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Speaker 2: You look.

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Speaker 1: All right, guys, don't be shocked. Don't fall over your

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Speaker 1: another podcast out, yes, one last week, one this week.

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Speaker 2: Can you believe it. We're back.

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Speaker 1: We're back.

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Speaker 2: We're back, baby, We're back. Well, also, we have microphones.

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Speaker 1: So we do have microphones, so I hope you guys

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well so that's where. So it is the ATP

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Speaker 2: Tour Finals. We spent a lot of time talking about

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Speaker 1: It's been great, great, but that's what happens when you

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Speaker 1: So you know, people are making this a destination week.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So did they get those? Is that why they

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Speaker 2: So you as Letterman, so you actually.

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Speaker 2: Only difference, because you're right, they both handle hostile crowd

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Speaker 1: The Corta boys. I had the Corota Boys on my

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Speaker 1: You can't hit a tennis ball. Yeah, what do you

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's the risk you take when you fuck

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Speaker 2: Come on?

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Speaker 2: It is a bummer, but not cool. Booing when somebody

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Speaker 1: Like, yeah, they had a replacement match. I put her

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Speaker 1: That's not cool?

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Speaker 1: Come on?

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Speaker 2: Okay, last question about Sinner and then we should move

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Speaker 2: I think it's probably still Novak, although he can. My

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Speaker 1: to be very hard to beat because of those reasons. Fresh,

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Speaker 1: fresher than a lot of the players, with a lot

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Speaker 1: of really good confidence behind him, after winning a huge

437
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Speaker 1: tournament and beating medvedevn a final that he hadn't beaten,

438
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Speaker 1: you know, I mean, there's a lot on the line

439
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Speaker 1: now he's beaten Novak, So I think his ceiling is

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Speaker 1: I actually think he's going to be the player to

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Speaker 1: beat at this tournament. And I also think that he

442
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Speaker 1: is on schedule to win a Grand Slam next year.

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Speaker 1: And you know, somebody wrote me to oh, that's a

444
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Speaker 1: big statement. He's four in the world and you know

445
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Speaker 1: he's one of the Yeah, okay, dude. He's never made

446
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Speaker 1: a final of a Grand Slam and he's only made

447
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Speaker 1: one semi final and that was at Wimbledon where he

448
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Speaker 1: was up two sets to love, remember against Novak. So

449
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Speaker 1: it's like it's you know, you people that sit at

450
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Speaker 1: home and like, oh, big big statement, stubs. I was like, listen, guys,

451
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Speaker 1: over five sets to make a final of a Grand

452
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Speaker 1: Slam is really bloody hard. To win one is even harder.

453
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Speaker 1: And you know, just our Steph Jess Begoula, who's never

454
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Speaker 1: reached gotten past a quarterfinal. It's mentally very hard. And

455
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Speaker 1: he's a lot younger, and I get it, and he,

456
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Speaker 1: you know, he is certainly on track to we all know,

457
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Speaker 1: get to a final Grand Slam. That's easy to guess,

458
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Speaker 1: but it's another thing to win one. And it's it's

459
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Speaker 1: a big step.

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Speaker 2: For any point, it feels like the steps get further, yes, apart,

461
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Speaker 2: it gets they get higher.

462
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not.

463
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Speaker 2: It's like a box jump. That's true.

464
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Speaker 1: That's a good point.

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Speaker 2: It seems like that's the case. And people, you know,

466
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Speaker 2: even people like me who maybe have played some tournaments

467
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Speaker 2: or play some competitive stuff, Like I think it's there's

468
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Speaker 2: no comparison to the level that jumps the pressure that jumps.

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Speaker 1: The semi to a final to winning just on super

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Speaker 1: for sure, you know what I mean, Like, Oh, Maria Sakari,

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Speaker 1: like it's a it's a big step to contempt to

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Speaker 1: make that.

