WEBVTT - Ep. 1052: Foundations - The Evolution of Trail Cameras and How Hunters Still Use Them Wrong

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the Wired to Hunt Foundations podcast, your guide

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<v Speaker 1>to the fundamentals of better deer hunting, presented by first Light,

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<v Speaker 1>creating proven versatile hunting apparel for the stand, saddle or blind.

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<v Speaker 1>First Light, Go Farther, Stay Longer, and now your host

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<v Speaker 1>Tony Peterson.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, everyone, welcome to the Wired to Hunt Foundations podcast,

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<v Speaker 2>which is brought to you by First Light. I'm your host,

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<v Speaker 2>Tony Peterson, and today's episode is a look back on

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<v Speaker 2>what trail cameras used to be, and I'll look at

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<v Speaker 2>what they are now and how you can really use

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<v Speaker 2>them to figure out deer and become a better hunter.

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<v Speaker 2>The forward march of technology never ends for us, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's easy to look at it like it's a negative,

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<v Speaker 2>and it sure can be. But it's also nice to

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<v Speaker 2>turn on the lights of an air conditioned house and

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<v Speaker 2>sit down to stream content that tickles your specific fancy.

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<v Speaker 2>It's also nice to know that if you catch the flu,

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<v Speaker 2>you can take some over the counter medicine and not

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<v Speaker 2>from it, you know, like our ancestors did. Technology can

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<v Speaker 2>be good for us, and this goes for stuff we

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<v Speaker 2>use while trying to shoot rabbits with antlers, like trail cameras.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's hard to find a better example of

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<v Speaker 2>the evolution of technology in the hunting space than trail cameras,

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<v Speaker 2>which is what I'm going to talk about right now.

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<v Speaker 2>When I think about my childhood, which happened way back

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<v Speaker 2>in the nineteen eighties, I think about sitting down to

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<v Speaker 2>watch Saturday morning cartoons and microwaving a corn dog for breakfast,

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<v Speaker 2>which I probably washed down with a glass of kool aid.

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<v Speaker 2>I think about the time when my neighborhood buddies and

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<v Speaker 2>I walked into the Gully, which was a wooded ravine

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<v Speaker 2>in town that if you followed it far enough, would

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<v Speaker 2>take you to a culvert beneath Highway fifty two, and

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<v Speaker 2>if you kept going, would eventually lead to Mill Creek,

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<v Speaker 2>or as we called it, the Creek. We also had

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<v Speaker 2>the river, which was the Root River. Well. In this

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<v Speaker 2>particular adventure, we met up with a stray dog that

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<v Speaker 2>hung out with us, and we went to the creek

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<v Speaker 2>to just around. I don't remember what we did exactly,

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<v Speaker 2>but I remember it wasn't all that warm, and I

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<v Speaker 2>remember going under a barbere a fence that I poked

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<v Speaker 2>my arm with pretty good. I remember thinking that my

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<v Speaker 2>mom would kill me if she knew that I was

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<v Speaker 2>hanging out with a random dog and that I had

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<v Speaker 2>bloodied myself up on a barbere fence. Well, that part

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<v Speaker 2>of the creek was probably about two or three miles

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<v Speaker 2>from my house. Now, as you can imagine, my parents

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<v Speaker 2>had no idea me and my buddies were there, and

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<v Speaker 2>they wouldn't have had a good idea of where to

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<v Speaker 2>start looking for me, even if they had wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>find me. And I know it's cliched, and I don't

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<v Speaker 2>want to get into it, but when I look at

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<v Speaker 2>my childhood and then the childhood of my kids, they

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<v Speaker 2>couldn't be further apart. I don't know if that's good

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<v Speaker 2>or bad. It's just reality and will probably always be

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<v Speaker 2>so when it comes to parents and their kids. That

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<v Speaker 2>time of my life was part Lord of the Flies,

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<v Speaker 2>part total freedom, and part torture because we were left

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<v Speaker 2>to our own devices in kids or assholes, or at

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<v Speaker 2>least they were then. And I'd guess if you sat

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<v Speaker 2>down with some elementary school teachers today, they'd say that

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<v Speaker 2>hasn't entirely gone away. While I was devouring process food

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<v Speaker 2>and avoiding even the light at supervision from adults. Other

