 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:34,520 Speaker 1: that is helpful meeting up with other veterans who are 499 00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:37,200 Speaker 1: established producers to kind of help me. So at this 500 00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:40,520 Speaker 1: point I'm a mentee and a mentor and and that's 501 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:43,800 Speaker 1: been a really great experience. And I'm so thankful for 502 00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:46,800 Speaker 1: our community who takes care of each other. That's wonderful. 503 00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:48,920 Speaker 1: I like how you just said some other shows on 504 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:52,000 Speaker 1: the side. Now, when I told my nephews and niece 505 00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:55,960 Speaker 1: about you and what you worked on, they knew exactly 506 00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:59,720 Speaker 1: what I was talking about. Hello, Stranger Things, Susan are 507 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:02,920 Speaker 1: Come on, you give us a little bit about that 508 00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:05,920 Speaker 1: show and how that came about, because that's I mean, 509 00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 1: there's no how to how to show that. I'm aware 510 00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:10,000 Speaker 1: of if that has been a dream come true. You know, 511 00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:12,840 Speaker 1: I had just gotten with my Atlanta agent and she 512 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:15,600 Speaker 1: sent this audition over and there was a photo of 513 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:19,080 Speaker 1: Sadie saying who plays Max, And they said they were 514 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:22,120 Speaker 1: casting for her mom. We look very similar. So I 515 00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:25,440 Speaker 1: knew that I had, you know, kind of a benefit 516 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:27,640 Speaker 1: going into the audition. But my audition had to be 517 00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:30,880 Speaker 1: good obviously to be cast. So I remember, and my 518 00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:34,200 Speaker 1: audition was a lot of um reacting to what was 519 00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:37,680 Speaker 1: going on and and not a lot of speaking. That 520 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:41,240 Speaker 1: is difficult for actors because actors tended what we call 521 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:43,920 Speaker 1: eat up the scenery or try to make it about them, 522 00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:46,719 Speaker 1: and I, you know, I didn't. I just reacted as 523 00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:49,200 Speaker 1: if I would really react if I saw my husband, 524 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:52,800 Speaker 1: you know, beating up my my step son. And I 525 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:54,960 Speaker 1: remember they called and said we want to pin you, 526 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,600 Speaker 1: which basically basically means that they've put it down to 527 00:30:57,680 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 1: one or two people and they're just waiting for the 528 00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:01,720 Speaker 1: new work to approve it. And I got off the 529 00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:04,120 Speaker 1: phone and it was surreal. It was like I was 530 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,280 Speaker 1: outside of my body watching and I was such a 531 00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:08,720 Speaker 1: fan of the show, so to be cast on it 532 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:12,720 Speaker 1: was just wow. And and it's it's been wonderful working 533 00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:15,280 Speaker 1: on the show and watching the kids growing too young adults. 534 00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:18,960 Speaker 1: It's it's been, it's been wonderful. Those are some amazing 535 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:21,800 Speaker 1: young men and women. That is so cool. I mean, 536 00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:24,920 Speaker 1: and and the character that you play. I mean, you're 537 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:29,200 Speaker 1: a strong lady and you pilay an absolute sweetheart on 538 00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:31,280 Speaker 1: the show. And you know, and to be a step 539 00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:34,920 Speaker 1: mom that's a sweetheart. That's that's even rarer. So uh, 540 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:37,160 Speaker 1: you know, kudos to you. You do a great job 541 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:40,920 Speaker 1: on there. Oh. She she's the opposite of me for sure. Um. 542 00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:43,560 Speaker 1: You know, she's she's timid and she's sweet and she 543 00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:48,800 Speaker 1: means well. But Susan's got some problems. Let me tell you. Wow, 544 00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:52,000 Speaker 1: that's that's amazing. I I enjoy the show too. I 545 00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:54,640 Speaker 1: don't think there's any show out there you just say 546 00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:58,040 Speaker 1: stranger things. Everybody, everybody else, everybody knows what that's about. 