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Speaker 1: My grandma and your grandma was sitting by the fire.

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Speaker 1: My grandma told your grandma, I'm gonna say funny, you're

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Speaker 1: talking about Hina. I like, go on day Jagomo jagmo,

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Speaker 1: do culture stuff calling what's happening? Bow? Let me think?

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Speaker 1: Is this another episode of Plassical. It's come to me

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Speaker 1: it is another episode. Wow, Well then if that's true,

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Speaker 1: I'm gagged. I'm so excited you guys. First of all,

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Speaker 1: this is the first episode where that we're back after

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Speaker 1: our live show. And that was fun. That was so fun,

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Speaker 1: and thank you guys, so much for coming. Yeah, a

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Speaker 1: million people showed up, one million, I think, Um, I

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Speaker 1: think trumps. Yeah, I think Sean Spicer put out a statement.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, he actually he had put out a statement

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Speaker 1: and said that it didn't happen. And then his cupid's

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Speaker 1: bow just fucking just tore in half and his face

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Speaker 1: just split. Um, oh my god. That was so fun.

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Speaker 1: It was so great and it definitely did happen. And

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Speaker 1: you guys can if you haven't, check out the UM

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Speaker 1: episodes of the live show and we have today. I

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Speaker 1: mean I referred to him as our personal hero. Um.

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Speaker 1: I think that's accurate. Um. I was thinking today and

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Speaker 1: he's gonna hate this. I think, like, I'm like, this

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Speaker 1: is solely when I never say ship like this, but

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Speaker 1: I'm like, oh God, like pinch me. Like he's like

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Speaker 1: like like he's a friend. Well, it's like when you

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Speaker 1: see someone truly brilliant performance, like, you know, you get

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Speaker 1: a little baby. Okay, let's look a little a little

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Speaker 1: you get a little bit for him. Um, let's let's

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Speaker 1: talk about the credits. You know him from Who Lose

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Speaker 1: Difficult People. You know FX, and you know him from

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Speaker 1: Mozart in the Jungle and you know him from his

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Speaker 1: upcoming Joe's Pub show June fourteen. It's called help I'm stuck.

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Speaker 1: It sounds wonderful. Run don't walk, guys, please welcome and

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Speaker 1: you know what, you open the door wide open immediately

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Speaker 1: he ding dong, run up, run down, the clutch the banisters,

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Speaker 1: clutch the banisters, also sucking iconic. I don't think so much.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you. I decided if I was gonna

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Speaker 1: you either go you either go um frivolous or you

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Speaker 1: go real. And if you're gonna go real, better go real.

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Speaker 1: I think I'm going to butcher this, but this is

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Speaker 1: just one of the best setups and and punchlines executions. Um,

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Speaker 1: you gave me ship for playing with you said I

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Speaker 1: was too old to play with Barbie dolls. He's sorry,

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry. This is for people who didn't listen. Cole,

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Speaker 1: I don't think so honey. His mom wanting a relationship

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Speaker 1: she said that he was too old to play with barbies,

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Speaker 1: and then Cole says, We'll check your back for a

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Speaker 1: Mattel label bit because I've outgrown you so good. Thank you,

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Speaker 1: I mean, come on, thank you. How are you? I'm okay, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's your stock answer. I've asked you this a lot

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Speaker 1: and it's always I'm okay, yeah it is. It is.

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Speaker 1: What's going on? Well, you know the rain, the rain,

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Speaker 1: it's a little rain in New York. And I was

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Speaker 1: talking to a friend of ours, Aaron Jackson, yes, about

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Speaker 1: how it's so appropriate to cancel and snow. But you

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Speaker 1: kind of need to cancel more so for rain because

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Speaker 1: you can you can dust snowflake sauce or I find

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Speaker 1: it is when the rain is called is falling down?

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Speaker 1: Now are you saying you were very close to canceling

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Speaker 1: on us, because no. The reason I brought it up

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Speaker 1: and so I felt I felt bad. We're gonna We're

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Speaker 1: gonna be Aaron later on tonight. We're gonna go see

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Speaker 1: Power Rangers. Um, and we extended invitation to you. But

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Speaker 1: I didn't realize so Cole came in here and he

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be it's gonna stunt everyone. This is great.

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Speaker 1: And also I didn't realize it was the date. Look.

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Speaker 1: She's like, I have an hour to get somewhere. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I want to say somewhere. It's it's not the right word,

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Speaker 1: We're just gonna pitch the materials. And then there's a

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Speaker 1: beautiful cordu ry black collar color. And also what a

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Speaker 1: wearing this color. Speaking of bold colors, Um Cole, I'm

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Speaker 1: wearing a green flannel. Yes, that's like a great creek.

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Speaker 1: I'm wearing green. Cole has been documenting his um new

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Speaker 1: it's so resplendently you what is it described? Described personality? Um?

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Speaker 1: Someone called it a dollhouse um, and and others have

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Speaker 1: voiced similar and you and I've agreed. Friend of the

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Speaker 1: show Aaron Jackson did tell me personally that he went

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Speaker 1: over and, Um, you bought like a ceramic cake. It

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Speaker 1: all these props? Let me tell you they are all. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: me tell you, beautiful, beautiful, but I'm also trash. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: What a power couple now, Cole Um, I think things

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Speaker 1: are going good in the apartment. This is a new

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Speaker 1: I had roommates and Um one of them was from

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Speaker 1: New Zealand. UM he was a gay Christian gamer who

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Speaker 1: I'm one of those people. If I hear my roommate

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Speaker 1: too much. I'm so sorry. Well, look you can't. You

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Speaker 1: right about? Yeah, I don't know what kind of games,

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Speaker 1: know you're not. You guys aren't missing much. Yeah, do

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Speaker 1: this nostalgia for watching other people play video games, which

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Speaker 1: have forgotten. And the thing is the American children, the

421
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Speaker 1: American children, they need not forget because she's very present.

422
00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:17,199
Speaker 1: I mean, I I just wish that more kids had

423
00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:19,120
Speaker 1: gone to see Into the Woods because it was so

424
00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:24,320
Speaker 1: fucking good. I thought that with it, my wish um

425
00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:26,879
Speaker 1: would be for people for the kids to remember Tracy Ellman,

426
00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:29,719
Speaker 1: she's killing it on her sketch shows too. An HBO

427
00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:33,680
Speaker 1: and HBO is really good to her. Um they are

428
00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:37,199
Speaker 1: the I will say, they do treat her well. She's

429
00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:39,280
Speaker 1: always got a fucking show. She had like a little

430
00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:41,120
Speaker 1: bit part that was really funny Young Girls a couple

431
00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:42,760
Speaker 1: of weeks. That's right, it was fun. It was too short,

432
00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:45,239
Speaker 1: but it was way too short. I was like, if

433
00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:48,080
Speaker 1: you're going to give Matthew resent entire episode, let's forge

434
00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:53,240
Speaker 1: write a whole thing for Tracy ellmant please, okay, so glassnaree.

435
00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:56,600
Speaker 1: Then it was fine. It just good. Talks to us

436
00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:59,040
Speaker 1: about Sally Field. Did she give you full drag? She

437
00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:05,680
Speaker 1: gave you screen actress on the stage, which was like good,

438
00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:09,680
Speaker 1: but just like you you just note you realize that, like, oh,

439
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:13,359
Speaker 1: stage acting is very different, is very different, and I

440
00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:15,840
Speaker 1: kind of wish I was watching a stage. She was

441
00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:19,840
Speaker 1: great and like, just did it right. Yeah, I would

442
00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:22,960
Speaker 1: pay good money to the children. Have forgotten Cherry, Cherry,

443
00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:25,000
Speaker 1: you know why, because the children never really got to

444
00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:27,440
Speaker 1: know Cherry. I think we need to we need to

445
00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:31,320
Speaker 1: be celebrating our dikes more. So let's let's please call

446
00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:33,919
Speaker 1: to the stage Cherry Jones, Let's please call to the stage,

447
00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:38,000
Speaker 1: Holland Taylor, Let's call to the stage. Sapolsi's ex girlfriend.

448
00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:42,280
Speaker 1: Imagine that love triangle. I'm not sure it was ever trying. Honestly,

449
00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:44,239
Speaker 1: I want to put him in a movie together, all

450
00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:47,320
Speaker 1: three of them, and watch them burn it up. Put

451
00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:50,000
Speaker 1: those women in the nineteen fifties drama directed by Todd

452
00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:54,040
Speaker 1: Haynes and let Me fucking Die watching. Yes, throw Julianne

453
00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:57,720
Speaker 1: Moore in there too, shine off. I mean, or just

454
00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:03,639
Speaker 1: do a biopic of their their trips. Ryan Murphy Sarah

455
00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:08,320
Speaker 1: Paulson cold, honestly, how meta? And she and she could

456
00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:12,120
Speaker 1: play Cherry if they all if we did a Ryan

457
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:16,280
Speaker 1: Murphy like the American Horror Story, Hatthy Bates would play

458
00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:19,800
Speaker 1: Cherry Joan thank you, Sarah Paulson would play Holland Taylor. Yeah,

459
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:25,080
Speaker 1: and um fucking s the call pitches to Ryan when

460
00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:27,800
Speaker 1: you go to the party, I will I'll scream from

461
00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:29,320
Speaker 1: It's not it's not a part. It's not like I

462
00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:31,760
Speaker 1: would've been screaming then, you know. It's not like I

463
00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:34,840
Speaker 1: was personally invitent. It was just like I went to

464
00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:37,560
Speaker 1: the premier of season nine of RuPaul's drag race, like

465
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:39,360
Speaker 1: Rue was there, but it wasn't, Like I just said

466
00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:41,440
Speaker 1: at the table with him and like he bent over

467
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:45,120
Speaker 1: and asked how I was. It's like things are who

468
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:48,800
Speaker 1: you are? Who? Then? Are you? Please leave my table?

469
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:51,120
Speaker 1: I need to get change in my dressing room. Um,

470
00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:54,320
Speaker 1: Hello Dolly? So Hello Dolly? And was that the last

471
00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:56,040
Speaker 1: one you saw? Now? That was the that was the

472
00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:58,160
Speaker 1: middle one, So that probably did that ruin the rest

473
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Speaker 1: of him for you because it must have been, well,

474
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Speaker 1: the the first one was war paint than Hello Dolly

475
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:07,160
Speaker 1: that night, and it was the feeling that you got

476
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:11,640
Speaker 1: doing plays in high school, like that good feeling yeah yeah,

477
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:15,080
Speaker 1: like like remember how exciting it was to be play.

478
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:18,800
Speaker 1: It was like that feeling, but in the audience just

479
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,600
Speaker 1: like just like watching yeah yeah yeah, Like it brought

480
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 1: that feeling up of just like you like pretty costumes

481
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:30,880
Speaker 1: and like whoa, there's a train and that that laid

482
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:34,800
Speaker 1: it out. Yeah it's Bett Midler and Helloler. She does

483
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:37,600
Speaker 1: that little scurry walk across the stage at one point.

484
00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:40,440
Speaker 1: Do you think it's going to be impossible to get tickets?

485
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:42,840
Speaker 1: I mean I think you can still, I would if

486
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:48,280
Speaker 1: you can, I think you can they're ridiculously expensive and

487
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:51,800
Speaker 1: nothing's opening up. Well, I fucking we saw Glenn close

488
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:57,360
Speaker 1: for like and the Nose Bleeds though. Okay, okay, but

489
00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:00,359
Speaker 1: here's the thing. So Henry and I were in London

490
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:03,160
Speaker 1: like ten months ago and she was doing it there

491
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 1: and it was a whole different story, like you could

492
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:08,119
Speaker 1: not get a seat. And then someone reminded me, you

493
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:10,800
Speaker 1: will know she did this part and probably already, like

494
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:14,240
Speaker 1: kind of people have already seen it. So a lot

495
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:15,919
Speaker 1: of people that would have been really excited about it,

496
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:17,719
Speaker 1: I have already seen it in New York or if

497
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:20,359
Speaker 1: they didn't, they fucking went to London to see it,

498
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:24,639
Speaker 1: like they made sure they've done seen Glenn Cloves already

499
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:28,440
Speaker 1: do Sunset Boulevard, and so it's not as exciting. I

500
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:31,520
Speaker 1: think it's maybe more for her and lo KEI. We

501
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 1: were in like the fifth mezzanine and it was pretty empty.

502
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 1: It was it was it was not turn out. So

503
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:40,480
Speaker 1: but and this is I just want to mention this

504
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 1: before we move on. Glenn's entrance was from like the

505
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:46,840
Speaker 1: top tier of the stage and so you couldn't see her.

506
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:49,440
Speaker 1: So people started plotting and then we and then Aaron

507
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:52,480
Speaker 1: me Aaron, Henry and Matt are just like, oh, what's

508
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 1: going on? Oh we're plotting Glenn's feet like it's right,

509
00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:59,160
Speaker 1: like that's the entrance, right. She had like after with

510
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:03,360
Speaker 1: one look, she got a standing ovation after as if

511
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:08,000
Speaker 1: we never standing ovation. Then she came out for four

512
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:10,880
Speaker 1: count of four curtain calls, which is on the low end.

513
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:15,240
Speaker 1: Let me tell you, we only asked, but four is

514
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:17,720
Speaker 1: on them. Because I hear that the averages six. She

515
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:20,600
Speaker 1: wouldn't get off. She wouldn't get off. And then what

516
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:23,080
Speaker 1: I was doing, I was saying, probably what's going on

517
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 1: is like because every time she would come back on,

518
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:27,440
Speaker 1: the lead actor would come on as well, and I

519
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:29,560
Speaker 1: was like, probably she's getting off, and then being like

520
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:32,200
Speaker 1: okay now and this time I'll just it'll just be me,

521
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:34,480
Speaker 1: and then he just follows her every time we got

522
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:37,240
Speaker 1: to do it again and it's it's just me. I

523
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:39,080
Speaker 1: don't want to do flour but like I will if

524
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:42,959
Speaker 1: you don't stop doing what you're doing right right. There

525
00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:45,640
Speaker 1: was none of that with miss Bett calls. The bet

526
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:48,120
Speaker 1: take just the one like like the one with your

527
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:50,840
Speaker 1: company and then the one by herself and like you know,

528
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:54,240
Speaker 1: and you know, like a huge ovation when she entered.

529
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:57,440
Speaker 1: You know it's bad, Ian, come on, it's and and

530
00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:00,480
Speaker 1: everyone in the cast is so fucking good. I'm sure.