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<v Speaker 2>things were happening things in the hunting world, one of

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<v Speaker 2>which was the advent of the first commercial trail camera

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<v Speaker 2>from a company called trail Master. This new product category

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<v Speaker 2>didn't come out of thin air. In the late seventies

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<v Speaker 2>and early eighties, some hunters, probably hunters who were engineers

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<v Speaker 2>by trade, started building tripware cameras that consisted of a

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<v Speaker 2>string that you'd tie across the deer trail that activated

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<v Speaker 2>a thirty five millimeter camera when it was tripped. These systems,

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<v Speaker 2>as you can probably guess, weren't the most waterproof or

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<v Speaker 2>immune to elements. They were heavy, they're prone to false triggers,

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<v Speaker 2>and they were expensive. They didn't do much for hunting

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<v Speaker 2>success overall, but they did prove the concept that remote

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<v Speaker 2>wildlife photography was possible. Those kinds of ideas and those

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<v Speaker 2>kinds of experiments generally crossed the radar of enough folks

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<v Speaker 2>until one of them sees the commercial possibility and sets

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<v Speaker 2>out to do something about it. And that's what trail

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<v Speaker 2>Master did with their first models that were built in

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<v Speaker 2>big metal housings, you know, fitted with actual real thirty

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<v Speaker 2>five millimeters cameras, and you know that utilized a huge

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<v Speaker 2>battery pack and had a mechanical shutter activation. They retailed

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<v Speaker 2>for anywhere from four hundred and fifty to about seven

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<v Speaker 2>hundred bucks, which when you adjusted for inflation today, that's

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<v Speaker 2>out to around eleven hundred to seventeen hundred buckaroos. That's

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<v Speaker 2>no small investment for something that really didn't work very well,

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<v Speaker 2>but was the loan product in a whole new category.

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<v Speaker 2>The drawbacks of those cameras and the next several models

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<v Speaker 2>to hit the market were many, including the fact that

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<v Speaker 2>they were only good for daytime photos. But the main

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<v Speaker 2>drawback was that with actual film, you only had either

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<v Speaker 2>twenty four or thirty six chances to get your pictures.

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<v Speaker 2>That's all roll of film could hold, and if you

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<v Speaker 2>had grass blowing in the breeze in front of your camera,

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<v Speaker 2>you might fill that sucker up in an afternoon. Now today,

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<v Speaker 2>a whole bunch of false triggers is an annoyance, but

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<v Speaker 2>you can solve for it pretty quickly, and it wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>keep you from also getting pictures of d year they

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<v Speaker 2>walked by. But back then, once that role was full,

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<v Speaker 2>you had to go into the woods to retrieve it,

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<v Speaker 2>then take it into a store to actually have your

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<v Speaker 2>film processed. It might have taken a couple of days

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<v Speaker 2>or longer, and then you got a paper packet with

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<v Speaker 2>your printed pictures in it, and you'd flip through them

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<v Speaker 2>eagerly to realize that you didn't get a single picture

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<v Speaker 2>of a deer. Plus you had to pay for the

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<v Speaker 2>film development with every single role. Now fast forward to

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<v Speaker 2>the mid nineties, by time when a lot of us

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<v Speaker 2>could be found dying in a field somewhere from alcohol

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<v Speaker 2>poisoning on a random Friday or Saturday night, and Camtracker

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<v Speaker 2>came out with the next wave of trail cameras, which

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<v Speaker 2>retailed for about three hundred to five hundred bucks. These

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<v Speaker 2>were still built with thirty five millimeter cameras inside of them,

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<v Speaker 2>but they had pr detection, flash photography, and could handle

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<v Speaker 2>weather better. They also offered some improved battery life, but

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<v Speaker 2>they still relied on film, which was by far the

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<v Speaker 2>worst part of the whole deal. It was expensive and

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<v Speaker 2>so limiting. It wouldn't be until the early two thousands

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<v Speaker 2>that multiple companies would develop the first wave of digital cameras.

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<v Speaker 2>These cameras ditched the thirty five millimeter headache and functioned

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<v Speaker 2>off of memory card storage. This meant that you could

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<v Speaker 2>now capture hundreds and eventually thousands of photos and wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>have to wait for days to see what you had captured.

