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Speaker 1: This is Frosted Tips with Lance Bass and my heart

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Speaker 1: reading a podcast. Hello, my little Peanuts, it's me your host,

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Speaker 1: Lance Bass. This is Frosted Tips with Me Lance and

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Speaker 1: my lovely co host Turkey Turchin A little bitter all right.

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Speaker 1: I hope everyone survived the dreaded April Fools. I didn't

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Speaker 1: get fool this year. You never get frool. Never, No

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Speaker 1: April first. I wake up like, nope, not today, Satan,

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Speaker 1: Well you're the fooler. Yeah, I'm the fool. He's just

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Speaker 1: trying to fool ever. Yeah, like he spends the whole

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Speaker 1: day trying to fool everyone. Um, No, I don't do that.

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Speaker 1: The thing is April. April Fools is done by the

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Speaker 1: time I know it's Apri Fools, Like I never you know,

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Speaker 1: it's just like it's never tipped off. No one ever

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Speaker 1: tried to play a prank on me. And I'm like, oh,

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Speaker 1: well now it's too late to do anything. Yeah, but

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Speaker 1: I mean you do it to me a lot. What

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Speaker 1: What did I do? You always say random thing, You

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Speaker 1: always will say like random things, and I'm so super

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Speaker 1: gullible and I just believe everything you said. I mean,

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Speaker 1: that's just fun. I know that's not like an April

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Speaker 1: fool's joke. I like to get my jokes. I know,

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Speaker 1: what's a lot of effort it is. It's too much effort,

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Speaker 1: Like who has time for that? I know, I know,

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Speaker 1: I barely get some land scares in anymore. I know,

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Speaker 1: Thank God, No, it's it's happened. It's coming now. We

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Speaker 1: have children's months away. You have children's scared now, but

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Speaker 1: they're too young to even when they're old enough to

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Speaker 1: start scaring you, that is gonna be the best time

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Speaker 1: I know ever. This helped me. They're gonna go. This

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Speaker 1: is a cry for help. If people don't know, I

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Speaker 1: do a land scares to Michael during just during the

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Speaker 1: Halloween season. Used to be year round, but I wanted

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Speaker 1: to give his hard a little break. Thank you. It's

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Speaker 1: to start in October first, I know, it really is.

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Speaker 1: It's just like the worst live in my house during October.

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Speaker 1: If you haven't seen it, go to hashtag land scares

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Speaker 1: on any social media and you'll see all kinds of

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Speaker 1: fun Turkey church and scares. Yeah, you'll see me at

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Speaker 1: my sex. Yet they're not elaborate. They're just literally him

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Speaker 1: walking around a corner. I'm very but it's jumpy. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you don't really do anything. You just or you exist

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Speaker 1: and I am horrified. Yeah, I don't even make a noise. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: well there's a lot about you. All right. Well, happy

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Speaker 1: April everyone. Easter's on its way. I'm excited because today

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Speaker 1: we were having an Easter egg hunt. Yeah, for the kiddos.

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Speaker 1: Last year, they weren't really old enough to know what

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Speaker 1: Easter egg was. I mean, I guess they still don't know.

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Speaker 1: But we did have a practice run because we were

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Speaker 1: in Mississippi last week. Ye and uh, we did a

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Speaker 1: little Easter egg hunt with the kids just to get

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Speaker 1: ready for their real Easter egg hunt. Yeah, we had to.

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Speaker 1: They had to practice and they did great. They picked

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Speaker 1: up those eggs, they put them in the basket like

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Speaker 1: I mean, I guess that's all you need to do

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Speaker 1: a hoarder. So she's really good. She is. We're actually

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Speaker 1: trying to get her on the show Hoarders. Yeah, such

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Speaker 1: hoard every every block done. She's got hoard it listens

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Speaker 1: that what they call extreme cuponning? Yeah? Is that what

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Speaker 1: saves a lot of money? Super couper. There's people that

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Speaker 1: Brillo pads. I mean, but then you'd have to get storage,

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Speaker 1: That show still on. That's a show I would really

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Speaker 1: I not watching this show. Well, we could learn some

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Speaker 1: groceries insane. Well right now, yeahsane? Like what the heck?

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Speaker 1: But uh it's worth it. Um. The glad Awards are

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Speaker 1: GLAD Awards, a great show on Christina Aguilera. Who else

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Speaker 1: was there? Um um u a Fletcher Fletcher performed, or

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Speaker 1: vill Peck Margaret show was the Home can See amazing.

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Speaker 1: And of course the fashion, I know, everyone's over the top.

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Speaker 1: because he is He's coming in right now. Uh. We're

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Speaker 1: having our Easter egg hunt for all you know, our

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Speaker 1: can't come because you know, Easter is the next week obviously,

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Speaker 1: but they I think I overdid it. I got all

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Speaker 1: my Easter egg hunt stuff, and I think I plan

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Speaker 1: for our hundred kids and there's really only five kids.

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Speaker 1: You always do that for everything. So we have tons

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Speaker 1: and tons of eggs to hide and only four kids

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Speaker 1: have these eggs for the rest of their lives. But

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Speaker 1: they have little prizes in them. You know. I'm just

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Speaker 1: gonna hide them around the house normally put little gifts

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Speaker 1: to them. And it's our way, just gonna be a

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Speaker 1: fun game. Every so often we find an egg somewhere

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Speaker 1: and there's something in there. I like that. It's gonna

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Speaker 1: be our news little game, our little family game. Right.

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Speaker 1: I put random eggs some places, and something has to

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Speaker 1: be in the eggs every time, so someone gets to

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Speaker 1: give like a diamond ring. Yeah, okay, I said it

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Speaker 1: for me. No, you said it. No, I was requesting

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Speaker 1: All right, guys, let's take a little break. When we

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Speaker 1: only Ashley Parker Angel. You know, there's uh, there's a

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Speaker 1: cruise that's starting in November. Uh, we should we talk

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Speaker 1: about this on air? Is this interesting? Yeah, it's kind

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Speaker 1: of fun, you know, I just put the sense somewhere.

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Speaker 1: This is interesting because I love cruises. We should do

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Speaker 1: a Frost of Tips cruise at some point. Yes, fun.

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Speaker 1: seas looks amazing. Yeah, oh my gosh. Okay, if we're

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Speaker 1: a cruise together? Yes, yes, okay, so Tips cruise, let's

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Speaker 1: do this. This would be so fun. So with Dirty Pop,

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Speaker 1: we did a Dirty Pop cruise with my last show,

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Speaker 1: so much fun. The fans came out, I mean huge,

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Speaker 1: huge ship. Um. But this would be so fun to

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Speaker 1: bring like everyone that's on the show, because we could

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Speaker 1: put on the most incredible entertaining cruise ever. Yes, it

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Speaker 1: would be like TRL threw up all over a ship. Yes, yeah,

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Speaker 1: yes I would. Okay, so we've got to do guys. Okay, okay,

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Speaker 1: she's on it, she's on it, yeah, playing the whole thing. See, Okay,

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Speaker 1: So where do we want to go though? Because of

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Speaker 1: course everyone loves the Caribbean, right, and that's like the

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Speaker 1: normal thing. But I've never done one of those European one, Mediterranean. Yes, see,

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Speaker 1: all these places that I've never really seen before, because

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Speaker 1: I'm sure, like you, you always go to these countries

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Speaker 1: and you perform, but you see the backstage in hotel

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Speaker 1: and that's it. That's exactly. So we could go to

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Speaker 1: So if you were to build this cruise with our

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Speaker 1: on this cruise is such a good idea, This is

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Speaker 1: so fun. We gotta get we gotta get more kids

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Speaker 1: already does already do there on the notes, we'd have

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Speaker 1: to get at least one of them to come. Yeah, exact,

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Speaker 1: everyone needs to be represented on this ship for all

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Speaker 1: the boy band fandom out there, definitely, and then we

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Speaker 1: don't know if anyone's done that. They've done it with

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Speaker 1: why don't we get a boyband supergroup? Now? We kind

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Speaker 1: Love reality? Okay? Do you watch Ultimate Girls Trip that

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Speaker 1: I haven't seen? Okay, but I hear it's great, It's amazing.

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Speaker 1: That's basically what this would be. It's the ultimate girls trip,

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Speaker 1: a great reality TV show. Would Oh man, we really

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Speaker 1: Only that's what's that's what makes it good. Yeah, that

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Speaker 1: So we brought this up because you're you're going on

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Speaker 1: a cruise soon, and uh have you heard. I don't

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Speaker 1: know the name of this cruise, but it starts in November,

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Speaker 1: and it's a three year cruise. Okay, three years. So

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Speaker 1: people are their homes like you know, hired people whatever,

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Speaker 1: and they're getting on this ship in November. Three years.

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Speaker 1: It takes them to sell around the world and they

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Speaker 1: go to a different point port every weekend and see

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Speaker 1: the whole entire world. If I was retired, that would

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Speaker 1: be my life. Yeah, I was gonna say I haven't.

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Speaker 1: I haven't heard of the three year cruise, but I've

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Speaker 1: heard of people retiring cruises. It's cheaper, and it's cheaper

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Speaker 1: than it's like upscale, Like you know, there's a doctor,

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Speaker 1: your food, your alcohol, your broom and board, your house,

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Speaker 1: moves around the world, and that you've got sunlight, you've

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Speaker 1: got share you go see the world. But again, I

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Speaker 1: want to make sure the ship is bigger because I

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Speaker 1: ship for a year. Absolutely not. Yeah. Yeah, I'm wondering

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Speaker 1: though we're very close now. And uh, yeah, he's incredible.

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00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:16,160
Speaker 1: He's so smart. He taught nuclear physics. Guys brains out

422
00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:19,960
Speaker 1: of control. Yeah, he's amazing, so smart, and yeah, I

423
00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:22,320
Speaker 1: mean we were talking a little about this. I actually

424
00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:25,679
Speaker 1: haven't really talked public publicly about it ever. I grew

425
00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:28,280
Speaker 1: up at Jehovah's Witness and I was going to church

426
00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:30,560
Speaker 1: four times a week, and my whole life was so

427
00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:35,560
Speaker 1: conservative and so immersed in like organized religion, and that

428
00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:38,520
Speaker 1: religion in particular is a very you know, when I

429
00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:42,720
Speaker 1: was sixteen turning seventeen, I got excommunicated from the church.

