1 00:00:01,920 --> 00:00:05,399 Speaker 1: Wind Down with Janet Kramer and I'm Heart Radio Podcast. 2 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:09,720 Speaker 2: All Right, Today's Thursday Therapy. We've got Yasna Burza on. 3 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 2: She's an internationally recognized certified life coach spiritual advisor to CEOs, entrepreneurs, dreamers. 4 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 2: She lived in a refuge camp during the war in Bosnia. 5 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 2: She's got a book out now called Healer and Heels. 6 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 2: You are the one you have been waiting for simple 7 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 2: practices to transform your life, also transforming your home into 8 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 2: an oasis for your mental health. So let's get her 9 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:37,280 Speaker 2: on and start healing. Hello, yeahs Now, we are so 10 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:41,519 Speaker 2: excited to have you on wind Down. I'm Jana, I 11 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:42,840 Speaker 2: guess I'm my baby. 12 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 3: I got Channa. 13 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 2: This is Kristen and you know I was reading your 14 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 2: breakdown and I'm just like man like you've you were 15 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:56,279 Speaker 2: in a refuge camp during the war in Bosnia, and 16 00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 2: I don't I don't want to butcher the How do her? 17 00:00:59,280 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 3: Here's go? 18 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 1: How do you say Bosnia and Herzegovina. 19 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 2: Yep, Herzegovina. I mean, and now you've just transformed your 20 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 2: life and you've got books out, You've got Healer and Heels. 21 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 2: You're also doing which I want to talk to you 22 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 2: about too. You're transforming your home into an oasis for 23 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:15,680 Speaker 2: your mental health because i just moved into a house, 24 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 2: so I've got questions about everything. But can we just 25 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 2: back up to Bosnia for a minute, because I would 26 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 2: just love to know just about your upbringing and who 27 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 2: Jazna is. 28 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, It's actually quite the topic right now because 29 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 1: of everything happening happening in the Middle East, and it's 30 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:37,759 Speaker 1: been quite triggering because every time I see the images 31 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 1: of shelling, the grenades, the snipers, it is exactly exactly 32 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:46,760 Speaker 1: what I remember growing up. So I was eight when 33 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 1: war started in former Yugoslavia. It was a combination of 34 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 1: six different countries. And why do we fight? Right, It's 35 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 1: so complex, just like now in the Middle East. My 36 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 1: kids keep asking me, Mama, why can't they just live 37 00:01:59,840 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 1: to And that is the really big question throughout Millennia, 38 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 1: why do we fight? And I ended up in a 39 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 1: refugee camp at the age of eight alone for a 40 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 1: month until I was there and I with my mom 41 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:16,919 Speaker 1: while my father was taken to a concentration camp. So 42 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:19,640 Speaker 1: it's even now when I'm talking to it's hard to 43 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 1: believe this happened. In my lifetime, in our lifetime. It's 44 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 1: not like hundreds of years ago, and it's still happening today. 45 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:34,920 Speaker 1: So the war lasted four and a half years in Bosnia, 46 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 1: and it's destroyed our lives. It definitely destroyed the health 47 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:42,799 Speaker 1: and well being my father. After he came back from 48 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:46,519 Speaker 1: the concentration camp, he was never the same. And I 49 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 1: accumulated a lot of trauma, a lot of heartache. But 50 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 1: I also really believe. And here's the kicker, and here's 51 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:56,399 Speaker 1: the reason why I'm so excited to be talking to you, 52 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 1: because I know about the next chapter, and I know 53 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 1: about so so much emphasis that you place on this 54 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 1: idea that we can heal, no matter what it was 55 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:10,800 Speaker 1: precisely somehow placed in my life, because that I could 56 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:14,240 Speaker 1: break down everything that needs to be broken down inside 57 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:17,240 Speaker 1: of me, parts of my ego, and to learn how 58 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:20,080 Speaker 1: to heal, so that I could be the change that 59 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:21,239 Speaker 1: I wanted to see in the world. 60 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:25,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm so sorry with everything good? How can 61 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 2: I ask how old you are? 62 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 1: Sure? Forty two? Just forty two? 63 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 2: Yeah? 64 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 3: Oh, well happened right behind just this. 65 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 2: You know, my I'm German in Croatian, so my grandma 66 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 2: she i remember she'd come to our classroom. She wrote 67 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 2: this big thing and I think it was this middle 68 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 2: school and she talked about how she was in the 69 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 2: war and the bombing because it was Yugoslavia at that time. 70 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 2: She was born in Zagreb. And you know, it's it's 71 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 2: wild that you know, we have that generation and then 72 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 2: you know our generation now as you were as a child, 73 00:03:57,560 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 2: and you know the refuge camp and then now again, yes, 74 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 2: everything in the news is just it's just I can't 75 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 2: even like it's it's hard to even go is this 76 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 2: Obviously I know it's real, but it's so hard to 77 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 2: just fathom. 