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Speaker 2: Good morning, I'm Nathan Hager and I'm Karen Moscow. Here
Speaker 2: are the stories we're following today, Karen.
Speaker 3: Oil is on the rise once again following the latest
Speaker 3: developments in the Middle East. West Texas Intermediate CREWED is
Speaker 3: up two and to third percent, trading its seventy one
Speaker 3: dollars forty five cents per barrel Brent. The international benchmark
Speaker 3: is up two point two percent, trading above seventy five dollars.
Speaker 3: This as Israel vows to retaliate after Iran fired about
Speaker 3: two hundred ballistic missiles at the country. Israel says most
Speaker 3: of them were intercepted, but one person was reportedly killed
Speaker 3: in the West Bank. Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyah, who
Speaker 3: says they will fight back.
Speaker 4: Mal Mazaganosherlan.
Speaker 5: Iran made a major mistake and it will pay for it.
Speaker 6: Do agm in Iran just ton't understand our determination to
Speaker 6: defend OFFO and our determination to retaliate to our enemies.
Speaker 3: Benjamin Netanyahu's speaking there through an interpreter. US warships helped
Speaker 3: to shoot down the Iranian projectiles. The US says the
Speaker 3: attack appears to have been defeated and ineffective. Bloomberg News
Speaker 3: Middle East Breaking News editor Dana Krash has more on
Speaker 3: diplomatic efforts to end the fighting.
Speaker 7: The US has been taking on this diplomatic role primarily
Speaker 7: because it doesn't want to be dragged in a war
Speaker 7: in the Middle East. It has interests there, it has
Speaker 7: bases there, and that could be very risky for them.
Speaker 7: It is not just a risk from Iran firing directly
Speaker 7: at Israel, but also proxies spread around to fire at
Speaker 7: US interests in US basis in the region. You have
Speaker 7: once in Syria, once in a rock stale. Even after
Speaker 7: the Israeli attack on the southern suburbs in Beirut, there
Speaker 7: were reports in local media that there was heavy deployment
Speaker 7: by the Lebanese army around the US embassy there. So
Speaker 7: these interests are at risk because of the proxies, and
Speaker 7: the US is trying not to drag itself into this
Speaker 7: war that is becoming more regional by the day.
Speaker 3: Bloomberg's Dana Krasch says Iran's latest move was a reprisal
Speaker 3: for Israel's case of the leader of Hesballah, Hassan Nosrala
Speaker 3: well Nathan.
Speaker 2: The war in the Middle East was one of the
Speaker 2: opening topics and what could be the final debate of
Speaker 2: twenty twenty four. Democrat Tim Wallace went after former President
Speaker 2: Trump at the start of the CBS News vice presidential debate.
Speaker 8: It's those that were closest to Donald Trump that understand
Speaker 8: how dangerous he is. When the world is this dangerous,
Speaker 8: His chief of staff, John Kelly said that he was
Speaker 8: the most flawed human being he'd ever met.
Speaker 1: Republican JD. Vance was quick to respond.
Speaker 9: As much as Governor Waltz just accused Donald Trump of
Speaker 9: being an agent of chaos. Donald Trump actually delivered stability
Speaker 9: in the world, and he did it by establishing effective deterrence.
Speaker 2: The two running mates also sparred over immigration and the economy.
Speaker 2: Senator Vance aimed his fire at the top of the ticket.
Speaker 9: If Kamala Harris has such great plans for how to
Speaker 9: address middle class problems, then she ought to do them now.
Speaker 9: Not one asking for promotion, but in the job the
Speaker 9: American people gave her three and a half years ago.
Speaker 3: And during the debate, Governor Walls appeared nervous at times.
Speaker 3: He addressed some of his past misstatements, like when he
Speaker 3: said he was in Hong Kong for the TN and
Speaker 3: Men's Square protests in nineteen eighty nine.
Speaker 8: All I said on this was is I got there
Speaker 8: that summer and misspoke on this, So I will just
Speaker 8: that's what I've said.
Speaker 3: And Senator Vance tried to soften his party's approach on
Speaker 3: abortion rights, an issue that Democrats have tried to capitalize on.
Speaker 9: We've got to do so much better of a job
Speaker 9: at earning the American people's trust back on this issue
Speaker 9: where they frankly just don't trust us. And I think
Speaker 9: that's one of the things that Donald Trump and I
Speaker 9: are endeavoring to do.
