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Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, Podcasts, radio News.

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Speaker 2: Good morning, I'm Nathan Hager and I'm Karen Moscow. Here

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Speaker 2: are the stories we're following today, Karen.

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Speaker 3: Oil is on the rise once again following the latest

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Speaker 3: developments in the Middle East. West Texas Intermediate CREWED is

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Speaker 3: up two and to third percent, trading its seventy one

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Speaker 3: dollars forty five cents per barrel Brent. The international benchmark

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Speaker 3: is up two point two percent, trading above seventy five dollars.

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Speaker 3: This as Israel vows to retaliate after Iran fired about

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Speaker 3: two hundred ballistic missiles at the country. Israel says most

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Speaker 3: of them were intercepted, but one person was reportedly killed

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Speaker 3: in the West Bank. Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyah, who

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Speaker 3: says they will fight back.

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Speaker 4: Mal Mazaganosherlan.

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Speaker 5: Iran made a major mistake and it will pay for it.

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Speaker 6: Do agm in Iran just ton't understand our determination to

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Speaker 6: defend OFFO and our determination to retaliate to our enemies.

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Speaker 3: Benjamin Netanyahu's speaking there through an interpreter. US warships helped

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Speaker 3: to shoot down the Iranian projectiles. The US says the

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Speaker 3: attack appears to have been defeated and ineffective. Bloomberg News

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Speaker 3: Middle East Breaking News editor Dana Krash has more on

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Speaker 3: diplomatic efforts to end the fighting.

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Speaker 7: The US has been taking on this diplomatic role primarily

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Speaker 7: because it doesn't want to be dragged in a war

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Speaker 7: in the Middle East. It has interests there, it has

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Speaker 7: bases there, and that could be very risky for them.

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Speaker 7: It is not just a risk from Iran firing directly

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Speaker 7: at Israel, but also proxies spread around to fire at

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Speaker 7: US interests in US basis in the region. You have

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Speaker 7: once in Syria, once in a rock stale. Even after

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Speaker 7: the Israeli attack on the southern suburbs in Beirut, there

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Speaker 7: were reports in local media that there was heavy deployment

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Speaker 7: these interests are at risk because of the proxies, and

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Speaker 7: the US is trying not to drag itself into this

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Speaker 7: war that is becoming more regional by the day.

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Speaker 3: Bloomberg's Dana Krasch says Iran's latest move was a reprisal

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Speaker 3: for Israel's case of the leader of Hesballah, Hassan Nosrala

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Speaker 3: well Nathan.

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Speaker 2: The war in the Middle East was one of the

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Speaker 2: opening topics and what could be the final debate of

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty four. Democrat Tim Wallace went after former President

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Speaker 2: Trump at the start of the CBS News vice presidential debate.

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Speaker 8: It's those that were closest to Donald Trump that understand

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Speaker 8: how dangerous he is. When the world is this dangerous,

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Speaker 8: His chief of staff, John Kelly said that he was

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Speaker 8: the most flawed human being he'd ever met.

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Speaker 1: Republican JD. Vance was quick to respond.

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Speaker 9: As much as Governor Waltz just accused Donald Trump of

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Speaker 9: being an agent of chaos. Donald Trump actually delivered stability

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Speaker 9: in the world, and he did it by establishing effective deterrence.

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Speaker 2: The two running mates also sparred over immigration and the economy.

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Speaker 2: Senator Vance aimed his fire at the top of the ticket.

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Speaker 9: If Kamala Harris has such great plans for how to

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Speaker 9: address middle class problems, then she ought to do them now.

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Speaker 9: Not one asking for promotion, but in the job the

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Speaker 9: American people gave her three and a half years ago.

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Speaker 3: And during the debate, Governor Walls appeared nervous at times.

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Speaker 3: He addressed some of his past misstatements, like when he

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Speaker 3: said he was in Hong Kong for the TN and

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Speaker 3: Men's Square protests in nineteen eighty nine.

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Speaker 8: All I said on this was is I got there

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Speaker 8: that's what I've said.