78 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 3: That any that's going on now. 79 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 4: And that's like even when you're saying eight, So Jane 80 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 4: and I have girls that are three months or three 81 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 4: weeks apart, and they're about to be eight years old. 82 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:23,040 Speaker 3: And I like. 83 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 4: As you're saying, it was like holding back tears, because 84 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:29,359 Speaker 4: how does an eight year old go for a full month, 85 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 4: no mom, no dad, I mean, and turn out to 86 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 4: be as like beautiful and introspective as you are. It's 87 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:41,360 Speaker 4: just honestly, like I I lost words. I'm like eight 88 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 4: years old, that is, and you don't get to know 89 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 4: where anybody is right. I mean you're put in this 90 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 4: position where and you're all alone family wise, yeah, right, 91 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 4: there's no one else from your. 92 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 1: Old someone else. 93 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:57,279 Speaker 2: It was I was imagine love and Jolie feeling that 94 00:04:57,360 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 2: like all these kids. Now, I just I can't. That's 95 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:01,279 Speaker 2: piece of breaks some herts the kids. 96 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:04,159 Speaker 1: I have a nine year old, So the thought of 97 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:07,160 Speaker 1: him right now being without me for a month, sleeping 98 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:11,359 Speaker 1: on the floor and where his mom is breaks my heart. 99 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 1: The thought of him literally hunting for food and clean water, 100 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:18,480 Speaker 1: the thought of him not being warm. So being cold 101 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:21,479 Speaker 1: is my trigger. We were always so cold, right, So 102 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 1: it's all three of us right now we're sitting in 103 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:27,920 Speaker 1: it's like I can't possibly imagine it. And as we're 104 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:31,919 Speaker 1: sitting in this conversation our company offices and chairs, there's 105 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:34,479 Speaker 1: people and children in the Middle East experience in this 106 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:39,839 Speaker 1: very same thing. So I think it's madness, and it's 107 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 1: the reason why I wrote the book. It is this 108 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 1: idea of we keep delegating our power to dress The 109 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:49,680 Speaker 1: government is going to fix it, the influencers are going 110 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 1: to somehow make it all better. What about us and 111 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 1: the energy and how we are contributing to the chaos 112 00:05:57,520 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 1: of the world. We are the ones that are alltimate 113 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:04,119 Speaker 1: we have been waiting for and the mystics and people 114 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:06,920 Speaker 1: like Roomy and Hafi's have been talking about for millennia, 115 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:10,799 Speaker 1: and quantum physics now explains that we literally are changing 116 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 1: the fabric of our society with our emotions and our thoughts. 117 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:17,039 Speaker 1: And I felt this deep desire and need in the 118 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 1: post pandemic world to write a manual for how do 119 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 1: we navigate a way out of this? Because I really 120 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 1: do believe that it starts with us. And even though 121 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:29,359 Speaker 1: we feel helpless right now and my heartbreaks, I've cried 122 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 1: more in the last three weeks than I have in 123 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 1: the last three years, how do we get through this? 124 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 1: How do we make it? 125 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 2: And that's the piece and I want, I want to 126 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 2: sorry to interject, because I really want to talk about 127 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:45,480 Speaker 2: the ways that you talk about those in Healer and Heels. 128 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:48,479 Speaker 2: But when it comes to the war that's going on now, 129 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 2: because it's hard sitting here, like you said, in our beautiful, 130 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 2: well conditioned rooms and you know we're safe, we have food, 131 00:06:56,600 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 2: what can we do? That's the thing is sometimes I'm like, yeah, 132 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 2: I could post the things on Instagram, but then it 133 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:07,599 Speaker 2: just keeps happening. I'm one person and I'm like, so, 134 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 2: what can we do that would make a difference. 135 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 1: I am not a fan of posting and sharing information 136 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 1: that we don't even know is true right now. I 137 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 1: think that's part of the problem. Good natured people are 138 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 1: sharing things that they feel like they want to do something, 139 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 1: so they share what their influencers someone they follow is 140 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 1: shared without even knowing if they're doing harm. So I 141 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 1: think the best way to do the best things to 142 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:34,240 Speaker 1: do right now for all of us is tune out 143 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 1: the noise. And that's difficult because science is very conclusive. 144 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 1: Doctor John Diamond, he's the father of kinesiology. He talked 145 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:44,679 Speaker 1: about this idea of when we even look at something 146 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 1: very negative and very very harmful to us, all of 147 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 1: our muscles in our body go weak. So how do 148 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 1: I help my nine year old and ten year old 149 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 1: when I'm a complete mess? And I talk about this 150 00:07:57,280 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 1: in the book. If I were to pay attention to 151 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 1: everything bad happens in the world and really take it 152 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 1: in because somehow I want to, that's how I feel 153 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 1: I'm helping, I will be curled up on the floor 154 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 1: by mid morning, unable to help anyone so this is 155 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 1: not to be insensitive. It just means that in this 156 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 1: very big geopolitical conflict, there's nothing that we can do 157 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 1: right now directly. I give money, I do aid, I 158 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 1: pray for people. But I think what we can do 159 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 1: is pay attention to the discordance and the negative energy 160 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 1: that we have in our own lives. We keep blaming 161 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 1: others and saying, but terrorists are doing that, and these 162 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 1: are the people that are at fault. But we are 163 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 1: not paying attention to the judgments that we place upon others. 