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<v Speaker 2>This was a huge leap in the evolution of trail

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<v Speaker 2>cameras and allowed for all kinds of advancements, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>advancements like multiple photos per triggering, event sensitivity adjustment, LCD

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<v Speaker 2>viewing screens that were just built right in, and a

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<v Speaker 2>host to other benefits. But they still used white flash though,

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<v Speaker 2>which spooked the crap out of the deer, as you

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<v Speaker 2>can imagine. But that wasn't meant to be a forever thing,

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<v Speaker 2>and soon infrared led lights allowed cameras to capture nighttime

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<v Speaker 2>movement without blowing out every deer that walked by. Along

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<v Speaker 2>the way, better battery life became standard, temperature and moonface

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<v Speaker 2>stamps became standard, higher megapixel sensors that allowed for better

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<v Speaker 2>resolution became standard, and the price started to come down

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<v Speaker 2>into one hundred and fifty to three hundred dollars range

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<v Speaker 2>from about twenty ten on. Camera manufacturers figured out how

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<v Speaker 2>to include video options, audio, faster trigger speeds, better performance

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<v Speaker 2>in low light, and a bunch of other valuable stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Then along came sell cameras, which have been the biggest

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<v Speaker 2>leap in technology, probably since the jump from thirty five

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<v Speaker 2>millimeter to digital. And at first these cameras were not cheap.

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<v Speaker 2>They went for about four hundred to six hundred bucks

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<v Speaker 2>a pop, but the benefit was undeniable. Not having to

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<v Speaker 2>go into the woods to figure out who walked through

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<v Speaker 2>all your spots absolutely changed the whole game, and that

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<v Speaker 2>category of cameras has come to dominate the market. This

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<v Speaker 2>is due to obvious reasons, but one fun fact I

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<v Speaker 2>found was that the first cameras to hit the market

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<v Speaker 2>took on average about three to five seconds from triggering

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<v Speaker 2>event to taking an actual picture. As soon as I

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<v Speaker 2>read that, I remembered how often we used to get

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<v Speaker 2>pictures of deerbuts most cameras will go from trigger to

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<v Speaker 2>capture in about a fifth of a second. That is

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<v Speaker 2>a huge advancement and one that speaks to the widespread

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<v Speaker 2>adoption of the latest and greatest. Now, don't get me wrong,

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<v Speaker 2>you can still buy dumb cameras that use SD cards,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's getting harder by the year. It's getting harder

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<v Speaker 2>by the year to find any hunters who don't use

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<v Speaker 2>cameras at all as well. Even the traditional deer camp

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<v Speaker 2>rifle hunter, who is the epitome of the weekend warrior,

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<v Speaker 2>uses sell cameras. Why wouldn't they. It's fun to get

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<v Speaker 2>pictures of deer, to build a little stoke before the opener,

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<v Speaker 2>and to just get a glimpse into the world of

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<v Speaker 2>white tails without having to be there with them, which

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<v Speaker 2>almost always affects what they do to some extent. But

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<v Speaker 2>trail cameras are tools, and we all know that tools

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<v Speaker 2>can be used wrong, or at least not to their

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<v Speaker 2>full potential. And even saying that, I realize that it's

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<v Speaker 2>hard to make the argument that most people use their

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<v Speaker 2>cameras wrong if the cameras are doing what they're supposed to,

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<v Speaker 2>which is my first point that I want to make.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you want to learn with your cameras? I

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<v Speaker 2>know I talk about this all the time, but it's

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<v Speaker 2>so important. I don't think we acknowledge this enough because

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<v Speaker 2>it feels like putting a few cameras out and getting

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<v Speaker 2>pictures is just the goal, and it's a very achievable

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<v Speaker 2>goal for pretty much all of us. If that's as

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<v Speaker 2>far as you want to take it, great, But there's

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<v Speaker 2>a lot more that can be done. I can look

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<v Speaker 2>at the desk in my office and see a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of new edge fours from Moultrie that I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>put in the woods, And I can run down the

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<v Speaker 2>list of things that these cameras can do, which is

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<v Speaker 2>a lot. I won't utilize them to their full potential,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure, but what I can do with them is

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<v Speaker 2>more than just get some photos of deer. In fact,

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<v Speaker 2>I pretty much run all of my cameras on video mode.

