1 00:00:00,880 --> 00:00:02,559 Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. 2 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 2: Disgusting, Diddy's victim cries between sobs on the stand, I 3 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 2: am not a porn star, I am not an animal. 4 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 1: I'm Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories, and I want 5 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:23,840 Speaker 1: to thank you for being with us. 6 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 3: He's not used to being told no, and. 7 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 2: He throws a major tantrum because he can. 8 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:34,560 Speaker 4: I've seen him get so angry that he looks like 9 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 4: he's about to pass out. 10 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:38,560 Speaker 3: The veins in his neck are pop into. 11 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:41,280 Speaker 2: The kickings, the beatings, the draggings. 12 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:45,519 Speaker 3: He just can't believe that somebody says no to him. 13 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 3: He can't believe it. 14 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:51,199 Speaker 2: In the last hours, the trial judge shoots down the 15 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 2: music mogul's last most recent request for a mistrial. Don't 16 00:00:56,960 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 2: you know he's having a Diddy fit right now? That 17 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 2: heartbreaking testimony pourse from the witness stand as Jane not 18 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 2: her real name, declares I Am not an animal. After 19 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:23,959 Speaker 2: heartbreaking testimony, beatings about doors being broken down, draggings, druggings, 20 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 2: marathon sex sessions lasting up to eighteen hours and longer, 21 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 2: where she actually felt she was nothing more than an animal, 22 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 2: straight out to the Monahan Federal Courthouse, standing by special guest, 23 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 2: Tisa tells investigator, host of Tisa Tales on YouTube, Tisa, 24 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 2: thank you for being with us. You know, the way 25 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 2: you described this witness on the stand as a baby 26 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 2: bunny getting tortured has really stuck in my head. 27 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 5: What happened today today? What happened was there was shock. 28 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 5: We knew that the defense was coming in for the cross. 29 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 6: Okay. 30 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 5: However, there was a little commotion before then, as you mentioned, 31 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 5: the motion for Mishawe was denied. However, there is an 32 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 5: issue with Durer number six. Okay, the defense loft that 33 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:22,919 Speaker 5: slipped out when they were busy arguing with the judge. 34 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 5: The prosecution wants during number six. It looks like stricken 35 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 5: the defense wants them in. 36 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:29,919 Speaker 6: Today. Jane dol took the stand. 37 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:33,520 Speaker 5: And she still had that soft, sweet caramel voice. She 38 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 5: still had a very like, genuine feminine demeanor. However, she 39 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 5: stood her ground with the defense as they tried to 40 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 5: move forward with this narrative of. 41 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 6: You're a grown woman and you make grown choices. 42 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 5: They started early on asking her you like that, you 43 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 5: enjoyed that right, he treated you good, and she really 44 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 5: did a great job of pushing back and saying, wait 45 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 5: a second No at the. 46 00:02:57,080 --> 00:03:00,240 Speaker 7: Time, But now that I've had time, well to in 47 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 7: her voice, Now that I have time, I really thought 48 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:05,919 Speaker 7: about it, and I realized that's not what I wanted, 49 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:08,639 Speaker 7: and that's not what I wanted, and I really feel 50 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 7: a lot of resentment, you know, resentment. 51 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 5: Toward him that he took me down this road, down 52 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 5: this road of debauchery with the drugs and introduced me 53 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 5: to this lifestyle that I really really hate it. So again, 54 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 5: it's early on in the cross examination, and already this 55 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 5: little bunny rabbit has a little steel and she's pushing 56 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 5: back on the narrative that the defense is trying. 57 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 2: To posh any idea tasted tales why the state wants 58 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 2: to juror number six thrown off. 59 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 5: I mean, I've been in the court room and I 60 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 5: can only guess. But if I had to guess, dur 61 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 5: number six for what I can there's been a lot of. 62 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 6: Uh, there's been a little camaraderie between. 63 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 5: The jurors that I think the judge did a good 64 00:03:57,840 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 5: job of shutting down. 65 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 6: But from my impression, has shown a few issues. 66 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 5: Okay, there might have been issues with my not being 67 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 5: fully engaged, issues with passing notes back and forth issues 68 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 5: with maybe the facial expressions. Again, it's not just during 69 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:18,480 Speaker 5: number six. We've seen this in the jury I think 70 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 5: the New York Times even wrote a letter about that. 71 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 5: I did a live the first time. I kind of 72 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 5: rang the alarm bell. But I gotta be honest with you, 73 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 5: this is a guessing game. 74 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:30,600 Speaker 6: As to what's going on. Everybody in the. 75 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 5: Courtroom is wondering what is going on. The court is 76 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 5: keeping it under lock and seal, but it is something heavy, 77 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 5: and it leads me to believe that it's something pro 78 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:41,840 Speaker 5: Diddy because the defense is like, hey, we're fine for 79 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 5: them to stay in. 80 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:45,280 Speaker 6: It's the prosecution. It's like, no, you're honor. We need 81 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:49,799 Speaker 6: to review transcripts. We need to review transcripts. 82 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 5: Because you know, there's cameras all over the court, not 83 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 5: just for what is being said in a jury box, 84 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:56,599 Speaker 5: but also and they can even catch whispers since over 85 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 5: the jury box, where the public sits, where the press sits. 86 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 5: So they want to actually review transcripts and then they're 87 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:04,720 Speaker 5: going to write a letter to the court. 88 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:08,480 Speaker 6: But again, everybody is really taken back and wondering what's 89 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 6: going on. But as soon as I hear more, you 90 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:11,920 Speaker 6: will be the first to hear. 91 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 2: You know, Tisa tails joining us from outside the Monahan 92 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:17,720 Speaker 2: Federal Courthouse in Manhattan, where Shawn Cobs is facing a 93 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 2: multi count federal indictment, including rico and sex trafficking charges. 