WEBVTT - Jaguars Happy Hour: Thursday, January 27 0:00:01.920 --> 0:00:11.639 It is Thursday, Yes, Thursday, January. This is Jaguars Happy Hour. 0:00:13.160 --> 0:00:17.360 And now when questioned about the overtime rules, he said, dude, 0:00:17.800 --> 0:00:24.920 I'm salary. J P. D Yeah, that's a new meaning 0:00:25.000 --> 0:00:28.840 for free football. And welcome in. It's Jaguars Happy Hour 0:00:29.200 --> 0:00:32.280 from the home office today. J P. Shadrick with you. 0:00:32.320 --> 0:00:35.920 It's our first show back since the Monday after the 0:00:36.000 --> 0:00:40.320 regular season, and really nothing's changed since then. There's been 0:00:40.360 --> 0:00:43.800 a lot of tweeting and reporting going on, but the 0:00:43.920 --> 0:00:47.280 Jaguars are still without a head coach at this moment. 0:00:47.600 --> 0:00:50.120 We'll i get into that coming up. Busy show, of course, 0:00:50.760 --> 0:00:54.680 on a day like today, the coaching carousels spinning. A 0:00:54.760 --> 0:00:58.160 couple of teams around the league have secured their new 0:00:58.200 --> 0:01:02.319 head coach and including a couple of teams that had 0:01:02.640 --> 0:01:08.319 Jaguar candidates that were hired, the Bears and the Broncos. 0:01:08.360 --> 0:01:11.200 Will get to that coming up. The Jaguars search continues. 0:01:12.720 --> 0:01:14.399 There's not a lot of that. There's a lot of 0:01:14.400 --> 0:01:18.160 reporting coming out, but you know, who's really close to 0:01:18.200 --> 0:01:21.880 the situation, There aren't many. We'll say that. CBS Sports 0:01:21.880 --> 0:01:25.039 senior writer Pete Frisco. We'll hear from Pete get his 0:01:25.080 --> 0:01:27.320 thoughts on what's going on. I'm sure he has a few. 0:01:27.440 --> 0:01:30.720 Jaguars dot Com senior writer John Ozier joins us to 0:01:30.880 --> 0:01:34.200 give us his perspective on what has happened or what 0:01:34.360 --> 0:01:36.760 is happening for the Jaguars, and we'll hear from NFL 0:01:36.800 --> 0:01:40.120 Network analyst Bucky Brooks. He's out in Los Angeles, the 0:01:40.319 --> 0:01:43.920 Collegiate Bowl coming up. He'll have Shrine Bowl coverage coming 0:01:44.000 --> 0:01:46.520 up next week as well. He'll be very busy, of course, 0:01:47.160 --> 0:01:51.600 And that is our show ahead so well. Since we 0:01:51.720 --> 0:01:56.360 last convened, that was the Monday after the regular season. 0:01:56.400 --> 0:01:59.280 That was on Jaguars Happy Hour Prisco and Bisselli. We 0:01:59.360 --> 0:02:04.680 recapped the final win of the season, the the possibility 0:02:04.720 --> 0:02:07.120 of what could happen in the coaching search at that point. 0:02:08.000 --> 0:02:11.560 Since then, according to all the reports that you've read 0:02:11.600 --> 0:02:14.320 and seen on social media, the Jaguars have gone through 0:02:14.360 --> 0:02:17.560 the interview process. They have gone through it twice with 0:02:17.639 --> 0:02:20.560 a few different candidates. Now and what a few days 0:02:20.600 --> 0:02:23.359 it's been, of course on social media, some ups and downs, 0:02:24.040 --> 0:02:28.640 there was some changes, some plot twists, um you know, 0:02:29.040 --> 0:02:32.079 to to well, a couple of days ago now Byron left, 0:02:32.080 --> 0:02:35.320 which was apparently gonna be the guy and was the 0:02:35.400 --> 0:02:38.400 slam dunk and all this, and then that changed in 0:02:38.440 --> 0:02:42.680 an overnight period to maybe need Hacketts coming for a 0:02:42.760 --> 0:02:46.600 second interview. Then the Broncos took action and signed up 0:02:46.919 --> 0:02:50.919 Nathaniel Hackett, the former Jaguars offensive coordinator, as their head coach. 