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Speaker 2: The scandals do matter.

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Speaker 1: But we do have to stay focused on the big

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Speaker 2: Little window of power we have right now.

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Speaker 1: We need to make sure, in the words of a

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Speaker 1: we're keeping the big deal, the big deal. This Obama

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Speaker 4: Well for someone, am Mi, I be like all these

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Speaker 1: Criminals, setting me all the f words aside.

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Speaker 1: Obviously we can't just focus on Hunter Biden. It's Democrat

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Speaker 1: You don't want to have to pick strawberries, do you,

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Speaker 1: We'll stop. I could do this for an hour. Why

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Speaker 2: Well I need some new people in here. I need

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Speaker 2: Vote Democrat for the rest of their lives.

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Speaker 1: Thus, patriotic citizens like you simply get outnumbered in the end.

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Speaker 2: Why are all of.

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Speaker 2: It's about money and power.

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Speaker 1: Back in twenty twenty one, this boron Vet Clark again.

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Speaker 9: In the end, I'm saying, you know, I need more

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Speaker 1: I need more people in my district for redistrict purposes.

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Speaker 2: Otherwise I lose power. Not about the country.

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Speaker 1: The country never enters that demon's mind when she raises

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Speaker 2: So why Chuck Schumer got up and said this.

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Speaker 10: Now more than ever, we're short of workers. We have

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Speaker 1: Do keep in mind that it's not just Democrats that

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Speaker 11: If you are undocumented and you have been in the

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Speaker 12: That is fifty billion dollars plus. Just do the math.

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Speaker 1: Pretty revealing what these people think about America. You can

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Speaker 1: All that may have made you uncomfortable, but I am right.

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Speaker 1: We have a gigantic show for you. This Russian situation

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Speaker 13: There is irrefutable evidence that detail how President Obama and

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Speaker 1: I am really struggling not to get my hopes up.

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Speaker 2: Evidence is I'm going to go down for all this?

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Speaker 1: The guy who was on this a long time before today,

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Speaker 1: Lee Smith, author of Well, so many wonderful things, but

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Speaker 1: It may sound a little odd, but I'm asking this

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 7: He got away with all this stuff, and no one

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Speaker 2: Four, Lee, what did John Brennan?

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Speaker 7: I mean, there's something. I wrote a piece about this

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Speaker 1: Is there some I mean the Brennan's, the Clappers, the Comi's,

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Speaker 7: Very good question, I would say, And you know there

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Speaker 1: Another one of these communist henchmen who goes in there

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Speaker 13: This new information implicates former President Obama and criminal behavior.

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Speaker 13: the evidence that we have found and that we have

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Speaker 13: released directly point to President Obama leading the manufacturing of

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Speaker 13: this intelligence assessment. There are multiple pieces of evidence and

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Speaker 13: intelligence that confirm that fact.

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Speaker 1: Okay, well, that's really bad, and this, as we've talked about,

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Speaker 1: has gone to a different level here. It's one thing

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Speaker 1: for you and me to sit and talk about. It's

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Speaker 1: another thing entirely for the paperwork itself to land on

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Speaker 1: Pam Bondi's desk. But as I've told you over and

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Speaker 1: over again, these people have to go to prison, but

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Speaker 1: I'm not telling you they will. Powerful people oftentimes don't

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Speaker 1: go down. Let's see what Josh has to say. Joining

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Speaker 1: me now, my friend Josh Cammer, host of the Josh

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Speaker 1: Cammer Show. Josh, let's start with Barack Obama himself and

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Speaker 1: then we'll move on to the other things. Barack Obama

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Speaker 1: needs to go to prison for this, but I'm also

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Speaker 1: not naive.

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Speaker 2: Can he go to prison for this? Jesse?