94 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:24,920 Speaker 1: Tisa, I find it to. 95 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:28,840 Speaker 2: Be more than a coincidence that Shawn Combs has just 96 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 2: been rebuked by the judge for communicating with the jury 97 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:38,160 Speaker 2: and now the state wants a particular juror thrown off 98 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:41,480 Speaker 2: the case. This is a big deal in the legal 99 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 2: world for a GURR to be thrown off. And I 100 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 2: want to get back to the importance of Jane not 101 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 2: her real name testimony, but this is important. Something has 102 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 2: happened that's significant that it's critically enough for the state 103 00:05:56,400 --> 00:06:02,039 Speaker 2: to want a GURR removed following on the heels of 104 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:06,160 Speaker 2: Seawn Cohm's being rebuked and threatened to be thrown out 105 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:10,599 Speaker 2: a court for communicating with the jury. From what you 106 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 2: can tell, has he been communicating with even if nonverbally? 107 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 1: You're number six, I think. 108 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 5: And this is my opinion from what I've observed from 109 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 5: his body language, I think there's a real case to 110 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 5: be made that he has. 111 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:25,920 Speaker 6: Been communicating nonverbally. 112 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 5: I don't think not just with jural number six. 113 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 6: I think with all the jurors. 114 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 5: Now, why did they particularly focus on jural number six? 115 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:38,359 Speaker 6: Again, people have said things, you know in the juris selection. 116 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:42,039 Speaker 5: Information was given, things that they do with their home, 117 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:43,599 Speaker 5: things around them was giving. 118 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 6: It has been the whole jury that was the issue. 119 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 5: De nodding, the head, waiting, the silent as the prosecution 120 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 5: could describe the silent communication during number six. 121 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 6: I will say in the. 122 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 5: Testimony with prior victims Mia, especially a little bit with Cassie, 123 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:07,919 Speaker 5: there was definitely some type of second skepticism that from 124 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 5: the first row I could see that actually spilled out 125 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 5: into the second row. 126 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 6: Again, I agree with you, this is a huge deal. 127 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 5: But again the issue is what specifically put during number 128 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 5: sixual the edge that we could maybe make a case 129 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 5: that the first roles one and two, certain jurors were 130 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 5: actually doing the same thing. 131 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 6: So again it makes you wonder, did that. 132 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 5: Silent communication turn into something more tangent? Did he is 133 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 5: in jail for doing the unthinkable and by will things 134 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 5: that we can say that the average person would say 135 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 5: is not only unthinkable. 136 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 6: It's just not smart. So because he is currently locked 137 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 6: up in the NBC for that. On Diddy's side, I 138 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 6: want to under. 139 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 5: Believe that if the past can show you what the 140 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 5: president and the future will hold, this is not. 141 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 6: Out of his range of tools he would use. 142 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 5: However, I find it so hard to think that a 143 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 5: juror would actually take that step and do something that 144 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 5: could jeopardize the trial, jeopardize their freedom, and just jeopardize 145 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 5: the sanctity of bes D And why again we are 146 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 5: locked in again? But what is that extra step that 147 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 5: had for prosecution so worried and concerned. 148 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 2: Straight out to Lauren Conlin, investigative reporter, star of Pop 149 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 2: Crime TV, joining us also at the courthouse. Lauren Conlin 150 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 2: Jane not her real names testimony is critical for so 151 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 2: many reasons, not stand alone, but because it bolsters Cassie 152 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 2: Ventura's testimony. 153 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:37,440 Speaker 1: As a matter of. 154 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 2: Fact, Jane testifies to being with Sean Combs when the 155 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 2: CNN video of the Intercontinental Hotel beat down goes to air. 156 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 8: What happened, particularly about the CNN video of Sean Colmes 157 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 8: beating up Cassie and the fact that Jane was there 158 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 8: when he found out. She describes that they were sleeping 159 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 8: in bed one of his sons came knocking on the 160 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:04,679 Speaker 8: door to tell him this, and he pretty much spent 161 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 8: the entire day with family and friends in kind of 162 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 8: a huddle figuring out what to do. And Jane describes 163 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:14,720 Speaker 8: being at the breakfast table. She was about to eat 164 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:17,559 Speaker 8: breakfast and then she saw the video on the news 165 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:21,839 Speaker 8: herself and she lost her appetite. She also describes kind 166 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 8: of being in a part of that huddle towards the 167 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:28,680 Speaker 8: end of the day when Seawan Colmes was trying to 168 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 8: figure out this apology and what he would say. 169 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 1: Back to Tisa. 170 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:35,840 Speaker 2: Tales also joining us at the courthouse, Tisa that apology 171 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:40,959 Speaker 2: video that Jane was there when Comes brings in the 172 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:44,839 Speaker 2: family advisors her. They talked to a lawyer about doing 173 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 2: the apology video, and it seems as if Seawan Colmes 174 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 2: was instructed not to use Cassie's name, and I think 175 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:56,679 Speaker 2: I know why because it would be somewhat of an admission. 176 00:09:57,480 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 2: So tell me about Jane's test cnemony about her helping 177 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 2: construct that apology video that Shawn Seawn Comes disseminated on 178 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 2: social Now. 179 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:09,720 Speaker 5: One of the most shocking things that came out about 180 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 5: in the courthouse was, as you know, his apology video 181 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 5: was largely well just received, not well received because people 182 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 5: thought that. 183 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 6: It was disrespectful because he never said Cassie's name. We 184 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 6: found out. 185 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:26,200 Speaker 5: And it was super shocking by a Mark Agnofilio that 186 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:29,320 Speaker 5: he was the one that said, take Cassie's name out 187 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:30,439 Speaker 5: of there because. 188 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:32,439 Speaker 6: She may well be a grand jury witness. 189 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 5: And already they were forward thinking that they didn't want 190 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 5: to look like they were in any way tampering that. 191 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:39,200 Speaker 6: Now, what does that tell us? 192 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 5: It tells us, and it told the courtroom largely he 193 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 5: knew how much trouble he was in, and he knew 194 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:48,320 Speaker 5: Jane was one of the only people that could either 195 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 5: testify right as the current he's a great guy, or 196 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 5: put a nail in his coffin. And that's why it 197 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 5: was so shocking that people, as. 198 00:10:56,520 --> 00:10:57,720 Speaker 6: Their testimony went on. 199 00:10:57,880 --> 00:11:01,559 Speaker 5: That you know, this woman has your freedom in her hands, 200 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 5: but its nature couldn't be denied, and he proceeded to 201 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:08,560 Speaker 5: treat her even more cruelly, even more shocking. Again, it 202 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:12,080 Speaker 5: was very strategic having around, having her around the family, 203 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 5: having her lawyers, paying for her lawyers, making sure sure 204 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:19,320 Speaker 5: that there was nothing that could she would be under. 