164 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 1: Oh she's so and so, or he is such a jerk, 165 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:50,320 Speaker 1: or all of these really quick reactions that we have, 166 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 1: I think are just as poisonous. And there's something in 167 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:58,080 Speaker 1: the world that's called the Higgs field and it was 168 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 1: discovered in twenty twelve in Zern, Switzerland. It's how we 169 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 1: really discover this Higgs boson, which is the smallest particle 170 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 1: in the world, and it's so bizarre in it's behavior 171 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 1: that we have no other word for it than God's particle. 172 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 1: It's insane. And this field connects everyone, all of us 173 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 1: across the board, and we now have the quantum physics 174 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 1: and beautiful researchers that prove that is so so when 175 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 1: we think about that, it means that every single thought 176 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 1: and the word we utter contributes to the overwhelmed anxiety 177 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 1: or the chaos of the world. So tune out the noise. 178 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 1: See if you can fortify yourself, your household when you 179 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 1: are you, when we are in our household with our 180 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:47,320 Speaker 1: little ones, you know, playing room room with our with 181 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 1: my son on the on the floor, or singing songs 182 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 1: or making great meal. I feel that that's how I'm 183 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:56,200 Speaker 1: cleaning my energy and then putting that light into the world. 184 00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 1: And I think both of you are sitting there, You're 185 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 1: doing it just by having this converse by week in 186 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 1: and out putting out content that I think heals people. 187 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:18,440 Speaker 3: What do you think you were? 188 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 2: First of all, selfishly, that makes me feel a little 189 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 2: better because I was like, I have to, like with 190 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 2: everything going on with the baby coming, I started to 191 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:28,200 Speaker 2: feel at the time, I was like, I mean, I 192 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 2: feel bad for just blocking the noise, but it was 193 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 2: just so loud that I just it was causing anxiety. 194 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 4: Well I did after those After one of the school shootings, 195 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:40,439 Speaker 4: I interviewed one of my therapist friends and we talked 196 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 4: about exactly this. I like what do we do right 197 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 4: because it's helpless. But I do think one so many 198 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:51,319 Speaker 4: things you're saying are literally like pouring into my DNA today, 199 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 4: Like I couldn't be any more in alignment with everything 200 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 4: you're saying, and it's validating in so many ways. But 201 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:00,720 Speaker 4: she essentially said, like we forget to just start where 202 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 4: we're at, and we're expending all this energy. But it's 203 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 4: the same thing. She said that the best thing you 204 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 4: can do is to regulate your own nervous system in 205 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 4: this moment. So take a walk, cook a meal, hug 206 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 4: your kids, because when we're all just chaotically bumping into 207 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:18,839 Speaker 4: each other and sharing the misinformation. I mean, I will 208 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 4: admittedly say I was a pray for Israel, when I 209 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 4: mean Biblically it says we're supposed to pray for Israel. 210 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:26,320 Speaker 3: So I was like, why I pray for Israel? 211 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 2: Right? 212 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 4: And I had followers right to me like okay, this 213 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 4: is what's happening, and I and we had the most 214 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 4: beautiful dialogue, but it was honest dialogue because I was 215 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 4: not afraid to say I don't know. But I can't 216 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 4: also get accurate information because there's an agenda woven between 217 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 4: everything that is going to frame something to be one 218 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:47,440 Speaker 4: way or the other. And truth over volume has always 219 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:53,440 Speaker 4: been my motto sonable it's a yeah, well, let's hope 220 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:55,560 Speaker 4: we can all write a book on it someday. But 221 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 4: it's just but like, the truth over volume is so 222 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 4: hard to find for us right now because our worlds 223 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:05,199 Speaker 4: are so inundated by by the influencers. I mean, we're 224 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:09,240 Speaker 4: friends with these people, I pseudo semi like you know, 225 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:11,719 Speaker 4: will say that I kind of am one, but it 226 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 4: is hard to really find what is truth and to 227 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 4: help then, Like I just think we have a bunch 228 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 4: of unqualified people saying a bunch of things that aren't true, 229 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:24,439 Speaker 4: and we're just all we're spinning into each other. 