Speaker 1: It is Thursday, Yes, Thursday, January. This is Jaguars Happy Hour.
Speaker 1: And now when questioned about the overtime rules, he said, dude,
Speaker 1: I'm salary. J P. D Yeah, that's a new meaning
Speaker 1: for free football. And welcome in. It's Jaguars Happy Hour
Speaker 1: from the home office today. J P. Shadrick with you.
Speaker 1: It's our first show back since the Monday after the
Speaker 1: regular season, and really nothing's changed since then. There's been
Speaker 1: a lot of tweeting and reporting going on, but the
Speaker 1: Jaguars are still without a head coach at this moment.
Speaker 1: We'll i get into that coming up. Busy show, of course,
Speaker 1: on a day like today, the coaching carousels spinning. A
Speaker 1: couple of teams around the league have secured their new
Speaker 1: head coach and including a couple of teams that had
Speaker 1: Jaguar candidates that were hired, the Bears and the Broncos.
Speaker 1: Will get to that coming up. The Jaguars search continues.
Speaker 1: There's not a lot of that. There's a lot of
Speaker 1: reporting coming out, but you know, who's really close to
Speaker 1: the situation, There aren't many. We'll say that. CBS Sports
Speaker 1: senior writer Pete Frisco. We'll hear from Pete get his
Speaker 1: thoughts on what's going on. I'm sure he has a few.
Speaker 1: Jaguars dot Com senior writer John Ozier joins us to
Speaker 1: give us his perspective on what has happened or what
Speaker 1: is happening for the Jaguars, and we'll hear from NFL
Speaker 1: Network analyst Bucky Brooks. He's out in Los Angeles, the
Speaker 1: Collegiate Bowl coming up. He'll have Shrine Bowl coverage coming
Speaker 1: up next week as well. He'll be very busy, of course,
Speaker 1: And that is our show ahead so well. Since we
Speaker 1: last convened, that was the Monday after the regular season.
Speaker 1: That was on Jaguars Happy Hour Prisco and Bisselli. We
Speaker 1: recapped the final win of the season, the the possibility
Speaker 1: of what could happen in the coaching search at that point.
Speaker 1: Since then, according to all the reports that you've read
Speaker 1: and seen on social media, the Jaguars have gone through
Speaker 1: the interview process. They have gone through it twice with
Speaker 1: a few different candidates. Now and what a few days
Speaker 1: it's been, of course on social media, some ups and downs,
Speaker 1: there was some changes, some plot twists, um you know,
Speaker 1: to to well, a couple of days ago now Byron left,
Speaker 1: which was apparently gonna be the guy and was the
Speaker 1: slam dunk and all this, and then that changed in
Speaker 1: an overnight period to maybe need Hacketts coming for a
Speaker 1: second interview. Then the Broncos took action and signed up
Speaker 1: Nathaniel Hackett, the former Jaguars offensive coordinator, as their head coach.
Speaker 1: Matt ever Flus is now with the Chicago Bears. He
Speaker 1: had been in the process with the Jaguars as well.
Speaker 1: And now it kind of goes back if you follow
Speaker 1: the tweets and the reports today, it's Byron Left, which
Speaker 1: back in the fold and reports today out of Arizona
Speaker 1: that Left which would be the coach, and Aaron Wilson
Speaker 1: would be GM. Well, the Jags have a GM right now.
Speaker 1: Trent Balky is the general manager. That's a report as
Speaker 1: of earlier today. Vic Fangio's name was thrown in the
Speaker 1: mix earlier today as well, the former Broncos coach of course,
Speaker 1: but later believed at least reported to be believed to
Speaker 1: be for a potential defensive coordinator role. So all this
Speaker 1: is going on at the same time. All this is
Speaker 1: happening now the Saints have requested to talk with Left,
Speaker 1: which so who who really knows how many are really
Speaker 1: close to this thing. That's a small group. But I
Speaker 1: haven't the name we haven't heard in a while either
Speaker 1: as Jim Caldwell. That was an early name in the process,
Speaker 1: and after that first go round really haven't heard much
Speaker 1: out of him. His name was in the hunt, I
Speaker 1: believe in Chicago, but since the Bears have made that
Speaker 1: move for Ebra, Fleus is coldwell back in play. At
Speaker 1: some point there eber Fleus and Byron left, which everybody
Speaker 1: that has been a jagg Arsan for a long time
Speaker 1: of Court, of course, understands and knows his history around here.
Speaker 1: Forty two years of age. He took some time off
Speaker 1: after he played and then got into coaching. Left which
Speaker 1: did as a coaching intern with the Arizona Cardinals and
Speaker 1: then latched on as an assistant there the quarterbacks coach
Speaker 1: one season. The next year he was the QB coach,
Speaker 1: and then the O C got whacked, so he took
Speaker 1: over the INTERIMOC duties and then the whole staff got whacked.
Speaker 1: After that season, he ended up in Tampa Bay with
Speaker 1: the Arians, of course, and Jamis Winston under his watch
Speaker 1: as the offensive coordinator through for over five thousand yards
Speaker 1: also through thirty interceptions that year, but he did throw
Speaker 1: for over five thousand yards. Then of course the last
Speaker 1: two seasons with Tom Brady as the quarterback in Tampa Bay.
Speaker 1: So it's been as the years have gone along, you've
Speaker 1: heard his name pop up in some of these discussions
Speaker 1: as a possible head coach candidate. But it feels like
Speaker 1: this is really the first off season at least that
Speaker 1: he has been um, you know, interviewed and maybe a
Speaker 1: few teams trying to talk to him. So I will
Speaker 1: see where this one goes. And you know, if you
Speaker 1: look at Twitter and follow the fan base there on
Speaker 1: board with Byron Leftwich so far. Um you know obviously
Speaker 1: was drafted here two thousand and three and spent four
Speaker 1: seasons here into the fifth offseason, but then it was
Speaker 1: cut right at the start of the season in two
Speaker 1: thousand seven, went on to a couple of different stints
Speaker 1: with the Steelers, and you know, it didn't have the
Speaker 1: greatest success in his time here statistically, it was banged
Speaker 1: up a little bit as well, and moved on to
Speaker 1: other things in his career as as his career moved on,
Speaker 1: and then, as we said, once his career ended. It
Speaker 1: was a few a few years off, played a lot
Speaker 1: of golf, he set in an interview not that long ago,
Speaker 1: and was up in d C and doing all that thing,
Speaker 1: and then decided to get back in coaching, and it
Speaker 1: has been a quick run um to the doorstep at
Speaker 1: least of a head coaching position in the NFL. What
Speaker 1: a story it would be, obviously for a guy from
Speaker 1: inner City Washington, d C. To work his way up
Speaker 1: from there as a young kid and then get to
Speaker 1: go to college at Marshall had a fantastic collegiate career there,
Speaker 1: of course, was a first round pick all that happened
Speaker 1: as a player, and then work his way up to
Speaker 1: coaching ranks again. If he somehow does get the Jaguars
Speaker 1: or another head coaching gig in the NFL, what a
Speaker 1: story that would be to complete for Byron Leftwich. So
Speaker 1: we'll see the conversations apparently continue will We're following Twitter
Speaker 1: just as you are, just to see if anything pops up,
Speaker 1: any new reports, But as of right now, there's nothing
Speaker 1: that knew this afternoon, But we'll see. I mean, I
Speaker 1: think there's gonna be a lot of talk we'll hear
Speaker 1: from Pete Prisco coming up, and John Osier and Bucky
Speaker 1: and those guys and get their thoughts on this. But
Speaker 1: the timing so far, there's been a lot made of
Speaker 1: the Jaguars being really the second team to fire their
Speaker 1: head coach this year. Of course, the Raiders were the first,
Speaker 1: but they had the interim coach in there, and they
Speaker 1: were on a playoff run, so they weren't worried about
Speaker 1: at least trying to get jump started early in the process. Well,
Speaker 1: the Jaguars had that two extra weeks to try to
Speaker 1: talk to candidates who are in the National Football League.
