Speaker 1: Wind Down with Janet Kramer and I'm Heart Radio Podcast.
Speaker 2: All Right, Today's Thursday Therapy. We've got Yasna Burza on.
Speaker 2: She's an internationally recognized certified life coach spiritual advisor to CEOs, entrepreneurs, dreamers.
Speaker 2: She lived in a refuge camp during the war in Bosnia.
Speaker 2: She's got a book out now called Healer and Heels.
Speaker 2: You are the one you have been waiting for simple
Speaker 2: practices to transform your life, also transforming your home into
Speaker 2: an oasis for your mental health. So let's get her
Speaker 2: on and start healing. Hello, yeahs Now, we are so
Speaker 2: excited to have you on wind Down. I'm Jana, I
Speaker 2: guess I'm my baby.
Speaker 3: I got Channa.
Speaker 2: This is Kristen and you know I was reading your
Speaker 2: breakdown and I'm just like man like you've you were
Speaker 2: in a refuge camp during the war in Bosnia, and
Speaker 2: I don't I don't want to butcher the How do her?
Speaker 3: Here's go?
Speaker 1: How do you say Bosnia and Herzegovina.
Speaker 2: Yep, Herzegovina. I mean, and now you've just transformed your
Speaker 2: life and you've got books out, You've got Healer and Heels.
Speaker 2: You're also doing which I want to talk to you
Speaker 2: about too. You're transforming your home into an oasis for
Speaker 2: your mental health because i just moved into a house,
Speaker 2: so I've got questions about everything. But can we just
Speaker 2: back up to Bosnia for a minute, because I would
Speaker 2: just love to know just about your upbringing and who
Speaker 2: Jazna is.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, It's actually quite the topic right now because
Speaker 1: of everything happening happening in the Middle East, and it's
Speaker 1: been quite triggering because every time I see the images
Speaker 1: of shelling, the grenades, the snipers, it is exactly exactly
Speaker 1: what I remember growing up. So I was eight when
Speaker 1: war started in former Yugoslavia. It was a combination of
Speaker 1: six different countries. And why do we fight? Right, It's
Speaker 1: so complex, just like now in the Middle East. My
Speaker 1: kids keep asking me, Mama, why can't they just live
Speaker 1: to And that is the really big question throughout Millennia,
Speaker 1: why do we fight? And I ended up in a
Speaker 1: refugee camp at the age of eight alone for a
Speaker 1: month until I was there and I with my mom
Speaker 1: while my father was taken to a concentration camp. So
Speaker 1: it's even now when I'm talking to it's hard to
Speaker 1: believe this happened. In my lifetime, in our lifetime. It's
Speaker 1: not like hundreds of years ago, and it's still happening today.
Speaker 1: So the war lasted four and a half years in Bosnia,
Speaker 1: and it's destroyed our lives. It definitely destroyed the health
Speaker 1: and well being my father. After he came back from
Speaker 1: the concentration camp, he was never the same. And I
Speaker 1: accumulated a lot of trauma, a lot of heartache. But
Speaker 1: I also really believe. And here's the kicker, and here's
Speaker 1: the reason why I'm so excited to be talking to you,
Speaker 1: because I know about the next chapter, and I know
Speaker 1: about so so much emphasis that you place on this
Speaker 1: idea that we can heal, no matter what it was
Speaker 1: precisely somehow placed in my life, because that I could
Speaker 1: break down everything that needs to be broken down inside
Speaker 1: of me, parts of my ego, and to learn how
Speaker 1: to heal, so that I could be the change that
Speaker 1: I wanted to see in the world.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm so sorry with everything good? How can
Speaker 2: I ask how old you are?
Speaker 1: Sure? Forty two? Just forty two?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Oh, well happened right behind just this.
Speaker 2: You know, my I'm German in Croatian, so my grandma
Speaker 2: she i remember she'd come to our classroom. She wrote
Speaker 2: this big thing and I think it was this middle
Speaker 2: school and she talked about how she was in the
Speaker 2: war and the bombing because it was Yugoslavia at that time.
Speaker 2: She was born in Zagreb. And you know, it's it's
Speaker 2: wild that you know, we have that generation and then
Speaker 2: you know our generation now as you were as a child,
Speaker 2: and you know the refuge camp and then now again, yes,
Speaker 2: everything in the news is just it's just I can't
Speaker 2: even like it's it's hard to even go is this
Speaker 2: Obviously I know it's real, but it's so hard to
Speaker 2: just fathom.