230 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 1: Amen. And I think and. 231 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 3: It does feel helpless. 232 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 4: So when you say, like start with you, I'm like, think, 233 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 4: thank you for giving us a start, Like nobody even 234 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 4: knows what is point A and to. 235 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 2: Start with you, Jasmin, what would you say is the 236 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:40,559 Speaker 2: first step on someone's healing journey? Like what is when 237 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 2: they're like I'm done with this, I want to start 238 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 2: the healing process. 239 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 3: Like what is that first? 240 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 2: Is it? Is it recognizing that or what would you say, 241 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:53,680 Speaker 2: like to be that first step into this the journey 242 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 2: of healing. 243 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:56,680 Speaker 1: Well, it's always understanding that we that something is off, 244 00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 1: and I think we know that it is we I 245 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 1: have to admit that I have a problem more, that 246 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:03,679 Speaker 1: something is not right. And I was reminded by that 247 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 1: through throughout your journey and the book, and you write 248 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 1: about that so beautifully. So many times I felt like, 249 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, she's literally telling my story. And it's 250 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 1: in that awareness that we first tune out the noise. 251 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 1: And I did this. I remember the book was really 252 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:23,840 Speaker 1: for me. I started writing it a decade ago when 253 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:27,200 Speaker 1: I went through a series of miscarriages. I had nine. 254 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:30,080 Speaker 1: And I know that that hits home for you too, Jana, 255 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:36,679 Speaker 1: And that's the We're always going to go through something. 256 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 1: No matter who you are and what you do in 257 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 1: this world, you are going to experience some kind of 258 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:44,839 Speaker 1: a hardship. So even back then, what I did was 259 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 1: say something has to change because this keeps showing up 260 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:52,319 Speaker 1: for me, meaning I either I changed or change the environment. 261 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 1: So I tuned out the noise. I said no to 262 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:58,199 Speaker 1: every happy hour, I said no to all of the events. 263 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:00,840 Speaker 1: I literally could coon myself in my eye and I 264 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:03,720 Speaker 1: focused on me, and that's what I needed at the time. 265 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 1: But even now, right now, I think that the healing 266 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 1: journey is so individual, and we have all of these 267 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 1: gurus telling us this is the exact prescription for how 268 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:16,600 Speaker 1: you heal, how you do X, Y and Z, and 269 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 1: there is no such a thing because we are so all, 270 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 1: so unique, so beautiful, so divinely manufactured orchestrated to be 271 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 1: in this world. So it starts with saying, what do 272 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 1: I first need right now? For some people is that 273 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 1: they need people, They need to reach out to others 274 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 1: and not be alone, and for others it's exactly the opposite. 275 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 1: So it's being radically honest with saying what is it 276 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 1: that I really truly need to heal? What I know 277 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 1: for sure is that it is difficult to heal today 278 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 1: in this very noisy world where there's incessant chatter, simply 279 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 1: because there's so much incoming and it's very difficult to 280 00:14:56,000 --> 00:15:00,040 Speaker 1: ask ourselves these questions when there's barrage of noise coming 281 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 1: at us and demands of life every single day. So 282 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 1: how do I make my world extremely small for just 283 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 1: a few weeks so I can actually ask myself what 284 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 1: I need and take the first step, and then I'm 285 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 1: a really big fan of simplifying and reducing my life, 286 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 1: saying no to everything that is absolutely unnecessary. An example 287 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 1: of this for so many of my mamas for doing 288 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 1: the bake baking muffins in school when they haven't had 289 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 1: any he sleep the night before because they've been up 290 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 1: with their newborn. That's not the time to be mom 291 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 1: of the year. That's the time to get more sleep. 292 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 1: So I think it's tuning out the noise and refocusing 293 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 1: on simplifying our lives so we can tune out the 294 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:46,400 Speaker 1: noise and hear the whispers of our own soul. When 295 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 1: we do that, the answers do come. 296 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 2: Whispers of my own soul. That's another book. 297 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's so true. It is true. 298 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 1: I do. 299 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 4: I call it soaking prayer in my bathtub at night, 300 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 4: and it's I tell my husband. I'm like because he'll say, like, oh, 301 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 4: can I come in and talk to you? 302 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 3: And I'm like, I. 303 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 4: Wish you could, but I need to hear my own 304 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:10,960 Speaker 4: heartbeat for a minute, like you, just because I mean, 305 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 4: we're moms, right, so like that even the people we've 306 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 4: created we love are noisy. So at some point it 307 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:21,680 Speaker 4: is about just like getting silent with yourself and you 308 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 4: also believe then I think I read this that you're 309 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 