0:02:51.400 --> 0:02:55.480 Matt ever Flus is now with the Chicago Bears. He 0:02:55.520 --> 0:02:58.080 had been in the process with the Jaguars as well. 0:02:59.160 --> 0:03:01.560 And now it kind of goes back if you follow 0:03:01.639 --> 0:03:05.079 the tweets and the reports today, it's Byron Left, which 0:03:05.120 --> 0:03:07.799 back in the fold and reports today out of Arizona 0:03:07.840 --> 0:03:10.959 that Left which would be the coach, and Aaron Wilson 0:03:10.960 --> 0:03:13.639 would be GM. Well, the Jags have a GM right now. 0:03:13.680 --> 0:03:17.080 Trent Balky is the general manager. That's a report as 0:03:17.120 --> 0:03:20.560 of earlier today. Vic Fangio's name was thrown in the 0:03:20.639 --> 0:03:24.239 mix earlier today as well, the former Broncos coach of course, 0:03:24.280 --> 0:03:28.360 but later believed at least reported to be believed to 0:03:28.400 --> 0:03:31.400 be for a potential defensive coordinator role. So all this 0:03:31.520 --> 0:03:34.160 is going on at the same time. All this is 0:03:34.200 --> 0:03:37.040 happening now the Saints have requested to talk with Left, 0:03:37.080 --> 0:03:41.000 which so who who really knows how many are really 0:03:41.000 --> 0:03:43.600 close to this thing. That's a small group. But I 0:03:43.600 --> 0:03:45.160 haven't the name we haven't heard in a while either 0:03:45.200 --> 0:03:48.160 as Jim Caldwell. That was an early name in the process, 0:03:48.200 --> 0:03:51.560 and after that first go round really haven't heard much 0:03:51.600 --> 0:03:53.640 out of him. His name was in the hunt, I 0:03:53.680 --> 0:03:56.880 believe in Chicago, but since the Bears have made that 0:03:56.920 --> 0:04:00.520 move for Ebra, Fleus is coldwell back in play. At 0:04:00.560 --> 0:04:06.200 some point there eber Fleus and Byron left, which everybody 0:04:06.360 --> 0:04:08.160 that has been a jagg Arsan for a long time 0:04:08.200 --> 0:04:11.960 of Court, of course, understands and knows his history around here. 0:04:12.680 --> 0:04:16.000 Forty two years of age. He took some time off 0:04:16.040 --> 0:04:21.160 after he played and then got into coaching. Left which 0:04:21.200 --> 0:04:26.400 did as a coaching intern with the Arizona Cardinals and 0:04:26.440 --> 0:04:30.000 then latched on as an assistant there the quarterbacks coach 0:04:30.080 --> 0:04:32.160 one season. The next year he was the QB coach, 0:04:32.200 --> 0:04:34.159 and then the O C got whacked, so he took 0:04:34.200 --> 0:04:37.279 over the INTERIMOC duties and then the whole staff got whacked. 0:04:37.320 --> 0:04:40.960 After that season, he ended up in Tampa Bay with 0:04:41.120 --> 0:04:45.800 the Arians, of course, and Jamis Winston under his watch 0:04:45.800 --> 0:04:49.120 as the offensive coordinator through for over five thousand yards 0:04:49.320 --> 0:04:52.600 also through thirty interceptions that year, but he did throw 0:04:52.640 --> 0:04:54.960 for over five thousand yards. Then of course the last 0:04:55.000 --> 0:04:59.600 two seasons with Tom Brady as the quarterback in Tampa Bay. 0:05:00.320 --> 0:05:03.360 So it's been as the years have gone along, you've 0:05:03.400 --> 0:05:06.040 heard his name pop up in some of these discussions 0:05:06.760 --> 0:05:10.479 as a possible head coach candidate. But it feels like 0:05:10.520 --> 0:05:13.800 this is really the first off season at least that 0:05:13.839 --> 0:05:19.120 he has been um, you know, interviewed and maybe a 0:05:19.160 --> 0:05:22.200 few teams trying to talk to him. So I will 0:05:22.200 --> 0:05:25.800 see where this one goes. And you know, if you 0:05:26.000 --> 0:05:28.720 look at Twitter and follow the fan base there on 0:05:28.760 --> 0:05:32.760 board with Byron Leftwich so far. Um you know obviously 0:05:32.839 --> 0:05:37.200 was drafted here two thousand and three and spent four 0:05:37.279 --> 0:05:41.240 seasons here into the fifth offseason, but then it was 0:05:41.320 --> 0:05:44.480 cut right at the start of the season in two 0:05:44.520 --> 0:05:47.080 thousand seven, went on to a couple of different stints 0:05:47.080 --> 0:05:51.719 with the Steelers, and you know, it didn't have the 0:05:51.880 --> 0:05:55.919 greatest success in his time here statistically, it was banged 0:05:56.000 --> 0:06:00.280 up a little bit as well, and moved on to 0:06:00.480 --> 0:06:03.360 