205 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:24,079 Speaker 6: The umbrella of employee privilege. I'm sorry, non employee of 206 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:25,319 Speaker 6: legal privilege. 207 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:29,720 Speaker 5: However, however, it looks like they somehow misplayed that because 208 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:32,840 Speaker 5: here we are again in court and Jane is right 209 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 5: now having Diddy's freedom in her hands. 210 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 2: I love the way that you explain that kind of 211 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 2: keeping her in the fold so she would use his 212 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:45,200 Speaker 2: lawyer that he paid for so he could still keep 213 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 2: a tab on her. And she was very quick to 214 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 2: point out tsa that she did not speak to investigators 215 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 2: before she testified at the grand jury, that she didn't 216 00:11:56,920 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 2: cooperate with them. She was only there because she was 217 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 2: subpeated forced to be there, and that's after speaking to 218 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:05,079 Speaker 2: the lawyer Shawn. 219 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 1: Colmes provided for her. 220 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:09,679 Speaker 2: Now, I want everybody to look at what Teasa tells 221 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 2: us talking about the apology video. 222 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 1: Jane the witness, was there when the family and the 223 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 1: lawyers are all trying to figure. 224 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:19,960 Speaker 2: Out what are we going to say in the way 225 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 2: of the Cassie beat down video. 226 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:23,840 Speaker 1: This is critical watch. 227 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 9: It's so difficult to reflect on the darkest times in 228 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 9: your life. Sometimes you got to do that. I was 229 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 9: fucked up, I mean I had rock bottom, but I 230 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 9: made no excuses my behavior on that video is inexcusable. 231 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:48,679 Speaker 9: I take full responsibility for my ashes in that video. 232 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:50,080 Speaker 1: I'm disgusted. 233 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 9: I was disgusted then when I did it. I'm disgusting now. 234 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:02,679 Speaker 9: I went and I sought out professional help. Now to 235 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 9: go into therapy. We're going to rehab. I had to 236 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 9: ask God for his mercy and grace. I'm so sorry, 237 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:23,200 Speaker 9: but I'm committed to be a better man usin every day. 238 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 9: I'm not asking for forgiveness. I'm truly sorry. 239 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:34,960 Speaker 1: I really don't even know what to say. That. 240 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 2: That's from Duty's official instagram accept technical legal term bs 241 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 2: BS therapy my rear end rehab really and then asking 242 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:47,239 Speaker 2: God to forgive him? 243 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:49,080 Speaker 1: Whoa whoa woe? 244 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:54,200 Speaker 2: Tisa tells, isn't it true according to the witness who 245 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 2: is under oath and would be committing perjury if she's 246 00:13:57,880 --> 00:13:59,079 Speaker 2: lying that? 247 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:01,840 Speaker 1: After here apology. 248 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 2: Video, he then goes on to beat Jane so badly 249 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 2: that in one case he broke down the door and 250 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:17,959 Speaker 2: she has video of that and the jury saw it. Now, 251 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 2: this is when he's trying to be a better man again, 252 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 2: objection my red end, that's a lie, be a better man. 253 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 6: He beat her to Helen back. 254 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 1: Is that when he's a better man, tore down the 255 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 1: door again. Objection, my rae end what. 256 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 6: Happened in court when Jane Do testified. 257 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 5: We all knew the violence was coming, but nobody knew 258 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 5: what was going to be a scene out of the 259 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 5: shining to hear that little bunny rabbit talk about. Yes 260 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 5: she threw a glass, Yes she threw a candle, and 261 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 5: then she went on a chase through her house. She 262 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 5: ran to the bedroom door, realizing quickly she made a mistake, 263 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 5: locked the door. 264 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 6: He kicked in. 265 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:06,360 Speaker 5: The door again. These are expensive, heavy doors. She even 266 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:09,560 Speaker 5: said it was so much to fix she couldn't afford it, which, 267 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 5: by the way, he gave her the money to fix 268 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 5: these doors in cash in an unmarked brown paper bag, 269 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 5: which seems to be the Diddy special. Let's see what 270 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 5: the IRS has to say about this. You know, but 271 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 5: he kicked in one door, right it was. 272 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 6: She ran to the bathroom. He kicked in the door 273 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 6: to the bathroom. 274 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 5: She ran to the closet hiding and Kit was trying 275 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 5: to kick in the door to the. 276 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 6: Closet, kicked the handle, kicked the door. She did what 277 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:39,280 Speaker 6: she could. She seriously changed into a dress she could 278 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 6: run in. 279 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 1: He kicked that in. 280 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 10: She ran out the house barefoot, two six blocks barefoot 281 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 10: in a dark southern California evening, you know how dark 282 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 10: it gets in and she hid for about two hours, 283 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:56,880 Speaker 10: hoping that he would calm down. 284 00:15:56,800 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 6: And go away. 285 00:15:57,640 --> 00:16:00,160 Speaker 5: At the end of two hours, she came back, still 286 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 5: scared out of her mind, and came back, and that 287 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 5: demon was still waiting for her. 288 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 6: And the violence she actually said he went through. 289 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:11,880 Speaker 5: It broke our hearts, but it actually shocked and mind 290 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 5: you why we're listening to the violence that was to come. 291 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 5: The apology video is still fresh in our minds, Cassie 292 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 5: is still set fresh in our minds. When I say 293 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 5: he painted him all his own self out to be 294 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:29,239 Speaker 5: a liar. It was shocking and groundbreaking just how damaging 295 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 5: her testimony was to him. 296 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 11: Their relationship never recovered after that night, both of them 297 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 11: agreeing to no longer see each other romantically. Comb sent 298 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 11: her roughly twelve thousand dollars for the damages to her 299 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 11: home and to cover Antoine's payment. Jane never fixed the 300 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 11: four doors Combs kicked in, but the jury saw photos 301 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 11: of the damages and videos of Combs and Jane discussing 302 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 11: her injuries from that night. The video captured bruising around 303 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 11: her eye and a welt on her forehead visible through 304 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:58,160 Speaker 11: the makeup on her face, all. 305 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:02,480 Speaker 2: For off a balcony. Like he's the villain in a 306 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 2: movie The Sopranos. 