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Speaker 1: Podcast starts now. Wow wow wow, wow wow. Welcome to

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Speaker 1: Stradio Lab. We are recording for the first time in

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Speaker 1: a while, and so it feels so fresh and so new.

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Speaker 2: I mean, people don't realize this kind of peak behind

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Speaker 2: the curtain rarely really delivers on the drama we wanted to.

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Speaker 2: But we're gonna go ahead and do it anyway. And

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Speaker 2: it is that we really have not recorded a normal episode,

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Speaker 2: non Patreon episode since November. So this is not only

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Speaker 2: our first episode recording of the new year, it is

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Speaker 2: our first episode of like Winter.

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Speaker 3: I'll say Winter, Yeah, first episode of Winter.

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Speaker 2: Also, I will say not to immediately make this into

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Speaker 2: sponsored content for our own paid tier, but in that

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Speaker 2: in the meantime, there have been NonStop revelations from both

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Speaker 2: of us in the Patreon episodes that the normal that

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Speaker 2: the normal listeners, the casual listeners have no idea about.

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Speaker 1: Of course, how could they.

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Speaker 2: And by the way, we're not gonna I'm not going

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Speaker 2: to repeat them here.

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Speaker 1: No, well, I forgot them as soon as I said.

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Speaker 2: But both of us have revealed personal updates, professional updates,

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Speaker 2: political updates. We're both changing political parties. Yeah, they're there,

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Speaker 2: and and I'm not joking that there has been a lot.

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Speaker 2: There have been a lot of updates on the Patreon,

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Speaker 2: and so if you want to know them, go there.

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Speaker 2: And if you want us to be sort of personalityless

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Speaker 2: and palatable for the range of American tastes, then I

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Speaker 1: Wow. I this is a hard pitch up top, and

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Speaker 1: it is an interesting sign from right back from break.

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Speaker 1: I will have to share a personal update, which is

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Speaker 1: that I'm in LA and that needs to be said

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Speaker 1: because you are on Zoom.

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Speaker 2: Essentially, I'm on Zoom and you and our guest, who

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Speaker 2: feel more left out. And I'll say it. I'm also sick.

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Speaker 2: And I'm also not in the normal place my home

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Speaker 2: I feel pushed aside, I feel put in a box.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean you. Our guest said, you know, should

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Speaker 1: And I said, you know, I think he needs this.

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Speaker 1: I think he will live through this, and he will

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Speaker 1: come out a stronger podcaster than ever before. And I

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Speaker 1: actually in this conversation, I also said I have a

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, which I would love to hear.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So I was re listening to our Amber rough

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Speaker 1: that appens, I was talking about my hospital stay yes,

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Speaker 1: and you know, we joked that because we were recording

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Speaker 1: time you listen to it, I'll be back in the hospital.

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Speaker 1: Guess what. Oh no, when it came out on Tuesday,

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Speaker 3: What the hell?

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Speaker 1: I went to the hospital in Los Angeles, California, Beverly Hills,

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Speaker 2: Why did you go to the hospital on Beverly Hills?

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Speaker 1: Well, because I need the best. Okay, go on, what

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Speaker 1: am I gonna go?

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Speaker 4: What?

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go to the hospital in the valley?

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Speaker 4: What you know?

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Speaker 1: What do you think? Dead?

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Speaker 2: Do you think we sort of cursed it by releasing

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Speaker 2: that episode into this time period and then it almost

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Speaker 1: I fully think I've been cursed. I think I've been

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Speaker 1: cursed in many different ways because now I'm Taylor Swift fan,

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Speaker 2: Okay, is that related to the reason you were in

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Speaker 3: What the hell?

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Speaker 1: A fully different issue. And guess what. Guess who said

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Speaker 1: I've been cursed.

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Speaker 1: Because you were she had sight, She had sight, she

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Speaker 2: I think she said that because you were saying something

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Speaker 2: And she goes, I hate to look at your kidneys

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Speaker 1: And she was right, she needed to, but it wasn't

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Speaker 1: It was not my fault. I'm completely guilt free. In fact,

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Speaker 3: Okay, So, and that is not to stretch you out.

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Speaker 2: This is different completely than the medical issues you were

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Speaker 1: So Okay. So when I had the issues in New York,

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Speaker 1: He was like, you should eventually get looked at. It

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Speaker 1: Then the doctor in La smoked spoke like a dramatic

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Speaker 1: And then I was like, oh my god, I completely

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Speaker 1: I mean the way that my LA doctor was literally

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: He was auditioning for Gray's Anatomy.

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Speaker 3: He was shadowing a real doctor.

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Speaker 1: so he was just doing it himself. Well, how are

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Speaker 3: They did a surgery.

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Speaker 1: I got a surgery on Tuesday, and then I recovered

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Speaker 2: Okay, I don't want to make this about me, but

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Speaker 2: like I just can't. I mean, I can't believe it

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Speaker 1: Well, I knew we'd be talking on Saturday, so I

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Speaker 2: This is literally like when I told you I was

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Speaker 2: engaged in a Patreon episode. I think we actually like

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Speaker 2: need to reassess how how like Creator Pilled we have

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Speaker 1: This is so true, Oh my god, this is.

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Speaker 2: I don't I don't like this for for either of us.

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Speaker 1: But we're not good at texting, or.

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Speaker 3: I mean, we do text most things.

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Speaker 1: That's true, but what am I gonna do? Hey, I'm

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Speaker 1: getting surgery. And then it's like, yeah, well I called

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Speaker 2: He approved it, So Matthew's dad knows, but I don't.

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Speaker 2: He does have I mean, there is doctor patient confidentiality,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we didn't. You know, he's allowed. I told him.

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Speaker 1: I said, I don't believe in privacy. Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, he's posting your kronoscopy on his fin staff

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Speaker 2: the colopis yeah, colopicks damn.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. Yeah. And this time I did it without

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Speaker 1: even posting a close friend saying I guess when I'm in.

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Speaker 2: another close friends it was like, I'm fine. So people

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Speaker 2: really need to with regards to their health actually and

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Speaker 2: their personal life. Really questioned the relationship to social media

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Speaker 2: and the relationship to Patreon podcasting. Yeah, because we are

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Speaker 2: losing our humanity.

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Speaker 1: The creator mindset is the dark dark path that as

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Speaker 1: a society we have gone down.

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Speaker 2: You know, it really is true, and it's not just

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Speaker 2: for actual creators, it's for everyone.

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Speaker 1: Well, because everyone's a creator.

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Speaker 2: Everyone's a creator or they're dead, or they're dead.

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Speaker 1: We don't want this. It's just our society.

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Speaker 2: Damn well, I society.

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Speaker 1: Yes, should be bringing our guests.

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Speaker 2: I think we should. I had, like, I had some

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Speaker 2: i'd much ratter say them with our guest in the room.

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Speaker 1: Our guest is in the room with me. Actually, right,

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Speaker 1: thank you, And you know we couldn't be happier to

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Speaker 1: have her on today. Please welcome to the podcast The

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Speaker 1: Luminary Anna Sarah Gina.

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Speaker 4: Oh my god, thank you.

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Speaker 2: Well, Facebook just gives a like everything about it, even

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Speaker 4: Yeah, oh I have it. I own a lawn sleeve

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Speaker 2: Make it work. And then Christians was like, I don't

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Speaker 1: Second, I love you. Let's leave those arms. Mom.

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Speaker 2: Well you know what it is. It's like it went

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Speaker 3: You don't think Gypsy ros Blanchard has legs. She killed

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Speaker 2: Well, she's sort of a quintessential glamour girl.

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Speaker 1: She's slay Mama, she's mama, but she's she's glamorous, she's wounded,

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Speaker 2: Well, hold on, now, I'm like defending her eyes in

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Speaker 1: Well she was. She was iconically dressed, but Munchausen dressed, like, yes,

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Speaker 2: Oh the way that like you see something happening in

445
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Speaker 2: real time and then you can immediately like that's so raven.

446
00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:52,280
Speaker 2: Have a vision of every chapter of the next three months,

447
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Speaker 2: how it's going to evolve in the public consciousness and

448
00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:57,280
Speaker 2: on the internet. Yeah, truly, where is the fun in that?

449
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Speaker 1: Where's the fun in it? And it used to feel

450
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Speaker 1: new and fresh to like take this like, you know,

451
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Speaker 1: weird figure from the public and make them a star.

452
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Speaker 4: And yeah, you're thinking of Ken Bone of course.

453
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Speaker 2: Well, of course was the gypsy Rose of his time.

454
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Speaker 4: Absolutely, oh my god.

455
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Speaker 1: And he didn't even do it. Lunch House needed it

456
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Speaker 1: all on his own.

457
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, he just think about wearing a quarter zip.

458
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Speaker 4: Oh my god, he wore quartersip will change.

459
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Speaker 2: It was back when it was enough to just wear

460
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Speaker 2: a quarterszip on TV.

461
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Speaker 1: That's that's all it was.

462
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Speaker 4: But recently I did mention pregnant submarines the two words

463
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Speaker 4: to someone and casual conversation. They didn't know. I had

464
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Speaker 4: to go back. I was tasked with reintroducing ken Bone

465
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Speaker 4: into the.

466
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Speaker 1: Wait wait, I don't know the pregnant submarines.

467
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Speaker 4: Oh he was. He was on Reddit and someone found

468
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Speaker 4: his user name and he was posting in these.

469
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Speaker 2: Like ken Bone, yes guys, Oh no, this is good,

470
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Speaker 2: this is good.

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Speaker 4: Keep going all right, well if I must, I mean,

472
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Speaker 4: he's on these subreddits and he was going, he's really

473
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Speaker 4: into I think, just having sex.

474
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Speaker 1: With pregnant women, and I think, oh, he was in tune.

475
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Speaker 4: So he was like and use the words they are

476
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Speaker 4: like beautiful submarines, which is very endearing because it's.

477
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Speaker 2: Not really I find that very actually, like that endears

478
00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:13,960
Speaker 2: me more to him than that, I know, than before.

479
00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:14,840
Speaker 2: It's the problem.

480
00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:17,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're like, it's cute that he doesn't know whom

481
00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:20,640
Speaker 4: he's going to vote for. Yeah, right, he thinks they're

482
00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:21,680
Speaker 4: pregnant submarines.

483
00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:26,240
Speaker 2: Well, he is sort of the male version of Rebecca Walsh.

484
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Speaker 4: He really is, really absolutely he's our w Wow.