547 00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:02,240 Speaker 1: It's like, okay, you don't, there's no need to explain, yep. 548 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:04,480 Speaker 1: I I remember I was in Columbia and South America 549 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:06,720 Speaker 1: and we walked by a bus stop and there was 550 00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:09,600 Speaker 1: a huge um, you know, on the on the side 551 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:13,280 Speaker 1: of on the side of the partition, I guess you 552 00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:15,960 Speaker 1: would call it. There was a huge sign for stranger things, 553 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:17,880 Speaker 1: all in Spanish, and I remember taking a picture by 554 00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:22,400 Speaker 1: it just being tickled pink because it really is everywhere Colombia. 555 00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:25,160 Speaker 1: That's amazing. I love that. I mean, it's like a 556 00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:27,760 Speaker 1: kid in the candy shop. I'm I'm positive for you. 557 00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:31,160 Speaker 1: So that's that's so cool to hear. Now, you started 558 00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:34,200 Speaker 1: off with Mysteries Decoded. It was supposed to be a 559 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:37,680 Speaker 1: one hour special, correct, I mean, what, how on earth? 560 00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:42,920 Speaker 1: So with you and Ryan Sprague? Um on Earth? I mean, 561 00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:46,600 Speaker 1: so you guys did this one off and they're like, bingo, 562 00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:49,120 Speaker 1: we want more of this. It was a hit, huh. 563 00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:52,240 Speaker 1: You know it was crazy because I was in talks 564 00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:56,000 Speaker 1: for a show on Bravo that was going to go through. 565 00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:58,240 Speaker 1: So I had my lawyer looking at that contract and 566 00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:01,120 Speaker 1: smoothing everything out, and you know, they called me and said, hey, 567 00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:02,520 Speaker 1: we're gonna do this when I were Special. Do you 568 00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:04,320 Speaker 1: want to do it? And I said yes, And I said, okay, 569 00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:06,360 Speaker 1: come in. We're gonna pitch you to the network. And 570 00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:08,720 Speaker 1: so I went in and then they called me and 571 00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:11,000 Speaker 1: they said, hey, so we're leaving in four days. Do 572 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:13,360 Speaker 1: you want to come with us? And I was like what? 573 00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:18,440 Speaker 1: So I said okay, So I just basically signed a 574 00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:21,720 Speaker 1: contract and I left. I was always interested in knowing 575 00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:24,120 Speaker 1: what happened in Roswell. I never bought that it was 576 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:28,360 Speaker 1: a weather balloon crash, and so four days later we 577 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:31,480 Speaker 1: were in Roswell on the ground, I met Bryan and 578 00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:34,360 Speaker 1: we just started investigating and talking to people and figuring 579 00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:36,520 Speaker 1: out what was going on. So I remember it aired 580 00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:39,320 Speaker 1: in January two thousand nineteen, and I didn't see it 581 00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:41,760 Speaker 1: airing because at the time I was on vacation in 582 00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:44,960 Speaker 1: New Zealand with my family. But the day after it aired, 583 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:48,479 Speaker 1: I started getting all of these messages and comments, and uh, 584 00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:51,760 Speaker 1: shortly after that, the executive producers took me out to 585 00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:53,920 Speaker 1: breakfast and we were just kind of hanging out and 586 00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:56,720 Speaker 1: figuring out what was going on and chatting about our lives, 587 00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:59,080 Speaker 1: and they said, you know, congratulations, this has been picked 588 00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:03,360 Speaker 1: up for a season. And that never happens when you 589 00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:07,360 Speaker 1: shoot something, you know, if it's a pilot, hardly ever 590 00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:10,360 Speaker 1: gets picked up. Um, so that that was amazing, and 591 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:12,080 Speaker 1: then for it to be picked up for season two, 592 00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:15,160 