other things in his career as as his career moved on, 0:06:03.640 --> 0:06:06.320 and then, as we said, once his career ended. It 0:06:06.400 --> 0:06:09.120 was a few a few years off, played a lot 0:06:09.160 --> 0:06:11.679 of golf, he set in an interview not that long ago, 0:06:11.880 --> 0:06:14.360 and was up in d C and doing all that thing, 0:06:14.360 --> 0:06:16.039 and then decided to get back in coaching, and it 0:06:16.080 --> 0:06:20.680 has been a quick run um to the doorstep at 0:06:20.760 --> 0:06:24.159 least of a head coaching position in the NFL. What 0:06:24.200 --> 0:06:27.120 a story it would be, obviously for a guy from 0:06:27.360 --> 0:06:31.000 inner City Washington, d C. To work his way up 0:06:31.040 --> 0:06:34.760 from there as a young kid and then get to 0:06:34.800 --> 0:06:38.159 go to college at Marshall had a fantastic collegiate career there, 0:06:38.160 --> 0:06:40.880 of course, was a first round pick all that happened 0:06:40.880 --> 0:06:43.160 as a player, and then work his way up to 0:06:43.240 --> 0:06:48.120 coaching ranks again. If he somehow does get the Jaguars 0:06:48.240 --> 0:06:51.120 or another head coaching gig in the NFL, what a 0:06:51.200 --> 0:06:55.920 story that would be to complete for Byron Leftwich. So 0:06:56.040 --> 0:07:01.480 we'll see the conversations apparently continue will We're following Twitter 0:07:01.560 --> 0:07:04.440 just as you are, just to see if anything pops up, 0:07:04.480 --> 0:07:07.360 any new reports, But as of right now, there's nothing 0:07:07.440 --> 0:07:12.960 that knew this afternoon, But we'll see. I mean, I 0:07:13.000 --> 0:07:15.240 think there's gonna be a lot of talk we'll hear 0:07:15.240 --> 0:07:18.840 from Pete Prisco coming up, and John Osier and Bucky 0:07:18.920 --> 0:07:20.880 and those guys and get their thoughts on this. But 0:07:21.680 --> 0:07:24.320 the timing so far, there's been a lot made of 0:07:24.360 --> 0:07:27.360 the Jaguars being really the second team to fire their 0:07:27.400 --> 0:07:30.160 head coach this year. Of course, the Raiders were the first, 0:07:30.160 --> 0:07:32.920 but they had the interim coach in there, and they 0:07:32.920 --> 0:07:36.920 were on a playoff run, so they weren't worried about 0:07:37.800 --> 0:07:40.640 at least trying to get jump started early in the process. Well, 0:07:40.640 --> 0:07:42.720 the Jaguars had that two extra weeks to try to 0:07:42.760 --> 0:07:45.600 talk to candidates who are in the National Football League. 0:07:46.480 --> 0:07:48.920 I don't know, at least from one perspective, the era 0:07:49.000 --> 0:07:52.320 Flues perspective, Well, the Jaguars are playing the Colts in 0:07:52.320 --> 0:07:55.240 one of those weeks two end the season, so uh, 0:07:55.240 --> 0:07:58.080 he requested to move it back a little further. So 0:07:59.160 --> 0:08:01.280 you know, there there were nine openings at the end 0:08:01.320 --> 0:08:04.200 of the day the other day when Sean Payton stepped 0:08:04.240 --> 0:08:07.040 down in New Orleans. Now with two field there are 0:08:07.120 --> 0:08:11.600 seven open So yeah, they're not the first team to hire. 0:08:12.240 --> 0:08:14.600 I'm gonna guess they probably won't be the last team 0:08:14.640 --> 0:08:17.600 to hire. I think the timing is what it is. 0:08:17.640 --> 0:08:19.960 I don't I don't. I just don't think you have 0:08:20.000 --> 0:08:23.160 to rush this thing, and I certainly don't think shod 0:08:23.240 --> 0:08:25.280 Khan is worried about rushing and he wants to get 0:08:25.320 --> 0:08:28.160 it right. I felt like he did before he did 0:08:28.800 --> 0:08:32.319 and it didn't work out, obviously, So doing the due diligence, 0:08:33.080 --> 0:08:37.080 doubling up on some interviews, taking the time to do that, 0:08:37.640 --> 0:08:39.720 I think is what's happening right now. That's why it's 0:08:39.960 --> 0:08:43.640 January at the moment and there's no head coach. We're 0:08:43.679 --> 0:08:45.720 all looking at that chimney though for the