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Speaker 2: Now, Felix Jlia seem you know, like, yeah, who's look

474
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Speaker 2: at him? Finally broke through. That actually is sort of

475
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Speaker 2: a segue because we have done an uncharacteristic thing here,

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Speaker 2: which is talk about men for nearly twenty minutes. Which

477
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Speaker 2: let's give ourselves a hand because usually people who listen

478
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Speaker 2: to this podcast know that we tend to subject the

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Speaker 2: men to the back house.

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Speaker 1: We do what we want to do, which is we

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Speaker 1: would prefer to highlight women's tennis, right.

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Speaker 2: Because everybody else is busy highlighting men's tennis.

483
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Speaker 1: Yeah, but we have to highlight them tennis because it's

484
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Speaker 1: going on this week and it's very good. Can I

485
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Speaker 1: just before we get to that, though, before we move on,

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Speaker 1: is to say how great the court looks, how everything looks,

487
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Speaker 1: and this is how the WTA finals should look.

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Speaker 2: Well, the WTA Finals does not yet have the tournament scheduled.

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Speaker 1: For next year. Which are we getting to that now?

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Speaker 2: We were just going to glance at it because they

491
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Speaker 2: have definitely been the recipient of a lot of grief.

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Speaker 1: From us throughout the year, deservedly so.

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Speaker 2: And what I appreciate and why I think we do

494
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Speaker 2: not have to touch on it is to my great optimism,

495
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Speaker 2: a lot of other people in the space tennis people

496
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Speaker 2: but also like larger media, have sort of started asking

497
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Speaker 2: questions about, hey, like is this sustainable? Is this viable?

498
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Speaker 2: Can you actually run a tour like this? After having

499
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Speaker 2: the second event two years in a row? That is

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Speaker 2: a shambles? And my hope is not that people lose

501
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Speaker 2: their livelihoods and get punished. It's just more like, these

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Speaker 2: women deserve better, the fans deserve better, and we have

503
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Speaker 2: a whole you know, basically eleven and a half months

504
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Speaker 2: now to figure out what's going to happen next year.

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Speaker 2: And I think because so many other people are asking

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Speaker 2: the hard questions. Now. There was a piece in the

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Speaker 2: New York Times. There's a piece of The Athletic, there

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Speaker 2: were a piece of Washington Post, there was a piece

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Speaker 2: you know, all over social atpa Is in the Guardian,

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Speaker 2: so great, keep asking questions because we don't want to

511
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Speaker 2: be the only people asking or complaining the whole time.

512
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Speaker 2: And now you guys can all sort of hold these

513
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Speaker 2: guys to the standard that they should be and we

514
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Speaker 2: can all collectively applaud them when they meet it, assuming

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Speaker 2: they can. But I did want to mention because we

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Speaker 2: were talking about Felix a little bit. The Canadian women

517
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Speaker 2: can a great Billy Jean King Cup in a great city, Sevilla, Spain.

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Speaker 2: Looked like it was decently well attended and had a

519
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Speaker 2: lot of amazing matches. But I have to say, coming

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Speaker 2: to this tournament knowing that Italy defending a former champion,

521
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Speaker 2: the Czechs defending champion, the murderer's row of some of

522
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Speaker 2: these teams, you know, not the strongest American field, but

523
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Speaker 2: still one with Sloan and Sophia Kennon and Daniel Collins

524
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Speaker 2: and Venders and Grand Slam finalists.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that it was.

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Speaker 2: Canada that came through.

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Speaker 1: Look at you, Look at you. You're beside yourself.

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Speaker 2: Oh.

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Speaker 1: I love when your Canadian roots come out.

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Speaker 2: It's they still infrequently come out because we have so

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Speaker 2: many things.

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Speaker 1: I got to give props.

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Speaker 2: Just an incredible effort.

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Speaker 1: But that's what happens when you have a you know,

535
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Speaker 1: you know, it's lightning in a bottle sometimes, and that

536
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Speaker 1: was what it was. And I'm going to give so

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Speaker 1: much praise to Leila Fernandez, Like she's been through hell

538
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Speaker 1: and back in the last couple of years after making

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Speaker 1: the finals the US Open and all the expectation on

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Speaker 1: her shoulders and great kid works her ass off, like

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Speaker 1: really really really works hard, and you know, it's been

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Speaker 1: an up and down a couple of years. And to

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Speaker 1: see her out there and be the MVP of the

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Speaker 1: Canadian team in singles and doubles it undefeated on the

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Speaker 1: singles and doubles.

