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Speaker 1: Oh, it's gonna be a Monday for the Ages. What

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Speaker 1: the last four days we had? We're live, We're in Chicago.

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Speaker 1: It's Doc Herd. Wherever you may be, however you may

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Speaker 1: be listening. Thanks for making us part of your day.

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Speaker 1: You got a lot of choices out there. Sark Steve Sarkisian.

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Speaker 1: Stop fight Urban Meyer, Stop fight Lane. Kevin's going to LSU.

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Speaker 2: What don't we make it?

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Speaker 1: Affairs? What do we make of Mike Tomlin Pittsburgh. Let's

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Speaker 1: not waste any time one hour from now? Where Colin

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Speaker 1: was right? Where Colin was wrong? So you heard the chance? Potentially?

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Speaker 1: Did you hear the chance in Pittsburgh as the Bills

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Speaker 1: were rolling over the Steelers fire Mike Tomlin chance? And

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Speaker 1: I feel like the last eight years the Steelers are

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Speaker 1: the exact same team. They'll finish slightly above five hundred.

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Speaker 1: They have the bottom ten defense. They'll be better early

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Speaker 1: than November, December and January. And the quarterback plays limited

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Speaker 1: because they can't run the football and the old line

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Speaker 1: is always in crisis. That's what they are. You can

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Speaker 1: keep running through quarterbacks and left tackles and wide receivers

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Speaker 1: and drama and running backs coordinators, doesn't matter the guy

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Speaker 1: in charge. Mike Tomlin is tone def to offense. NFL

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Speaker 1: head coaches have gotten younger, smarter, and more offensive, and

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Speaker 1: these older defensive guys Pete Carroll, Bill Belichick, Mike Tomlin,

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Speaker 1: Ron Rivera Lovey Smith, they feel outdated. And I said this,

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, go to Minnesota or retire. You're just stepping

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Speaker 1: into Tomlin's quicksand And I would have no problem hiring

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Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin, say in Miami to stabilize the Dolphins.

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Speaker 2: I think he'd be a really good fit there.

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Speaker 1: But look around the league right now, who's the number

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Speaker 1: one seed in the AFC. Sean Payton offensive coach, the

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Speaker 1: Jaguars never deliver. Oh wait, now they're gonna win their

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Speaker 1: division potentially. Liam Cohen offensive coach. Sean McVeigh is number

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Speaker 1: two seed in the NFC. You know who number one is,

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Speaker 1: offensive coach Ben Johnson. I would argue Kyle Shanan's done

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Speaker 1: a better job coaching than anybody outside of Mike ravel

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Speaker 1: this year, another offensive coach. Offensive coaches are younger, they're smarter,

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Speaker 1: they're more current.

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Speaker 2: And I said this last week.

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Speaker 1: Offensive coaches can fix problems in the season. Defensive guys

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Speaker 1: feel like they need an off season. And I'm sorry,

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Speaker 1: but on defense they're old. The Steelers are expensive, Darius Slay,

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Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey, they're past their prime. They're paying a fortune

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Speaker 1: for it. They got gray beards on offense and on defense.

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Speaker 1: They took a defensive tackle instead of Jackson Dark. What

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Speaker 1: are you doing again? No urgency? This is a criticism

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Speaker 1: I said about Pete Carroll. Do you know Smith's not

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Speaker 1: good enough? Ron Rivera said, I got to Sam Howe,

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Speaker 1: not good enough, Aaron Rodgers. Don't blame him. Look around

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Speaker 1: the league. The rules have change. These old defensive guys.

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Speaker 1: I don't have a problem with the Miko Ryans, Mike McDonald.

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Speaker 1: They're young, they're current, they're aggressive. I mean McDonald took

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Speaker 1: over for Pete Carroll an hour later. The team was

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Speaker 1: better with the same players. So the last six Super

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Speaker 1: Bowls have featured head coaches with an offensive background. Doesn't

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Speaker 1: mean you have to hire him. But yesterday, finally, finally,

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Speaker 1: the fans said enough. I mean, you hold Buffalo to

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Speaker 1: what to make up Buffalo this year. Here was a

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Speaker 3: That's an awful performance by us, but it's us. We

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Speaker 4: You have a sense for how restless and frustrating the

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Speaker 3: Don't know how restless and frustrated I was, and so

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the defense has been the highest paid for four years.