Speaker 3: That any that's going on now.
Speaker 4: And that's like even when you're saying eight, So Jane
Speaker 4: and I have girls that are three months or three
Speaker 4: weeks apart, and they're about to be eight years old.
Speaker 3: And I like.
Speaker 4: As you're saying, it was like holding back tears, because
Speaker 4: how does an eight year old go for a full month,
Speaker 4: no mom, no dad, I mean, and turn out to
Speaker 4: be as like beautiful and introspective as you are. It's
Speaker 4: just honestly, like I I lost words. I'm like eight
Speaker 4: years old, that is, and you don't get to know
Speaker 4: where anybody is right. I mean you're put in this
Speaker 4: position where and you're all alone family wise, yeah, right,
Speaker 4: there's no one else from your.
Speaker 1: Old someone else.
Speaker 2: It was I was imagine love and Jolie feeling that
Speaker 2: like all these kids. Now, I just I can't. That's
Speaker 2: piece of breaks some herts the kids.
Speaker 1: I have a nine year old, So the thought of
Speaker 1: him right now being without me for a month, sleeping
Speaker 1: on the floor and where his mom is breaks my heart.
Speaker 1: The thought of him literally hunting for food and clean water,
Speaker 1: the thought of him not being warm. So being cold
Speaker 1: is my trigger. We were always so cold, right, So
Speaker 1: it's all three of us right now we're sitting in
Speaker 1: it's like I can't possibly imagine it. And as we're
Speaker 1: sitting in this conversation our company offices and chairs, there's
Speaker 1: people and children in the Middle East experience in this
Speaker 1: very same thing. So I think it's madness, and it's
Speaker 1: the reason why I wrote the book. It is this
Speaker 1: idea of we keep delegating our power to dress The
Speaker 1: government is going to fix it, the influencers are going
Speaker 1: to somehow make it all better. What about us and
Speaker 1: the energy and how we are contributing to the chaos
Speaker 1: of the world. We are the ones that are alltimate
Speaker 1: we have been waiting for and the mystics and people
Speaker 1: like Roomy and Hafi's have been talking about for millennia,
Speaker 1: and quantum physics now explains that we literally are changing
Speaker 1: the fabric of our society with our emotions and our thoughts.
Speaker 1: And I felt this deep desire and need in the
Speaker 1: post pandemic world to write a manual for how do
Speaker 1: we navigate a way out of this? Because I really
Speaker 1: do believe that it starts with us. And even though
Speaker 1: we feel helpless right now and my heartbreaks, I've cried
Speaker 1: more in the last three weeks than I have in
Speaker 1: the last three years, how do we get through this?
Speaker 1: How do we make it?
Speaker 2: And that's the piece and I want, I want to
Speaker 2: sorry to interject, because I really want to talk about
Speaker 2: the ways that you talk about those in Healer and Heels.
Speaker 2: But when it comes to the war that's going on now,
Speaker 2: because it's hard sitting here, like you said, in our beautiful,
Speaker 2: well conditioned rooms and you know we're safe, we have food,
Speaker 2: what can we do? That's the thing is sometimes I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I could post the things on Instagram, but then it
Speaker 2: just keeps happening. I'm one person and I'm like, so,
Speaker 2: what can we do that would make a difference.
Speaker 1: I am not a fan of posting and sharing information
Speaker 1: that we don't even know is true right now. I
Speaker 1: think that's part of the problem. Good natured people are
Speaker 1: sharing things that they feel like they want to do something,
Speaker 1: so they share what their influencers someone they follow is
Speaker 1: shared without even knowing if they're doing harm. So I
Speaker 1: think the best way to do the best things to
Speaker 1: do right now for all of us is tune out
Speaker 1: the noise. And that's difficult because science is very conclusive.