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Speaker 14: I want to be told that he can. I also

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Speaker 14: think that Barack Obama's personal activity in the Russia collusion

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Speaker 14: delusion is irrefutable and undeniable, as many like Lee Smith,

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Speaker 14: have been saying for many, many years, and now Tolsey

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Speaker 14: Gabber is finally revealing you know for all to see

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Speaker 14: with this tremendous public service of the declassification. But I

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Speaker 14: do not see it happening unless there is something glaring

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Speaker 14: that I am missing, and I don't think that I'm

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Speaker 14: missing anything quite that glaring. This is a pretty straightforward

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Speaker 14: application of the US Supreme Court case that just came

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Speaker 14: down this past summer. We just did this, this idea

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Speaker 14: of trying to prosecute form president. In that case it

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Speaker 14: was President Donald J.

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Speaker 2: Trump.

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Speaker 14: We got to the Supreme Court. We have the case

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Speaker 14: Trump versus the United States. The Court, as many of

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Speaker 14: us predicted, kind of gives us this multi layer tier

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Speaker 14: of presidential conduct. But the Court said very clearly that

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Speaker 14: there is absolute immunity from future criminal prosecution for any

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Speaker 14: actions that were taken in office for core presidential activity.

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Speaker 14: And no matter how egregious, the underlying conduct is here,

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Speaker 14: and it is deeply, deeply offensive and egregious, it is

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Speaker 14: nonetheless core presidential activity. I hate to say it because

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Speaker 14: it involves the direction of the IC of the Intelligent Community,

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Speaker 14: the CIA, the FBI, and SA. I mean, this is

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Speaker 14: bread and butter Article two presidential power type stuff. So

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Speaker 14: I'm open to the other arguments. I would love to

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Speaker 14: be proven wrong. But I tend to be realist about

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Speaker 14: these things, and I love to give people false hope.

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Speaker 14: So I just don't see it happening.

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Speaker 12: Unfortunately.

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Speaker 5: No.

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Speaker 1: I love that you're a realist, Josh. I do let

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Speaker 1: me play the very uneducated, angry citizen, and I don't

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Speaker 1: have to play that.

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Speaker 2: That's exactly what I am.

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Speaker 1: So you are telling me that a president is allowed

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Speaker 1: to create false information using the Central Intelligence Agency attack

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Speaker 1: his political opponents with that, and he still has immunity

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Speaker 1: from doing that.

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Speaker 14: So I I mean, when he phrased it like that, look,

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Speaker 14: I really really want to say no. But if you

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Speaker 14: think about what he's actually doing there, he is directing

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Speaker 14: the intelligence agencies to purportedly act in accordance with gathering intelligence.

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Speaker 14: Now we know that's not what he's actually doing there.

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Speaker 14: He's trying to create this whole fraud, this hoax on

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Speaker 14: the American people, trying to handicap the Trump presidency in

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Speaker 14: this case before it even started, back during the transition period.

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Speaker 14: And sure enough, that's exactly what happened. By the way,

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Speaker 14: when Jim Callmi tapped Bob Muller, the Muller probe takes

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Speaker 14: up literally more than half over two years of the

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Speaker 14: four years of the first Trump term. So the Obama

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Speaker 14: plot was unfortunately phenomenally successful in undermining much of the

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Speaker 14: Trump presidency there. But this does seem to me like

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Speaker 14: it falls under the absolute immunity category of the Trump

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Speaker 14: versus United States a opinion at the Supreme Court. I'll

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Speaker 14: give you an example of something that would not fall

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Speaker 14: under the category of absolute immunity. If if Barack Obama,

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Speaker 14: you know, there's these rumors of blacka Michelle getting a divorce,

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Speaker 14: if Barack Obama finds Michelle Obama sleeping with someone else

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Speaker 14: and then in a fit of rage, takes out a

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Speaker 14: gun and shoots the guy dead. There, Okay, that's not

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Speaker 14: core Article two presidential power. That's a local homicide for

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Speaker 14: the Washington d C. Prosecutor's office and the Washington DC Police.

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Speaker 14: But something like this, unfortunately, I do think Jesse would

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Speaker 14: be immunized there. And I appreciate what the administration is

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Speaker 14: doing very very very much there, but I think they're

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Speaker 14: getting a little ahead of their skis when it comes

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Speaker 14: to the specific threat of prosecuting Barack Obama.