Speaker 1: I don't know, at least from one perspective, the era
Speaker 1: Flues perspective, Well, the Jaguars are playing the Colts in
Speaker 1: one of those weeks two end the season, so uh,
Speaker 1: he requested to move it back a little further. So
Speaker 1: you know, there there were nine openings at the end
Speaker 1: of the day the other day when Sean Payton stepped
Speaker 1: down in New Orleans. Now with two field there are
Speaker 1: seven open So yeah, they're not the first team to hire.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna guess they probably won't be the last team
Speaker 1: to hire. I think the timing is what it is.
Speaker 1: I don't I don't. I just don't think you have
Speaker 1: to rush this thing, and I certainly don't think shod
Speaker 1: Khan is worried about rushing and he wants to get
Speaker 1: it right. I felt like he did before he did
Speaker 1: and it didn't work out, obviously, So doing the due diligence,
Speaker 1: doubling up on some interviews, taking the time to do that,
Speaker 1: I think is what's happening right now. That's why it's
Speaker 1: January at the moment and there's no head coach. We're
Speaker 1: all looking at that chimney though for the white smoke
Speaker 1: to come out to see if there's a new head coach,
Speaker 1: and we'll see it's uh, it'll be um, you know,
Speaker 1: it could be today, it could be uh, any time
Speaker 1: in the air, next week or two. I mean, there's
Speaker 1: really not a huge rush in this, but you do
Speaker 1: want to get it in place in time to go
Speaker 1: find those assistant coaches, figure out who's on staff. Now.
Speaker 1: You want to keep around obviously because they're all still
Speaker 1: under contract and in the building and working and doing things.
Speaker 1: But um, the quicker you can figure that thing out,
Speaker 1: then you can move forward to free agency and and
Speaker 1: figure out what the building is really gonna feel like
Speaker 1: and and look like so um. No new news to report,
Speaker 1: but plenty to discuss. Of course, we are off and
Speaker 1: running on Jaguars Happy Hour. We will come back in
Speaker 1: just a moment. And here from CBS Sports Senior writer
Speaker 1: Pete Prisco. He's our co host on Monday's during the season.
Speaker 1: He was on our last show since we've been on air.
Speaker 1: So we will hear from Pete and get his perspective
Speaker 1: of what's happened for the Jaguars and all of the
Speaker 1: news and tweets over the last forty eight hours. A
Speaker 1: little later, John Ozer, Jaguars dot Com senior writer, and
Speaker 1: we'll hear from Bucky Brooks, NFL network analysts. We're often
Speaker 1: rounting as jaguar is Happy Hour on a Thursday afternoon
Speaker 1: on the Jaguars Digital Network. Welcome back. It's Jaguars Happy
Speaker 1: Hour on Thursday afternoon, our first show since the day
Speaker 1: after the regular season. J. P. Shadrick from the home office.
Speaker 1: Some close contact issues, nothing bad over here. I hope
Speaker 1: everybody's doing well. Glad you're back with us. Of course,
Speaker 1: a lot going on for the Jaguars. Coaching search continues.
Speaker 1: It's been a busy couple of weeks on social media.
Speaker 1: It's really heated up over the last couple of days.
Speaker 1: It feels like, let's check in with CBS Sports senior
Speaker 1: writer Pete Prisco, He joins us now over the phone. Pete,
Speaker 1: good afternoon to you. What's up man? What's up? J
Speaker 1: p JP. You're like a close contact, like every two day.
Speaker 1: I thank you day. I don't know what's going on
Speaker 1: the office. Hey, I don't know, man. The rules are
Speaker 1: the rules, Pete. That's what it is. I know. I'm
Speaker 1: a better safe than sorry. I know, I get it.
Speaker 1: I understand. Yeah, that's what it is. Just can't go
Speaker 1: in the building, but I can do everything else. So
Speaker 1: and feeling okay, So that's a good thing. So, uh,
Speaker 1: there are not a lot of jazz fans feeling okay
Speaker 1: right now with everything has happened over the last two days,
Speaker 1: three days or so. It is. Um, it's a carousel
Speaker 1: spinning on this tweet deck thing that I'm looking at
Speaker 1: right now, Pete, And um, what's the latest you? What
Speaker 1: is this left? Which thing going to happen or what?
Speaker 1: Here's what I have to say to everybody. Just calm down,
Speaker 1: Let's let the whole process play out. I mean it's just,
Speaker 1: you know, everybody looked. I love Byron Leftwich Is He's
Speaker 1: one of my favorite guys I've ever been around. Is.
Speaker 1: It relates to that team. And when he was there,
Speaker 1: he took a beating from the public. Um. You know,
Speaker 1: it was never the quarterback. Everybody thought he would be
Speaker 1: great human being, handled himself with class, always did that,
Speaker 1: worked his butt off, and I think he'd be a
Speaker 1: hell of a coach for this the organization. But let's
Speaker 1: let it play out. There's a thing called negotiation. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's what they're doing. They're negotiating. And you know, it's
Speaker 1: funny Nate Hackett goes to Denver and all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: everybody in Jacksonville's all up in arms. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: they let him get away that that what how many
Speaker 1: of those same people were sitting in those stands ripping
Speaker 1: Nate Hackett when he was the offensive coordinator back in
Speaker 1: the day. You know, So just let it play out,
Speaker 1: let it see what happens, and uh, ultimately they'll get
Speaker 1: the guy that they think is the right guy. I
Speaker 1: don't think any of the guys that they, you know,
Speaker 1: thought was the right guy. They would have had them already,
Speaker 1: and that's how I feel. I think they would have
Speaker 1: locked them up. So let it play out. As far
Speaker 1: as Trent Fawky in the building, would I have him
Speaker 1: in the building? No, what I have kept them around
Speaker 1: for part of the process, absolutely, because you needed somebody
Speaker 1: to ask the football questions. That made all the sense
Speaker 1: in the world. Now, whether he's there for the long run,
Speaker 1: that's to be determined. I wouldn't keep him there for
Speaker 1: the long run. Uh, ultimately maybe they won't. But but
Speaker 1: let the process play out. They have to, you know,
Speaker 1: they have to go siate with whoever they are bringing
Speaker 1: in there. Obviously today that the Saints apparently asked to
Speaker 1: speak with Left, which as well, um, and then so
Speaker 1: that opens up another thing of negotiation and all that.