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Speaker 1: It's not elite. Come on now, and this is not

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Speaker 5: We need to find ways to be able to make plays,

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Speaker 5: and I mean, I've never seen a team run the

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Speaker 5: ass defensive group. And that's all that I can speak on.

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Speaker 1: Ben Johnson has been in Chicago less than a year.

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Speaker 1: They already have an identity tough, physical, run the ball

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Speaker 2: Ben Johnson's done it in twelve thirteen weeks.

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Speaker 1: I'd hire him maybe in Miami. Doesn't mean he's not

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Speaker 1: a good coach, and it wouldn't fit other places. But

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Speaker 1: finally come to the realization that we have for about

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Speaker 1: three years. This is not good enough. It's just not

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Speaker 1: good enough. And All Miss wasn't good enough for Lane Kiffin.

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Speaker 1: Say what you want about Kiffin, you don't have to

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Speaker 1: like him. Harbaugh to Michigan, Kiffin to LSU. They feel big.

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Speaker 1: Harball was controversial for years. Kiffin's going to be controversial

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Speaker 1: every four weeks. This is great for college football. There's

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Speaker 1: an attention economy in college football. Dion did it at Colorado,

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Speaker 1: Kiffin is. And this is not LSU much better program

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Speaker 1: have signed up for this exit, when Kiffin got.

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Speaker 2: There, you've been irrelevant forever. I don't think.

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Speaker 1: I think last time you won an SEC championship was

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Speaker 1: arch or Eli. If I'd have told you four years ago,

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Speaker 1: Lane Kiffin's going to burn you at the end'll make

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Speaker 1: you the number one offense. It'll be the best Old

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Speaker 1: Miss football team ever. Stadium's packed, everybody in the country

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Speaker 2: He'll leave you. It'll be ugly.

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Speaker 1: You that taken it on the spot. You date the supermodel,

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Speaker 1: she dun't you? You knew it was coming. I mean

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Speaker 1: you were cheating with Hugh freeziyears ago. So you played

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Speaker 1: you weren't supposed to pay people. Don't get too precious,

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Speaker 1: old miss. Your history was Hugh Freeze. You supported him.

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Speaker 1: NCAA outrageous Nick Saban stopped recruiting in Mississippi with Hugh

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Speaker 2: So you played the game before. This is the game.

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Speaker 1: It's an eight billion dollar industry. I have complained for

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Speaker 1: years about college football. It's boxing. Bob aram don King

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Speaker 1: You buy it, you better know it's turbulent and you're

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Speaker 1: gonna get scorched. You're gonna have bad days. And that's

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Speaker 1: college football. I don't love I don't love leaving before

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Speaker 1: the playoff, but college football's calendar's always been weird, and

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Speaker 1: college football has put up no boundaries or regulations on this.

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Speaker 1: So the last fifty years, all miss five times has

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Speaker 1: had a ten win season. Kiffin gave you three, and

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Speaker 1: he gave you You're only eleven win regular season. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So and you got busted for cheating years ago with

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Speaker 1: Hugh Freeze, Houston, Nutt or ed or Jeron.

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Speaker 2: I can go through the coaches. Nobody wins there. Kiff.

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Speaker 1: It not only onenty one big, and the SEC has

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Speaker 1: always had one rule, always eat or be eaten. This

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Speaker 1: But he's a ladder climber and a lot of coaches

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Speaker 1: are and I get it. Nick Saban, get out of

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Speaker 1: here at Bama. USC fired him on a tarmac. Lane

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Speaker 1: Kiffen's reality is Al Davis fired him weirdly. USC fired

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Speaker 1: didn't know that going in, that's a you problem. Now,

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Speaker 1: this ridiculous comment that Lane Kiffen should be allowed to

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Speaker 1: coach at Old Miss having the LSU job. That's the

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Speaker 1: dumbest thing I've ever heard. So I don't blame Old

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Speaker 1: Miss for moving off him. I mean, that's just ridiculous.

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Speaker 1: People that say that on other networks. You've heard a

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Speaker 1: relegation in the English Premier League, you should be relegated

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Speaker 1: as an on air talent. If you're arguing that, I mean,

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Speaker 1: that's just ridiculous. That's not going to happen. I'm rooting

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Speaker 1: for Old Miss in the playoffs. Selfishly, I wanted to

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Speaker 1: But come on, man, college football it's like a weird

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Speaker 1: black market economy. They don't have a CEO, they don't

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Speaker 1: what you have in college football. They're called conference commissioners.