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<v Speaker 2>Now I learn more from a twenty second clip of

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<v Speaker 2>a buck working a scrape than I do have an

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<v Speaker 2>image of a buck on a scrape. It's honestly that

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<v Speaker 2>simple in some ways, and I'll explain it simply. When

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<v Speaker 2>I started running cameras on video mode on scrapes, I

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<v Speaker 2>realized that every single deer that visited them uses the

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<v Speaker 2>licking branch. All of the bucks, and all of the

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<v Speaker 2>does all of them, but most of them didn't pop

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<v Speaker 2>up the soil and take a leak in it. Some did,

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<v Speaker 2>but many didn't, but all of them use the licking branch.

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<v Speaker 2>So if I'm out hunting and I find a scrape

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<v Speaker 2>but it doesn't have a clear licking branch on it.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to pass. Simple stuff like that can be

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<v Speaker 2>learned through trail camera usage and it will help you

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<v Speaker 2>hunt better. Years ago I hunted blacktails in California with

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<v Speaker 2>a fellow who ran a lot of trail cameras, and

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<v Speaker 2>in the frame of every one he'd hang a small

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<v Speaker 2>strip of flagging tape so that it was clearly visible.

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<v Speaker 2>His goal was to not only get images of blacktails

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<v Speaker 2>and start to pattern them, but to pin down exactly

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<v Speaker 2>what win the deer used to go through a spot,

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<v Speaker 2>which is about as actionable of intel as you're going

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<v Speaker 2>to get. Again, it's great to get picks or videos

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<v Speaker 2>of a buck going by, but knowing that he only

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<v Speaker 2>shows up when the wind is out of the west

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<v Speaker 2>is information on steroids. Now you have a huge piece

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<v Speaker 2>of the puzzle that can take you from digital scouting

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<v Speaker 2>to actually putting together a plan to hunt him when

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<v Speaker 2>he's most likely to show up. This is one of

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<v Speaker 2>my favorite things about trail cameras. Honestly, not only do

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<v Speaker 2>they show me how to better hunt a spot given

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<v Speaker 2>how frequently deer come through and what they do to

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<v Speaker 2>get there and leave, but also how they check my work.

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<v Speaker 2>What I mean by that is that Some of my

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<v Speaker 2>most active cameras have been in spots that I just

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<v Speaker 2>couldn't seem to hunt correctly. This happened last year in Nebraska,

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<v Speaker 2>and while I really don't know what we were doing

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<v Speaker 2>wrong on this amazing pinch point I found, I know

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<v Speaker 2>that we were definitely doing something wrong. The camera there

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<v Speaker 2>showed me tons of movement. I had an access plan

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<v Speaker 2>and a blind setup really brushed in, but no matter

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<v Speaker 2>what we did, we couldn't see deer when we hunted.

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<v Speaker 2>It had something wrong, and I don't know what it is,

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<v Speaker 2>but I know that it's real. I didn't get a

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<v Speaker 2>chance to try to reverse engineer that situation, but the

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<v Speaker 2>first thing I would have done is leave that camera

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<v Speaker 2>where it was and start to back out of that

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<v Speaker 2>spot to hunt deer. Going to it from a distance,

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<v Speaker 2>being one hundred yards away and not right on the

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<v Speaker 2>pinch point means that some of the deer, if they

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<v Speaker 2>did show up, you know we're going to be out

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<v Speaker 2>of play. But at least I'd learn whether my presence

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<v Speaker 2>right there was the problem. The other option would have

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<v Speaker 2>been to approach my original setup from the opposite direction,

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<v Speaker 2>which I thought would kill the action. But since I

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<v Speaker 2>killed the action with my best plan. Maybe it was

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<v Speaker 2>nothing more than me reading the whole scene wrong. Either way,

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<v Speaker 2>that camera showed me that deer loved that spot, but

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<v Speaker 2>not when a hunter was there. I don't know how

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<v Speaker 2>to get more valuable info than that out of any

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<v Speaker 2>other technology that's legal in the woods. That's a huge deal,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's somewhat applicable to most hunters in their situations.

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<v Speaker 2>I would guess attention to not only what your cameras

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<v Speaker 2>show you with the deer when you're not there, but

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<v Speaker 2>for sure what the deer do when you are there.