485
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Speaker 1: I'm looking for Rebecca Walsh's one end of a spectrum.

486
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Speaker 1: I'm looking for the other end of the spectrum.

487
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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, are we talking the spectrum of normal human,

488
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Speaker 2: like the spectrum of like average American.

489
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Speaker 4: Well, if there's people who are making content, they're making

490
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Speaker 4: do with what they can make content about, right, They're like.

491
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Speaker 1: It's almost like there's Rebecca Walsh and there's Jeffree Stars.

492
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Speaker 1: That's kind of what I'm thinking.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, you're absolutely right, you're absolutely rely.

494
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Speaker 4: Yes, there's like we're trying to make spectacle out of

495
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Speaker 4: my oven. That's Rebecca Walsh new oven, and you guys

496
00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:02,920
Speaker 4: have to see the placement of this.

497
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Speaker 2: Oven, right, And then Jeffree Star is like I will murder, Yeah.

498
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Speaker 1: Absolutely, for one million views. I will murder.

499
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Speaker 2: For one million views, I will murder. Please vote.

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Speaker 4: Have to say, having watched Jeffree Star, I must admit

501
00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:17,639
Speaker 4: tail between my legs. I was kind of a MySpace

502
00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:20,919
Speaker 4: I was. I was part of a certain counter not

503
00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:24,200
Speaker 4: even counter cult, just some part of a certain movement moment.

504
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Speaker 4: And so seeing Jeffree Star his his star kind of

505
00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:35,720
Speaker 4: pop off like that in him still be around is

506
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Speaker 4: kind of crazy. And then be so serve cunt, so

507
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Speaker 4: so hard and it's so awful is so interesting.

508
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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean it really it Like again, we're

509
00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:50,920
Speaker 2: not making it. I'm not making an original point here,

510
00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:54,240
Speaker 2: but it just is about who can do the who

511
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Speaker 2: can consistently create the most yes, and who is the

512
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Speaker 2: most evil, and those people will win the content game.

513
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Speaker 4: I agree. Yeah, that's why I think my theory is

514
00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:09,200
Speaker 4: that it's all when commercials became funny. That's that's the

515
00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:13,320
Speaker 4: genesis of like game over, everything's done, everything's in the toilet.

516
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Speaker 4: Culture is done because if commercials are funny. Also not

517
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Speaker 4: an original thought, but like if commercial commercials are funny,

518
00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:25,600
Speaker 4: and then like whatever mass production and you know what

519
00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:29,960
Speaker 4: am I thinking? What's the word commodification of? Like whatever?

520
00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:32,000
Speaker 4: You know? Like I think it was like Tim and

521
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Speaker 4: Eric made an Absolute vodka commercial or something.

522
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Speaker 1: I remember it, well done, We're done, but I liked

523
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Speaker 1: that commercial.

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Speaker 4: That's the problem that you go, it could be so

525
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Speaker 4: cool to buy vodka.

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Speaker 1: I didn't ever say that, And you're always in an

527
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Speaker 1: interesting you know.

528
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Speaker 2: Absolute vodka does specifically cater to Sam and my taste,

529
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Speaker 2: which is that it does gay marketing and it does

530
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Speaker 2: timineric marketing, and that exact VENN diagram is where we live.

531
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Speaker 1: And yet I've never bought Absolute. No a lot to

532
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Speaker 1: chew on here? Should we do it? For a segment. Now, yes, wow,

533
00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:22,359
Speaker 1: And our first segment is called straight Shooters, And in

534
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:24,000
Speaker 1: this segment, we're going to ask you a series of

535
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Speaker 1: rapidfier questions to gauge your familiarity with and complicity in

536
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:30,120
Speaker 1: straight culture. Basically, it's this thing or this other thing.

537
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Speaker 1: And the only rule is you can't ask any follow

538
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 1: up questions or we will scream and yell at you,

539
00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:37,600
Speaker 1: which is okay, okay.

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Speaker 2: Oh oh, that's a new element.

541
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's okay to yell. That's el Sam, Yeah, it's

542
00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:45,920
Speaker 1: ok Is it okay to yell? That's actually a.

543
00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:47,320
Speaker 2: Larger existential question.

544
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Speaker 1: I think it's actually okay to yell. Yeah, it's more honest. Yeah, Well,

545
00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:56,119
Speaker 1: what I'm going to bottle up my feelings to do

546
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Speaker 1: a school shooting?

547
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Speaker 3: No, I'm going to get it right. Well, that is

548
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Speaker 3: sort of the central question.

549
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:04,359
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna do it school shooting because Anna didn't

550
00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:06,160
Speaker 1: do the segment right because I didn't get to yell.

551
00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:09,040
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna yell. Yeah.

552
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:12,760
Speaker 2: I guess yelling is like targeting one person and if

553
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:15,320
Speaker 2: you don't yell, then you end up causing harm to

554
00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:19,359
Speaker 2: even more people. The community a community, a community because

555
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:21,240
Speaker 2: you know, and obviously the school shooting is were of

556
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:24,040
Speaker 2: a metaphor. But I think, you know, it's like, if

557
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:26,359
Speaker 2: you're not yelling at the one person, then you're going

558
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:29,280
Speaker 2: out and being a terrible coworker. You're going out and

559
00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:33,320
Speaker 2: being a reckless driver. But then of course it becomes

560
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 2: the you know, railroad question of like, do you save

561
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:42,880
Speaker 2: one person will save multiple people? The train track, not railroad.

562
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Speaker 1: Well, trains and rails. Yeah, I don't see a difference between.

563
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:49,200
Speaker 4: Okay, but also tesla, but also tesla.

564
00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:51,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, put them a Tesla.

565
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:55,320
Speaker 2: And then get back tesla. We're going to the school shooting.

566
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Speaker 1: Come on, because we didn't yell.

567
00:27:58,240 --> 00:27:59,959
Speaker 4: We didn't yell.

568
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:02,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, this is why everyone needs a boxing class.

569
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:06,040
Speaker 1: I've just realized that's actually the fix for everything. M Yeah,

570
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:13,320
Speaker 1: more violence, more approved violence. Yes, more space for violence, curated, curated, urated,

571
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:17,920
Speaker 1: created violence. Of course we're gonna want violence. We're human beings, obviously,

572
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:22,520
Speaker 1: of course it's in our veins, some more than others.

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Speaker 2: That is such an interesting thing to me when people,

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Speaker 2: when people point to the worst of human behavior as

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Speaker 2: the foundation as human nature, Like you look around, most

576
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:36,040
Speaker 2: people at any given time are not murdering They are

577
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Speaker 2: not you know, neglecting their children. They are not having

578
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:45,080
Speaker 2: giant blowout fights. And yet because some people are, people

579
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:46,400
Speaker 2: look at them and they say, that's human.

580
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 4: Nature, that's human nature.

581
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Speaker 2: But why is the minority of human nature?

582
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Speaker 1: Well, I do think that people with bad human nature

583
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Speaker 1: are often the most They're like the ones that sort

584
00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:59,360
Speaker 1: of crave power too. I think there's something about even

585
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Speaker 1: though it's already it's people that want to shape things.

586
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:05,320
Speaker 2: Totally.

587
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:07,360
Speaker 4: For me, you would go, oh, I guess it's human

588
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:10,880
Speaker 4: nature to be watching seven seasons of Wife Swap. Yeah,

589
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 4: human nature.

590
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Speaker 1: It's human nature to be like I'm a podcaster.

591
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:18,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, totally, that's human nature. Yeah.

592
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:20,360
Speaker 2: Well we talk about this all the time. But it

593
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:23,240
Speaker 2: goes back to the reason democracy's flawed is because it

594
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Speaker 2: privileges the types of people who want to run for president.

595
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:29,400
Speaker 2: But you actually have to force like a random mom

596
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Speaker 2: to be the president of the United States, whether she

597
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:32,480
Speaker 2: wants to or not.

598
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:34,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, it has to be hunger game style.

599
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:37,360
Speaker 2: And so in that sense, it actually can be democratic

600
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Speaker 2: because someone needs to be violently forced into being the president.

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Speaker 4: And that's why Battle Star Glactica it was really onto

602
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:46,440
Speaker 4: something secretary, you know, school secretary.

603
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:49,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, we need to shoot some secretaries into space and

604
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:49,800
Speaker 2: see what happens.

605
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:53,880
Speaker 4: That's exactly what I'm saying. Absolutely. Twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 1: The future is here.

607
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:56,080
Speaker 4: The future is here.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so are you ready to play? Yes? Okay, let

609
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Speaker 1: me open my notes. App Okay, Anna.

610
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:13,240
Speaker 2: Facelift or forklift forklift playing Jane or Lazy Susan, Lazy Susan.

611
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:17,280
Speaker 1: Okay, a triple threat or a double major triple threat.

612
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:21,400
Speaker 2: The Nike swoosh or that guy's a douche.

613
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:26,240
Speaker 4: Mmmm, the Nike Swoosh.

614
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:28,440
Speaker 1: Blue no matter who, or blue Ska dude. You can too.

615
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:37,080
Speaker 4: See blue skadude, so you can too, reluctantly.

616
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:39,880
Speaker 3: Shooting the ship or taking the piss.

617
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:44,360
Speaker 4: Oh, taking the piss, Yeah I love that.

618
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:49,360
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, okay, oooing and aweing at the MoMA or

619
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Speaker 1: googooing and gogying at your mommy.

620
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Speaker 4: Oh googooing ggaying.

621
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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, got yeah, it's such a classic.

622
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Speaker 4: It's a classic.

623
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Speaker 2: Okay. The Eras Tour, the Paris Review or Danaris Targarian.

624
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:14,200
Speaker 4: Wow, wow, that's huge, The Paris Review.

625
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, intellectual.

626
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 1: She's wearing a black turtle.

627
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 4: I'm wearing a black turtle.

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00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I actually have.

629
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Speaker 2: To say I do sort of think eras tour Paris Review,

630
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:26,479
Speaker 2: Danares Targarian and I didn't plan it this way are

631
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:27,920
Speaker 2: sort of the three kinds of people.

632
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:32,000
Speaker 1: Whoa, Wow, whoa, that's a big one there.

633
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:37,240
Speaker 2: It's like pop culture obsessed, basic a sort of flamboyantly intellectual,

634
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:39,719
Speaker 2: wants to be seen as a reader, and then like

635
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 2: nerd maybe alt right.

636
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:44,040
Speaker 4: Right.

