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Speaker 1: It is Thursday, Yes, Thursday, January. This is Jaguars Happy Hour.

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Speaker 1: And now when questioned about the overtime rules, he said, dude,

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Speaker 1: for free football. And welcome in. It's Jaguars Happy Hour

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Speaker 1: from the home office today. J P. Shadrick with you.

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Speaker 1: It's our first show back since the Monday after the

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Speaker 1: We'll i get into that coming up. Busy show, of course,

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Speaker 1: on a day like today, the coaching carousels spinning. A

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Speaker 1: couple of teams around the league have secured their new

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Speaker 1: Jaguar candidates that were hired, the Bears and the Broncos.

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Speaker 1: Will get to that coming up. The Jaguars search continues.

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Speaker 1: There's not a lot of that. There's a lot of

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Speaker 1: the situation, There aren't many. We'll say that. CBS Sports

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Speaker 1: senior writer Pete Frisco. We'll hear from Pete get his

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Speaker 1: thoughts on what's going on. I'm sure he has a few.

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Speaker 1: Jaguars dot Com senior writer John Ozier joins us to

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Speaker 1: give us his perspective on what has happened or what

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Speaker 1: is happening for the Jaguars, and we'll hear from NFL

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Speaker 1: Network analyst Bucky Brooks. He's out in Los Angeles, the

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Speaker 1: And that is our show ahead so well. Since we

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Speaker 1: last convened, that was the Monday after the regular season.

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Speaker 1: That was on Jaguars Happy Hour Prisco and Bisselli. We

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Speaker 1: recapped the final win of the season, the the possibility

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Speaker 1: Since then, according to all the reports that you've read

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Speaker 1: the interview process. They have gone through it twice with

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Speaker 1: a few different candidates. Now and what a few days

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Speaker 1: it's been, of course on social media, some ups and downs,

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Speaker 1: there was some changes, some plot twists, um you know,

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Speaker 1: to to well, a couple of days ago now Byron left,

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Speaker 1: an overnight period to maybe need Hacketts coming for a

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Speaker 1: second interview. Then the Broncos took action and signed up

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Speaker 1: Nathaniel Hackett, the former Jaguars offensive coordinator, as their head coach.

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Speaker 1: Matt ever Flus is now with the Chicago Bears. He

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Speaker 1: had been in the process with the Jaguars as well.

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Speaker 1: And now it kind of goes back if you follow

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Speaker 1: Trent Balky is the general manager. That's a report as

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Speaker 1: of earlier today. Vic Fangio's name was thrown in the

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Speaker 1: but later believed at least reported to be believed to

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Speaker 1: be for a potential defensive coordinator role. So all this

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Speaker 1: has been a quick run um to the doorstep at

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Speaker 1: we'll see the conversations apparently continue will We're following Twitter

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Speaker 1: and it didn't work out, obviously, So doing the due diligence,

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Speaker 1: I think is what's happening right now. That's why it's

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Speaker 1: He was on our last show since we've been on air.

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Speaker 1: So we will hear from Pete and get his perspective

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Speaker 1: on the Jaguars Digital Network. Welcome back. It's Jaguars Happy

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Speaker 1: Hour on Thursday afternoon, our first show since the day

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Speaker 1: after the regular season. J. P. Shadrick from the home office.

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Speaker 1: Some close contact issues, nothing bad over here. I hope

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Speaker 1: everybody's doing well. Glad you're back with us. Of course,

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Speaker 1: It's been a busy couple of weeks on social media.

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Speaker 1: It's really heated up over the last couple of days.

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Speaker 1: It feels like, let's check in with CBS Sports senior

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Speaker 1: writer Pete Prisco, He joins us now over the phone. Pete,

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Speaker 1: good afternoon to you. What's up man? What's up? J

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Speaker 1: p JP. You're like a close contact, like every two day.

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Speaker 1: the office. Hey, I don't know, man. The rules are

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Speaker 1: right now with everything has happened over the last two days,

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Speaker 1: right now, Pete, And um, what's the latest you? What

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Speaker 1: Let's let the whole process play out. I mean it's just,

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Speaker 1: It relates to that team. And when he was there,

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Speaker 1: he took a beating from the public. Um. You know,

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Speaker 1: let it play out. There's a thing called negotiation. I mean,

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Speaker 1: this week in l A. The Shrine Bowl is next week.

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Speaker 1: It used to be in St. Pete. It's now in

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Speaker 1: Las Vegas this year, and those are two that kind

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Speaker 1: of come ahead of it, But the Senior Bowl is

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Speaker 1: the the one that's the that's the big one of

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Speaker 1: the off season. And actually little note some here in

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Speaker 1: Jacksonville might remember this of a certain age range, but

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Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl actually started in Jacksonville. It was here

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Speaker 1: for a couple of years before it moved to Mobile.