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Speaker 1: Okay, all right, let's set him aside. Then that sucks,

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Speaker 1: but that's life. Who can go down, Josh John Brennan, James,

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Speaker 1: call me to use your position, high up position in

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Speaker 1: these powerful agencies to politics on behalf of Democrats and

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Speaker 1: attack the republic like an incoming Republican president. That sounds

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Speaker 1: like a crime that should send you to prison for

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Speaker 1: the rest of your life.

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Speaker 2: Can they go down?

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Speaker 14: So look, I mean, I'm the lawyer, right, so I'll

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Speaker 14: play the part of lawyer. I mean, I mean, here's

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Speaker 14: how it works. When someone does something really, really bad,

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Speaker 14: you still need a specific statute that that outlines what

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Speaker 14: that person did wrong, and you it has to be

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Speaker 14: within the period of the statute of limitations. The statute

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Speaker 14: of limitations cannot have expired unless, of course you're at

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Speaker 14: your Alvin Bragg and then you somehow find a way

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Speaker 14: to get over the five year statute limitations for the

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Speaker 14: misdemeanor there and then the ridiculous Stormy Daniel's prosecution. So

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Speaker 14: you know, there are some very creative ways here, and

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Speaker 14: we can talk about that a little bit more if

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Speaker 14: you want to. But you know, Jesse, upon looking here again,

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Speaker 14: I haven't necessarily seen Pam BONDI the doj outline what

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Speaker 14: their theory of the case is yet. That's probably because

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Speaker 14: I'm not sure they have one yet. This is very

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Speaker 14: much a new, unfolding situation there. There are a few

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Speaker 14: possible statutes that come to mind. There's eighteen US Code

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Speaker 14: Seption two forty two, which is a federal criminal conspiracy

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Speaker 14: to deprive constitutional rights that has I believe a five

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Speaker 14: year or in most a seven year statute of limitations.

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Speaker 14: But I believe I believe it's a five year statute

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Speaker 14: of limitations. There's the Espionage Act, I guess in theory,

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Speaker 14: I mean that that is what the Democratic Law Fair

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Speaker 14: Complex use against Donald Trump and the Marol Lago Classified

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Speaker 14: Document's case. It's a very very sloppy fit here. There

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Speaker 14: is a seditious conspiracy, I mean conspiracy to literally commit treason,

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Speaker 14: which is basically what Tulsea Gabbert and Donald Trump himself

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Speaker 14: are saying there. I think that also has a five

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Speaker 14: to seven year statute of limitations there. So you would

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Speaker 14: have to start to get a little creative here when

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Speaker 14: it comes to trying to start the tolling of the

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Speaker 14: statute of limitations at a later date. I don't pretend

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Speaker 14: to know exactly how that would work, but that's the

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Speaker 14: kind of thing that you would basically have to do.

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Speaker 14: So it's possible, But I think that there are potentially

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Speaker 14: glaring statue of limitations problems, which makes sense, frankly, given

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Speaker 14: that we're talking about conduct that took place at this point,

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Speaker 14: almost a decade ago.

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Speaker 1: What about jurisdiction, Josh, everybody and their brother knows a

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Speaker 1: Democrat cannot be convicted of anything in Washington, d C.

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Speaker 1: Because it's only communists who live there. Therefore, only communists

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Speaker 1: in the jury pool. John Solomon and others have said

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Speaker 1: this case could very well be moved to Florida.

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Speaker 14: What say you, Well, there's no reason in theory why

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Speaker 14: it couldn't be moved out of Washington, d C.

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Speaker 12: I can't.

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Speaker 14: I can't necessarily think of a reason why it hasn't

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Speaker 14: necessarily be in Washington, d C. But yeah, he's right,

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Speaker 14: John Solomon is right that I assume that you have

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Speaker 14: a case, assuming that you've somehow managed to solve the

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Speaker 14: statute limitations problem, you found a statue that fits the

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Speaker 14: crime there, and we've got you know, we've got all

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Speaker 14: the eyes and crossed all those teas, then yeah, it's

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Speaker 14: entirely possible that a jury pool could basically sing this

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Speaker 14: before it even gets going there. That's that's always an issue,

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Speaker 14: of course, when it comes to these blue city jurisdictions. There, look, Jesse,

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Speaker 14: I guess kind of zooming out here. It's very frustrating

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Speaker 14: because I want to say that what I really feel,

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Speaker 14: which is that this was treason. I mean, this was horrid,

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Speaker 14: fit horrific, horrific behavior, and it is loathsome. It is

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Speaker 14: offensive to me as an American citizen, as an American patriot.