637
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:48,280
Speaker 1: It's tough though, because I could see myself in each

638
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:49,960
Speaker 1: of these categories totally.

639
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:52,240
Speaker 2: No, I and I think that's why we're so well rounded.

640
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:56,240
Speaker 1: You and I, Wow, that's so true, we're so well rounded.

641
00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 2: This is actually I think this could be like a

642
00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:01,440
Speaker 2: personality test where you it's like which one are you more?

643
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 2: And each person is like my son is here, my

644
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:06,640
Speaker 2: moon is here, whatever.

645
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:10,320
Speaker 1: Yes, wow, yes, And in that trinary do you find

646
00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 1: yourself feeling well rounded?

647
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 4: Kind of? Yeah, I'm watching Tar and I'm going I

648
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:19,560
Speaker 4: can see myself in a few different scenes.

649
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, totally, you're saying so true.

650
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 4: I'm saying so true. But to parts that you would go,

651
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 4: really ye.

652
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 1: That part, that part yeah, yeah, yeah.

653
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 2: I find myself constantly torn between my Paris review and

654
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:39,840
Speaker 2: my era's tour sides, while the world is actually becoming

655
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:43,040
Speaker 2: more and more Dayannarest Turgarian. Yes, and so that makes

656
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 2: me feel isolated and alienated from alienator from my fellow people.

657
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:52,080
Speaker 1: I'm finding myself more resentful of my era's tour side recently,

658
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Speaker 1: my Nearest Targarian feels the most on the back burner.

659
00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 1: But I also don't. But I think I am in

660
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:02,520
Speaker 1: my era tour the most, but I'm resentful of it.

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Speaker 1: Interesting and the Paris review, I've left it. I left

662
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Speaker 1: it in New York. Let's just say that.

663
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

664
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Speaker 1: Here, I'm a Grubhub plus member. I'm watching Survivor. I'm

665
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 1: you know, you.

666
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:17,600
Speaker 4: Like, I'm going back to it.

667
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 1: So it's just I'm putting it up, I'm putting it

668
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 1: on a pause. Okay, It's just it just doesn't feel

669
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 1: right being intellectually here.

670
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:25,240
Speaker 4: It really doesn't, which is why I struggle so much.

671
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, it doesn't. Yeah, it doesn't fit. And so I'm

672
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:30,800
Speaker 1: embracing that.

673
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:32,640
Speaker 4: Because your hair is always blowing in the wind.

674
00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:35,240
Speaker 1: I mean, the sun. How are you supposed to be moody? Exactly?

675
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 1: You look, you look silly. You have to try harder.

676
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:41,840
Speaker 1: It's insane.

677
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:44,800
Speaker 2: You are if you are being Parish review in LA

678
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:46,760
Speaker 2: You're like Emily the Strange.

679
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 4: Oh my god, of course, you're like.

680
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 2: Being the one goth girl in school. And it's like,

681
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:52,960
Speaker 2: why bother, Like you're going to stick out so much,

682
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:54,560
Speaker 2: just sucking the aras tour and get.

683
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:55,480
Speaker 1: It over with totally.

684
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 4: Tea, sure that you left, you'll leaft because I'm different.

685
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 4: I left because you're all the same exactly.

686
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 1: Yeah.

687
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:02,720
Speaker 4: But the thing is that that kind of not to

688
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 4: bring this this, but as an immigrant, now you go, oh,

689
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:11,279
Speaker 4: I'm going to choose the way in which people make

690
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:14,359
Speaker 4: fun of me, and you gravitate towards a topic. Sure,

691
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:16,799
Speaker 4: that's easier to kind of so you're it's easier to

692
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:22,400
Speaker 4: be Emily strange. Then I was gonna say, even the

693
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 4: terrible that's actually not what I was thinking about.

694
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:27,359
Speaker 2: Do you feel like, do you feel like you are

695
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 2: more Emily the Strange or happy Bunny?

696
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:32,760
Speaker 4: Oh my god, Emily is strange, of course.

697
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 2: Yeah. See I always felt more connected to happy Bunny.

698
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:37,719
Speaker 2: That's what it's called, right, It's like the bunny that

699
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:41,200
Speaker 2: always has something inappropriate to say to me. I was like,

700
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:43,480
Speaker 2: this is the essence of comedy. It's like a bunny

701
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:45,240
Speaker 2: and then under it it says I want to kill

702
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:46,200
Speaker 2: all women or whatever.

703
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:48,120
Speaker 1: Oh I thought it was so genius. I was like,

704
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:50,600
Speaker 1: this is so fresh. So now I just say I don't.

705
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 4: I to be honest, I don't relate to either of those.

706
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 4: One of the Hallmark cards where it's like a woman

707
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 4: with really long boobs and she's stepping on them and

708
00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 4: she's like, stepping on my boobs again Monday. Yeah, so

709
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:02,799
Speaker 4: that I kind of am there.

710
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:06,440
Speaker 2: And by the way, bring her back, because Callmark cards

711
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:07,720
Speaker 2: are not that smart anymore.

712
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 4: No, she was so smart.

713
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 1: She was smart. I was smart. She's falling always.

714
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:15,840
Speaker 2: And by the way, birthday cards that make fun of

715
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 2: how old someone is are funny. That is way better

716
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:23,960
Speaker 2: than something that's like overly saccharine or something like just

717
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:26,359
Speaker 2: if you And by the way, if you're someone who

718
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:29,800
Speaker 2: wants to be funny but maybe doesn't have it in you,

719
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 2: by thelready made card with a woman with the boobs, yeah.

720
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 3: Please why not?

721
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:36,000
Speaker 1: Its body positive?

722
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:38,920
Speaker 4: Body positive. She's tossing one over the over the neck,

723
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 4: it's flying around like a scarf. Okay, go to Paris, Okay,

724
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:49,160
Speaker 4: talk about Paris reviews. Absolutely, I hated it.

725
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's good.

726
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 1: That's really good. Well I think you got nine hundred

727
00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:57,400
Speaker 1: and ninety nine dobs. I agree, Yeah, I thought that

728
00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 1: was incredible. Do we want to get to the topic? Yeah?

729
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:04,160
Speaker 1: I think sure. I think we have to. I think

730
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 1: with guns outside that are saying if you don't get

731
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:08,160
Speaker 1: to the topic, now, well.

732
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:10,279
Speaker 2: It's all the people that couldn't yell at all. They

733
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 2: are now doing studio shootings, in studio shootings in the

734
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 2: city of Los Angeles.

735
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 4: Studio podcast.

736
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so and there's a lot of studios here,

737
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 1: so it's really good.

738
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Speaker 2: So Anna, we would love to know what straight topic

739
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:33,960
Speaker 2: you brought with you today and potentially even what makes

740
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:34,480
Speaker 2: it straight.

741
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:41,560
Speaker 4: Okay, Kitchen islands genius just putting a kitchen island, seeing

742
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 4: the potential in a space, and seeing the potential in

743
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 4: a kitchen island in that space.

744
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 1: I think a kitchen island is such a smart one.

745
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 1: It's so obviously like suburban and it's so like even

746
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:03,879
Speaker 1: something's got to give core yes, where it's like it's

747
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:09,319
Speaker 1: it's aspirational, like a kitchen island is aspirational. And they

748
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:09,799
Speaker 1: speak to.

749
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Speaker 4: Me, yeah, thick if you can get a chunky yeah, with.

750
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 1: The with the wood and the yeah, I mean.

751
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:20,840
Speaker 2: I mean, don't even get me started on a kitchen

752
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 2: island with a sink.

753
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 1: Oh my god, talk about the epitome of wealth, luxury.

754
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:27,880
Speaker 1: You have arrived.

755
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:28,760
Speaker 4: You have arrived.

756
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:33,719
Speaker 2: It's on a very literal level. Visually, it's obviously suburban.

757
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 2: It's obviously family values. Yes, it is like all the

758
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 2: kids are in the kitchen and one of them just

759
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 2: slipped on some spaghetti that you know, fell. But then

760
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:46,759
Speaker 2: in a deeper sense, it's also it's a way to

761
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 2: like claim your space. It's a little bit like pissing

762
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 2: and being like this is where I live. Like you

763
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 2: move into a house and it's not yours until you

764
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:57,719
Speaker 2: literally build a structure in it. It is sort of

765
00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:01,760
Speaker 2: in the same conversation as a it's a colonialist mindset.

766
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 4: I agree. There's something very also primal.

767
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:06,560
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, exactly.

768
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 1: Also, the implication that the kitchen is a workspace, yes,

769
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:15,480
Speaker 1: is very like it is true, but it's it's so like, no,

770
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 1: we don't need to go out, we have food here.

771
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 4: Yes, a social kind of Oh you bring the socialization

772
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 4: to you to your kitchen, ye.

773
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:27,440
Speaker 2: Right, But the effort there, this is what's interesting, is

774
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:32,920
Speaker 2: like the kitchen naturally is a space of communal coming together.

775
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:37,239
Speaker 2: But you move into a suburban house, you say, I've

776
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:39,360
Speaker 2: done everything right, I've had my five kids, I have

777
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:43,840
Speaker 2: my beautiful husband. Why don't I feel naturally that sense

778
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 2: of communal coming together. Maybe an island will help, but

779
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:48,880
Speaker 2: by that point you've already lost.

780
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:50,400
Speaker 4: Absolutely.

781
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:55,400
Speaker 2: Absolutely, it's a way to force the communal It's like

782
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:58,719
Speaker 2: it's almost too perfect. It's a way to force that

783
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:01,239
Speaker 2: kind of communal communal eating.

784
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:06,360
Speaker 4: Because it also is like vaguely utilitarian, yes, but not

785
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:11,919
Speaker 4: actually yeah, it's actually not super useful in the way

786
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:14,720
Speaker 4: that they're usually typically used, which is just for displaying

787
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:16,800
Speaker 4: space exactly.

788
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 2: And what you're saying taking up space is the is

789
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 2: so spot on. It's like actually making a kitchen island

790
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:27,080
Speaker 2: betrays a fear of blank space. You are so afraid

791
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 2: of what might happen if there was space to breathe

792
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 2: that you like, close that down.

793
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:34,440
Speaker 1: Now, if we don't have a kitchen island here, there

794
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:36,240
Speaker 1: will be an extra menial affair exactly.

795
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:39,000
Speaker 2: Oh, you want me to have all that blank space

796
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:41,120
Speaker 2: so my husband canna have an affair on it, and

797
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:43,480
Speaker 2: I don't think So we're closing that.