Speaker 1: It's kind of what happened in Denver. Right here, Hey,
Speaker 1: Hackett is about to go interview for a second time
Speaker 1: with Jacksonville. We need to get this thing done in Denver,
Speaker 1: and they got Nate Hackett done. Let's see if the
Speaker 1: kind of move some things here. If if for some reason,
Speaker 1: Left which is not in play, where do they go. Well,
Speaker 1: I would go back to Jim Caldwell. That's where I
Speaker 1: would go Um, I know Jim Caldwell is not a
Speaker 1: young man. He's sixty six years old. But he's a
Speaker 1: perfect guy to bring me into that building. I think
Speaker 1: he would have. He is the right demeanor. He's great
Speaker 1: with quarterbacks. Go back and look at his track record.
Speaker 1: He's been outstanding with quarterbacks, developing them, coaching them the
Speaker 1: whole process and any and he's a good man and
Speaker 1: I think that would be welcomed inside that building. So
Speaker 1: I would look for him. Um, you know, as far
Speaker 1: as you know, they the stuff that Fangio, I don't
Speaker 1: get that unless you're bringing them in as the defensive coordinator.
Speaker 1: If you do hire a Byron and I don't know
Speaker 1: if Byron and Ncanro have much of relationship. And I
Speaker 1: don't ever want to see a force a coach to
Speaker 1: hire somebody he doesn't want, So that wouldn't be a
Speaker 1: good situation unless he wanted them there. But I think
Speaker 1: they you know, they start, they go back. There's a
Speaker 1: lot of good coaches out there. You gotta get the
Speaker 1: right one. And I always go back to the when
Speaker 1: the Eagles hired hired Syriani. Everybody panned it. Everybody did,
Speaker 1: Oh how they waited They got the worst guy. We
Speaker 1: had a pretty darn good rookie for first year with
Speaker 1: the with the Eagles, didn't he So get the right guy.
Speaker 1: And and here's one one other thing, this whole idea
Speaker 1: that the guy you hire has to be a great
Speaker 1: play caller, great defensive coordinator. I never have bought into that.
Speaker 1: You know why, JP this guy who's going to manage
Speaker 1: the people, manage the coaches, let the coaches coach, and
Speaker 1: have a good culture in the building. You don't need
Speaker 1: to have a guy who's an ex is and those guys,
Speaker 1: I mean, John Harbaugh isn't, Mike Tomlin isn't. I mean,
Speaker 1: you can have a guy who's just a darn good
Speaker 1: coach who lets his coach his coach. And that's I mean,
Speaker 1: especially for this organization right now. I mean that they're
Speaker 1: in desperate need of a retooling of of what it
Speaker 1: is to be a Jaguar, right and and the organization
Speaker 1: as a whole. So, yeah, you can have some of
Speaker 1: the dolls up plays and all that, but you need
Speaker 1: a bigger picture. Look at this thing. It feels like, yes,
Speaker 1: you definitely do. And I look, you can go back
Speaker 1: to um when when the Urban Meyer was a coach
Speaker 1: who didn't have any acting those but he wasn't a
Speaker 1: good those guys and that backfired on him, so it
Speaker 1: didn't work out. But that doesn't mean you can't go
Speaker 1: get the right guy to lead, to lead the coaches
Speaker 1: and let them coach again. Um. I think there's people
Speaker 1: out there. I mean, Jim called we will be one
Speaker 1: of them. I think Jim called Well would probably hire
Speaker 1: a guy to call plays. I don't necessarily know that
Speaker 1: he would call plays again, but he would be an
Speaker 1: overseer inside the building and that would work. So if
Speaker 1: you don't get Byron, I think that's what you have
Speaker 1: to do. You go back to the drawing board. Find
Speaker 1: another guy there. There are a lot of good coaches
Speaker 1: out there who are begging for an opportunity to lead.
Speaker 1: I think that if you get a guy you can
Speaker 1: you can make it work. It just has to be
Speaker 1: the right guy. And oh, by the way, you need
Speaker 1: the quarterback. If State Hackett, if Nate Hackett doesn't get
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers or doesn't solve the quarterback position, you're not
Speaker 1: gonna be around it Denver for very long. But Jacksonville,
Speaker 1: you know you have the quarterback. You have Trevor Lawrence,
Speaker 1: and that should be an attraction that should make that
Speaker 1: job something that most people want. I personally, JP would
Speaker 1: have hired a four A guy with a forty Niners
Speaker 1: you know, uh, Kyle Shanahan background. And the reason I
Speaker 1: say that, I think that offense would be perfect, perfect
Speaker 1: for Trevor Lawrence. You run the ball, you get his
Speaker 1: own read, you get him on the move, you make plays.
Speaker 1: Uh that way, you sneak out the tight end, just
Speaker 1: like the forty Niners always doing. They gotta fight a
Speaker 1: tight end, but you can do that. Dan Arnold can
Speaker 1: be a good tight end. They need another one. But
Speaker 1: I just think there's ways around it. So if you
Speaker 1: don't get Byron, there are all the coaches out there,
Speaker 1: go find the right one. Pete Prisco with a CBS
Speaker 1: Sports senior writer. As for the timing of this, Pete,
Speaker 1: we mentioned it earlier before you came on. I mean,
Speaker 1: the Jaguars were the second team to fire their head
Speaker 1: coach this season. Of course, the Raiders were the first.
Speaker 1: They had the interim, they were in the playoff race
Speaker 1: and got in the postseason and then so they weren't
Speaker 1: worried about that two week window. The Jaguars had the
Speaker 1: two week window to work with, and now they are
Speaker 1: not the first to hire the Bears and the Broncos
Speaker 1: apparently have. Are you concerned at all at the timing
Speaker 1: of this? I mean, how quickly do you need to
Speaker 1: get this wrapt up? Obviously you want the right higher
Speaker 1: and the right person in the right field and everything
Speaker 1: that goes around it. Um, But at some point does
Speaker 1: the clock start ticking to go find some of these
Speaker 1: assistant coaches? Well, the clock's ticking now because the senior
Speaker 1: goals next week. And I think that's important for your staff,
Speaker 1: Your coach, whoever it is, has to be there, has
Speaker 1: to be around, has to be able to go see players.
Speaker 1: I think, you know, that's the that's the marquee All
Speaker 1: Star game. That's when you start evaluating the guy, really
Speaker 1: evaluating the guys in the draft up close, getting to
Speaker 1: see him plactice and play. And so yeah, I think
Speaker 1: it's important by next week and and I think they'll
Speaker 1: do it in the next couple of days. You know.
Speaker 1: Here's the other thing, and I'm gonna remind people of this.