430
00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:47,720
Speaker 1: And that was because I wanted to pursue entertainment. So

431
00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:49,960
Speaker 1: entertainment was a no no, it's a no no, it's

432
00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:51,880
Speaker 1: a no no. At least it was back then, and

433
00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:55,600
Speaker 1: I got just what they called this fellowship, and that's

434
00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:58,479
Speaker 1: basically being shunned, and so you're excommunicated. All of your

435
00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:00,480
Speaker 1: family and all your friends can no longer talk to you.

436
00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:03,800
Speaker 1: So that was like a really powerful experience for me

437
00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:07,560
Speaker 1: at that age where I realized, yeah, I disconnected from

438
00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:11,199
Speaker 1: my family, and I realized that I gave me a resilience,

439
00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:13,080
Speaker 1: like and I only talk about it not to like, oh,

440
00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:15,359
Speaker 1: feel bad for me, but this is actually a powerful lesson.

441
00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:20,479
Speaker 1: Was that I stepped away from the judgment of others.

442
00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:22,720
Speaker 1: And I think that's one of the things that holds

443
00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:24,439
Speaker 1: a lot of people back in life, is fear of

444
00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:28,560
Speaker 1: judgment of other people. Yeah, and so I really wanted

445
00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:31,920
Speaker 1: to do Grease the musical at the college and in

446
00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:35,000
Speaker 1: my town, and I was dating someone that didn't go

447
00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:37,840
Speaker 1: to the church, and those were problems, and they were like, look,

448
00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:39,640
Speaker 1: you have a choice to make. You can go down

449
00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:42,439
Speaker 1: this path or you can come back into the fold

450
00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:46,360
Speaker 1: and be a Jehovah's witness. And I chose to pursue

451
00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:48,879
Speaker 1: my dreams. And I had to move out of my

452
00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:51,159
Speaker 1: home like a senior year in high school, I had

453
00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:53,360
Speaker 1: to move out with my friend down the street. It's

454
00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:56,760
Speaker 1: so wild to me to move. You're as communicative from

455
00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:58,639
Speaker 1: your whole family because you wanted to be in Greece.

456
00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:00,560
Speaker 1: I don't mean, I'm not laughing, but it's like, this

457
00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:07,800
Speaker 1: is the whole notion, so ridiculous lyric. Yeah, when it

458
00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:14,480
Speaker 1: comes to spirituality religion, what what did you let him study?

459
00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:17,440
Speaker 1: Or I mean, like what is he religious? Right now? Yeah,

460
00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:21,200
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's a great question. I actually I

461
00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:25,000
Speaker 1: love the word spiritual versus religious, just because of my background.

462
00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:28,199
Speaker 1: So I always really had a focus on spirituality with

463
00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:31,400
Speaker 1: him and exposing him to all of the different spiritual

464
00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:34,640
Speaker 1: teachings because I think when you really boil it down,

465
00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:37,199
Speaker 1: I think they're all saying the same thing. Yeah, you know,

466
00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:41,440
Speaker 1: And I don't personally believe in what I call Churchianity.

467
00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:43,960
Speaker 1: My church is better than your church. We have the

468
00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:46,240
Speaker 1: way and you don't have the way. Ours is the

469
00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:50,479
Speaker 1: one true religion, Yours is not. I don't define whatever

470
00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:52,679
Speaker 1: you want to call it. If it's a higher power,

471
00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:55,760
Speaker 1: if it's the universe, if it's life itself, if it's nature,

472
00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:59,240
Speaker 1: whatever you want to define as life or consciousness. I

473
00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:02,880
Speaker 1: think it's so much bigger, and I think, um, exposing

474
00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:05,960
Speaker 1: my son to that was really important. And so that's

475
00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:08,360
Speaker 1: really where I come from as a father. And I'm

476
00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:11,400
Speaker 1: so proud of Lyric. My son's gonna graduate. Okay, I've

477
00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:14,879
Speaker 1: got an eighteen year old. Look when I was reading

478
00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:16,960
Speaker 1: up on your stuff, I mean because I mean I've

479
00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:21,040
Speaker 1: known Lyrics since he was a little little baby. Uh

480
00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:24,040
Speaker 1: and the fact that he is eighteen yea makes me

481
00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:29,560
Speaker 1: want to have a drink right now. But also he's

482
00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:31,679
Speaker 1: been bitten by the entertainment bug. We saw him an

483
00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:35,680
Speaker 1: American Horror Story so great, yes, um, is he still

484
00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:38,639
Speaker 1: wanting to be in the biz? Absolutely right? What's he up?

485
00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:40,960
Speaker 1: He did get bit by the acting bug. But I

486
00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:42,879
Speaker 1: was really proud of him because after he did that,

487
00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:46,119
Speaker 1: and he did six episodes of American Horror Story with

488
00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:52,160
Speaker 1: with you know, um, it's it's amazing. It's first day

489
00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:56,679
Speaker 1: of filming, so it's very first real audition. He books it, okay,

490
00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:58,120
Speaker 1: knocks it out of the park. That was his first

491
00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:02,240
Speaker 1: real I I just want to push people like that down. Yeah,

492
00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:07,160
Speaker 1: I'm like yeah right. And then his first day of filming,

493
00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:10,760
Speaker 1: Kathy Bates and Lady Gaga like this kids is not seen.

494
00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:14,880
Speaker 1: That's his first scene. That's his first scene, right, how

495
00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:16,920
Speaker 1: do you go up from there? It's like, I know,

496
00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:19,639
Speaker 1: you start with the start of the people talk about

497
00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:21,920
Speaker 1: set in the bar high, you know. And he did

498
00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:24,600
Speaker 1: six episodes and that was a phenomenal experience for him.

499
00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:26,199
Speaker 1: But I was really proud of him because then when

500
00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:28,840
Speaker 1: it came time to so, he didn't understand fully yet

501
00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:32,400
Speaker 1: what being a working actor was because it was an

502
00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:34,679
Speaker 1: audition and now you're on set and you're having all

503
00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:37,359
Speaker 1: this fun. You know. The actual life of an actor

504
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:40,399
Speaker 1: is a lot of preparing auditions and sometimes hearing no.

505
00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:47,280
Speaker 1: More often most of the time it's a no. So

506
00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:49,320
Speaker 1: he started preparing a lot of auditions and trying to

507
00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:52,040
Speaker 1: do school. And he actually really was like, Dad, I

508
00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:53,840
Speaker 1: think I want to like focus on school right now.

509
00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:57,480
Speaker 1: And I was like, awesome, yes, because I also had

510
00:25:57,520 --> 00:25:59,840
Speaker 1: this feeling of like he was so young at the

511
00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:02,920
Speaker 1: time time he's eleven, yeah, and you know, we grow

512
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:06,440
Speaker 1: up with peers in the entertainment industry, and sometimes when

513
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:08,879
Speaker 1: you start really young, it can be very challenging for

514
00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:12,000
Speaker 1: you be a young famous person. Of course, more challenging

515
00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:14,800
Speaker 1: more of the time than not. So a lot of

516
00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:16,840
Speaker 1: them come out with a lot of well, because you're

517
00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:20,639
Speaker 1: immediately pushed into an adult world where they're treating you

518
00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:24,640
Speaker 1: like an adult. Yes, you know, they don't give you respect, Yeah,

519
00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:26,680
Speaker 1: like that because you're a kid, but they're treating you're

520
00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:29,720
Speaker 1: you're putting adult situations and you just have to automatically

521
00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:32,400
Speaker 1: grow up overnight. Yeah, you do. And sometimes you don't

522
00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:36,600
Speaker 1: have a normal childhood. Yeah you try to solo artists too, Yes, exactly,

523
00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:40,920
Speaker 1: So you miss like normal developmental spaces in your life

524
00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:43,879
Speaker 1: because you're just pushed into an adult world. That's exactly it.

525
00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:46,080
Speaker 1: You don't get to go to school. Oftentimes you're tutoring

526
00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:48,000
Speaker 1: with someone in a trailer and you're you're just you're

527
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:49,880
Speaker 1: not you don't get to socialize with your friends. You're

528
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:53,240
Speaker 1: always off on set somewhere. So I was really glad

529
00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:56,119
Speaker 1: to hear that he wanted to focus on school. It's like,

530
00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:58,560
Speaker 1: I want to finish school. So now he's graduating school,

531
00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:01,040
Speaker 1: and now he's got this awesome it's like a young

532
00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:04,199
Speaker 1: Johnny Depp. He's got long hairs, this handsome, he's got

533
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:08,639
Speaker 1: a mustache now, yeah, and he's got this awesome just cool,

534
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:13,160
Speaker 1: just relaxed, energies, very spiritual and very soulful. He loves music,

535
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:15,400
Speaker 1: he loves to sing and play piano. He's a great

536
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:18,120
Speaker 1: art he's a great musician. So I'm happy for him

537
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:19,760
Speaker 1: now coming out of high school to be able to

538
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:22,440
Speaker 1: pursue all that. And you know how old were you

539
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,479
Speaker 1: when you got in saying sixteen? Sixteen? Okay? So I

540
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:27,920
Speaker 1: was like seventeen turning eighteen. And I always wanted that

541
00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:29,280
Speaker 1: for him because I was like, at least I had

542
00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:32,199
Speaker 1: a normal We had a somewhat yeah normal, it's my

543
00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:34,880
Speaker 1: junior in high school and you got to experience, yeah,

544
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:38,040
Speaker 1: your youth, that's exactly right. And I watched an interview

545
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:39,960
Speaker 1: one time with Jake Jillenhall and his parents are in

546
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:43,159
Speaker 1: the industry, and with Jake and Maggie, they were like,

547
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 1: we're gonna let you do this because they both wanted

548
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:47,840
Speaker 1: to be You're not gonna be sixteen to seventeen before

549
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:49,760
Speaker 1: you really go for it. And I think that's awesome

550
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:53,240
Speaker 1: because then you get a normal sense of childhood, which

551
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 1: also is a great as an artist. You your art

552
00:27:56,760 --> 00:28:00,399
Speaker 1: comes from living life exactly right and to late to

553
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:03,240
Speaker 1: people exactly know because it's not normal, it's not the

554
00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:06,280
Speaker 1: normal the path, Oh it's not so Yeah, to actually

555
00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:08,720
Speaker 1: relate to someone and know what they went through. I mean,

556
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:12,360
Speaker 1: I think is such a huge part of growing up. Yeah,

557
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:16,239
Speaker 1: that's exactly right, you know. So and being famous is

558
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:20,480
Speaker 1: this whole other thing that can be such a psychological

559
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:24,359
Speaker 1: oh yeah, you know, hurdle to overcome, especially at that

560
00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:26,720
Speaker 1: young age. So you see that with child stars a lot.