Speaker 1: that's also, you know, it defies the odds. So so 593 00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:18,760 Speaker 1: I've been really, really lucky and really blessed well. I mean, hello, 594 00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:23,399 Speaker 1: you're the new uh X Files lady? Correct? I mean 595 00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:30,680 Speaker 1: he are Scully? Now, I mean what comparison comparison to have? 596 00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:34,520 Speaker 1: I mean, you can't can't be mad about that. But 597 00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:37,320 Speaker 1: all Ryan sent me, Ryan Spreak sent me a photo 598 00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:40,440 Speaker 1: that we had taken and somebody compared it to a 599 00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:44,080 Speaker 1: photo of Molder and Scully. And of course I'm a 600 00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:47,200 Speaker 1: huge X Files fan, so I was just so incredibly 601 00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:50,200 Speaker 1: honored by that. But Jillian Anderson was so great in 602 00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:52,360 Speaker 1: that role. And and it is kind of like the 603 00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:56,080 Speaker 1: real life Molder and Scully. He he believes and I 604 00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:58,840 Speaker 1: you know, I believe in some things, but not to 605 00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:01,640 Speaker 1: the extent that that it does for sure, right, I 606 00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:05,239 Speaker 1: think it's so exciting. And it's like when I think 607 00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:08,360 Speaker 1: of all the different topics that you can explore and 608 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:11,000 Speaker 1: to have the backing that you do and the fans 609 00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:14,480 Speaker 1: that you do that are definitely supporting wherever you go. 610 00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:18,080 Speaker 1: I mean, what's the dream location? Where do you want 611 00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:21,920 Speaker 1: to go? Oh my gosh, there are so many different places. 612 00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:26,080 Speaker 1: Um so for me, what I really want to explore 613 00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:28,239 Speaker 1: more of? And and we do a few episodes every 614 00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:33,760 Speaker 1: season about extraterrestrials or UFOs that to me, we cannot 615 00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:36,680 Speaker 1: be alone in this universe. There are septilian planets, and 616 00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:40,080 Speaker 1: the thought that we are absolutely alone is narcissistic in itself. 617 00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:43,560 Speaker 1: There has to be something else out there. And you know, 618 00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:45,759 Speaker 1: if you look at how the Pyramids were built, you 619 00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:48,560 Speaker 1: look at all these ancient civilizations, I just don't buy 620 00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:52,200 Speaker 1: that that was people rolling rocks up the hill when 621 00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:54,520 Speaker 1: stacking them. For the most part, I just don't. I 622 00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:57,239 Speaker 1: don't buy that. So I think I would love to 623 00:35:57,239 --> 00:36:01,320 Speaker 1: to go to the UK their Rendell Sham incident. Um. Gosh, 624 00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:04,280 Speaker 1: there's just so many stuff I'd I'd love to evaluate 625 00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:08,520 Speaker 1: the naskaal lines in Peru. Um. There are so many 626 00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:13,040 Speaker 1: different things in the world that are just so perplexing. 627 00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:16,800 Speaker 1: So hopefully, uh, this next season we'll do some domestic 628 00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:18,920 Speaker 1: stuff and then maybe they'll open it up to international 629 00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:21,480 Speaker 1: because there are mysteries all over the world for sure. 630 00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:24,479 Speaker 1: Oh gosh. I I was hoping that you would say 631 00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:29,120 Speaker 1: underneath the Sphinx, but you're kind of tall. Um, I 632 00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:32,680 Speaker 1: was like getting underneath there. I mean, there's so much 633 00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:35,120 Speaker 1: to to dig into, and I'm hearing about these new 634 00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:37,640 Speaker 1: findings over there all the time, and I'm like, oh, man, 635 00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:40,720 Speaker 1: just to be a part of that. Yeah, I can't imagine. 