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<v Speaker 2>There will be a difference almost always. How severe that

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<v Speaker 2>difference is matters a lot. You can also use cameras

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<v Speaker 2>to learn where the deer go when they don't do

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<v Speaker 2>what you expect them to. I think this is one

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<v Speaker 2>of the most underrated use cases for trail cameras. But

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<v Speaker 2>think about this. You put a camera in your food

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<v Speaker 2>plot or on a field edge, and then you hunt

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<v Speaker 2>the biggest buck on the block and he doesn't show,

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<v Speaker 2>or he does but you don't kill him. Eventually that

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<v Speaker 2>deer is not going to show at all, and your

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<v Speaker 2>pictures show he's coming in at midnight instead, you know

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<v Speaker 2>of a half hour before dark. Is he truly nocturnal

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<v Speaker 2>or is he just avoiding the hunting pressure in that

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<v Speaker 2>spot you know, where it's been most concentrated. My experience

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<v Speaker 2>with a lot of deer over a long timeline is

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<v Speaker 2>that they mostly aren't nocturnal, but they are very good

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<v Speaker 2>at not going to the places we often hunt. So

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<v Speaker 2>you can use a camera in this situation to confirm

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<v Speaker 2>your suspicions. You know that he's nocturnal, you know, because

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<v Speaker 2>you're not actually looking for him other than on that spot.

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<v Speaker 2>Or you can use them to get into the cover

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<v Speaker 2>and see if he's actually just moving where he feels safer.

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<v Speaker 2>This leads to another thing that a lot of hunters

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<v Speaker 2>do with camera intel that hurts them, which I'll frame

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<v Speaker 2>up as simply as possible. If I go hang and

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<v Speaker 2>bang hunt somewhere, private, public, whatever, and I see a

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<v Speaker 2>buck doing something, I will almost always try to get

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<v Speaker 2>on that movement as soon as I can, usually the

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<v Speaker 2>next day. And the reason is simple. If a buck

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<v Speaker 2>walks along a ridge today, I munching on acorns, my

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<v Speaker 2>highest odds of catching him do that again, or another

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<v Speaker 2>buck doing that same thing are as soon as I

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<v Speaker 2>can possibly set up for it, but with a camera

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<v Speaker 2>we often don't trust one off intel a whole lot.

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<v Speaker 2>We get picks of a buck moving through a spot

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<v Speaker 2>shooting hours, and we wait to see if he'll do

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<v Speaker 2>it consistently. This is often the ca of death in

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<v Speaker 2>all parts of the seasons that aren't the rut. It

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<v Speaker 2>might be due to a cold front that's going to pass,

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<v Speaker 2>or a tree dropping the best acorn, some er, or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>But a deer that shows you he's killable right now

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<v Speaker 2>is a deer that won't probably be more killable in

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<v Speaker 2>five days, and will often be less likely to make

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<v Speaker 2>those same movements In person observation makes this believable, but

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<v Speaker 2>trail cameras convince us we need to wait for a

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<v Speaker 2>bigger pattern to emerge for we try to hunt around it.

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<v Speaker 2>But a lot of what deer do they do in

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<v Speaker 2>short windows of activity and then they switch. This is

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<v Speaker 2>rarely talked about, but I kind of believe it to

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<v Speaker 2>be true. Most prey animals have an innate sense of

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<v Speaker 2>not making themselves overly predictable. Look, I know there are

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<v Speaker 2>plenty of exceptions to this, but if you hunt where

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<v Speaker 2>there is some pressure from other hunters or from four

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<v Speaker 2>legged predators. Deer aren't guaranteed to follow the same routine

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<v Speaker 2>for weeks on end. If they show you something, now,

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<v Speaker 2>try to use it. Trail cameras can give you that

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<v Speaker 2>and a hell of a lot more. Consider that as

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<v Speaker 2>you get into your scouting season and start getting those

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<v Speaker 2>fun little dopeamine hits. When your camera sends an alert

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<v Speaker 2>that you have new images that are ready to be viewed,

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<v Speaker 2>do that and come back next week because I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to talk about deer populations and how they fluctuate and

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<v Speaker 2>why understanding what that means in your world can help

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<v Speaker 2>you build a better plan to kill a buck, no

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<v Speaker 2>matter whether you hunt in a place with one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>deer per square mile or ten. That's it for this week.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Tony Peterson. This has been the Wired to Hunt

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