Speaker 1: When Tom Coughlin was hired, that wasn't exactly a warm
Speaker 1: and fuzzy Hiring met by a lot of people in
Speaker 1: that city or elsewhere. He was a college coach at
Speaker 1: BC who had had some time in the National Football League.
Speaker 1: They tried the land a big fish, Jimmy Johnson. They
Speaker 1: I mean they met with him on a boat down
Speaker 1: in Fort Lauderdale and tried to get Jimmy Johnson away
Speaker 1: from the Cowboys. And the league found out about it
Speaker 1: and get there was some talk of a tampering charge.
Speaker 1: They went after Tony Dungee. They had a bunch of
Speaker 1: other guys. Tom Coughlin was not a guy that was
Speaker 1: a marquee guy. That worked out pretty well for him,
Speaker 1: and he's a Hall of Fame coach in my mind.
Speaker 1: And so you get the right guy, you don't have
Speaker 1: to rush it. Take your time, get the right guy,
Speaker 1: but get it before Monday because Senior Bowl stars. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's right. Brat Is Are you gonna be in the
Speaker 1: Senior Bowl peat? No, we have a couple other guys
Speaker 1: going our draft guy goes Ever. I used to go
Speaker 1: all the time. I enjoyed it. Back in the day.
Speaker 1: I remember one time when this is a good story
Speaker 1: called back in the day, used to be able to
Speaker 1: get right in the middle of the drills on the
Speaker 1: field of media too, and so Coughlin and the scouting
Speaker 1: guy Rick Reapers were watching linebacker drills after they had
Speaker 1: just gotten I think beat by the Titans um and
Speaker 1: that year and and so al Wilson went on to
Speaker 1: be a really good player with the Denver Broncos. Was
Speaker 1: a linebacker for the from the University of Tennessee. And
Speaker 1: he thumped the guy in a one on one drill
Speaker 1: and I walked over when I go seeing that's the
Speaker 1: way a linebacker is supposed to play. Your con looked
Speaker 1: at me, threw me off of his day. I love it. So, yeah,
Speaker 1: we'll miss you there. We're gonna be over there, or
Speaker 1: at least for planning to unless there's some coaching announcement
Speaker 1: or something. Next week, we're planning on going to cover
Speaker 1: the Senior Bowls. So you ever, do you ever go
Speaker 1: to the used to have this food jubilie? Did they
Speaker 1: still have that? I think they still do, but it's
Speaker 1: so early in the week we're not going to make
Speaker 1: it to that. Unfortunately. That was always that was always
Speaker 1: the best thing before the Senor Bowl because all the
Speaker 1: coaches were there and you had you know, everybody was
Speaker 1: having a few cocktails and he got a little loosen.
Speaker 1: Lips got loose, and I remember me and John Oshan
Speaker 1: can tell his story too, and they were cough and
Speaker 1: started like directing the woman on how to put the
Speaker 1: plates up for the boop a fa or something. So
Speaker 1: it's crazy. Of course he did. Of course he did well, Pete.
Speaker 1: Thanks for the insight. We appreciate your time as always,
Speaker 1: Van And let's see, I mean, we'll see what the
Speaker 1: next few days holds. Do you think Lax Jax and
Speaker 1: Bill relax. You'll get a guy and he's gonna probably
Speaker 1: be a good coach. I mean, it's just because you
Speaker 1: don't know who he is. If you don't get Biro. Look,
Speaker 1: I want Byron there as much as anybody. I love Byron.
Speaker 1: But if you don't get him, you go find another guy.
Speaker 1: It's not the end of the world. You get the
Speaker 1: right guy. It's football, Pete. Like I'd always said, Hey,
Speaker 1: Brandon Bean was a pr intern in uh in Carolina
Speaker 1: and he came within a whisker getting his team to
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl this year, and he picked Josh Allen.
Speaker 1: So I mean, it's it's just you know, you can
Speaker 1: you can make this thing work. Thanks for the time, Pete.
Speaker 1: We'll talk to you soon. Pete Presco, CBS Sports Senior writer,
Speaker 1: joining us here on Jaguar's Happy Hour. And yeah, so
Speaker 1: just patients, calm down. That's that's Pete's message, which is interesting.
Speaker 1: You know, he's a lot of times a little more
Speaker 1: kind of, hey, let's get this thing done. And I
Speaker 1: think he's probably got a little ting of that still.
Speaker 1: But be patient. There's time. There's not a huge rush. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you want to kind of get something going though, as
Speaker 1: he said, the Senior Bowls coming up next week, that's
Speaker 1: when you have a chance to see a lot of
Speaker 1: coaches in person and sit down and do some interviews.
Speaker 1: If you want to add some people to your staff,
Speaker 1: that's a good place to do it. And in fact,
Speaker 1: there are coaches from all level of football show up
Speaker 1: with this thing for a week and go to the
Speaker 1: practices and hang out at the bars around the hotel
Speaker 1: downtown and all that stuff. And so it is a
Speaker 1: true the first real big offseason NFL event. There are
Speaker 1: a couple other games, of course, like the Collegiate Bowls
Speaker 1: this week in l A. The Shrine Bowl is next week.
Speaker 1: It used to be in St. Pete. It's now in
Speaker 1: Las Vegas this year, and those are two that kind
Speaker 1: of come ahead of it, But the Senior Bowl is
Speaker 1: the the one that's the that's the big one of
Speaker 1: the off season. And actually little note some here in
Speaker 1: Jacksonville might remember this of a certain age range, but
Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl actually started in Jacksonville. It was here
Speaker 1: for a couple of years before it moved to Mobile.
Speaker 1: It's like fifty years ago at least, and it's been
Speaker 1: in Mobile ever since. A couple of years ago they
Speaker 1: opened up a new stadium on the campus of the
Speaker 1: University of South Alabama and that's where the game and
Speaker 1: the practices are held. Now, more on that coming up.
Speaker 1: We'll here from John Osier in just a moment, Jaguars
Speaker 1: dot Com senior writer. We'll get his thoughts on what's
Speaker 1: happening with the Jags over the last few days and
Speaker 1: the coaching search and what the next steps could be
Speaker 1: for the Jacksonville Jaguars. A little later, Bucky Brooks, NFL
Speaker 1: network analysts joining us. This is Jaguars Happy Hour on
Speaker 1: the Jaguars Digital Network. Welcome back, It's Jaguars Happy Hour
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Speaker 1: The process has started. The bleachers are gone, part of
Speaker 1: the gate of the players parking lot is now gone.
Speaker 1: That's how wide this thing is going to be when
Speaker 1: it's done. The Football Performance Center footprint. The They have
Speaker 1: started to disassemble some things and it's apparently going to
Speaker 1: be open for business. The team will move in for it,
Speaker 1: so right before training camps. That's the ideal time summer
Speaker 1: of not of course this season, so they'll need this
Speaker 1: season and they'll have to make some some plans to
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Speaker 1: of the stadium at Daily's Place, and maybe even on
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Speaker 1: Welcome back is Jaguars Happy our j P. Shadwick with
Speaker 1: you from the home office today. Due to close contact tracing,
Speaker 1: all's well though, John Osher joining us over the phone now,
Speaker 1: Jaguars dot Com senior writer and a good afternoon, John.