636 00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:43,680 Speaker 1: I can't imagine, But I don't blame you. I think 637 00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:48,319 Speaker 1: if there's a fresh crop circle, I would suggest that 638 00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:51,440 Speaker 1: you guys like run and get over there and and 639 00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:56,000 Speaker 1: totally investigate a brand new crop circle. Wouldn't that be fun? Yeah? 640 00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:59,520 Speaker 1: Why not? I'm telling you, I've always thought that would 641 00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:01,920 Speaker 1: be cool to uh, you know, as so you know, 642 00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:05,120 Speaker 1: nobody's walked on it. It is to totally put it 643 00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:07,839 Speaker 1: through the whole filter of what needs to be done 644 00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:11,040 Speaker 1: to better understand what's going on, and not seeing evidence 645 00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:14,960 Speaker 1: of a plank and rope, you know, and and stuff 646 00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:18,919 Speaker 1: like that like crop circles and cattle mutilations. I don't 647 00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:21,920 Speaker 1: know what nonbelievers think. They just think that it's some 648 00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:26,319 Speaker 1: sort of coincident, mass coincidence. I don't know. I can't 649 00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:29,120 Speaker 1: explain them myself, but I certainly don't think that that 650 00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:31,080 Speaker 1: those sort of things are normal or they just happen. 651 00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:35,760 Speaker 1: The word I really can't stand here is mass hallucination. 652 00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:38,960 Speaker 1: That one gets dubbed onto shadow people and hat man 653 00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:42,239 Speaker 1: all the time. So it's just a personal that just 654 00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:45,840 Speaker 1: makes my stomach roll. Um. So anyways, you guys, we 655 00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:48,399 Speaker 1: are going to get to our next break. You gotta 656 00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:51,920 Speaker 1: stick around though, because there is more of Mysteries Decoded 657 00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:55,839 Speaker 1: with Jennifer Marshall. You are listening to Dark Becomes Light 658 00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:59,719 Speaker 1: with me Heidi Hollis on the I Heart Radio and 659 00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:04,200 Speaker 1: Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. Think about We'll 660 00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:23,360 Speaker 1: be right back. Yeah, welcome back. You are listening to 661 00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:26,799 Speaker 1: Dark Becomes Light with me Heidi Hollis on the I 662 00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:32,000 Speaker 1: Heart Radio and Coast to Coast a m paraormal podcast Network. 663 00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:35,759 Speaker 1: I have the awesome Jennifer Marshall here, who I was 664 00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:39,759 Speaker 1: thrilled to get the opportunity to co host with on 665 00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:43,640 Speaker 1: her show Mysteries to Codd and what can we say 666 00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:47,799 Speaker 1: about this episode, Jennifer is what that it was a 667 00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:52,360 Speaker 1: hairy situation, was it not? You know, this episode is 668 00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:56,800 Speaker 1: really interesting because we look at the existence of werewolves 669 00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:59,640 Speaker 1: or what they call a dog man. And I have 670 00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:02,600 Speaker 1: to tell you, when you first contacted me about it, 671 00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:06,480 Speaker 1: I thought there cannot be a chance that anything like 672 00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:09,920 Speaker 1: this exists, and I was kind of hesitant to to 673 00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:12,480 Speaker 1: look into it. But the one thing I really liked 674 00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:16,480 Speaker 1: about our investigation is I was able to introduce some 675 00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:20,279 Speaker 1: scientific concepts into it. We have some audio recordings, we 676 00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:23,840 Speaker 1: speak to a biologist, uh, and we even have some 677 00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:26,480 Speaker 1: some eyewitness accounts, but what we do with the eyewitness 678 00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:28,279 Speaker 1: of accounts is is a little different than what we 679 00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:31,279 Speaker 1: normally do. So all in all, I'm very happy with 680 00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:34,440 Speaker 1: how the investigation went, and and I think it was 681 00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:39,600 Speaker 1: enlightening to put it to put it away, really honestly, 682 00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:44,040 Speaker 1: probably the stranger things that I have speaking of stranger things, 683 00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:48,080 Speaker 1: stranger things that I have experienced in my life was 684 00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:53,000 Speaker 1: encountering something like that. So you know, I understand ghosts. 