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Speaker 1: All they care about is themselves. Here was Lane Kiffin after.

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Speaker 4: This was a very challenging difficult day. You know, we

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Speaker 4: went through a lot last night with Keith Carter trying

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Speaker 4: his decision, and I totally respect that. I understand that decision,

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Speaker 4: and you know, so I just totally wish the team

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Speaker 4: the best of the luck, wish that I was coaching,

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Speaker 4: but understand that it was a very challenging position for

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Speaker 4: you know, just really really hope they play really well

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Speaker 4: and go win the national championship.

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Speaker 1: Good job by Marty Smith there, Hey, listen, this idea

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Speaker 1: that Kiffin's trying.

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Speaker 2: To direct the program.

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Speaker 1: Have any of you guys ever gotten a great job,

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Speaker 1: because when you do, you take three or four people

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Speaker 1: from your great job to the next job. It didn't

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Speaker 1: take the entire staff. He's not trying to direct the program.

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Speaker 1: He's not rooting against old Miss, but he's now the

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Speaker 1: but it's always remarkable to me when people get into

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Speaker 1: along with him. Fine, he's not for everybody. I think

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Speaker 1: he's grown up. But you'd have taken him if I'd

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Speaker 1: have told you. He's gonna burn you in the end.

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Speaker 1: But it'll be four years of bliss. You'll be the

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Speaker 2: Heard hierarchy.

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Speaker 1: I watched them go to Buffalo and win. I watched

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Speaker 1: They don't run the football particularly well well. The Chiefs

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Speaker 1: what I'm supposed to do with them. You keep telling

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Speaker 2: They keep winning? What am I supposed to do with

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Speaker 1: Well, what a wild, wild conclusion. I mean, at least

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Speaker 1: I don't think bad losses should be the be all

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Speaker 1: And Miami, you know, Texas went and played an SEC

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Speaker 1: To me, it's an SEC team, it's ninety thousand people,

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Speaker 9: Of course, of course Miami has a real case and

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Speaker 9: Texas has a real case.

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Speaker 2: And there's so many ways to go.

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Speaker 9: Let me, let me just start with, like, the problem

436
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Speaker 9: is obviously the format obviously right, because we're trying to

437
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Speaker 9: have this selection based playoff and it doesn't matter if

438
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Speaker 9: you have computers do it or people do it. Like

439
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Speaker 9: it's subjective and there's no way that you can rank

440
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Speaker 9: the criteria, or or at least they don't rank the

441
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Speaker 9: criteria and tell us which one is going to take

442
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Speaker 9: precedent over the other. So there's all different types of criteria.

443
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Speaker 9: You can take a head to head criteria or resume criteria,

444
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Speaker 9: the eye test criteria, did you get to a conference

445
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Speaker 9: championship game? What did your schedule look like in particular

446
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Speaker 9: in the non conference, And yet we don't rank those

447
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Speaker 9: So what value does any of those criteria actually have

448
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Speaker 9: towards the ranking? Well, we don't know, and I think

449
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Speaker 9: that's the arbitrary nature of it is what's frustrating. I've

450
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Speaker 9: argued for a long time that we need to define

451
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Speaker 9: the path you see, like for instance, in every other sport,

452
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Speaker 9: always in forever, what do we do to break tiebreakers?

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Speaker 5: Colin?

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Speaker 9: The first one is head to head always, always. And

455
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Speaker 9: so here's the thing with Notre Dame. I don't think

456
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Speaker 9: they're just in. I know that they're not going to

457
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Speaker 9: play another game in Miami is not going to play

458
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Speaker 9: another game, But but they have this buffer that is BYU.

459
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Speaker 9: And so if you actually play this out, I think

460
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Speaker 9: Notre Dame is actually more likely to miss the playoff

461
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Speaker 9: than make the playoff.

462
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Speaker 2: And here's why.

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Speaker 9: If BYU wins in the Big twelve championship game beats

464
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Speaker 9: Texas Tech, they get an automatic spot and there's almost

465
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Speaker 9: no scenario where Tech falls behind Notre Dame. Therefore, Notre

466
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Speaker 9: Dame would fall out. Now if BYU loses to Texas Tech,

467
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Speaker 9: maybe similar fashion to the way they lost already this

468
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Speaker 9: year when they played Tech twenty nine to seven. It

469
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Speaker 9: was a dominant victory for the Red Raiders. Wouldn't by

470
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Speaker 9: you almost assuredly just fall maybe one spot or two

471
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Speaker 9: spots in the rankings behind Miami, which then would promote

472
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Speaker 9: a direct comparison with what we're talking about, two teams

473
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Speaker 9: right next to each other, same record, with a head

474
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Speaker 9: to head result. I think Notre Dame's actually in a

475
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Speaker 9: really precarious spot right now.