Speaker 3: And following the CBS News vice presidential debate, Donald Trump
Speaker 3: posted on social media that he not only doesn't support
Speaker 3: a federal abortion ban, he would veto it.
Speaker 2: Well, Nathan, there is plenty of reaction to the vice
Speaker 2: presidential debate, and here's a Bloomberg Politics contributors Genie Zeno
Speaker 2: and Rick Davis right after the debate.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know if there were winners and losers.
Speaker 3: I think it's one of them sort of comported themselves
Speaker 3: in a way that wasn't, you know, particularly special, but
Speaker 3: you know, sort of met the needs of of their candidates.
Speaker 10: I think from a purely debating perspective, I think you
Speaker 10: have to give it to jd Vance. I don't think
Speaker 10: that's much of a surprise.
Speaker 1: He is a season debater.
Speaker 10: I think what he did that through Tim waltz Off
Speaker 10: a bit, was he was very sort of willing to
Speaker 10: reach across the aisle.
Speaker 1: He was friendly, he.
Speaker 10: Was affable, he was talking about being bipartisan, all of
Speaker 10: those kinds of things.
Speaker 2: And that's Bloomberg Politics contributors Jeannie Zeno and Rick Davis
Speaker 2: on a special debate edition of Bloomberg Balance of Power
Speaker 2: with Joe Matthew and Kaylee Lodge.
Speaker 1: Here.
Speaker 2: More of their analysis on the Balance of Power podcast
Speaker 2: available wherever you download.
Speaker 3: Well, Karen, it is day two of the strike that
Speaker 3: has shut down thirty six ports in the United States.
Speaker 3: Bloomberg's John Tucker is here with the latest. So, John,
Speaker 3: are we seeing any signs of progress?
Speaker 11: Few? If any. Nathan President Biden met with his chief
Speaker 11: of staff and other senior ags yesterday evening to discuss
Speaker 11: the strike and reiterated his desire for his team to continue,
Speaker 11: urging the carriers to present a strong offer to the
Speaker 11: long shoreman Acting Labor Secretary Julie Sue she could prove
Speaker 11: the instrumental she helped to broker a deal between West
Speaker 11: Coast doc workers and their employers last summer. The ISLA
Speaker 11: President Harold Daggett told longshormant of the picking lines to
Speaker 11: prepare to stay off the job for as long as
Speaker 11: it takes to get a deal for even higher pay
Speaker 11: and protections from automation, which actually could prove to be
Speaker 11: the bigger obstacle of Bloomberg Economics estimates a hit to
Speaker 11: GDP of as much as three billion dollars per day
Speaker 11: from foregone spending at production. A week long strike could
Speaker 11: knock three tenths of a percentage point off annualized GDP
Speaker 11: In New York. I'm John Tucker, Bloomberg Radio.
Speaker 1: All right, John, thank you.
Speaker 4: Well.
Speaker 2: Let's turn to the markets now, and futures are lower
Speaker 2: again following the escalation of fighting in the Middle East.
Speaker 2: As for company news, shares in Nike, they're down more
Speaker 2: than five percent this morning. The company has withdrawn its
Speaker 2: guidance after sales missed estimates, and we get the numbers
Speaker 2: from Bloomberg's Charlie Pillett.
Speaker 12: It underscores the ch challenge that incoming CEO Elliot Hill,
Speaker 12: will face when he takes the reins later this month.
Speaker 12: During the company's call with analysts, chief financial officer Matt
Speaker 12: Friend said the move was due to the upcoming leadership transition.
Speaker 12: Before the call, Nike reported revenue in the fiscal first
Speaker 12: quarter that dropped ten percent to eleven point five to
Speaker 12: nine billion dollars, falling short of the average analyst estimate.
Speaker 12: The declines were especially sharp in North America and the
Speaker 12: region including Europe, Africa, and the Middle East, while the
Speaker 12: Converse brand also persisted as a problem area in New
Speaker 12: York Charlie Pellett Bloomberg.
Speaker 3: Radio, all Right, Charlie, thank you. And in Asia, Chinese
Speaker 3: shares listed in Hong Kong have jumped the most in
Speaker 3: almost two years as traders returned from a public holiday.
Speaker 3: The Hangsang China Enterprises Index climbed by more than eight percent.