685 00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:56,040 Speaker 1: I understand you know, I should say, on a wider scale, 686 00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:58,799 Speaker 1: I think a lot of people understand what a ghost is, 687 00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:01,640 Speaker 1: a lot of people understand what aliens are. But then 688 00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:05,560 Speaker 1: you throw a hairy beast that you know you saw, 689 00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:09,600 Speaker 1: and it's hard to filter the and and it even 690 00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:13,120 Speaker 1: explained it to people within the paranormal field. It is 691 00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:16,359 Speaker 1: such a challenge. So it was it was really neat 692 00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:19,480 Speaker 1: for me personally to be able to um, you know, 693 00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:22,600 Speaker 1: dig even deeper with somebody like yourself on my side, 694 00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:26,000 Speaker 1: because it was Wow, it was quite an adventure and 695 00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:29,440 Speaker 1: to get some of the hardcore evidence and in your perspective, 696 00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:33,400 Speaker 1: is so appreciated and so needed. So UM, I enjoyed 697 00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:37,600 Speaker 1: myself greatly. So I appreciate that time. It was so great. 698 00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:41,040 Speaker 1: And the eyewitness that we got to speak to, you know, 699 00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:43,000 Speaker 1: I'm not going to ruin it for the listener, but 700 00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:47,000 Speaker 1: he was so adamant and and just watching him and 701 00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:50,799 Speaker 1: listening to his story. I still remember it to this day, 702 00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:55,200 Speaker 1: you know. And we we did the investigation, uh you know, 703 00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:58,839 Speaker 1: I want to say eight nine, ten months ago and uh, 704 00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:03,080 Speaker 1: I still remember, yeah, everything that and it was the 705 00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:09,640 Speaker 1: picture that he painted was so detailed. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 706 00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:12,680 Speaker 1: My my heart went out to him and uh and 707 00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:15,240 Speaker 1: being able to relate and and having such an interest, 708 00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:17,759 Speaker 1: I mean, it's just wow. You guys got to really 709 00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:20,400 Speaker 1: check it out. I'm I'm excited to see, you know, 710 00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:24,520 Speaker 1: how they break it all down to show what we witnessed. Um, 711 00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:29,399 Speaker 1: So I'm excited. Um yeah. But because people don't understand. Um, 712 00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:32,320 Speaker 1: sometimes I'll get comments I live tweet throughout all the shows, 713 00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:35,000 Speaker 1: and sometimes I'll get comments of you, you guys didn't 714 00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:38,320 Speaker 1: look into this or that or this. What we actually 715 00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:40,680 Speaker 1: do is days and days and days, weeks and weeks 716 00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:44,759 Speaker 1: and weeks, months and months and months of research, um, filming, interviews, 717 00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:47,120 Speaker 1: reaching out to people, so to have that condensed in 718 00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:50,760 Speaker 1: forty one minutes and fifteen seconds. There is a lot 719 00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:53,960 Speaker 1: that we looked into, but it just doesn't make the episode. 720 00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:57,000 Speaker 1: So if you're watching and you think, well, why didn't 721 00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:59,799 Speaker 1: they discuss this most of the time, we probably did, 722 00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:02,960 Speaker 1: but it just didn't make the cut because it didn't 723 00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:07,920 Speaker 1: go anywhere right right exactly? Yeah, and yeah, definitely, And um, 724 00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:10,640 Speaker 1: you know it was nate having the kind of team 725 00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:13,680 Speaker 1: and the backing and the support and the perspectives and 726 00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:17,120 Speaker 1: so much, uh, pulling this together with you was just 727 00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:21,200 Speaker 1: it was quite quite unique and um, an adventure I 728 00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:23,919 Speaker 1: hope to have again at some point. Um, we'll see. 729 00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:27,160 Speaker 1: I had a blast. Yeah, truly truly a lot of 730 00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:30,960 Speaker 1: people like myself, we get into these things because we've 731 