Speaker 1: Doctor John Diamond, he's the father of kinesiology. He talked
Speaker 1: about this idea of when we even look at something
Speaker 1: very negative and very very harmful to us, all of
Speaker 1: our muscles in our body go weak. So how do
Speaker 1: I help my nine year old and ten year old
Speaker 1: when I'm a complete mess? And I talk about this
Speaker 1: in the book. If I were to pay attention to
Speaker 1: everything bad happens in the world and really take it
Speaker 1: in because somehow I want to, that's how I feel
Speaker 1: I'm helping, I will be curled up on the floor
Speaker 1: by mid morning, unable to help anyone so this is
Speaker 1: not to be insensitive. It just means that in this
Speaker 1: very big geopolitical conflict, there's nothing that we can do
Speaker 1: right now directly. I give money, I do aid, I
Speaker 1: pray for people. But I think what we can do
Speaker 1: is pay attention to the discordance and the negative energy
Speaker 1: that we have in our own lives. We keep blaming
Speaker 1: others and saying, but terrorists are doing that, and these
Speaker 1: are the people that are at fault. But we are
Speaker 1: not paying attention to the judgments that we place upon others.
Speaker 1: Oh she's so and so, or he is such a jerk,
Speaker 1: or all of these really quick reactions that we have,
Speaker 1: I think are just as poisonous. And there's something in
Speaker 1: the world that's called the Higgs field and it was
Speaker 1: discovered in twenty twelve in Zern, Switzerland. It's how we
Speaker 1: really discover this Higgs boson, which is the smallest particle
Speaker 1: in the world, and it's so bizarre in it's behavior
Speaker 1: that we have no other word for it than God's particle.
Speaker 1: It's insane. And this field connects everyone, all of us
Speaker 1: across the board, and we now have the quantum physics
Speaker 1: and beautiful researchers that prove that is so so when
Speaker 1: we think about that, it means that every single thought
Speaker 1: and the word we utter contributes to the overwhelmed anxiety
Speaker 1: or the chaos of the world. So tune out the noise.
Speaker 1: See if you can fortify yourself, your household when you
Speaker 1: are you, when we are in our household with our
Speaker 1: little ones, you know, playing room room with our with
Speaker 1: my son on the on the floor, or singing songs
Speaker 1: or making great meal. I feel that that's how I'm
Speaker 1: cleaning my energy and then putting that light into the world.
Speaker 1: And I think both of you are sitting there, You're
Speaker 1: doing it just by having this converse by week in
Speaker 1: and out putting out content that I think heals people.
Speaker 3: What do you think you were?
Speaker 2: First of all, selfishly, that makes me feel a little
Speaker 2: better because I was like, I have to, like with
Speaker 2: everything going on with the baby coming, I started to
Speaker 2: feel at the time, I was like, I mean, I
Speaker 2: feel bad for just blocking the noise, but it was
Speaker 2: just so loud that I just it was causing anxiety.
Speaker 4: Well I did after those After one of the school shootings,
Speaker 4: I interviewed one of my therapist friends and we talked
Speaker 4: about exactly this. I like what do we do right
Speaker 4: because it's helpless. But I do think one so many
Speaker 4: things you're saying are literally like pouring into my DNA today,
Speaker 4: Like I couldn't be any more in alignment with everything
Speaker 4: you're saying, and it's validating in so many ways. But
Speaker 4: she essentially said, like we forget to just start where
Speaker 4: we're at, and we're expending all this energy. But it's
Speaker 4: the same thing. She said that the best thing you
Speaker 4: can do is to regulate your own nervous system in
Speaker 4: this moment. So take a walk, cook a meal, hug
Speaker 4: your kids, because when we're all just chaotically bumping into
Speaker 4: each other and sharing the misinformation. I mean, I will
Speaker 4: admittedly say I was a pray for Israel, when I
Speaker 4: mean Biblically it says we're supposed to pray for Israel.
Speaker 3: So I was like, why I pray for Israel?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 4: And I had followers right to me like okay, this
Speaker 4: is what's happening, and I and we had the most
Speaker 4: beautiful dialogue, but it was honest dialogue because I was
Speaker 4: not afraid to say I don't know. But I can't
Speaker 4: also get accurate information because there's an agenda woven between
Speaker 4: everything that is going to frame something to be one
Speaker 4: way or the other. And truth over volume has always
Speaker 4: been my motto sonable it's a yeah, well, let's hope
Speaker 4: we can all write a book on it someday. But
Speaker 4: it's just but like, the truth over volume is so
Speaker 4: hard to find for us right now because our worlds
Speaker 4: are so inundated by by the influencers. I mean, we're
Speaker 4: friends with these people, I pseudo semi like you know,
Speaker 4: will say that I kind of am one, but it
Speaker 4: is hard to really find what is truth and to
Speaker 4: help then, Like I just think we have a bunch
Speaker 4: of unqualified people saying a bunch of things that aren't true,
Speaker 4: and we're just all we're spinning into each other.