white smoke 0:08:45.800 --> 0:08:48.520 to come out to see if there's a new head coach, 0:08:48.960 --> 0:08:53.200 and we'll see it's uh, it'll be um, you know, 0:08:53.440 --> 0:08:56.400 it could be today, it could be uh, any time 0:08:56.440 --> 0:08:58.520 in the air, next week or two. I mean, there's 0:08:58.559 --> 0:09:01.240 really not a huge rush in this, but you do 0:09:01.280 --> 0:09:03.679 want to get it in place in time to go 0:09:04.160 --> 0:09:07.480 find those assistant coaches, figure out who's on staff. Now. 0:09:07.520 --> 0:09:10.640 You want to keep around obviously because they're all still 0:09:10.679 --> 0:09:13.439 under contract and in the building and working and doing things. 0:09:13.480 --> 0:09:17.320 But um, the quicker you can figure that thing out, 0:09:17.400 --> 0:09:20.240 then you can move forward to free agency and and 0:09:20.320 --> 0:09:22.400 figure out what the building is really gonna feel like 0:09:22.520 --> 0:09:27.520 and and look like so um. No new news to report, 0:09:27.600 --> 0:09:30.360 but plenty to discuss. Of course, we are off and 0:09:30.440 --> 0:09:32.960 running on Jaguars Happy Hour. We will come back in 0:09:33.040 --> 0:09:35.880 just a moment. And here from CBS Sports Senior writer 0:09:35.960 --> 0:09:39.160 Pete Prisco. He's our co host on Monday's during the season. 0:09:40.480 --> 0:09:42.800 He was on our last show since we've been on air. 0:09:42.880 --> 0:09:45.720 So we will hear from Pete and get his perspective 0:09:45.760 --> 0:09:49.079 of what's happened for the Jaguars and all of the 0:09:49.120 --> 0:09:52.599 news and tweets over the last forty eight hours. A 0:09:52.679 --> 0:09:55.520 little later, John Ozer, Jaguars dot Com senior writer, and 0:09:55.520 --> 0:09:59.160 we'll hear from Bucky Brooks, NFL network analysts. We're often 0:09:59.240 --> 0:10:02.119 rounting as jaguar is Happy Hour on a Thursday afternoon 0:10:02.160 --> 0:10:12.920 on the Jaguars Digital Network. Welcome back. It's Jaguars Happy 0:10:13.000 --> 0:10:17.040 Hour on Thursday afternoon, our first show since the day 0:10:17.080 --> 0:10:20.439 after the regular season. J. P. Shadrick from the home office. 0:10:21.280 --> 0:10:25.280 Some close contact issues, nothing bad over here. I hope 0:10:25.320 --> 0:10:28.079 everybody's doing well. Glad you're back with us. Of course, 0:10:28.640 --> 0:10:31.480 a lot going on for the Jaguars. Coaching search continues. 0:10:31.880 --> 0:10:34.360 It's been a busy couple of weeks on social media. 0:10:34.400 --> 0:10:36.360 It's really heated up over the last couple of days. 0:10:36.480 --> 0:10:41.000 It feels like, let's check in with CBS Sports senior 0:10:41.000 --> 0:10:44.680 writer Pete Prisco, He joins us now over the phone. Pete, 0:10:44.720 --> 0:10:48.040 good afternoon to you. What's up man? What's up? J 0:10:48.120 --> 0:10:50.679 p JP. You're like a close contact, like every two day. 0:10:50.720 --> 0:10:55.559 I thank you day. I don't know what's going on 0:10:57.160 --> 0:11:00.720 the office. Hey, I don't know, man. The rules are 0:11:00.720 --> 0:11:03.520 the rules, Pete. That's what it is. I know. I'm 0:11:03.559 --> 0:11:05.679 a better safe than sorry. I know, I get it. 0:11:05.760 --> 0:11:08.200 I understand. Yeah, that's what it is. Just can't go 0:11:08.240 --> 0:11:10.600 in the building, but I can do everything else. So 0:11:10.840 --> 0:11:13.720 and feeling okay, So that's a good thing. So, uh, 0:11:13.760 --> 0:11:16.040 there are not a lot of jazz fans feeling okay 0:11:16.120 --> 0:11:20.160 right now with everything has happened over the last two days, 0:11:20.240 --> 0:11:23.839 three days or so. It is. Um, it's a carousel 0:11:24.040 --> 0:11:26.679 spinning on this tweet deck thing that I'm looking at 0:11:26.760 --> 0:11:30.559 right now, Pete, And um, what's the latest you? What 0:11:31.280 --> 0:11:33.080 is this left? Which thing going to happen or what? 0:11:34.240 --> 0:11:36.800 Here's what I have to say to everybody. Just