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Speaker 14: It is deeply offensive that there has not been a

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Speaker 14: smidgen of justice other than the former FBI attorney Kevin Kleinsmith,

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Speaker 14: who forged a fiz of surveillance warrant, who spy on

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Speaker 14: Carter Page. He's the only one who's paid any price.

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Speaker 14: And he just had twelve months probation in four hundred

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Speaker 14: hours of community service, so he got absolutely nothing. So

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Speaker 14: I hate, hate the fact that none of these people

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Speaker 14: are doing purp walks and handcuffs and serving time behind bars.

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Speaker 14: But again, I have to play the part of lawyer here,

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Speaker 14: and it's tough. It's an uphill slog, honestly.

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Speaker 1: All right, does Pam BONDI have the chops to try

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Speaker 1: this case or she gonna have to go special counsel.

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Speaker 14: This seems to me like it would be a good

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Speaker 14: fit for a special counsel if look, if the D

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Speaker 14: and I Tulsa Gabbard is as serious as she seems

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Speaker 14: to be about all the declassifications, which we've seen a

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Speaker 14: lot of this thus far. It kind of corroborates much

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Speaker 14: of what we've already known for years about the extent

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Speaker 14: to which John Brand others were involved there. And this

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Speaker 14: really is, indeed, this is one of the biggest scandals

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Speaker 14: in modern American political history there. It is absolutely the

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Speaker 14: kind of situation where a special council would be called for.

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Speaker 14: Now it's worth noting, and I'll just flag it that

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Speaker 14: we've kind of sort of already been down this road before.

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Speaker 14: It was it was the Durham probe. This is back

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Speaker 14: when the former US Attorney for Connecticut, John Durham, when

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Speaker 14: he was called in for to be a special council

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Speaker 14: to do exactly this back during the first Trump term,

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Speaker 14: and ultimately John Durham came back with a with a

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Speaker 14: conclusion that was basically a lame duck where he didn't

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Speaker 14: actually end up recommending any specific criminal prosecution. So there's

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Speaker 14: there's there's a potential risk here.

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Speaker 2: Of deja vu.

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Speaker 14: You know, the great New York Yankees Catcher Yogi Berra

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Speaker 14: what might have called a deja vu all over again.

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Speaker 14: But there is there had been new developments between the

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Speaker 14: Durham probe and now when it comes to what Tulsa

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Speaker 14: has declassified. So I'm I think that's probably the way

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Speaker 14: to go here. But again I'm very to get the

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Speaker 14: people's hopes up there because we have kind of tried

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Speaker 14: this already with the Durham probe, and that Durham probe

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Speaker 14: was basically a big fat nothing burger unfortunately.

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Speaker 1: Okay, finally, final one Adam shift. Is he going down

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Speaker 1: for mortgage fraud? Or is this more wishful thinking?

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Speaker 14: Okay, So that that is probably the highest probability item here.

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Speaker 14: I'm not going to confidently predict that that that he is.

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Speaker 12: But there is no real.

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Speaker 14: Kind of glaring kind of structural legal issue that leaps

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Speaker 14: off the page. There there's a there's not a Trump

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Speaker 14: versus the United States Supreme Court opinion on presidential immunity.

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Speaker 14: There's no kind of glaring statute limitations bomb there. At

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Speaker 14: that point, you're kind of getting into a factual dispute.

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Speaker 14: You know, may the best lawyer win, you know, pound

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Speaker 14: the table, convince the jury, that sort of thing. So

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Speaker 14: that's the kind of courtroom drama that I love, that

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Speaker 14: you love, that we all love there. That strikes me

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Speaker 14: as a much higher probability. Frankly, if I'm just being

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Speaker 14: very realistic, then what else we're talking about here?

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Speaker 1: He's the host of the Josh Hammer Show. If you

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Speaker 1: want more of this stuff, thank you, brother, I appreciate you.