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Speaker 1: It's like fifty years ago at least, and it's been

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Speaker 1: in Mobile ever since. A couple of years ago they

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Speaker 1: opened up a new stadium on the campus of the

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Speaker 1: University of South Alabama and that's where the game and

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Speaker 1: the practices are held. Now, more on that coming up.

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Speaker 1: We'll here from John Osier in just a moment, Jaguars

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Speaker 1: dot Com senior writer. We'll get his thoughts on what's

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Speaker 1: happening with the Jags over the last few days and

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Speaker 1: the coaching search and what the next steps could be

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Speaker 1: for the Jacksonville Jaguars. A little later, Bucky Brooks, NFL

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Speaker 1: network analysts joining us. This is Jaguars Happy Hour on

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Speaker 1: the Jaguars Digital Network. Welcome back, It's Jaguars Happy Hour

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Speaker 1: and if you're watching on Jaguars dot Com or Jack's

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Speaker 1: social media channels. You are looking at the footprint of

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Speaker 1: the Football Performance Center. They have started taking things down.

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Speaker 1: The process has started. The bleachers are gone, part of

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Speaker 1: the gate of the players parking lot is now gone.

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Speaker 1: That's how wide this thing is going to be when

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Speaker 1: it's done. The Football Performance Center footprint. The They have

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Speaker 1: started to disassemble some things and it's apparently going to

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Speaker 1: be open for business. The team will move in for it,

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Speaker 1: so right before training camps. That's the ideal time summer

457
00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:10,919
Speaker 1: of not of course this season, so they'll need this

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Speaker 1: season and they'll have to make some some plans to

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Speaker 1: do some of the offseason workouts in other areas. My

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Speaker 1: guests would be that indoor um on the south end

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Speaker 1: of the stadium at Daily's Place, and maybe even on

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Speaker 1: the on the t i A Bank Field surface and

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Speaker 1: then training camp. Who knows, well, that's a little for

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Speaker 1: far down the road, but they'll have to make some

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Speaker 1: arrangements there with the construction underway. So that's good news.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back is Jaguars Happy our j P. Shadwick with

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Speaker 1: you from the home office today. Due to close contact tracing,

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Speaker 1: all's well though, John Osher joining us over the phone now,

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Speaker 1: Jaguars dot Com senior writer and a good afternoon, John.

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Speaker 1: What's up man? Yeah, I'm not close contact JP, but yeah,

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Speaker 1: we talked today, so maybe i'll will be who knows

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Speaker 1: in this crazy world? Right? Wh Yeah, things happened in

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Speaker 1: an instant, so, um, who knows. You know. Hey, we're

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Speaker 1: feeling okay over here, so that's fine. Um, I'll let

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Speaker 1: you know if it goes the other way though. Um

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Speaker 1: So all right, there's a lot going on, John, Obviously

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Speaker 1: most of it's in behind closed doors. I think that

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Speaker 1: this is there where social media and things have changed

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Speaker 1: the whole reporting structure of the league and everything that

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Speaker 1: goes on in this time period. This is stuff you

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Speaker 1: never really heard or thought about, um really because you

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Speaker 1: it never really came out behind closed doors. All the

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Speaker 1: negotiating and back and forth and posturing and go and

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Speaker 1: interview other places and all that. That's I would think,

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Speaker 1: at least a relatively new phenomena in the NFL. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna guess in nineteen seventy eight, you didn't follow this

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Speaker 1: kind of coaching search like you do now. Yeah. Well,

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Speaker 1: fortunately I was not covering the league yet. Yeah, I

489
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Speaker 1: was still a couple of decades away. I can tell

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Speaker 1: you people who don't know. I covered the Jags for

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Speaker 1: US six seven years for the newspaper, and then I

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Speaker 1: went to the Colts for ten years inside and now

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Speaker 1: I've been with the Jaguars sort of inside, you know,

494
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Speaker 1: so two decades inside seven in the newspaper games h

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Speaker 1: certainly in the nineties and up until ten years ago,

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Speaker 1: everything like this. You would hear things like this, like

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Speaker 1: what you hear on Twitter, but it would be written

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Speaker 1: in the next day's newspaper story every day, so there

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Speaker 1: was time to sort through it. There was time too

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Speaker 1: if you heard something, maybe make two calls, which used

501
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Speaker 1: to be the old thing. If you had two storess

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Speaker 1: you probably would run it. If you had three, definitely,

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Speaker 1: so there was more time at that point for making

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Speaker 1: sure you were right. It would still be nice to

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Speaker 1: make sure you're right in this day and age, but

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Speaker 1: it's harder because you know, everything's out there, everything is

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Speaker 1: getting retweeted. Everything looks the same in terms of legitimacy,

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Speaker 1: so it's it's hard things get reported, and it's hard

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Speaker 1: to know what's real, what's fact, what speculation? What I

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00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:17,840
Speaker 1: heard this and it's really close. Uh awording comes into play,

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Speaker 1: how something's worded, and then it gets picked apart. So

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Speaker 1: all the internet flues. Um, it's a wild wild West.