calm down, 0:11:37.480 --> 0:11:40.880 Let's let the whole process play out. I mean it's just, 0:11:41.200 --> 0:11:43.920 you know, everybody looked. I love Byron Leftwich Is He's 0:11:43.920 --> 0:11:46.360 one of my favorite guys I've ever been around. Is. 0:11:46.400 --> 0:11:48.720 It relates to that team. And when he was there, 0:11:48.720 --> 0:11:50.920 he took a beating from the public. Um. You know, 0:11:50.960 --> 0:11:52.840 it was never the quarterback. Everybody thought he would be 0:11:53.559 --> 0:11:56.840 great human being, handled himself with class, always did that, 0:11:56.920 --> 0:11:58.960 worked his butt off, and I think he'd be a 0:11:58.960 --> 0:12:01.800 hell of a coach for this the organization. But let's 0:12:01.840 --> 0:12:04.760 let it play out. There's a thing called negotiation. I mean, 0:12:05.160 --> 0:12:08.319 that's what they're doing. They're negotiating. And you know, it's 0:12:08.320 --> 0:12:11.600 funny Nate Hackett goes to Denver and all of a sudden, 0:12:11.600 --> 0:12:13.800 everybody in Jacksonville's all up in arms. Oh my god, 0:12:13.840 --> 0:12:16.600 they let him get away that that what how many 0:12:16.600 --> 0:12:18.959 of those same people were sitting in those stands ripping 0:12:19.040 --> 0:12:21.520 Nate Hackett when he was the offensive coordinator back in 0:12:21.600 --> 0:12:24.160 the day. You know, So just let it play out, 0:12:24.400 --> 0:12:27.880 let it see what happens, and uh, ultimately they'll get 0:12:27.920 --> 0:12:30.000 the guy that they think is the right guy. I 0:12:30.000 --> 0:12:32.160 don't think any of the guys that they, you know, 0:12:32.240 --> 0:12:34.319 thought was the right guy. They would have had them already, 0:12:34.840 --> 0:12:37.240 and that's how I feel. I think they would have 0:12:37.320 --> 0:12:39.640 locked them up. So let it play out. As far 0:12:39.679 --> 0:12:41.560 as Trent Fawky in the building, would I have him 0:12:41.600 --> 0:12:43.960 in the building? No, what I have kept them around 0:12:44.000 --> 0:12:46.600 for part of the process, absolutely, because you needed somebody 0:12:46.640 --> 0:12:48.760 to ask the football questions. That made all the sense 0:12:48.800 --> 0:12:51.280 in the world. Now, whether he's there for the long run, 0:12:51.679 --> 0:12:53.800 that's to be determined. I wouldn't keep him there for 0:12:53.800 --> 0:12:57.240 the long run. Uh, ultimately maybe they won't. But but 0:12:57.320 --> 0:12:59.120 let the process play out. They have to, you know, 0:12:59.160 --> 0:13:01.280 they have to go siate with whoever they are bringing 0:13:01.320 --> 0:13:06.560 in there. Obviously today that the Saints apparently asked to 0:13:06.679 --> 0:13:09.920 speak with Left, which as well, um, and then so 0:13:09.960 --> 0:13:13.000 that opens up another thing of negotiation and all that. 0:13:13.000 --> 0:13:15.160 It's kind of what happened in Denver. Right here, Hey, 0:13:15.160 --> 0:13:17.040 Hackett is about to go interview for a second time 0:13:17.040 --> 0:13:19.199 with Jacksonville. We need to get this thing done in Denver, 0:13:19.280 --> 0:13:22.199 and they got Nate Hackett done. Let's see if the 0:13:22.320 --> 0:13:25.360 kind of move some things here. If if for some reason, 0:13:25.640 --> 0:13:30.880 Left which is not in play, where do they go. Well, 0:13:30.920 --> 0:13:33.079 I would go back to Jim Caldwell. That's where I 0:13:33.080 --> 0:13:35.200 would go Um, I know Jim Caldwell is not a 0:13:35.200 --> 0:13:38.080 young man. He's sixty six years old. But he's a 0:13:38.120 --> 0:13:40.600 perfect guy to bring me into that building. I think 0:13:40.600 --> 0:13:42.720 he would have. He is the right demeanor. He's great 0:13:42.720 --> 0:13:44.720 with quarterbacks. Go back and look at his track record. 