798
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:47,879
Speaker 4: Up closing that up of course, of course, and then

799
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 4: and then all the negotiations with the contractors. Yes, I

800
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 4: mean that's you.

801
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:55,319
Speaker 1: Know, well doing something talk about the fantasy is like

802
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:58,919
Speaker 1: to have a relationship with a contractor is like one

803
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:00,759
Speaker 1: of the great.

804
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:04,360
Speaker 4: The pillars of straight one of the pillars of straight culture.

805
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:06,839
Speaker 1: And even like the pillars of like to me, like

806
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 1: one of the things that makes me feel like I'm

807
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:12,960
Speaker 1: fully an adult, like there is no shred of childhood

808
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:16,239
Speaker 1: left inside of me. I am. I'm calling the contractor

809
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:19,640
Speaker 1: who I have a relation of rapport with, and I'm saying, Bill,

810
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 1: when when are you gonna make time for my wall? Absolutely,

811
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:27,719
Speaker 1: I think it. I both want it and fear it

812
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:29,239
Speaker 1: because I know that once I have it, I can

813
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:29,919
Speaker 1: never go back.

814
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:32,360
Speaker 4: These are like your friends from high school, the general you,

815
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:34,839
Speaker 4: maybe not the specific you that they see you. They

816
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:37,880
Speaker 4: go you're so young. I'd love to catch up. Unfortunately,

817
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:39,960
Speaker 4: I have obligations. I have to I have to get

818
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:41,480
Speaker 4: on the phone with Bill. I have to meet the

819
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:43,359
Speaker 4: contract It's so sweet that you just have the time

820
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:44,640
Speaker 4: to do whatever it is you want.

821
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I see what you're doing on Instagram. It's so fun.

822
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:47,800
Speaker 1: It's so cool.

823
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:49,839
Speaker 4: We have to catch up. Unfortunately I don't have time.

824
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:51,280
Speaker 1: I get to go. I have to meet the contractor.

825
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 4: I have to meet Bill.

826
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 1: Oh god, what a fantasy.

827
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 2: Well, the contractor also fulfills this double almost contradictory need

828
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:02,960
Speaker 2: for the woman and the relationship, which is she gets

829
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:04,920
Speaker 2: to be a little thirty with him and a little

830
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:08,440
Speaker 2: bit like, Okay, he's bending over and I can see

831
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:13,560
Speaker 2: his little plumber's crack, and he's muscular, more muscular than

832
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:17,719
Speaker 2: my husband and and more rugged. But on the other hand,

833
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:21,319
Speaker 2: she's also like, well, I'm so happy my husband wears

834
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 2: a suit and isn't a contractor. Yes, it like reinforces

835
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:30,440
Speaker 2: the aspirational upper middle class, the superiority of the aspirational

836
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:34,280
Speaker 2: upper middle class lifestyle that she is aspiring to totally.

837
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:37,840
Speaker 4: And then she also gets to kind of cause play

838
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:43,360
Speaker 4: as a builder herself. Yes, generalizing, of course, but I.

839
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 3: Think, well, no, I fully she's the director.

840
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:48,200
Speaker 4: And then he you know, then the husband gets to go.

841
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:50,360
Speaker 4: You know, she basically built.

842
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:51,400
Speaker 3: The house exactly.

843
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:54,799
Speaker 2: Well, that's and now said. And so it's like, if

844
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:57,479
Speaker 2: we're in a sort of fifties sixties environment as well,

845
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:02,239
Speaker 2: Let's say the wife is not doesn't have a career, No,

846
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 2: but in this pocket of her life, she gets to

847
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:08,719
Speaker 2: be the boss. She gets to be the managing the

848
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 2: manager of the contractor. Exactly, she's CEO for the one

849
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 2: Thursday month that he comes to build.

850
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:21,719
Speaker 1: Absolutely. Oh, absolutely, wow. Yeah, damn, I gotta get a contractor.

851
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 4: You must do you. I just thought, you know, remember

852
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:28,959
Speaker 4: the Katy Perry documentary.

853
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:31,400
Speaker 3: Yes, oh yeah, it's a big part of the mytholo.

854
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 1: It's a big mythology.

855
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:38,680
Speaker 4: I have obviously love and respect. There's a little part

856
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:43,480
Speaker 4: where she where her disinterested assistant who has to like

857
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:44,640
Speaker 4: pretend to be her friend.

858
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:47,840
Speaker 1: Who's maybe also her related to her somehow possibly, I

859
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:50,800
Speaker 1: think maybe her sister maybe.

860
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:53,319
Speaker 4: Does a two camera interviewer what she's like. And people

861
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:56,320
Speaker 4: think that Katie just comes onto the stage and performs,

862
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 4: but no, she has say over every part of the tour.

863
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:01,920
Speaker 4: And then they cut to her wearing a little Katy

864
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:04,480
Speaker 4: Perry wearing a little hard hat, being like lower the

865
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:07,960
Speaker 4: banner a little bit. Yeah, it's so good where people

866
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 4: are like, she actually gets her hands really dirty with the.

867
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:11,839
Speaker 1: Design of this door.

868
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:14,600
Speaker 4: She does every part. That's what I'm thinking of the

869
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:17,439
Speaker 4: wife getting to be like can we move it half

870
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:18,360
Speaker 4: itach over? You know.

871
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 2: But it's also it's so funny, like Katie Perry talk

872
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 2: about someone regardless of what you think of her, it's

873
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 2: clearly a very successful musical artist. And yet what the

874
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 2: implication is that we can't take her seriously as a

875
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 2: businesswoman unless she's doing manual labors, unless she's doing something

876
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:38,400
Speaker 2: masculine coded, like we actually have to see her hitting

877
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:40,680
Speaker 2: a ham, hitting a nail with a hammer in order

878
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 2: to be like, you know what, she has something to say.

879
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 4: She gets on the forklifts, she's gonna move once, she's

880
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:48,440
Speaker 4: going to move the banner over. Okay's gonna take her

881
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:50,600
Speaker 4: hat off, she's gonna go into the stage. That's how

882
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:51,920
Speaker 4: that's how incredible she is.

883
00:43:52,080 --> 00:44:02,680
Speaker 1: Wow, hat feels so incredible. I what's the LGBTQ plus

884
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 1: version of the Kitchen Island?

885
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 2: This is a really good question. I'm gonna start. I'm

886
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:12,759
Speaker 2: gonna just free associate. I haven't decided yet when I

887
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:16,840
Speaker 2: think of this, Yeah, gonna put two words into the conversation.

888
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:22,280
Speaker 2: We can discuss them. Breakfast nook. Yeah, is a breakfast

889
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 2: nook also exactly what I'm talking about, like a forced

890
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:31,640
Speaker 2: way to pretend there's some communal spirit that there isn't

891
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:34,120
Speaker 2: or is it something more authentic.

892
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 1: I think a breakfast nook is an interesting option because one,

893
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:40,920
Speaker 1: I think they're way less common than kitchen islands. Yes,

894
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:45,440
Speaker 1: two they're they are completely impractical, which does sort of

895
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:48,840
Speaker 1: lead into the both of those fit more of a

896
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:54,200
Speaker 1: queer narrative of course. Yeah, and yet there's something about

897
00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:57,680
Speaker 1: it that's still not quite it for me.

898
00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:00,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, it almost.

899
00:44:59,880 --> 00:45:02,280
Speaker 1: Be because it's only I feel like a breakfast nook

900
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 1: is a space and a home created by real estate

901
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:09,800
Speaker 1: companies in order to sell homes. I don't think anyone

902
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:12,719
Speaker 1: actually ever is like we're using that. No one. I've

903
00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:15,600
Speaker 1: actually never seen one. I've just seen the text breakfast nook.

904
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:20,279
Speaker 1: I'm not quite sure if it's if it's real or

905
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:20,920
Speaker 1: if it's a fiction.

906
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:25,840
Speaker 4: Might be more I feel like LA maybe more kind.

907
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:26,880
Speaker 1: Of nook culture.

908
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:29,920
Speaker 4: Maybe nook culture here. Yeah, maybe New York smaller.

909
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:32,560
Speaker 1: So I've seen a lot of nooks.

910
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 2: I think it's Yeah, I think you're not going to

911
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 2: see one in in a in an apartment in New York.

912
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:38,719
Speaker 2: But I have to say a nook to me, I

913
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:42,680
Speaker 2: agree with you, of course that it can't be user friendly,

914
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:44,799
Speaker 2: like when you have it, you're going to immediately regret it,

915
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:48,120
Speaker 2: And yet I want one.

916
00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 3: It's cute.

917
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:51,319
Speaker 1: It's cute. It I mean the word the image. I

918
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:53,480
Speaker 1: love the word yes nook.

919
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 2: It's like, if I have a breakfast nook, I will

920
00:45:56,680 --> 00:45:58,719
Speaker 2: read the physical newspaper. I'm not going to be on

921
00:45:58,760 --> 00:45:59,320
Speaker 2: my phone.

922
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:00,960
Speaker 1: I want to bread look in the same way that

923
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:02,799
Speaker 1: I want to be in Maine in the winter. It's like,

924
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:05,080
Speaker 1: I just there's some fantasy.

925
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:06,640
Speaker 4: And a sweater scar.

926
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:09,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, and well, of course it would be miserable, but like,

927
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:12,200
Speaker 1: but there would be moments when you're cozier than you've

928
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:13,440
Speaker 1: ever been in your whole life.

929
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:18,880
Speaker 4: I feel like it's kitchen islands, Like this is us

930
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 4: taking back the space. Breakfast nook is like decided for

931
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:23,400
Speaker 4: you totally.

932
00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:24,359
Speaker 3: You know what I think?

933
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:26,759
Speaker 2: Might there's an argument maybe to be made for this

934
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 2: being the queer version, you know, the whole thing about

935
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:35,080
Speaker 2: conversation pits, Yes, yes, obviously they did not last past

936
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:37,600
Speaker 2: the seventies and now it's all about looking up conversation

937
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:41,840
Speaker 2: pits on Tumblr and once a year I wish and

938
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:44,840
Speaker 2: being like, bring about conversation pats.

939
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:46,960
Speaker 1: Why is no one talking about conversation?

940
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:49,279
Speaker 2: Why is no one talking about conversation bits. I'm an

941
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:52,160
Speaker 2: underpaid associate editor at a digital website that's gonna shut

942
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:52,840
Speaker 2: down tomorrow.