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Speaker 3: And Senator Vance tried to soften his party's approach on

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Speaker 3: abortion rights, an issue that Democrats have tried to capitalize on.

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Speaker 9: We've got to do so much better of a job

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Speaker 9: at earning the American people's trust back on this issue

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Speaker 9: where they frankly just don't trust us. And I think

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Speaker 9: that's one of the things that Donald Trump and I

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Speaker 9: are endeavoring to do.

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Speaker 3: And following the CBS News vice presidential debate, Donald Trump

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Speaker 3: posted on social media that he not only doesn't support

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Speaker 3: a federal abortion ban, he would veto it.

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Speaker 2: Well, Nathan, there is plenty of reaction to the vice

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Speaker 2: presidential debate, and here's a Bloomberg Politics contributors Genie Zeno

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Speaker 2: and Rick Davis right after the debate.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know if there were winners and losers.

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Speaker 3: I think it's one of them sort of comported themselves

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Speaker 3: in a way that wasn't, you know, particularly special, but

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Speaker 10: I think from a purely debating perspective, I think you

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Speaker 10: have to give it to jd Vance. I don't think

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Speaker 10: that's much of a surprise.

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Speaker 1: He is a season debater.

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Speaker 10: I think what he did that through Tim waltz Off

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Speaker 1: He was friendly, he.

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Speaker 10: Was affable, he was talking about being bipartisan, all of

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Speaker 2: And that's Bloomberg Politics contributors Jeannie Zeno and Rick Davis

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Speaker 2: on a special debate edition of Bloomberg Balance of Power

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Speaker 2: with Joe Matthew and Kaylee Lodge.

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Speaker 1: Here.

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Speaker 2: More of their analysis on the Balance of Power podcast

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Speaker 2: available wherever you download.

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Speaker 3: Well, Karen, it is day two of the strike that

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Speaker 3: has shut down thirty six ports in the United States.

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Speaker 3: Bloomberg's John Tucker is here with the latest. So, John,

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Speaker 3: are we seeing any signs of progress?

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Speaker 11: Few? If any. Nathan President Biden met with his chief

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Speaker 11: of staff and other senior ags yesterday evening to discuss

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Speaker 11: the strike and reiterated his desire for his team to continue,

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Speaker 11: urging the carriers to present a strong offer to the

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Speaker 11: long shoreman Acting Labor Secretary Julie Sue she could prove

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Speaker 11: the instrumental she helped to broker a deal between West

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Speaker 11: Coast doc workers and their employers last summer. The ISLA

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Speaker 11: President Harold Daggett told longshormant of the picking lines to

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Speaker 11: prepare to stay off the job for as long as

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Speaker 11: it takes to get a deal for even higher pay

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Speaker 11: and protections from automation, which actually could prove to be

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Speaker 11: the bigger obstacle of Bloomberg Economics estimates a hit to

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Speaker 11: GDP of as much as three billion dollars per day

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Speaker 11: from foregone spending at production. A week long strike could

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Speaker 11: knock three tenths of a percentage point off annualized GDP

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Speaker 11: In New York. I'm John Tucker, Bloomberg Radio.

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Speaker 1: All right, John, thank you.

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Speaker 4: Well.

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Speaker 2: Let's turn to the markets now, and futures are lower

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Speaker 2: again following the escalation of fighting in the Middle East.

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Speaker 2: As for company news, shares in Nike, they're down more

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Speaker 2: than five percent this morning. The company has withdrawn its

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Speaker 2: guidance after sales missed estimates, and we get the numbers

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Speaker 2: from Bloomberg's Charlie Pillett.

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Speaker 12: It underscores the ch challenge that incoming CEO Elliot Hill,

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Speaker 12: During the company's call with analysts, chief financial officer Matt

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Speaker 12: Friend said the move was due to the upcoming leadership transition.

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Speaker 12: Before the call, Nike reported revenue in the fiscal first

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Speaker 12: quarter that dropped ten percent to eleven point five to

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Speaker 12: nine billion dollars, falling short of the average analyst estimate.