Speaker 1: Amen. And I think and.
Speaker 3: It does feel helpless.
Speaker 4: So when you say, like start with you, I'm like, think,
Speaker 4: thank you for giving us a start, Like nobody even
Speaker 4: knows what is point A and to.
Speaker 2: Start with you, Jasmin, what would you say is the
Speaker 2: first step on someone's healing journey? Like what is when
Speaker 2: they're like I'm done with this, I want to start
Speaker 2: the healing process.
Speaker 3: Like what is that first?
Speaker 2: Is it? Is it recognizing that or what would you say,
Speaker 2: like to be that first step into this the journey
Speaker 2: of healing.
Speaker 1: Well, it's always understanding that we that something is off,
Speaker 1: and I think we know that it is we I
Speaker 1: have to admit that I have a problem more, that
Speaker 1: something is not right. And I was reminded by that
Speaker 1: through throughout your journey and the book, and you write
Speaker 1: about that so beautifully. So many times I felt like,
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, she's literally telling my story. And it's
Speaker 1: in that awareness that we first tune out the noise.
Speaker 1: And I did this. I remember the book was really
Speaker 1: for me. I started writing it a decade ago when
Speaker 1: I went through a series of miscarriages. I had nine.
Speaker 1: And I know that that hits home for you too, Jana,
Speaker 1: And that's the We're always going to go through something.
Speaker 1: No matter who you are and what you do in
Speaker 1: this world, you are going to experience some kind of
Speaker 1: a hardship. So even back then, what I did was
Speaker 1: say something has to change because this keeps showing up
Speaker 1: for me, meaning I either I changed or change the environment.
Speaker 1: So I tuned out the noise. I said no to
Speaker 1: every happy hour, I said no to all of the events.
Speaker 1: I literally could coon myself in my eye and I
Speaker 1: focused on me, and that's what I needed at the time.
Speaker 1: But even now, right now, I think that the healing
Speaker 1: journey is so individual, and we have all of these
Speaker 1: gurus telling us this is the exact prescription for how
Speaker 1: you heal, how you do X, Y and Z, and
Speaker 1: there is no such a thing because we are so all,
Speaker 1: so unique, so beautiful, so divinely manufactured orchestrated to be
Speaker 1: in this world. So it starts with saying, what do
Speaker 1: I first need right now? For some people is that
Speaker 1: they need people, They need to reach out to others
Speaker 1: and not be alone, and for others it's exactly the opposite.
Speaker 1: So it's being radically honest with saying what is it
Speaker 1: that I really truly need to heal? What I know
Speaker 1: for sure is that it is difficult to heal today
Speaker 1: in this very noisy world where there's incessant chatter, simply
Speaker 1: because there's so much incoming and it's very difficult to
Speaker 1: ask ourselves these questions when there's barrage of noise coming
Speaker 1: at us and demands of life every single day. So
Speaker 1: how do I make my world extremely small for just
Speaker 1: a few weeks so I can actually ask myself what
Speaker 1: I need and take the first step, and then I'm
Speaker 1: a really big fan of simplifying and reducing my life,
Speaker 1: saying no to everything that is absolutely unnecessary. An example
Speaker 1: of this for so many of my mamas for doing
Speaker 1: the bake baking muffins in school when they haven't had
Speaker 1: any he sleep the night before because they've been up
Speaker 1: with their newborn. That's not the time to be mom
Speaker 1: of the year. That's the time to get more sleep.
Speaker 1: So I think it's tuning out the noise and refocusing
Speaker 1: on simplifying our lives so we can tune out the
Speaker 1: noise and hear the whispers of our own soul. When
Speaker 1: we do that, the answers do come.
Speaker 2: Whispers of my own soul. That's another book.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's so true. It is true.
Speaker 1: I do.
Speaker 4: I call it soaking prayer in my bathtub at night,
Speaker 4: and it's I tell my husband. I'm like because he'll say, like, oh,
Speaker 4: can I come in and talk to you?