0:13:44.760 --> 0:13:48.840 He's been outstanding with quarterbacks, developing them, coaching them the 0:13:48.880 --> 0:13:51.800 whole process and any and he's a good man and 0:13:52.320 --> 0:13:54.679 I think that would be welcomed inside that building. So 0:13:55.400 --> 0:13:58.200 I would look for him. Um, you know, as far 0:13:58.240 --> 0:14:01.360 as you know, they the stuff that Fangio, I don't 0:14:01.440 --> 0:14:04.000 get that unless you're bringing them in as the defensive coordinator. 0:14:04.040 --> 0:14:06.320 If you do hire a Byron and I don't know 0:14:06.360 --> 0:14:09.600 if Byron and Ncanro have much of relationship. And I 0:14:09.600 --> 0:14:12.040 don't ever want to see a force a coach to 0:14:12.120 --> 0:14:14.360 hire somebody he doesn't want, So that wouldn't be a 0:14:14.360 --> 0:14:18.280 good situation unless he wanted them there. But I think 0:14:18.320 --> 0:14:20.240 they you know, they start, they go back. There's a 0:14:20.280 --> 0:14:21.760 lot of good coaches out there. You gotta get the 0:14:21.880 --> 0:14:24.720 right one. And I always go back to the when 0:14:24.720 --> 0:14:29.680 the Eagles hired hired Syriani. Everybody panned it. Everybody did, 0:14:29.720 --> 0:14:32.440 Oh how they waited They got the worst guy. We 0:14:32.520 --> 0:14:35.000 had a pretty darn good rookie for first year with 0:14:35.040 --> 0:14:37.760 the with the Eagles, didn't he So get the right guy. 0:14:37.880 --> 0:14:41.280 And and here's one one other thing, this whole idea 0:14:41.360 --> 0:14:43.800 that the guy you hire has to be a great 0:14:43.800 --> 0:14:48.400 play caller, great defensive coordinator. I never have bought into that. 0:14:49.520 --> 0:14:52.440 You know why, JP this guy who's going to manage 0:14:52.440 --> 0:14:56.440 the people, manage the coaches, let the coaches coach, and 0:14:56.480 --> 0:14:58.720 have a good culture in the building. You don't need 0:14:59.440 --> 0:15:01.200 to have a guy who's an ex is and those guys, 0:15:01.280 --> 0:15:04.880 I mean, John Harbaugh isn't, Mike Tomlin isn't. I mean, 0:15:04.920 --> 0:15:06.720 you can have a guy who's just a darn good 0:15:06.720 --> 0:15:10.040 coach who lets his coach his coach. And that's I mean, 0:15:10.240 --> 0:15:13.160 especially for this organization right now. I mean that they're 0:15:13.200 --> 0:15:17.560 in desperate need of a retooling of of what it 0:15:17.640 --> 0:15:20.800 is to be a Jaguar, right and and the organization 0:15:20.800 --> 0:15:23.280 as a whole. So, yeah, you can have some of 0:15:23.320 --> 0:15:25.320 the dolls up plays and all that, but you need 0:15:25.400 --> 0:15:30.080 a bigger picture. Look at this thing. It feels like, yes, 0:15:30.160 --> 0:15:33.120 you definitely do. And I look, you can go back 0:15:33.160 --> 0:15:36.680 to um when when the Urban Meyer was a coach 0:15:36.720 --> 0:15:39.440 who didn't have any acting those but he wasn't a 0:15:39.480 --> 0:15:42.880 good those guys and that backfired on him, so it 0:15:42.920 --> 0:15:44.760 didn't work out. But that doesn't mean you can't go 0:15:44.800 --> 0:15:47.000 get the right guy to lead, to lead the coaches 0:15:47.000 --> 0:15:50.400 and let them coach again. Um. I think there's people 0:15:50.440 --> 0:15:51.840 out there. I mean, Jim called we will be one 0:15:51.880 --> 0:15:54.200 of them. I think Jim called Well would probably hire 0:15:54.200 --> 0:15:55.920 a guy to call plays. I don't necessarily know that 0:15:55.960 --> 0:15:58.160 he would call plays again, but he would be an 0:15:58.160 --> 0:16:02.120 overseer inside the building and that would work. So if 0:16:02.120 --> 0:16:03.920 you don't get Byron, I think that's what you have 0:16:03.960 --> 0:16:05.560 to do. You go back to the drawing board. Find 0:16:05.600 --> 0:16:07.480 another guy there. There are a lot of good coaches 0:16:07.480 --> 0:16:11.320 out there who are begging for an opportunity to lead. 0:16:11.400 --> 0:16:12.920 I think that if you get a guy you can 0:16:13.000 --> 0:16:14.360 you can make it work. It just has to be 0:16:14.400 --> 0:16:16.640 the right guy. And oh, by the way, you need 0:16:16.640 --> 0:16:20.760 the quarterback. If State Hackett, if