00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:35,320 Speaker 1: had personal experiences, We've had something that shook up our reality, 732 00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:38,960 Speaker 1: and uh, it drives us. It drives us to to 733 00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:42,399 Speaker 1: keep looking for answers, and I honestly don't know how 734 00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:46,560 Speaker 1: to stop because it is so intriguing and it is 735 00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:50,319 Speaker 1: so cool, and I can't help but to wonder and 736 00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:52,640 Speaker 1: I always like to ask this question anybody have come 737 00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:55,440 Speaker 1: on this show, is has there been anything that you 738 00:42:55,600 --> 00:43:00,640 Speaker 1: personally experience that has kept your interest in these things? 739 00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:05,680 Speaker 1: I think for me, I come at it from a 740 00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:10,000 Speaker 1: totally different angle. The reason I was interested when they 741 00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:11,960 Speaker 1: said that the show was ordered to series, I was 742 00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:16,440 Speaker 1: interested in continuing because in the line of work that 743 00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:18,720 Speaker 1: I'm in, both lines of work that I'm in, private 744 00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:24,759 Speaker 1: investigation and acting, ideal with con artists, ideal with Charlatan's 745 00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:29,480 Speaker 1: ideal with liars, ideal with chameleons, who will show you 746 00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:32,839 Speaker 1: who they think you want them to be. So for me, 747 00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:36,120 Speaker 1: I was so drawn to it because I thought a 748 00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:40,680 Speaker 1: lot of these people have to be lying, fibbing, miss 749 00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:45,520 Speaker 1: construing their searching fame. They're searching fortune, and a lot 750 00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:50,000 Speaker 1: less people than what I originally believed, are doing that. 751 00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:52,720 Speaker 1: That's not to say that the paranormal or crypted space 752 00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:56,440 Speaker 1: has no one who's simply making up things, but there 753 00:43:56,480 --> 00:44:02,000 Speaker 1: have been some really compelling just recollections of what people 754 00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:06,239 Speaker 1: experienced and to them it is very real. Now whether 755 00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:09,520 Speaker 1: or not there's any physical basis and reality, I can't 756 00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:11,680 Speaker 1: judge that because I wasn't there at the particular time, 757 00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:15,200 Speaker 1: but to them it's very real. So that is what 758 00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:19,720 Speaker 1: has kept me going, is are are these things possibly true? 759 00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:23,400 Speaker 1: Is there possibly such thing as this scrypted that crypted 760 00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:26,480 Speaker 1: this experience? And just wanting to know more and learning 761 00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:31,480 Speaker 1: more has really kept me interested in in this area. 762 00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:33,720 Speaker 1: I love it. And you know, I always tell people 763 00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:36,719 Speaker 1: it's like, ah, you know, they skeptics. I can't stand that. 764 00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:40,239 Speaker 1: You know, I'm like, hold on, we need that perspective 765 00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:43,600 Speaker 1: because if we're just like spoon fading it to the world, 766 00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:46,080 Speaker 1: how is that? How do you how do you get 767 00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:48,720 Speaker 1: those questions asked? And you know, you need that person 768 00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:51,719 Speaker 1: on the spot to kind of represent that opposing view. 769 00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:56,719 Speaker 1: We really need that. Um, So I appreciate your perspective 770 00:44:56,760 --> 00:45:00,439 Speaker 1: that way. It was funny because I do get some 771 00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:04,319 Speaker 1: negative reviews, some from some really hardcore skeptics who say 772 00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:07,760 Speaker 1: you're not skeptical enough. But someone sent me this review 773 00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:09,960 Speaker 1: and and I don't know where it was posted, but 774 00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:13,440 Speaker 1: it made me giggle because somebody said Jennifer Marshall is 775 00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:16,080 Speaker 1: a fud, a fraud and a fake, and so I 776 00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:18,560 Speaker 1: thought they were going to say that I wasn't skeptical enough. 