Speaker 3: And I'm like, I.
Speaker 4: Wish you could, but I need to hear my own
Speaker 4: heartbeat for a minute, like you, just because I mean,
Speaker 4: we're moms, right, so like that even the people we've
Speaker 4: created we love are noisy. So at some point it
Speaker 4: is about just like getting silent with yourself and you
Speaker 4: also believe then I think I read this that you're
Speaker 4: a big advocate for your space. Also like resembling the
Speaker 4: amount of noise and kind of like what is the
Speaker 4: reflecting words are really hard for me today, but reflecting
Speaker 4: kind of these the noiseless way of life.
Speaker 2: To say this, even last night with the baby coming,
Speaker 2: there's my house is a mess. There is like this,
Speaker 2: I'm looking at this, going I still got to hang that,
Speaker 2: and then this, the nursery needs to be done, all
Speaker 2: the things, and I'm like, I what I told my
Speaker 2: fiance was I have to I need to have these
Speaker 2: areas put together before the baby came, because I'm starting
Speaker 2: to just feel chaos kind of in my soul and
Speaker 2: I feel agitated, and I don't want to have to
Speaker 2: deal with this when the baby comes and I and
Speaker 2: but we have two rooms that are done. So there's
Speaker 2: the master, which is kind of my oasis. So when
Speaker 2: I start to feel a little oh God, there's so
Speaker 2: much to do, I just go sit in my room
Speaker 2: and it's just it's very peaceful. So I'm so thankful
Speaker 2: to have that. But last night there was just crap
Speaker 2: everywhere on the island, and I'm the kind of person
Speaker 2: I don't like sink. I don't like any stuff in
Speaker 2: the sink. That's just I can't go to bed with
Speaker 2: stuff in the sink. It has to be in the
Speaker 2: dishwasher or running or whatever. And I just looked at it,
Speaker 2: and you know when it just feels like everything's being
Speaker 2: left for.
Speaker 3: You to to do, which.
Speaker 2: I know and I don't think they like it because
Speaker 2: he don't mean the biggest help wherever, like he's amazing
Speaker 2: around the house. But just in that moment, I just
Speaker 2: saw everything and I was just like, I'm a ticking
Speaker 2: time bomb. And we got like a week to get
Speaker 2: this train roll here. And so I think for you, Jasmine,
Speaker 2: like what I'm obviously you you're in alignment with that too,
Speaker 2: that you need things put together in the house.
Speaker 3: Is that kind of what.
Speaker 4: We're what we're simplified declared.
Speaker 1: But there's a brea good reason.
Speaker 4: Tell us everything. I'm drinking everything you're saying with a straw,
Speaker 4: I'm like, tell me.
Speaker 1: It has become such a big part of my life.
Speaker 1: I actually went for three years. I researched, had my
Speaker 1: spiritual teacher, and then I went really deep into quantum physics,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, wait a minute, these two branches are
Speaker 1: talking about exactly the same thing. Let me write about
Speaker 1: it in a way that's really understandable. So there's a
Speaker 1: there's a science behind why we feel distraught when things
Speaker 1: are all over the place, the messy kitchen, the messy environment,
Speaker 1: everything in our space. Our spaces are not empty, they're
Speaker 1: fully alive. We think of space as empty, but it
Speaker 1: actually carries information, and that is this information, this vie
Speaker 1: information that can be molded and changed with our thoughts,
Speaker 1: with the things that are in our environment. So when
Speaker 1: we have a lot of clutter and things are all
Speaker 1: over the place, that creates something in physics called negentropy,
Speaker 1: And what that means is that every part of that
Speaker 1: clutter or things out of place creates disorder in our
Speaker 1: minds and carries that energy that then envelops us. So
Speaker 1: what I've learned in my research is that we can
Speaker 1: actually create holy spaces in our homes and mimic the
Speaker 1: energy that we feel, for example, in Westminster Abbey or
Speaker 1: a temple or church. Every time we go into a
Speaker 1: holy space where there's reverence, it's actually no miracle. It's physics,
Speaker 1: people go into that space every single day that's orderly,
Speaker 1: and they condition it with their good thoughts wishes, and
Speaker 1: over time that space imprints the energy of our own
Speaker 1: emotions and thoughts. It starts really first and foremost with
Speaker 1: the physical clutter, because that is the easiest way to
Speaker 1: fix our environment and change it. So I always tell everyone,
Speaker 1: if you're feeling all over the place, really first and foremost,
Speaker 1: even for your dinner right now, I'm like, I can't
Speaker 1: even imagine or remember being in the last weeks and
Speaker 1: feeling like, oh my god, my whole life is going
Speaker 1: to change again. You can just set this intention of right,
Speaker 1: you can just set an intention of you know what,
Speaker 1: I'm going to take a deep breath in and a
Speaker 1: deep breath out, and I will handle this before baby arrives.