4: a big advocate for your space. Also like resembling the 310 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 4: amount of noise and kind of like what is the 311 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 4: reflecting words are really hard for me today, but reflecting 312 00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 4: kind of these the noiseless way of life. 313 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 2: To say this, even last night with the baby coming, 314 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 2: there's my house is a mess. There is like this, 315 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:48,840 Speaker 2: I'm looking at this, going I still got to hang that, 316 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 2: and then this, the nursery needs to be done, all 317 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 2: the things, and I'm like, I what I told my 318 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 2: fiance was I have to I need to have these 319 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 2: areas put together before the baby came, because I'm starting 320 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:06,240 Speaker 2: to just feel chaos kind of in my soul and 321 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 2: I feel agitated, and I don't want to have to 322 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 2: deal with this when the baby comes and I and 323 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:15,200 Speaker 2: but we have two rooms that are done. So there's 324 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:17,240 Speaker 2: the master, which is kind of my oasis. So when 325 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 2: I start to feel a little oh God, there's so 326 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 2: much to do, I just go sit in my room 327 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 2: and it's just it's very peaceful. So I'm so thankful 328 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 2: to have that. But last night there was just crap 329 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 2: everywhere on the island, and I'm the kind of person 330 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 2: I don't like sink. I don't like any stuff in 331 00:17:31,119 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 2: the sink. That's just I can't go to bed with 332 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:35,159 Speaker 2: stuff in the sink. It has to be in the 333 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:38,560 Speaker 2: dishwasher or running or whatever. And I just looked at it, 334 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:40,680 Speaker 2: and you know when it just feels like everything's being 335 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:41,400 Speaker 2: left for. 336 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:42,960 Speaker 3: You to to do, which. 337 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:47,520 Speaker 2: I know and I don't think they like it because 338 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 2: he don't mean the biggest help wherever, like he's amazing 339 00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:52,359 Speaker 2: around the house. But just in that moment, I just 340 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 2: saw everything and I was just like, I'm a ticking 341 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:58,680 Speaker 2: time bomb. And we got like a week to get 342 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:02,360 Speaker 2: this train roll here. And so I think for you, Jasmine, 343 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 2: like what I'm obviously you you're in alignment with that too, 344 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:09,000 Speaker 2: that you need things put together in the house. 345 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:10,040 Speaker 3: Is that kind of what. 346 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 4: We're what we're simplified declared. 347 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:14,200 Speaker 1: But there's a brea good reason. 348 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:17,480 Speaker 4: Tell us everything. I'm drinking everything you're saying with a straw, 349 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:18,600 Speaker 4: I'm like, tell me. 350 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 1: It has become such a big part of my life. 351 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:26,439 Speaker 1: I actually went for three years. I researched, had my 352 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:29,800 Speaker 1: spiritual teacher, and then I went really deep into quantum physics, 353 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 1: and I'm like, wait a minute, these two branches are 354 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:37,200 Speaker 1: talking about exactly the same thing. Let me write about 355 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 1: it in a way that's really understandable. So there's a 356 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:43,440 Speaker 1: there's a science behind why we feel distraught when things 357 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 1: are all over the place, the messy kitchen, the messy environment, 358 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 1: everything in our space. Our spaces are not empty, they're 359 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 1: fully alive. We think of space as empty, but it 360 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 1: actually carries information, and that is this information, this vie 361 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 1: information that can be molded and changed with our thoughts, 362 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:09,200 Speaker 1: with the things that are in our environment. So when 363 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:11,680 Speaker 1: we have a lot of clutter and things are all 364 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 1: over the place, that creates something in physics called negentropy, 365 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:19,200 Speaker 1: And what that means is that every part of that 366 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:23,440 Speaker 1: clutter or things out of place creates disorder in our 367 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:27,320 Speaker 1: minds and carries that energy that then envelops us. So 368 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 1: what I've learned in my research is that we can 369 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 1: actually create holy spaces in our homes and mimic the 370 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 1: energy that we feel, for example, in Westminster Abbey or 371 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 1: a temple or church. Every time we go into a 372 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 1: holy space where there's reverence, it's actually no miracle. It's physics, 373 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 1: people go into that space every single day that's orderly, 374 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:54,000 Speaker 1: and they condition it with their good thoughts wishes, and 375 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 1: over time that space imprints the energy of our own 376 00:19:57,760 --> 00:20:01,439 Speaker 1: emotions and thoughts. It starts really first and foremost with 377 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:04,320 Speaker 1: the physical clutter, because that is the easiest way to 378 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 1: fix our environment and change it. So I always tell everyone, 379 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 1: if you're feeling all over the place, really first and foremost, 380 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:13,720 Speaker 1: even for your dinner right now, I'm like, I can't 381 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:16,280 Speaker 1: even imagine or remember being in the last weeks and 382 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:18,960 Speaker 1: feeling like, oh my god, my whole life is going 383 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:23,919 Speaker 1: to change again. You can just set this intention of right, 384 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:27,119 Speaker 1: you can just set an intention of you know what, 385 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 1: I'm going to take a deep breath in and a 386 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:33,920 Speaker 1: deep breath out, and I will handle this before baby arrives. 