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Speaker 1: And I don't know that's going to change because social media.

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Speaker 1: Is it better or worse, I don't know, but it's

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Speaker 1: it's it's so much different as to be unrecognizable as

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Speaker 1: part of the news cycle. Now. I mean, we know

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Speaker 1: that the day after the season, it's Black Monday and

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Speaker 1: they're gonna fire a bunch of people, and there's this.

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Speaker 1: You know, this offseason there have been nine openings to

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Speaker 1: have been filled and that's it seems like a higher

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Speaker 1: number than normal, but that's just kind of part of

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Speaker 1: the flow of the NFL offseason. Now is the first

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Speaker 1: month figuring out who's coaching where in the new places.

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Speaker 1: Unfortunately that Jaguars have had to do that a little

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Speaker 1: bit too much as of late. Um, you know, all

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Speaker 1: the fans John, or most of them, at least the ones,

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Speaker 1: the vocal ones on social media are all about Byron Leftwitch. So, um,

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Speaker 1: where are you with Byron Leftwitch? You know, I said

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Speaker 1: since this process started, I've fortunate enough, and I stay

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Speaker 1: fortunate because I like both men I'm fortunate enough to

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Speaker 1: know Nate Hackett fairly well and no Jim called well

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Speaker 1: very very well. So when their names were mentioned, I

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Speaker 1: talked very positive to them because I know what they're about.

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Speaker 1: Your natural tendency is too U get to do that.

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Speaker 1: A lot of people are on the Jaguars new buyron,

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Speaker 1: A lot of people in Jaguars media knew him, and

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Speaker 1: fans had a connection to him. I've covered him maybe

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Speaker 1: eight times, uh in games, watching him play with the

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Speaker 1: Colt or watching play against the Colt. Uh. And I

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Speaker 1: have talked in a few weeks to some players. Uh.

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Speaker 1: You know, I talked to Jimmy, Fred h Brad Meester,

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Speaker 1: guys who knew him very well, and some other people

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Speaker 1: in the building knew him very well, and they say

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Speaker 1: nothing but incredibly positive things about it. JP. Unfortunately for you,

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Speaker 1: you have to read me every day in the O zone,

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Speaker 1: so you know that the things I value in a

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Speaker 1: head coach, I don't care that much about x as

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Speaker 1: and ohs. But give me a guy who's a leader,

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Speaker 1: who players will believe in, who can set a tone,

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Speaker 1: who is a smart guy who can handle the day

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Speaker 1: to day of the NFL job. Uh. That's what I've

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Speaker 1: been asking people about with Byron, and it's it's to

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Speaker 1: check every box, absolutely above average, fantastic fit for those things.

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Speaker 1: Uh So I think it would be exciting. The fans

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Speaker 1: seem to want it. So all those things are in place,

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Speaker 1: Now does it work out the shot event really say

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Speaker 1: this is the right fit for a myriad of reasons,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, but you know, I don't think there's

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Speaker 1: many bad choices that certainly seems like Byron left, which

560
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Speaker 1: would be an absolutely great choice that people want. So

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Speaker 1: let's see. I mean, I don't know how much more

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Speaker 1: to say than that, because we don't know what's gonna happen. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And obviously a couple of the other names that were

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Speaker 1: um I had already interviewed with the Jaguar as a

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Speaker 1: time or two. He Refluce had done it twice already.

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Speaker 1: The report that Hackett was coming back was enough to

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Speaker 1: send the Broncos back into the table and they made

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Speaker 1: that deal done with Hackett. So with those those are

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Speaker 1: really the two other big names as of late that

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Speaker 1: were reported with the Jags that you had seen that

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Speaker 1: first wave of interviews. Haven't heard Caldwell's name in a

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Speaker 1: little while. Though John, I'm curious because his name was

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Speaker 1: reported with Chicago, but now that one's filled. Yeah, and again,

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Speaker 1: I I knew Jim well for ten years. I see

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Speaker 1: him a different thing that I don't. I don't talk

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Speaker 1: to Jim on any sort of regular basis for a

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Speaker 1: long long time, So I don't know. I have no

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Speaker 1: insight into into what happened. It's it does seem generally

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Speaker 1: like uh in this cycle and right now, teams aren't

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Speaker 1: really going for the X head coach. Uh. There there's

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Speaker 1: sort of a new blood trend so far. Uh hack

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Speaker 1: it faber Flus that follows what's in the championship games

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Speaker 1: right now. There's Andy Reid, of course, but you also

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Speaker 1: had La Fleurid Green Bay, You've got ed uh McVeigh,

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Speaker 1: You've got Taylor, you got Cincinnati situation Shanahan, all young

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Speaker 1: guys who have taken over and who are sort of

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Speaker 1: setting their tones the new blood things. Uh. So perhaps

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Speaker 1: that's why Peterson called well, some of the ex head

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Speaker 1: coaches names I didn't really take off. It's it's probably

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Speaker 1: dangerous on my part to try to say, Okay, two

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Speaker 1: positions have been hired, so that's a trend. But perhaps

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Speaker 1: that's why some of the X head coaches UH haven't

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Speaker 1: gotten a look. Pendulums and trends in this league UH

594
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:19,400
Speaker 1: tend to sway back and forth every couple of years.