Speaker 1: And that intention molds not just your reality. We now
Speaker 1: know through observer effect in quantum physics that our thoughts
Speaker 1: change physical matter, and intention is a focused thought. So
Speaker 1: if you do that, you're molding your environment. You're making
Speaker 1: your future so and then you're also changing the material
Speaker 1: composition of your and making sure that your space reacts
Speaker 1: to you as well. If that makes sense. Does that
Speaker 1: make sense because I don't want to be too sciencey,
Speaker 1: but this is really important for us to know.
Speaker 3: It makes so much sense. I love the idea.
Speaker 4: I was just as you were saying, I'm like, what
Speaker 4: spaces in my house feel holy to me? Because there
Speaker 4: are certain rooms that are less than holy right now,
Speaker 4: my closet being one of them. Make another yes, oh yeah.
Speaker 4: But it's funny because we didn't find out if we
Speaker 4: were having a boy or girl. We had a little
Speaker 4: girl five months ago, and so there was the chaos
Speaker 4: of like where does everything you know your but I
Speaker 4: have to design and create I call it habitats around
Speaker 4: the people and their energy, you know, like I need
Speaker 4: to know them first. And now her room is probably
Speaker 4: like the holiest place in my house to me. Like
Speaker 4: I go in and I'm like, ah, but it's so
Speaker 4: like almost soaked in gratitude or something that I feel
Speaker 4: it when I walk in. And now I'm like, well,
Speaker 4: I just have work to do in every other room
Speaker 4: in the house, because it doesn't matter how cute it is.
Speaker 4: There's just a lot of I do feel that, like cluttering,
Speaker 4: just crap. Every We've been in our house for seven
Speaker 4: years and all of a sudden You're like, how did
Speaker 4: all this stuff get here?
Speaker 3: We chose it, But I don't like that.
Speaker 1: It's yeah, it's so easy. We live in a world
Speaker 1: where I feel like things are just coming out and
Speaker 1: they're not coming in and they're not coming out. But
Speaker 1: see what you did in the nursery, right, And that
Speaker 1: is so incredibly important for new moms because you know,
Speaker 1: I'm looking at you, Jane, I'm like, you're going to
Speaker 1: be so tired in a few weeks. And I always
Speaker 1: felt like whenever I was feeding, it was a holy
Speaker 1: place because it was a place that it's going to
Speaker 1: embrace me. So we can actually change the energy of
Speaker 1: any space now if we can. You know, there's I
Speaker 1: have a husband and i have two boys, So I'm
Speaker 1: not even going to attempt to claim the entire house
Speaker 1: because it is impossible. There's just nowhere. But I can
Speaker 1: claim a dominion over one room, over one corner where
Speaker 1: it can be a holy ir reverence space. Develo uphold me.
Speaker 1: And here's why that's important. Every day we go into
Speaker 1: the world and we can now measure our field, our
Speaker 1: energetic field. We can measure it up to six feet
Speaker 1: around us. And Heart Math Institute has done beautiful research
Speaker 1: around our heart, which is five thousand more times more important,
Speaker 1: more more impactful, and bigger than that of the brain.