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Speaker 2: Like undefeated in singles, undefeated in doubles and hits a

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Speaker 2: backhand passing shot winner to win the clinch. Ye gets

548
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Speaker 2: to throw her racket up in the air and be

549
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Speaker 2: sworn by her Canadian teammates, Like I'm really happy that

550
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Speaker 2: she got to have that moment. And that team format

551
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Speaker 2: just really lends itself to tennis, having these rare but

552
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Speaker 2: really wonderful moments where you feel like you're bigger, you're

553
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Speaker 2: part of something bigger than you.

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Speaker 1: That's what Fed Cup is I mean, it was one

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Speaker 1: of the greatest joys of my career. Was constantly, always

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Speaker 1: it was turning up in my green and gold to

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Speaker 1: play for Australia. You know, I mean those weeks. For

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Speaker 1: any player that has played Fed Cup or Davis Cup

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Speaker 1: or Billy Jean king Cup and Davis Cup, I mean,

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Speaker 1: they'll always talk about those memories. There's no I doubt

561
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Speaker 1: there's a player that's playing on the professional tour or

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Speaker 1: has retired that won't say that. For you know, those

563
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Speaker 1: weeks at Davis Cup and Billy Jean King Cup aren't

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Speaker 1: their favorite weeks of the year unless they absolutely hated

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Speaker 1: their teammates and their captain.

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Speaker 2: Are you speaking out of any specific example.

567
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Speaker 1: No, no, no, no. Even on the trials and tribulations

568
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Speaker 1: of some of my weeks at fed Cup with certain

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Speaker 1: captains and certain coaches and maybe a couple.

570
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Speaker 2: Of teammates, sure you like some people better.

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Speaker 1: You know, I still had fun because my teammates, you know,

572
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Speaker 1: I mean, we we just it was just the best.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's the one thing missing in being a

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Speaker 1: professional tennis players. It's an individual, very selfish sport. And

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Speaker 1: so when you go to those weeks and often the

576
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Speaker 1: successful teams are the really dynamically good teams, you know

577
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Speaker 1: that really get along and try and help each other

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Speaker 1: through and make it a team environment, and they're the

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Speaker 1: doubles is as important as the singles and the singles players.

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Speaker 1: You know, practice, you know with the doubles players, and

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Speaker 1: it's just it's a nice environment. So I really give

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Speaker 1: a lot of praise to everybody on the Canadian team.

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Speaker 1: And how about the what is eighteen year old? This

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Speaker 1: nineteen year old never hurt her in my life, and

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Speaker 1: she comes out and wins this match in the finals.

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Speaker 1: I mean that really was the clincher. Right for them

587
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Speaker 1: to win that first match was unbelievable. I mean, Layla

588
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Speaker 1: finished it off and Laila was the MVP of the

589
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Speaker 1: of the week, there's no question about that, but unbelievable.

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Speaker 2: No incredible effort. Nice to see Eugenie Bouch show in

591
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Speaker 2: a tame environment and its team environment, just just incredible experience.

592
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Speaker 2: Gabby Dabrowski just they had a really good team dynamic,

593
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Speaker 2: and I think it speaks to what's so great about

594
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Speaker 2: team sports, which is it takes everybody pulling in the

595
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Speaker 2: same direction. So that for me is just really you know,

596
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Speaker 2: trying to get my head around, you know. Heidi el Tobac,

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Speaker 2: the captain.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Heidi, great job. Heidi.

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Speaker 2: The unheralded eighteen year old Marina Stacusk because she kind

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Speaker 2: of was the secret.

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Speaker 1: Little engine, little secret sauce.

602
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Speaker 2: Yeah, she's two hundred and sixty one in the world.

603
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Speaker 2: She'd never beaten a top one hundred player before. She

604
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Speaker 2: won three singles matches and beat Marquette Vandrosova like what.