Speaker 1: What's up man? Yeah, I'm not close contact JP, but yeah,
Speaker 1: we talked today, so maybe i'll will be who knows
Speaker 1: in this crazy world? Right? Wh Yeah, things happened in
Speaker 1: an instant, so, um, who knows. You know. Hey, we're
Speaker 1: feeling okay over here, so that's fine. Um, I'll let
Speaker 1: you know if it goes the other way though. Um
Speaker 1: So all right, there's a lot going on, John, Obviously
Speaker 1: most of it's in behind closed doors. I think that
Speaker 1: this is there where social media and things have changed
Speaker 1: the whole reporting structure of the league and everything that
Speaker 1: goes on in this time period. This is stuff you
Speaker 1: never really heard or thought about, um really because you
Speaker 1: it never really came out behind closed doors. All the
Speaker 1: negotiating and back and forth and posturing and go and
Speaker 1: interview other places and all that. That's I would think,
Speaker 1: at least a relatively new phenomena in the NFL. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna guess in nineteen seventy eight, you didn't follow this
Speaker 1: kind of coaching search like you do now. Yeah. Well,
Speaker 1: fortunately I was not covering the league yet. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: was still a couple of decades away. I can tell
Speaker 1: you people who don't know. I covered the Jags for
Speaker 1: US six seven years for the newspaper, and then I
Speaker 1: went to the Colts for ten years inside and now
Speaker 1: I've been with the Jaguars sort of inside, you know,
Speaker 1: so two decades inside seven in the newspaper games h
Speaker 1: certainly in the nineties and up until ten years ago,
Speaker 1: everything like this. You would hear things like this, like
Speaker 1: what you hear on Twitter, but it would be written
Speaker 1: in the next day's newspaper story every day, so there
Speaker 1: was time to sort through it. There was time too
Speaker 1: if you heard something, maybe make two calls, which used
Speaker 1: to be the old thing. If you had two storess
Speaker 1: you probably would run it. If you had three, definitely,
Speaker 1: so there was more time at that point for making
Speaker 1: sure you were right. It would still be nice to
Speaker 1: make sure you're right in this day and age, but
Speaker 1: it's harder because you know, everything's out there, everything is
Speaker 1: getting retweeted. Everything looks the same in terms of legitimacy,
Speaker 1: so it's it's hard things get reported, and it's hard
Speaker 1: to know what's real, what's fact, what speculation? What I
Speaker 1: heard this and it's really close. Uh awording comes into play,
Speaker 1: how something's worded, and then it gets picked apart. So
Speaker 1: all the internet flues. Um, it's a wild wild West.
Speaker 1: And I don't know that's going to change because social media.
Speaker 1: Is it better or worse, I don't know, but it's
Speaker 1: it's it's so much different as to be unrecognizable as
Speaker 1: part of the news cycle. Now. I mean, we know
Speaker 1: that the day after the season, it's Black Monday and
Speaker 1: they're gonna fire a bunch of people, and there's this.
Speaker 1: You know, this offseason there have been nine openings to
Speaker 1: have been filled and that's it seems like a higher
Speaker 1: number than normal, but that's just kind of part of
Speaker 1: the flow of the NFL offseason. Now is the first
Speaker 1: month figuring out who's coaching where in the new places.
Speaker 1: Unfortunately that Jaguars have had to do that a little
Speaker 1: bit too much as of late. Um, you know, all
Speaker 1: the fans John, or most of them, at least the ones,
Speaker 1: the vocal ones on social media are all about Byron Leftwitch. So, um,
Speaker 1: where are you with Byron Leftwitch? You know, I said
Speaker 1: since this process started, I've fortunate enough, and I stay
Speaker 1: fortunate because I like both men I'm fortunate enough to
Speaker 1: know Nate Hackett fairly well and no Jim called well
Speaker 1: very very well. So when their names were mentioned, I
Speaker 1: talked very positive to them because I know what they're about.
Speaker 1: Your natural tendency is too U get to do that.
Speaker 1: A lot of people are on the Jaguars new buyron,
Speaker 1: A lot of people in Jaguars media knew him, and
Speaker 1: fans had a connection to him. I've covered him maybe
Speaker 1: eight times, uh in games, watching him play with the
Speaker 1: Colt or watching play against the Colt. Uh. And I
Speaker 1: have talked in a few weeks to some players. Uh.
Speaker 1: You know, I talked to Jimmy, Fred h Brad Meester,
Speaker 1: guys who knew him very well, and some other people
Speaker 1: in the building knew him very well, and they say
Speaker 1: nothing but incredibly positive things about it. JP. Unfortunately for you,
Speaker 1: you have to read me every day in the O zone,
Speaker 1: so you know that the things I value in a
Speaker 1: head coach, I don't care that much about x as
Speaker 1: and ohs. But give me a guy who's a leader,
Speaker 1: who players will believe in, who can set a tone,
Speaker 1: who is a smart guy who can handle the day
Speaker 1: to day of the NFL job. Uh. That's what I've
Speaker 1: been asking people about with Byron, and it's it's to
Speaker 1: check every box, absolutely above average, fantastic fit for those things.
Speaker 1: Uh So I think it would be exciting. The fans
Speaker 1: seem to want it. So all those things are in place,
Speaker 1: Now does it work out the shot event really say
Speaker 1: this is the right fit for a myriad of reasons,
Speaker 1: I don't know, but you know, I don't think there's
Speaker 1: many bad choices that certainly seems like Byron left, which
Speaker 1: would be an absolutely great choice that people want. So
Speaker 1: let's see. I mean, I don't know how much more
Speaker 1: to say than that, because we don't know what's gonna happen. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And obviously a couple of the other names that were
Speaker 1: um I had already interviewed with the Jaguar as a
Speaker 1: time or two. He Refluce had done it twice already.
Speaker 1: The report that Hackett was coming back was enough to
Speaker 1: send the Broncos back into the table and they made
Speaker 1: that deal done with Hackett. So with those those are
Speaker 1: really the two other big names as of late that
Speaker 1: were reported with the Jags that you had seen that
Speaker 1: first wave of interviews. Haven't heard Caldwell's name in a
Speaker 1: little while. Though John, I'm curious because his name was
Speaker 1: reported with Chicago, but now that one's filled. Yeah, and again,
Speaker 1: I I knew Jim well for ten years. I see
Speaker 1: him a different thing that I don't. I don't talk
Speaker 1: to Jim on any sort of regular basis for a
Speaker 1: long long time, So I don't know. I have no
Speaker 1: insight into into what happened. It's it does seem generally
Speaker 1: like uh in this cycle and right now, teams aren't
Speaker 1: really going for the X head coach. Uh. There there's
Speaker 1: sort of a new blood trend so far. Uh hack
Speaker 1: it faber Flus that follows what's in the championship games
Speaker 1: right now. There's Andy Reid, of course, but you also
Speaker 1: had La Fleurid Green Bay, You've got ed uh McVeigh,
Speaker 1: You've got Taylor, you got Cincinnati situation Shanahan, all young
Speaker 1: guys who have taken over and who are sort of
Speaker 1: setting their tones the new blood things. Uh. So perhaps
Speaker 1: that's why Peterson called well, some of the ex head
Speaker 1: coaches names I didn't really take off. It's it's probably
Speaker 1: dangerous on my part to try to say, Okay, two
Speaker 1: positions have been hired, so that's a trend. But perhaps
Speaker 1: that's why some of the X head coaches UH haven't
Speaker 1: gotten a look. Pendulums and trends in this league UH
Speaker 1: tend to sway back and forth every couple of years.