307 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:07,880 Speaker 1: It is like he was a film director. 308 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:11,280 Speaker 4: He plots his life out almost like his different episodes. 309 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:14,359 Speaker 12: He has grabbed everybody's attention in his life. 310 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:17,640 Speaker 1: He lives his life like it's a movie. 311 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 2: Is he grabbing the attention of GERR number six and more? 312 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:29,720 Speaker 2: After Combe's rebuked for communicating in court with the gurrrs, 313 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:34,159 Speaker 2: suddenly GERR number six is under threat of being thrown 314 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:36,879 Speaker 2: off the jury at the request of the state. No 315 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:41,639 Speaker 2: ruling yet, the defense is fighting it. Tisa Tal's joining 316 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:45,679 Speaker 2: me from the courthouse, investigator and commentator hosts of Tisa 317 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 2: Tel's on YouTube. That's where I found her, Tisa tales, 318 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 2: thank you for being with us and braving the elements. 319 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:52,960 Speaker 1: Tisa. 320 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:56,239 Speaker 2: In court, we hear the witness as you described as 321 00:17:56,280 --> 00:18:01,400 Speaker 2: a baby bunny getting tortured, saying and heartbreaking words to. 322 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:04,879 Speaker 1: Me, I am not an animal. 323 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:09,800 Speaker 2: The fact that this woman was brought to the point 324 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 2: where she says I'm not an animal. 325 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 1: What happened tsa. 326 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:18,520 Speaker 6: So what happened broke all our hearts. 327 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:23,959 Speaker 5: She was treated worse than an animal, She was treated subhuman. 328 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:24,920 Speaker 6: Okay. 329 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:29,440 Speaker 5: She was forced to hide for two hours, six blocks 330 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 5: away from our house in the bitious, barefoot, for fear 331 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 5: of what this man would do. 332 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:35,240 Speaker 6: Okay. 333 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 5: She finally made her way back to the house over 334 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:42,240 Speaker 5: two hours later, and when she walked in that house, 335 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 5: she saw Sean walking to water. Now, at this point 336 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 5: she was praying everything would be okay, and it seemed 337 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 5: like it might have been, and they went into the house. 338 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:54,960 Speaker 6: Okay. 339 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:59,720 Speaker 5: All of a sudden, there is some argument over another person. 340 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 6: She actually calls. 341 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 5: Him a pedophile, even though the prosecution is quick to 342 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 5: say that the girl was over eighteen. But to Jane Doe, 343 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:12,440 Speaker 5: she said, if she's not old enough to buy drinks, 344 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:13,880 Speaker 5: what are you doing with her? 345 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:15,200 Speaker 6: She is a child. 346 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:19,640 Speaker 5: An argument starts over that, and the most insane thing 347 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 5: I can never think of starts. She all of a sudden, 348 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:24,800 Speaker 5: things she feels all the resentment rise up in her, 349 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:27,240 Speaker 5: she feels all the ways he's played her for a fool, 350 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 5: and she starts throwing candles out on the mind of 351 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 5: the candles old hit him, but the wax is hitting him. 352 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:34,960 Speaker 5: And if you think about what Diddy's into, I would 353 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 5: have thought he would have liked a little wax splashing 354 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:41,440 Speaker 5: going helm. But this enraised him, This embraised him, and 355 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:42,680 Speaker 5: he went after her. 356 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 6: She took off. 357 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 1: Okay. 358 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:49,879 Speaker 5: Now, one important detail that I overlooked was the fact 359 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:53,200 Speaker 5: that when she was trying to make away. 360 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:53,600 Speaker 1: Out the house. 361 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:56,720 Speaker 6: How could I overlook that he literally was. 362 00:19:56,840 --> 00:19:59,359 Speaker 5: When he was kicking through the doors. He kicked the 363 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 5: four doors again. The drury was shocked leaning in. There 364 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:07,439 Speaker 5: were door heavy wooden doors splintered in. Okay, when she 365 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 5: ran to leave the house, he literally kicked her that 366 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:14,239 Speaker 5: same strength that knocked through four doors. He kicked her 367 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:17,240 Speaker 5: again and hit her in the thigh. She fell down. 368 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:22,160 Speaker 5: She literally still tried to crawl away. This monster lifted 369 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:26,879 Speaker 5: her up in a choke hold. She remembers her little 370 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 5: toes dangling. She's barefoot, her little toes dangling while he 371 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 5: is trying to choke her and make her submit. She 372 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:38,480 Speaker 5: didn't know what was gonna do, right. She then threw 373 00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 5: He then threw her down. 374 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 6: And while this is happening, Okay, the woman, the child 375 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 6: of the little girl because she's not a lift to 376 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:48,359 Speaker 6: buy drinks. 377 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 5: According to Jane Do is on the phone for rating her, 378 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:57,680 Speaker 5: and Diddy is letting that happen while she is being 379 00:20:57,880 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 5: kicked and pummeled. Finally, Jane Do yelled out, he's beating 380 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:06,680 Speaker 5: my ass right now, and that's when the phone went 381 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 5: to the phone got cut off. 382 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:11,440 Speaker 6: But let me just say this, It wasn't over. 383 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:14,119 Speaker 5: And you would think this monster would have had enough, 384 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 5: but again, I guess. 385 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:16,359 Speaker 6: He's built for this. 386 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:19,359 Speaker 5: She then said she felt so exhausted, more exhausted than 387 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 5: she's ever thought in her life. 388 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:22,359 Speaker 6: As she went into the shower. 389 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 5: I would imagine to try to focus, to try to 390 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:27,200 Speaker 5: center herself, to try to really. 391 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:29,119 Speaker 6: Just be like, what is going on in my life? 392 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 5: Okay, she's in the shower, and she says that she 393 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 5: is naked, as you would expect. 394 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:36,880 Speaker 6: However, why was that such important detail? 395 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 5: She says, She turned around and this demon is standing 396 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 5: in the shower. What comes into the shower with her? 397 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:47,639 Speaker 5: And it's just standing there. He's not under the water, 398 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:50,359 Speaker 5: he's in the shower away from the water, and he 399 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:54,679 Speaker 5: is wearing clothes, he is wearing pants, and he sits 400 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:56,360 Speaker 5: there in the shower watching her. 401 00:21:56,560 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 6: She's startled. He turns around. Boom, He's small in the face. 402 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:03,440 Speaker 6: She cuts caught off guard. He snacks her again. 