476
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Speaker 1: I listen, you know me, I like big brands. I

477
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Speaker 1: want Notre Dame in Miami and Texas all in right,

478
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Speaker 1: that's what I'm rooting for.

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Speaker 2: I think Texas is cooked. I don't see the way

480
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Speaker 2: they get in. I know, but it.

481
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Speaker 1: Didn't unbelievable beat Oklahoma like a drum dominated, bandy dominated

482
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Speaker 1: and they losed Ohio State by seven. From that point forward,

483
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Speaker 1: Ohio State won by an average of thirty one. They're

484
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Speaker 1: the only team that played a super close game in

485
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Speaker 1: Columbus four new offensive linemen, and you're like, best college

486
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Speaker 1: defense probably either one of us has seen in half

487
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Speaker 1: a decade. And they lose by a touchdown and Texas

488
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Speaker 1: didn't play well, and you're like, I don't know, Like, listen,

489
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Speaker 1: they don't match.

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Speaker 2: Out with Georgia. They just don't. That happens. They don't

491
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Speaker 2: match up with Georgia.

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Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, Indiana scheduled a week at

493
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Speaker 1: a conference schedule right now, they'd have a bye.

494
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Speaker 2: What if Indiana gets smoked.

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Speaker 1: What if it is thirty eight seventeen and it looks

496
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Speaker 1: like the Indiana Notre Dame game last year? What if

497
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Speaker 1: Indiana gets smoked, what happens to them?

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Speaker 9: I don't think they fall out of by territory. And

499
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Speaker 9: the reason is that Oregon will act as a buffer. Remember,

500
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Speaker 9: they beat Oregon, so like Oregon is their floor. So

501
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Speaker 9: even if they fall down with what they've done this year,

502
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Speaker 9: they're probably still going to remain in the top four.

503
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Speaker 9: Even even if they were to get now, I don't

504
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Speaker 9: think they'll get smoked. I think that's a very good

505
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:08,120
Speaker 9: and complete team. Now, did they play a soft non conference?

506
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Speaker 9: There's no doubt that they played a soft non conference.

507
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Speaker 9: But I don't see a situation where either the loser

508
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Speaker 9: of the Big Ten championship game, Ohio State or Indiana

509
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 9: falls out of a position where they're getting a buy

510
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Speaker 9: in the first round of the College football Playoff.

511
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Speaker 1: Okay, if what if okay Bama went to Georgia. It's

512
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Speaker 1: one of the I mean, honestly, one of the most

513
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Speaker 1: perfect game plans I've ever seen. They beat Georgia in Athens.

514
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Speaker 1: They were flawless, one of the best habs of football

515
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Speaker 1: played by anybody this year. What if Georgia beats them?

516
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Speaker 1: And by the way, Georgia and Kirby Smart don't beat

517
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Speaker 1: Alabama much like it that you talk about a matchup.

518
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Speaker 1: Georgia doesn't beat Bama, Texas doesn't beat Georgia. What if

519
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:45,920
Speaker 1: Bama gets smacked? Can they get knocked out?

520
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Speaker 9: I think possibly, Although the history and the precedent from

521
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Speaker 9: the committee last year was that they weren't going to

522
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Speaker 9: penalize teams for losing conference championship games. And we saw

523
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Speaker 9: that when SMU lost to Clemson, you remember, and Clemson

524
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Speaker 9: got the automatic automatic berth but then SMU stayed in

525
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Speaker 9: college football playoff that went to Penn State and loss

526
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Speaker 9: in the first round. So President would tell you that

527
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Speaker 9: this committee is going to value conference championship games and

528
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Speaker 9: not not knock a team for losing that now here,

529
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Speaker 9: let me just say this sake of argument, let's just

530
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Speaker 9: pull ourselves out thirty thousand foot view for a moment,

531
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Speaker 9: because that would suggest that this committee is trying to

532
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Speaker 9: protect or value conference championship games. And I would make

533
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Speaker 9: the argument that in college football for the last ten

534
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Speaker 9: and twenty years, we have done a really poor job

535
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Speaker 9: of trying to protect and value things that are obviously

536
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Speaker 9: going to die, like amateurism and bowl games, for example.