561
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:28,879
Speaker 1: And I think I was just really happy that he

562
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:30,840
Speaker 1: was like dad, I'd wanted to just focus on school

563
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:37,480
Speaker 1: and awesome, Okay, yeah, yeah, that's amazing, Yes, exactly, so

564
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:41,240
Speaker 1: so supportive of that and yeah, and actually, to be honest,

565
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:43,840
Speaker 1: it's it's it's part of the challenge of being in

566
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:46,440
Speaker 1: the entertainment industry was being a young dad. So I'd

567
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:48,480
Speaker 1: have to go do these long gigs and I'd have

568
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:50,600
Speaker 1: to go on the road. And the last time I

569
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 1: finished Wicked after that was two years in Wicked twenty eighteen,

570
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:57,720
Speaker 1: and I was like, I've been in I've been really

571
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:01,560
Speaker 1: only in entertainment for one he solid years. Now. I

572
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:03,560
Speaker 1: want to go back to the West Coast and I

573
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:07,000
Speaker 1: want to be home until my son finishes high school,

574
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:08,960
Speaker 1: because of course he comes to visit all the time

575
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:10,600
Speaker 1: as he did when you and I were in Hairspring,

576
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 1: but it's just not the same. You know, he's based

577
00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:15,600
Speaker 1: in California, and you know, when you're always on the

578
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:17,640
Speaker 1: road and you're living out of a suitcase and you're

579
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:19,400
Speaker 1: living at a hotels and you're taking gigs, it's like

580
00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:23,320
Speaker 1: very hard on that part of your life being a parent.

581
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 1: So actually recently, and I never thought I'd be in

582
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:30,160
Speaker 1: this place when I was younger, but I passed on

583
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:33,400
Speaker 1: a Broadway offer for the Max Martin musical Hello and

584
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:37,360
Speaker 1: Juliet and Juliet, and they wanted me for Anne Shakespeare.

585
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:39,480
Speaker 1: And I was like, this is an interesting fork in

586
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:42,800
Speaker 1: the road for me, because much younger I would have

587
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:45,840
Speaker 1: said absolutely a year in New York, let's do it.

588
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:49,400
Speaker 1: But with Lyric being in high school and finishing high school,

589
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:50,920
Speaker 1: I was like, I wrote them a beautiful letter and

590
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 1: I was like, thank you so much. Maybe maybe this

591
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 1: opportunity will come in the future and maybe it won't,

592
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:57,800
Speaker 1: but I'm really focused on just being a dad right now.

593
00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 1: And they were like, that's amazing. We support that, you know,

594
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 1: that's really awesome to respect. I get that because you know,

595
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:07,840
Speaker 1: now our kids are almost eighteen months old right now,

596
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:10,920
Speaker 1: and when they were born, because I was on tour

597
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:12,840
Speaker 1: with your boys and no town. Like we were doing

598
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:15,200
Speaker 1: that Pop two thousand tour, like all over the country,

599
00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:17,600
Speaker 1: and it wasn't like a normal tour where you went

600
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:19,200
Speaker 1: to all just the major cities and it was easy

601
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 1: to get back home. It was every Thursday you had

602
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:24,560
Speaker 1: to fly out to some random city that it took

603
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:26,600
Speaker 1: a whole day to get to do the show and

604
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:28,320
Speaker 1: then a whole day to get back. So you're talking

605
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:31,600
Speaker 1: about three four days a week you're away, Yeah, and

606
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:34,000
Speaker 1: it just gets to you. I Mean, the road is hard.

607
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:36,000
Speaker 1: So when these kids came, I'm like, I can't do

608
00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:38,160
Speaker 1: it anymore. Yeah, Like I can't be away from them.

609
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:41,400
Speaker 1: I want to be as present as possible, especially these

610
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:44,080
Speaker 1: first few years. So that's when I said no to

611
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:46,160
Speaker 1: the road, and we have been home ever since and

612
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:48,240
Speaker 1: we started this show, so it keeps us here in

613
00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 1: Los Angeles exactly. It's really just we're doing the things

614
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:53,400
Speaker 1: we want to do and it's really based on because

615
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:56,080
Speaker 1: I want to be with the kids as much as possible. Yeah,

616
00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 1: And people who were listening to their parents completely get

617
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:00,720
Speaker 1: that shift. It's like your life is never the same

618
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:04,960
Speaker 1: after you become a parent. It's completely different journey. The

619
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:07,600
Speaker 1: road ain't no place to raise a family. That's one

620
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 1: of the lyrics. It's like just a really hard lifestyle.

621
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:13,520
Speaker 1: And so that was a fork in the road for

622
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 1: me and I came I came back from Wicked, and

623
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 1: I really started focusing on I've worn a lot of

624
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 1: different hats over my life, but I launched a health

625
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 1: and wellness company we've been following called High Level, which

626
00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:27,520
Speaker 1: has been one of the most rewarding chapters of my life.

627
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 1: List Why did you want to do that? Because I

628
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 1: have you always been into fitness? Yeah? Yeah, always? I

629
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:35,560
Speaker 1: mean when you I think if for people listening to

630
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 1: it's like, can you think about what you were into

631
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:39,120
Speaker 1: when you were young? If you really want to find

632
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:41,160
Speaker 1: what you're passionate about, always go back to when you

633
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:46,160
Speaker 1: were little, before the world conditions, those first before your

634
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Speaker 1: parents and your teachers and your friends condition you. What

635
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Speaker 1: did you really love? It was always an astronaut. Yes,

636
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:55,880
Speaker 1: it always goes back. I still think you're going. I

637
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:58,560
Speaker 1: think you're going to space. Well, I think it's happening.

638
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:01,280
Speaker 1: Was learning it out there? Please bring me with you.

639
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:06,280
Speaker 1: I loved fitness, acting in music, those like three things

640
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Speaker 1: I was really obsessed with, like bodybuilders, and my dad

641
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 1: brought yeah up on my wall, Sylvester Stallone, and actually

642
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:18,239
Speaker 1: really loved fitness, and I thought, even though I had

643
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:21,320
Speaker 1: aspirations entertainment, I thought I would get into fitness and

644
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 1: get into shape and use that as a way to

645
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:25,960
Speaker 1: break into entertainment. So when I was fifteen, I hired

646
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:28,080
Speaker 1: a personal trainer, I got a job at World's Gym.

647
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 1: Got so obsessed with it, and you know, so it

648
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 1: was always just a part of me. And then I

649
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:38,960
Speaker 1: fell backwards very quickly, slip on a bananappeal, making the

650
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,480
Speaker 1: band just sling shot out of the small town, and

651
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, I'm in a boy band, right.

652
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 1: But Yeah, to answer your question, um, it's always been

653
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Speaker 1: in me. And if I feel like health and wellness

654
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Speaker 1: is something that was an anchor for me through the

655
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:56,960
Speaker 1: uncertainty of an entertainment career, because there's a lot of

656
00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 1: things out of your control in life, and for anybody

657
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:01,840
Speaker 1: that's ever sued art or making a living as an

658
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:05,080
Speaker 1: actor or a singer, an artist or a writer, there's

659
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:07,560
Speaker 1: a lot of uncertainty, and so health and wellness for

660
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:09,840
Speaker 1: me was always a way to really stay grounded. There's

661
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 1: things I can control and control. Yes, that's something I

662
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 1: can control. So I've been, you know, on a fitness journey,

663
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 1: health and wellness journey for twenty five years of my life.

664
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Speaker 1: I didn't get into you know, health and fitness till

665
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:25,480
Speaker 1: way later in life, in my thirties. For sure, I

666
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:28,480
Speaker 1: wish I would have established that habit as a young kid,

667
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 1: because I think as a teenager all those habits kind

668
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 1: of stick with you. Yeah, but yeah, it's after you

669
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:36,880
Speaker 1: and it's so hard for me to get motivated. Yeah,

670
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:39,800
Speaker 1: like going to a gym impossible. I will talk myself

671
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:41,040
Speaker 1: out of the acts. I'm like, I don't want to

672
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 1: fight the traffic. Oh, I have a meeting that starts

673
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 1: it too, Like you always have an excuse. I'll do

674
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 1: it next week. Yeah. But we do have this machine

675
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 1: at the house called the tonal, which just how do

676
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 1: you like that? I now work out every day? Yeah,

677
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:56,880
Speaker 1: and it is amazing. And yeah, the days that you skip,

678
00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 1: you don't feel the same. Yeah, if you just get

679
00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:01,360
Speaker 1: that workout done in space. Actually, I like to do

680
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 1: it earlier in the day just because you do feel

681
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 1: the difference. You do have so much more energy, you

682
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:09,560
Speaker 1: your your your brain feels like a better Yeah, you

683
00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 1: sleep better at night. But it's just like why can't

684
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 1: I just constantly remind myself of that? Because then I'll

685
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:16,880
Speaker 1: go two weeks without work it out, like God, what

686
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:19,399
Speaker 1: did I And then I get you know, I need

687
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:21,759
Speaker 1: the motivation if I if I'm working out and then

688
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 1: all of a sudden like I'm sore, right, then I'm

689
00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:25,719
Speaker 1: motivated to work out the next day. Yeah, and so

690
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:27,719
Speaker 1: like yeah, I see like oh I couldn't see an

691
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Speaker 1: ab Okay, then I'll work out forever just to know.

692
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Speaker 1: Then if I you know, miss a week and then

693
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:34,399
Speaker 1: I have zero as I'm like, you know what, I'm

694
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:37,040
Speaker 1: just gonna eat this pizza, and I get so unmotivated,

695
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 1: just do not want to work. You know, you've very

696
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:43,920
Speaker 1: easily got feel the right. So that's why I try

697
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 1: to help. It's not how you look, it's how you

698
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:48,359
Speaker 1: feel about yourself. Oh yeah, yes, weight loss will happen,

699
00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:50,960
Speaker 1: but it's about well being. You get a twelve hour

700
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 1: mood boost. This is actually backed by side. Did you

701
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 1: get a twelve hour mood boots every exercise session? So

702
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 1: that's why. I think a lot of people, maybe who've

703
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 1: stumbled upon Instagram in the last few years, think it's

704
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:06,320
Speaker 1: just oh, it's just about shirtless photos, or it's about vanity.