403 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:07,520 Speaker 5: She gets caught off guard, smacks her again the third 404 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:13,000 Speaker 5: time of all his strength and knocks her to the ground. Okay, 405 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 5: knocks her to the drowned. It was traumatic. And you guys, 406 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 5: that was only act too. There was more violence that unfolded. 407 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:26,199 Speaker 5: There was more violence that unfolded again. This testimony was 408 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:29,200 Speaker 5: shocking and it uphold everybody in the courtroom. 409 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:33,639 Speaker 6: I cannot underlying that enough. How uphold everybody was to 410 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:34,000 Speaker 6: hear this. 411 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 1: Crime stories with Nancy Grace. 412 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:48,080 Speaker 2: So Greg Morse joining me, veteran trial lawyer, criminal defense 413 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:51,639 Speaker 2: attorney joining us out of the poem. Beaates jurisdiction, author 414 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 2: of Untested on Amazon at morselegal dot com. So you're 415 00:22:56,560 --> 00:23:00,440 Speaker 2: still saying it's just a tiff between boyfriend girlfriend, Well it's. 416 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:03,879 Speaker 13: The James testimony. If I didn't know who called her, 417 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 13: I would think the defense called her. Her testimony wasn't 418 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 13: supportive of sex trafficking. It was supportive of battery, maybe 419 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:11,720 Speaker 13: aggravated battery. 420 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 1: But this is a sex trusting. 421 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 13: Well, I know it's not people that the day before 422 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 13: Shawn Combs is arrested, they go and have a hotel 423 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:23,199 Speaker 13: night with them. They want to rub their feet in afterwards. 424 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 13: These are women that made bad choices to with the 425 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:29,679 Speaker 13: sex stuff, but none of their testimony says that the 426 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 13: violence was to force them into it. She only got 427 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 13: angry when she thought Seawn Comes was actually sleeping with 428 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:39,879 Speaker 13: another person. She still had her rent paid. That was 429 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:43,800 Speaker 13: her main concern when the employment separated. She testified to that. 430 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:47,399 Speaker 13: So while Seawn Combs is a horrible, weak human being 431 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 13: and disgusting, the prosecution charged this as sex trafficking, and 432 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:54,720 Speaker 13: the defense has to be very happy with what would 433 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:57,919 Speaker 13: have been much worse testimony that Jane gave them. The 434 00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:00,920 Speaker 13: things they said in opening that this was an angry person, 435 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:04,040 Speaker 13: This was someone maybe you wouldn't do these type of 436 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:08,160 Speaker 13: sex acts and these type of partying, but these women. 437 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:09,239 Speaker 3: Intentionally did it. 438 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 13: They only got angry after the fact. And that's what 439 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 13: we're seeing here. And as far as the sex trafficking case, unfortunately, 440 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:19,040 Speaker 13: these aren't victims of sex trafficking. Real victims of sex 441 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:22,199 Speaker 13: trafficking don't rub their captor's feet unless they're forced too. 442 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:24,680 Speaker 13: They don't get their rent paid when they don't live 443 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:27,159 Speaker 13: with the person. That's just not how it goes. So 444 00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:30,240 Speaker 13: he's a horrible human. But the defense got some good 445 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:34,240 Speaker 13: stuff to work with in Jane's testimony and the mistrial. 446 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:37,119 Speaker 13: That's probably because Sean looked at the juror and the 447 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:40,400 Speaker 13: prosecution got excited and tried to make a big deal 448 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:42,480 Speaker 13: of it. So you know these things happening. 449 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:45,920 Speaker 2: Sorry, the mistake motion was by the defense. I believe 450 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 2: it's the third one they've made that threw ones the 451 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:51,720 Speaker 2: men shot down. So doctor Bethanie Marshall, say, did you 452 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:55,480 Speaker 2: hear everything that Greg Morris just said? Say, that's the problem, 453 00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:59,639 Speaker 2: that is the problem. You just heard Tisa tails and 454 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:03,119 Speaker 2: she's got a lot more to tell us about the 455 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:06,760 Speaker 2: beatings over and over, tearing down four doors to get 456 00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 2: at the victim. And she's about to tell you about 457 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 2: all the written communications that Jane stands going, I don't 458 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 2: want to do this. I don't want to do this 459 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:18,440 Speaker 2: as a matter of fact, Bethy. 460 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 1: Well, listen, listen to this. 461 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:23,239 Speaker 14: Jane sends texts I don't want to be used and 462 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:26,440 Speaker 14: locked in a room to perform and fulfill your fantasies. 463 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:30,080 Speaker 14: I'm not a porn star. I'm not an animal. Coming 464 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:34,160 Speaker 14: to the realization of what this really is. When Combs replies, 465 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 14: she's the only one who can bring him peace, Jane 466 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:37,720 Speaker 14: snaps back. 467 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:39,880 Speaker 1: Introduce her to Pee. 468 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:43,159 Speaker 14: It's not me, it's the entertainment that puts you a 469 00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:47,200 Speaker 14: piece Pee referred to one of the entertainers, Paul. 470 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:51,560 Speaker 2: When a woman is beaten and beaten and beaten and 471 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:55,680 Speaker 2: dragged and hiding in the bushes and riding, I am 472 00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:58,439 Speaker 2: not an animal. I don't want to be locked in 473 00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 2: a room and forced to perform sex tricks while you watch. 474 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:10,640 Speaker 2: That is not consensual sex. Well, Nancy, she's saying no. 475 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 12: No means no. Even adolescents know that. Now in our society, 476 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 12: she is saying no. And he kicks down four doors. 477 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:22,520 Speaker 12: And let me tell you something, Nancy, when a person 478 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 12: is enraged or having a rage attack, it takes only 479 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:29,000 Speaker 12: twenty minutes for the admigned delight to calm back down again. 480 00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:32,760 Speaker 12: In other words, he could have controlled himself. He could 481 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:36,000 Speaker 12: have walked out that door, walked around the block, taken 482 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:40,200 Speaker 12: a pause, taken a beat, but he enjoyed beating her. 483 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:44,320 Speaker 12: This was a sadistic beat down which tells me that 484 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:46,360 Speaker 12: he was in full. 485 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:46,960 Speaker 6: Control of her. 486 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:47,760 Speaker 1: I doubt she. 487 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 12: Could have gotten away even though she was trying. He 488 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:53,200 Speaker 12: beat her within an inch of her life and let 489 00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:56,400 Speaker 12: her live so he could sex traffick her even more 490 00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:59,680 Speaker 12: if these allegations are true. So we keep talking about 491 00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:02,639 Speaker 12: how women don't get away from men like this. This 492 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 12: is the tale, this unfolding right now. If anyone has 493 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:09,760 Speaker 12: any doubt about women staying with men who abuse them 494 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:12,720 Speaker 12: or sex traffic them, just listen to the story and 495 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:15,879 Speaker 12: ask yourself if Jane could have left or if she 496 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:17,440 Speaker 12: was afraid for her life with me. 497 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:21,600 Speaker 2: Danny Pinter Out of Washington, Senior vice president, Director of 498 00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:27,240 Speaker 2: Law Center National Center on Sex Exploitation. Danny, I'm reading 499 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 2: directly from the code. Sex trafficking involves exploiting a person 500 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:38,080 Speaker 2: for sex acts through force, fraud, coercion, recruiting, harboring, transporting, providing, 501 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:43,840 Speaker 2: obtaining a person for sex exploitation, regardless of whether it's force, 502 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:45,359 Speaker 2: fraud or coercion. 