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Speaker 12: The declines were especially sharp in North America and the

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Speaker 12: Converse brand also persisted as a problem area in New

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Speaker 12: York Charlie Pellett Bloomberg.

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Speaker 3: Radio, all Right, Charlie, thank you. And in Asia, Chinese

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Speaker 3: shares listed in Hong Kong have jumped the most in

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Speaker 3: almost two years as traders returned from a public holiday.

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Speaker 3: The Hangsang China Enterprises Index climbed by more than eight percent.

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Speaker 3: The extended rally comes off the back of increased optimism

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Speaker 3: around China's economy. Authorities unveiled a range of stimulus measures

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Speaker 1: Hey, it's time now.

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Speaker 2: For look at some of the other stories making news

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Speaker 2: in New York and around the world, And for that

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Speaker 2: We're joined by Bloomberg's Michael Barr.

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Speaker 1: Michael, Good morning, Good morning Karen.

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Speaker 6: Today, President Biden will surveyed the devastation in the southeast

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Speaker 6: caused by Hurricane Helene. Biden says it's urgent to get

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Speaker 6: a federal response to the victims of the storm. He

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Speaker 6: also talked about the administration's preparation ahead of Helene.

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Speaker 3: We had over one thousand federal personnel, including search and

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Speaker 6: It hit, Biden spoke at an interagency briefing dedicated to

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Speaker 6: the federal government's response to Hurricane Helene. More than one

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Speaker 6: hundred and sixty people were killed in the storm, and

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Speaker 6: hundreds are still unaccounted for. North Carolina Governor Roy Cooper.

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Speaker 13: continuing to work to rescue people. We know that there

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Speaker 6: Governor Cooper says, Rescue teams trying to reach those washed

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Speaker 6: out by the catastrophic flooding. The attorney representing Sean Didty

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Speaker 6: Combs categorically denies claims that his clients sexually assaulted anyone.

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Speaker 6: This after a new lawsuit filed against the hip hop

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Speaker 6: Pioneer on behalf of more than one hundred alleged victims.

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Speaker 6: They're suing Combs, claiming they are victims of the Hip

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Speaker 6: Attorney for the alleged victims Tony Busby, we.

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Speaker 14: Now represent one hundred and twenty individuals who intend to

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Speaker 14: bring civil claims in civil court against Sean Ditty Combs,

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Speaker 14: as well as claims against many other individuals and entities.

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Speaker 6: Combs is in jail after a New York judge denied

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Speaker 6: the Hip Hop Mogul's requests for bail last month on

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Speaker 6: charges of sexual assault and racketeering. The change of plea

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Speaker 6: hearing for the former doctor charged in actor Matthew Perry's

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Speaker 6: distribute ketamine. Perry suffered from depression, and his doctors convinced

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Speaker 6: And John Amos, who starred as the family patriarch on

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Speaker 6: the hit nineteen seventy sitcom, Good Times has died. Amos

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Speaker 6: nineteen seventy seven mini series Roots. John Amos was eighty

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Speaker 6: four Global News, twenty four hours a day and whenever

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Speaker 6: you want it with the Bloomberg News. Now, I'm Michael Barr,

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Speaker 6: and this is Bloomberg Karen.

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Speaker 1: All right, Michael Barr, thank you.

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Speaker 2: Time now for the Bloomberry Sports Update, brought to you

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Speaker 2: by try Stage. Howdy, here's John stash Hour, John, good morning.

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Speaker 6: Good morning.

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Speaker 15: During all season, the Mets have not made things easy

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Speaker 15: for themselves. Began zero and five or later eleven under

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Speaker 15: five hundred and so often when they won, they did

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Speaker 15: it and come from behind fashion happened in that epic

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Speaker 15: playoff clinching win in Atlanta and the next night in

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Speaker 15: mil One. Twice the Brewers went ahead. Both times, the

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Speaker 15: Mets followed with runs three in the second inning and

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Speaker 15: even bigger uprising in the fifth and a swinging a.

