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Speaker 1: second day. Business conventions are good for three reasons. One,
Speaker 1: you get to learn new techniques about whatever industry that
Speaker 1: you're in, maybe help you increase your business. Number two
Speaker 1: of the sex and then number three the sex are
Speaker 1: the three reasons that business conventions are really really good.
Speaker 1: Meaningtime you meet somebody at a convention, you just assume
Speaker 1: you're probably gonna be having sex with. Are you in
Speaker 1: the port industry? Like industry in everybody knows that about
Speaker 1: business conventions. It's like you're in town for one night,
Speaker 1: you're for the weekend, and you're just there and you
Speaker 1: go and you learn whatever it is that you have
Speaker 1: to learn for the day. Then you got drinking at
Speaker 1: night and usually probably hook up with somebody, right, And
Speaker 1: that's where James, who's on the phone today, he met
Speaker 1: the girl that he wants to call at a business convention.
Speaker 1: So I'm assuming that they slept together, did you, James?
Speaker 1: We did not? What are you doing? Man? Come on,
Speaker 1: it's a convention girl. They're so easy. I guess I
Speaker 1: don't know if that's true yet. Is that the way
Speaker 1: it is? You know what? I haven't been to a
Speaker 1: business convention in a long time, so was it in
Speaker 1: a marketing company for like a couple of years and
Speaker 1: it was terrible. But that's what I remember always thinking
Speaker 1: every time I had to go to convention, I was like,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get lucky. Did you ever myself? That's just
Speaker 1: so there's no fact at all to what you're saying.
Speaker 1: Our business convention is like what I think they are.
Speaker 1: You know, Uh, it's a lot of people. We're trapped
Speaker 1: in space, you know. Yeah, when you get out, I
Speaker 1: guess things could happen. It happened for me this time.
Speaker 1: But you know, why don't you tell us a little
Speaker 1: bit about the girl that you want to call today? Yeah,
Speaker 1: her name is Kia. We met at a convention. Really,
Speaker 1: I come in at interesting You met at a convention convention? Shock? Right?
Speaker 1: I come in from town every couple of weeks. That's
Speaker 1: where I met her and we just kind of hit
Speaker 1: it off. Have you ever seen her before or no? No,
Speaker 1: this is my first time seeing her. Was that this
Speaker 1: specific convention. Did you guys actually go out on a
Speaker 1: date or did you just hang out all day at
Speaker 1: the convention? Well, we like hung out and then I said,
Speaker 1: you know, hey, do you want to grab you know,
Speaker 1: some dinner tonight. I'm believe it's in tomorrow, if you
Speaker 1: want to grab dinner tonight. And she said, yeah, was it?
Speaker 1: I mean, was it clear that it was a date?
Speaker 1: Because I feel like, if you're hanging out all day
Speaker 1: with business people, it could just be like, hey, we're
Speaker 1: both from out of town, we both have to go
Speaker 1: out to eat. That's when the sex happens. Oh, of course. Sorry,
Speaker 1: have you never been in business before ever? Apparently not.
Speaker 1: I mean, you knew that this was more than a
Speaker 1: dinner date, and you know, honestly, I was kind of
Speaker 1: hoping that we would end up having a little bit
Speaker 1: of sex maybe at the end of the night. You go,
Speaker 1: I actually knew that already because I read your email
Speaker 1: and it says at one point you started actually asking
Speaker 1: her about getting physical with each other. Yeah, after a
Speaker 1: few drinks that I did. Oh, that sounds so awkward
Speaker 1: to me. Well, I mean, you know, we had We're
Speaker 1: having a couple of drinks and I felt comfortable. I
Speaker 1: felt like she was comfortable too, so I you know,
Speaker 1: I mean, it wasn't I got to look back at it.
Speaker 1: It was not the kind of move I should have made.
Speaker 1: How did you approach that with her? Though? What did
Speaker 1: you say? You know? I was just like, how about
Speaker 1: you know, I I got my room key hotels right
Speaker 1: next door. You know, I was trying to be sly,
Speaker 1: and it was not sly. What did she say to
Speaker 1: you back? She kind of got a little uncomfortable and
Speaker 1: was like ready to go. And I felt awful. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm a human, and I offered to walk her back
Speaker 1: to her hotel and she said no, no thanks and
Speaker 1: got a cab and I just went back to my place.