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Speaker 1: That's what just one feels like right now. John Ozer,

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Speaker 1: Jaguars dot Com senior writer with us, Who do you

597
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:29,600
Speaker 1: like in the games this weekend? John? Good? You know it.

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Speaker 1: Let's just hope they're as good as last week's, right.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not sure you can expect the Buffalo

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Speaker 1: Kansas City. Uh yeah, you know me. The old school

601
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Speaker 1: guy in me was screaming for some defense in that game,

602
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Speaker 1: but nobody else seemed to want it, so I was

603
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Speaker 1: just kinda I was the old man yelling at the

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Speaker 1: moon on that one but fantastic game. I think I

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Speaker 1: like uh, I like the forty Niners over the Rams

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Speaker 1: because they seem to be able to handle that team.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's a coincidence they've won so many

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Speaker 1: a New Row against them. They seem to match up

609
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Speaker 1: and their physical and compound at him, and the Rams

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Speaker 1: haven't handled that that well. So maybe that's the way

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Speaker 1: that one goes. I I typically believe when a team

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Speaker 1: has been there that often as Kansas City. With a

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Speaker 1: quarterback like that, Kansas City is starting to feel a

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Speaker 1: little bit like the Brady Air of Patriots, where you

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Speaker 1: better bring a lot if you're going to knock them off.

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Speaker 1: And for a young team to knock them off, this

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Speaker 1: may be a situation where Cincinnati needs to be there one,

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Speaker 1: get the experience and come back and go after him again.

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Speaker 1: The Chiefs at home are gonna be tough to beat

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Speaker 1: that one. Yeah, Chiefs, but it's a fourth straight conference

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Speaker 1: championship game and that's an amazing stat by the way.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it is uh all at home too. I

623
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Speaker 1: know they didn't learn the home in the home field

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Speaker 1: this year, but you know, I'm sure it will happen

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Speaker 1: again someday. But ain't gonna be a lot. Yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: a It's a heck of a run for sure. John.

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Speaker 1: We're going to the Senior Bowl next week maybe if

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Speaker 1: if breaking news doesn't stop us from going. But hey,

629
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Speaker 1: another Senior Bowl run. It's been a little bit since

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Speaker 1: I've been to one. I haven't been to the new

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Speaker 1: stadium yet. Looking forward to that. And it's really as

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Speaker 1: we were talking to Pete a moment ago, Pete Prisco,

633
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Speaker 1: you've heard of him. Um, it's really the first big

634
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Speaker 1: offseason coaching convention of sorts, and a lot of business

635
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:32,239
Speaker 1: can be done in that week next week. Yeah, Pete

636
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Speaker 1: and I used to call it the Garb set because

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Speaker 1: you would walk around and all the newly hired coaches

638
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:39,759
Speaker 1: were supporting their new Back in the day used to

639
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Speaker 1: be starter Garb. I think. So it's always interesting to

640
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:47,120
Speaker 1: people watch there, but it is it's not the extent

641
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:50,759
Speaker 1: of the combine where everybody's there, and the Senior Bowl

642
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:54,239
Speaker 1: has has fallen off a little bit in terms of

643
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:57,520
Speaker 1: the number of head coaches you see, because I think

644
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:02,960
Speaker 1: so do with so many changes uh staff that change

645
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 1: typically can't get over to the Senior Bowl. But it

646
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 1: it is certainly a it's the convention where you start

647
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:12,240
Speaker 1: to hear things. It's not as much of a job

648
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:14,280
Speaker 1: fair as I think it was back when I started

649
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:16,920
Speaker 1: covering the nineties and early two thousands, but it certainly

650
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:21,239
Speaker 1: where you started hearing gossips been for us DP obviously. UM,

651
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Speaker 1: I know we were talking about it in our planning

652
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 1: meeting today. We're thinking so much about the head coach

653
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 1: and everything going on right now that it's easy to

654
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:32,080
Speaker 1: forget that dat Wards has the number one pick. It's

655
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 1: it's uh, that hasn't really been much of a topic.

656
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:38,319
Speaker 1: But for me personally, I'm looking forward to getting out there.

657
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 1: That's always where I start really thinking about the draft

658
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:43,279
Speaker 1: and trying to figure out how things will play out.