705
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 1: But I'm addicted to exercise because how it makes me feel.

706
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:12,680
Speaker 1: I look at it like I'm taking my antidepressant for

707
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:16,719
Speaker 1: the day. This is therapeutic, this is medicinal. You're gonna

708
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:19,359
Speaker 1: feel great, And that's what I focus on because it

709
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 1: is hard to stay motivated to put in the work.

710
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:24,120
Speaker 1: But I think the how you feel is the immediate

711
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:27,240
Speaker 1: reward versus Oh, I have to like take a progress

712
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 1: picture in a couple of weeks and see if I

713
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:30,960
Speaker 1: have those apps. Do you feel addicted to social media

714
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 1: showing off your body? I feel it has been an

715
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:40,239
Speaker 1: amazing tool for sharing this story because the world of

716
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:44,399
Speaker 1: social media, it's really hard, and I'm I'm I think

717
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:47,359
Speaker 1: moving forward to it's I've talked a lot about it.

718
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:50,240
Speaker 1: But in my twenties, I was like in a place

719
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 1: where a lot happened around the hairspray time, where my

720
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 1: relationship ended. I got dropped from my record label, MTV

721
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:01,960
Speaker 1: didn't pick up my show, and I was just really struggling, like,

722
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:04,359
Speaker 1: what's next in my life. I'm a single dad, and

723
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Speaker 1: I talked recently about just being in a very dark

724
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:12,360
Speaker 1: place like one like really starting having like bad thoughts.

725
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:14,879
Speaker 1: I'm like, this is not me, you know, I'm thinking suicidal.

726
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:17,880
Speaker 1: This is not me. And that was a return to

727
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 1: pouring myself into health and wellness. Had something else to

728
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:24,279
Speaker 1: fight for too, now that I'm a parent, and I

729
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 1: fell in love with it, So I do fall in

730
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:29,239
Speaker 1: love with talking about it. But it's hard to talk

731
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Speaker 1: about the mental and emotional benefits in a picture because

732
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:35,640
Speaker 1: a picture doesn't show that. So I do show a

733
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 1: lot of progress pictures and I use my own story,

734
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:41,800
Speaker 1: my own transformation. But I really want people to understand

735
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:43,479
Speaker 1: that where I come from, it is from a place

736
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 1: of battling depression and for leveling up in my mental health.

737
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:50,279
Speaker 1: And yes, the secondary benefit is you'll get in better

738
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:53,879
Speaker 1: and better physical shape. So that's really where I try

739
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:56,160
Speaker 1: to come from. But that's hard to show in a photo. Right.

740
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 1: So because I do love, I do obviously love social

741
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 1: media as a tool. I was late to the TikTok game.

742
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:06,839
Speaker 1: I'm trying to catch up. You're you're crushing the TikTok. Yeah,

743
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:09,239
Speaker 1: the first day. I'm like, I'm not joining another plat.

744
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:11,440
Speaker 1: There's no way I'm doing this. I refuse, I refuse.

745
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:14,400
Speaker 1: Do you enjoy it? I do. It's it's the platform

746
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:16,560
Speaker 1: that I enjoy the most, the most, okay, just because

747
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 1: you really get to show your personality. Yeah, you know, Yeah,

748
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 1: it's entertaining. It's fun. It's entertaining. Like Instagram's great, you know,

749
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 1: you get to see pictures and everything. But something about

750
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:27,759
Speaker 1: TikTok it just makes me laugh. Yes for now, yeah,

751
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:29,919
Speaker 1: until it gets evil, you know, and I'm sure it will,

752
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:33,400
Speaker 1: but right now it's making me laugh totally. And I

753
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 1: hope you know, I don't know. I know there's a

754
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:37,040
Speaker 1: lot about TikTok and the news right now, but I

755
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:40,560
Speaker 1: love I love all of these platforms because it's if

756
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:44,239
Speaker 1: you love being on stage, it's this Southern avenue. You

757
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 1: get to be in control of it, and that's you shine.

758
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 1: I mean, you really shine on TikTok. They're so great

759
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:51,200
Speaker 1: on it. I want to I want to laugh about this.

760
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 1: UM shout out to BuzzFeed because they they just this

761
00:37:57,120 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 1: has been a very prestigious honor. Oh just crownded me

762
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 1: the of thirst track. I know, Yeah, thank you very much.

763
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:05,960
Speaker 1: It was I've been working. Thank you to my manager,

764
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 1: thank you to my agents, my mom, thank you mom,

765
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 1: thank you Grandma. I mean at fan base. Now, yeah,

766
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:14,279
Speaker 1: you know, it's a tool and the thing that's a

767
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:16,359
Speaker 1: crazy thing to me about TikTok and everyone's like it's

768
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:19,920
Speaker 1: stealing your Dada's stealing your data like Facebook and Instagram.

769
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:25,799
Speaker 1: Yeah you've like gone online at all your data. They're

770
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:29,720
Speaker 1: actually just nervous that it's not our own country stealing

771
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:32,480
Speaker 1: your data, and it might be another country. But everyone's

772
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 1: stealing your data. That's what's crazy to me about it.

773
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:37,480
Speaker 1: So I hope TikTok stays around because I'm just getting started.

774
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 1: I'm just getting warmed up on the top. It's not

775
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:42,319
Speaker 1: going to go anywhere. It'll either be sold, you know,

776
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:45,239
Speaker 1: to a company here or whatever. It's it's not going anywhere. Yeah,

777
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:48,920
Speaker 1: you know, it's I feel everything's been as transparent as

778
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:50,440
Speaker 1: it can be. But yeah, you know, but I do

779
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:53,400
Speaker 1: agree we need to total an eye out. It's a tool,

780
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 1: especially for entrepreneurs. And I have to say Lance and

781
00:38:57,320 --> 00:39:01,840
Speaker 1: Michael you are both amazing entrepreneurs. You have incredible actually

782
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 1: of anyone I can think of in pop culture. I've

783
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:08,480
Speaker 1: always going back from the days of you doing your

784
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:13,320
Speaker 1: own movie with Joey and always doing things going to space.

785
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 1: Now you've got Rocos, You've got You're in the nightclub

786
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:22,480
Speaker 1: Space heart like you. So as an entrepreneur, I think

787
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:25,160
Speaker 1: it's an amazing tool to share your story with other

788
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:28,560
Speaker 1: people and not have as many gate keepers telling you

789
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 1: what you have to promote. That's what I love about

790
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 1: social media, especially for people who are in an entrepreneurial space.

791
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:38,919
Speaker 1: And you've always crushed that game we're trying, you know, Yeah,

792
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 1: just comes natural. I guessing a lot of Noodles's sling,

793
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:47,319
Speaker 1: lots of just like auditions, same thing in entrepreneurship. It's

794
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 1: like you get so many doors slammed in your face,

795
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 1: but you just got to keep keep just keep going.

796
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:08,600
Speaker 1: All right, ohtown, very quickly, we all know how you

797
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:11,439
Speaker 1: met on the ABC show making the band mister Loop

798
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:16,040
Speaker 1: Perlman you know was involved very quickly. How how did

799
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 1: you decide to audition for something like this? So I

800
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:22,440
Speaker 1: back to this story of being a kid from a

801
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:26,920
Speaker 1: very small town I do Greece, and I had a

802
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:30,120
Speaker 1: really cool opportunity that this manager who had moved from

803
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:33,000
Speaker 1: Colorado to the small town she was started in an

804
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 1: acting studio. She saw me in it and she's like,

805
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:37,120
Speaker 1: I want to represent you and send you on auditions.

806
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:40,160
Speaker 1: So started going on auditions. Making the band comes through.

807
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:41,880
Speaker 1: We didn't really think at the time it was a

808
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:45,440
Speaker 1: quote reality show because reality hadn't really taken off was

809
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:48,239
Speaker 1: the Osbourne. It was just like at the time, at

810
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 1: the time of making the band, it was real world.

811
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Speaker 1: That was really what it was. And so took a

812
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:57,800
Speaker 1: shot to fly to Vegas because it was a crossed

813
00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:01,360
Speaker 1: the nation talent search very much set up the model

814
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 1: for American Idol in the Voice, but which by the way,

815
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 1: I'm so glad that I auditioned for making the band

816
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:10,239
Speaker 1: and didn't have to for American Idolis Voice because it's

817
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:13,200
Speaker 1: become such a juggernaut and now it's more of a

818
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:16,120
Speaker 1: TV show Like I feel like nowadays, it doesn't seem

819
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:18,720
Speaker 1: to spawn has meant as much longevity with the artist.

820
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 1: So long story short, flute to Vegas for that audition

821
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:26,239
Speaker 1: instead of La because I felt like LA was going

822
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:29,440
Speaker 1: to be a really crowded place. Yeah, totally so and

823
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:31,960
Speaker 1: weird because now full circle, I'm living in Vegas. But

824
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:34,600
Speaker 1: I've flute to Vegas an auditioned for that, and then

825
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:38,840
Speaker 1: you are immediately thrust into this world of reality TV

826
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:42,480
Speaker 1: meets the creation of a boy band and meeting Lou

827
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:47,320
Speaker 1: And what that experience was like was, you know, being

828
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:53,800
Speaker 1: there was already these boy band super bands, super groups,

829
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:59,359
Speaker 1: boy band Mania in Sync and Backstreet. So what makes

830
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 1: Outown different is that it's a television series. That's really

831
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 1: where we, I think, came in in a bubble that

832
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 1: was kind of already and I think that's what really

833
00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:11,720
Speaker 1: changed entertainment in pop music. Everyone that I know after

834
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:15,280
Speaker 1: you guys started, all had a television element one direction.

835
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:20,480
Speaker 1: All these groups they came, they all came from television

836
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:23,799
Speaker 1: at American Idol, the Voice TV. It's like, that's the

837
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 1: element that now all our musicians have behind them exactly exactly, Um,

838
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 1: the Nickelodeon Band, Um, Big Time Rush, Thank You, exactly.

839
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:37,760
Speaker 1: It was that emerging world of television meets boy band

840
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 1: supergroup and so but the thing is, it wasn't the

841
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:44,280
Speaker 1: same experience you had where you're going over to Europe

842
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:47,279
Speaker 1: to prove that this could work again. You know. It

843
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:52,400
Speaker 1: wasn't every radio station yeah, and every radio tour, Yeah, exactly.