943
00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:56,839
Speaker 1: Look at the ten best conversation pets that you wish

944
00:46:56,880 --> 00:46:57,480
Speaker 1: you could have.

945
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:00,719
Speaker 2: But I think, as much as it has become this

946
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:03,399
Speaker 2: lame thing that we have to post about once a year,

947
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:10,600
Speaker 2: the dream again, it's that dream of communal interaction. But

948
00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:13,120
Speaker 2: I do think there's something a little more, a little

949
00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:16,560
Speaker 2: more horny, a little more like seventies key party about

950
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:20,400
Speaker 2: it in a way that makes it less family values

951
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:26,160
Speaker 2: and straight than a kitchen Island. And I almost think

952
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:28,840
Speaker 2: the fact that it never stuck and the fact that

953
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:30,680
Speaker 2: it is sort of like frozen at this moment in time,

954
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:33,000
Speaker 2: makes it more queer. It's sort of like the queer

955
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:33,760
Speaker 2: art of failure.

956
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:41,160
Speaker 4: Wow, Okay, Yeah, I think it's just they are two

957
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:44,879
Speaker 4: very different outfits. You know, when I'm picturing kitchen Island,

958
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:49,080
Speaker 4: I'm again picturing fake nails. Yes, like a nice thick

959
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:52,920
Speaker 4: acrylic nail tapping across the grain. Yeah, thinking about what

960
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:53,800
Speaker 4: we're gonna have for dinner.

961
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:55,360
Speaker 1: It's a little bit carmelo soprano.

962
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:58,520
Speaker 4: It's a little absolutely breakfast nook is kind of like

963
00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:01,680
Speaker 4: I could sive myself yeat reading a physical newspaper.

964
00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:04,080
Speaker 1: You know, little zoe Deschanell.

965
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:08,359
Speaker 4: It's a little Zodichanelle of course. Yeah, Carmela, you could say,

966
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:13,960
Speaker 4: you know, maybe actually Zoey Deschanel and Carmela straight versus queer.

967
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:15,239
Speaker 4: I could see them being Do.

968
00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:18,880
Speaker 2: You know what's interesting though, Yeah, think about, like Carmela

969
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:21,840
Speaker 2: and Zoey Deschanel, gun to your head, who is the

970
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:25,759
Speaker 2: more conservative and who is the more progressive vision of womanhood?

971
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:27,080
Speaker 3: Could not tell you.

972
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:29,480
Speaker 1: I mean that is one of the hardest questions that

973
00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:30,760
Speaker 1: you could ask a person.

974
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:34,000
Speaker 2: Yes, because in some ways both of them are insanely liberated,

975
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:36,120
Speaker 2: and in some ways both of them are stuck in

976
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:37,760
Speaker 2: patterns that they will never escape.

977
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:40,200
Speaker 4: When I think about now, I'm going to say, Zoey

978
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 4: Deschanelle full conservative.

979
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:45,600
Speaker 1: Well, okay, I think to be here's my okay. Aesthetically,

980
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:49,200
Speaker 1: Carmela is so much more liberated. I think she is

981
00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:53,239
Speaker 1: like living out loud and not following any rules. And

982
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:58,319
Speaker 1: Zoeya Chanelle is like aesthetically a trad wife, like so conservative,

983
00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:05,520
Speaker 1: et cetera, but like internally, Carmela more conservative and Zoe

984
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:07,640
Speaker 1: more radical.

985
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:13,840
Speaker 2: I mean Carmela is quite literally like living in a patriarchy.

986
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:18,760
Speaker 4: Yes, proudly, probably somewhat recently, marrying a property brother.

987
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:21,880
Speaker 2: You go, okay, but then she's so clearly the top

988
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:25,560
Speaker 2: in that relationship, which is interesting, Like she really went

989
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:28,920
Speaker 2: and found a kind of like humiliating Max.

990
00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:32,239
Speaker 1: Yeah. So but to walk on a little that's true. Yeah,

991
00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:34,799
Speaker 1: so she could put her little polka dot heels on

992
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:35,800
Speaker 1: his neck or whatever.

993
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:36,960
Speaker 4: And they're going to Airwan.

994
00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:40,280
Speaker 1: They're going to Airwan. Sure, you know, I think Airwon

995
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:49,800
Speaker 1: is the pizza of La.

996
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 2: Damn.

997
00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:53,480
Speaker 1: That's so true, so true because people here like it's

998
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:55,799
Speaker 1: like tongue in cheek, like it's like, we know it's

999
00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:58,480
Speaker 1: La gets you an Airwan And everyone makes that joke.

1000
00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:01,200
Speaker 1: Every single person is like, gets you in Arawan and

1001
00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:02,680
Speaker 1: then like but then everyone's like, but I am going

1002
00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:05,480
Speaker 1: to go get air Let's go. Yeah. And I think

1003
00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 1: people in New York are like pizza and it's like,

1004
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:09,480
Speaker 1: but actually do you want people?

1005
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:11,920
Speaker 4: But that's so true.

1006
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:17,040
Speaker 2: Although pizza is so like the working man's food in

1007
00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:20,400
Speaker 2: New York, you know what I because I think Tacos

1008
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:21,719
Speaker 2: is the pizza of La.

1009
00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:25,960
Speaker 1: But that's so literal. I think. I don't think. I

1010
00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:27,880
Speaker 1: actually don't think people are going to get tacos at

1011
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:30,520
Speaker 1: the rate in which the media portrays them. No, I

1012
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:33,040
Speaker 1: have been here many many times, and I'm always on

1013
00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:35,319
Speaker 1: this like tacos, and one's like, oh, I guess it's

1014
00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:36,560
Speaker 1: been a while since I've had a taco.

1015
00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:42,680
Speaker 4: Exactly right. You're kind of distilling the essence as well. Yeah,

1016
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:46,320
Speaker 4: because the essence is working class. I mean, I guess

1017
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:48,640
Speaker 4: that's that's a little silly to say that, you know,

1018
00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:56,520
Speaker 4: Manhattan working class had bootstrap, you know. But but it

1019
00:50:56,560 --> 00:51:01,279
Speaker 4: does feel like LA. It's like, yes, the joke's on us,

1020
00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:03,680
Speaker 4: but but but seriously, folks up, but I.

1021
00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:04,439
Speaker 1: Do like it. Yeah.

1022
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:07,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's how I feel about with LA. That's

1023
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:10,080
Speaker 2: how I feel about all sort of health coated food,

1024
00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:13,879
Speaker 2: like a grain bowl, squirrel like all that stuff. I'm like, yeah,

1025
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:16,160
Speaker 2: I know it's a punchline, but it's also quite literally

1026
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:19,640
Speaker 2: the reason to live. Of course, Like to me, getting

1027
00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:23,560
Speaker 2: an actually like impeccably made grain bowl is what are

1028
00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:25,160
Speaker 2: the great joys of my life?

1029
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:29,439
Speaker 4: Yes? And then you go somewhere where that's just not really excess, Yes,

1030
00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:32,520
Speaker 4: and you go like New York City, Like New York City,

1031
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:36,040
Speaker 4: where are you? Okay, New York City? Okay, here's here's

1032
00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:38,759
Speaker 4: a gripe. Okay, okay, I love this, I love, I love.

1033
00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:41,000
Speaker 4: I mean, I want to be of course, you know,

1034
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:43,920
Speaker 4: everything I could ever want, But but I do I

1035
00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:48,080
Speaker 4: would like to stay hydrated. And yet how do you

1036
00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:48,359
Speaker 4: do that?

1037
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:49,520
Speaker 1: You don't bring a water bodel?

1038
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:51,200
Speaker 4: No I do. But where do you pee?

1039
00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:53,040
Speaker 2: Oh?

1040
00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:57,279
Speaker 1: Not Starbucks? No, you're you're right, I mean no, the

1041
00:51:57,280 --> 00:52:00,960
Speaker 1: public situation is insane, extremely crazy in New York.

1042
00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:02,319
Speaker 3: But counterpoint, where do you pa in?

1043
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:03,120
Speaker 2: La your car?

1044
00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:08,319
Speaker 4: Literally, any grocery store, really a grocery store always has

1045
00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:10,320
Speaker 4: a bathroom, and you're always near a grocery.

1046
00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:13,000
Speaker 1: Also, the parks here always have like multiple bathrooms in

1047
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:14,279
Speaker 1: a way that's kind of surprising to me.

1048
00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:18,799
Speaker 4: Yes, totally, it's just not that. Also, you're in your car,

1049
00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:21,640
Speaker 4: but you're like your home is kind of accessible. I

1050
00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:22,880
Speaker 4: feel like New York, you're out for.

1051
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:25,800
Speaker 1: The Oh I know the answer is actually bars, you

1052
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:27,759
Speaker 1: pe and bars and they don't, but you don't, and

1053
00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:29,319
Speaker 1: like some of them will be mean about it, but

1054
00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:30,560
Speaker 1: most of them you can just be like, I'm gonna

1055
00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:32,000
Speaker 1: pee and they're like, Okay, I think you.

1056
00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:34,200
Speaker 4: Can really get away with it. Most places New York

1057
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:38,000
Speaker 4: I've tried, and I've felt so humiliated.

1058
00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:41,000
Speaker 2: Really yeah, oh interesting see to me, it's such a

1059
00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:44,080
Speaker 2: such a nice thing to be like, well, I guess

1060
00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:46,800
Speaker 2: I have to get a macha because I have to pee.

1061
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:47,520
Speaker 1: Well that's fun.

1062
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:49,319
Speaker 4: That is the problem is that you're you end up

1063
00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:51,600
Speaker 4: getting ten much as a day right budget.

1064
00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:52,560
Speaker 2: No, for sure? For sure?

1065
00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:54,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah you're broke.

1066
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:57,840
Speaker 4: You're my macha accountant is just swimming in my money

1067
00:52:57,960 --> 00:52:59,640
Speaker 4: because just be kidding.

1068
00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:05,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, your mancha accounts is super nice though, so nice.

1069
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:05,560
Speaker 5: You know.

1070
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:07,520
Speaker 1: I've always found that a macho accountant is like when

1071
00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:09,320
Speaker 1: I'll know I'm an adult because I'm like, I'm calling

1072
00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:12,040
Speaker 1: my machic accountant and I'm like, I gotta go meet Bill.

1073
00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:12,920
Speaker 1: You know.

1074
00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:15,560
Speaker 4: It's so cute that you do your kind of socializing,

1075
00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:17,240
Speaker 4: but I have to meet Bill. Yes.