Nate Hackett doesn't get 0:16:20.800 --> 0:16:23.120 Aaron Rodgers or doesn't solve the quarterback position, you're not 0:16:23.120 --> 0:16:26.560 gonna be around it Denver for very long. But Jacksonville, 0:16:26.600 --> 0:16:28.480 you know you have the quarterback. You have Trevor Lawrence, 0:16:28.480 --> 0:16:30.320 and that should be an attraction that should make that 0:16:30.400 --> 0:16:34.320 job something that most people want. I personally, JP would 0:16:34.320 --> 0:16:36.240 have hired a four A guy with a forty Niners 0:16:36.480 --> 0:16:39.280 you know, uh, Kyle Shanahan background. And the reason I 0:16:39.320 --> 0:16:43.120 say that, I think that offense would be perfect, perfect 0:16:43.920 --> 0:16:46.000 for Trevor Lawrence. You run the ball, you get his 0:16:46.120 --> 0:16:48.280 own read, you get him on the move, you make plays. 0:16:48.800 --> 0:16:50.960 Uh that way, you sneak out the tight end, just 0:16:51.000 --> 0:16:52.800 like the forty Niners always doing. They gotta fight a 0:16:52.880 --> 0:16:54.800 tight end, but you can do that. Dan Arnold can 0:16:54.800 --> 0:16:56.680 be a good tight end. They need another one. But 0:16:57.320 --> 0:16:59.240 I just think there's ways around it. So if you 0:16:59.280 --> 0:17:01.040 don't get Byron, there are all the coaches out there, 0:17:01.080 --> 0:17:04.240 go find the right one. Pete Prisco with a CBS 0:17:04.240 --> 0:17:07.879 Sports senior writer. As for the timing of this, Pete, 0:17:08.560 --> 0:17:10.719 we mentioned it earlier before you came on. I mean, 0:17:10.760 --> 0:17:13.040 the Jaguars were the second team to fire their head 0:17:13.040 --> 0:17:15.320 coach this season. Of course, the Raiders were the first. 0:17:15.840 --> 0:17:17.920 They had the interim, they were in the playoff race 0:17:18.000 --> 0:17:20.240 and got in the postseason and then so they weren't 0:17:20.240 --> 0:17:22.320 worried about that two week window. The Jaguars had the 0:17:22.320 --> 0:17:26.600 two week window to work with, and now they are 0:17:26.680 --> 0:17:30.080 not the first to hire the Bears and the Broncos 0:17:30.119 --> 0:17:33.240 apparently have. Are you concerned at all at the timing 0:17:33.280 --> 0:17:35.359 of this? I mean, how quickly do you need to 0:17:35.400 --> 0:17:38.399 get this wrapt up? Obviously you want the right higher 0:17:38.400 --> 0:17:40.640 and the right person in the right field and everything 0:17:40.680 --> 0:17:44.440 that goes around it. Um, But at some point does 0:17:44.480 --> 0:17:46.960 the clock start ticking to go find some of these 0:17:46.960 --> 0:17:50.720 assistant coaches? Well, the clock's ticking now because the senior 0:17:50.720 --> 0:17:54.399 goals next week. And I think that's important for your staff, 0:17:54.400 --> 0:17:56.760 Your coach, whoever it is, has to be there, has 0:17:56.800 --> 0:17:58.879 to be around, has to be able to go see players. 0:17:58.920 --> 0:18:00.959 I think, you know, that's the that's the marquee All 0:18:00.960 --> 0:18:03.240 Star game. That's when you start evaluating the guy, really 0:18:03.240 --> 0:18:06.520 evaluating the guys in the draft up close, getting to 0:18:06.520 --> 0:18:08.879 see him plactice and play. And so yeah, I think 0:18:08.920 --> 0:18:11.560 it's important by next week and and I think they'll 0:18:11.600 --> 0:18:13.320 do it in the next couple of days. You know. 0:18:13.440 --> 0:18:15.320 Here's the other thing, and I'm gonna remind people of this. 0:18:15.640 --> 0:18:20.080 When Tom Coughlin was hired, that wasn't exactly a warm 0:18:20.119 --> 0:18:22.399 and fuzzy Hiring met by a lot of people in 0:18:22.400 --> 0:18:25.400 that city or elsewhere. He was a college coach at 0:18:25.440 --> 0:18:28.280 BC who had had some time in the National Football League. 0:18:28.640 --> 0:18:31.720 They tried the land a big fish, Jimmy Johnson. They 0:18:31.760 --> 0:18:33.560 I mean they met with him on a boat down 0:18:33.560 --> 0:18:36.920 in Fort Lauderdale and tried to get Jimmy Johnson away 0:18:36.920 --> 0:18:38.960 from the Cowboys. And the league found out about it 0:18:39.000 --> 0:18:41.760 and get there was some talk of a tampering charge. 