844
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:55,400
Speaker 1: So O Town was really like assembled. It was a

845
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 1: different situation and you can't actually think of more of

846
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:02,240
Speaker 1: an over night's success than the story of US. True,

847
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:06,880
Speaker 1: it was an overnight success, and largely because Backstreet and

848
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:08,719
Speaker 1: in Sync had already paved the way for that, and

849
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:10,759
Speaker 1: then we have this unique model of a TV show.

850
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:14,759
Speaker 1: So but it was it was a manufactured situation, and

851
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:18,839
Speaker 1: I think because of that we have there's definitely we

852
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:22,160
Speaker 1: shared bonds through that time. But it's not like you're again.

853
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:24,440
Speaker 1: It's not like you're in the garage and you're like,

854
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:27,239
Speaker 1: maybe we'll make it someday. We're all working together to

855
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 1: try to get signed. It's like, bam, you're just thrust

856
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 1: into the spotlight and film. You're on TV and bam,

857
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:33,759
Speaker 1: it's a hit. Yeah, And that must be tricky, like

858
00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:36,840
Speaker 1: compared like as to Win Sync, where they you know,

859
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:39,759
Speaker 1: eventually they came together, but they spent years just trying,

860
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:42,040
Speaker 1: just trying to get a record deal. So they really

861
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:43,920
Speaker 1: started from the bottom. And now you guys are just

862
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:46,759
Speaker 1: on a TV show. Now you're you're you know, your

863
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:49,319
Speaker 1: hit songs. It comes out and it's immediately a hit

864
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:51,759
Speaker 1: because you have this whole package of you being on TV. Yeah,

865
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:54,160
Speaker 1: and you're forced to like be like in this brotherhood

866
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 1: with people you kind of just met, yeah, and didn't

867
00:43:57,000 --> 00:44:01,359
Speaker 1: necessarily you know, it does naturally bond with jel with though,

868
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:04,520
Speaker 1: like it must be just a complicuch more complicated dynamic.

869
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:07,560
Speaker 1: It was a very complicated dynamic because we all came

870
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:10,600
Speaker 1: from different places in the country. We were all thrust together.

871
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 1: And then the show making the band become syndicated internationally.

872
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:17,399
Speaker 1: So the first time we go international, fans are waiting

873
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:19,759
Speaker 1: in the airport because the show already was a hit.

874
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:24,200
Speaker 1: So it was just a completely different but also was

875
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:29,839
Speaker 1: a was a shorter was a shorter life of that band.

876
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:32,640
Speaker 1: It was a window that was closing exactly. Yeah, pop

877
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:37,040
Speaker 1: music as a whole was changing, especially pop groups exactly.

878
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:39,359
Speaker 1: It was they were moving on to the next next era.

879
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:42,320
Speaker 1: That's exactly, That's exactly right. So we did two albums

880
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:44,919
Speaker 1: and we had an awesome string of hits during that time.

881
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 1: But to put it in perspective, it was like three

882
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:51,799
Speaker 1: and a half years. What was your favorite song from Nothing? Yeah,

883
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 1: that's us of that which was originally a Westlife song, Yeah,

884
00:44:57,239 --> 00:45:00,680
Speaker 1: and they decided not to include it, which and you're

885
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:03,160
Speaker 1: both which right, I don't. Later they covered it, so

886
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:05,960
Speaker 1: now they've actually released their version. But that was a

887
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 1: that was a big that was a big win for

888
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:10,400
Speaker 1: us because we got that track and then that was

889
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:13,480
Speaker 1: a number one song that summer and just I mean honestly,

890
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:15,919
Speaker 1: and then working with Lou. For those that have seen

891
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:22,400
Speaker 1: the boy band were plug watch that documentary best best

892
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 1: documentary on Lou prom and that you can ever watch,

893
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 1: and um really tells that story well. Of like also

894
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:30,840
Speaker 1: what we dealt with with Lou, which was like everybody's

895
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:33,000
Speaker 1: suing him and everyone's like this guy, don't get involved

896
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:34,919
Speaker 1: with that has been so weird. You're like, wait, because

897
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 1: I remember talking to you guys in New York at

898
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:39,759
Speaker 1: mug Shots on First Avenue when I first met all

899
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:42,920
Speaker 1: you guys, and I wanted to warn you because that

900
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 1: was when we were really going through all of our

901
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:47,080
Speaker 1: crap with Lou, and I'm like, I gotta tell these

902
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:50,359
Speaker 1: guys what's up. And I just wanted to make sure,

903
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 1: I mean, in WHI y'all already kind of knew. I mean,

904
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:54,719
Speaker 1: y'all had an inkling of what was going on, but

905
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:57,279
Speaker 1: I just needed to just see y'all face to face

906
00:45:57,320 --> 00:45:59,879
Speaker 1: and be like, okay, guys, just please watch your back.

907
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:01,880
Speaker 1: Thank you. This is what we went through, is what

908
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:05,200
Speaker 1: our contract said. I'm guarantee your contracts as the same

909
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 1: exact thing. Yeah, just watch your back, yes, yes, and

910
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 1: thank you for thinking that way, because there was a

911
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:14,560
Speaker 1: lot of people warning us and twenty twenties doing a

912
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:18,640
Speaker 1: you know, a special on lou taking advantage of all

913
00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:21,240
Speaker 1: these bands, and we were in his office at Transcon

914
00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:23,880
Speaker 1: and he'd say, I have to go because the FBI's here. Yeah.

915
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:26,080
Speaker 1: Like that was like you know what I mean, or

916
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:27,719
Speaker 1: it would he'd be like, do you see me in

917
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:30,440
Speaker 1: that picture with all my airplanes on the runway And

918
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:32,520
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, those are seven forty seven He's like, no,

919
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 1: those are just model airplanes on fishing string. Like he

920
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:37,920
Speaker 1: was a con man. He was great up con man

921
00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:40,759
Speaker 1: and at the same time, wouldn't have gotten that opportunity

922
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:43,239
Speaker 1: in my life without him so systemtically so weird. Double

923
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:45,960
Speaker 1: edged sword is so it's hard to explain. Yeah, it

924
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:48,440
Speaker 1: really is hard to explain because on one side he

925
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:51,279
Speaker 1: did great things for all of us, great things. Then

926
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:54,759
Speaker 1: on the other side he did horrible exactly. Yeah, and

927
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:58,239
Speaker 1: then the trajectory of a guy going solo from a

928
00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 1: boy band. That was also some thing MTV was interested

929
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:03,719
Speaker 1: in following. So I think I was always really excited

930
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:07,200
Speaker 1: to go and show prove myself outside of Otown because

931
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:09,759
Speaker 1: Otown wasn't the type of music I grew up listening to.

932
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:12,840
Speaker 1: Although I have a funny story to share with you,

933
00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:16,520
Speaker 1: the only thing I've ever shoplifted in my life, kids

934
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:22,200
Speaker 1: Don't was the Ensync album. Let me get a little

935
00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:25,719
Speaker 1: context here, Owe me a penny. I worked at a

936
00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:28,360
Speaker 1: place called Shop Go in the electronics department, which is

937
00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 1: like a Target, same thing as Target red shirts name tag,

938
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:34,680
Speaker 1: but I worked in the electronics department, so when CDs

939
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:37,239
Speaker 1: would get damaged, we'd have to take them into the

940
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:40,239
Speaker 1: back area and then ship them off somewhere. And I

941
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:42,799
Speaker 1: was like, this is already damaged. I went up to

942
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:45,480
Speaker 1: this back alley behind the store and it was like

943
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 1: I kicked it under a dumpster or something, and I

944
00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 1: rode my bike at the time everywhere it's such a nerd.

945
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:52,920
Speaker 1: So I waited two hours after the store closed. I

946
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:55,520
Speaker 1: came back at midnight and I go fish out the

947
00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 1: Ensync album from underneath. From underneath this like wooden Palette

948
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 1: or something, and then love that album so much and

949
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:05,359
Speaker 1: then appropriately tearing up My Heart is the song I

950
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 1: auditioned with for making the band. Oh no way, that's

951
00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:11,440
Speaker 1: my favorite. So that yeah, that's amazing. Yeah, look at

952
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:13,719
Speaker 1: that full circle happening right, like you leave the church

953
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:19,120
Speaker 1: and it's enter a life of crime. And this too,

954
00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:21,680
Speaker 1: by the way, I don't I don't want to promote that,

955
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:25,319
Speaker 1: but I mean, look, kids do stupid things. Yeah, exactly, Yeah,

956
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:29,200
Speaker 1: it was six music is worth stealing, okay, exactly yeah,

957
00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:31,719
Speaker 1: And we didn't make money off that album. That was

958
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:34,880
Speaker 1: all a little promos exactly exact still as many of

959
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:37,560
Speaker 1: the first album as you want, exactly all right, real quickly.

960
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:40,520
Speaker 1: So what made y'all decide to call it quits with

961
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 1: the group? Like, what was that moment? Yeah? That was

962
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:47,919
Speaker 1: That was a complicated decision to make, and in part

963
00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:51,600
Speaker 1: was also because MTV. We had done three seasons with MTV,

964
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:54,960
Speaker 1: and there was like we started filming a fourth season

965
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:56,719
Speaker 1: and then they were like, we just don't feel the

966
00:48:56,760 --> 00:48:59,680
Speaker 1: band really is into it anymore. We'd been on camera

967
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:02,560
Speaker 1: for three years of our lives. Everyone was kind of

968
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:04,759
Speaker 1: hiding from the cameras at that point in time, so

969
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:07,919
Speaker 1: they were like, we're gonna call it. And then at

970
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:11,160
Speaker 1: the same time, our record label didn't love that our

971
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:14,400
Speaker 1: TV show was going away, so Clive Davis decides to

972
00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:19,080
Speaker 1: drop the band. So MTV drops the show, Clive Davis

973
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:21,279
Speaker 1: drops the band, and then the question is like, what

974
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:25,000
Speaker 1: do you do next? And a lot of mixed feelings

975
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:26,960
Speaker 1: about that. But at the time, as I remember it,

976
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:29,239
Speaker 1: everybody was excited to take a break and just just

977
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:31,080
Speaker 1: kind of do their own thing for a little while.