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Speaker 2: That sucks.

655
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Speaker 1: I'm not surprised. I told you they need to go down.

656
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 1: That doesn't mean they're gonna go down. Well, see fingers crossed.

657
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 1: I'm always ready to be surprised. I'm surprised at how

658
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:16,640
Speaker 1: good olive oil can be. I'll tell you that that

659
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 1: surprises me. I've always been kind of okay on olive oil.

660
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 1: I understand Ah was gonna put it in whatever pasta

661
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 1: chicken she's cooking it. But I get all that, but

662
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 1: not a big deal to me. I didn't realize all

663
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:35,839
Speaker 1: of our olive oil was old. No one thinks about that.

664
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 1: The olive oil you buy in the grocery store is

665
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:42,600
Speaker 1: months old, sometimes years old.

666
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:43,919
Speaker 2: That's not good.

667
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 1: Think about how much flavor is lost during that period

668
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:52,400
Speaker 1: of time. Now, maybe you don't believe me, totally fine,

669
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Speaker 1: I get it. I'm not sure I would believe me.

670
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:57,040
Speaker 1: But you get a free bottle fresh from a farm

671
00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:00,960
Speaker 1: Farmfresh two four six dot com. They will send you

672
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:04,920
Speaker 1: a thirty nine dollars bottle of olive oil free. You

673
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:08,479
Speaker 1: just pay a buck to cover the shipping. Try one

674
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:11,759
Speaker 1: bottle of fresh olive oil. You'll be at farm Fresh

675
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:14,319
Speaker 1: two four six dot com every single time you need

676
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 1: some Go get some fresh olive oil. Now we have

677
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Speaker 1: a special edition of light in the Mood Next. Have

678
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:34,200
Speaker 1: you ever heard of cart narks? Look, I do the

679
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 1: same thing you do when I'm killing time.

680
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:37,799
Speaker 2: I'm in an airport.

681
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:39,879
Speaker 1: Maybe I'm in bed. You shouldn't do this before bed,

682
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:42,200
Speaker 1: but I do it. I go scrolling on social media

683
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:44,480
Speaker 1: and look for something, something that entertains me.

684
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:49,800
Speaker 2: Right, So cart narcs. You know this is a passion

685
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:51,320
Speaker 2: of mine. I've told you before.

686
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:54,399
Speaker 1: I'm not even really joking that if you could automatically

687
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 1: deport every human being who doesn't put their cart back,

688
00:37:57,160 --> 00:38:00,560
Speaker 1: the country would increase, It would be better, exponential, just

689
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:03,759
Speaker 1: because it tells you it's revealing of how you look

690
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:07,360
Speaker 1: at yourself in your place in the world. Well, we

691
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:09,400
Speaker 1: have Agent Sebastian with us.

692
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:11,800
Speaker 2: Now. Cart Narks is his baby.

693
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:14,759
Speaker 1: He's the founder of it, and I'm dying to talk

694
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:16,359
Speaker 1: to him before we get to him. Though, in case

695
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 1: you're wondering, maybe I haven't seen it. They expose these

696
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:21,760
Speaker 1: people here it is Oh.

697
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 15: Look at that half curving cutally where that's that where

698
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 15: the cards go?

699
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:25,319
Speaker 8: Sir?

700
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:30,240
Speaker 15: Well you should because they watched. What does the signs

701
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 15: say on the car? Return please return cards.

702
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:34,480
Speaker 3: Here and there?

703
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:35,920
Speaker 15: So I doesn't say please return cards there. I'm just

704
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:44,480
Speaker 15: getting to help putting into a shame, sir. Now, sir, well,

705
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 15: as soon as you return your cart, would you like

706
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:54,920
Speaker 15: a magnet instead? Now, sir, as soon as you take

707
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 15: your cards up?

708
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 12: Picture don't know you, I'll look at yourself. Who's carrying

709
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:04,360
Speaker 12: crab all alive?

710
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:05,440
Speaker 2: Look? Sir?

711
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:08,320
Speaker 5: Sir?

712
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 15: We give you two because you're being such an angry bones.