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Speaker 1: A yeah, and then also beat in the finals beat uh,

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Speaker 1: what's the name lefty Italian?

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Speaker 2: Uh, Marina Trevisan.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so she beats Trevisan. She beats from she likes

609
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Speaker 1: playing against lefties, let's face it. But you know, it's

610
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Speaker 1: amazing how some people step up in team environment. It's

611
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Speaker 1: like this and obviously, look, this kid will see what

612
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Speaker 1: she does now going forward. Just got to give her

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Speaker 1: a ton of confidence, like beating players like that. Oho,

614
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Speaker 1: my boat that just beat the Wimbledon champion, Thanks for coming.

615
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Speaker 1: Who you know has been playing Billy Jenky Cup for years.

616
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Speaker 1: But some people turn up a team events and there's

617
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Speaker 1: some great players that have played team events like Davis

618
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Speaker 1: Cup and Billy Jeane Cup and they suck like. There's

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Speaker 1: some that just get too nervous. They don't they don't

620
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Speaker 1: turn up like and I'm not going to throw anyone

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Speaker 1: under the bus. There have been a few in the

622
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Speaker 1: in the past that have not been great players based

623
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Speaker 1: on that. At team environments, some that just are so good.

624
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Speaker 1: I mean, there was an Austrian player back in my day, Petra,

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's it's I can't remember it, but

626
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Speaker 1: it'll happened. But this girl beat like Elayna Docketch, she

627
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:58,040
Speaker 1: beat Monica Sellis. Like, there was this one Austrian player

628
00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:01,320
Speaker 1: that literally turned up at Village King Coup and couldn't lose.

629
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Speaker 1: There's this lefty just only played well at fed Cup.

630
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Speaker 1: It was like a juke between between me and LSA Ryman.

631
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Speaker 1: We're like, this girl doesn't loose. Yeah, she plays fed Cup.

632
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Speaker 2: It's like her superpower. Like Taylor Townsend and World Team

633
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:15,080
Speaker 2: Tennis or Exos, it's like she comes alive.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like team and virones bringing out the best in

635
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Speaker 1: supplies and not in others. And this kid, why to go.

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Speaker 2: It's a great job. Great job Team Canada. Ending on

637
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Speaker 2: a positive note for the season, I was really thrilled

638
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Speaker 2: that my Canadians were getting it done. You know, we

639
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 2: don't have a lot of glory moments, I know, but

640
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Speaker 2: how about that back to back Davis Cup last year,

641
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Speaker 2: Davis Cup last year, Jan Kinkup, picking a great venue,

642
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Speaker 2: picking a great city, indoors, having great teams, you.

643
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Speaker 1: Know, hats off, hats off.

644
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:45,600
Speaker 2: Everybody had their little blue blazers. Afterwards.

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Speaker 1: We'll see where it goes next year and what happens.

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Speaker 2: Fingers crossed? All right, any parting shots that you want

647
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:53,440
Speaker 2: to sort of end on before we recoup next week?

648
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Speaker 2: You'd mentioned something to me about our fellow podcasters that

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Speaker 2: you wanted to sort of make a note of. Since

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Speaker 2: we are you know.

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Speaker 1: Well, do we want to speak about the fact that

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Speaker 1: the WTA doesn't have a schedule fires yet? Okay? Can

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Speaker 1: we just come on guys like it? Keep it moving, okay,

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Speaker 1: keep it moving? All right? I'm loving this the Manning cast.

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Speaker 1: Can I just say, watching football like the I don't

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Speaker 1: know if you saw Eli Manning go through all his

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Speaker 1: plays at the line, you know when they yell out dolphin, dolphin, dolphin,

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Speaker 1: and you're like, what the fuck, it's all this big apple,

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Speaker 1: big apple. And he went through the whole signal stuff.

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Speaker 1: I said, can we do that for tennis? Can we

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Speaker 1: have a manning cast for tennis?

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Speaker 2: Like?

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Speaker 1: I want to be a part of that. I want

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Speaker 1: to I want to be able to like just be

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Speaker 1: myself watching a tennis match and actually commentate one like

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Speaker 1: that and not necessarily.