659
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Speaker 1: So I'm looking forward to go ahead and talking to

660
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Speaker 1: people about these top guys, about the depth of the draft. Uh,

661
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:53,440
Speaker 1: that's what the Senior Bowl is really all about. Uh,

662
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:55,400
Speaker 1: although this year we'll see if we're going. I know

663
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:59,920
Speaker 1: JP from experience. Once somebody tells you you're going to Mobile,

664
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Speaker 1: it's hard to get you off that sent I've spent

665
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Speaker 1: many of nights in that town. Um many a long,

666
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Speaker 1: long night in that. Don't tell you you're going to

667
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 1: Mobile and then turn that around, yeah, because I might

668
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Speaker 1: just still go anyway. You never know, John, thanks to

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Speaker 1: the time, Buddy, appreciate it. We'll talk to you all right,

670
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 1: but anytime we'll talk John Os. You're Jaguars dot Com

671
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 1: senior writer joining us. A lot going on, obviously, It's

672
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:31,480
Speaker 1: it's easy to forget that. Yes, the Jaguars have the

673
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:35,239
Speaker 1: number one overall pick again, second year a row. I mean,

674
00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:36,960
Speaker 1: I don't think you wanted three years in a row.

675
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Speaker 1: In fact, I know you don't, but hey, you got it,

676
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:44,200
Speaker 1: so make sure you do all the due diligence, get

677
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 1: the right guy. That that's we're gonna start that offseason

678
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Speaker 1: content strategy plan, of course, in the next little bit

679
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:55,359
Speaker 1: here on Jaguars dot Com, so stay tuned for that

680
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Speaker 1: as we move forward. We're back in a moment Bucky

681
00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:01,239
Speaker 1: Brooks joining us NFL Network analyst. He's out in l A.

682
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:04,680
Speaker 1: We'll get his thoughts on the Jaguars search. He's got

683
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:08,879
Speaker 1: the Collegiate Bowl coming up, the Shrine game, all that

684
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:11,440
Speaker 1: right around the corner for Bucky. And this is Jaguars

685
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Speaker 1: Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network. Welcome back. It's

686
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Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hour. J P. Shadrick with you from the

687
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Speaker 1: home studio today. Close Contact ball as well, though it's

688
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Speaker 1: our first show since the end of the regular season.

689
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 1: The day after, we had a Monday edition of Jaguars

690
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Speaker 1: Happy Hour. The Jaguars still have a coaching vacancy, but

691
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Speaker 1: there are many names that have been thrown around with it,

692
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Speaker 1: most recently of course, Byron Leftwich. No new news yet,

693
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Speaker 1: but we'll see. We hear Pete Prisco earlier say Hey,

694
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:49,120
Speaker 1: you know, maybe the next couple of days. They you'd

695
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Speaker 1: like to have somebody in place before the Senior Bowl

696
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:54,600
Speaker 1: and all that going on. But then in the grand

697
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:57,840
Speaker 1: scheme of things, there's really not a huge rush because

698
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 1: you just want to get it right. We get it

699
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Speaker 1: right anytime. Bucky Brooks is on with US NFL Network

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Speaker 1: analyst joining us from Los Angeles. Good afternoon, Bucky, what's up?

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Speaker 1: What m JP? What's up? My guy? I haven't talked

702
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:14,080
Speaker 1: to you forever. It's been a minute. It's been a minute. Yeah,

703
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:15,480
Speaker 1: it's good to talk to you. Thanks for the time.

704
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 1: We appreciate it. I know. Um. You know. So the

705
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:23,920
Speaker 1: social media thing is is nuts, right. I mean, everybody

706
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:27,319
Speaker 1: is has a report, everybody has an angle. Fans are

707
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:31,040
Speaker 1: all about getting this thing done as fast as possible.

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00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 1: And when they hear the name Byron left, which now

709
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:37,280
Speaker 1: it's okay, let's go get Byron. And then Nate Hacketts

710
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:39,759
Speaker 1: gets fired, it gets hired by the Broncos, one of

711
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:42,560
Speaker 1: the names that was in the hunt. There goes Zebra

712
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 1: flues to Chicago. All in the last day. I think

713
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:52,120
Speaker 1: that's ramped people's eagerness up again. Everybody's trying to get

714
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Speaker 1: this thing done quickly, at least the for the fan base. Now,

715
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Speaker 1: from a team perspective, you just gotta go get the

716
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:01,440
Speaker 1: right guy and not worry about the timing. Right, you

717
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:03,399
Speaker 1: do have to get the right guy, But timing does

718
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:06,960
Speaker 1: matter now that coaches have been put in seats, because

719
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:09,560
Speaker 1: what happens is if you don't get your head coach

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Speaker 1: in the building right away, he now has to wait

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Speaker 1: to hire coaches and then you kind of left with

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Speaker 1: the picked over selection. And so the sooner that you're

723
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:20,480
Speaker 1: able to get the head coach in, the better he's

724
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Speaker 1: able to assemble his staff, he's able to get top

725
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:25,839
Speaker 1: quality coaches as opposed to settling. Now. I'm not saying

726
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Speaker 1: that there's a huge disparity between some of the coaches,

727
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Speaker 1: but you would like him to have his ideal pick.