1076
00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:19,520
Speaker 2: The Macha Countain is like the type of thing that

1077
00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:22,880
Speaker 2: someone moves to La and they're like, everyone's so crazy

1078
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:25,400
Speaker 2: here they have masha accountants, and then a year in

1079
00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:28,440
Speaker 2: they're like, listen. I was skeptical at first, but you

1080
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:29,560
Speaker 2: really can'tnot have one.

1081
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:31,600
Speaker 1: Yes, Oh my god. It's like, yeah, if you don't

1082
00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:33,600
Speaker 1: like LA, it's like, do you have a machic ac countan, Like,

1083
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:38,759
Speaker 1: once you have one, you'll like LA. Like, of course,

1084
00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:40,480
Speaker 1: it's like a little bit less successful, but like, once

1085
00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:42,520
Speaker 1: you do have a macho account, you're gonna like LA.

1086
00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:44,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, how can you change it?

1087
00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:44,560
Speaker 5: For me?

1088
00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:47,040
Speaker 4: Took a few years, and then once I realized it,

1089
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:47,839
Speaker 4: I love it now.

1090
00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:54,200
Speaker 1: Damn well, folks expect way more New York versus LA

1091
00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:55,879
Speaker 1: content over the next few months.

1092
00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:56,759
Speaker 2: I'm loving it.

1093
00:53:56,880 --> 00:53:59,359
Speaker 1: Oh and honestly me too. And I actually think it's

1094
00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:02,799
Speaker 1: so disgusting when people are like, I know, New York

1095
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:05,080
Speaker 1: or LA, because it's like, well, actually they are different.

1096
00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:07,200
Speaker 1: They're different, and actually people live in one and not

1097
00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:08,960
Speaker 1: the other, because you can't live in two places, even

1098
00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:10,319
Speaker 1: if you're byicostal, you're living in one.

1099
00:54:10,719 --> 00:54:12,400
Speaker 3: I wish you well, they're also both.

1100
00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:17,200
Speaker 2: It's like different kinds of insane people live in each

1101
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:21,279
Speaker 2: and they are different enough than the rest of America that.

1102
00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:23,080
Speaker 3: It actually is an interesting conversation.

1103
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:27,399
Speaker 1: Yes, justice for New York versus LA conversations.

1104
00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:29,279
Speaker 2: No, I completely agree, I completely agree.

1105
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:29,600
Speaker 1: Agree.

1106
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:31,160
Speaker 3: Also, what more do we have?

1107
00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:34,799
Speaker 2: Like all we can do is negotiate our differences and

1108
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:39,000
Speaker 2: then come together on the proverbial kitchen island to sort

1109
00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:40,919
Speaker 2: of figure out where we all fit into this world

1110
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:43,200
Speaker 2: and whether we are Eras to our parish reviewer Dan

1111
00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:46,600
Speaker 2: Aras Targarian, like, if we're gonna suddenly say that talking

1112
00:54:46,600 --> 00:54:49,600
Speaker 2: about our differences in our similarities is cliche and outdated,

1113
00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:50,800
Speaker 2: then what is left?

1114
00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:53,480
Speaker 4: Absolutely, and then we get into like I don't see color,

1115
00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:55,520
Speaker 4: like exactly.

1116
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:58,440
Speaker 1: Oh my god, exactly. Yeah. If you can't debate Carmela

1117
00:54:58,520 --> 00:55:02,960
Speaker 1: versus Zoe, you're racist.

1118
00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:03,920
Speaker 2: You're racist.

1119
00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:09,239
Speaker 1: God, it makes I shouldn't have to tell you that.

1120
00:55:09,239 --> 00:55:10,000
Speaker 4: I should have to tell you.

1121
00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:12,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's so obvious. True.

1122
00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:17,120
Speaker 2: Do you think Carmela is obviously the I think Carmela

1123
00:55:17,160 --> 00:55:22,040
Speaker 2: obviously is pizza and Zoe is air wan Yeah, there's

1124
00:55:22,080 --> 00:55:24,600
Speaker 2: no air around it there. Yeah. Okay. I was about

1125
00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:26,400
Speaker 2: to be like, is there like an into it?

1126
00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:31,320
Speaker 4: Okay, no, go on, go on the banks. It's a

1127
00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:32,000
Speaker 4: little pizza.

1128
00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:34,320
Speaker 1: Well, that's pizza. That's that's posing with pizza.

1129
00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:37,400
Speaker 4: That's posing with pizzas necessarily.

1130
00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:40,040
Speaker 2: Well, it's certainly not pizza by the slice. It's going

1131
00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:43,440
Speaker 2: to like it's doing like it's like clam pizza.

1132
00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:47,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's also like showing up, showing up to

1133
00:55:47,600 --> 00:55:49,759
Speaker 4: hang out with the guys with a box of pizza.

1134
00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:54,279
Speaker 4: It's a little ba. Carmela, I feel like, is not

1135
00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:58,879
Speaker 4: She's not posing with Airwan Mela is like. I feel

1136
00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:02,880
Speaker 4: like she she would actually be very open to like probiotics.

1137
00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:03,759
Speaker 3: Well yes.

1138
00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:06,359
Speaker 2: And also I actually think Carmela, for her it's a

1139
00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:11,839
Speaker 2: measure of her upward mobility. She will try pilates and

1140
00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:14,960
Speaker 2: she will try yoga, and she wants, like she's so

1141
00:56:15,120 --> 00:56:17,359
Speaker 2: desperate for those things to fulfill her and to give

1142
00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:19,480
Speaker 2: her something that she's not getting at home. And so

1143
00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:21,879
Speaker 2: I do think she will go to Arawan, but she'll

1144
00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:23,919
Speaker 2: get like the wrong one and then be pissed about

1145
00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:24,399
Speaker 2: it all day.

1146
00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:25,040
Speaker 4: Totally.

1147
00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:30,880
Speaker 1: Absolutely, I mean we did with Carmela and Zoe. We

1148
00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:34,280
Speaker 1: did just create the New York versus La binary again.

1149
00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:35,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, we really did.

1150
00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:36,840
Speaker 1: It.

1151
00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:41,400
Speaker 4: All comes it comes back to, you know, refeeding the starter.

1152
00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:47,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, damn, refeeding the starter is really you're onto something.

1153
00:56:47,840 --> 00:56:50,400
Speaker 1: Then we got to come back, beautiful, I have to

1154
00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:50,920
Speaker 1: come back to.

1155
00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:56,200
Speaker 3: WHOA, that's that's really smart.

1156
00:56:58,200 --> 00:56:59,680
Speaker 4: I put on a turtal neck for a reason.

1157
00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:01,640
Speaker 1: That's true. That's true.

1158
00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:02,600
Speaker 4: I want to show up.

1159
00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:08,799
Speaker 1: Wow, would you guys have a kitchen island in your home?

1160
00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:10,839
Speaker 1: Do you already?

1161
00:57:11,560 --> 00:57:13,840
Speaker 2: I'll come out and say I don't already.

1162
00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:16,320
Speaker 4: I'll just go ahead and come out and say, I don't.

1163
00:57:16,600 --> 00:57:19,200
Speaker 2: You know who does? Sam Taggart?

1164
00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:20,160
Speaker 1: I do?

1165
00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:20,720
Speaker 4: Do you really?

1166
00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:27,440
Speaker 1: In New York? New York Nike one? Sure, but mostly

1167
00:57:27,440 --> 00:57:29,920
Speaker 1: because our kitchen has no storage and it has like

1168
00:57:29,920 --> 00:57:32,680
Speaker 1: little shelves in it, and we also don't have any

1169
00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:35,760
Speaker 1: countertop spaces, like so you go of the people. Well,

1170
00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:37,640
Speaker 1: of course, needless to.

1171
00:57:37,600 --> 00:57:43,360
Speaker 2: Say, yeah, no contractors were harmed in the creation of islands.

1172
00:57:43,400 --> 00:57:45,560
Speaker 1: There's no sink. That's for damn sure.

1173
00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:48,440
Speaker 4: Sure, that's where you get into Wow.

1174
00:57:48,920 --> 00:57:51,280
Speaker 1: I mean it's so rough and tumble, it's it's a

1175
00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:55,400
Speaker 1: really punk rock sort of counterculture kitchen island.

1176
00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:58,160
Speaker 4: You're queering, I want yeh island.

1177
00:57:58,760 --> 00:58:02,320
Speaker 1: Well, at some point you do actually need countertop, and

1178
00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:03,640
Speaker 1: so that's basically what that is.

1179
00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:04,680
Speaker 4: That's true.

1180
00:58:04,760 --> 00:58:06,600
Speaker 2: But I do think that's a difference between a New

1181
00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:08,680
Speaker 2: York apartment kitchen island that you get from a Kia

1182
00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:12,360
Speaker 2: and a suburban kitchen island one is like the New

1183
00:58:12,440 --> 00:58:14,960
Speaker 2: York one is out of necessity.

1184
00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:19,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly. It's like taking again. It's it's like taking

1185
00:58:19,360 --> 00:58:24,240
Speaker 4: something that is perfectly utilitarian, functional and is there for

1186
00:58:24,280 --> 00:58:28,640
Speaker 4: a reason, and then making it like such an aesthetic

1187
00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:34,439
Speaker 4: like decision based whatever amalgam, that it's no longer even

1188
00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:37,520
Speaker 4: really about the function. You know, Yes, that's what it

1189
00:58:37,520 --> 00:58:41,960
Speaker 4: feels like, like having a huge kitchen island where you

1190
00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:43,400
Speaker 4: can't even use the kitchen anymore.

1191
00:58:43,960 --> 00:58:47,320
Speaker 2: That's I mean, or homes that have multiple kitchen islands.

1192
00:58:47,960 --> 00:58:51,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're hopping.

1193
00:58:52,240 --> 00:58:57,840
Speaker 5: We should do island hopping this, you're island hop I

1194
00:58:57,880 --> 00:59:00,920
Speaker 5: actually am somewhat jealous of people that can have something

1195
00:59:00,960 --> 00:59:03,960
Speaker 5: that has gone so far from its original purpose that

1196
00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:04,320
Speaker 5: it's like.

1197
00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:08,360
Speaker 1: Not necessarily practical anymore, and it's just esthetic, like because.

1198
00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:10,760
Speaker 3: I even think about this, like hats I have trouble with.

1199
00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:13,680
Speaker 4: Oh, don't get me start.