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Speaker 2: Well, what's who's happening here?

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Speaker 1: I know, I know?

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Speaker 2: Well again give anyway.

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Speaker 1: That And now, as far as podcasts concerned to fellow

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Speaker 1: podcasters and tennis, some people that do them, they're just rude.

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Speaker 2: You feel like there's a bunch of podcasters out there

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Speaker 2: who are just taking shots. I mean, we've taken our

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Speaker 2: fair share of shots, but I also like to think

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Speaker 2: we've given priz.

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Speaker 1: We don't give us. We don't give our fair share

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Speaker 1: of charts on our fellow podcasters. This is not what

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Speaker 1: we do, that's true. So you see, we go after

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Speaker 1: the established that's what we do. Or we give shit

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Speaker 1: to some players sometimes, but overall we're pretty positive about

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Speaker 1: that sort of stuff. Anyway, listen, yeah, Oh, I do

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Speaker 1: want to mention that the men's doubles has been really

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Speaker 1: fun too at the ATP Finals. I love how they

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Speaker 1: do the format they do a doubles match singles match

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Speaker 1: doubles and singles, and a lot of people are there

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Speaker 1: watching these great doubles matches with the guys. I just

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Speaker 1: find men's doubles there's a lot of fun to watch.

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Speaker 1: They're still playing like old school style tennis, you know,

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Speaker 1: serving and vollying. Most of the most of the really

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Speaker 1: great men's doubles players, it's still serving and vollying. It's

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Speaker 1: one thing.

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Speaker 2: Shout to Rohan and Matt Ebden, who will playing this morning.

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Speaker 1: Serving and vollying, still doing the old school style. And

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Speaker 1: as far as I'm concerned, doubles is still always going

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Speaker 1: to be won by teams like that, because doubles is

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Speaker 1: taking away time, it's taking away angles and the women's

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Speaker 1: doubles these days. I mean, I don't want to shit

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Speaker 1: on it, but like you know, serving and staying back

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Speaker 1: and playing these rallies, and everyone's like, well, that's just

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Speaker 1: how it is now. No, it's not. If you're still

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Speaker 1: a great serving and volley or you can come into

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Speaker 1: the net, that's the teams that win. The teams that

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Speaker 1: win doubles still to this day are the ones that

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Speaker 1: are most aggressive at the net. They play percentage doubles

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Speaker 1: play and that's where you get it. And this, you know,

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Speaker 1: serving and staying back and playing fifty ball rallies and

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Speaker 1: doubles and just hitting lobs. It's so tough to watch

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Speaker 1: these days. And you know, so if anyone's out there

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Speaker 1: that wants to be really successful in doubles, and there's

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Speaker 1: so much money to be made in doubles. I mean,

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Speaker 1: the winner of the doubles Grand Sam is like three

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Speaker 1: hundred and fifty thousand dollars each. I'm like, so, if

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Speaker 1: you want to be successful in doubles, learn how to volley,

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Speaker 1: learn how to serve and volley, and learn how to

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Speaker 1: come into the net, because I'm telling you that's where

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Speaker 1: the money is made. And some of these you know

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Speaker 1: people that are still doing it and they're not even

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Speaker 1: great volleys. So listen, get out there, get to the net,

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Speaker 1: learn how to volley, because if you do that, you

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Speaker 1: can make a lot of money playing doubles only all.

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Speaker 2: Right, Well, anybody who listen to that advice and wins

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Speaker 2: professional doubles titles, you are now in the hole. You

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Speaker 2: have to pay Renee a fee for that piece of advice.

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Speaker 2: All right, doubles, thank you for joining the ATP. We'll

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Speaker 2: have another halfway through. Halfway through, we'll have another exciting

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Speaker 2: we'll have another podcast out before too long, with microphones,

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Speaker 2: because we love you guys and you deserve it.

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Speaker 1: Listeners, We got microphones for you guys. That's right, all right, Ronny,

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Speaker 1: thanks for listening. Bye bye,