531
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:07,320
Speaker 1: Um Gavin creel Um. This this actor Taylor Trench, who

532
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:10,920
Speaker 1: is I think he's going to get a tony I think,

533
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,680
Speaker 1: oh yeah, he was. Um Um Blake Dan. He and

534
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:21,000
Speaker 1: Blake Daniel dated for a friend of the show. Hello

535
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:23,760
Speaker 1: Dolly Is has a very special place in my heart.

536
00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 1: It was like one of the first live musicals I

537
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:27,520
Speaker 1: ever saw, and it just fell in love with the

538
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:31,239
Speaker 1: form of musical musical truly. I was like, oh, this

539
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:33,200
Speaker 1: is and it was a well done high school production

540
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 1: of it. The worst thing what There was a drunk

541
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:40,560
Speaker 1: woman next to me, and there was who kept like

542
00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 1: going what no, um and not not even clapping, just

543
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:50,280
Speaker 1: like waving her hand. Yes exactly. It was that. And

544
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:54,480
Speaker 1: then there was behind me a senile old man with

545
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:57,960
Speaker 1: his adult daughter who clearly this daughter was like, oh,

546
00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:00,320
Speaker 1: this dad used to love this show. I'll take him

547
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 1: to see Hello Dolly. He had no idea where he was.

548
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 1: He was talking the whole time, like singing. He kept

549
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:09,240
Speaker 1: singing Hello Dolly like during like ribbons down my back,

550
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 1: like even though he would sing Hello Dolly, and then

551
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 1: he kept trying to make out with her his daughter No, yeah, yeah, yeah.

552
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:19,480
Speaker 1: I could just hear all this going on behind me,

553
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 1: and I was like, please made so much money for

554
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 1: this ticket for my birthday, but the show what is

555
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 1: your birthday? No? Okay, so you bought it back then? Yeah? Okay,

556
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:34,200
Speaker 1: right when it went on, saying yeah, yeah, so I'm

557
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 1: gonna make that my mission because I like, I gotta,

558
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:38,520
Speaker 1: I really want to see you should also go back

559
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:40,800
Speaker 1: and see Donna Murphy when she does it on Tuesdays?

560
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 1: Does see Donna Donna Murphy stepping on Tuesdays two days

561
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 1: after it opens? Yeah? Would pay good when you see

562
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 1: and you know he just died. Oh that's that's tragic.

563
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 1: You know what, you're not a part of this community

564
00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:09,760
Speaker 1: at all. I have some respect trauma trauma. Okay, Wow,

565
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 1: he's never been this vocal. Who knew it would take

566
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 1: us attacking his gay credentials? Yea, oh my god, Donna Murphy,

567
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:18,720
Speaker 1: Donna Murphy. Although you know what, I will say this

568
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 1: not a Tangled fan, but we'll often listen to mother

569
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 1: Knows Best Ticket from your Mumsy Scar. Yeah, I love it.

570
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:31,320
Speaker 1: It has that movie has one of the best villain reprises.

571
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:40,120
Speaker 1: Knows love villain. Yeah, like Ursula deserved a poor Unfortunate

572
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:44,720
Speaker 1: Souls reprise? She got one, did she. I think there's

573
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:46,960
Speaker 1: an element of the song that not in the film,

574
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:49,400
Speaker 1: not in the movie. I don't know. I think that

575
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 1: there was something. Now you know what fact checkers get

576
00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:55,680
Speaker 1: on this. I don't think it's there anyway. Wait, what

577
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:57,800
Speaker 1: would how would I have gone? It would have been

578
00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:02,720
Speaker 1: like true, I had legs and I'm getting my voice.

579
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 1: I don't know how Wait, no, she does? She does

580
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:10,480
Speaker 1: with Vanessa. When she's Vanessa, doesn't she cackle and then

581
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 1: like sing a line as Vanessa? I know it's she

582
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 1: like starts cackling, and then the necklace starts to glow,

583
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:21,240
Speaker 1: and then her form changes into Vanessa and it's just

584
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 1: her laughing and laughing and laugh. No, no, no, she

585
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:25,320
Speaker 1: does have a little bit of a song as she

586
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 1: transforms into Vanessa. Because there's a part where it goes

587
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:32,280
Speaker 1: from pack you're right here, right, it's packed two. It's

588
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:34,880
Speaker 1: when she's human and she's in the palace and she's

589
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:39,720
Speaker 1: looking in a mirror and her reflection is I can't enough.

590
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 1: Whoever decided to name that character of Vanessa. Oh my god,

591
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:47,280
Speaker 1: how I com like the evil version that the evil

592
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:58,240
Speaker 1: hot version of no Vanessa, like I can I don't remember.

593
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 1: I don't think this happened, but in my mind there

594
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 1: was a moment when I watched it and hearing her

595
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:11,839
Speaker 1: name Vanessa, thinking thank you, like like yes, unaware game,

596
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:16,200
Speaker 1: We're like that feels right? Yeah? Waitum did pat Carol?

597
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:18,719
Speaker 1: That's the way I would imagine that she must think

598
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:23,399
Speaker 1: she might still be alive. Airplane moment, but you would

599
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 1: be surprised. Who's alive? Glenn's John's is alive? Who is familiar?

600
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 1: Um sending the clown the original st Night music? And

601
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:36,239
Speaker 1: she also played I first. Oh, this is another like

602
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 1: culture moment. Birth moment for me was the movie Superstar.

603
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:45,480
Speaker 1: At one point, Glennis John's, who plays her grandmother, is

604
00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:49,920
Speaker 1: watching the movie of Gypsy and I was like twelve,

605
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 1: and I was like, I need to see that movie.

606
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 1: And so then I did like detective work, like like

607
00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:59,160
Speaker 1: there's you can hear one song of one line of

608
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:01,959
Speaker 1: Everything's coming up roses and I found the musical based

609
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:05,959
Speaker 1: on that and you watched it at a young young age.

610
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:09,040
Speaker 1: See that was me with um, I've talked about this

611
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:13,240
Speaker 1: funny girl. My mom loved Barbara streis And, and we actually,

612
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 1: Sudy and I saw her in concert, like I love

613
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 1: Barbara deeply and that was like the night. Yeah, we

614
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:24,000
Speaker 1: did go the same night. Yeah, so and it was awesome. Yeah,

615
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 1: but also that that concert got ruined for me by

616
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:29,760
Speaker 1: the conservative woman who sat behind me, who was screaming,

617
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:32,879
Speaker 1: I heard a shut up about politics. At this point,

618
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:35,280
Speaker 1: you have to know you came to a Barbara streis

619
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 1: And concert in the middle of the biggest election of

620
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:39,480
Speaker 1: all time, Like, what the fund did you think? She's

621
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 1: in Brooklyn? Right? But she was incredible and um so

622
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:50,200
Speaker 1: relaxed and funny girl to me, one of the most

623
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 1: iconic performances. But it's so weird how we find those things, right,

624
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:58,000
Speaker 1: Like what a tangential way you to get to arrive

625
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:00,840
Speaker 1: at that, because you expect when people sort of toss

626
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:03,960
Speaker 1: off these references and these like you yeah yeah, like

627
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 1: these movies that it's like, oh, of course you very

628
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:08,839
Speaker 1: organically found it, but it's like it very rarely ever

629
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:11,800
Speaker 1: works out the way. I have a question. Okay, so

630
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:16,400
Speaker 1: what's the best live performance you've ever seen? Oh? I

631
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Speaker 1: know my answer, I have an answered. It's very basic

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Speaker 1: what I have. It's I probably have a different answer,

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Speaker 1: but like just on the criteria, the criteria of live performance, UM,

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Speaker 1: Beyonce Information World Tour, and it's very blew my mind.

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Speaker 1: That was see, I was thinking in a more theatrical space.

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Speaker 1: So then that's a different because you know what, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: for sure when I saw her do her for performance

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Speaker 1: at roseland that was unbelievable. But I was thinking, I

639
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Speaker 1: remember when I was young. I was like eleven or

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Speaker 1: eleven or twelve, thirteen years old, um, and we went

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Speaker 1: to the city, came in from the Long Island, and

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Speaker 1: we went to the t KTS booth to get like

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Speaker 1: cheap tickets to something. And this was right after Sutton

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Speaker 1: Foster had wanted Tony. Yeah, and so I'm gonna call

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Speaker 1: it throwing modern And she was the like name over

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Speaker 1: Drowsy Chaperon. So we got tickets to see the preview

647
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:18,600
Speaker 1: of Drowsy Chaperon and she gagged the house down. There's

648
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Speaker 1: a number called show Off. Yeah yeah, oh my god.

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00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:23,960
Speaker 1: It was a feat. You know. I'm I'm friends with

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Speaker 1: Lisa Lambert who wrote the lyrics. She's fantastic, yeah yeah,

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Speaker 1: And she when I was in Toronto. She that's where

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00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 1: she wrote the show, and she was like, I wanted

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Speaker 1: to want me to show you the house where I

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Speaker 1: wrote show off. Oh my god, Oh my god, that's

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Speaker 1: on the website. That number. That number is incredible and

656
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:46,719
Speaker 1: like it's truly it's so funny because I love that.

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00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:50,239
Speaker 1: I love that, Like no, I'm I'm like ignorant to

658
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 1: my own talent comedy. Yeah, it's so good. It's just

659
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Speaker 1: so stocked. But like when someone can really fucking nail it,

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Speaker 1: and my god, Sutton Foster is she's believable. Like wow,

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Speaker 1: I just I can't think of like it was in

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Speaker 1: the same room. But I will regularly watch seven Foster's

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Speaker 1: rehearsal if anything goes Yeah, she's where she just fucking

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Speaker 1: tap dances for ten minutes straight. Um Cole, uh what

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Speaker 1: about you? Um? Ellen Green a Little Shop concert at

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Speaker 1: City Center because did you guys see it? No? I

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Speaker 1: didn't see it, but like I mean like talk about

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Speaker 1: like ovation for like every line reading, and she was

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Speaker 1: like ripping her heart out, everyone's hearts out. Like the

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00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:46,480
Speaker 1: whole audience was like respectful, reverential and and gagging and gagging.

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Speaker 1: He was great. He was good enough, but not like competing,

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00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 1: and it was like he let her like have all

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Speaker 1: her moments like she would like she would. She would

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Speaker 1: take ten minutes for one word, and the whole audience

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Speaker 1: would be like, take take your time, your time, and

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Speaker 1: that's amazing. Yeah, it was like it was one of

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Speaker 1: those things where like I had to like instead of

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Speaker 1: going to the closest train, I was like, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: walk like a few stops because I got to this

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Speaker 1: out let this think in. But every time I've seen

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Speaker 1: Beyonce I walked after. I was like, I gotta walk that,

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Speaker 1: but I take it. What was so fucking crazy. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so that was my go too. And now I'm blanking

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Speaker 1: them like a theatrical performance. But we'll get back to her. Well.

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Speaker 1: You know, I actually saw Patty in Gypsy Too and

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Speaker 1: Gypsy to Gypsy or Mama's Revenge Revenge, But I saw

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Speaker 1: her do like a matinee of the show, and I

688
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 1: was in the way back and I think she marked

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Speaker 1: her ship, but I don't know not to come for Patty.

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00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 1: She fucking is amazing, but she is marking no. But

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Speaker 1: and you know what it was like ones day where

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Speaker 1: she had to do the show again later, and I

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Speaker 1: think I might have gotten like the reserved version of Mama.

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Speaker 1: And also, I have to be honest, like from a

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Speaker 1: young age, I probably every single day watched the Bernade

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Speaker 1: Peters Tony Awards performance, and that is, to me, one

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Speaker 1: of the best performances ever. Have you seen the clips

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Speaker 1: of Angela doing it? No, there's like clips, like, of

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Speaker 1: course they didn't have that, like the technology to like

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Speaker 1: film the whole thing secretly then, but there are like

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Speaker 1: enough clips. There's a clip of her roses turn like

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00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:32,359
Speaker 1: the tail end of it, and it's like, we'll put

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Speaker 1: it on the website. Put on the website the way

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Speaker 1: back to Bed. That's pretty iconic too. Yeah. Yeah, for me,

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Speaker 1: it's like, um, Patty unfortunately fifth place, fourth place, Um,

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Speaker 1: I give it to Bed, third place, emmel To Staunton

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Speaker 1: second place, Burnadette first place. Chris Colfer on Glee, The

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Speaker 1: definitive roses turn leave is Emelda is is peasant? Is

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Speaker 1: very Oh my god. Someone before before the performance started,

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00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:14,960
Speaker 1: someone said, Emelda, here's your inspiration dog food And she's like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: she's disgusting. I hate all her choices. She's cheap and

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00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 1: she's vulgar. Okay, so did you just see the performance

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Speaker 1: of Roses Turned or did you just see did you

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00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:27,920
Speaker 1: I saw the whole thing? You didn't? Well because it

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00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:33,000
Speaker 1: was they filmed it um and it's awful. Here's yeah,

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00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 1: well she's she's awful. She's Did you like Vera Drake?

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00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:41,719
Speaker 1: I did, but again that's a common woman. Did you

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00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:45,440
Speaker 1: know she plays a peasant. She's a peasant. She was

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00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:48,560
Speaker 1: the perfect Unbridge Harry Potter your she was an incredible

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Speaker 1: Unbridge and not I missed the boat on hair worries,

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00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:53,280
Speaker 1: but she was great. I was just the wrong age.

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Speaker 1: I have a question for you. Cole school was going

723
00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:58,719
Speaker 1: on vacation. Where do you go? What do you do?

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Speaker 1: You know it's my dream too. I've never really taken

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Speaker 1: myself on a vacation. I want to go to Switzerland.

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00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:07,400
Speaker 1: Oh great. I want to just be in the mountains

727
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 1: and go on the balcony and have my coffee every

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00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:11,279
Speaker 1: morning and look at the Alps, you look at the

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Speaker 1: opps Land and Zurich and just just have fun. Yeah.

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00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:16,640
Speaker 1: I want to go down to the desk and be like,

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Speaker 1: can you recommend a nice place for lunch? And they

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00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:21,879
Speaker 1: and then I walk there and I passed a farm

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Speaker 1: with some cows. The win of Europe is very bad.