978
00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:34,520
Speaker 1: I moved right away to LA and I started working

979
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:39,200
Speaker 1: on music, and I signed a deal with Universal through

980
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:43,120
Speaker 1: Blackground Records, and MTV caught wind of that, and they're like, oh,

981
00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:45,080
Speaker 1: Ashley's doing a solo thing. Let's bring him in and

982
00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:47,440
Speaker 1: see if he wants This is now the emerging world

983
00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:53,799
Speaker 1: of the Newlyweds with Nick and Jessica, and speaking of entrepreneurs,

984
00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:58,200
Speaker 1: Jessica with her shoes unbelievable, the camera pans down. I'm

985
00:49:58,200 --> 00:50:06,080
Speaker 1: wearing her stilettos right now. Um, the Osbourne's right. So

986
00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:09,160
Speaker 1: they're like, would you want to do Um, I'm getting

987
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:12,200
Speaker 1: I get engaged. I'm going to be a dad. Uh.

988
00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:14,879
Speaker 1: So they're like, this is great TV. You know, you're

989
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:17,799
Speaker 1: Beyonce is pregnant and you're launching You're trying to go

990
00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:19,680
Speaker 1: solo from the band. So then it's this whole other

991
00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:22,520
Speaker 1: reality show that I do, and it was just again

992
00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:24,719
Speaker 1: like another three years of my life. But by the

993
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:26,399
Speaker 1: end of that, I kind of fell out of love

994
00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:29,319
Speaker 1: with the music industry. That was just kind of end

995
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:31,279
Speaker 1: to that. Yeah, I fell out of love with it.

996
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:33,880
Speaker 1: And I also too felt like I was like always

997
00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:36,279
Speaker 1: finding the record label as to like, what were the

998
00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:38,520
Speaker 1: songs that we're going to be released? And you have

999
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:40,960
Speaker 1: no control and you look at the contracts You're like, oh, yeah,

1000
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:44,240
Speaker 1: I don't really have any control over this. I'm the singer,

1001
00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:46,399
Speaker 1: but I don't really have a lot of control over

1002
00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:50,360
Speaker 1: the destiny of my career. It's just other people making decisions.

1003
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:53,480
Speaker 1: And so that was when the Hairspray opportunity came, and

1004
00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:56,319
Speaker 1: that for me was also like I don't really want

1005
00:50:56,360 --> 00:50:59,000
Speaker 1: to even do music anymore. I want to go do Broadway.

1006
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:01,279
Speaker 1: And that was a fork in the road at that

1007
00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:03,560
Speaker 1: point in my life where I was like, didn't even

1008
00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:06,360
Speaker 1: have an inkling of a desire to keep doing music

1009
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:09,200
Speaker 1: industry stuff. After that album cycle, although I did get

1010
00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:11,440
Speaker 1: to work with Max Martin. It did have an awesome

1011
00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:13,520
Speaker 1: song called let You Go. It did have a great

1012
00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:16,080
Speaker 1: album cycle with soundtrack to Your Life, and I love

1013
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:19,359
Speaker 1: that album. But I just felt like I was constantly like,

1014
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:23,839
Speaker 1: I just can't be in control of these marketing decisions

1015
00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:25,880
Speaker 1: and a lot of things that I felt weren't like

1016
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:27,920
Speaker 1: handled the way I would have done them, and you

1017
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:30,560
Speaker 1: just give up as an artist, you give up so

1018
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:32,640
Speaker 1: much control. So that's why I was kind of ready

1019
00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:34,360
Speaker 1: to say goodbye to that, closed the door on that

1020
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:37,719
Speaker 1: chapter of my life and then go do Hairspray with

1021
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:41,400
Speaker 1: Lance as Corny Collins. I had aspirations to act, so

1022
00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:44,560
Speaker 1: actually turned down three big movie roles while I was

1023
00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:47,239
Speaker 1: in Otown because everyone said, you can't do that. You

1024
00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:50,040
Speaker 1: can't take away time from the band to go be

1025
00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:51,960
Speaker 1: in a movie and you share what the movies were.

1026
00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:54,800
Speaker 1: I can. I've never talked about it. One was actually

1027
00:51:55,520 --> 00:51:59,400
Speaker 1: launched the career of an actor named Mike Vogel, who's

1028
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:02,360
Speaker 1: Mike Vogel. It was his first role. It would have

1029
00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:04,239
Speaker 1: been my first role that I had to pass on.

1030
00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:06,600
Speaker 1: It was a movie called The Grind with Paramount Pictures

1031
00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:09,279
Speaker 1: with skateboarding movie and a band and all these guys

1032
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:12,520
Speaker 1: in it, and it was just just like boom, like

1033
00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:14,520
Speaker 1: this is going to happen in the band's like, no,

1034
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:16,440
Speaker 1: you can't take three months off to go to a movie.

1035
00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:19,600
Speaker 1: Then I booked the part opposite Channing Tatum in a

1036
00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:21,759
Speaker 1: really big movie, and I was like, no, you can't

1037
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:23,600
Speaker 1: do that, and it was like, oh man. My agent

1038
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:26,840
Speaker 1: at the time was just like, You're the only actor

1039
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:29,560
Speaker 1: I've ever represented that keeps turning down these opportunities. And

1040
00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:31,279
Speaker 1: I was like, well, I've signed my life away to

1041
00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:33,319
Speaker 1: being in a boy band, and so I can't have

1042
00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:35,640
Speaker 1: a first priority. I have a first priority, right. But

1043
00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:37,600
Speaker 1: then when I did finally have a chance to do

1044
00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:41,560
Speaker 1: a couple movies, I realized it's not as exciting because

1045
00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:44,520
Speaker 1: the live element. What we get to do live as

1046
00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:47,319
Speaker 1: a pop star or on Broadway, it's so much more

1047
00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:51,320
Speaker 1: exciting being all hurry up and wait. That's what it is.

1048
00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:55,760
Speaker 1: You're sitting in a trailer for hours of your life,

1049
00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:58,440
Speaker 1: maybe weeks of your life. You get these little brief

1050
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:01,239
Speaker 1: moments it's like it's hurry up and wait. I love

1051
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:03,560
Speaker 1: live And that's what I realized about doing a couple

1052
00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:06,240
Speaker 1: movies even that I like, if I were to step

1053
00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:08,760
Speaker 1: back into doing something again, it would be a Broadway

1054
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:12,040
Speaker 1: show maybe even and Juliet somewhere way down the line.

1055
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:15,040
Speaker 1: But that's where I really thrive is in the live

1056
00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:18,000
Speaker 1: element of of of being a performer. You are a

1057
00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:20,160
Speaker 1: great live Thank you. All right, Let's get to some

1058
00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:22,919
Speaker 1: fan questions before we let you go. Yes, um, what's

1059
00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:27,720
Speaker 1: your dream Broadway role? My dream Broadway role? Elmo thirty

1060
00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:33,080
Speaker 1: nine oh seven, Magic Mike, Magic make Yeah maybe Magic Mike.

1061
00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:36,920
Speaker 1: You should totally do Magic. Yes, the Magic multi Vegas

1062
00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:41,719
Speaker 1: is incredible. Yeah it is. I've seen it three times now.

1063
00:53:42,040 --> 00:53:45,719
Speaker 1: It's just the dancing and singing everything. I want to

1064
00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:48,520
Speaker 1: dance again. Yeah. That's the thing about Like, even when

1065
00:53:48,520 --> 00:53:50,160
Speaker 1: I did my solo stuff was more of a pop

1066
00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:52,000
Speaker 1: rock thing. I'm on a guitar, I didn't get to

1067
00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:53,920
Speaker 1: dance as much. I love to dance. I want to

1068
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:58,399
Speaker 1: dance again. That's why I say Magic done that one?

1069
00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:05,319
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, naked voice singing, Yeah, what's the what's the

1070
00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:12,319
Speaker 1: poetry of the penis? That's actually my new choice. Yeah, Okay,

1071
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:14,600
Speaker 1: we can add a lot of choreography and the um.

1072
00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:16,560
Speaker 1: This one has already been asked Irish the pin of

1073
00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:19,719
Speaker 1: what's your favorite Ohtown song? All or nothing? Um? But

1074
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:22,840
Speaker 1: what was your favorite Ohtown song that was not a single? Mmmm?

1075
00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:27,200
Speaker 1: It's a great question. Favorite Otown song that was not

1076
00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:31,640
Speaker 1: a single? I think Shy Girl off the first album.

1077
00:54:31,719 --> 00:54:35,439
Speaker 1: Then oh yeah, catch sing a little bit shir it's

1078
00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:42,000
Speaker 1: written on a face out of place, very catchy song,

1079
00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:47,880
Speaker 1: very poppy, very poppy. That between that maybe and um girl,

1080
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:50,680
Speaker 1: a song called Girl on the first album which was

1081
00:54:50,680 --> 00:54:53,480
Speaker 1: also really catchy. All right, what's the best health tip

1082
00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:57,319
Speaker 1: that you've ever received from? It's not sobid? What's the

1083
00:54:57,360 --> 00:55:01,720
Speaker 1: best health tip I've ever received? Ye? One of because

1084
00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:03,719
Speaker 1: there's so many of them. One of the best health

1085
00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:10,160
Speaker 1: tip I've ever received, Um, I think it's man, there's

1086
00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:14,440
Speaker 1: so many. The best health tip I've ever received would be,

1087
00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:22,120
Speaker 1: don't work out for the physical results. Start noticing the

1088
00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:24,759
Speaker 1: difference in your mental and emotional health. Workout because you

1089
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:27,440
Speaker 1: want to feel better, and you'll fall in love with

1090
00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:30,360
Speaker 1: feeling better, and then you'll be consistent at it, and

1091
00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:33,160
Speaker 1: then the physical results will come. And right, skip leg

1092
00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:38,000
Speaker 1: day and don't and never skip leg never, Which is

1093
00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:40,880
Speaker 1: the best cardio you'll ever have god, just ten squats.

1094
00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:43,319
Speaker 1: I'm like, what the hell? I know that's because your

1095
00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:46,600
Speaker 1: butt's the biggest muscle in your But I've never met ah.

1096
00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:49,680
Speaker 1: I used to got such great legs, being you know,

1097
00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:52,880
Speaker 1: a dancer. Right now, I have huge muscular legs that

1098
00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:55,440
Speaker 1: I have not used them in twenty years. I have little,

1099
00:55:55,560 --> 00:56:01,120
Speaker 1: dainty legs, skinny legs. If people come see me in

1100
00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:03,960
Speaker 1: Puppetry of the Penis, I get to show off third leg,

1101
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:07,319
Speaker 1: third leg exactly. So he's been we're doing a lot.