713
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 12: What're that mag flaggo? You know he's getting This guy

714
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:17,440
Speaker 12: is so.

715
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 15: Angry, he's getting double magnets and a flag. Watch out

716
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:27,440
Speaker 15: behind you, sir, what a jerk.

717
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:31,440
Speaker 2: Face joining me?

718
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:31,759
Speaker 7: Now?

719
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 1: Agent Sebastian the founder of Carton Arts. Okay, Sebastian, I

720
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 1: have to know how you even came up with this concept.

721
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:44,480
Speaker 12: Well, it's it is surprisingly dull. Quite frankly, it is.

722
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:46,880
Speaker 12: Was me and a friend talking in the office and

723
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 12: we were just asked.

724
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:50,759
Speaker 16: The question, why don't people do this? You know, what's

725
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 16: their problem? And people have been asking this question for decades.

726
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:57,960
Speaker 16: We're not I'm not original in that thought. But what

727
00:39:58,000 --> 00:39:59,360
Speaker 16: I did was I went out and asked people. I

728
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:01,520
Speaker 16: just walked up the p People didn't have the vest

729
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:04,000
Speaker 16: or the uniform of the magnets and that stuff, and I.

730
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Speaker 12: Just asked people. And immediately I got violence. All the

731
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 12: excuses in the book.

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Speaker 16: People were angry at me, really angry at themselves spoiler alert.

733
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Speaker 16: And so from there I just kind of said, well, okay,

734
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:20,239
Speaker 16: obviously there's something here. There's something ridiculous going on with

735
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 16: these people. And I just kind of thought to myself, well,

736
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:24,959
Speaker 16: what if that? Then what else?

737
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:27,239
Speaker 12: You know, the type of person who would do this?

738
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Speaker 16: Would they had there be an agency and one thing

739
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:30,760
Speaker 16: led to another, and that's where we are today.

740
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Speaker 1: I have to ask, because you're the one who's out

741
00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:38,200
Speaker 1: there in the field, if you will seeing these people

742
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:41,759
Speaker 1: meeting these people, do you notice any kind of a

743
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:44,279
Speaker 1: constant theme, and I mean, is.

744
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:47,000
Speaker 2: It old, young men, women, white, black?

745
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:50,120
Speaker 1: Is there any kind of a consistent theme or does

746
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:53,040
Speaker 1: it just come down to find the self centered person?

747
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:56,279
Speaker 16: And there you go, Well, you're right, You're right to

748
00:40:56,320 --> 00:41:01,319
Speaker 16: an extent there that is. It really doesn't matter a sex, raise,

749
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:04,800
Speaker 16: socioeconomic as far as the people who will leave them out.

750
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Speaker 12: That's across the board.

751
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:10,120
Speaker 16: However, the people who were willing to fight me, and

752
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:11,920
Speaker 16: what you kind of see and hear this guy didn't

753
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:15,120
Speaker 16: specifically attack me, but the guy Proberct previously did. The

754
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:16,920
Speaker 16: guys who are willing to fight me are number one

755
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 16: guys and number two they tend to be like thirty

756
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:24,240
Speaker 16: five to fifty five middle aged guys who are willing

757
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 16: to throw down over a shopping cart. And I think

758
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:30,759
Speaker 16: it has to do with they're now at the point

759
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 16: in their life where they're the boss. Because I'll go

760
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:35,239
Speaker 16: up to like eighteen nineteen twenty year olds, they're usually

761
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:40,320
Speaker 16: just like okay, but those older guys will want to battle,

762
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Speaker 16: and I think it has to do with, you know,

763
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Speaker 16: they don't want to hear it from me, some dweeb

764
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Speaker 16: and a vest.

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Speaker 1: Have you so have you been physically attacked? Surely one

766
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:53,359
Speaker 1: of these guys is it's big of a nut job

767
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 1: to actually throw a swing or something at you.

768
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 16: A lot have tried, even more have promised. But what

769
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 16: I tell people is it's really easy not to get

770
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 16: in a fight in life in general.

771
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Speaker 12: Just don't get in a fight.

772
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 2: Don't be within.