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Speaker 1: It's like, where should I go? And while I'm getting there,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna stop and enjoy because you know what, I'm

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Speaker 1: in a place I'm almost I'm almost too young for

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00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:38,480
Speaker 1: the trip I want to take, like I want very

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Speaker 1: much like um a Geraldine Page tripped a bound a

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00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 1: full moment. You know, yes, I do like just like

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Speaker 1: arms crossed, lace gloves. You know, have you ever been

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00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 1: to Disney World? I haven't, but I have. I recently

742
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:56,560
Speaker 1: went to Disneyland. I'm happy that you know how the

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00:42:56,600 --> 00:43:00,160
Speaker 1: different it is. I do know how different it is. Um.

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00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 1: It was smaller than I remembered it because I went

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00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:05,879
Speaker 1: as a twelve year old and it was a lot

746
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:10,920
Speaker 1: less antique. Yeah, antique. Twelve was an interesting age to

747
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 1: go for the first time. Well, I was obsessed with

748
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 1: Disney when I was a child. That was another like

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00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 1: gay culture thing I love, but I loved like. I

750
00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:21,400
Speaker 1: would stay up and watch Vault Disney, which was the

751
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:24,279
Speaker 1: Disney channel at eleven PM, would show all their old

752
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:26,440
Speaker 1: It was like Nick at Night, but for the Disney Channel.

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00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:29,440
Speaker 1: So I would watch all those in net Funicello, Hayley

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00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:34,880
Speaker 1: Mills movies and so um. Anyway, I was so excited

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00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:37,480
Speaker 1: to be in Disneyland when I was twelve and um

756
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:42,080
Speaker 1: like had like got a picture with every princess. Um

757
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 1: wore the same Disneyland sweatshirt like every day. Yeah, it's

758
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:49,480
Speaker 1: a thing. It's a different thing when you're obviously and

759
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:54,959
Speaker 1: this is it, I think, so um yeah, I'm still

760
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:57,800
Speaker 1: get for it. Cool. I would I would encourage you

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00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:01,439
Speaker 1: to mind about disney World Okay, not even disney World

762
00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:06,399
Speaker 1: Universal Studios okay, because you, I think would appreciate Harry

763
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:10,799
Speaker 1: Potter World even though I love a world and then

764
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:13,359
Speaker 1: you can get your worlds. Yeah, I love I love

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00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:16,759
Speaker 1: a different like put me in it. I remember I

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00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:19,399
Speaker 1: went to flint Stone Land when I was little. Oh yeah,

767
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:22,640
Speaker 1: this was in Canada. We had relatives there and it

768
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:25,880
Speaker 1: was one of the more traumatizing memories because I we

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Speaker 1: were on the bus. There were no characters about except

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00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 1: for when we were on this bus going around. I

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00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 1: saw Betty rubble out like taking photos. I think you're

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00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:40,640
Speaker 1: gonna say, smoking a cigarette on a cigarette No, but um,

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00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:43,320
Speaker 1: I really wanted but they wouldn't stop the bus for

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Speaker 1: me to get off, and then I was crying and

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00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:49,160
Speaker 1: then the bus driver like made a joke about it

776
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:53,920
Speaker 1: and everyone laughed at me. That motherfucker that sucks. Did

777
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 1: you feel something changed inside you and then you were gay? No?

778
00:44:57,280 --> 00:45:00,480
Speaker 1: I felt I felt like I felt like that moment

779
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:03,279
Speaker 1: everyone was telling me, like, you're gay. You need to

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00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:06,440
Speaker 1: pull it back. When you flash back to those moments

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00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:08,400
Speaker 1: when you realize, oh wait, that thing that I remember

782
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 1: that was traumatizing, there was a there was a your

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00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 1: gay element. Yeah. Yeah, it was like it was like

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00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:16,959
Speaker 1: we don't talk about that, Like you can like Betty

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00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:21,240
Speaker 1: Rubble at home, but when you're out, you like Fred Okay.

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00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:24,320
Speaker 1: I sat on Santa's lap and asked for a barbie

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Speaker 1: and he said, you want what you want to barbie.

788
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:32,120
Speaker 1: Boys don't get barbies. Santa Claus said that to me,

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00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:35,880
Speaker 1: Oh my god, do you remember when McDonald's would have

790
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:37,759
Speaker 1: hot wheels and barbies and you would have to go

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00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:41,160
Speaker 1: through the drive through and be like, mom um, I

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00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 1: want the girl toy and then and then your mom

793
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:46,959
Speaker 1: would have to be like, can we get one happy

794
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:50,000
Speaker 1: with the boy toy and one with the girl toy?

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00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 1: And just like act like that was like an accident

796
00:45:56,360 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 1: somehow like what mom but talking about? And I guess

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00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:02,239
Speaker 1: I mean I have a few of the other ones.

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00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:06,000
Speaker 1: So yeah, I already have my sister who doesn't exist exactly.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, our moms were our original hags. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: and we're back with Cole of School. Uh okay, so

884
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Speaker 1: now okay, let's get into it. Cole. Are you a

885
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:27,719
Speaker 1: Betty or a Joan? Because I know who I am? Well,

886
00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:30,960
Speaker 1: you know what? Um, oh my god, this is so hard.

887
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:35,239
Speaker 1: How much time to a ten seconds? Oh god? I

888
00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:42,239
Speaker 1: mean Betty Betty? But there are so many things about

889
00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:47,880
Speaker 1: Joan that like, are so much more fascinating because she, honestly,

890
00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:52,640
Speaker 1: she's a more interesting character because she is so self

891
00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:58,120
Speaker 1: conscious and so like self hating and so scared that

892
00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:01,000
Speaker 1: every reason, for every reason, and and there's so many

893
00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:05,720
Speaker 1: more facets to that than Betty, who's just like always

894
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:07,800
Speaker 1: like she came out of the womb who she was,

895
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:12,680
Speaker 1: you know, always brash, always, Yeah, do you have a

896
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:16,320
Speaker 1: very positive opinion of the show. Yes, yeah, I'm loving it.

897
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:19,160
Speaker 1: I'm loving it. I'm sort of like I feel like

898
00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:22,920
Speaker 1: we um are like it was a mistake, Like how

899
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:27,080
Speaker 1: did Like there's like there's too many stars aligned right right,

900
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:29,399
Speaker 1: like like why do we get this? Like this isn't

901
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:31,759
Speaker 1: like like I feel like we we're gonna like be

902
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:36,000
Speaker 1: taxed at the end of the year when yeah, remember

903
00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:38,120
Speaker 1: when you had to check gay last year. Well, this

904
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:41,560
Speaker 1: year you're being you're paying for it, and you know what,

905
00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:44,399
Speaker 1: I'm fine. I would pay for that if that's where

906
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:48,080
Speaker 1: my tax money is going to. Yeah, yeah, it's fine.

907
00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:49,719
Speaker 1: Like I trusted him with my money more than maybe

908
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:53,040
Speaker 1: anyone else. Yeah. Um, I'm really obsessed with it and

909
00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:56,200
Speaker 1: I'm loving it, and I really it was very hard,

910
00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:59,719
Speaker 1: but I'm sucking living for surrandom in this Surrandon's great

911
00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:03,719
Speaker 1: and drove me nuts during the elections, but a man,

912
00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:07,480
Speaker 1: she's I think she's perfectly suited to me too. God damnit,

913
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:13,200
Speaker 1: Joan you good? Yeah, wow, solid impression. Yeah when you're good, Joan,

914
00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:16,719
Speaker 1: God damn it, jo good. Jessica Lange had this really

915
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:19,680
Speaker 1: funny line reading in this last one, and I can't

916
00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:23,160
Speaker 1: remember the exact words. I remember the weird word choice

917
00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:27,320
Speaker 1: she made, but it was like where she was slamming

918
00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:30,200
Speaker 1: her dressing room door, it was some line about how

919
00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:33,160
Speaker 1: Glorious Swanson deserved It wasn't you who was robbed the

920
00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:36,560
Speaker 1: nineteen six two, It was Gloria Swanson. No, but and

921
00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:41,320
Speaker 1: then she goes it was Gloria Swanson you bed. It

922
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:48,520
Speaker 1: was that weird inflection, honestly, And also just like everything

923
00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:51,799
Speaker 1: about the show, it's just like drenched in like authentic

924
00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:56,480
Speaker 1: like set design, the art direction's fabulous, it really is.

925
00:52:56,640 --> 00:52:59,759
Speaker 1: And also all the supporting cast act do we need

926
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:03,279
Speaker 1: do we can? We talk about Katherine Zada Jones and

927
00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:06,120
Speaker 1: Kathy Bases. We're the worst part of the show. I

928
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:09,600
Speaker 1: think we don't need we don't need them because all

929
00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:11,640
Speaker 1: they do is tell us what just happened and like

930
00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:13,719
Speaker 1: what's about to happen. But to be fair, to be fair,

931
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:16,399
Speaker 1: I'm twoes two episodes behind. But I feel like it's

932
00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:19,600
Speaker 1: like they don't do anything different, and also that it's

933
00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:21,920
Speaker 1: not it's not driving anything, but I think it's I

934
00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:25,640
Speaker 1: think it's also just a nice stylistic choice of Ryan

935
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:28,280
Speaker 1: Murphy to be like, Okay, well, then there's just like frame,

936
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:29,960
Speaker 1: like it's it's like a pretty little lie. It's like

937
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:31,360
Speaker 1: a big little lies where it's where it's like the

938
00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:33,640
Speaker 1: interview the towns people, it's like you don't mean it,

939
00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:36,320
Speaker 1: but it's also like a nice framing device that is

940
00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:40,160
Speaker 1: not totally functional, but that is functional, like the framing

941
00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:44,000
Speaker 1: device and Big Little Lies is like it's like it's

942
00:53:44,040 --> 00:53:48,080
Speaker 1: like but it's also functional because it's a police investigation,

943
00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:51,480
Speaker 1: so it's real where this is like a documentary about

944
00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:56,360
Speaker 1: them then because they're the same age and that's what happened. Also,

945
00:53:56,760 --> 00:54:04,399
Speaker 1: they're both so bad. Yeah I think she's so bad. Yeah, yeah,

946
00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:08,239
Speaker 1: she's so she's and I think she's really talented. Like

947
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:10,600
Speaker 1: I've lived for her in Chicago, and I've lived for

948
00:54:10,640 --> 00:54:13,000
Speaker 1: her so many times. She's so bad in this part,

949
00:54:13,120 --> 00:54:16,600
Speaker 1: and so is Kathy Bates. And also Kathy Bates killed

950
00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:20,279
Speaker 1: in um like con Covin, and like she's killed so

951
00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:22,680
Speaker 1: many times in her career. But she's not always good

952
00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:25,759
Speaker 1: in these the Ryan Murphy shows, Oh god, that can.

953
00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:28,640
Speaker 1: I mean, maybe the best thing that we've ever gotten

954
00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:35,040
Speaker 1: from Ryan Murphy is Kathy Bates's accent in Philadelphia Czar

955
00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:44,960
Speaker 1: a show where he just replicates that healthy accent. Um know,

956
00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:47,800
Speaker 1: the worst part of Feud is Kiernan Ship. She's not

957
00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:50,960
Speaker 1: the worst part, absolutely, she's the worst part. She's like

958
00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:57,440
Speaker 1: just yeah, she's just too you just don't like her

959
00:54:57,440 --> 00:55:00,359
Speaker 1: as an actress. She she's overcamping it. Yeah, I mean, yeah,

960
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:02,960
Speaker 1: it's that, but it's like it's not it's not a

961
00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:06,200
Speaker 1: match with But this last episode I think was the

962
00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:11,640
Speaker 1: best episode yet. Um So I agree because now that

963
00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:14,279
Speaker 1: the filming of Baby Jane is over, like this is

964
00:55:14,320 --> 00:55:17,840
Speaker 1: the actual like now it's where, I guess really interesting

965
00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:21,040
Speaker 1: because so basically for those that I watched on the

966
00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:24,279
Speaker 1: show are like just to where we're at right now.

967
00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:25,760
Speaker 1: If you're listening to it at a at a certain

968
00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:28,960
Speaker 1: time like in the series, right now filming is over,

969
00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:32,960
Speaker 1: they just well the end of the episode and is

970
00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:35,320
Speaker 1: like Joan Crawford finds out she was not nominated for

971
00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:38,319
Speaker 1: Best Actress and historically yes, Betty Davis was, and that's

972
00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:40,680
Speaker 1: gonna happen. That's gonna lead to a certain event happening.

973
00:55:40,760 --> 00:55:43,719
Speaker 1: That's like what this whole thing is about. But it's

974
00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:48,520
Speaker 1: so fascinating Joan Crawford. She couldn't enjoy success. She was

975
00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:52,359
Speaker 1: someone who constantly almost like out of fear, like would

976
00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:54,720
Speaker 1: rather live in a place of failure and self hatred

977
00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:57,520
Speaker 1: despite the fact that this was a huge success, Like

978
00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:01,400
Speaker 1: she gets this taste of happy when the fans are

979
00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:04,120
Speaker 1: really enjoying it and it's this like camp success. But

980
00:56:04,239 --> 00:56:08,480
Speaker 1: then when the actual critics post their reviews and like

981
00:56:08,600 --> 00:56:11,480
Speaker 1: give their notices, Betty Davis gets all the love and

982
00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:13,960
Speaker 1: all the attention, and Joan Crawford is like, you know,

983
00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:20,000
Speaker 1: when they're screening the movie and then and then Joan

984
00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:23,040
Speaker 1: comes out of the theater and everyone's like, it's Joan,

985
00:56:23,360 --> 00:56:27,480
Speaker 1: It's Joan Crawford. I cried. I cried, I cried. I

986
00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:30,960
Speaker 1: was like, well, then Ryan, it was. It was amazing.