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Speaker 1: So you want to kind of secure the bag when

729
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Speaker 1: it comes to that, get the head coach in, and

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Speaker 1: then build it out from there. There's a lot of

731
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Speaker 1: work to do, and so I think Jaguars fans are

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00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:41,880
Speaker 1: right to be anxious to see how they're gonna get

733
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Speaker 1: the work done. That's how these things go, right. I mean,

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Speaker 1: there's teams that come in and ask for interviews there,

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Speaker 1: you know, and then you might have a guy in

736
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Speaker 1: mind or maybe maybe negotiating, and here comes the Saints.

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Speaker 1: They want to talk to Byron too. They still have

738
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Speaker 1: an opening, they have a relatively new opening. So how

739
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Speaker 1: much of that is posturing, how much of it is negotiation,

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Speaker 1: how much of it is real, all of it, all

741
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Speaker 1: of it is. In these situations when you're trying to

742
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Speaker 1: figure out, um, who's going to be the coach, how

743
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:15,400
Speaker 1: much money you're willing to pay the coach, it all

744
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 1: comes down to leverage, and sometimes you get what you negotiate.

745
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:20,160
Speaker 1: And so if you do have another team come in

746
00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 1: at the eleventh hour, that kind of raises the stakes

747
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:26,920
Speaker 1: a little bit, and then you have guys go, guys

748
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:28,839
Speaker 1: that you knew were really in play at the job.

749
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:31,960
Speaker 1: Leverage swings and it shifts, and so you have to

750
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:33,719
Speaker 1: be careful playing the game. But it certainly is a

751
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:36,200
Speaker 1: part of the conversation. And what you would hope is

752
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:38,560
Speaker 1: in the next few days that something is wrapped up,

753
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 1: you get the coach, you have everything lined up. There's

754
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:45,879
Speaker 1: a level of i would say unison or uniformity when

755
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:47,560
Speaker 1: it comes to the way the head coach and the

756
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 1: general manager and everybody is on board. And then the

757
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:54,359
Speaker 1: way we go about the Vic Fangio bomb that came

758
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Speaker 1: in yesterday that the Jags are sent to play that

759
00:40:57,120 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 1: out not for hack It, but for Vic Fangio. And

760
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:03,759
Speaker 1: then later report was maybe it was because of the

761
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:07,040
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator possibilities. That's that's a name that was kind

762
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 1: of thrown out of nowhere. Yeah, I mean, look, I

763
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:13,840
Speaker 1: think this business is a relationship business. And when you

764
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Speaker 1: go back and you look at general manager Trent Balky's

765
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:20,319
Speaker 1: relationship with Big Fangio. Fangio was the defensive coordinator at

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Speaker 1: the time he was there at the Sannaessisco Forts, So

767
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:27,600
Speaker 1: there's a natural um connectivity between them. They've seen each

768
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Speaker 1: other's work. There's probably a level of respect and appreciation.

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Speaker 1: Maybe Balky respects and appreciates what Fanjo was able to

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Speaker 1: do maybe in Denver and some uh difficult circumstances, particularly

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Speaker 1: a quarterback, and so you know they're gonna kick the

772
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Speaker 1: tires and kind of do those things. And it's also

773
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Speaker 1: a situation where um sometimes as the leader of the

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Speaker 1: organization and will say that right now, Balky is the

775
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Speaker 1: leader of the organization. Some time you're trying to figure

776
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:55,000
Speaker 1: out how can I have the best alignment with the

777
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:57,719
Speaker 1: coach as opposed to what others on the outside might

778
00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 1: be the best coach in candidate Bucky Brooks with this

779
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:06,360
Speaker 1: NFL Network analyst, of course, the Jaguars coaching gigs still open.

780
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:11,759
Speaker 1: One of the reports earlier today from Arizona was that, yeah,

781
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:14,520
Speaker 1: Byron Left, which was going to be the Jaguars head coach,

782
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:20,880
Speaker 1: but a member of the Cardinals front office would be GM.