503 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:46,520 Speaker 1: Bam. 504 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:50,199 Speaker 2: I've never seen a case fit into sex trafficking definitions 505 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:51,159 Speaker 2: more than this one. 506 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:53,600 Speaker 15: You had the nail on the head, Nancy. This is 507 00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:59,639 Speaker 15: classic sex trafficking and the prosecution doesn't have to prove force, fraud, 508 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,960 Speaker 15: and corsion. They can prove any one of them. But 509 00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:05,600 Speaker 15: I completely agree with you that every single one is present. 510 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:10,440 Speaker 15: You could ask any law enforcement agency that investigates sex 511 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:14,119 Speaker 15: trafficking and they have a word for what Sean Combs 512 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:19,200 Speaker 15: is doing. It's called romeo pimping. Literally, very often sex 513 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:23,560 Speaker 15: trafficking victims rub the feet voluntarily of their captors. Very 514 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:26,080 Speaker 15: often they believe they're in love, and part of that 515 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:30,719 Speaker 15: loving relationship, the trafficker uses against them. And here we 516 00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 15: have force with all the violence, we have fraud, where 517 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:38,600 Speaker 15: we heard in Jane Doe's testimony that Diddy lured her in, 518 00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:42,960 Speaker 15: groomed her with this big romantic relationship. It started off 519 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:46,360 Speaker 15: very classic. He's taking on vacations. It was loving, it 520 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:49,360 Speaker 15: was kind, it was gentle. This didn't start with freak offs. 521 00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:52,960 Speaker 15: He slowly introduces that that's fraudulent. And then we have 522 00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:57,320 Speaker 15: so many examples of coercion, as you stated, and as 523 00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 15: a doctor pointed out, many times she said she does 524 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:02,400 Speaker 15: want to do this. Sean knew she didn't want to 525 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:04,800 Speaker 15: do this, but he kept pushing her. And we know 526 00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:08,400 Speaker 15: it's coercion because the definition of coersion under the statute 527 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:11,560 Speaker 15: is that using a scheme or a pattern to make 528 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:15,400 Speaker 15: the victim believe that if they didn't comply, serious harmon 529 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:21,720 Speaker 15: would come to them. 530 00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:23,560 Speaker 1: Crime stories with Nancy Grace. 531 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:30,360 Speaker 3: He's not used to being told no. 532 00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:33,640 Speaker 2: And he throws a major tantrum because he can. 533 00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:37,840 Speaker 4: I've seen him get so angry that he looks like 534 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:39,000 Speaker 4: he's about to pass out. 535 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:40,880 Speaker 3: The veins in his neck. 536 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:44,560 Speaker 2: Pop in the kickings, the beatings, the draggings. 537 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:48,720 Speaker 3: He just can't believe that somebody says no to you. 538 00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:50,080 Speaker 3: He can't believe it. 539 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:53,240 Speaker 1: Welcome back joining us at the Monahan Federal. 540 00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 2: Courthouse is Tisa tells investigator commentator, host of Tisa Tails 541 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:02,320 Speaker 2: on you Tube where I found her, Tisa again, thank 542 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:04,920 Speaker 2: you for being with us. I want to outline for 543 00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:09,400 Speaker 2: Greg Morris, who obviously does not know the definition of 544 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:15,840 Speaker 2: sex trafficking or coercion, a point where Tisa Jane was 545 00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:20,520 Speaker 2: in the bath, in the shower vomiting after being forced 546 00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 2: to have sex with three male sex workers. Let's just 547 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:27,720 Speaker 2: get that mental image for a moment, having another eighteen 548 00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:31,960 Speaker 2: hour sex marathon on video, which later she was threatened 549 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:35,880 Speaker 2: with by the way, and then so disgusted, she starts vomiting, 550 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:42,719 Speaker 2: comes comes in, make sure she's through vomiting, and then 551 00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:44,320 Speaker 2: he's happy because he wants. 552 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:47,240 Speaker 1: Her to get back in the ring. Tell me what happened, Tisa. 553 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:50,880 Speaker 5: What happened was this is a time that she said 554 00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:53,280 Speaker 5: that she wanted to have a sobriety because she felt like, 555 00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:55,680 Speaker 5: much like Cassie, she was sliding down. 556 00:30:55,480 --> 00:31:00,160 Speaker 6: The road with pills, trills, tricks, whatever. Did he want it? Okay? 557 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:05,080 Speaker 5: She literally arranged to have one heavily endowed man. 558 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,200 Speaker 6: After the other were by the way. 559 00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:10,560 Speaker 5: She wasn't allowed to use any type of protection. 560 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:15,080 Speaker 6: Again, the pain was the point. And after she crawled 561 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:16,360 Speaker 6: into that bathroom and she. 562 00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:19,760 Speaker 2: Bonded, wha wha wha wait wait wait wait wait. 563 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:24,120 Speaker 1: Wait I didn't hear the part about the penises. Did 564 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:26,160 Speaker 1: not hear that part? Yeah? 565 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:29,840 Speaker 2: Stop stop okay, I'm going to need a shrink after 566 00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:34,320 Speaker 2: this and a shower myself. I'm gonna spray myself with 567 00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:37,680 Speaker 2: lysol my ears after hearing this start start that over. 568 00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:41,760 Speaker 2: What did you say about the penises? This is not 569 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:44,880 Speaker 2: about sex. This is about trying to hurt Jane. 570 00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:47,600 Speaker 6: This was about hurting Jane. 571 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:50,480 Speaker 5: Did he have three requirements as far as I can see, 572 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:54,600 Speaker 5: One the woman must suffer. Two they could not use protection, 573 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:57,240 Speaker 5: and three the escort the pain. 574 00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:02,560 Speaker 2: When you say protection, hey did you couldn't allow Jane 575 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:06,120 Speaker 2: to have the sex worker use condoms. They had to 576 00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:09,080 Speaker 2: have your protected sex to make Shawn Combs over in 577 00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:10,400 Speaker 2: the corner masturbating happy. 578 00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:13,920 Speaker 6: Listen when he saw that rubber, it killed his vibe. 579 00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:15,560 Speaker 6: He demanded he. 580 00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:19,640 Speaker 5: Needed to see that Willie free, okay, and then he 581 00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:20,960 Speaker 5: literally after that. 582 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:25,240 Speaker 16: The third requirement was that they must be well, well, well, 583 00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:32,000 Speaker 16: heavenly heavily endowed, to the point of both victims. 