987
00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:34,600
Speaker 1: But then just like what an amazing character examination like,

988
00:56:34,719 --> 00:56:38,839
Speaker 1: and I'm it's now kind of like it feels like, yes,

989
00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:41,879
Speaker 1: the more interesting story is happening with Joan Crawford, because

990
00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:44,080
Speaker 1: I think she was just a more fascinating, harder to

991
00:56:44,160 --> 00:56:47,520
Speaker 1: crack person, And I'm wondering if he's going to try

992
00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:50,120
Speaker 1: to like push those stakes up a little bit with

993
00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:52,560
Speaker 1: the Betty Davis character as well, because we really haven't

994
00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:55,520
Speaker 1: seen her like struggle. In fact, it's very easy to

995
00:56:55,600 --> 00:56:58,359
Speaker 1: be on her side because you get that Betty Davis

996
00:56:58,440 --> 00:57:00,320
Speaker 1: just wanted to go there and do the work and

997
00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:04,080
Speaker 1: creative peace, um, which is easier to sympathize with. And

998
00:57:04,120 --> 00:57:07,600
Speaker 1: I'm wondering if now we're going to see the kind

999
00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:10,480
Speaker 1: of Joan Crawford like the Mastermind, like and we're going

1000
00:57:10,560 --> 00:57:12,800
Speaker 1: to really feel for Betty and then when when what

1001
00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:17,480
Speaker 1: happens happened? Right? Oh yeah, yeah, but we'll see. I

1002
00:57:17,560 --> 00:57:20,160
Speaker 1: think the show is fabulous. It's suspiciously good. It's what

1003
00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:23,000
Speaker 1: Coal was saying, it's suspiciously good. Yeah, I'm I'm never

1004
00:57:23,160 --> 00:57:25,160
Speaker 1: on board for rhein M. I feel like like we

1005
00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:29,200
Speaker 1: are like like putting on our mom's dresses and at

1006
00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:32,520
Speaker 1: any moment she's going to come in and be like, yeah,

1007
00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:36,040
Speaker 1: what's doing Never, we're gonna have to explain ourselves, Like

1008
00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:38,560
Speaker 1: someone's going to come in and be like, what is

1009
00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:40,520
Speaker 1: this show? And we're gonna have to be like, it's nothing.

1010
00:57:40,640 --> 00:57:43,280
Speaker 1: We were just playing around with your actresses. We're sorry,

1011
00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:49,919
Speaker 1: like you can have them back her line reading she's

1012
00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:52,480
Speaker 1: I think Jessica lying is killing it, just like and

1013
00:57:52,640 --> 00:57:55,880
Speaker 1: also when Betty Davis goes, god damnit, Joan, you good?

1014
00:57:56,040 --> 00:58:02,760
Speaker 1: And then John Cofford goes really think so and it's

1015
00:58:02,800 --> 00:58:07,560
Speaker 1: like yeah. On YouTube there is Joan Crawford reading her

1016
00:58:08,160 --> 00:58:10,880
Speaker 1: autobiography My Way of Life, which is sort of like

1017
00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:14,720
Speaker 1: a how to guide of like how to live, like

1018
00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:18,200
Speaker 1: the original Blake Lively, g One of Paltrow, exactly the

1019
00:58:18,280 --> 00:58:21,680
Speaker 1: group of that time. And you should I highly recommend

1020
00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:24,800
Speaker 1: going on to YouTube and searching Joan Crawford My Way

1021
00:58:24,840 --> 00:58:26,080
Speaker 1: of Life. We'll put it on the box, put it

1022
00:58:26,120 --> 00:58:30,439
Speaker 1: on the block. It's gonna be a rich post exists. Yeah, yeah,

1023
00:58:31,120 --> 00:58:34,400
Speaker 1: you should. You should have a tumbler and post related pick. Well,

1024
00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:36,240
Speaker 1: you know, we should have was a fucking Facebook page.

1025
00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:38,160
Speaker 1: We didn't even have that. We need to get that

1026
00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:40,600
Speaker 1: ship together. And I made one a few months ago

1027
00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:42,600
Speaker 1: when I was drunk, and there's three people who like

1028
00:58:42,720 --> 00:58:46,000
Speaker 1: it anyway. Okay, well I didn't know what exists? Yeah,

1029
00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:49,320
Speaker 1: um who knows? Okay, So okay, So Joan Crawford has this,

1030
00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:52,240
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, it's just it's just you're just

1031
00:58:52,280 --> 00:58:55,200
Speaker 1: talking about You're just giving a signal boost. Yes, so

1032
00:58:55,480 --> 00:58:57,520
Speaker 1: whatever happened to baby? Did like one of your faves?

1033
00:58:57,760 --> 00:59:03,720
Speaker 1: Actually not really, what did you like? I Mildred? I

1034
00:59:03,760 --> 00:59:07,320
Speaker 1: do like Mildred, But I actually prefer jones earlier stuff

1035
00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:13,160
Speaker 1: where she was like young and hungry and played like I.

1036
00:59:13,680 --> 00:59:16,000
Speaker 1: I recently went into a place where I was watching

1037
00:59:16,040 --> 00:59:21,840
Speaker 1: her silent movies, like are Dancing Daughters? Is this one

1038
00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:25,080
Speaker 1: where she plays like a flapper and and they're all

1039
00:59:25,120 --> 00:59:28,640
Speaker 1: about like how she's a flapper and has this immoral

1040
00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:32,280
Speaker 1: life style and everyone looks down on her, and then

1041
00:59:32,320 --> 00:59:36,040
Speaker 1: she makes some grave sacrifice and ends up like giving

1042
00:59:36,120 --> 00:59:38,680
Speaker 1: up the man she loves because she doesn't want him

1043
00:59:38,720 --> 00:59:43,040
Speaker 1: to marry a marked woman because she like was engaged

1044
00:59:43,240 --> 00:59:50,320
Speaker 1: to someone else. So, um, I'm sorry, Yeah, some some

1045
00:59:50,600 --> 00:59:52,880
Speaker 1: deep stories. Well yeah, they you know, this was before

1046
00:59:52,920 --> 00:59:55,720
Speaker 1: the Haze code where they were you know, you know

1047
00:59:55,800 --> 00:59:58,680
Speaker 1: all these I don't know how old the fan bases

1048
00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:01,080
Speaker 1: out there, but there was something in the in the

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01:00:01,320 --> 01:00:04,880
Speaker 1: in their thirties and the later thirties on code, and

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01:00:04,960 --> 01:00:09,000
Speaker 1: that's when movies had to like to a moral standard

1051
01:00:09,080 --> 01:00:11,959
Speaker 1: and like bad guys had to have their come up ins,

1052
01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:15,960
Speaker 1: which is why in movies like The Letter Um the

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01:00:16,000 --> 01:00:19,080
Speaker 1: Betty Davis movie, in the play version, she gets away

1054
01:00:19,200 --> 01:00:21,000
Speaker 1: with the murder, but in in the movie like she

1055
01:00:21,120 --> 01:00:24,600
Speaker 1: has to pay for it at the very end. So

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Speaker 1: do you think that like this was like you got

1057
01:00:26,560 --> 01:00:28,840
Speaker 1: you got really like kind of obsessed with these kind

1058
01:00:28,840 --> 01:00:31,560
Speaker 1: of movies And it absolutely definitely informed like the kind

1059
01:00:31,600 --> 01:00:35,160
Speaker 1: of characters you play in the work you see. I

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01:00:35,360 --> 01:00:38,320
Speaker 1: feel the same because, like I find that the kind

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01:00:38,320 --> 01:00:40,959
Speaker 1: of character that I gravitate towards her, like some people,

1062
01:00:41,040 --> 01:00:43,400
Speaker 1: like like girls that I idolized growing up, which was

1063
01:00:43,440 --> 01:00:46,280
Speaker 1: like honestly like Alicia Silverstone, Like I'm from Long Island,

1064
01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:48,640
Speaker 1: so I saw her and I was like, yeah, what's

1065
01:00:48,680 --> 01:00:52,360
Speaker 1: the deal with that? I was like what there? Like, yeah,

1066
01:00:52,440 --> 01:00:55,480
Speaker 1: like hot young girls like in like in high school

1067
01:00:55,520 --> 01:00:58,240
Speaker 1: that took themselves so seriously, Like that never stopped being

1068
01:00:58,280 --> 01:01:00,280
Speaker 1: fascinated to me, and that really shows up still on

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01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:03,000
Speaker 1: the stuff that I do. So it's fascinating to hear that,

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01:01:03,160 --> 01:01:06,680
Speaker 1: Like that's like a real oh yeah, yeah, yeah, you

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01:01:06,880 --> 01:01:10,400
Speaker 1: you drop back to that you intrapolate or whatever, like

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01:01:10,560 --> 01:01:12,720
Speaker 1: you you imprint on something at a young age and

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01:01:12,760 --> 01:01:16,000
Speaker 1: it never really goes away. I mean, I mean Cole

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Speaker 1: Cole is the pre eminent master of that. I agree.

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01:01:19,480 --> 01:01:24,080
Speaker 1: You also do that theater director character. Oh Diane, Diane,

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Speaker 1: did you ever know Liz Suados? Have you ever heard

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01:01:27,480 --> 01:01:29,800
Speaker 1: of her. I've heard that name. Yeah, she was a

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Speaker 1: theater director. She passed away a couple of years ago,

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01:01:32,840 --> 01:01:34,480
Speaker 1: but that I worked with her, and I thought, oh

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01:01:34,560 --> 01:01:37,320
Speaker 1: my god, I wanted he knows Liz Suados because she

1081
01:01:37,560 --> 01:01:41,280
Speaker 1: was like a la mama, like real presence like on

1082
01:01:41,400 --> 01:01:44,680
Speaker 1: the in the downtown, like um, you know, lowery side.

1083
01:01:44,760 --> 01:01:47,680
Speaker 1: Like she wrote the show Runaways. It was a Tony

1084
01:01:47,760 --> 01:01:49,920
Speaker 1: nominated back in the day, and she kind of like

1085
01:01:50,040 --> 01:01:52,080
Speaker 1: ended up working with young kids and like just the

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01:01:52,200 --> 01:01:55,160
Speaker 1: way that you behave is that character is Liz down

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01:01:55,280 --> 01:01:58,840
Speaker 1: to the wig that like kind of like stringy, stringy,

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01:01:58,960 --> 01:02:03,440
Speaker 1: like blacked out like like like kind of like I

1089
01:02:03,520 --> 01:02:06,360
Speaker 1: don't care about this, but of course I do, like

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01:02:06,560 --> 01:02:09,200
Speaker 1: I know exactly the way I look, but like you

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01:02:09,320 --> 01:02:14,600
Speaker 1: don't think. So yeah. She started based on like and

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01:02:14,800 --> 01:02:19,800
Speaker 1: every you know, like community theater elders that like that

1093
01:02:20,120 --> 01:02:23,520
Speaker 1: just were so full of lore and like you were

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01:02:23,600 --> 01:02:27,120
Speaker 1: there for it and like and and like that's what

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01:02:27,240 --> 01:02:29,040
Speaker 1: can happen if you don't put your prop down in

1096
01:02:29,080 --> 01:02:32,600
Speaker 1: the right place, like and just like telling you these

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01:02:32,640 --> 01:02:35,560
Speaker 1: stories as if they were like ghost stories, like just

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01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:38,560
Speaker 1: you know, like but then but the lore meanwhile was

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01:02:38,680 --> 01:02:43,240
Speaker 1: like not even that, no, no, no, no. It was

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01:02:43,320 --> 01:02:46,640
Speaker 1: always like and if you don't we did not have

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01:02:46,720 --> 01:02:50,640
Speaker 1: the basket of grapes for our town Square sequence, and

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01:02:50,800 --> 01:02:53,080
Speaker 1: I kid you not. We had six actors out there

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01:02:54,320 --> 01:02:56,520
Speaker 1: that we're all looking at each other, what what are

1104
01:02:56,520 --> 01:03:00,360
Speaker 1: we doing? But what you don't know is the audience

1105
01:03:00,520 --> 01:03:03,440
Speaker 1: is looking to you for what to do and you're like, oh, okay,

1106
01:03:03,640 --> 01:03:09,840
Speaker 1: like you just and they didn't feel safe right therefore, Yeah, yeah,

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01:03:10,240 --> 01:03:12,320
Speaker 1: that's so real. Also, ill never forget a character you

1108
01:03:12,440 --> 01:03:16,880
Speaker 1: played at your show, Um Ethnic Realness one. It was

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01:03:17,320 --> 01:03:22,440
Speaker 1: downstairs at the pitch Jennifer Convertible Your character of Jennifer

1110
01:03:22,520 --> 01:03:26,360
Speaker 1: Convertibles was very good, and thank you. Thanks, I'm glad

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01:03:26,480 --> 01:03:31,800
Speaker 1: that was a positive memory. An amazing and amazing black outline.

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Speaker 1: This whole it's this whole soapy drama sequence about Jennifer Convertibles,

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Speaker 1: UM owner. I guess and you can correct me, of

1114
01:03:39,680 --> 01:03:44,200
Speaker 1: the Jennifer Convertibles Empire, and she saw she she she

1115
01:03:44,360 --> 01:03:47,520
Speaker 1: ends up like solving this like plot to like I

1116
01:03:47,600 --> 01:03:50,080
Speaker 1: guess kill her and the and the last line is

1117
01:03:50,440 --> 01:03:54,240
Speaker 1: but Jennifer, Oh it was right, like it was someone

1118
01:03:54,640 --> 01:03:57,800
Speaker 1: what I thought was it was Ashley Home furniture had

1119
01:03:57,840 --> 01:03:59,720
Speaker 1: come to kill me, but it turned out to be

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01:04:01,680 --> 01:04:05,320
Speaker 1: and I put it well, it was like Kia, I

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01:04:05,440 --> 01:04:10,960
Speaker 1: put the pieces together myself back honestly, probably that Ato's

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Speaker 1: pub Yeah, I would be very happy. Also, wait then

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Speaker 1: there's of course. I mean, this is like seeing the

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Speaker 1: praises of cool our right now. But maybe one of

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Speaker 1: the best videos online is um happy Orange. That's so good. Thanks,

1126
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Speaker 1: Oh my god, just just go home. Google search Cola

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01:04:33,440 --> 01:04:38,160
Speaker 1: Scola happy like Cola Scola. What would commercial commercial have?

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Speaker 1: You're just typing all the buzzwords. You will be very

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01:04:40,280 --> 01:04:43,840
Speaker 1: glad that you did a ride that I've always wanted

1130
01:04:44,080 --> 01:04:48,080
Speaker 1: to be like moms and commercials that I remember, Like

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01:04:48,960 --> 01:04:54,120
Speaker 1: my first TV appearance was when I was eleven years old.

1132
01:04:55,160 --> 01:04:58,920
Speaker 1: I called in to QVC and gave a testimonial on

1133
01:04:59,000 --> 01:05:03,160
Speaker 1: the air as a mother, as a mother, and they

1134
01:05:03,240 --> 01:05:05,600
Speaker 1: bought it. Yeah. I mean I didn't say yeah, I

1135
01:05:05,640 --> 01:05:07,560
Speaker 1: didn't say anything like I was very I took it

1136
01:05:07,760 --> 01:05:09,720
Speaker 1: very seriously. I was like, I didn't want to say

1137
01:05:09,760 --> 01:05:12,600
Speaker 1: anything outrageous. That was just like it was some product.