Speaker 1: And you know, I tried to reach out. I did
Speaker 1: because I felt bad. And I haven't heard from her.
Speaker 1: What do you do about trying to reach out? You
Speaker 1: text her or call her? Yeah, yeah, you know, I
Speaker 1: sent her a text. Let's seems to be easy way
Speaker 1: to get a hold of her, and I haven't heard anything.
Speaker 1: I think the problem was that you actually asked her
Speaker 1: to like go to your hotel. You know, everybody knows
Speaker 1: the way you approach that is you just slide your
Speaker 1: room ki across the table in a wink three times
Speaker 1: and then you go uh huh, and then she'll just
Speaker 1: pick up on that hint. I mean, like you know,
Speaker 1: like all joking, decide, I really really like this girl,
Speaker 1: and I mean that's why I wrote in because I
Speaker 1: want to try to make this happen, you know. And
Speaker 1: so do you want to apologize to her for being
Speaker 1: a maybe a little too forward and then ask her
Speaker 1: for a second date. Absolutely, I want to apologize and
Speaker 1: I want to see if you know, if I can't
Speaker 1: get a second chance. You know, you feel like she's
Speaker 1: got the wrong impression. Yeah, you know that's like that's
Speaker 1: not really me, that's not really you. But if she
Speaker 1: would have said yes to going back to your done
Speaker 1: it right, So it's you sometimes, So sometimes that's really you.
Speaker 1: But you would actually like to date her. I mean
Speaker 1: there's two sides each person, right, Yeah, before all that happened,
Speaker 1: I really do think we had an actual connection and
Speaker 1: I'm very interested and attracted to her. So you think
Speaker 1: you just messed up by trying to get it back
Speaker 1: to your room same night that you totally messed up.
Speaker 1: I totally messed it up. I mean we were drinking
Speaker 1: and yeah, I mean, you know how it is. It
Speaker 1: takes signs that might not be there, you know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, well we'll play a song, come back, call
Speaker 1: her and get your second date update. All right, all right, thanks,
Speaker 1: all right, hang on brooking jubil in the morning. We've
Speaker 1: got James on the phone with us. And today he
Speaker 1: wants to call a girl named Kiara. They met at
Speaker 1: a convention. He thinks he screwed up their first date
Speaker 1: because during dinner he asked her if she wanted to
Speaker 1: go back to his hotel room not to like check
Speaker 1: out the great deal on Wi Fi, that they have
Speaker 1: their great amenities to do stuff that adults do with
Speaker 1: each other in hotel rooms on occasion. And she turned
Speaker 1: him down and said no, and hasn't talked to him since.
Speaker 1: But he'd liked to get her on the phone because
Speaker 1: they met at this convention. He's in town once in
Speaker 1: a while. He wants to go out with her again,
Speaker 1: like on an actual date and not just try to,
Speaker 1: you know, get some butts, one way to put it.
Speaker 1: You're not ready to give her a call and see
Speaker 1: if you can do some damage control and get another date.
Speaker 1: Let's see what happened, all right. You know the tough
Speaker 1: part about this for you is convincing her that you're
Speaker 1: not just interested in sex, right, because you already went there.
Speaker 1: So how do you go back and be like, No,
Speaker 1: I promise that wasn't the only thing that I'm interested in.
Speaker 1: I would actually like to date you. Charm. Yeah, maybe
Speaker 1: you think you have some of that, James. Well, I
Speaker 1: guess we'll find out today. If you had charm, you
Speaker 1: would have been able to get her to go back
Speaker 1: to your room. You wouldn't even be having this problem. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I guess it's the power of persuasion. But I think
Speaker 1: I think just be honest and true to yourself, James,
Speaker 1: is probably the best goal here. O. Hey, yeah, I'll
Speaker 1: just I mean apologize and let her know that I
Speaker 1: was just too forward and see if we can't, you know,
Speaker 1: go back and try it again and sure who I
Speaker 1: really am? Okay? Cool? Well, I'm gonna doll the phone
Speaker 1: right now and get her on the phone. You're ready,
Speaker 1: all right, let's do it? Okay? Hello? OHI can I
Speaker 1: speak to Kara? Please speaking? Hi Kara, this is Jewel
Speaker 1: from brook and Jewil in the morning. How are you?