Speaker 3: The extended rally comes off the back of increased optimism
Speaker 3: around China's economy. Authorities unveiled a range of stimulus measures
Speaker 3: last week.
Speaker 1: Hey, it's time now.
Speaker 2: For look at some of the other stories making news
Speaker 2: in New York and around the world, And for that
Speaker 2: We're joined by Bloomberg's Michael Barr.
Speaker 1: Michael, Good morning, Good morning Karen.
Speaker 6: Today, President Biden will surveyed the devastation in the southeast
Speaker 6: caused by Hurricane Helene. Biden says it's urgent to get
Speaker 6: a federal response to the victims of the storm. He
Speaker 6: also talked about the administration's preparation ahead of Helene.
Speaker 3: We had over one thousand federal personnel, including search and
Speaker 3: rescue teams, at the ready on the ground before.
Speaker 6: It hit, Biden spoke at an interagency briefing dedicated to
Speaker 6: the federal government's response to Hurricane Helene. More than one
Speaker 6: hundred and sixty people were killed in the storm, and
Speaker 6: hundreds are still unaccounted for. North Carolina Governor Roy Cooper.
Speaker 13: We have ninety two search and rescue teams who are
Speaker 13: continuing to work to rescue people. We know that there
Speaker 13: will be more fatalities.
Speaker 6: Governor Cooper says, Rescue teams trying to reach those washed
Speaker 6: out by the catastrophic flooding. The attorney representing Sean Didty
Speaker 6: Combs categorically denies claims that his clients sexually assaulted anyone.
Speaker 6: This after a new lawsuit filed against the hip hop
Speaker 6: Pioneer on behalf of more than one hundred alleged victims.
Speaker 6: They're suing Combs, claiming they are victims of the Hip
Speaker 6: hop Mogul. Several alleged that they were invited to a
Speaker 6: party and given a drink that made them block out.
Speaker 6: Attorney for the alleged victims Tony Busby, we.
Speaker 14: Now represent one hundred and twenty individuals who intend to
Speaker 14: bring civil claims in civil court against Sean Ditty Combs,
Speaker 14: as well as claims against many other individuals and entities.
Speaker 6: Combs is in jail after a New York judge denied
Speaker 6: the Hip Hop Mogul's requests for bail last month on
Speaker 6: charges of sexual assault and racketeering. The change of plea
Speaker 6: hearing for the former doctor charged in actor Matthew Perry's
Speaker 6: death is scheduled for today in Los Angeles. He is
Speaker 6: expected to plead guilty to one count of conspiracy to
Speaker 6: distribute ketamine. Perry suffered from depression, and his doctors convinced
Speaker 6: him that he needed to take high doses of ketamine.
Speaker 6: And John Amos, who starred as the family patriarch on
Speaker 6: the hit nineteen seventy sitcom, Good Times has died. Amos
Speaker 6: also earned an Emmy nomination for his role in the
Speaker 6: nineteen seventy seven mini series Roots. John Amos was eighty
Speaker 6: four Global News, twenty four hours a day and whenever
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Speaker 1: All right, Michael Barr, thank you.
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Speaker 16: They now lead the Brewers eight to four, and this
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Speaker 1: Two outs ESPN the call.
Speaker 15: Not a single hit by either team after that, Mets one,
Speaker 15: eight to four. Another win tonight gives in their first
Speaker 15: series victories in twenty fifteen and San Diego Fernando Tatis
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Speaker 15: in the semifinals, they go for the sweep Friday in Vegas.
Speaker 15: The link speaks the sun that series.
Speaker 17: Time of one.
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Speaker 15: Davonte Adams. They admit to talking to Teams. Adams has
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Speaker 3: Good morning, I'm Nathan Hager. Tensions in the Middle East
Speaker 3: running higher than ever after Iran's barrage of ballistic missile
Speaker 3: attacks against Israel. Speaking through an interpreter, Israeli Prime Minister
Speaker 3: Benjamin Natan Yahoo is promising to retaliate.
Speaker 6: The regime in Iran does not.
Speaker 8: Understand our determination to defend ourselves and our determination to
Speaker 8: taliate against our enemies.
Speaker 3: For the very latest with us from Tel Aviv is
Speaker 3: Bloomberg News Israel Bureau chief Ethan Bronner Ethan, good morning.