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01:05:12,600 --> 01:05:15,480
Speaker 1: It was some like carpet clean like rug cleaner, like

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01:05:15,680 --> 01:05:18,800
Speaker 1: rug shampooer. That and I was like I have, you know,

1140
01:05:18,920 --> 01:05:21,240
Speaker 1: four kids there in and out and it's great. We

1141
01:05:21,320 --> 01:05:24,400
Speaker 1: also have a fireplace and it just you wouldn't even

1142
01:05:24,480 --> 01:05:29,040
Speaker 1: know it. I love that. Amazing. Yeah, this is why,

1143
01:05:29,200 --> 01:05:32,320
Speaker 1: this is why this podcast exists for moments like that

1144
01:05:32,600 --> 01:05:36,680
Speaker 1: did for that, Oh my god, that was incredible. Oh

1145
01:05:36,760 --> 01:05:40,960
Speaker 1: my god, that's that's like, that's brave too. I was shaking,

1146
01:05:41,960 --> 01:05:44,000
Speaker 1: shaker that I was going to get caught that, like

1147
01:05:44,160 --> 01:05:46,760
Speaker 1: I was going to say something wrong, you know. That

1148
01:05:46,880 --> 01:05:49,880
Speaker 1: was that was like one of the first primordial tests

1149
01:05:50,040 --> 01:05:55,320
Speaker 1: for you as absolutely did you always perform? Um? Like

1150
01:05:56,200 --> 01:06:00,560
Speaker 1: there was this um traveling troop called Missoula Children's Theater. Oh,

1151
01:06:00,680 --> 01:06:02,480
Speaker 1: I think I've heard of them. It was like two

1152
01:06:02,560 --> 01:06:05,120
Speaker 1: actors that would put a show on in a week,

1153
01:06:05,960 --> 01:06:08,080
Speaker 1: um rehearse and then the shows would be on the

1154
01:06:08,160 --> 01:06:11,440
Speaker 1: weekends and um. Up until I was like twelve, I

1155
01:06:11,680 --> 01:06:14,760
Speaker 1: I did those shows every year. UM. And I would

1156
01:06:14,920 --> 01:06:18,520
Speaker 1: cry every time the act the professional actors left town

1157
01:06:19,320 --> 01:06:21,600
Speaker 1: because they became like a little I was like, there

1158
01:06:21,680 --> 01:06:24,080
Speaker 1: goes the only thing that made me happy all year,

1159
01:06:25,520 --> 01:06:28,000
Speaker 1: you know, And where are they now? Where are they

1160
01:06:28,040 --> 01:06:37,080
Speaker 1: now still doing it? Doing it still? Rapunzel Hansel and Gretel.

1161
01:06:37,960 --> 01:06:40,560
Speaker 1: I mean, and then you know community theater of course,

1162
01:06:40,800 --> 01:06:43,360
Speaker 1: high school theater. What role? Okay, have you talked about

1163
01:06:43,360 --> 01:06:46,720
Speaker 1: this in previously. I'm happy to rehash roles roles in

1164
01:06:46,840 --> 01:06:50,080
Speaker 1: high schools. See, I actually didn't perform until I was

1165
01:06:50,120 --> 01:06:52,920
Speaker 1: in college. Really yeah, I didn't. I didn't you show

1166
01:06:53,040 --> 01:06:56,800
Speaker 1: choir chuir nothing. I was very deeply in the closet

1167
01:06:57,080 --> 01:07:00,760
Speaker 1: and I did. I did track and feel across country.

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01:07:00,920 --> 01:07:02,520
Speaker 1: But this is the remark for you that man is

1169
01:07:02,600 --> 01:07:07,760
Speaker 1: that once that once he was liberated into that sphere. Uh,

1170
01:07:08,320 --> 01:07:12,120
Speaker 1: it's just this depth of knowledge just walked into place.

1171
01:07:12,240 --> 01:07:14,720
Speaker 1: I was always sitting there, like doing my research, like

1172
01:07:14,760 --> 01:07:16,800
Speaker 1: when I was, when I was, when I was closed.

1173
01:07:17,320 --> 01:07:18,880
Speaker 1: I don't even know how to describe that in like

1174
01:07:18,960 --> 01:07:21,240
Speaker 1: a cool way, but like I was never into like

1175
01:07:21,360 --> 01:07:24,120
Speaker 1: the second I got to be by myself, I was

1176
01:07:24,160 --> 01:07:26,800
Speaker 1: like listening to like Margaret Show's stand up albums. So

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01:07:26,880 --> 01:07:29,400
Speaker 1: it was like I was a single white female, like

1178
01:07:29,560 --> 01:07:32,560
Speaker 1: single white gay male, like like you were just wait,

1179
01:07:32,680 --> 01:07:35,520
Speaker 1: you were like stalking the version of yourself you wanted

1180
01:07:35,720 --> 01:07:38,400
Speaker 1: exactly exactly. I mean, like it was it was very

1181
01:07:38,560 --> 01:07:40,400
Speaker 1: that it was like you know, one day I'll be

1182
01:07:40,480 --> 01:07:43,080
Speaker 1: able to tell someone that I have this Sandra Bernhardt

1183
01:07:43,120 --> 01:07:48,480
Speaker 1: album memorized, but until then I can't be funny. Is

1184
01:07:48,800 --> 01:07:50,920
Speaker 1: the reason I came out is because I wanted to

1185
01:07:51,040 --> 01:07:57,320
Speaker 1: rent Queer as Folk from Hollywood Video um. And then

1186
01:07:57,520 --> 01:08:00,360
Speaker 1: I also wanted to buy Judy Garland's Carnegie Hall album,

1187
01:08:00,640 --> 01:08:02,600
Speaker 1: like I had other albums of hers. But I was like,

1188
01:08:02,960 --> 01:08:04,560
Speaker 1: for some reason in my head, I was like, if

1189
01:08:04,600 --> 01:08:08,320
Speaker 1: I buy the Carnegie Hall album, people will know I'm gay. Yeah,

1190
01:08:08,720 --> 01:08:10,320
Speaker 1: So I just have to come out and then I

1191
01:08:10,400 --> 01:08:13,000
Speaker 1: can get those two things. Yeah, and those kind of

1192
01:08:13,080 --> 01:08:16,560
Speaker 1: things like that doesn't go away. Like every now and

1193
01:08:16,640 --> 01:08:19,360
Speaker 1: then I'll just be like I'll find like this little

1194
01:08:19,439 --> 01:08:21,720
Speaker 1: creeping thing in my brain where it's like, oh, well,

1195
01:08:21,840 --> 01:08:24,800
Speaker 1: don't say that too gay to say right now, And

1196
01:08:24,880 --> 01:08:26,519
Speaker 1: it's like, oh wow, but that's what I want to say.

1197
01:08:26,520 --> 01:08:27,800
Speaker 1: And you know what, there are a lot of people

1198
01:08:27,800 --> 01:08:30,519
Speaker 1: who don't think at all like with that right that

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Speaker 1: that comes up for me, Like when I'm dealing with

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01:08:33,560 --> 01:08:37,639
Speaker 1: cashiers that are like straight guys, I find myself being like, nope,

1201
01:08:37,920 --> 01:08:45,200
Speaker 1: that's yet, deepening your voice normal, like as few syllables

1202
01:08:45,240 --> 01:08:49,880
Speaker 1: as possible, Like I call every straight man brother, thank you.

1203
01:08:50,479 --> 01:08:53,760
Speaker 1: It's really good to see your brother do it all

1204
01:08:53,800 --> 01:08:55,920
Speaker 1: the time. And you know what, I hate myself all

1205
01:08:55,960 --> 01:08:57,160
Speaker 1: the time. You know who I do it with all

1206
01:08:57,160 --> 01:09:01,320
Speaker 1: the time? Friend just In yea who I love. I've

1207
01:09:01,360 --> 01:09:03,680
Speaker 1: worked with for several years. And Cole's good friends with

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01:09:03,840 --> 01:09:07,439
Speaker 1: He's like a you know, beautiful straight boy and like

1209
01:09:07,720 --> 01:09:11,920
Speaker 1: he's become a good friend. Um, and I'll just be like, dude, bro,

1210
01:09:12,240 --> 01:09:15,080
Speaker 1: yeah that's you know what, that's a friend of the show.

1211
01:09:15,800 --> 01:09:18,040
Speaker 1: Friend of the show. Guy brandam His said of Matt Rodgers,

1212
01:09:18,120 --> 01:09:21,200
Speaker 1: he's a beautiful product of Long Island masculinity. But he's

1213
01:09:21,240 --> 01:09:24,800
Speaker 1: now the most the most musical theater of fags, which

1214
01:09:24,880 --> 01:09:27,040
Speaker 1: is just the entire art. I'll take it. It's always

1215
01:09:27,120 --> 01:09:29,760
Speaker 1: what I've always wanted to be. Yeah, you go, wow,

1216
01:09:30,240 --> 01:09:33,759
Speaker 1: I tried to get guys, but you did theater. Did theater?

1217
01:09:33,920 --> 01:09:36,599
Speaker 1: What were your roles? And I've I've I've watched through

1218
01:09:36,640 --> 01:09:40,240
Speaker 1: this before and it's very closely tied to the musical

1219
01:09:40,280 --> 01:09:43,799
Speaker 1: theater director at my high school was the dance teacher. Meanwhile,

1220
01:09:43,880 --> 01:09:46,000
Speaker 1: the straight plays were directed by the drama teacher. But

1221
01:09:46,040 --> 01:09:49,200
Speaker 1: the dance teacher came in every year, um and had

1222
01:09:49,200 --> 01:09:51,000
Speaker 1: a great relationship with her at first, but she had

1223
01:09:51,080 --> 01:09:55,040
Speaker 1: this image. She just thought I was this like huge

1224
01:09:56,280 --> 01:09:58,960
Speaker 1: diva because I made the mistake of freshman year when

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01:09:58,960 --> 01:10:01,120
Speaker 1: I auditioned for the musical, which was Once Upon a Mattress.

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01:10:01,200 --> 01:10:04,720
Speaker 1: You said only this role? Yeah, yep, I said, I

1227
01:10:04,800 --> 01:10:07,840
Speaker 1: said no understudy because I thought, like the first time

1228
01:10:07,960 --> 01:10:10,080
Speaker 1: editioning for anything, I was like, I don't want to write.

1229
01:10:10,200 --> 01:10:11,880
Speaker 1: I want to just show that I want to be

1230
01:10:11,960 --> 01:10:13,840
Speaker 1: a part of the actual cast. And I thought that

1231
01:10:13,960 --> 01:10:16,040
Speaker 1: was like a bad mark to say that you were

1232
01:10:16,080 --> 01:10:17,880
Speaker 1: willing to be an understand like I just did not

1233
01:10:18,080 --> 01:10:21,280
Speaker 1: have right the working knowledge to know what I was doing.

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01:10:21,600 --> 01:10:24,320
Speaker 1: A miscommunication exactly. And so she pulled me aside after

1235
01:10:24,400 --> 01:10:27,000
Speaker 1: the audition freshman year she was like, hey, so you know,

1236
01:10:27,120 --> 01:10:29,280
Speaker 1: and she explained it to me as well she could.

1237
01:10:29,320 --> 01:10:32,400
Speaker 1: But that stayed with her. And so then sophomore ye

1238
01:10:32,479 --> 01:10:37,040
Speaker 1: was crazy for you Gershman. Jake just did col cores

1239
01:10:37,080 --> 01:10:39,839
Speaker 1: part in that as well. And then junior year was Barnum,

1240
01:10:39,920 --> 01:10:42,760
Speaker 1: which is a ship show, like a terrible show, and

1241
01:10:43,040 --> 01:10:46,280
Speaker 1: um my IB program kicked into gear that that year,

1242
01:10:46,360 --> 01:10:50,639
Speaker 1: which is just this like intense academic thing like a classes. Sure. Yeah,

1243
01:10:50,680 --> 01:10:54,120
Speaker 1: and so uh, just she thought I wasn't committing enough

1244
01:10:54,120 --> 01:10:56,360
Speaker 1: to the show, asked me to leave. And then my

1245
01:10:56,520 --> 01:11:00,719
Speaker 1: choir teacher was like trying to like just rebuild that bridge. Wow,

1246
01:11:00,920 --> 01:11:02,320
Speaker 1: and he was like you should go and talk to her.

1247
01:11:02,360 --> 01:11:03,920
Speaker 1: And I was like okay, and I said us on

1248
01:11:03,960 --> 01:11:05,920
Speaker 1: Duel's episode. The onus was not on me as a

1249
01:11:05,960 --> 01:11:10,680
Speaker 1: seventeen year old. Nothing back. It was never right. It's

1250
01:11:10,720 --> 01:11:12,720
Speaker 1: completely the right way to deal with kids, right. No.

1251
01:11:12,840 --> 01:11:14,519
Speaker 1: And so then I had to like set up a

1252
01:11:14,560 --> 01:11:16,840
Speaker 1: meeting with her, sit down in her office, just you know,

1253
01:11:18,840 --> 01:11:23,479
Speaker 1: grovel basically, and she took that well. And then conveniently enough,

1254
01:11:24,240 --> 01:11:30,120
Speaker 1: senior year was and she passed away the office. She passed.

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01:11:30,880 --> 01:11:36,280
Speaker 1: It was anything goes, anything goes for you, father, I was, yeah, yep,

1256
01:11:36,520 --> 01:11:40,760
Speaker 1: I was. I was the Chinese Stoe and um it

1257
01:11:40,960 --> 01:11:44,920
Speaker 1: was awful. Wait he's he's he's the character Chinese well

1258
01:11:45,040 --> 01:11:48,439
Speaker 1: in so in certain adapt so in certain renditions, yeah,

1259
01:11:48,439 --> 01:11:52,080
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, I've never seen anything goes okay. Yeah,

1260
01:11:52,120 --> 01:11:54,320
Speaker 1: So so, um, I just know it's not the father,

1261
01:11:54,400 --> 01:11:57,000
Speaker 1: but I'm thinking of Burt Lar, the Joel Gray part

1262
01:11:57,120 --> 01:11:59,760
Speaker 1: right right now. So so Joel Gray's part. Yeah, So

1263
01:11:59,800 --> 01:12:05,320
Speaker 1: the other has these two Asian stow aways God, and

1264
01:12:05,439 --> 01:12:07,720
Speaker 1: just had to like just put on the accent and

1265
01:12:07,760 --> 01:12:10,439
Speaker 1: it was just the worst. That's just and that was

1266
01:12:10,560 --> 01:12:14,760
Speaker 1: like that was like my reward for making amends with her,

1267
01:12:14,840 --> 01:12:17,839
Speaker 1: and it was just still we're going back there tomorrow.