773
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Speaker 16: Arm and fist distance of a person which is only

774
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 16: three or four feet.

775
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:12,760
Speaker 12: And so then when people say, oh.

776
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:15,359
Speaker 16: You're you're a woos you won't fight, and I'm like, well, yeah,

777
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:18,239
Speaker 16: that's the whole point. The point of cardon Arcs is

778
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:20,480
Speaker 16: not to get in parking lot fights. It is to

779
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:24,680
Speaker 16: get people to behave in a civil manner. And again

780
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 16: that's why I say, use your words, don't fight over

781
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:29,880
Speaker 16: this stuff, you know, try to talk through your problems.

782
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:32,120
Speaker 12: But unfortunately some people just don't don't want to do that.

783
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:41,440
Speaker 2: So how how long have you been doing this? Exactly?

784
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:45,440
Speaker 1: And I'm asking, really, how long do you intend to

785
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:48,680
Speaker 1: do this? Because I geek out on these I find

786
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:51,520
Speaker 1: them to be so hilarious, and every time I see

787
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:53,640
Speaker 1: some guy losing his temper, I'll be honest, I worry

788
00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:56,400
Speaker 1: about your safety a little bit. There's so many psychos

789
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 1: out there now. Somebody pulls out a knife or something

790
00:42:58,719 --> 00:42:59,799
Speaker 1: like that, Well.

791
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 12: That's a fair fair question. I'm coming up on.

792
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:07,280
Speaker 16: Seven years, you know, part time as a hobby or whatever,

793
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:11,480
Speaker 16: and people have pulled knives, They've pulled guns, pepper spray, tasers,

794
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:13,920
Speaker 16: all that stuff, besides fists and all that other stuff

795
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:17,120
Speaker 16: and throwing stuff, you know, drinks or whatever at me.

796
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:21,359
Speaker 16: And yet you know, everybody, no matter what you're doing,

797
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:24,800
Speaker 16: especially in something that's a physical danger to yourself.

798
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 12: There's a retirement age. I don't know what that is yet.

799
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:31,360
Speaker 16: Hopefully I'm not forced into retirement via injury, but I

800
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:33,560
Speaker 16: do have no plans to stop as of yet.

801
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Speaker 1: How do you keep your cool when you're getting cussed

802
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 1: out like that when you call them I'll be honest,

803
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:40,240
Speaker 1: maybe the funniest part.

804
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:41,880
Speaker 2: Was when you called them a lazy bones. I just

805
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:43,839
Speaker 2: burst It makes me burst out laughing. Every time I've

806
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 2: seen that clip ten times. That just murders me.

807
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:50,480
Speaker 16: Well, it's I think it's my natural demeanor, is I.

808
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:54,319
Speaker 16: I'm just a calm, rational person in general, and so

809
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:56,120
Speaker 16: I was sort of built for this because I hear

810
00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:58,560
Speaker 16: that comment all that's a great, great observation. And somebody

811
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:01,720
Speaker 16: said I couldn't do Cardon because when somebody started swinging

812
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 16: at me and screaming at me and threatening to run

813
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:07,239
Speaker 16: me over, I would respond in kind, which I would

814
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:10,040
Speaker 16: be to an extent justified in doing so. But like

815
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:12,880
Speaker 16: you mentioned, it wouldn't It wouldn't go with the whole mission.

816
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:15,440
Speaker 16: The whole mission is to get people to behave civilly,

817
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:18,200
Speaker 16: and so part of it is I am naturally a

818
00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:19,759
Speaker 16: calm person. But part of it too is I've done

819
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:23,040
Speaker 16: this thousands of times, so I've seen the patterns of

820
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:24,640
Speaker 16: behavior over and over again.

821
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Speaker 12: Uh. And I just don't have to need to screaming anybody.

822
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:32,240
Speaker 2: Agent Sebastian. It is cart and Arcs.

823
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 1: Go track them down on YouTube. You will laugh until

824
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:38,759
Speaker 1: you cry. Thank you, my man, for the service you do.

825
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 1: I appreciate it.

826
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:44,120
Speaker 2: All right, Little something different tonight.

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Speaker 3: See them