Speaker 1: So we're going around in our days bumping into each
Speaker 1: other field. Majority of those fields are discordant. There are
Speaker 1: anxious energies, too much overwhelmed. Then when we come into
Speaker 1: our house, we need an oasis, a space that will
Speaker 1: that will embrace it, embrace us, They will hug us,
Speaker 1: they will literally let our worries and cares of the
Speaker 1: world melt into that space, just like a mother's arms
Speaker 1: do that for a baby that's in distress. That is
Speaker 1: the importance of having our space. It's not just an
Speaker 1: abode in which we eat, braids, sleep. It's so much
Speaker 1: more than that. And I think that by doing that,
Speaker 1: it's a radical way of changing the world. How when
Speaker 1: I come I cohere all systems within myself. I can
Speaker 1: come into my bath and I can bless the water,
Speaker 1: and I can really come into the space where I'm
Speaker 1: becoming more aligned with who I am. And then when
Speaker 1: I go on the next day into the world of
Speaker 1: those bumping fields and discordant energies, I become the light
Speaker 1: in this world. So for me, that's my mission how
Speaker 1: do I make this world a better place? And I
Speaker 1: always ask myself, how does it start with me? Where
Speaker 1: do I have to make the changes? And the home
Speaker 1: is one of those simple things that doesn't cost a
Speaker 1: thing and we can do that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love that. And in Healer and Heels to
Speaker 2: talk about because I feel with you know, life and
Speaker 2: kids and impending deliveries and anxious feelings. Is there any
Speaker 2: good tips you write in the book about how to
Speaker 2: calm that anxious mind because I definitely go too.
Speaker 3: And I'm trying.
Speaker 2: To switch my thoughts because I know thoughts become and
Speaker 2: so I'm every day I wake up and I go,
Speaker 2: I'm going to be okay, Baby's going to be okay. Everyone,
Speaker 2: It's like, what's Everything's going to be okay? Because in
Speaker 2: my mind, I'm like, it's not going to be okay.
Speaker 2: And oh my god, the doctor said this could happen,
Speaker 2: and this could happen, and oh my god, I could code
Speaker 2: and it's just all the things. So I'm like, what
Speaker 2: are some good tips to just breathe in peace?
Speaker 1: Well, I'm going to go back to what we discussed earlier.
Speaker 1: The first is to tune out the noise as much
Speaker 1: as the outside knows that you.
Speaker 3: Can hear, but it's my noise though. That's the problem.
Speaker 3: How do you have your own it's my own mind.
Speaker 1: So if you've tuned out the world, that's wonderful. It
Speaker 1: really starts with we're always the regulating our nervous system
Speaker 1: by taking a deep breath and they breath in and out.
Speaker 1: And what that does is that we cannot hold peace
Speaker 1: and fear, or peace and anxiousness at the same time
Speaker 1: in our soul, heart and mind. It is impossible. Our
Speaker 1: brain doesn't work that way. So wherever we're placing our
Speaker 1: attention is what is going to grow. So all of
Speaker 1: us will wake up in the morning and say, oh
Speaker 1: my god, I have so much to do. How am
Speaker 1: I going to do it? This is impossible, there's no way,
Speaker 1: and there's barrage of things, and just in a moment,
Speaker 1: you can just stop and immediately say everything is going
Speaker 1: to be all right, And you say it in a
Speaker 1: slow and methodical way, because again it's that intention. And
Speaker 1: remember that intention changes physical matter, it changes atoms. So
Speaker 1: this is not to be downplayed. And saying that, why,
Speaker 1: I know the thought thoughts change, you know, my reality.
Speaker 1: We say it with such such little bit of a
Speaker 1: lack of reference reverence. I think that it's just repeating
Speaker 1: it to ourselves. Everything is going to be all right,
Speaker 1: and so it is. And that would be the first,
Speaker 1: very first step. The second is to surround ourselves with
Speaker 1: somehow some part of nature. Trees are incredibly powerful, or
Speaker 1: greenery or plants in completely downregulating our nervous system. And
Speaker 1: here's how. There's a practice that starts in Japan called
Speaker 1: shinrin yoku, which translates to forest baiting. It started as
Speaker 1: an antidote these really really busy lives, and it now
Speaker 1: shows that it has actually been incredibly transformative for us
Speaker 1: because it immediately within twenty minutes of being among the trees,
Speaker 1: they produce something called fighting sides, which is a chemical
Speaker 1: that somehow plays with our chemical composition, and within twenty
Speaker 1: minutes regulates and lowers cortisol and adrenaline and increases oxytocin,
Speaker 1: increases the cancer fighting proteins. That just makes us really
Speaker 1: really really good. These are the physical manifestations and things
Speaker 1: that we can actually measure in a lab. I draw
Speaker 1: my blood before and after I go into the forest,
Speaker 1: and boom, it's an immediate thing that suits my physical body.