1268
01:12:18,760 --> 01:12:21,280
Speaker 1: Back there tomorrow, I me drills upus to two the artist.

1269
01:12:22,160 --> 01:12:25,600
Speaker 1: Isn't that crazy? Like I would have killed to just

1270
01:12:25,800 --> 01:12:30,600
Speaker 1: have like even had like just like a measure in

1271
01:12:30,800 --> 01:12:33,519
Speaker 1: a fucking song, you know. Like anyway the way that

1272
01:12:33,680 --> 01:12:36,680
Speaker 1: like they those teachers play politics with kids, it's like

1273
01:12:38,000 --> 01:12:40,080
Speaker 1: we get that your lives are like not always like

1274
01:12:40,200 --> 01:12:44,000
Speaker 1: as big as you wanted them to be, right this, Yeah, yeah,

1275
01:12:44,240 --> 01:12:46,360
Speaker 1: I get that you're running this like combustion engine of

1276
01:12:46,439 --> 01:12:50,960
Speaker 1: like ambition and whatever for kids, and like you want

1277
01:12:50,960 --> 01:12:54,240
Speaker 1: to like get that started early. But like the way

1278
01:12:54,280 --> 01:12:57,600
Speaker 1: that it was specifically and I'm just not acting at

1279
01:12:57,640 --> 01:13:00,799
Speaker 1: the victim here, but like just was totally it's supposed

1280
01:13:00,800 --> 01:13:02,880
Speaker 1: to be fun. Now I'm supposed to know what. It's

1281
01:13:02,920 --> 01:13:10,679
Speaker 1: show business. It's not fun friendship, it's busy. I actually

1282
01:13:10,880 --> 01:13:13,639
Speaker 1: now now that I remember, I did do one play

1283
01:13:13,720 --> 01:13:15,880
Speaker 1: when I was in sixth grade, so and it was

1284
01:13:15,960 --> 01:13:17,519
Speaker 1: like a lot of people did it. It wasn't this

1285
01:13:17,600 --> 01:13:20,200
Speaker 1: thing where I'm like, I'm interested in the arts. It

1286
01:13:20,360 --> 01:13:22,960
Speaker 1: was like we're all doing this. Um so I played

1287
01:13:23,000 --> 01:13:28,320
Speaker 1: like a pirate in Peter Pan and um this girl

1288
01:13:28,680 --> 01:13:31,160
Speaker 1: Alicia one day, who I had been really good friends

1289
01:13:31,160 --> 01:13:32,720
Speaker 1: with him, he had messed around a lot, because that's

1290
01:13:32,720 --> 01:13:34,880
Speaker 1: what all It was like us messing around, like kind

1291
01:13:34,880 --> 01:13:37,040
Speaker 1: of being on our places, kind of knowing our lines, whatever.

1292
01:13:37,479 --> 01:13:39,160
Speaker 1: And one day she turned to me and she said,

1293
01:13:39,360 --> 01:13:42,120
Speaker 1: you don't take this seriously. And honestly, I don't want

1294
01:13:42,160 --> 01:13:44,800
Speaker 1: to be associated with someone who's not taking this seriously.

1295
01:13:45,120 --> 01:13:47,800
Speaker 1: And if you don't take theater seriously, then you really

1296
01:13:47,800 --> 01:13:51,720
Speaker 1: shouldn't be in theater club and you probably should quite

1297
01:13:52,160 --> 01:13:57,120
Speaker 1: bring her up. I don't know. But the thing is like,

1298
01:13:57,240 --> 01:14:00,280
Speaker 1: it's just funny now that I did that show at

1299
01:14:00,320 --> 01:14:04,160
Speaker 1: that moment, did because I was like, oh wow, I'm

1300
01:14:05,800 --> 01:14:08,520
Speaker 1: so panicked in a way that she doesn't even understand.

1301
01:14:09,120 --> 01:14:10,479
Speaker 1: And for her to come for me in this way,

1302
01:14:10,560 --> 01:14:12,120
Speaker 1: like it was so much for me to even have

1303
01:14:12,320 --> 01:14:14,160
Speaker 1: friends and be there, and for her to come from

1304
01:14:14,200 --> 01:14:17,080
Speaker 1: me in this way, it's like so crazy. Oh my god,

1305
01:14:17,120 --> 01:14:22,120
Speaker 1: you're crying having such a hard time living. Waitum, speaking

1306
01:14:22,160 --> 01:14:25,120
Speaker 1: of moments, this is just one addendem alad to this whole.

1307
01:14:25,560 --> 01:14:27,679
Speaker 1: Her name was miss Wed, the dance teacher. Miss Wed saga.

1308
01:14:28,160 --> 01:14:31,000
Speaker 1: My moment for me that that's like, that is um

1309
01:14:31,120 --> 01:14:34,720
Speaker 1: I approached her. I approached her junior year, and I

1310
01:14:34,840 --> 01:14:38,040
Speaker 1: was like a little salty about still getting a course

1311
01:14:38,120 --> 01:14:40,719
Speaker 1: part which is a little bit, which was a little division.

1312
01:14:40,720 --> 01:14:42,880
Speaker 1: I'm sure it was more salty than you're remembering too,

1313
01:14:43,120 --> 01:14:46,519
Speaker 1: but sure so. Then I so then so then like

1314
01:14:46,760 --> 01:14:48,559
Speaker 1: she had like pulled me aside and wanted to talk

1315
01:14:48,600 --> 01:14:49,720
Speaker 1: to me about it. She was like, I don't know

1316
01:14:49,760 --> 01:14:52,320
Speaker 1: if your attitudes right, and again again this is monstrous

1317
01:14:52,360 --> 01:14:55,559
Speaker 1: of her. But then the moment was she this, uh,

1318
01:14:55,640 --> 01:14:58,880
Speaker 1: this other kid, Brian Black was there. He's this great performer.

1319
01:14:58,880 --> 01:15:01,479
Speaker 1: I think he's still acting. Now. She goes, the reason

1320
01:15:01,800 --> 01:15:05,080
Speaker 1: you're I can't believe she said this. The reason you're

1321
01:15:05,120 --> 01:15:08,080
Speaker 1: in a correst roll is because and she points to Brian.

1322
01:15:08,200 --> 01:15:10,720
Speaker 1: She goes, because he is able to go into the

1323
01:15:10,760 --> 01:15:13,920
Speaker 1: audition room and be a polished performer and you still

1324
01:15:13,960 --> 01:15:16,519
Speaker 1: need to figure that out. Oh my god. And I

1325
01:15:16,640 --> 01:15:23,839
Speaker 1: was like, you're like literally a baby. I'm sixteen anyway.

1326
01:15:23,920 --> 01:15:26,920
Speaker 1: Cole High School rules for you, I mean theater rules

1327
01:15:26,960 --> 01:15:31,960
Speaker 1: for yes, that just you know Marius Seymour, Marius is great,

1328
01:15:32,240 --> 01:15:34,720
Speaker 1: Matt and the Fantastics. I was the only like guy

1329
01:15:34,960 --> 01:15:39,320
Speaker 1: that did theater that could sing Yeah, but I didn't

1330
01:15:39,320 --> 01:15:40,800
Speaker 1: want to play I wanted you know, I wanted to

1331
01:15:40,840 --> 01:15:48,760
Speaker 1: play that character. Yeah exactly, Yeah, I mean, yeah, that's

1332
01:15:48,800 --> 01:15:52,640
Speaker 1: what a fun what a fun little stroll nugget. Can

1333
01:15:52,720 --> 01:15:54,920
Speaker 1: we talk quickly about big Little Lies because you guys,

1334
01:15:55,240 --> 01:15:57,120
Speaker 1: this is going to be the first step. By the

1335
01:15:57,200 --> 01:15:59,160
Speaker 1: time you guys hear this, big Little Eyes will be over.

1336
01:15:59,840 --> 01:16:04,920
Speaker 1: But it's given me my entire life. Yeah. Yeah, I've

1337
01:16:04,960 --> 01:16:07,920
Speaker 1: seen only seen the first two, but you guys, oh

1338
01:16:07,960 --> 01:16:10,720
Speaker 1: my god. So it's it took it took a long

1339
01:16:10,760 --> 01:16:11,880
Speaker 1: time for me to get on board with it, but

1340
01:16:11,920 --> 01:16:14,080
Speaker 1: I'm fully on board. I think about it. I thought

1341
01:16:14,080 --> 01:16:17,400
Speaker 1: about it a lot today. Reason is like very much,

1342
01:16:17,640 --> 01:16:24,200
Speaker 1: my my, my, my spirit guide. She's she's back. She's back.

1343
01:16:24,800 --> 01:16:26,920
Speaker 1: Producer Alex and I were talking about this earlier. It's

1344
01:16:27,040 --> 01:16:29,120
Speaker 1: he thinks it's her best performance. I think it's maybe

1345
01:16:29,200 --> 01:16:31,080
Speaker 1: her best performance in her career. And that is saying

1346
01:16:31,200 --> 01:16:34,080
Speaker 1: something when you actually take a second to remember that

1347
01:16:34,280 --> 01:16:38,080
Speaker 1: she's giving you some gold. This is this is coming,

1348
01:16:38,240 --> 01:16:41,080
Speaker 1: this is stacking up. Yeah, this is like beating out

1349
01:16:41,320 --> 01:16:45,280
Speaker 1: fucking Tracy, you know, and and and because it's it's

1350
01:16:45,400 --> 01:16:48,560
Speaker 1: like all of her most iconic roles literally rolled in.

1351
01:16:48,760 --> 01:16:51,200
Speaker 1: It's like Tracy flicking Ellwood's if they had like grown up.

1352
01:16:51,439 --> 01:16:55,360
Speaker 1: It's like that like determination to to get whatever she

1353
01:16:55,520 --> 01:17:00,240
Speaker 1: wants of Tracy Flick. It's that like um privileged send

1354
01:17:00,360 --> 01:17:05,439
Speaker 1: like bitching. It's like of l Woods. And there's this

1355
01:17:05,640 --> 01:17:08,840
Speaker 1: like like really like the shades of darkness she kind

1356
01:17:08,840 --> 01:17:12,920
Speaker 1: of and then like and then like honestly, her like

1357
01:17:13,280 --> 01:17:16,120
Speaker 1: regional specificity is pretty on point too. I guess you

1358
01:17:16,160 --> 01:17:18,040
Speaker 1: could point that to walk the line, but like you

1359
01:17:18,160 --> 01:17:21,960
Speaker 1: just believe it so much regional specificity, that's what we

1360
01:17:22,040 --> 01:17:25,960
Speaker 1: wanted an actor. I'm sorry, We're going with someone with

1361
01:17:26,040 --> 01:17:31,640
Speaker 1: a little more regional specificity. Absolutely, and I literally I

1362
01:17:31,800 --> 01:17:35,320
Speaker 1: don't mean more than exactly that, no, I know, yeah, yeah,

1363
01:17:35,439 --> 01:17:38,120
Speaker 1: but I love that, like like she you just weren't

1364
01:17:38,120 --> 01:17:40,880
Speaker 1: a regionally specifically other people. That's like a real way

1365
01:17:40,920 --> 01:17:47,000
Speaker 1: to dance around. But I I fucking love Reese. I mean,

1366
01:17:47,479 --> 01:17:51,320
Speaker 1: there's a monologue in episode six. Oh it's because you

1367
01:17:51,400 --> 01:17:54,040
Speaker 1: just see it. It's the monologue she gives to her daughter.

1368
01:17:54,080 --> 01:17:55,840
Speaker 1: I can tell you how she's made a mistake. I

1369
01:17:55,960 --> 01:17:58,120
Speaker 1: was like in it, I was like, you're going to live.

1370
01:17:58,240 --> 01:18:00,280
Speaker 1: I was about to fork some pad time in my

1371
01:18:00,400 --> 01:18:02,760
Speaker 1: mouth and then she starts the model when you put

1372
01:18:02,800 --> 01:18:05,719
Speaker 1: it down, I just froze. I was like, I cried

1373
01:18:06,680 --> 01:18:09,759
Speaker 1: and just mouth a gape. Was like, oh my god.

1374
01:18:09,920 --> 01:18:11,760
Speaker 1: It was some of the best things I've ever seen.

1375
01:18:12,000 --> 01:18:13,680
Speaker 1: Do you have to eat while you watch TV? I

1376
01:18:13,800 --> 01:18:16,120
Speaker 1: have to eat while I watched TV. Well, I'm usually

1377
01:18:17,439 --> 01:18:19,760
Speaker 1: I'm enjoying myself, so it's like, yeah, I mean, I

1378
01:18:19,880 --> 01:18:22,880
Speaker 1: feel like I can't enjoy television or food unless they're together.

1379
01:18:24,000 --> 01:18:27,080
Speaker 1: Like when when when it comes on? Like this past weekend,

1380
01:18:27,120 --> 01:18:29,040
Speaker 1: I was I looked at the clock and it was

1381
01:18:29,520 --> 01:18:31,200
Speaker 1: fifty and I was like, oh my god, I haven't

1382
01:18:31,280 --> 01:18:33,519
Speaker 1: heated anything up. But I was like frantic that I

1383
01:18:33,600 --> 01:18:36,960
Speaker 1: needed to have food in front of me in time.

1384
01:18:37,120 --> 01:18:41,880
Speaker 1: That was opening credits. Yeah, it's so true. It's so true.

1385
01:18:41,960 --> 01:18:44,360
Speaker 1: I feel like, is that specific to our region? Do

1386
01:18:44,439 --> 01:18:52,639
Speaker 1: you think? Honestly? The title of the episode of regional specificity? Um, so, basically, wait,

1387
01:18:53,040 --> 01:18:54,920
Speaker 1: do you eat when you're in the movie? Theater, though

1388
01:18:55,200 --> 01:18:58,200
Speaker 1: I almost always get popping corn no, because then all

1389
01:18:58,280 --> 01:19:01,000
Speaker 1: I can think about is the popcorn. I can't really

1390
01:19:01,040 --> 01:19:04,000
Speaker 1: focus with that. It's just like I love well, I'm worried.