387 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 1: And that intention molds not just your reality. We now 388 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:44,720 Speaker 1: know through observer effect in quantum physics that our thoughts 389 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:49,919 Speaker 1: change physical matter, and intention is a focused thought. So 390 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 1: if you do that, you're molding your environment. You're making 391 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:58,639 Speaker 1: your future so and then you're also changing the material 392 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 1: composition of your and making sure that your space reacts 393 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 1: to you as well. If that makes sense. Does that 394 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:06,480 Speaker 1: make sense because I don't want to be too sciencey, 395 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 1: but this is really important for us to know. 396 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 3: It makes so much sense. I love the idea. 397 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:14,560 Speaker 4: I was just as you were saying, I'm like, what 398 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 4: spaces in my house feel holy to me? Because there 399 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 4: are certain rooms that are less than holy right now, 400 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:24,639 Speaker 4: my closet being one of them. Make another yes, oh yeah. 401 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:27,199 Speaker 4: But it's funny because we didn't find out if we 402 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:29,240 Speaker 4: were having a boy or girl. We had a little 403 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:31,680 Speaker 4: girl five months ago, and so there was the chaos 404 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 4: of like where does everything you know your but I 405 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:38,120 Speaker 4: have to design and create I call it habitats around 406 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:40,320 Speaker 4: the people and their energy, you know, like I need 407 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:43,480 Speaker 4: to know them first. And now her room is probably 408 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 4: like the holiest place in my house to me. Like 409 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:48,879 Speaker 4: I go in and I'm like, ah, but it's so 410 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:53,000 Speaker 4: like almost soaked in gratitude or something that I feel 411 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:55,440 Speaker 4: it when I walk in. And now I'm like, well, 412 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 4: I just have work to do in every other room 413 00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 4: in the house, because it doesn't matter how cute it is. 414 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 4: There's just a lot of I do feel that, like cluttering, 415 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 4: just crap. Every We've been in our house for seven 416 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:07,399 Speaker 4: years and all of a sudden You're like, how did 417 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:08,360 Speaker 4: all this stuff get here? 418 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 3: We chose it, But I don't like that. 419 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:12,920 Speaker 1: It's yeah, it's so easy. We live in a world 420 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:14,879 Speaker 1: where I feel like things are just coming out and 421 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:17,439 Speaker 1: they're not coming in and they're not coming out. But 422 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:21,240 Speaker 1: see what you did in the nursery, right, And that 423 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:24,679 Speaker 1: is so incredibly important for new moms because you know, 424 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:26,639 Speaker 1: I'm looking at you, Jane, I'm like, you're going to 425 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:30,200 Speaker 1: be so tired in a few weeks. And I always 426 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 1: felt like whenever I was feeding, it was a holy 427 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:35,480 Speaker 1: place because it was a place that it's going to 428 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:39,399 Speaker 1: embrace me. So we can actually change the energy of 429 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 1: any space now if we can. You know, there's I 430 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 1: have a husband and i have two boys, So I'm 431 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:48,480 Speaker 1: not even going to attempt to claim the entire house 432 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:52,360 Speaker 1: because it is impossible. There's just nowhere. But I can 433 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:56,400 Speaker 1: claim a dominion over one room, over one corner where 434 00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 1: it can be a holy ir reverence space. Develo uphold me. 435 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 1: And here's why that's important. Every day we go into 436 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:06,439 Speaker 1: the world and we can now measure our field, our 437 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 1: energetic field. We can measure it up to six feet 438 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:13,680 Speaker 1: around us. And Heart Math Institute has done beautiful research 439 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 1: around our heart, which is five thousand more times more important, 440 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 1: more more impactful, and bigger than that of the brain. 441 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:25,720 Speaker 1: So we're going around in our days bumping into each 442 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:29,440 Speaker 1: other field. Majority of those fields are discordant. There are 443 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 1: anxious energies, too much overwhelmed. Then when we come into 444 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 1: our house, we need an oasis, a space that will 445 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:41,880 Speaker 1: that will embrace it, embrace us, They will hug us, 446 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:45,439 Speaker 1: they will literally let our worries and cares of the 447 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:49,280 Speaker 1: world melt into that space, just like a mother's arms 448 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:52,960 Speaker 1: do that for a baby that's in distress. That is 449 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:56,120 Speaker 1: the importance of having our space. It's not just an 450 00:23:56,160 --> 00:24:00,320 Speaker 1: abode in which we eat, braids, sleep. It's so much 451 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:02,919 Speaker 1: more than that. And I think that by doing that, 452 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:07,200 Speaker 1: it's a radical way of changing the world. How when 453 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:10,760 Speaker 1: I come I cohere all systems within myself. I can 454 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 1: come into my bath and I can bless the water, 455 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:16,800 Speaker 1: and I can really come into the space where I'm 456 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:19,960 Speaker 1: becoming more aligned