Speaker 1: This is true? Jebil from Brooke and Jewil in the Morning.
Speaker 1: Je Bowl, I'm sorry, I don't know who this is. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm calling from Brooke and Jewil in the Morning. It's
Speaker 1: a radio show, Okay. One of our listeners recently emailed
Speaker 1: us about you, asking if we could get you on
Speaker 1: the phone. Someone wants me on the phone? Yes, sort of.
Speaker 1: We do a segment on our show called the Second
Speaker 1: Date Update. It's basically, if you go out on a
Speaker 1: date with somebody and then blow them off, they email
Speaker 1: us and ask if we can get you on the
Speaker 1: phone and ask if they did something wrong? Who would
Speaker 1: do that? His name is James and you recently met
Speaker 1: him at a convention. God really yep. James emailed us
Speaker 1: and asked if we get a hold of you because
Speaker 1: you're apparently not answering any of his text messages. Did
Speaker 1: you like James at all? Well? I liked him on
Speaker 1: our date until the very end. But no, are you
Speaker 1: talking about the point where he asked if you want
Speaker 1: to go back to his hotel room? He told you that, Yeah,
Speaker 1: he did. Ye, he told us because we asked him
Speaker 1: about your date and about meeting you. He said that
Speaker 1: he really liked you, but he also felt like he
Speaker 1: kind of overstepped his bounds there and he felt bad
Speaker 1: about it. He kind of overstepped his boundary. Did he
Speaker 1: tell you everything? That's all I know is that you
Speaker 1: guys met at a convention, went out for dinner, and
Speaker 1: he asked you to go back to his room, and
Speaker 1: that's the last he heard from you. That's all he
Speaker 1: told us. Okay, so did he tell you towards the
Speaker 1: end of dinner? And I understand we've both had a
Speaker 1: couple of drinks, but did he tell you that he'd
Speaker 1: said me, Hey, you know, I'm in town every couple
Speaker 1: of weeks and I would love to have you as
Speaker 1: my friend with benefits. That is seriously, what proposition do
Speaker 1: He was already trying to get me back to his
Speaker 1: place that night, which I figured out. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm not stupid. It's not my first convention, but just
Speaker 1: be like, hey, baby, I'm in found every couple of weeks.
Speaker 1: You could be my regular friends with benefits. What the
Speaker 1: hell is that all? Is that really how he said it,
Speaker 1: because that's not how he explained it to us at all. Well,
Speaker 1: I'm sure he's being all sweet when he explains it
Speaker 1: to you, guys, he doesn't want to sound like a
Speaker 1: good point. I mean so, I mean when I said no,
Speaker 1: because seriously, I've known him over a dinner for maybe
Speaker 1: an hour and a half. Yeah, he accused me of
Speaker 1: being a prude. No he didn't, he sure did. How
Speaker 1: did he say that? Because I value myself as a
Speaker 1: human being, not just as a woman, but as a
Speaker 1: human being. He just doesn't want to spread my legs
Speaker 1: over cheap wine. And she says, what did he say
Speaker 1: to you? I mean, did he's flat out call you
Speaker 1: a prude? He did. He called me a prude to
Speaker 1: dinner and that was that there. I got up and
Speaker 1: I went to go get a cat, so back to
Speaker 1: my hotel. That is so like the way he painted
Speaker 1: it was how much he enjoyed your company and how
Speaker 1: great he thought you were. Like I would have never
Speaker 1: guessed he was that sleazy. I would have never thought
Speaker 1: he was that sleazy when he so very nicely asked
Speaker 1: me out after we hung out all day. But as
Speaker 1: it turns out, he's no different than the majority of
Speaker 1: the sleez falls who go to these conventions are like, hey,
Speaker 1: time to hook up. Wife's not around. I mean, they're all, God,
Speaker 1: does this happen a lot of conventions? Oh my god. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean everyone who's ever been to a convention knows.