1391
01:19:04,320 --> 01:19:08,000
Speaker 1: It's do you ever hear Jacqueline Novak's like um um

1392
01:19:08,240 --> 01:19:13,280
Speaker 1: routine about sharing pizza because she's just like got her

1393
01:19:13,320 --> 01:19:16,680
Speaker 1: eye on, like how many pieces? Everyone's happy. All I'm

1394
01:19:16,720 --> 01:19:19,639
Speaker 1: thinking about is like, is there going to be popcorn

1395
01:19:19,720 --> 01:19:21,760
Speaker 1: when I want it? Or is like someone else going

1396
01:19:21,800 --> 01:19:24,599
Speaker 1: to finish? And always yeah, But then if you get

1397
01:19:24,680 --> 01:19:27,640
Speaker 1: your own often what happens is like someone will be like, no,

1398
01:19:27,720 --> 01:19:29,479
Speaker 1: I don't want any, and then you get popcorn, and

1399
01:19:29,520 --> 01:19:34,120
Speaker 1: then they're like reaching over. Matt's the person getting the popcorn.

1400
01:19:34,120 --> 01:19:36,559
Speaker 1: I'm the person who says he doesn't need it. Yeah,

1401
01:19:36,640 --> 01:19:38,160
Speaker 1: and then and then you eat it, and then you

1402
01:19:38,520 --> 01:19:40,800
Speaker 1: get I mean, we're about to go see Power Rangers tonight,

1403
01:19:40,840 --> 01:19:43,840
Speaker 1: and I will get myself. I'm getting biggest soda. You're

1404
01:19:43,840 --> 01:19:46,320
Speaker 1: getting my own food tonight. Don't worry. But Matt does

1405
01:19:46,360 --> 01:19:48,840
Speaker 1: a very bad job of hiding his spite, which is

1406
01:19:48,920 --> 01:19:52,519
Speaker 1: I don't play an I'm not a good share me neither.

1407
01:19:53,240 --> 01:19:55,800
Speaker 1: I'm making share with Henry but I'm not a good

1408
01:19:55,840 --> 01:19:58,040
Speaker 1: share with anyone. I'm not a good share with anyone,

1409
01:19:58,240 --> 01:20:00,439
Speaker 1: even people that I'm in love with. There you go,

1410
01:20:01,280 --> 01:20:05,439
Speaker 1: I have yeah. Yeah, do you have siblings too? I

1411
01:20:05,520 --> 01:20:07,600
Speaker 1: always had to share with my brother and now that

1412
01:20:07,880 --> 01:20:10,519
Speaker 1: younger brother. Yeah okay, so yeah, So did you always

1413
01:20:10,520 --> 01:20:13,400
Speaker 1: win the games that you would play? No? See we we.

1414
01:20:13,560 --> 01:20:15,200
Speaker 1: Chelsea and I played pretend all the time, and I

1415
01:20:15,200 --> 01:20:17,759
Speaker 1: would always win. I was like that kind of desertion.

1416
01:20:18,360 --> 01:20:22,240
Speaker 1: I was the kid who always got more as the

1417
01:20:22,320 --> 01:20:25,479
Speaker 1: younger child, and my sister sort of just built up this.

1418
01:20:26,160 --> 01:20:29,400
Speaker 1: Just internalize that a lot. Um. That's really interesting. But

1419
01:20:29,960 --> 01:20:32,360
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna ask you about movies versus watching TV.

1420
01:20:32,920 --> 01:20:34,680
Speaker 1: Is it an environmental thing or is it? Does it

1421
01:20:34,800 --> 01:20:37,519
Speaker 1: have to do with the food. It's just environmental, Like

1422
01:20:37,640 --> 01:20:39,640
Speaker 1: I if I watch a movie at home, then I

1423
01:20:39,840 --> 01:20:42,280
Speaker 1: also enjoy eating during that. But if someone else is

1424
01:20:42,320 --> 01:20:44,800
Speaker 1: there with you, like, are you worried about someone reaching

1425
01:20:44,840 --> 01:20:48,880
Speaker 1: over for the bowl of like or something. I don't

1426
01:20:48,920 --> 01:20:52,080
Speaker 1: like watching things with other people. Great, Yeah I feel

1427
01:20:52,120 --> 01:20:54,360
Speaker 1: the same way. Yeah, Like when people are like I

1428
01:20:54,439 --> 01:20:56,960
Speaker 1: love watching RuPaul's Drag Grace and a bar full of Gaze,

1429
01:20:57,040 --> 01:21:00,640
Speaker 1: I'm like, no, yeah, I don't prefer you. Well I can.

1430
01:21:01,439 --> 01:21:03,439
Speaker 1: I get, I respect and get why people say that

1431
01:21:03,760 --> 01:21:07,960
Speaker 1: I have the receipts. I think you've been quoted saying

1432
01:21:08,160 --> 01:21:10,679
Speaker 1: that you don't like to go to bars. I don't

1433
01:21:10,760 --> 01:21:12,240
Speaker 1: prefer to go to bars, or that you don't like

1434
01:21:12,320 --> 01:21:14,639
Speaker 1: it's not it's fun watching it alone. No, that's you're

1435
01:21:14,680 --> 01:21:18,040
Speaker 1: thinking of Joel. But you agree emphatically agreed with him.

1436
01:21:18,479 --> 01:21:20,640
Speaker 1: I think that I think that there are benefits to

1437
01:21:20,720 --> 01:21:24,160
Speaker 1: watching it with everyone, but also the I also said,

1438
01:21:24,960 --> 01:21:27,040
Speaker 1: and this is true. I mean, routinely, I'll just watch

1439
01:21:27,160 --> 01:21:29,439
Speaker 1: RuPaul's Draggers every episode like three or four times, so

1440
01:21:29,560 --> 01:21:32,439
Speaker 1: watching one set of bar because everyone's there, once probably

1441
01:21:32,479 --> 01:21:35,240
Speaker 1: with Henry, once by myself, and then once later on

1442
01:21:35,320 --> 01:21:37,000
Speaker 1: in the week when someone says they haven't seen it,

1443
01:21:37,080 --> 01:21:38,800
Speaker 1: and I stop everything and what we're doing, and we

1444
01:21:38,840 --> 01:21:40,519
Speaker 1: watch it, you know what I mean. And it's fine.

1445
01:21:40,640 --> 01:21:43,040
Speaker 1: It's fun for me every ting. Okay, I'm speaking of

1446
01:21:43,080 --> 01:21:46,120
Speaker 1: RuPauls Cole. You watching this season. I haven't watched this

1447
01:21:46,479 --> 01:21:48,800
Speaker 1: last episode because wait, is it online? Now? You can

1448
01:21:48,840 --> 01:21:51,280
Speaker 1: watch it online? Well, this is like a controversy now

1449
01:21:51,360 --> 01:21:53,000
Speaker 1: because it used to be you could stream it right

1450
01:21:53,040 --> 01:21:56,240
Speaker 1: after on Logo TV dot com, but now it's airing

1451
01:21:56,280 --> 01:21:59,400
Speaker 1: on one. So do you have Amazon Prime? No? But

1452
01:22:00,080 --> 01:22:02,120
Speaker 1: yeah I do, so then just maybe by this season.

1453
01:22:02,400 --> 01:22:05,000
Speaker 1: Oh but I also have Slings, so I have v

1454
01:22:05,160 --> 01:22:07,559
Speaker 1: H one, but I can only watch it live, right,

1455
01:22:07,720 --> 01:22:09,720
Speaker 1: so you're gonna I think. What's happening is they're doing

1456
01:22:09,800 --> 01:22:11,839
Speaker 1: the new episodes on v H one and the reruns

1457
01:22:11,880 --> 01:22:14,479
Speaker 1: are airing on Logo. Okay, oh so maybe I can

1458
01:22:14,560 --> 01:22:17,080
Speaker 1: catch on Logo. I don't know if I have a Logo.

1459
01:22:17,640 --> 01:22:19,400
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's all as it used to be

1460
01:22:19,520 --> 01:22:21,599
Speaker 1: so easy because it would be on Logo TV dot com,

1461
01:22:21,680 --> 01:22:26,920
Speaker 1: but now it's not. Yeah, maybe it's on Netflix. It's not.

1462
01:22:27,160 --> 01:22:29,120
Speaker 1: It's not. Definitely gonna know. They should do a better

1463
01:22:29,200 --> 01:22:32,680
Speaker 1: job of getting out there. It's on fucking Friday nights now,

1464
01:22:33,040 --> 01:22:35,760
Speaker 1: a time of recording. Guys. Um, we're only after, we're

1465
01:22:35,800 --> 01:22:38,280
Speaker 1: only pasted the first episode, one episode, and you know

1466
01:22:38,439 --> 01:22:41,360
Speaker 1: we'll see hopefully, hopefully it's it's promising. Okay, let's me watch.

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01:22:41,400 --> 01:22:43,200
Speaker 1: I don't think so, let's do a I don't think so, honey,

1468
01:22:43,240 --> 01:22:45,519
Speaker 1: So here we go. Um, first of all, you guys,

1469
01:22:45,680 --> 01:22:49,000
Speaker 1: thank you for making the live show. I don't think so, honey.

1470
01:22:49,479 --> 01:22:51,920
Speaker 1: Umscot Races Live at Little Field such a success. It

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01:22:52,040 --> 01:22:54,240
Speaker 1: was so fun. There was so many people there. It

1472
01:22:54,400 --> 01:22:58,600
Speaker 1: was it was I did it was so fun that,

1473
01:22:59,080 --> 01:23:03,479
Speaker 1: you know, with all those fucking it was fifty fucking comedians. Yeah,

1474
01:23:03,720 --> 01:23:05,439
Speaker 1: it was a real blast. And I mean being in

1475
01:23:05,520 --> 01:23:07,679
Speaker 1: the back in the back room and just like really

1476
01:23:07,800 --> 01:23:10,880
Speaker 1: feel realizing who all was there. It was just very cool.

1477
01:23:11,240 --> 01:23:13,000
Speaker 1: It was. It was a great So thanks guys for

1478
01:23:13,080 --> 01:23:14,720
Speaker 1: coming out to that. And also you can listen to

1479
01:23:14,920 --> 01:23:18,600
Speaker 1: the live episodes on iTunes and all the platforms that

1480
01:23:18,640 --> 01:23:21,880
Speaker 1: were on and you know, like in subscribe and all that. Uh, guys,

1481
01:23:21,960 --> 01:23:24,200
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. Is sixty seconds to rail

1482
01:23:24,240 --> 01:23:26,760
Speaker 1: against something in culture that's you know, just we feel,

1483
01:23:27,479 --> 01:23:31,240
Speaker 1: you know, just offending us and it's our time to

1484
01:23:31,600 --> 01:23:34,200
Speaker 1: get it back, take back the narrative on these things.

1485
01:23:34,360 --> 01:23:36,760
Speaker 1: And so, um, what do you think bone, Do you

1486
01:23:36,760 --> 01:23:38,719
Speaker 1: want to go first or first? Do you have something prepared?

1487
01:23:39,000 --> 01:23:41,559
Speaker 1: I have something loosely prepared, Okay, I have something kind

1488
01:23:41,600 --> 01:23:44,000
Speaker 1: of specific prepared. Okay, let's go. So this is Bowen

1489
01:23:44,120 --> 01:23:45,960
Speaker 1: Yang's I don't think so, honey, and his time starts

1490
01:23:46,080 --> 01:23:47,760
Speaker 1: right now. I don't think so many standpipes on the

1491
01:23:47,800 --> 01:23:50,280
Speaker 1: fucking sidewalks of New York City, Honey. I was walking

1492
01:23:50,320 --> 01:23:52,560
Speaker 1: down Lafayette. A man was barreling towards me, so I

1493
01:23:52,720 --> 01:23:54,600
Speaker 1: side stepped him so that he could get out of

1494
01:23:54,600 --> 01:23:57,240
Speaker 1: his way. And as I side stepped him and stepped forward,

1495
01:23:57,280 --> 01:23:59,840
Speaker 1: I grazed my shin on a standpipe and it cut

1496
01:24:00,000 --> 01:24:02,920
Speaker 1: to my jeans and I had a sort of it

1497
01:24:03,120 --> 01:24:05,840
Speaker 1: scratched me and slashed me pretty deeply. Oh God, So

1498
01:24:06,080 --> 01:24:08,160
Speaker 1: I spend the whole trade riding home with a fucking

1499
01:24:08,680 --> 01:24:11,240
Speaker 1: open torn gene like, honey, I don't think so, honey.

1500
01:24:11,400 --> 01:24:13,240
Speaker 1: And I thought I had tetanus, bitch, and I had

1501
01:24:13,240 --> 01:24:15,400
Speaker 1: a scheduled doctor's appointment and I had to go and

1502
01:24:15,479 --> 01:24:17,639
Speaker 1: the doctor visually diagnosed me and looking in the eyes

1503
01:24:17,680 --> 01:24:19,240
Speaker 1: and talk to me like it was a fucking idiot

1504
01:24:19,280 --> 01:24:20,840
Speaker 1: and said, no, you don't have tetanus. It has to

1505
01:24:20,840 --> 01:24:22,120
Speaker 1: be a deeper wound than that. And so I don't

1506
01:24:22,120 --> 01:24:24,400
Speaker 1: think so, honey. Stampipes are making me feel like like

1507
01:24:24,479 --> 01:24:27,000
Speaker 1: a like a stupid hypochondrias. I don't think so, honey,

1508
01:24:27,040 --> 01:24:30,400
Speaker 1: Miney doctors just being very condescending with their visual diagnoses,

1509
01:24:30,520 --> 01:24:32,360
Speaker 1: because can they really be a hundred percent sure. I

1510
01:24:32,400 --> 01:24:34,240
Speaker 1: don't think so honey. I don't think so honey doctors

1511
01:24:34,280 --> 01:24:37,600
Speaker 1: who think that their eyes are a fucking assay of

1512
01:24:37,920 --> 01:24:40,240
Speaker 1: a condition. Because I don't think so honey, you do not.

1513
01:24:40,439 --> 01:24:42,640
Speaker 1: You did not. I don't care if you sings. I

1514
01:24:42,640 --> 01:24:44,320
Speaker 1: don't think so honey. Stampipes on the sidebouck of New

1515
01:24:44,360 --> 01:24:46,240
Speaker 1: York City. I don't think so honey for hurting me

1516
01:24:46,320 --> 01:24:50,240
Speaker 1: and my reputation in the in the medical community. Don't think. Wow,

1517
01:24:50,760 --> 01:24:52,680
Speaker 1: that was loaded. You had something to say. I had

1518
01:24:52,680 --> 01:24:54,360
Speaker 1: a lot of messages there, and you know what, I think,

1519
01:24:54,360 --> 01:24:57,760
Speaker 1: I kneled all of them. Nothing better than feeling good

1520
01:24:57,800 --> 01:25:00,800
Speaker 1: about the way you've spoken out. And I got a

1521
01:25:00,840 --> 01:25:02,880
Speaker 1: little more, got a little marble mounts at the end.