783
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:23,799
Speaker 1: All that combined. Of course, as you just said, there

784
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 1: is a GM here in Jacksonville. Trent Balky is the

785
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Speaker 1: general manager. What do you know about Wilson and what

786
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:32,759
Speaker 1: he's done with the Cardinals. Yeah, Adrian Wilson is a

787
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:35,920
Speaker 1: was an now standing player in this league, big time

788
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:38,919
Speaker 1: playing in this league as a safety transition from being

789
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:41,600
Speaker 1: a player to me in a very well respected front

790
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:44,840
Speaker 1: office executive, worked his way up the ladder in Arizona

791
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:48,120
Speaker 1: after his playing days. Uh, comes well equipped with the

792
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:52,239
Speaker 1: team building strategies that you certainly would like. Um, Look,

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00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:55,799
Speaker 1: I understand Byron Left, which has spent time in Arizona.

794
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:57,759
Speaker 1: And so if you're the head coach and you have

795
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Speaker 1: an opportunity to pick hand pick your personnel. Man, you're

796
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:04,239
Speaker 1: on someone that you trust, someone that might see the

797
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:06,560
Speaker 1: game the same way that you see the game, so

798
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 1: that you're in lockstep when it comes to building up

799
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:14,359
Speaker 1: the Jaguars. I'm not necessarily surprised by the names and

800
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:17,839
Speaker 1: the connections and how they're kind of joined at the hip.

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00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 1: I just think it's a little odd when you have

802
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:26,480
Speaker 1: a GM in place who reportedly is running the coaching search.

803
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 1: Look at a bowl move, however, it's a move that,

804
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:31,360
Speaker 1: depending on the leverage that you have, it's one that

805
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:35,640
Speaker 1: you can make interesting for sure. Bucky Brooks with us

806
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:40,240
Speaker 1: NFL network analysts, So all right, you're let's let's change

807
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:43,720
Speaker 1: gears here. You're this is the pre draft season is underway,

808
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 1: Collegiate bowls this week, the Shrine Game is coming up,

809
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:51,000
Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl is next week. I mean we're here now, Bucky,

810
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:54,200
Speaker 1: here it is. Yeah, we're here right now. I mean

811
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:57,800
Speaker 1: we're in full mock draft season. Everyone is speculating who's

812
00:43:57,840 --> 00:43:59,880
Speaker 1: going where, even though we don't even have coaches and

813
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 1: we were still waiting to see on general manager. Doesn't

814
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:04,200
Speaker 1: stop us from trying to connect the dots and see

815
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:06,120
Speaker 1: where it's gonna go. I think it's an exciting time

816
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:08,839
Speaker 1: in the league because obviously everyone is able to kind

817
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:11,440
Speaker 1: of turn the page because as these teams get eliminated

818
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 1: from the tournament, everyone cast their eyes to next year

819
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:16,840
Speaker 1: and how their team can get better. I think for

820
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Speaker 1: the Jaguars, I think it's a huge year because you

821
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Speaker 1: have the number one pick for the second year and

822
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:23,880
Speaker 1: row uh, that pick needs to be an impact player,

823
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Speaker 1: a difference maker, a franchise pillar, and so I think

824
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:30,319
Speaker 1: the curiosity for me and for others sense from the

825
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:33,840
Speaker 1: fact on how are the Jaguars going to do this rebuild?

826
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 1: Are they going to initially rebuild around Trevor Lawrence? So

827
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 1: it's going to be offensive centric, much like we saw

828
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Speaker 1: the Cincinnati Bengals be able to do. And in two

829
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:45,160
Speaker 1: years the Cincinnati Bengals are aware. Everyone would aspire to

830
00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:47,759
Speaker 1: be one game away from the super Bowl. Or is

831
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 1: this going to be a situation where you're looking at

832
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Speaker 1: the defense and saying, hey, let's get a pass for us, Sure,

833
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:53,799
Speaker 1: let's add to the defense. Maybe we can bring the

834
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:56,360
Speaker 1: defense up the snuff. A lot of fascinating debates that

835
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:59,279
Speaker 1: take place over the next three or four months. You

836
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:02,280
Speaker 1: gotta score points. I mean, look at the playoff games,

837
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:05,319
Speaker 1: but you gotta score points. So I just said here

838
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:10,880
Speaker 1: and saw San Francisco in Green Bay Cincinnati Bengals nineteen sixteen.

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Speaker 1: What are we talking about, JP. It wasn't until we

840
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:16,440
Speaker 1: were forced in the last two minutes of the Buffalo

841
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:19,440
Speaker 1: Bills and the Kansas City Chiefs that we had to

842
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:21,480
Speaker 1: score points. That was the only game where we had

843
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 1: to really do it. The rest of the games, like,

844
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 1: they scored more points in those two minutes in the

845
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:28,839
Speaker 1: Jags scored all season. You kidn't mean they did. They did,

846
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:31,399
Speaker 1: but it took the pressure of a two minute drill

847
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:34,160
Speaker 1: and about to go home before they decided to ramp

848
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Speaker 1: it up. And it also depends on the level of quarterback.