777 00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:22,399 Speaker 1: So I started reading the review and it said she's 778 00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:25,880 Speaker 1: obviously a plant for the US government because there's things 779 00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:29,200 Speaker 1: that go on and she's denying the existence of them. 780 00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:36,040 Speaker 1: So wow, what a perspective. Um, the criticism has been scant. 781 00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:40,440 Speaker 1: I would say, you know, it is good, but you know, 782 00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:44,359 Speaker 1: five you get either the hardcore skeptics or the guy 783 00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:46,000 Speaker 1: that thinks on the plants of the U. S. Government, 784 00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:50,440 Speaker 1: So you can't win. That's hilarious. I could vouch for you. 785 00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:54,160 Speaker 1: You're a real person. You really are doing and putting 786 00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:58,120 Speaker 1: your thoughts and actions in the show. I mean it 787 00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:00,719 Speaker 1: is uh, I mean it is what it is. I mean, 788 00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:04,160 Speaker 1: this is this is you and this is really your 789 00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:08,200 Speaker 1: license as an investigator on the spot too. And I 790 00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:11,919 Speaker 1: am not a plant. You're not a plant. You're very tall, um, 791 00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:17,680 Speaker 1: but you're not a plant for the government. Um. That's hilarious. Wow, 792 00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:19,960 Speaker 1: the things that people come up with. That was a 793 00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:23,600 Speaker 1: good one though at least Um, Yeah, that was your nee. 794 00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:27,920 Speaker 1: It gave me a chuckle for sure. My goodness. But 795 00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:30,439 Speaker 1: you know what, I like hearing that for the most part, 796 00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:33,680 Speaker 1: people have been positive that the world has opened up 797 00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:37,840 Speaker 1: to the possibilities of these things. So how has it 798 00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:41,880 Speaker 1: been explaining to your family exactly what you're doing on 799 00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:47,480 Speaker 1: that show. Though you know my family, UM, they love it. 800 00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:50,120 Speaker 1: They enjoy it. My kids love watching it. My kids 801 00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:51,799 Speaker 1: always get a present when I go out of town 802 00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:56,480 Speaker 1: to go on an investigation, so they're happy with it. However, UM, 803 00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:58,880 Speaker 1: the hardest part has been explaining it to my fellow 804 00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:03,320 Speaker 1: private investigators. I got a lot of heat early on. Um, 805 00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:05,799 Speaker 1: you know, how could you be doing this? You're making 806 00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:09,200 Speaker 1: a mockery of the profession. And then once the episodes 807 00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:12,920 Speaker 1: started airing, because I didn't tell anyone necessarily what I 808 00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:14,680 Speaker 1: was doing, it was just other p I s would 809 00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:16,400 Speaker 1: call me and say, hey, can you take this case? 810 00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:18,759 Speaker 1: Can you work on this? I referred this to you, 811 00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:20,719 Speaker 1: and I just said, I'm not available. I'm shooting a 812 00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:23,280 Speaker 1: show and I'm out of town. So once they actually 813 00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:26,080 Speaker 1: started watching it, and they just weren't relying on on 814 00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:30,280 Speaker 1: you know, the small clips that were out there, they 815 00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:32,600 Speaker 1: most of them chilled out a lot. But I know 816 00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:35,120 Speaker 1: in the beginning, people thought that I was going to 817 00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:39,040 Speaker 1: go in there, and uh, I don't know what they 818 00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:41,080 Speaker 1: thought I was going to be doing, you know, faking 819 00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:44,120 Speaker 1: a show or running around in the forest. And a 820 00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:48,440 Speaker 1: bigfoot costume. I don't know, but that was hard explaining 821 00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:50,360 Speaker 1: it to them. And I think now the first season 822 00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:53,040 Speaker 1: is aired, Um, most of them are on board. Well 823 00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:56,440 Speaker 1: that's awesome. You know, how can people tune into this show? 824 00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:02,200 Speaker 1: So Mysteries Decoded air on the c W and it's 825 00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:06,640 Speaker 1: also available back episodes on c W CD, S E 826 00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:09,719 Speaker 1: E D which is the c W S app. You 827 00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:12,560 Speaker 1: can download those on stream those for free. Um. You 828 00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:15,320 Speaker 1: can catch up with me at Jennifer Marshall dot com 829 00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:21,239 Speaker 1: or socials love social media, uh Instagram Jen thirteen Gen thirteen, 830 00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:24,439 Speaker 1: that's Jen with two ends. And I love chatting with people. 