Speaker 1: But I think what it does, and this is a
Speaker 1: little bit more difficult to measure. It's subjective, but I
Speaker 1: believe it does something to us. Studies show now that
Speaker 1: trees actually talk to each other, not in a way
Speaker 1: that we are talking, but they communicate one another, warning
Speaker 1: themselves when there's danger ahead, when there's any kind of danger,
Speaker 1: or they need more water, or they need to protect
Speaker 1: themselves from something coming. I also believe that the trees
Speaker 1: can feel that we're there, So it's another way where
Speaker 1: I feel enveloped. And that physical lowering of adrenaline and
Speaker 1: cortisol coincides with lowering and slowing down our thoughts, so
Speaker 1: we can take a bigger inhale and have a bigger exhale.
Speaker 1: And those are the kind of thing and the third
Speaker 1: thing that I really really sometimes it's very difficult for
Speaker 1: me to meditate where my mind is rasing prayer. And
Speaker 1: there's an entire chapter in the book about prayer and
Speaker 1: the science of prayer of how important it is. Regardless
Speaker 1: of your faith or even if you are religious or not,
Speaker 1: you can say a prayer of goodness or well intention
Speaker 1: for someone else, and just by sitting in the space
Speaker 1: and saying, Dear God, today I'm going to say a
Speaker 1: prayer for Jana. May her days be soul peaceful, May
Speaker 1: her preparation for the baby be so effortless, and may
Speaker 1: develop her with light. May she come into the state
Speaker 1: where she's so fully prepared to welcome this beautiful, incredible
Speaker 1: miracle into the world. And may everything be just the
Speaker 1: way it is. So science says that when we do that,
Speaker 1: not only does it work, intercestory prayer has been shown
Speaker 1: to have incredible res and that's because of that Higgs field.
Speaker 1: I change as a results. So when I pray for you,
Speaker 1: I feel so good because I'm connecting to the field
Speaker 1: of potentiality of goodness, and then it changes my chemical composition.
Speaker 1: So just know that for the next few weeks, my prayers,
Speaker 1: morning prayers, You're going to be in them so and
Speaker 1: you're going to feel them.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, I just thank you, and I'm so excited
Speaker 2: now to get your book, Healer and Heels, And I
Speaker 2: appreciate everything you said, and I will say, Michigan, Jana
Speaker 2: is why up north is my favorite place in the world.
Speaker 2: The water, the trees, all of it.
Speaker 3: It's just.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so I totally agree with you on the
Speaker 2: tree aspect. But Jasna, where can our listeners find you?
Speaker 1: I spend most of my time on Instagram at Yasna
Speaker 1: dot Borza, and I'm happy to answer any questions. And
Speaker 1: I that's really it. I don't have.
Speaker 2: Sorry, I americanized your name with jazz. It's okay, Yana, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I know, okay, like people call me Yana from over there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's.
Speaker 1: Quite all right. There's really there's for me. I'm there's
Speaker 1: nothing that I sell. There's not there. I don't have
Speaker 1: a product. There's nothing that that you.
Speaker 2: Got Healer and heels girl, and everyone needs to go there.
Speaker 1: That's right. Yeah, the book because it's incredibly healing. But
Speaker 1: I just really want to remind all of us that
Speaker 1: we are the ones that we have been waiting for
Speaker 1: and that there comes a time for everyone in our
Speaker 1: lives where I'm just so reminded of Matthew Perry passing.
Speaker 1: Despite all of the abundance fit material that we may
Speaker 1: accumulate in our lives, sometimes our demons are there to
Speaker 1: haunt us. So unless we attend to those, we can't
Speaker 1: really create the goodness in the world. So when we
Speaker 1: get to the point we should try and tell ourselves
Speaker 1: we have arrived. How may I be of service in
Speaker 1: this world? And that's how we change the world and
Speaker 1: be the light in this world. And I'm so thankful
Speaker 1: to you for this huge honor. I adore you to pieces.
Speaker 1: Thank you for having me.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Juvelie, thank you so much. I appreciate you.
Speaker 3: I want to hug you.
Speaker 2: I know anytime you're in Nashville, let us know. Please
Speaker 2: love your friend. Thank you so much. Everyone go get
Speaker 2: a healer and heels by Yasna Versa.
Speaker 1: Thank you friend,