Speaker 1: That's what just one feels like right now. John Ozer,
Speaker 1: Jaguars dot Com senior writer with us, Who do you
Speaker 1: like in the games this weekend? John? Good? You know it.
Speaker 1: Let's just hope they're as good as last week's, right.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not sure you can expect the Buffalo
Speaker 1: Kansas City. Uh yeah, you know me. The old school
Speaker 1: guy in me was screaming for some defense in that game,
Speaker 1: but nobody else seemed to want it, so I was
Speaker 1: just kinda I was the old man yelling at the
Speaker 1: moon on that one but fantastic game. I think I
Speaker 1: like uh, I like the forty Niners over the Rams
Speaker 1: because they seem to be able to handle that team.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's a coincidence they've won so many
Speaker 1: a New Row against them. They seem to match up
Speaker 1: and their physical and compound at him, and the Rams
Speaker 1: haven't handled that that well. So maybe that's the way
Speaker 1: that one goes. I I typically believe when a team
Speaker 1: has been there that often as Kansas City. With a
Speaker 1: quarterback like that, Kansas City is starting to feel a
Speaker 1: little bit like the Brady Air of Patriots, where you
Speaker 1: better bring a lot if you're going to knock them off.
Speaker 1: And for a young team to knock them off, this
Speaker 1: may be a situation where Cincinnati needs to be there one,
Speaker 1: get the experience and come back and go after him again.
Speaker 1: The Chiefs at home are gonna be tough to beat
Speaker 1: that one. Yeah, Chiefs, but it's a fourth straight conference
Speaker 1: championship game and that's an amazing stat by the way.
Speaker 1: I mean, it is uh all at home too. I
Speaker 1: know they didn't learn the home in the home field
Speaker 1: this year, but you know, I'm sure it will happen
Speaker 1: again someday. But ain't gonna be a lot. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: a It's a heck of a run for sure. John.
Speaker 1: We're going to the Senior Bowl next week maybe if
Speaker 1: if breaking news doesn't stop us from going. But hey,
Speaker 1: another Senior Bowl run. It's been a little bit since
Speaker 1: I've been to one. I haven't been to the new
Speaker 1: stadium yet. Looking forward to that. And it's really as
Speaker 1: we were talking to Pete a moment ago, Pete Prisco,
Speaker 1: you've heard of him. Um, it's really the first big
Speaker 1: offseason coaching convention of sorts, and a lot of business
Speaker 1: can be done in that week next week. Yeah, Pete
Speaker 1: and I used to call it the Garb set because
Speaker 1: you would walk around and all the newly hired coaches
Speaker 1: were supporting their new Back in the day used to
Speaker 1: be starter Garb. I think. So it's always interesting to
Speaker 1: people watch there, but it is it's not the extent
Speaker 1: of the combine where everybody's there, and the Senior Bowl
Speaker 1: has has fallen off a little bit in terms of
Speaker 1: the number of head coaches you see, because I think
Speaker 1: so do with so many changes uh staff that change
Speaker 1: typically can't get over to the Senior Bowl. But it
Speaker 1: it is certainly a it's the convention where you start
Speaker 1: to hear things. It's not as much of a job
Speaker 1: fair as I think it was back when I started
Speaker 1: covering the nineties and early two thousands, but it certainly
Speaker 1: where you started hearing gossips been for us DP obviously. UM,
Speaker 1: I know we were talking about it in our planning
Speaker 1: meeting today. We're thinking so much about the head coach
Speaker 1: and everything going on right now that it's easy to
Speaker 1: forget that dat Wards has the number one pick. It's
Speaker 1: it's uh, that hasn't really been much of a topic.
Speaker 1: But for me personally, I'm looking forward to getting out there.
Speaker 1: That's always where I start really thinking about the draft
Speaker 1: and trying to figure out how things will play out.
Speaker 1: So I'm looking forward to go ahead and talking to
Speaker 1: people about these top guys, about the depth of the draft. Uh,
Speaker 1: that's what the Senior Bowl is really all about. Uh,
Speaker 1: although this year we'll see if we're going. I know
Speaker 1: JP from experience. Once somebody tells you you're going to Mobile,
Speaker 1: it's hard to get you off that sent I've spent
Speaker 1: many of nights in that town. Um many a long,
Speaker 1: long night in that. Don't tell you you're going to
Speaker 1: Mobile and then turn that around, yeah, because I might
Speaker 1: just still go anyway. You never know, John, thanks to
Speaker 1: the time, Buddy, appreciate it. We'll talk to you all right,
Speaker 1: but anytime we'll talk John Os. You're Jaguars dot Com
Speaker 1: senior writer joining us. A lot going on, obviously, It's
Speaker 1: it's easy to forget that. Yes, the Jaguars have the
Speaker 1: number one overall pick again, second year a row. I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't think you wanted three years in a row.
Speaker 1: In fact, I know you don't, but hey, you got it,
Speaker 1: so make sure you do all the due diligence, get
Speaker 1: the right guy. That that's we're gonna start that offseason
Speaker 1: content strategy plan, of course, in the next little bit
Speaker 1: here on Jaguars dot Com, so stay tuned for that
Speaker 1: as we move forward. We're back in a moment Bucky
Speaker 1: Brooks joining us NFL Network analyst. He's out in l A.
Speaker 1: We'll get his thoughts on the Jaguars search. He's got
Speaker 1: the Collegiate Bowl coming up, the Shrine game, all that
Speaker 1: right around the corner for Bucky. And this is Jaguars
Speaker 1: Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network. Welcome back. It's
Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hour. J P. Shadrick with you from the
Speaker 1: home studio today. Close Contact ball as well, though it's
Speaker 1: our first show since the end of the regular season.
Speaker 1: The day after, we had a Monday edition of Jaguars
Speaker 1: Happy Hour. The Jaguars still have a coaching vacancy, but
Speaker 1: there are many names that have been thrown around with it,
Speaker 1: most recently of course, Byron Leftwich. No new news yet,
Speaker 1: but we'll see. We hear Pete Prisco earlier say Hey,
Speaker 1: you know, maybe the next couple of days. They you'd
Speaker 1: like to have somebody in place before the Senior Bowl
Speaker 1: and all that going on. But then in the grand
Speaker 1: scheme of things, there's really not a huge rush because
Speaker 1: you just want to get it right. We get it
Speaker 1: right anytime. Bucky Brooks is on with US NFL Network
Speaker 1: analyst joining us from Los Angeles. Good afternoon, Bucky, what's up?