with who I am. And then when 457 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:21,919 Speaker 1: I go on the next day into the world of 458 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 1: those bumping fields and discordant energies, I become the light 459 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 1: in this world. So for me, that's my mission how 460 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 1: do I make this world a better place? And I 461 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:35,440 Speaker 1: always ask myself, how does it start with me? Where 462 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:37,600 Speaker 1: do I have to make the changes? And the home 463 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:40,040 Speaker 1: is one of those simple things that doesn't cost a 464 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 1: thing and we can do that. 465 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:57,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I love that. And in Healer and Heels to 466 00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:01,879 Speaker 2: talk about because I feel with you know, life and 467 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 2: kids and impending deliveries and anxious feelings. Is there any 468 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 2: good tips you write in the book about how to 469 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 2: calm that anxious mind because I definitely go too. 470 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:14,960 Speaker 3: And I'm trying. 471 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 2: To switch my thoughts because I know thoughts become and 472 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 2: so I'm every day I wake up and I go, 473 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:24,520 Speaker 2: I'm going to be okay, Baby's going to be okay. Everyone, 474 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:27,159 Speaker 2: It's like, what's Everything's going to be okay? Because in 475 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:28,400 Speaker 2: my mind, I'm like, it's not going to be okay. 476 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:29,720 Speaker 2: And oh my god, the doctor said this could happen, 477 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:31,240 Speaker 2: and this could happen, and oh my god, I could code 478 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:34,440 Speaker 2: and it's just all the things. So I'm like, what 479 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 2: are some good tips to just breathe in peace? 480 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:41,200 Speaker 1: Well, I'm going to go back to what we discussed earlier. 481 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:43,520 Speaker 1: The first is to tune out the noise as much 482 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:45,200 Speaker 1: as the outside knows that you. 483 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:48,160 Speaker 3: Can hear, but it's my noise though. That's the problem. 484 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:52,440 Speaker 3: How do you have your own it's my own mind. 485 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:55,399 Speaker 1: So if you've tuned out the world, that's wonderful. It 486 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:59,639 Speaker 1: really starts with we're always the regulating our nervous system 487 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:03,240 Speaker 1: by taking a deep breath and they breath in and out. 488 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:07,639 Speaker 1: And what that does is that we cannot hold peace 489 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:11,480 Speaker 1: and fear, or peace and anxiousness at the same time 490 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:14,280 Speaker 1: in our soul, heart and mind. It is impossible. Our 491 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 1: brain doesn't work that way. So wherever we're placing our 492 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 1: attention is what is going to grow. So all of 493 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:23,000 Speaker 1: us will wake up in the morning and say, oh 494 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:24,080 Speaker 1: my god, I have so much to do. How am 495 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:26,160 Speaker 1: I going to do it? This is impossible, there's no way, 496 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 1: and there's barrage of things, and just in a moment, 497 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:34,120 Speaker 1: you can just stop and immediately say everything is going 498 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:36,040 Speaker 1: to be all right, And you say it in a 499 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:39,679 Speaker 1: slow and methodical way, because again it's that intention. And 500 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:44,720 Speaker 1: remember that intention changes physical matter, it changes atoms. So 501 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:47,200 Speaker 1: this is not to be downplayed. And saying that, why, 502 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:50,400 Speaker 1: I know the thought thoughts change, you know, my reality. 503 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:53,720 Speaker 1: We say it with such such little bit of a 504 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:57,000 Speaker 1: lack of reference reverence. I think that it's just repeating 505 00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 1: it to ourselves. Everything is going to be all right, 506 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 1: and so it is. And that would be the first, 507 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:07,600 Speaker 1: very first step. The second is to surround ourselves with 508 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:14,399 Speaker 1: somehow some part of nature. Trees are incredibly powerful, or 509 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:19,119 Speaker 1: greenery or plants in completely downregulating our nervous system. And 510 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:22,480 Speaker 1: here's how. There's a practice that starts in Japan called 511 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:27,400 Speaker 1: shinrin yoku, which translates to forest baiting. It started as 512 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:30,600 Speaker 1: an antidote these really really busy lives, and it now 513 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 1: shows that it has actually been incredibly transformative for us 514 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 1: because it immediately within twenty minutes of being among the trees, 515 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:43,280 Speaker 1: they produce something called fighting sides, which is a chemical 516 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 1: that somehow plays with our chemical composition, and within twenty 517 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 1: minutes regulates and lowers cortisol and adrenaline and increases oxytocin, 518 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:58,640 Speaker 1: increases the cancer fighting proteins. That just makes us really 519 00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:03,160 Speaker 1: really really good. These are the physical manifestations and things 520 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:05,600 Speaker 1: that we can actually measure in a lab. I draw 521 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:07,919 Speaker 1: my blood before and after I go into the forest, 522 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:12,280 Speaker 1: and boom, it's an immediate thing that suits my physical body. 523 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 1: But I think what it does, and this is a 524 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:17,639 Speaker 1: little bit more difficult to measure. It's subjective, but I 525 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 1: believe it does something to us. Studies show now that 526 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:24,080 Speaker 1: trees actually talk to each other, not in a way 527 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:27,320 Speaker 1: that we are talking, but they communicate one another, warning 528 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:33,080 Speaker 1: themselves when there's danger ahead, when there's any kind of danger, 529 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:34,959 Speaker 1: or they need more water, or they need to protect 530 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:38,520 Speaker 1: themselves from something coming. I also believe that the trees 531 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 1: can feel that we're there, So it's another way where 532 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:46,480 Speaker 1: I feel enveloped. And that physical lowering of adrenaline and 533 00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:51,560 Speaker 1: cortisol coincides with lowering and slowing down our thoughts, so 534 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:55,600 Speaker 1: we can take a bigger inhale and have a bigger exhale. 