1102
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:09,239
Speaker 1: I've been prepping for that. Well, you better prepare that

1103
00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:10,960
Speaker 1: for our frost of Tips cruise, because you're gonna be

1104
00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:13,160
Speaker 1: in charge of the talth and fitness and the talents

1105
00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:19,560
Speaker 1: of Puppetry of the Penis. That's going to be closing show. Lady,

1106
00:56:20,480 --> 00:56:23,399
Speaker 1: to hear that, BuzzFeed and dudes, all right, the last

1107
00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:26,240
Speaker 1: one here for Jay Marie. He do you have any

1108
00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:31,839
Speaker 1: regrets from your reality show? M Yes, I do. I do.

1109
00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:36,200
Speaker 1: I regret not being an executive producer and having some

1110
00:56:36,719 --> 00:56:40,719
Speaker 1: having some final edit. Yes, yes, and you know this

1111
00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:43,479
Speaker 1: because you I would never do a reality show without

1112
00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:45,880
Speaker 1: having final edit exactly, is why I have never had

1113
00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:48,160
Speaker 1: a reality show. Yeah, I'll never give that away. That's

1114
00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:50,600
Speaker 1: what the Kardashians they when they first made Contraction is

1115
00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:53,080
Speaker 1: so big. The very first contract, we have final edit.

1116
00:56:53,239 --> 00:56:54,920
Speaker 1: That's why you got That's why such a great show.

1117
00:56:54,920 --> 00:56:57,360
Speaker 1: And I want to give credit to Matt Andate that

1118
00:56:57,440 --> 00:57:01,120
Speaker 1: produced there and back. They produced lot of amazing stuff.

1119
00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:03,920
Speaker 1: They came from the Osbournes they came from. But to

1120
00:57:04,080 --> 00:57:07,760
Speaker 1: not have a final say is really as an artist.

1121
00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:10,759
Speaker 1: That's what I realized with all these big label record deals.

1122
00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:12,560
Speaker 1: I did say, you don't have a second Yeah, you're

1123
00:57:12,560 --> 00:57:15,800
Speaker 1: putting your hands in another your life. Reality television is

1124
00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:18,800
Speaker 1: opposite from scripted. So you shoot a show and then

1125
00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:21,320
Speaker 1: you write the show after you take all these bits

1126
00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:23,600
Speaker 1: and pieces of what you shot, and you you form

1127
00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:25,600
Speaker 1: the story the way you want it to be. Yeah,

1128
00:57:25,640 --> 00:57:28,080
Speaker 1: you can take this little conversation from five days ago

1129
00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:30,280
Speaker 1: and put it in this conversation that happened just yesterday

1130
00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:33,800
Speaker 1: and it's a completely different conversation. Oh yeah, you can

1131
00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:38,520
Speaker 1: transform people's personalities in the editing room. Yeah, so you

1132
00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:40,800
Speaker 1: know that better than anybody. I believe it. Now. Now

1133
00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:43,360
Speaker 1: we have some okay, we have some J fourteen. Yeahay,

1134
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Speaker 1: I think you saw this post, I have a right here.

1135
00:57:46,360 --> 00:57:49,320
Speaker 1: We always like to put a teen magazine questionnaire in

1136
00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:51,320
Speaker 1: front of us. I want to see I want to

1137
00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:54,400
Speaker 1: see if your answers match these answers. So this is

1138
00:57:54,440 --> 00:57:56,439
Speaker 1: from probably two thousand and two, two thousand and three,

1139
00:57:57,000 --> 00:58:00,640
Speaker 1: So twenty years ago. J fourteen interviewed you and said,

1140
00:58:00,840 --> 00:58:05,160
Speaker 1: what is your most ticklish spot? Oh? Can we go

1141
00:58:05,240 --> 00:58:08,240
Speaker 1: like X rated with this now? Because it's not you

1142
00:58:08,320 --> 00:58:12,440
Speaker 1: do it? Can we can? Let's go for it? What

1143
00:58:12,520 --> 00:58:14,680
Speaker 1: are the rules on this podcast? The ladies want to

1144
00:58:14,680 --> 00:58:19,000
Speaker 1: know every the rules. Wow, we're adults now, okay, we

1145
00:58:19,040 --> 00:58:23,440
Speaker 1: are adults. Let's we gotta go taint. I knew, I

1146
00:58:23,640 --> 00:58:29,640
Speaker 1: knew as I did taint. Okay, it's it's tickles. J

1147
00:58:30,240 --> 00:58:33,440
Speaker 1: J fourteen printed that back in the They printed some

1148
00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:37,640
Speaker 1: pretty cringey things they yeah, uh so yeah, and ask

1149
00:58:37,720 --> 00:58:40,720
Speaker 1: some really cringey things like they asked Jac what kind

1150
00:58:40,760 --> 00:58:43,080
Speaker 1: of animal do you kiss like? And he said, I

1151
00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:46,440
Speaker 1: do Jac's voice. This is not his voice, it's just

1152
00:58:46,560 --> 00:58:49,960
Speaker 1: my boy band or voice. Oh hey girl, I'd have

1153
00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:52,680
Speaker 1: to say a fish, very open and wet. That's a

1154
00:58:52,680 --> 00:58:56,400
Speaker 1: good choice. They are kissing fish. Thanks for the fact

1155
00:58:57,360 --> 00:59:00,560
Speaker 1: there are you know, there's kissing fish. Right, Hey girl, Okay,

1156
00:59:00,560 --> 00:59:03,320
Speaker 1: I have another question. Finish this sentence. I love I

1157
00:59:03,440 --> 00:59:08,000
Speaker 1: love the smell of I love the smell of coffee.

1158
00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:10,600
Speaker 1: I can't live without my coffee. I mean me too.

1159
00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:12,600
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm kind of a new coffee guys. Right.

1160
00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:14,439
Speaker 1: Just in the last time, I would say eight years,

1161
00:59:14,640 --> 00:59:17,520
Speaker 1: never drank coffe until I'm at this one. How I

1162
00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:20,000
Speaker 1: live on coffee. Same for me recently in the last

1163
00:59:20,040 --> 00:59:22,200
Speaker 1: like eight to nine ten. I'll just do tea decalf too.

1164
00:59:22,200 --> 00:59:23,680
Speaker 1: I just like the taste of it. Oh wow, Okay,

1165
00:59:23,720 --> 00:59:26,000
Speaker 1: Well that wasn't your answer. Okay, that was not your

1166
00:59:26,040 --> 00:59:29,200
Speaker 1: answer back then by voice. I love the smell of

1167
00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:32,200
Speaker 1: a girl's hair. Every girl's hair smells different. There's usually

1168
00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:36,760
Speaker 1: a perfume scent that I don't have. There's a perfume

1169
00:59:36,800 --> 00:59:40,720
Speaker 1: scent that you don't have. These ladies, my god, and

1170
00:59:40,800 --> 00:59:42,560
Speaker 1: this is my favorite. Wait, do you still like to

1171
00:59:42,560 --> 00:59:45,360
Speaker 1: smell girl's hair? Um? I feel like that's like a

1172
00:59:45,480 --> 00:59:48,360
Speaker 1: slightly it's about he goes around if you just watch him,

1173
00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:50,080
Speaker 1: if anyone sees him in public, he likes a sniff

1174
00:59:50,080 --> 00:59:53,880
Speaker 1: woman's hair. Like I was a little it's a little bold.

1175
00:59:53,960 --> 00:59:56,360
Speaker 1: That was a bold answer. Right, And your last question,

1176
00:59:56,440 --> 00:59:58,920
Speaker 1: are you a good kisser? Am I a good kisser?

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00:59:59,600 --> 01:00:01,480
Speaker 1: What did you say? And twenty years ago? Well, I

1178
01:00:01,520 --> 01:00:06,280
Speaker 1: know I'm biased. I've had some more practice, including Broadway

1179
01:00:06,360 --> 01:00:09,240
Speaker 1: roles where you get paid to kiss. Yeah, I gotta

1180
01:00:09,320 --> 01:00:12,600
Speaker 1: go with better now than ever before. Well what did

1181
01:00:12,640 --> 01:00:16,360
Speaker 1: he said? And he said he gave a nice long answer.

1182
01:00:18,720 --> 01:00:21,840
Speaker 1: I went deep. Are you a good kisser? Answer? Yeah,

1183
01:00:21,880 --> 01:00:24,120
Speaker 1: I think I'm a good kisser. There are different levels

1184
01:00:24,160 --> 01:00:26,040
Speaker 1: of kissing, and I think you have to be really

1185
01:00:26,080 --> 01:00:28,000
Speaker 1: in tune with someone to know what kind of kiss

1186
01:00:28,080 --> 01:00:30,960
Speaker 1: is the right kiss. Some people will kiss you and

1187
01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:33,640
Speaker 1: you're like, wow, that was way too hard for Right now,

1188
01:00:33,960 --> 01:00:36,200
Speaker 1: I think I'm I'm good at all the types of

1189
01:00:36,240 --> 01:00:38,520
Speaker 1: kissing and knowing when it's the right time for which

1190
01:00:40,560 --> 01:00:44,720
Speaker 1: that was complex. You're respectful for your kissing. Yeah, you

1191
01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:47,040
Speaker 1: know you are an expert of all the types of

1192
01:00:47,120 --> 01:00:49,919
Speaker 1: kissing and you know when you need to use them

1193
01:00:50,360 --> 01:00:54,520
Speaker 1: most importantly. Oh my god. Okay, so you know the

1194
01:00:54,880 --> 01:00:57,040
Speaker 1: answers don't match these days, but you know, we evolve,

1195
01:00:57,240 --> 01:00:59,680
Speaker 1: We evolve. It's good to know that you like your

1196
01:00:59,680 --> 01:01:04,400
Speaker 1: taint tickled and that you are a a good kisser,

1197
01:01:05,280 --> 01:01:07,560
Speaker 1: all right, before we let you go, everyone wants to know,

1198
01:01:07,880 --> 01:01:10,479
Speaker 1: is there ever a chance for new music coming out soon?

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Speaker 1: Will you join the Otown Boys for anything in the future?

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01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:18,080
Speaker 1: Is there any hope? That is the most that's the

1201
01:01:18,080 --> 01:01:23,919
Speaker 1: most repeated questions you get that, and I think I mean,

1202
01:01:24,120 --> 01:01:26,200
Speaker 1: I would always say through the years, i'd say never,

1203
01:01:26,280 --> 01:01:28,920
Speaker 1: say never, But lately I feel like I don't know.