Speaker 3: First off, do we have a sense of the impact
Speaker 3: of Iran's attack yesterday. Obviously it was much bigger than
Speaker 3: what we saw back in April, So.
Speaker 17: The attack was much bigger, Nathan, And indeed the impact
Speaker 17: was bigger, but it still was relatively limited. We're still
Speaker 17: gathering what we can figure out about. There seemed to
Speaker 17: have been some apartments damage to north of Tel Aviv.
Speaker 17: There was a restaurant damaged. There was one man killed
Speaker 17: in the West Bank of Palestinian but we're I'm unaware
Speaker 17: of any other deaths or any very serious damage from
Speaker 17: this attack. But they you know, these missiles got through
Speaker 17: some of the air defense systems and it was a
Speaker 17: much more punishing attack. This was this was two hundred
Speaker 17: or so missiles compared to what it was in where
Speaker 17: there were three hundred in April. But they but this
Speaker 17: time they were all ballistic missiles, so they were much
Speaker 17: more dangerous.
Speaker 3: At the same time, we did hear from the White
Speaker 3: House that really President Biden said that the attack appeared
Speaker 3: to have been defeated and ineffective. At the same time
Speaker 3: as we just heard Israeli Prime Minister Netsan yahoo Is
Speaker 3: vowing retaliation. What kind of response could we see could
Speaker 3: we be anticipating from the Israeli side.
Speaker 11: I think we're.
Speaker 17: Looking at a fairly severe expectation. I think that this
Speaker 17: is going to ratchet it up. I think the Israelis
Speaker 17: feel that they have to respond with severity.
Speaker 1: I don't know when it's.
Speaker 17: Going to come, but I think it's going to come
Speaker 17: in the coming days, and I think it's going to
Speaker 17: go after It's not going to be symbolic. It's going
Speaker 17: to go after some fairly important spots in Iran, strategic
Speaker 17: perhaps oil, perhaps nuclear. I don't know. The Americans say
Speaker 17: that they're on board with cooperating in some fashion. I
Speaker 17: think we are looking at a fairly intense upsurge here,
Speaker 17: to be honest.
Speaker 3: So we don't see any sign that the movement of
Speaker 3: further US personnel, further US equipment into the Middle East
Speaker 3: could be acting as some kind of deterrent at this point.
Speaker 17: I mean, when you say to Turrent, the implication is
Speaker 17: that deter Israel's actions, I think the idea, yeah, But
Speaker 17: I mean I think.
Speaker 3: That the turns to those things.
Speaker 17: Yeah, yeah, So don't I think that the goal of
Speaker 17: sending those people in personnel ad equipment is to bolster
Speaker 17: the anti Iran approach, And so I think that may happen,
Speaker 17: and I think that, No, I don't think that the
Speaker 17: Americans are seeking to drive Israel away from much. I
Speaker 17: don't know. I mean, obviously they're negotiating together right now,
Speaker 17: but I don't forget that the Americans said to Iran,
Speaker 17: don't do this, and if you do, there'll be severe consequences,
Speaker 17: And now it looks like there will be. I don't
Speaker 17: really know what that means, but I think there's reason
Speaker 17: to believe something quite serious is a foot and soon.
Speaker 3: Is there a risk at this point that if we
Speaker 3: do see a further direct confrontation between Iran and Israel,
Speaker 3: that even more parties could be drawn into the conflict.
Speaker 17: Sure, I mean the part is that you're thinking about,
Speaker 17: I suppose are the various militias and proxies that around
Speaker 17: you know, funds and train so they will. Certainly, I
Speaker 17: expect there'll be more terrorism inside as well, the way
Speaker 17: there was yesterday two guys carried out gun attacks south
Speaker 17: of Tel Aviv.
Speaker 1: There might be more of that.
Speaker 17: Look, I don't think that the States are going to
Speaker 17: get involved Syria, Egypt and so forth. And you know,
Speaker 17: I don't think so. I think when we talk about
Speaker 17: an uptick, we mean the United States and around.
Speaker 1: That's about as big as it gets.