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Speaker 12: Bouncer right side.

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Speaker 16: It's a base hit. One run is in for New York.

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Speaker 16: Here comes Viento's from second. The throw goes to third,

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Speaker 16: and the Mets have scored five runs in the fifth.

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Speaker 16: They now lead the Brewers eight to four, and this

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Speaker 16: entire rally has happened with.

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Speaker 1: Two outs ESPN the call.

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Speaker 15: Not a single hit by either team after that, Mets one,

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Speaker 15: eight to four. Another win tonight gives in their first

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Speaker 15: series victories in twenty fifteen and San Diego Fernando Tatis

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Speaker 15: Junior two run over first inning and Andres went on

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Speaker 15: to shut out Atlanta four to nothing. In the American League,

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Speaker 15: the road teams won Detroit red hot down the stretch

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Speaker 15: with a likely Cy Young Winna Drink Scooble dominating. The

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Speaker 15: for the Astros, they had won ten consecutive series openers.

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Speaker 15: Kansas City won one nothing at Baltimore. That's the Orioles

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Speaker 15: ninth postseason los in a row. All four games twos

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Speaker 15: at Barkley. Is another one for the Liberty. They held

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Speaker 3: Good morning, I'm Nathan Hager. Tensions in the Middle East

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Speaker 3: running higher than ever after Iran's barrage of ballistic missile

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Speaker 6: The regime in Iran does not.

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Speaker 3: For the very latest with us from Tel Aviv is

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Speaker 3: Bloomberg News Israel Bureau chief Ethan Bronner Ethan, good morning.

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Speaker 3: First off, do we have a sense of the impact

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Speaker 17: The attack was much bigger, Nathan, And indeed the impact

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Speaker 17: Looking at a fairly severe expectation. I think that this

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Speaker 3: So we don't see any sign that the movement of

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Speaker 17: I mean, when you say to Turrent, the implication is

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Speaker 17: Sure, I mean the part is that you're thinking about,

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Speaker 17: Look, I don't think that the States are going to

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Speaker 4: Thank you. It's clearly very elevated.

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Speaker 4: To be different in terms of escalation.

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Speaker 19: So last night's attack had a modest impact on oil prices,

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Speaker 5: Well, I don't think they convinced anybody that already wasn't convinced.

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Speaker 5: This situation in the Middle East is preciously close to

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Speaker 3: We did see a wide range of topics discussed in

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Speaker 5: Well, fundamentally, you know, for markets, what markets heard is

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Speaker 18: I wrote before the debate that I didn't want to

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Speaker 5: Look from a vice presidential the candidate perspective, a forgettable

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Speaker 5: things like January the sixth, and you know, the accusation

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Speaker 5: of things and making things worse. But people have made

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Speaker 5: their minds up about Trump regardless of what Vance had

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Speaker 5: to say. And you know, so you know, the fact

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Speaker 5: that both that this debate will be forgotten is a

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Speaker 5: good thing for both tickets, frankly, because it refocuses on

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Speaker 3: Well, perhaps one thing that former President Trump might want

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Speaker 3: voters to remember in the moments after the debate, Tina,

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Speaker 3: is his promise now that he would vetail a federal

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Speaker 3: abortion ban if it came to his desk. Do you

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Speaker 3: see that moving the needle on this issue that Democrats

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Speaker 3: have really tried to exploit. Only have about a minute left.

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Speaker 18: Well, that was a dramatic change in stance from President Trump,

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Speaker 18: and to me, it reflects that, you know, the data

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Speaker 18: with female voters, and there is a dramatic gender gap

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Speaker 4: It is close to twenty percentage points.

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Speaker 18: But I do think this announcement is too late and

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Speaker 18: most people have settled into their positions. I don't think

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Speaker 18: it will bring female voters to Trump, but maybe it

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Speaker 18: will ease the minds of those who are concerned most

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Speaker 18: about reproductive rights should he become president. Having said that

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Speaker 18: he's a very malleable candidate when it comes to his positions.

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