1522
01:25:02,960 --> 01:25:04,640
Speaker 1: But that's okay. I just want to say, originally I

1523
01:25:04,720 --> 01:25:06,280
Speaker 1: was gonna do my I don't think so honey about

1524
01:25:06,280 --> 01:25:08,800
Speaker 1: Sunset Boulevard. Let's just say this right now up front.

1525
01:25:08,800 --> 01:25:11,760
Speaker 1: I've changed my mind. Um, but I don't think so

1526
01:25:11,920 --> 01:25:15,200
Speaker 1: honey Sunset Boulevard. It's not actually a good show. Glen

1527
01:25:15,320 --> 01:25:17,880
Speaker 1: Close is good in it, but Andrew led Weber. I'm sorry, honey,

1528
01:25:17,920 --> 01:25:21,160
Speaker 1: You're sorry. I was kind of a mess. Okay, but

1529
01:25:21,200 --> 01:25:22,960
Speaker 1: I have I don't think so, honey. Okay, this is

1530
01:25:23,000 --> 01:25:25,040
Speaker 1: Matt Rodgers. I don't think so, honey. One minute, time

1531
01:25:25,080 --> 01:25:28,280
Speaker 1: starts now. I don't think so, honey. Myself. Today it

1532
01:25:28,439 --> 01:25:30,719
Speaker 1: is Tuesday. You went to lunch in order to plenty

1533
01:25:30,800 --> 01:25:32,920
Speaker 1: Mary's that we're ten dollars each. You don't have the

1534
01:25:33,040 --> 01:25:35,640
Speaker 1: money for that, bitch. I don't think so, honey. And

1535
01:25:35,720 --> 01:25:37,960
Speaker 1: well then you got immediately home and smoke. We didn't

1536
01:25:37,960 --> 01:25:39,960
Speaker 1: play video games. Bitch. You're on a deadline and you

1537
01:25:40,120 --> 01:25:42,760
Speaker 1: know this. I don't think so, honey. Bitch, you have

1538
01:25:42,920 --> 01:25:45,040
Speaker 1: gone out to eat so many times in the past

1539
01:25:45,120 --> 01:25:47,639
Speaker 1: four days. And I know your anniversary to your boyfriend

1540
01:25:47,680 --> 01:25:49,760
Speaker 1: Henry of two years was two days ago. But bitch,

1541
01:25:50,080 --> 01:25:53,680
Speaker 1: stop celebrating yourself. You're just elongating this and you're just

1542
01:25:53,800 --> 01:25:55,920
Speaker 1: hurting yourself. Bitch. I don't think so, honey. I know

1543
01:25:56,040 --> 01:25:59,600
Speaker 1: that food is good, but you know what, take some

1544
01:25:59,720 --> 01:26:02,040
Speaker 1: of your time, take some of your energy, use it

1545
01:26:02,160 --> 01:26:05,280
Speaker 1: towards creating an accruing more money so you can go

1546
01:26:05,320 --> 01:26:07,960
Speaker 1: out for a nice dinner other times spread throughout the week.

1547
01:26:08,040 --> 01:26:10,920
Speaker 1: Because guess what, bitch, A when you go out for

1548
01:26:11,000 --> 01:26:13,320
Speaker 1: a nice dinner and the food is good, it doesn't.

1549
01:26:13,360 --> 01:26:16,200
Speaker 1: It loses its meaning after this amount of volume times,

1550
01:26:16,479 --> 01:26:18,880
Speaker 1: so just do it for yourself. Also, be bitch again

1551
01:26:18,960 --> 01:26:21,280
Speaker 1: you do not have the money. You have less in

1552
01:26:21,320 --> 01:26:24,200
Speaker 1: your bank account, and bitch, you need to be more frugal, bitch.

1553
01:26:24,520 --> 01:26:33,599
Speaker 1: Fruit hashtag frugal bitch, that's what frugal bitch. That's historic.

1554
01:26:33,840 --> 01:26:36,400
Speaker 1: Never hasn't. I don't think so, honey, been um, Has

1555
01:26:36,439 --> 01:26:41,000
Speaker 1: there been an auto? I don't think. In an introspective,

1556
01:26:41,000 --> 01:26:43,040
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey, Cole, are you ready? I

1557
01:26:43,160 --> 01:26:46,040
Speaker 1: think so? Okay, all right, this is Cole of Schless.

1558
01:26:46,040 --> 01:26:48,080
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. One minute on the clock,

1559
01:26:48,840 --> 01:26:54,920
Speaker 1: Matt sneezing, alright, I don't think so, honey, time starts now.

1560
01:26:55,160 --> 01:26:58,920
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. The writer's strike w g

1561
01:26:59,120 --> 01:27:02,720
Speaker 1: A writer's strike. Look, I'm all four unions. I saw

1562
01:27:02,800 --> 01:27:06,880
Speaker 1: sally Field and Glass Menagerie, Norma Ray Unions. Yes, yes, yes,

1563
01:27:07,160 --> 01:27:09,439
Speaker 1: but whoever they're striking against. And frankly, it's not my

1564
01:27:09,560 --> 01:27:11,840
Speaker 1: job to figure that out. Go on Twitter figure it out.

1565
01:27:12,240 --> 01:27:14,560
Speaker 1: But the w g A, I got my notes in

1566
01:27:14,640 --> 01:27:18,120
Speaker 1: front of me. They're they're looking for streaming media residuals,

1567
01:27:18,400 --> 01:27:20,479
Speaker 1: and and changes to pension and health plans. And now

1568
01:27:20,520 --> 01:27:21,840
Speaker 1: there's going to be a strike. Will let me tell

1569
01:27:21,840 --> 01:27:23,639
Speaker 1: you what happened the last time there was a writer strike.

1570
01:27:23,760 --> 01:27:26,360
Speaker 1: Last time there was a writer strike, reality TV came

1571
01:27:26,400 --> 01:27:29,479
Speaker 1: into fashion. What happened with reality tv? Donald Trump? Do

1572
01:27:29,520 --> 01:27:32,960
Speaker 1: you know who's our president? President? Now? I don't. That's

1573
01:27:33,080 --> 01:27:36,240
Speaker 1: not that's not a rhetorical question. It's not up to

1574
01:27:36,320 --> 01:27:40,519
Speaker 1: me to know. No, no, So I don't think so, honey,

1575
01:27:41,080 --> 01:27:43,479
Speaker 1: writers strike. It needs to get figured out. And I mean,

1576
01:27:43,600 --> 01:27:46,759
Speaker 1: like too sweet, because bitch, I will run for office

1577
01:27:47,000 --> 01:27:49,320
Speaker 1: and I will run as a Republican and I will

1578
01:27:49,400 --> 01:27:52,599
Speaker 1: win and I will got this fucking country. I don't

1579
01:27:52,880 --> 01:27:56,120
Speaker 1: think so, honey. And that's one minute. I would vote

1580
01:27:56,160 --> 01:27:59,120
Speaker 1: for you in a hard bank, would not vote down

1581
01:27:59,200 --> 01:28:02,400
Speaker 1: party log party lines. I would jump ship from my

1582
01:28:02,520 --> 01:28:07,360
Speaker 1: low point to oh my god. Honestly, I'm scared about

1583
01:28:07,400 --> 01:28:11,479
Speaker 1: the writer strike because we're such a good I mean,

1584
01:28:11,560 --> 01:28:14,160
Speaker 1: like but also like if they have good points, then

1585
01:28:14,400 --> 01:28:18,120
Speaker 1: they do. But like who it's the I think everyone

1586
01:28:18,160 --> 01:28:21,320
Speaker 1: should just tweet at like whoever it is. They're striking

1587
01:28:22,120 --> 01:28:25,200
Speaker 1: against what they want, they deserve it, just give it

1588
01:28:25,280 --> 01:28:29,360
Speaker 1: to them it's like the association of of of assholes,

1589
01:28:29,520 --> 01:28:35,480
Speaker 1: assass holes of the Alliance of Motion Picture and Television Producers.

1590
01:28:35,840 --> 01:28:40,880
Speaker 1: So go on Twitter at a m P t h P,

1591
01:28:41,520 --> 01:28:43,360
Speaker 1: a m P t P a m P t P

1592
01:28:43,680 --> 01:28:47,120
Speaker 1: and just like start harassing them. I didn't invent which

1593
01:28:47,200 --> 01:28:48,840
Speaker 1: hunt culture, but I know how to use that. And

1594
01:28:48,880 --> 01:28:52,160
Speaker 1: it's time. Unless you want me as president, there you go. Sorry,

1595
01:28:52,200 --> 01:28:56,880
Speaker 1: it is my name. Um yeah, I mean everyone get

1596
01:28:56,920 --> 01:28:58,960
Speaker 1: out there and let's get out the vote. Let's get

1597
01:28:59,000 --> 01:29:01,880
Speaker 1: this sorted out. Okay, let's do things right at this time.

1598
01:29:02,120 --> 01:29:03,519
Speaker 1: What was the one good thing that came out of

1599
01:29:03,560 --> 01:29:07,160
Speaker 1: the two thousand seven writers strike. I'm trying to thank Survivorum.

1600
01:29:07,760 --> 01:29:09,200
Speaker 1: You know what, there was a lot of bad things,

1601
01:29:09,280 --> 01:29:11,759
Speaker 1: Like a lot of a lot of really promising shows

1602
01:29:11,800 --> 01:29:16,439
Speaker 1: were dead in the water after that. It ruined lost interesting. Um,

1603
01:29:16,520 --> 01:29:17,960
Speaker 1: it ruined a lot of shows. It made a lot

1604
01:29:18,000 --> 01:29:20,360
Speaker 1: of shows very confused and bad. That was like when

1605
01:29:20,400 --> 01:29:23,200
Speaker 1: network shows were big. I feel like now it's like

1606
01:29:23,320 --> 01:29:25,160
Speaker 1: with with cable shows being big, it's not going to

1607
01:29:25,240 --> 01:29:28,000
Speaker 1: really interrupt the quality of shows too much because they

1608
01:29:28,040 --> 01:29:30,280
Speaker 1: can just say, Okay, we'll take a break and later

1609
01:29:30,400 --> 01:29:32,400
Speaker 1: on we'll resume this and it'll be fine. But with

1610
01:29:32,560 --> 01:29:36,400
Speaker 1: network shows being big at that time, like order, it

1611
01:29:36,600 --> 01:29:39,719
Speaker 1: really kind of disturbed the narrative of a lot of shows.

1612
01:29:39,760 --> 01:29:42,920
Speaker 1: And I remember like when shows came back, they were different,

1613
01:29:43,880 --> 01:29:45,880
Speaker 1: episode orders were weird, you know what. You know what.

1614
01:29:45,960 --> 01:29:49,320
Speaker 1: I think the writers strike kind of helped with with um,

1615
01:29:49,640 --> 01:29:51,360
Speaker 1: this is the series. I think the writer stretches helped

1616
01:29:51,360 --> 01:29:54,439
Speaker 1: with was great because the second half of season four

1617
01:29:54,479 --> 01:29:58,280
Speaker 1: of Gray's Anatomy was very interesting. Did we get kid

1618
01:29:58,400 --> 01:30:01,439
Speaker 1: Nation from from the writer strike? Was that born during

1619
01:30:01,479 --> 01:30:04,120
Speaker 1: the writer's strike? Not sure, you're no, but you're I

1620
01:30:04,160 --> 01:30:06,160
Speaker 1: don't know, but you're a percent right about the kind

1621
01:30:06,160 --> 01:30:08,639
Speaker 1: of rise of reality because they had already reared its head,

1622
01:30:09,040 --> 01:30:11,719
Speaker 1: like American I had already become number one, and Survivor

1623
01:30:11,840 --> 01:30:14,240
Speaker 1: started everything and whatever. And then when there was an

1624
01:30:14,240 --> 01:30:17,360
Speaker 1: absence of those shows. It's true, when all those shows

1625
01:30:17,400 --> 01:30:20,200
Speaker 1: came in, I think that might have been being planted

1626
01:30:20,360 --> 01:30:24,519
Speaker 1: right now. And I this is like a Malcolm Gladwell

1627
01:30:24,560 --> 01:30:29,040
Speaker 1: asked spository topic right here. That's that's amazing. Thank you, Cole,

1628
01:30:29,120 --> 01:30:30,880
Speaker 1: You're welcome. Wow, Well, this has been a great episode

1629
01:30:30,880 --> 01:30:33,360
Speaker 1: of There's been so much culture brought to the forefront.

1630
01:30:33,400 --> 01:30:36,040
Speaker 1: Absolutely and thank you so much. Cole, thank you. I

1631
01:30:36,120 --> 01:30:39,400
Speaker 1: love you. I love this show so much. Totally an

1632
01:30:39,600 --> 01:30:43,320
Speaker 1: icon to us, I mean and again like just you're

1633
01:30:43,400 --> 01:30:46,960
Speaker 1: so you. It's it is your honor to see Cola

1634
01:30:47,000 --> 01:30:49,120
Speaker 1: School of perform Absolutely, so you should all go to

1635
01:30:49,200 --> 01:30:53,120
Speaker 1: the show on Dreune fourteen, June fourteen. Help help, I'm

1636
01:30:53,160 --> 01:30:58,720
Speaker 1: stuck that title. Thanks. You gotta go fabulous where people

1637
01:30:58,760 --> 01:31:01,479
Speaker 1: find you on social media at Cola Scola. He got

1638
01:31:01,680 --> 01:31:04,040
Speaker 1: he got it. I got it. He got it because

1639
01:31:04,040 --> 01:31:07,920
Speaker 1: I tried to get at Cola Scola. Guys, thank you

1640
01:31:08,000 --> 01:31:10,960
Speaker 1: so much. My name is Matt Rod. My name Bye bye.

1641
01:31:15,160 --> 01:31:18,439
Speaker 1: This has been a Forever Dog production executive produced by

1642
01:31:18,520 --> 01:31:22,520
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1643
01:31:22,600 --> 01:31:27,640
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