Speaker 3: Right right, Well, We'll be continuing to monitor developments. We
Speaker 3: appreciate the update from you. Ethan Bronner, our Middle East
Speaker 3: Israel Bureau Chief, joining us this morning from Tel Aviv
Speaker 3: and for more insights. We have a roundtable discussion on
Speaker 3: what's happening in the Middle East, as well as reaction
Speaker 3: to the vice presidential debate from CBS News, where the
Speaker 3: tensions between Israel and I ron did figure prominently. Joining
Speaker 3: us now is Tina Fordham, the founder and geopolitical strategist
Speaker 3: at Fordham Global Foresight, along with Terry Haynes is the
Speaker 3: founder of Pangaea Policy. Thanks to both of you for
Speaker 3: being with us this morning. I want to start with you, Tina,
Speaker 3: where do you see the level of tension now between Israel,
Speaker 3: between Iran and Iran's proxies following Iran's missile attack.
Speaker 4: Thank you. It's clearly very elevated.
Speaker 18: Markets have been trying to ignore the escalation since October
Speaker 18: seventh of last year. The anniversary is coming up. Israel
Speaker 18: will need to respond and we stay in this very dangerous,
Speaker 18: high stakes game of geopolitical ping pong. But market participants
Speaker 18: will be focused on targets and for something that seems.
Speaker 4: To be different in terms of escalation.
Speaker 19: So last night's attack had a modest impact on oil prices,
Speaker 19: but that's going to be counterbalanced by Saudi Arabia's announcement
Speaker 19: that it's increasing its product targets.
Speaker 3: Terry, I want to bring you into this conversation as well.
Speaker 3: We saw the candidates for vice president address this issue,
Speaker 3: the current tensions between Israel and i Ron right at
Speaker 3: the top of last night's vice presidential debate. Did the
Speaker 3: running mates meet the moment? Did they make the case
Speaker 3: effectively in your view for the tops of the tickets
Speaker 3: being able to confront these geopolitical risks.
Speaker 5: Well, I don't think they convinced anybody that already wasn't convinced.
Speaker 5: For one candidate or the other. But the unanimity and
Speaker 5: the approach overall should be a significant takeaway for people
Speaker 5: outside the United States as to the degree of unity
Speaker 5: that in fact and bipartisan unity that in fact does exist.
Speaker 5: Beyond that, markets have been ignoring a great deal. You've
Speaker 5: already got the highest geo political risk in fifty years.
Speaker 5: This situation in the Middle East is preciously close to
Speaker 5: boiling over completely. A great deal depends on just how
Speaker 5: proportional the Israeli response is and to where it's pitched,
Speaker 5: whether it's you know, the Iranians of course, have have
Speaker 5: gone after the citizenry and you know, the Ethan and
Speaker 5: in your last segment says, I think quite rightly that
Speaker 5: what you're going to see from Israel is a lot
Speaker 5: more targeted towards towards military targets and the ability to
Speaker 5: continue to prosecute a war on the Iranian side. So
Speaker 5: you know, the question is what the Israelis do next
Speaker 5: and the degree to which the Iranians see that as
Speaker 5: a provocation. So this situation is much more, much more fraught,
Speaker 5: uh than markets are used to. Markets think this is
Speaker 5: the same old, same old, and they're reacting that way,
Speaker 5: and it's not.
Speaker 3: We did see a wide range of topics discussed in
Speaker 3: the vice presidential debate last night, Terry, I want to
Speaker 3: ask what stood out to you.
Speaker 5: Well, fundamentally, you know, for markets, what markets heard is
Speaker 5: that you know, I thought was very consequential. Rather, they
Speaker 5: didn't hear it. Neither ticket, nor did neither political party
Speaker 5: wants to deal with or talk about unsustainable US fiscal
Speaker 5: debt and deficit, which is firstly as a significant markets concern.
Speaker 7: Uh.
Speaker 5: Secondly, it imperils the ability of the United States to
Speaker 5: continue directly in perils now the ability to continue to
Speaker 5: fund domestic programs of all kinds. And thirdly, we're now
Speaker 5: in a situation I think that which markets are slow
Speaker 5: to pick up on that debt service is now larger
Speaker 5: than anything spending on anything else, larger than defense, larger
Speaker 5: than you know, healthcare, larger than anything. And you know,
Speaker 5: great powers don't last a great deal longer in that situation.
Speaker 5: And yet you know, neither political party is interested in
Speaker 5: even talking about it, much less dealing with it. Uh.
Speaker 5: So you know that I think that was a major
Speaker 5: market disappointment.