584 00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:33,600 Speaker 6: Actually said that they were always in pains. 585 00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:38,160 Speaker 2: Afterward, the words were in the courtroom heavily and down. 586 00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:40,000 Speaker 6: Even above the way they looked in the face. 587 00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:42,920 Speaker 5: He was only concerned with the side below the waist 588 00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:46,320 Speaker 5: again did he went after But let me just say 589 00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:48,320 Speaker 5: something to your man. 590 00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:51,560 Speaker 2: He laffable in a way the way we're talking about it. 591 00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:56,440 Speaker 2: But just think about the victim begging. I want him 592 00:32:56,480 --> 00:33:00,320 Speaker 2: to at least use a condom, and I would actually 593 00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:01,920 Speaker 2: make Seawan Coms mad. 594 00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:04,880 Speaker 5: It will not only make him mad, it would make 595 00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:05,880 Speaker 5: him enraged. 596 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:08,680 Speaker 6: As a matter of fact, and prior testimony. 597 00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:11,480 Speaker 5: She told about the fact where there was a guy 598 00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:15,400 Speaker 5: and he was stinky and dirty and he was sweating 599 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:19,040 Speaker 5: all over and she begged, can I please use a 600 00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:21,840 Speaker 5: kind She didn't want this guy touching her, touching her. 601 00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:24,680 Speaker 5: She just remembers sweat dripping on her face. There was 602 00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:26,959 Speaker 5: another time that she begged to use a condom and 603 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:30,800 Speaker 5: he was standing behind the entertainer giving her the look 604 00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:33,080 Speaker 5: of like you better go, don't mess this up for me, 605 00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:38,400 Speaker 5: and was signaling through violent body language and very menacing looks. 606 00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:41,360 Speaker 5: Cut it out, just do it, and she actually ended 607 00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:45,200 Speaker 5: up doing it. But again, even when they get into 608 00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:48,680 Speaker 5: everything that happened, you gotta talk about them before, Nancy, 609 00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:51,600 Speaker 5: because no one's talking about that, no offense to our 610 00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:55,480 Speaker 5: esteemed to your esteem, guest, But what makes a real 611 00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:58,160 Speaker 5: victim when you see them and you're at the funeral, 612 00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:01,280 Speaker 5: when they're as a vegetable in the hospital, people are 613 00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:04,239 Speaker 5: being beat and stumped. Just an inch away can make 614 00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:07,480 Speaker 5: someone paralyzed. But let's talk about the real victims. Since 615 00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:10,560 Speaker 5: people need to see an episode from Leo Nilsen taken. 616 00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:13,040 Speaker 6: Let me take you to the testimony yesterday. 617 00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:17,959 Speaker 5: Jane, there just been slapped silly in the shower, two 618 00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:22,120 Speaker 5: gulf sized ball knocks on her head, a black eye farming. 619 00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:24,200 Speaker 5: What is did he tell her to do? I'll give 620 00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:26,560 Speaker 5: you three guesses. Did he apologize? 621 00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:27,400 Speaker 6: Did he run? 622 00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:30,680 Speaker 5: No? He literally told her, You're not gonna f up 623 00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:33,319 Speaker 5: my night. You're not gonna f up my life night. 624 00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:35,359 Speaker 5: I don't know what you're doing. You better take this 625 00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:39,840 Speaker 5: fing pill. Take this effing pill. He literally then forced 626 00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:42,440 Speaker 5: her to take and was screaming and not going to 627 00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:44,840 Speaker 5: f up my night. This is a woman that is fleet, 628 00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:47,439 Speaker 5: that has been beaten, that is bruised up. He made 629 00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:51,200 Speaker 5: her take the pill, and moments after just being brutally beaten, 630 00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:56,879 Speaker 5: he forces her to perform with an entertainer named Antoine, 631 00:34:57,040 --> 00:35:01,680 Speaker 5: and after she performed right and was brutalized and felt 632 00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:06,200 Speaker 5: so dejected, he then plays this weird eyes, white shut 633 00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:11,200 Speaker 5: psychological thriller where he literally then says, how can I 634 00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:13,920 Speaker 5: expect you to ever be in a relationship. 635 00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:15,200 Speaker 6: I can't stand you. 636 00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:18,840 Speaker 5: You're a whore this year that and literally gets stressed 637 00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:21,440 Speaker 5: and leaves her alone while she is in a puddle 638 00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:22,680 Speaker 5: of tears alone. 639 00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:24,960 Speaker 6: This guy is demonic. 640 00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:27,920 Speaker 5: But I hope for everyone that's saying she's not. 641 00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:30,480 Speaker 6: A real victim, then what does a real victim look like? 642 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:39,520 Speaker 2: The incredible, vast waste of luxury goods, money just throwing it. 643 00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:43,839 Speaker 4: He's used to throwing money at any situation to get 644 00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:45,240 Speaker 4: what he wants. 645 00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:49,520 Speaker 2: With me is special guest Chris McDonough. He's a director 646 00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:54,600 Speaker 2: of the Cole Case Foundation, former homicide detective, three hundred 647 00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:58,640 Speaker 2: homicide investigations under his belt. Is the star of the 648 00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:02,920 Speaker 2: interview room on YouTube. But for my purposes now he 649 00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:07,160 Speaker 2: worked vice. You and I have seen plenty of sex 650 00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:09,000 Speaker 2: trafficking cases, plenty of pimps. 651 00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:13,560 Speaker 1: What do you think about that? What do you think 652 00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:14,960 Speaker 1: about that? 653 00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:17,520 Speaker 17: Yeah, as Shesha said, I mean, this is the ditty 654 00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:24,520 Speaker 17: special and he is a pimp in an entertainer's environment. 655 00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:29,360 Speaker 17: And you know the fact that he this is classic Nancy. 656 00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:33,799 Speaker 17: You've seen it so many times and this he has 657 00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:38,800 Speaker 17: stripped these victims of their self identity. It's all about power, 658 00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:42,160 Speaker 17: control and dominance. That is the way he keeps them 659 00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:46,040 Speaker 17: in his harem. And he's able to do and say 660 00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:48,720 Speaker 17: whatever he feels, whatever he wants. 661 00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:51,440 Speaker 3: And remember one thing, the word there. 662 00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:56,000 Speaker 17: Is what he wants, not what she needs, not what 663 00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:59,640 Speaker 17: she wants, not what she desires and how to get 664 00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:04,480 Speaker 17: out of the situation. He is controlling everything about the violence, 665 00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:10,200 Speaker 17: about the sexual fantasy. This guy is dangerous and I'm 666 00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:13,799 Speaker 17: glad he's in trial and hopefully the right outcome will 667 00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:14,279 Speaker 17: come as a. 668 00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:14,839 Speaker 3: Result of this. 669 00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:17,360 Speaker 2: You know. Tisa TiAl is joining us at the courthouse, 670 00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:19,719 Speaker 2: a star of Tisa Tales on YouTube. 