1200
00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:17,240
Speaker 1: Because like no, like a baseball works perfectly, like it

1201
00:59:17,280 --> 00:59:19,200
Speaker 1: blocks the sun from my eyes. That's what I wear

1202
00:59:19,240 --> 00:59:21,520
Speaker 1: a hat for. And then it's like, okay, well then

1203
00:59:21,520 --> 00:59:23,480
Speaker 1: what if I want to have Like I'm on the

1204
00:59:23,480 --> 00:59:25,880
Speaker 1: West Coast today, the place I'm still letting the person

1205
00:59:25,920 --> 00:59:28,400
Speaker 1: has a cowboy hat in their apartment and I put

1206
00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:31,439
Speaker 1: it on today and I said, well, this is incredible,

1207
00:59:31,840 --> 00:59:33,800
Speaker 1: and I was like this, I want to be my

1208
00:59:33,880 --> 00:59:36,160
Speaker 1: whole thing now and I'm on the West Coast. Why

1209
00:59:36,200 --> 00:59:38,240
Speaker 1: can't I be a cowboy? And then it was like,

1210
00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:42,400
Speaker 1: because it has no real purpose, I have no real

1211
00:59:42,400 --> 00:59:44,280
Speaker 1: connection to this, I can't ever wear.

1212
00:59:44,080 --> 00:59:47,760
Speaker 4: This, right, that's nice. The self awareness is really beautiful.

1213
00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:49,040
Speaker 1: So you think I can't wear it.

1214
00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:52,600
Speaker 4: I honestly, it's the kind of thing where I have

1215
00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:53,360
Speaker 4: to see it to know.

1216
00:59:54,120 --> 00:59:57,320
Speaker 2: I think if you can wear it in New York

1217
00:59:57,440 --> 00:59:59,640
Speaker 2: and not LA, is my take really nice?

1218
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:00,480
Speaker 1: Interesting?

1219
01:00:01,160 --> 01:00:07,720
Speaker 3: Okay, because it's too it's sort of too literal. In LA, You're.

1220
01:00:07,600 --> 01:00:09,320
Speaker 2: Like, oh, I'm in the West, so I'm gonna wear

1221
01:00:09,320 --> 01:00:11,120
Speaker 2: a cowboy hat, whereas in New York it can be

1222
01:00:11,120 --> 01:00:11,840
Speaker 2: more of a statement.

1223
01:00:12,440 --> 01:00:15,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, in New York it's more like, you know, the

1224
01:00:17,720 --> 01:00:19,040
Speaker 1: club cowboy type thing.

1225
01:00:19,240 --> 01:00:23,480
Speaker 2: There. Also can just be more whimsy in New York fashion. Counterintuitively,

1226
01:00:23,520 --> 01:00:25,479
Speaker 2: I might add, because you would think LA people would

1227
01:00:25,480 --> 01:00:28,080
Speaker 2: have more whimsy because they all look so stupid, But

1228
01:00:28,240 --> 01:00:31,440
Speaker 2: in fact, New York people always, even if it's someone

1229
01:00:31,520 --> 01:00:33,720
Speaker 2: wearing all black, they're gonna have a little twist somewhere,

1230
01:00:33,880 --> 01:00:36,480
Speaker 2: like there's some there's a sense of humor to how

1231
01:00:36,480 --> 01:00:37,320
Speaker 2: you present yourself.

1232
01:00:37,320 --> 01:00:38,560
Speaker 4: There's no sense of fearing here.

1233
01:00:38,560 --> 01:00:42,920
Speaker 2: Where's in La. It's like if my little ruffled tank

1234
01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:48,040
Speaker 2: top moves a single centimeter, I will come crashing down emotionally.

1235
01:00:48,360 --> 01:00:54,440
Speaker 4: Absolutely absolutely, so I really do. It is interesting that

1236
01:00:54,920 --> 01:01:00,520
Speaker 4: people really dress like should hear at interesting?

1237
01:01:00,560 --> 01:01:04,480
Speaker 1: It's kind of wild. It actually brings everyone like there

1238
01:01:04,560 --> 01:01:06,840
Speaker 1: is like a force that brings everyone down to that

1239
01:01:06,920 --> 01:01:09,000
Speaker 1: level because you're like, well, I'm not gonna be the

1240
01:01:09,040 --> 01:01:10,040
Speaker 1: one sticking out.

1241
01:01:10,160 --> 01:01:12,720
Speaker 4: Okay. So here's my theory New York.

1242
01:01:12,880 --> 01:01:13,360
Speaker 1: You know, you go.

1243
01:01:13,480 --> 01:01:16,520
Speaker 4: It's because people write public transportation together, so you're forced

1244
01:01:16,560 --> 01:01:18,680
Speaker 4: to like be with your neighbor and like be part

1245
01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:22,240
Speaker 4: of community. Here the public transportation is bad, but the

1246
01:01:23,040 --> 01:01:25,600
Speaker 4: kind of public transportation equivalent is everybody dresses like.

1247
01:01:25,520 --> 01:01:30,360
Speaker 2: Shit, oh that's that community. That's community.

1248
01:01:30,440 --> 01:01:31,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's community.

1249
01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:38,200
Speaker 1: La. Everyone's beautiful. Yeah, wow, very inspiring. Yeah, Okay, I

1250
01:01:38,240 --> 01:01:42,600
Speaker 1: guess I'm gonna like it here. Should we do our

1251
01:01:42,600 --> 01:01:43,280
Speaker 1: final segment?

1252
01:01:43,400 --> 01:01:43,600
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1253
01:01:43,680 --> 01:01:43,919
Speaker 1: Wait?

1254
01:01:44,040 --> 01:01:47,520
Speaker 2: And any final word on kitchen islands?

1255
01:01:49,080 --> 01:01:54,360
Speaker 4: Mmm? Well, they're making me think of yet another actually

1256
01:01:54,400 --> 01:01:57,800
Speaker 4: Facebook thing, Yeah, which is those you know those videos

1257
01:01:57,840 --> 01:02:01,960
Speaker 4: where you're like is this pornograph, like I don't understand.

1258
01:02:01,080 --> 01:02:03,840
Speaker 1: It is this fetish content stuff, yes, which is like

1259
01:02:03,920 --> 01:02:05,640
Speaker 1: hands rolling dough for too long.

1260
01:02:05,840 --> 01:02:09,680
Speaker 4: Yes, Like here's mac and cheese again the nails, yeah,

1261
01:02:10,280 --> 01:02:15,360
Speaker 4: which immediately make me think of straight like lesbian porn.

1262
01:02:15,400 --> 01:02:18,720
Speaker 4: But it's actually straight women who are really uncomfortable totally

1263
01:02:18,840 --> 01:02:23,960
Speaker 4: just kind of kind of pointing toward their clips whatever.

1264
01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:27,880
Speaker 4: So it's like that kind of can movement and they're

1265
01:02:27,920 --> 01:02:30,040
Speaker 4: making like they're like, we're just going to put these

1266
01:02:30,200 --> 01:02:32,400
Speaker 4: chili beans onto this mac and cheese and it's going

1267
01:02:32,440 --> 01:02:38,320
Speaker 4: to be incredible. Like there's totally yes, viral foods, yeah, yes, yeah.

1268
01:02:38,360 --> 01:02:40,640
Speaker 2: Do you also get a lot of like handmade pasta

1269
01:02:40,880 --> 01:02:43,520
Speaker 2: content because that you sort of need a giant counter

1270
01:02:43,560 --> 01:02:45,760
Speaker 2: space to like put down all the flour and then

1271
01:02:45,840 --> 01:02:47,600
Speaker 2: break the crack the eggs in the middle.

1272
01:02:47,880 --> 01:02:49,880
Speaker 1: I wish none of that would be so much better

1273
01:02:49,920 --> 01:02:51,800
Speaker 1: than the nasty ship I get too.

1274
01:02:51,920 --> 01:02:54,600
Speaker 4: It's like it'll be like a silicon sometimes it's like

1275
01:02:54,600 --> 01:02:59,800
Speaker 4: a silicon boots, like more POLENTI into the silicon boot.

1276
01:03:00,680 --> 01:03:03,680
Speaker 4: Later we'll peel the silicon boot, and that's a polenta

1277
01:03:03,680 --> 01:03:05,959
Speaker 4: in the shape of a boot. I feel like those

1278
01:03:05,960 --> 01:03:08,640
Speaker 4: things are always assembled on a kitchen like a street kitchen.

1279
01:03:08,640 --> 01:03:12,640
Speaker 4: Count Yeah, this isn't like Alison roman Hand totally.

1280
01:03:13,400 --> 01:03:17,040
Speaker 2: Well, maybe that speaks to like the futility of the

1281
01:03:17,080 --> 01:03:20,120
Speaker 2: island where you you build it and then you're like,

1282
01:03:20,680 --> 01:03:23,400
Speaker 2: oh god, now I have to find reasons to use this.

1283
01:03:23,640 --> 01:03:27,520
Speaker 2: I have to make a polenta boot. I can justify it,

1284
01:03:28,360 --> 01:03:31,160
Speaker 2: justify it. Yeah, this is not to bring it again.

1285
01:03:31,480 --> 01:03:32,440
Speaker 2: This is kind of what I was thinking when I

1286
01:03:32,480 --> 01:03:36,680
Speaker 2: put on the cowboy hat. I was like, maybe I

1287
01:03:36,720 --> 01:03:38,720
Speaker 2: can work on a ranch for a month, then I

1288
01:03:38,760 --> 01:03:42,440
Speaker 2: can say I can wear the cowboy hat forever. Totally.

1289
01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:49,800
Speaker 1: Yes, that's beautiful. Okay, let's do a final segment.

1290
01:03:49,880 --> 01:03:58,760
Speaker 2: Let's do it. Let's do it, George, you do it,

1291
01:03:58,920 --> 01:04:03,640
Speaker 2: of course. And our final segment is called shout Outs.

1292
01:04:03,680 --> 01:04:08,840
Speaker 2: And in this segment we pay homage to the timeless

1293
01:04:08,840 --> 01:04:11,440
Speaker 2: and incredible, straight tradition of the radio shout out. So

1294
01:04:11,720 --> 01:04:13,920
Speaker 2: you're shouting at your friends back home, and you're shouting

1295
01:04:13,960 --> 01:04:17,320
Speaker 2: out something that is bringing you joy, something that you

1296
01:04:17,360 --> 01:04:20,120
Speaker 2: can't live without, something that you maybe want to draw

1297
01:04:20,200 --> 01:04:24,480
Speaker 2: some more positive attention to. And I think I have one.