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Speaker 1: I do know now though, JP. I think now more

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Speaker 1: than ever the importance of having um and elite franchise

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Speaker 1: quarterback in the fall UM. I think, by all accounts,

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Speaker 1: we feel hopefully and optimistics about Trevor Lawrence. But you

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Speaker 1: now see like, Okay, you get the quarterback one year,

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Speaker 1: you get the weapons the next year, and the way

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Speaker 1: we go and I think the Joe Burrow model what

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Speaker 1: we saw those high flowered playmakers, JA mar Chase Tyler

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Speaker 1: boyd um Tee, Higgins, Joe Mixing, whatever. That offensive line

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Speaker 1: looks like they do put points on the board, and

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Speaker 1: then they did they committed a lot of free agent

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Speaker 1: resources to the defense. But I do believe that that

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Speaker 1: as a model that if I was sniffing around the

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Speaker 1: building in Jacksonville, I might just kind of drop some

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Speaker 1: who they posts around. Maybe just look at how those

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Speaker 1: guys did it, because they're right there. So you know,

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Speaker 1: how about the trend of these mobile quarterbacks because the

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Speaker 1: homes can move around. Of course, johsnh Allen, we saw

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Speaker 1: what he can do with that size and mobility and

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Speaker 1: all that. I don't know if Burrows exactly a runner,

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Speaker 1: but Trevor has the ability to do that? Is that

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Speaker 1: the future? You everybody's gonna kind of want these guys

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Speaker 1: that can move around more than just stand there like

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Speaker 1: a statue. Yeah, you can't be a statue. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if you necessarily um one of the guy that's

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Speaker 1: a runner. Even though man Josh Allen is such an outlier,

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Speaker 1: like big physical running over guys, I mean, superhero with

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Speaker 1: the ball in his hands. And keep in mind that

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Speaker 1: guy came to jackson and got thwarted got stimy nine six.

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Speaker 1: You know all the points that we saw in that game,

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Speaker 1: so um it is fascinated. But JP, I think you

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Speaker 1: cannot look at the tournament and not come away knowing

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Speaker 1: that you have to have a guy to do it,

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Speaker 1: and that you can get so far with the guy

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Speaker 1: who is fine and the team around him is great.

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Speaker 1: But if you're going to be one of the last

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Speaker 1: team standing, you better have a dude. Now. The only

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Speaker 1: outlier of the group is Jimmy Garoppolo, because I think

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Speaker 1: we all are like, Jimmy's all right, He's okay, you know,

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Speaker 1: he's B B B minus. But the team is so

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Speaker 1: good and it's so physical. I just wonder about the

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Speaker 1: marsin Rivera. That's it. They could wind it. They wind

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Speaker 1: up in the super Bowl because they're so good, they

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Speaker 1: physical or whatever the other thing. I think Now, the

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Speaker 1: formula is quarterback, a level, pass rush, a level playmakers.

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Speaker 1: That other stuff you can work around, but you have

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Speaker 1: to have the pass rushing to go with the quarterback

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Speaker 1: to be able to do it. Bucky, we've got about

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Speaker 1: a minute left with you here, so quickly, who do

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Speaker 1: you like in the games on on Sunday? Oh, this

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Speaker 1: is so much fun. I'm gonna go to KNCY the

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Speaker 1: Chiefs because I think the KNC the Chiefs have the

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Speaker 1: recipe for getting it done. I mean, you go to

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Speaker 1: three straight title games, you can do street super Bowls

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Speaker 1: like that is a remarkable councer. I think that experience

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Speaker 1: gives them a little bit. And the thing the San

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Speaker 1: Francisco fort nine is and l a Rams is so

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Speaker 1: interesting because the forty nine is absolutely on the Rams,

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Speaker 1: much like the Jacksonville jack Wards owned the coach where

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Speaker 1: it doesn't matter, they just owned them. It doesn't matter

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Speaker 1: where you roll the ball out, how bad the team

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Speaker 1: is when they play that team, they do it. But man,

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Speaker 1: the star power of the Rams is fascinating. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: go with the Rams in this one because I feel

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Speaker 1: like they find the way to get it done. The man,

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised if he goes. We'll see see

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Speaker 1: how many Rams fans sell their tickets to Sam trying

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Speaker 1: to block them out. But the faith of the faith

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Speaker 1: was gooding out. They can't let it can't be all

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Speaker 1: rid on Championship Sunday. It just can't be all read. Bucky,

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Speaker 1: enjoy it. Thanks for the time. We appreciate it as always. Man,

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Speaker 1: Hey Man, call me any time. Bucky Brooks, NFL Network

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Speaker 1: analyst here. Thanks also to Pete Prisco, CBS Sports Senior Writer,

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Speaker 1: John Osher, Jaguars dot Com senior writer Joe Fortunato on

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Speaker 1: the audio side. Brent, we were on the video side,

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Speaker 1: and thank you for watching and listening. It's Jaguars Happy

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Speaker 1: Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network.