671 00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:22,080 Speaker 1: Tisa this is the. 672 00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:25,640 Speaker 2: Example I used out of all my sex trafficking investigations. 673 00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:31,000 Speaker 2: The first one. The girl the victims fourteen just turned fourteen, 674 00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:33,479 Speaker 2: and I went into a hotel room to find her. 675 00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:34,560 Speaker 1: I said. 676 00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:37,120 Speaker 2: I came out to the vice and I said, she's 677 00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:39,399 Speaker 2: not in there. This thirty five year old women. Forty 678 00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:41,399 Speaker 2: year old women in there. They went, No, it's her 679 00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:44,520 Speaker 2: in the white boots. I went back in. That was 680 00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:46,880 Speaker 2: a fourteen year old little girl. She looked like a 681 00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:50,120 Speaker 2: thirty five year old stripper. And what made me think 682 00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:52,400 Speaker 2: of it is you telling me that comes told her 683 00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:56,360 Speaker 2: to stop vomiting, quit crying, and put on some makeup 684 00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:59,560 Speaker 2: and get back in that she's going to have to 685 00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:03,080 Speaker 2: f so and have to ask somebody, and on and on, 686 00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:07,359 Speaker 2: and just her thinking about her putting that makeup back on, 687 00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:11,799 Speaker 2: just like that little girl did that I represented, and 688 00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:15,920 Speaker 2: that little girl, by the way, Tisa, vanished during the 689 00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:17,920 Speaker 2: trial after I already struck the jury. 690 00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:19,960 Speaker 1: You don't get two bites of apple. 691 00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:22,520 Speaker 2: You strike a jury on a case, you lose your 692 00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:26,799 Speaker 2: victim that you can't try them again. We found her 693 00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:32,520 Speaker 2: and they were convicted. But what I'm saying is making 694 00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:36,279 Speaker 2: her put on that makeup on top of those bruises 695 00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:40,000 Speaker 2: and those tears and her mouth tasting like vomit. I mean, 696 00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:42,760 Speaker 2: how did the jury react? 697 00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:43,480 Speaker 6: Listen? 698 00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:46,200 Speaker 5: The jury reacted disgusting. And just to let you know, 699 00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:49,240 Speaker 5: all the testimony is blurring together. There was the incidence 700 00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:52,839 Speaker 5: that she testified about yesterday where after she got beat 701 00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:55,759 Speaker 5: to a pulp, she had to put on makeup. And 702 00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:58,880 Speaker 5: when I say that, the jury, when they heard what 703 00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:03,040 Speaker 5: happened with the goal fall size, they were disgusted. A 704 00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:06,279 Speaker 5: few of the women looked like were just shaking their 705 00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:10,440 Speaker 5: head silently. There was a real sense of judgment. And 706 00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:13,840 Speaker 5: this is looking at the photos, and unlike Cassie, she 707 00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:17,560 Speaker 5: has photos. But the thing is the photos were accidental. 708 00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:21,040 Speaker 5: Dinny's little scheme in my mind of keeping her clothes 709 00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:23,759 Speaker 5: because she is the woman that could destroy him which, 710 00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:25,680 Speaker 5: by the way, let that sink in. This woman can 711 00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:28,399 Speaker 5: destroy you or it can be your redemption. And you're 712 00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:31,360 Speaker 5: still brutally beating her in the coming days where he 713 00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:34,359 Speaker 5: was still playing that according to Danielle the Romeo lover 714 00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:37,239 Speaker 5: boy Pip situation, she was taking. 715 00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:40,440 Speaker 6: Just videos of him while he was posing because he 716 00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:41,680 Speaker 6: loved to be the muse. 717 00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:45,719 Speaker 5: And in those videos, the camera accidentally pans over her 718 00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:49,000 Speaker 5: face showing the black eyes, showing the nuts. But there 719 00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:51,319 Speaker 5: was even videos that she actually had when she was 720 00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:54,200 Speaker 5: taking her son for a walk with sunglasses and she 721 00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:57,520 Speaker 5: accidentally just lets the camera pan and she's with her 722 00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:01,400 Speaker 5: son with a black eye, trying to be a mother, 723 00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:04,520 Speaker 5: just out taking her son for a walk. Again, the 724 00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:09,320 Speaker 5: level of violence and dehumanization. And also from Diddy's trial, 725 00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:13,120 Speaker 5: it wasn't over. He then they showed us some messages, 726 00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:16,840 Speaker 5: and they showed us played voice notes where he was 727 00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:21,080 Speaker 5: unrepentant and still psychologically telling her that she's not a 728 00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:23,719 Speaker 5: good woman. They can't be together. This is why they 729 00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:26,960 Speaker 5: can never truly be together again. So much was thrown. 730 00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:29,440 Speaker 5: I'm sure it's blurring all together for the jury. 731 00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:29,719 Speaker 16: You know. 732 00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:33,520 Speaker 2: Doctor Bethany Marshall joining a psychoanalyst out of La, author 733 00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:37,160 Speaker 2: of a deal breaker. You can see her on peacock 734 00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:39,920 Speaker 2: now and she's at doctor Bethany Marshall dot com. Doctor 735 00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:43,520 Speaker 2: Bethany questioned to you jumping off. What TSA tells is 736 00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:48,239 Speaker 2: just recounted the dichotomy of her with those bruises on 737 00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:51,560 Speaker 2: her face and knots on her head out trying to 738 00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:55,480 Speaker 2: take her son out for a walk and be a mom. 739 00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:59,360 Speaker 2: That dichotomy. But my question to you is, how is 740 00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:04,759 Speaker 2: that sex? To Shaun Colmes, I don't with her in 741 00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:08,600 Speaker 2: one case of vomiting after a train, with her having 742 00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:12,160 Speaker 2: to put makeup on over bruises and not literally not 743 00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:16,759 Speaker 2: on our head and getting back into the hotel night 744 00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:21,880 Speaker 2: aka free coll aka rape, how is that sexy? 745 00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:22,960 Speaker 1: I don't see that. 746 00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:26,440 Speaker 12: So we're talking about this as sex trafficking and multiple 747 00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:29,560 Speaker 12: perversions and abuse and all of that. Why don't we 748 00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:32,319 Speaker 12: just use a much more accurate word or another word, 749 00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:35,960 Speaker 12: which is torture. So what does he do? He picks 750 00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:40,400 Speaker 12: men with the largest penises he can find, prohibits her 751 00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:45,560 Speaker 12: from using condoms, watch her vomit. That's as cruel as 752 00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:48,520 Speaker 12: he can get. And he needs to keep ratching it 753 00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:51,280 Speaker 12: up Nancy in order to maintain the sexual excitement. 754 00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:56,480 Speaker 2: And now we remember an American hero. Senior Chief Petty 755 00:41:56,480 --> 00:42:03,799 Speaker 2: Officer to Rell Horn, usked Coastguard, killed in action attempting 756 00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:09,560 Speaker 2: to intercept smugglers. He served fourteen years with the US 757 00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:14,480 Speaker 2: Coast Guard and leaves behind a grieving wife Rachel Sons, 758 00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:20,480 Speaker 2: Cad and Miller. American hero Senior Chief Petty Officer to 759 00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:25,640 Speaker 2: Rel Horne, Nancy Gray signing off Goodbye fight