1298
01:04:24,920 --> 01:04:26,040
Speaker 1: Please, I would love to hear it.

1299
01:04:26,120 --> 01:04:30,720
Speaker 2: Okay, what's up cinephiles and letterbox users out there.

1300
01:04:31,000 --> 01:04:32,280
Speaker 3: I want to give a shout out.

1301
01:04:32,120 --> 01:04:34,520
Speaker 2: To the movie Eeee, which I just saw for the

1302
01:04:34,560 --> 01:04:39,880
Speaker 2: first time in I'll say Lincoln Center, Baby Last Doing. Now,

1303
01:04:39,880 --> 01:04:41,480
Speaker 2: this is one of those movies that if you know

1304
01:04:41,560 --> 01:04:45,440
Speaker 2: those annoying film people, they are yap yap yapping about

1305
01:04:45,480 --> 01:04:48,120
Speaker 2: it all day long, and you say, all right, well,

1306
01:04:48,120 --> 01:04:49,680
Speaker 2: why am I gonna find the time to watch just

1307
01:04:49,840 --> 01:04:53,560
Speaker 2: three hour movie from two thousand about a family in Taiwan.

1308
01:04:53,960 --> 01:04:56,200
Speaker 2: And the answer is when it's playing at Lincoln Center

1309
01:04:56,280 --> 01:04:59,160
Speaker 2: and you can go in there, turn your phone off

1310
01:04:59,200 --> 01:05:01,120
Speaker 2: and not look at it in Instagram for three hours.

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Speaker 2: And you know what, it was worth it going all

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Speaker 2: the way uptown in the rain, because I left with

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Speaker 2: a new appreciation of family and new appreciation of life,

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Speaker 2: and new appreciation of filmmaking and then you appreciation for

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Speaker 2: the power of cinema. So I am encouraging everyone out

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Speaker 2: there to go.

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Speaker 3: Watch that movie.

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Speaker 2: And also, by the way, watch you know all those

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Speaker 2: movies that everyone keeps telling you to watch and you're like, oh, right,

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Speaker 2: Like if everyone likes it, how gonna be that good? Honey?

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Speaker 2: It's a classic for a reason. Go watch in the

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Speaker 2: mood for love. Go watch The Godfather. Just go watch

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Speaker 2: it because there's a reason that movies are canonized, and

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Speaker 2: you know, maybe skip anyone but you starring Sydney Sweemy

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Speaker 2: and go watch ye instead.

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Speaker 1: Whooo powerful, that's powerful? Yeah, I mostly I agree. And

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Speaker 1: I've been like trying to watch things like ironically less

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Speaker 1: or like watch things that I are like middle brow,

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Speaker 1: just because I want to watch something easy less.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, of course.

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Speaker 1: But that being said, that actually leads into my shout out,

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Speaker 1: which is a direct contrast to what I just said. Okay, conflict, Okay,

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Speaker 1: what's up freaks, losers and pervots around the globe? I

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Speaker 1: want to give a huge shout out to the Survivor

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Speaker 1: television show. I did start watching it in the pandemic

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Speaker 1: and it like, you know, I watched a few seasons

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01:06:24,880 --> 01:06:26,360
Speaker 1: and I was like that was fun whatever, and moved

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01:06:26,400 --> 01:06:28,520
Speaker 1: on never thought about it again. When I got on

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01:06:28,560 --> 01:06:31,600
Speaker 1: the plane here something was wrong with me and I

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01:06:32,080 --> 01:06:35,200
Speaker 1: hit play on whatever season of Survivor was on the plane,

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01:06:35,280 --> 01:06:37,720
Speaker 1: and since then all of my waking hours had been

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01:06:37,720 --> 01:06:41,040
Speaker 1: spent watching Survivor. It has been two weeks and I

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01:06:41,080 --> 01:06:44,680
Speaker 1: have plowed through three seasons and I have loved every second.

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01:06:44,760 --> 01:06:47,480
Speaker 1: I've spoken out loud to myself on the couch, being

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01:06:47,520 --> 01:06:49,840
Speaker 1: like that was a really good episode in a way

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01:06:49,880 --> 01:06:53,680
Speaker 1: that's so crazy, and it's just so amazing to feel

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01:06:53,800 --> 01:06:58,320
Speaker 1: such raw joy and to you know, finally when something clicks,

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Speaker 1: Oh baby, I feel part of a large community. I feel,

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Speaker 1: you know, all the Survivor watchers of the last twenty years,

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Speaker 1: you know, entering my soul, and I feel so powerful

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01:07:09,640 --> 01:07:12,920
Speaker 1: and held so shout out to Survivor. I also get

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01:07:13,000 --> 01:07:15,720
Speaker 1: Jeff Prope's steel now. I like to stand him for

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01:07:15,760 --> 01:07:18,280
Speaker 1: some reason, and that never spoke to me before. And

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Speaker 1: it's even getting to that point where I'm like, do

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01:07:20,320 --> 01:07:23,160
Speaker 1: I want to go and Survivor? And it's like I

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Speaker 1: don't know, I don't know, but I'm in La and

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01:07:25,480 --> 01:07:28,280
Speaker 1: I'm I've gone West and I'm wearing a cowboy hat

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Speaker 1: and the sublet and anything is possible.

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Speaker 5: X soo.

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Speaker 1: Sam wearing a cowboy hat at.

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Speaker 2: This damn wearing a cowboy hat at the sublet is

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Speaker 2: almost Alana.

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Speaker 1: Yah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not like quite.

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Speaker 2: It's actually sort of like if Lana hired like Max Martin,

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Speaker 2: and it's sort of it was like a compromise that

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Speaker 2: pleases no one is a hat in the suba cowboy.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of close to Chapel Rowan. Actually it is

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Speaker 1: so Chopel. Okay, Anna, whenever you are ready.

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Speaker 4: Okay, what's up, losers? Just kidding talking talking to all

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Speaker 4: my best friends out there. And I just want to

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Speaker 4: give a quick shout out to the aforementioned first seven

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Speaker 4: seasons of Wife Swap. It's honestly primetime reality television content.

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Speaker 4: It's so earnest. It's very problematic, but it's more honest

1375
01:08:29,760 --> 01:08:33,280
Speaker 4: about kind of the ways in which it's problematic. Racism

1376
01:08:33,280 --> 01:08:35,559
Speaker 4: hasn't really been dealt with on a mass scale yet,

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01:08:36,600 --> 01:08:38,599
Speaker 4: we haven't really trained people how to be in front

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Speaker 4: of the camera, and so it's just kind of a

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01:08:40,160 --> 01:08:44,679
Speaker 4: beautiful insight to what the great American psyche of television

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01:08:44,760 --> 01:08:47,320
Speaker 4: used to be in the So specifically we're looking at

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01:08:47,360 --> 01:08:49,479
Speaker 4: the two thousand and ones, two thousand and two's kind

1382
01:08:49,479 --> 01:08:54,640
Speaker 4: of around there and beautiful social commentary, really funny haircuts,

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01:08:56,400 --> 01:09:01,000
Speaker 4: really really problematic themes, and wonderful way to feel lobotomized

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Speaker 4: kind of in the company who.

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Speaker 1: I love that, and I actually find watching like extremely

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01:09:06,560 --> 01:09:09,840
Speaker 1: problematic reality from the past. It's whenever you're feeling like

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Speaker 1: really cynical about the world, you're like, well, look how

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Speaker 1: far we've come.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a good culture.

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Speaker 1: Like when I watched America's Next Time Model, I'm like, wow,

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01:09:18,040 --> 01:09:19,960
Speaker 1: we are such a different culture. Now.

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Speaker 4: Yes, that's a great yes, and it's all working. Do

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01:09:22,880 --> 01:09:27,640
Speaker 4: you right the season where Tire Banks was going to

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01:09:27,680 --> 01:09:31,439
Speaker 4: be a musician, no, Oh my god, there's there's this

1395
01:09:32,320 --> 01:09:36,439
Speaker 4: beautiful departure that she has that she quickly veers back

1396
01:09:36,479 --> 01:09:38,599
Speaker 4: on the road, by the way, like it's not she does,

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Speaker 4: she doesn't.

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Speaker 1: She's like promoting like tracks on the show, like.

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Speaker 4: I'm girls, I have to call you in here, sit down.

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Speaker 4: This is gonna blow your minds. I have a single

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01:09:48,320 --> 01:09:50,720
Speaker 4: that I'm putting out and the challenge is being in

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01:09:50,720 --> 01:09:53,320
Speaker 4: the video and if you're bad or cut out of

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01:09:53,320 --> 01:09:56,519
Speaker 4: the video. And she's talking about this, she's like crying

1404
01:09:57,040 --> 01:10:00,120
Speaker 4: and it means so much to her, and and it's

1405
01:10:00,120 --> 01:10:01,760
Speaker 4: so funny because it means so much to her because

1406
01:10:01,800 --> 01:10:04,080
Speaker 4: the song is so bad and it truly goes nowhere

1407
01:10:04,240 --> 01:10:06,320
Speaker 4: like we're not sitting here going oh yeah, I know

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01:10:06,360 --> 01:10:07,479
Speaker 4: which tire track that is.

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01:10:07,960 --> 01:10:11,479
Speaker 1: We're kind of going, well, don't tell gay guys are

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01:10:11,479 --> 01:10:19,280
Speaker 1: going to dig it up and make it a big hit. Sorry, guys, damn,

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01:10:20,680 --> 01:10:21,679
Speaker 1: apologize to gay guys.

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Speaker 3: Apologize to the rest of the world.

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Speaker 4: I'm actually really sorry to the gay guys. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Well it's about to be our favorite, so they're going

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01:10:30,400 --> 01:10:35,439
Speaker 1: to ironically yeah or wow. Maybe Gypsy Roads can hop

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01:10:35,479 --> 01:10:36,200
Speaker 1: on a due verse.

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Speaker 3: Well, folks, please write in to tell us if.

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Speaker 2: You are more eras tour Parish review or dan airas Turgarian.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah please, Yeah, And I guess that's it. Anda, Thanks

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Speaker 1: so much for doing the pod.

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Speaker 4: Thanks so much for having me at the time of

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Speaker 4: my life.

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Speaker 1: Oh well huge.

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Speaker 2: We could not have asked for a better guest, for

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Speaker 2: a better first guest. After four months of not replying.

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