Speaker 1: What m JP? What's up? My guy? I haven't talked
Speaker 1: to you forever. It's been a minute. It's been a minute. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's good to talk to you. Thanks for the time.
Speaker 1: We appreciate it. I know. Um. You know. So the
Speaker 1: social media thing is is nuts, right. I mean, everybody
Speaker 1: is has a report, everybody has an angle. Fans are
Speaker 1: all about getting this thing done as fast as possible.
Speaker 1: And when they hear the name Byron left, which now
Speaker 1: it's okay, let's go get Byron. And then Nate Hacketts
Speaker 1: gets fired, it gets hired by the Broncos, one of
Speaker 1: the names that was in the hunt. There goes Zebra
Speaker 1: flues to Chicago. All in the last day. I think
Speaker 1: that's ramped people's eagerness up again. Everybody's trying to get
Speaker 1: this thing done quickly, at least the for the fan base. Now,
Speaker 1: from a team perspective, you just gotta go get the
Speaker 1: right guy and not worry about the timing. Right, you
Speaker 1: do have to get the right guy, But timing does
Speaker 1: matter now that coaches have been put in seats, because
Speaker 1: what happens is if you don't get your head coach
Speaker 1: in the building right away, he now has to wait
Speaker 1: to hire coaches and then you kind of left with
Speaker 1: the picked over selection. And so the sooner that you're
Speaker 1: able to get the head coach in, the better he's
Speaker 1: able to assemble his staff, he's able to get top
Speaker 1: quality coaches as opposed to settling. Now. I'm not saying
Speaker 1: that there's a huge disparity between some of the coaches,
Speaker 1: but you would like him to have his ideal pick.
Speaker 1: So you want to kind of secure the bag when
Speaker 1: it comes to that, get the head coach in, and
Speaker 1: then build it out from there. There's a lot of
Speaker 1: work to do, and so I think Jaguars fans are
Speaker 1: right to be anxious to see how they're gonna get
Speaker 1: the work done. That's how these things go, right. I mean,
Speaker 1: there's teams that come in and ask for interviews there,
Speaker 1: you know, and then you might have a guy in
Speaker 1: mind or maybe maybe negotiating, and here comes the Saints.
Speaker 1: They want to talk to Byron too. They still have
Speaker 1: an opening, they have a relatively new opening. So how
Speaker 1: much of that is posturing, how much of it is negotiation,
Speaker 1: how much of it is real, all of it, all
Speaker 1: of it is. In these situations when you're trying to
Speaker 1: figure out, um, who's going to be the coach, how
Speaker 1: much money you're willing to pay the coach, it all
Speaker 1: comes down to leverage, and sometimes you get what you negotiate.
Speaker 1: And so if you do have another team come in
Speaker 1: at the eleventh hour, that kind of raises the stakes
Speaker 1: a little bit, and then you have guys go, guys
Speaker 1: that you knew were really in play at the job.
Speaker 1: Leverage swings and it shifts, and so you have to
Speaker 1: be careful playing the game. But it certainly is a
Speaker 1: part of the conversation. And what you would hope is
Speaker 1: in the next few days that something is wrapped up,
Speaker 1: you get the coach, you have everything lined up. There's
Speaker 1: a level of i would say unison or uniformity when
Speaker 1: it comes to the way the head coach and the
Speaker 1: general manager and everybody is on board. And then the
Speaker 1: way we go about the Vic Fangio bomb that came
Speaker 1: in yesterday that the Jags are sent to play that
Speaker 1: out not for hack It, but for Vic Fangio. And
Speaker 1: then later report was maybe it was because of the
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator possibilities. That's that's a name that was kind
Speaker 1: of thrown out of nowhere. Yeah, I mean, look, I
Speaker 1: think this business is a relationship business. And when you
Speaker 1: go back and you look at general manager Trent Balky's
Speaker 1: relationship with Big Fangio. Fangio was the defensive coordinator at
Speaker 1: the time he was there at the Sannaessisco Forts, So
Speaker 1: there's a natural um connectivity between them. They've seen each
Speaker 1: other's work. There's probably a level of respect and appreciation.
Speaker 1: Maybe Balky respects and appreciates what Fanjo was able to
Speaker 1: do maybe in Denver and some uh difficult circumstances, particularly
Speaker 1: a quarterback, and so you know they're gonna kick the
Speaker 1: tires and kind of do those things. And it's also
Speaker 1: a situation where um sometimes as the leader of the
Speaker 1: organization and will say that right now, Balky is the
Speaker 1: leader of the organization. Some time you're trying to figure
Speaker 1: out how can I have the best alignment with the
Speaker 1: coach as opposed to what others on the outside might
Speaker 1: be the best coach in candidate Bucky Brooks with this
Speaker 1: NFL Network analyst, of course, the Jaguars coaching gigs still open.
Speaker 1: One of the reports earlier today from Arizona was that, yeah,
Speaker 1: Byron Left, which was going to be the Jaguars head coach,
Speaker 1: but a member of the Cardinals front office would be GM.
Speaker 1: All that combined. Of course, as you just said, there
Speaker 1: is a GM here in Jacksonville. Trent Balky is the
Speaker 1: general manager. What do you know about Wilson and what
Speaker 1: he's done with the Cardinals. Yeah, Adrian Wilson is a
Speaker 1: was an now standing player in this league, big time
Speaker 1: playing in this league as a safety transition from being
Speaker 1: a player to me in a very well respected front
Speaker 1: office executive, worked his way up the ladder in Arizona
Speaker 1: after his playing days. Uh, comes well equipped with the
Speaker 1: team building strategies that you certainly would like. Um, Look,
Speaker 1: I understand Byron Left, which has spent time in Arizona.
Speaker 1: And so if you're the head coach and you have
Speaker 1: an opportunity to pick hand pick your personnel. Man, you're
Speaker 1: on someone that you trust, someone that might see the
Speaker 1: game the same way that you see the game, so
Speaker 1: that you're in lockstep when it comes to building up
Speaker 1: the Jaguars. I'm not necessarily surprised by the names and
Speaker 1: the connections and how they're kind of joined at the hip.
Speaker 1: I just think it's a little odd when you have
Speaker 1: a GM in place who reportedly is running the coaching search.