Speaker 1: It's just like cod for one. I was joking about
Speaker 1: that earlier. We were talking about it, and I was like,
Speaker 1: that's the way, at least I would think of conventions. Wait,
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess you get a bunch of horny
Speaker 1: businessmen out there. Is this the first time something like
Speaker 1: this has happened to you? Actually, it is, because this
Speaker 1: is the first time I've ever said, guess to going
Speaker 1: to dinner with anyone. Yeah. Normally I just go, I
Speaker 1: do my thing, I hang out with whoever's there, and
Speaker 1: I just go back to my hotel room and go
Speaker 1: to bed. Yeah. So he told us that he tried
Speaker 1: to text you after your date. Oh yeah, he sure did.
Speaker 1: Oh did he not just apologize in his text? No? No, No,
Speaker 1: I mean he did. He's like, listen, I'm sorry if
Speaker 1: things got out of hand. And I wrote him back
Speaker 1: I'm like, just don't contract me ever again. And then
Speaker 1: the guy has evolved to say, well, you don't know
Speaker 1: what you're missing with this, and I'm like, he really
Speaker 1: said that to you? Really? I still have the text message. Wow,
Speaker 1: he left all of that out. It didn't From his
Speaker 1: side of the story, it sounds like he was very
Speaker 1: sweet to you after, like, I really apologize for asking
Speaker 1: you go to back to my room. That was so
Speaker 1: wrong of me. Wouldn't you love to just kind of
Speaker 1: talk to him about it? Though, Actually I really wouldn't
Speaker 1: like to talk to him about it. I hope I
Speaker 1: never talk to him or see him again at all.
Speaker 1: That's a shame, because he's on the phone listening right now.
Speaker 1: He wants to talk to you. What yeah, he do
Speaker 1: you think you're like over exaggerating this. No, I seriously
Speaker 1: am not over exaggerating. I have those text messages that
Speaker 1: you sent me, and you're like a foul cross pig,
Speaker 1: and I don't worry and here it please, you know,
Speaker 1: just just hang on one second, all right. I apologize
Speaker 1: for the text messages, and you know, like it doesn't
Speaker 1: really mean but at the same time, we were both
Speaker 1: drinking a lot. I don't remember sending you that text message.
Speaker 1: I remember apologizing, but I don't remember saying anything about
Speaker 1: my I thought it was just another piece of proof
Speaker 1: I would have discussing pig that you are that I
Speaker 1: saved It showed it to all the women that I
Speaker 1: know that are going to the convention in a week,
Speaker 1: to make sure that they didn't as much as even
Speaker 1: say hello to you. But you know what, you were
Speaker 1: the one that went out with me. Didn't you just
Speaker 1: say that you knew that these conventions were all about,
Speaker 1: and yet you came out to dinner with me. Why
Speaker 1: I went out to get with you. I didn't go
Speaker 1: back to your hotel with you and then suddenly become
Speaker 1: a crude. There's a big difference. Well, but here's the deal.
Speaker 1: You got me going. You we were very together and
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, you're gonna walk away. That
Speaker 1: sounds true to me. We were drinking, you were flirting,
Speaker 1: you were trying to get me going, and you got
Speaker 1: me going. Why do you have to say it like that, stup,
Speaker 1: It's true you did it to me. Oh my god, Seriously,
Speaker 1: you guys, I'm so sick of this side. He's a
Speaker 1: fun cake. If you can't tell that all of your delusion,
Speaker 1: I don't think anybody liked outs that. Everybody's on your
Speaker 1: side with this one. Kia. Once I heard the phrase
Speaker 1: got me going a few times in there on I'm
Speaker 1: on board. Hey, Karatt, regardless, would you like to go
Speaker 1: out with James again on a second date. I'd love
Speaker 1: to pay for it. No, no, what if we don't
Speaker 1: get him going is bad? I would soon go out
Speaker 1: with my dog. Yeah yeah, yeah, whatever you proved you
Speaker 1: can learn how to throw your signals out. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: it's definitely arras fault. Don't get a prostitute next time, honey. Well,
Speaker 1: you know there's not a convention coming up. I'll see
Speaker 1: what I can do now. Now, you guys got me
Speaker 1: going with that whole process, dude. And when you got
Speaker 1: me going, you got me going broken jewel in the morning.
Speaker 1: It's