535 00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:57,960 Speaker 1: And those are the kind of thing and the third 536 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:02,640 Speaker 1: thing that I really really sometimes it's very difficult for 537 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:07,520 Speaker 1: me to meditate where my mind is rasing prayer. And 538 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:10,680 Speaker 1: there's an entire chapter in the book about prayer and 539 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:15,200 Speaker 1: the science of prayer of how important it is. Regardless 540 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:18,120 Speaker 1: of your faith or even if you are religious or not, 541 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:22,960 Speaker 1: you can say a prayer of goodness or well intention 542 00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:26,400 Speaker 1: for someone else, and just by sitting in the space 543 00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:29,640 Speaker 1: and saying, Dear God, today I'm going to say a 544 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:34,200 Speaker 1: prayer for Jana. May her days be soul peaceful, May 545 00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:38,120 Speaker 1: her preparation for the baby be so effortless, and may 546 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:41,560 Speaker 1: develop her with light. May she come into the state 547 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:45,520 Speaker 1: where she's so fully prepared to welcome this beautiful, incredible 548 00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:50,040 Speaker 1: miracle into the world. And may everything be just the 549 00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:53,720 Speaker 1: way it is. So science says that when we do that, 550 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 1: not only does it work, intercestory prayer has been shown 551 00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:02,400 Speaker 1: to have incredible res and that's because of that Higgs field. 552 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:05,920 Speaker 1: I change as a results. So when I pray for you, 553 00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:09,040 Speaker 1: I feel so good because I'm connecting to the field 554 00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:13,240 Speaker 1: of potentiality of goodness, and then it changes my chemical composition. 555 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:16,200 Speaker 1: So just know that for the next few weeks, my prayers, 556 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,680 Speaker 1: morning prayers, You're going to be in them so and 557 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:19,680 Speaker 1: you're going to feel them. 558 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:25,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, I just thank you, and I'm so excited 559 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 2: now to get your book, Healer and Heels, And I 560 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:30,960 Speaker 2: appreciate everything you said, and I will say, Michigan, Jana 561 00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:33,800 Speaker 2: is why up north is my favorite place in the world. 562 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:36,320 Speaker 2: The water, the trees, all of it. 563 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 3: It's just. 564 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:41,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so I totally agree with you on the 565 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:44,080 Speaker 2: tree aspect. But Jasna, where can our listeners find you? 566 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:47,920 Speaker 1: I spend most of my time on Instagram at Yasna 567 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:53,160 Speaker 1: dot Borza, and I'm happy to answer any questions. And 568 00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:57,160 Speaker 1: I that's really it. I don't have. 569 00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:01,960 Speaker 2: Sorry, I americanized your name with jazz. It's okay, Yana, Yeah, 570 00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:04,240 Speaker 2: I know, okay, like people call me Yana from over there. 571 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's. 572 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:10,800 Speaker 1: Quite all right. There's really there's for me. I'm there's 573 00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:13,000 Speaker 1: nothing that I sell. There's not there. I don't have 574 00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:16,200 Speaker 1: a product. There's nothing that that you. 575 00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:18,560 Speaker 2: Got Healer and heels girl, and everyone needs to go there. 576 00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:21,520 Speaker 1: That's right. Yeah, the book because it's incredibly healing. But 577 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:23,480 Speaker 1: I just really want to remind all of us that 578 00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:25,680 Speaker 1: we are the ones that we have been waiting for 579 00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:28,400 Speaker 1: and that there comes a time for everyone in our 580 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:33,920 Speaker 1: lives where I'm just so reminded of Matthew Perry passing. 581 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:36,720 Speaker 1: Despite all of the abundance fit material that we may 582 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:40,200 Speaker 1: accumulate in our lives, sometimes our demons are there to 583 00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:43,560 Speaker 1: haunt us. So unless we attend to those, we can't 584 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:45,760 Speaker 1: really create the goodness in the world. So when we 585 00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:50,520 Speaker 1: get to the point we should try and tell ourselves 586 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:53,920 Speaker 1: we have arrived. How may I be of service in 587 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:55,880 Speaker 1: this world? And that's how we change the world and 588 00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:58,280 Speaker 1: be the light in this world. And I'm so thankful 589 00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:02,600 Speaker 1: to you for this huge honor. I adore you to pieces. 590 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:04,320 Speaker 1: Thank you for having me. 591 00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:08,360 Speaker 2: Thank you, Juvelie, thank you so much. I appreciate you. 592 00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:09,360 Speaker 3: I want to hug you. 593 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:11,840 Speaker 2: I know anytime you're in Nashville, let us know. Please 594 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,360 Speaker 2: love your friend. Thank you so much. Everyone go get 595 00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:16,680 Speaker 2: a healer and heels by Yasna Versa. 596 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:17,360 Speaker 1: Thank you friend,