1204
01:01:29,040 --> 01:01:31,919
Speaker 1: I've not anytime soon, and there's there hasn't been talks

1205
01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:33,800
Speaker 1: about it, and there hasn't been plans in the works.

1206
01:01:33,840 --> 01:01:36,160
Speaker 1: That's why I say, probably not anytime soon. But the

1207
01:01:36,160 --> 01:01:40,919
Speaker 1: older we get, I don't. I don't think so because

1208
01:01:40,960 --> 01:01:43,000
Speaker 1: they've been The thing is that they did the Otown

1209
01:01:43,040 --> 01:01:45,320
Speaker 1: Reunion and now they've been a band for ten years,

1210
01:01:45,720 --> 01:01:48,000
Speaker 1: whereas originally we were a band for three and a

1211
01:01:48,040 --> 01:01:50,840
Speaker 1: half years. So I think they have like they have

1212
01:01:50,960 --> 01:01:55,200
Speaker 1: a new bond as independent artists as well. So I

1213
01:01:55,200 --> 01:01:58,480
Speaker 1: feel like it might also be what if Vegas said,

1214
01:01:58,520 --> 01:02:00,960
Speaker 1: because you live in Vegas, would be very easy for you.

1215
01:02:01,000 --> 01:02:03,439
Speaker 1: What if Vegas said, look, guys, we want to bring

1216
01:02:03,480 --> 01:02:07,920
Speaker 1: back a full group for twenty shows. That's all we

1217
01:02:07,960 --> 01:02:10,400
Speaker 1: want to do. Would you would you join something like that?

1218
01:02:10,440 --> 01:02:13,360
Speaker 1: Where you knew there was a finite. It's kind of

1219
01:02:13,360 --> 01:02:16,920
Speaker 1: like our goodbye. That's God. I feel like a tugs

1220
01:02:16,920 --> 01:02:20,000
Speaker 1: on that tugs on my my boy band heartstrings. Yeah. Yeah.

1221
01:02:20,080 --> 01:02:22,440
Speaker 1: The thing about where I'm at now is like I'm

1222
01:02:22,520 --> 01:02:24,880
Speaker 1: running this company and I have hundreds of people that

1223
01:02:24,920 --> 01:02:27,400
Speaker 1: I coach. That's why touring would be hard. Yeah, like

1224
01:02:27,480 --> 01:02:29,080
Speaker 1: it would be hard to be a part of the band.

1225
01:02:29,160 --> 01:02:32,000
Speaker 1: But if you got that like very short stint, it's okay.

1226
01:02:32,000 --> 01:02:35,880
Speaker 1: I can I can take three months. Just the thing

1227
01:02:35,880 --> 01:02:38,000
Speaker 1: about life and for people that are listening, that are

1228
01:02:38,040 --> 01:02:40,960
Speaker 1: immersed in whatever business there, and it's like, I built

1229
01:02:41,000 --> 01:02:43,800
Speaker 1: this thing now that I can't step away from without

1230
01:02:43,960 --> 01:02:47,320
Speaker 1: letting down hundreds of people that I'm coaching, and it's

1231
01:02:47,480 --> 01:02:49,760
Speaker 1: really hard to take even a day off. So a

1232
01:02:49,800 --> 01:02:52,320
Speaker 1: three month gig off would be basically like shutting down

1233
01:02:52,320 --> 01:02:54,800
Speaker 1: my entire company that I've built for five years. And

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01:02:54,840 --> 01:02:57,919
Speaker 1: it's not even necessarily that I wouldn't desire to sing

1235
01:02:57,960 --> 01:03:00,400
Speaker 1: those songs and enjoy that and celebrate that part of

1236
01:03:00,400 --> 01:03:03,680
Speaker 1: my life, which I really do. It's like life happens, though,

1237
01:03:04,160 --> 01:03:07,120
Speaker 1: and you make choices, and I've built this company for

1238
01:03:07,200 --> 01:03:10,360
Speaker 1: five years. That's so it's it's not as I'm like,

1239
01:03:10,520 --> 01:03:12,640
Speaker 1: I'm a CEO of this company, so it's really be

1240
01:03:12,800 --> 01:03:15,320
Speaker 1: very challenging for me, be very challenging for me to

1241
01:03:15,320 --> 01:03:17,280
Speaker 1: step away from it. Well, High Level is doing great,

1242
01:03:17,320 --> 01:03:20,520
Speaker 1: congratulations on that. Thank you. How could everyone like just

1243
01:03:20,560 --> 01:03:23,640
Speaker 1: follow your social media's? Yeah, high Level, come to social media.

1244
01:03:23,720 --> 01:03:27,120
Speaker 1: Come follow me on Instagram, on Facebook, growing my TikTok.

1245
01:03:27,160 --> 01:03:29,000
Speaker 1: I hope to co star and a lance TikTok s.

1246
01:03:29,280 --> 01:03:32,160
Speaker 1: We're gonna do one today. Yes, one awesome. I still

1247
01:03:32,160 --> 01:03:34,160
Speaker 1: actually have some really good gen z questions for you

1248
01:03:34,200 --> 01:03:36,200
Speaker 1: that we're gonna do a TikTok. Oh perfect. I love

1249
01:03:36,280 --> 01:03:39,160
Speaker 1: it because I don't know any of these. Yeah, thank

1250
01:03:39,160 --> 01:03:41,000
Speaker 1: you so much, Ashley. It's so good to catch up

1251
01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:45,000
Speaker 1: with you. Thank you. It's nice to really get deep. Yes,

1252
01:03:45,240 --> 01:03:47,840
Speaker 1: you so grateful to be on and the fans they've

1253
01:03:47,840 --> 01:03:50,400
Speaker 1: loved you even really question on this show. So I'm

1254
01:03:50,440 --> 01:03:52,120
Speaker 1: glad that you finally got to do it. You're the best,

1255
01:03:52,680 --> 01:03:54,880
Speaker 1: all right, Ashley. Oh, what is your social media is? Yeah,

1256
01:03:54,960 --> 01:03:58,000
Speaker 1: I'm just Ashley Parker Angel. I'll pop up on Facebook

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Speaker 1: and Instagram and on TikTok. Just google thirst Trap or

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Speaker 1: a Champion White champion winner. Thank you would I'd frame that,

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Speaker 1: put it on my wall. That's going up with the

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Speaker 1: platinum five. I wish I could ever say that I've

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Speaker 1: ever had a thirst trap photo. I'm gonna I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: get with you. I'm gonna high level my body for

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Speaker 1: a year. Yeah, I'm gonna have the courage to actually

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Speaker 1: put a shirtless picture. Let's do it. I've never posted

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Speaker 1: a shirtless picture, like on purpose, maybe on a beach

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Speaker 1: or something, but I've I've just never felt like I

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Speaker 1: ever was in shape enough. Oh my god. But the photographer, Okay,

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Speaker 1: I'm eighteen years old, and that's when, you know, back

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Speaker 1: in the day, because we're objectified as teenage you know, kids,

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Speaker 1: the photographer always trying to get you to take your

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Speaker 1: shirt off. But i'nna sly away. I know, well maybe

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Speaker 1: for this one you do. And then finally you just

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Speaker 1: in an ocean with your shirt off exactly, they find

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Speaker 1: that you got the shot. You look great? Are you

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Speaker 1: kidding me? We need to do the twenty twenty three

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Speaker 1: very of that. That is me. It's never done a

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Speaker 1: push up in my life. I will coach you. We

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Speaker 1: will hit the tonal. Okay, we'll do it all right?

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Speaker 1: All right? So okay, body by Ashley out all right, buddy,

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Speaker 1: good to seek you. Thank you mister Ashley Parker Angel, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Ashley Angel Parker finding you out there. It's it's one

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Speaker 1: of those things. Yeah, because Angel, you would think is

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Speaker 1: more of a first name, and Parker would be a

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Speaker 1: last name. Peter Parker, Yeah, Peter Parker Yeah. Um, what

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Speaker 1: a lovely guy. He's always so nice. I know we've

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Speaker 1: got I mean we've known him for a while. I mean,

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Speaker 1: when you do something like Broadway together, your your bond

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Speaker 1: It's kind of like being in a boy band. You're bonded.

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Speaker 1: You're there every day with each other and sharing that

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Speaker 1: space and just having as much fun as you can.

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Speaker 1: And also the emotions come out. You're gonna be upset

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Speaker 1: with them one day, you're gonna love them one day.

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Speaker 1: It's all the emotions. So that really kind of bonded us,

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Speaker 1: and we've stayed for instits. I know now that he

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Speaker 1: lives in Vegas, we always see hi when he comes out,

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Speaker 1: and we got some hard hitting news. He likes his

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Speaker 1: taint tickled. He likes a little tickle tank. I don't

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Speaker 1: know me. He doesn't like it but it's the most

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Speaker 1: ticklish spot. So it is the most you know, that's

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Speaker 1: your most ticklish spot. You hear that, BuzzFeed. I don't

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Speaker 1: know how ticklish taint is. Well. Oh I always pretend

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Speaker 1: not to be ticklish, although I am ticklish. I know

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Speaker 1: some people don't. Can try exactly because people, you're done.

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Speaker 1: So Ever, since I was a little kid, I would

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Speaker 1: fight it so much so that people didn't think I

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Speaker 1: was ticklish. So I never get tickle attacked. And I

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Speaker 1: would and I did it. I like forced myself to

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Speaker 1: just take it. Yeah, my feed if you get in there,

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Speaker 1: oh I know you're oh my god, a little tickle. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's bad. Um all right, well that is all the

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Speaker 1: show we have for you. Um yeah, thank you so

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Speaker 1: much Ashley for coming on the show. Oh it's a pleasures.

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Speaker 1: Anything you want to tell the lovely listeners out there

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Speaker 1: before we let them go? No, just uh keep being

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Speaker 1: great guys, and being great I mean listening to us,

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Speaker 1: because you can't be great if you don't listen to us.

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Speaker 1: Oh we haven't said this in a while. Review subscribe

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Speaker 1: we need to start reading reviews. I know, so give

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Speaker 1: us some colorful positive reviews, but colorful reviews. And if

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Speaker 1: you have a fun and we'll read a bad one too.

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Speaker 1: But just make it interesting, but just make it fun.

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Speaker 1: Let make it funny. The bad ones we might got, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so I don't make fake ones out though. Okay, all right, guys,

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