Speaker 1: Look at a bowl move, however, it's a move that,
Speaker 1: depending on the leverage that you have, it's one that
Speaker 1: you can make interesting for sure. Bucky Brooks with us
Speaker 1: NFL network analysts, So all right, you're let's let's change
Speaker 1: gears here. You're this is the pre draft season is underway,
Speaker 1: Collegiate bowls this week, the Shrine Game is coming up,
Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl is next week. I mean we're here now, Bucky,
Speaker 1: here it is. Yeah, we're here right now. I mean
Speaker 1: we're in full mock draft season. Everyone is speculating who's
Speaker 1: going where, even though we don't even have coaches and
Speaker 1: we were still waiting to see on general manager. Doesn't
Speaker 1: stop us from trying to connect the dots and see
Speaker 1: where it's gonna go. I think it's an exciting time
Speaker 1: in the league because obviously everyone is able to kind
Speaker 1: of turn the page because as these teams get eliminated
Speaker 1: from the tournament, everyone cast their eyes to next year
Speaker 1: and how their team can get better. I think for
Speaker 1: the Jaguars, I think it's a huge year because you
Speaker 1: have the number one pick for the second year and
Speaker 1: row uh, that pick needs to be an impact player,
Speaker 1: a difference maker, a franchise pillar, and so I think
Speaker 1: the curiosity for me and for others sense from the
Speaker 1: fact on how are the Jaguars going to do this rebuild?
Speaker 1: Are they going to initially rebuild around Trevor Lawrence? So
Speaker 1: it's going to be offensive centric, much like we saw
Speaker 1: the Cincinnati Bengals be able to do. And in two
Speaker 1: years the Cincinnati Bengals are aware. Everyone would aspire to
Speaker 1: be one game away from the super Bowl. Or is
Speaker 1: this going to be a situation where you're looking at
Speaker 1: the defense and saying, hey, let's get a pass for us, Sure,
Speaker 1: let's add to the defense. Maybe we can bring the
Speaker 1: defense up the snuff. A lot of fascinating debates that
Speaker 1: take place over the next three or four months. You
Speaker 1: gotta score points. I mean, look at the playoff games,
Speaker 1: but you gotta score points. So I just said here
Speaker 1: and saw San Francisco in Green Bay Cincinnati Bengals nineteen sixteen.
Speaker 1: What are we talking about, JP. It wasn't until we
Speaker 1: were forced in the last two minutes of the Buffalo
Speaker 1: Bills and the Kansas City Chiefs that we had to
Speaker 1: score points. That was the only game where we had
Speaker 1: to really do it. The rest of the games, like,
Speaker 1: they scored more points in those two minutes in the
Speaker 1: Jags scored all season. You kidn't mean they did. They did,
Speaker 1: but it took the pressure of a two minute drill
Speaker 1: and about to go home before they decided to ramp
Speaker 1: it up. And it also depends on the level of quarterback.
Speaker 1: I do know now though, JP. I think now more
Speaker 1: than ever the importance of having um and elite franchise
Speaker 1: quarterback in the fall UM. I think, by all accounts,
Speaker 1: we feel hopefully and optimistics about Trevor Lawrence. But you
Speaker 1: now see like, Okay, you get the quarterback one year,
Speaker 1: you get the weapons the next year, and the way
Speaker 1: we go and I think the Joe Burrow model what
Speaker 1: we saw those high flowered playmakers, JA mar Chase Tyler
Speaker 1: boyd um Tee, Higgins, Joe Mixing, whatever. That offensive line
Speaker 1: looks like they do put points on the board, and
Speaker 1: then they did they committed a lot of free agent
Speaker 1: resources to the defense. But I do believe that that
Speaker 1: as a model that if I was sniffing around the
Speaker 1: building in Jacksonville, I might just kind of drop some
Speaker 1: who they posts around. Maybe just look at how those
Speaker 1: guys did it, because they're right there. So you know,
Speaker 1: how about the trend of these mobile quarterbacks because the
Speaker 1: homes can move around. Of course, johsnh Allen, we saw
Speaker 1: what he can do with that size and mobility and
Speaker 1: all that. I don't know if Burrows exactly a runner,
Speaker 1: but Trevor has the ability to do that? Is that
Speaker 1: the future? You everybody's gonna kind of want these guys
Speaker 1: that can move around more than just stand there like
Speaker 1: a statue. Yeah, you can't be a statue. I don't
Speaker 1: know if you necessarily um one of the guy that's
Speaker 1: a runner. Even though man Josh Allen is such an outlier,
Speaker 1: like big physical running over guys, I mean, superhero with
Speaker 1: the ball in his hands. And keep in mind that
Speaker 1: guy came to jackson and got thwarted got stimy nine six.
Speaker 1: You know all the points that we saw in that game,
Speaker 1: so um it is fascinated. But JP, I think you
Speaker 1: cannot look at the tournament and not come away knowing
Speaker 1: that you have to have a guy to do it,
Speaker 1: and that you can get so far with the guy
Speaker 1: who is fine and the team around him is great.
Speaker 1: But if you're going to be one of the last
Speaker 1: team standing, you better have a dude. Now. The only
Speaker 1: outlier of the group is Jimmy Garoppolo, because I think
Speaker 1: we all are like, Jimmy's all right, He's okay, you know,
Speaker 1: he's B B B minus. But the team is so
Speaker 1: good and it's so physical. I just wonder about the
Speaker 1: marsin Rivera. That's it. They could wind it. They wind
Speaker 1: up in the super Bowl because they're so good, they
Speaker 1: physical or whatever the other thing. I think Now, the
Speaker 1: formula is quarterback, a level, pass rush, a level playmakers.
Speaker 1: That other stuff you can work around, but you have
Speaker 1: to have the pass rushing to go with the quarterback
Speaker 1: to be able to do it. Bucky, we've got about
Speaker 1: a minute left with you here, so quickly, who do
Speaker 1: you like in the games on on Sunday? Oh, this
Speaker 1: is so much fun. I'm gonna go to KNCY the
Speaker 1: Chiefs because I think the KNC the Chiefs have the
Speaker 1: recipe for getting it done. I mean, you go to
Speaker 1: three straight title games, you can do street super Bowls
Speaker 1: like that is a remarkable councer. I think that experience
Speaker 1: gives them a little bit. And the thing the San
Speaker 1: Francisco fort nine is and l a Rams is so
Speaker 1: interesting because the forty nine is absolutely on the Rams,
Speaker 1: much like the Jacksonville jack Wards owned the coach where
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter, they just owned them. It doesn't matter
Speaker 1: where you roll the ball out, how bad the team
Speaker 1: is when they play that team, they do it. But man,
Speaker 1: the star power of the Rams is fascinating. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go with the Rams in this one because I feel
Speaker 1: like they find the way to get it done. The man,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised if he goes. We'll see see
Speaker 1: how many Rams fans sell their tickets to Sam trying
Speaker 1: to block them out. But the faith of the faith
Speaker 1: was gooding out. They can't let it can't be all
Speaker 1: rid on Championship Sunday. It just can't be all read. Bucky,
Speaker 1: enjoy it. Thanks for the time. We appreciate it as always. Man,
Speaker 1: Hey Man, call me any time. Bucky Brooks, NFL Network
Speaker 1: analyst here. Thanks also to Pete Prisco, CBS Sports Senior Writer,
Speaker 1: John Osher, Jaguars dot Com senior writer Joe Fortunato on
Speaker 1: the audio side. Brent, we were on the video side,
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