0:18:42.040 --> 0:18:43.919 They went after Tony Dungee. They had a bunch of 0:18:43.920 --> 0:18:46.440 other guys. Tom Coughlin was not a guy that was 0:18:46.480 --> 0:18:49.720 a marquee guy. That worked out pretty well for him, 0:18:49.760 --> 0:18:52.000 and he's a Hall of Fame coach in my mind. 0:18:52.320 --> 0:18:54.080 And so you get the right guy, you don't have 0:18:54.080 --> 0:18:55.840 to rush it. Take your time, get the right guy, 0:18:55.880 --> 0:18:59.000 but get it before Monday because Senior Bowl stars. Yeah, 0:18:59.000 --> 0:19:00.639 that's right. Brat Is Are you gonna be in the 0:19:00.680 --> 0:19:03.760 Senior Bowl peat? No, we have a couple other guys 0:19:03.800 --> 0:19:05.720 going our draft guy goes Ever. I used to go 0:19:05.760 --> 0:19:08.880 all the time. I enjoyed it. Back in the day. 0:19:08.960 --> 0:19:12.320 I remember one time when this is a good story 0:19:12.400 --> 0:19:14.960 called back in the day, used to be able to 0:19:14.960 --> 0:19:16.520 get right in the middle of the drills on the 0:19:16.520 --> 0:19:19.640 field of media too, and so Coughlin and the scouting 0:19:19.680 --> 0:19:22.840 guy Rick Reapers were watching linebacker drills after they had 0:19:22.880 --> 0:19:26.359 just gotten I think beat by the Titans um and 0:19:27.160 --> 0:19:29.919 that year and and so al Wilson went on to 0:19:29.920 --> 0:19:32.399 be a really good player with the Denver Broncos. Was 0:19:32.400 --> 0:19:35.080 a linebacker for the from the University of Tennessee. And 0:19:35.119 --> 0:19:36.760 he thumped the guy in a one on one drill 0:19:36.800 --> 0:19:38.280 and I walked over when I go seeing that's the 0:19:38.280 --> 0:19:40.640 way a linebacker is supposed to play. Your con looked 0:19:40.640 --> 0:19:48.120 at me, threw me off of his day. I love it. So, yeah, 0:19:48.160 --> 0:19:49.800 we'll miss you there. We're gonna be over there, or 0:19:49.800 --> 0:19:53.639 at least for planning to unless there's some coaching announcement 0:19:53.760 --> 0:19:56.000 or something. Next week, we're planning on going to cover 0:19:56.080 --> 0:19:59.040 the Senior Bowls. So you ever, do you ever go 0:19:59.119 --> 0:20:01.119 to the used to have this food jubilie? Did they 0:20:01.160 --> 0:20:04.360 still have that? I think they still do, but it's 0:20:04.400 --> 0:20:06.040 so early in the week we're not going to make 0:20:06.040 --> 0:20:08.840 it to that. Unfortunately. That was always that was always 0:20:08.880 --> 0:20:11.679 the best thing before the Senor Bowl because all the 0:20:11.720 --> 0:20:14.000 coaches were there and you had you know, everybody was 0:20:14.040 --> 0:20:16.400 having a few cocktails and he got a little loosen. 0:20:16.640 --> 0:20:19.400 Lips got loose, and I remember me and John Oshan 0:20:19.440 --> 0:20:22.399 can tell his story too, and they were cough and 0:20:22.480 --> 0:20:25.119 started like directing the woman on how to put the 0:20:25.160 --> 0:20:27.760 plates up for the boop a fa or something. So 0:20:27.840 --> 0:20:31.960 it's crazy. Of course he did. Of course he did well, Pete. 0:20:32.160 --> 0:20:34.520 Thanks for the insight. We appreciate your time as always, 0:20:34.640 --> 0:20:37.200 Van And let's see, I mean, we'll see what the 0:20:37.280 --> 0:20:40.440 next few days holds. Do you think Lax Jax and 0:20:40.520 --> 0:20:43.200 Bill relax. You'll get a guy and he's gonna probably 0:20:43.240 --> 0:20:45.240 be a good coach. I mean, it's just because you 0:20:45.280 --> 0:20:47.800 don't know who he is. If you don't get Biro. Look, 0:20:47.840 --> 0:20:50.080 I want Byron there as much as anybody. I love Byron. 0:20:50.119 --> 0:20:51.760 But if you don't get him, you go find another guy. 0:20:51.800 --> 0:20:52.960 It's not the end of the world. You get the 0:20:53.040 --> 0:20:58.280