Speaker 3: Tina, Why are you some of your reactions to the
Speaker 3: Vice presidential debate. Obviously a lot of discussion, maybe not
Speaker 3: necessarily pointed on the fiscal policy, but we did hear
Speaker 3: a lot when it comes to the threat of tariffs
Speaker 3: from former President Trump on immigration as well.
Speaker 20: Well of all of the things that might move the
Speaker 20: needle in the polls that we could talk about, the
Speaker 20: escalation of the Middle East conflict being one of them,
Speaker 20: the long shoreman strike, Hurricane Helena.
Speaker 4: The VP debate does not figure. The discussion was not
Speaker 4: intended for market.
Speaker 18: Participants, and there has been no discussion whatsoever in this
Speaker 18: campaign about the US deficit and spending.
Speaker 4: That tells you something quite important.
Speaker 18: But I do think there were some interesting surprises that
Speaker 18: came out of the discussion, and one of them was
Speaker 18: that we saw a less of the attack dog JD events.
Speaker 18: He was smooth in his delivery, and there was a
Speaker 18: lot of you know, what is called midwestern nice.
Speaker 4: I don't think anybody was expecting that.
Speaker 3: It's an interesting point that you make there, Tina, that
Speaker 3: possibly world events, so much happening in the world, could
Speaker 3: wipe this vice presidential debate off of voters' memories, potentially
Speaker 3: with just about five weeks to go before the November election.
Speaker 3: Do you see any impact from the vice presidential debate
Speaker 3: when it comes to where things stand in the race
Speaker 3: in this very tight race between Donald Trump and Kamala Harris.
Speaker 4: Well.
Speaker 18: I wrote before the debate that I didn't want to
Speaker 18: discount anything that might see even a tiny shift in
Speaker 18: polling or sentiment, given how tight the race is.
Speaker 4: But is the VP debate going to register?
Speaker 18: I mean, the assassination attempt on Donald Trump didn't register
Speaker 18: in the polls.
Speaker 4: So I think we're.
Speaker 18: Going to forget about this debate tomorrow or maybe even
Speaker 18: by lunchtime.
Speaker 3: Terry, I want to bring you back in is that
Speaker 3: was this a forgettable debate? Is there's just too much
Speaker 3: going on that's going to take voters attention away.
Speaker 5: Look from a vice presidential the candidate perspective, a forgettable
Speaker 5: debate is a good debate. Uh. You know, these these
Speaker 5: people don't want to stand out or be a distraction
Speaker 5: to their ticket, and so so at route neither candidate
Speaker 5: harmed their ticket, harmed themselves. In fact that they did,
Speaker 5: both of them did themselves credit for a variety of reasons.
Speaker 5: But you know that the top of the ticket is
Speaker 5: going to continue to be what matters and and you know,
Speaker 5: Vance did, I thought the best he could with you know,
Speaker 5: things like January the sixth, and you know, the accusation
Speaker 5: that Trump was waffling back and forth on a variety
Speaker 5: of things and making things worse. But people have made
Speaker 5: their minds up about Trump regardless of what Vance had
Speaker 5: to say. And you know, so you know, the fact
Speaker 5: that both that this debate will be forgotten is a
Speaker 5: good thing for both tickets, frankly, because it refocuses on
Speaker 5: the top.
Speaker 3: Well, perhaps one thing that former President Trump might want
Speaker 3: voters to remember in the moments after the debate, Tina,
Speaker 3: is his promise now that he would vetail a federal
Speaker 3: abortion ban if it came to his desk. Do you
Speaker 3: see that moving the needle on this issue that Democrats
Speaker 3: have really tried to exploit. Only have about a minute left.
Speaker 18: Well, that was a dramatic change in stance from President Trump,
Speaker 18: and to me, it reflects that, you know, the data
Speaker 18: is probably being shown by his campaign that he's underwater
Speaker 18: with female voters, and there is a dramatic gender gap
Speaker 18: between Democrats and Republicans and as well as between the candidates.
Speaker 4: It is close to twenty percentage points.
Speaker 18: But I do think this announcement is too late and
Speaker 18: most people have settled into their positions. I don't think
Speaker 18: it will bring female voters to Trump, but maybe it
Speaker 18: will ease the minds of those who are concerned most
Speaker 18: about reproductive rights should he become president. Having said that
Speaker 18: he's a very malleable candidate when it comes to his positions.
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