831 00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:27,560 Speaker 1: I love getting to know people, and for me, social 832 00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:30,080 Speaker 1: media has a lot of you know, drawbacks, but it's 833 00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:32,719 Speaker 1: also great to connect with like minded people all over 834 00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:35,880 Speaker 1: the globe, truly, truly, well, well, you know, it was 835 00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:38,799 Speaker 1: an absolute again on or to be able to co 836 00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:41,200 Speaker 1: host with you on your fabulous show. I hope there 837 00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:44,839 Speaker 1: are many many more seasons to come. And uh yeah, 838 00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:46,759 Speaker 1: I mean, thank you so much for coming on the 839 00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:49,759 Speaker 1: program today. Oh, thank you, Heidi, and thank you for 840 00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:52,960 Speaker 1: bringing your expertise in your experience to the episode. I 841 00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:55,640 Speaker 1: am so thankful that that we have the chance to 842 00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:57,480 Speaker 1: work together and I can't wait to do it again. 843 00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:01,239 Speaker 1: Thank you so much and a ancestor, I hope to 844 00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:05,640 Speaker 1: be joining you again soon. Wow, you guys, don't forget July, 845 00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:09,719 Speaker 1: my episode will air and every Wednesday go to the 846 00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:12,920 Speaker 1: c W or the c W ced app and watch 847 00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:17,120 Speaker 1: Mysteries Decoded with my friend Jennifer Marshall. And I want 848 00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:20,360 Speaker 1: to remind you guys, don't forget. Go to Heidi Hollis 849 00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:24,520 Speaker 1: dot com and the Outlanders Comic dot com and follow 850 00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:27,759 Speaker 1: me on social media at one Heidi Hollis, but a 851 00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:30,880 Speaker 1: one in front of that, and uh, keep in touch. 852 00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:33,719 Speaker 1: Tell me what's going on, go to my site, tell 853 00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:36,399 Speaker 1: me what you're experiencing out there, what your questions are, 854 00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:38,960 Speaker 1: who you'd like to have on this program, what topics 855 00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:41,640 Speaker 1: you want me to explore, And I shall dive right 856 00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:45,600 Speaker 1: in because that's what this program is all about. Wow, 857 00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:50,200 Speaker 1: we have been having a juicy conversation today and I'm hoping, 858 00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:55,320 Speaker 1: hoping the pattern continues with more ladies taking the lead 859 00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:59,919 Speaker 1: in the paranormal. Yes, we are out there, we exist. 860 00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:02,960 Speaker 1: I think the entertainment world needs to catch up that 861 00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:06,960 Speaker 1: where where we know stuff and we can express it, 862 00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:09,719 Speaker 1: and we can write about it, and up we'll keep 863 00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:12,839 Speaker 1: talking about it. All right, my friends, you have been 864 00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:16,279 Speaker 1: listening to Dark Becomes Light with me Heidi Hollis on 865 00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:20,120 Speaker 1: the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast a AM 866 00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:37,439 Speaker 1: Paranormal podcast Network. We will see you next time. Stay safe, everybody, goodbye. Well, 867 00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:40,439 Speaker 1: if you liked this edition of Dark Becomes Light, wait 868 00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:43,000 Speaker 1: till you hear the next one. You've been listening to 869 00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:46,840 Speaker 1: the I Heart Radio and Coast Coast AM Paranormal Podcast 870 00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:47,320 Speaker 1: Network