537
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Speaker 9: These are things that obviously don't fit in what's going

538
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Speaker 9: to happen in the future of our sport, and the

539
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 9: fact that they didn't move off of amateurism early led

540
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Speaker 9: to the chaos that we have now with the transfer

541
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Speaker 9: portal and the revenue share. The fact that they won't

542
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Speaker 9: move off of bowl games gives us a regular season

543
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:55,720
Speaker 9: and then playoff that leaks into the NFL playoffs that

544
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:59,040
Speaker 9: leaks into the transfer portal late into January. So we're

545
00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:01,360
Speaker 9: not nimble in colleg a football. And if you protect

546
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Speaker 9: a conference championship game, the writing is on the wall

547
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 9: colin these games are being devalued. There's no reason to

548
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:10,680
Speaker 9: protect those. So if Bamba were to get smacked, I

549
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:13,040
Speaker 9: could see a situation where, depending on what happens in

550
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Speaker 9: the BYU Texas second game, they get in, maybe Miami

551
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Speaker 9: gets in, and maybe you know, they take another look

552
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Speaker 9: at Texas in that regard. But I do think that

553
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 9: we need to start putting the right value in the

554
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:27,800
Speaker 9: right spots. I think that we need to start talking

555
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 9: about defining the path to the playoff rather than having

556
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Speaker 9: a selection based committee playoff. These things would be better

557
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Speaker 9: for the sport. Not to get too long winded, but

558
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Speaker 9: just for an example, just for an example, imagine this weekend.

559
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Speaker 9: If we had a play in weekend and this didn't

560
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:43,360
Speaker 9: live in a committee room, but it lived on the

561
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:45,800
Speaker 9: field where we had based on where you finished in

562
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Speaker 9: your conference, automatic bursts per conference, maybe four each for

563
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Speaker 9: the big guys SEC and Big ten, maybe two each

564
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Speaker 9: for the ACC and the Big twelve. And then you

565
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Speaker 9: would get matchups this weekend colin like Texas at Texas

566
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Speaker 9: A and m winner goes to the playoff, BYU Utah

567
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:05,800
Speaker 9: winner goes to the playoff, Miami Duke winner goes to

568
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Speaker 9: the playoff. So we would be able to say, hey, listen,

569
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:11,040
Speaker 9: rather than just sitting there and watching your TV and

570
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 9: seeing if a committee puts you in, you control your

571
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:16,240
Speaker 9: own fate. Go play a football game for sixty minutes

572
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 9: and if you can win that game, then you're going

573
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Speaker 9: to go on into a fourteen team playoff. That's what

574
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Speaker 9: I would do. Yeah, but no one's making me commissioner yet.

575
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 9: If you've got that power, please do so.

576
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Speaker 1: If I was commissioner, I would say head to head

577
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Speaker 1: one quality wins two, That to me should be It

578
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 1: would clarity would be pretty easy. I mean, Texas would

579
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 1: be in Notre Dame. Would not be like head to

580
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Speaker 1: head matters quality. Because I want better scheduling, I would

581
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Speaker 1: take it away from at large.

582
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Speaker 2: I just don't.

583
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Speaker 9: I don't like this idea that we're just like selecting teams.

584
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Speaker 2: Now.

585
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Speaker 9: Even if you define the criterion valued them as you're

586
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 9: saying in a particular order, that would help. That would

587
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 9: certainly help. I would just rather put it on the field.

588
00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:00,479
Speaker 9: I would rather have a play in weekend. Play weekend

589
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 9: with fourteen teams would create more value at the top

590
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 9: because there would only be two buys. So you're really

591
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:08,800
Speaker 9: creating a top end incentive for those teams to play

592
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:11,240
Speaker 9: hard late into the season, the best teams in the country,

593
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Speaker 9: and more access and control.

594
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Speaker 2: At the bottom.

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Speaker 9: You know, I That's what I would do, Okay, I

596
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 9: got three.

597
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Speaker 1: Things, though, I'm gonna get to Penn State Lane Kiffin

598
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Speaker 1: before I do that. I can see Ryan Day wants

599
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Speaker 1: to win every game but the conference championship. For like

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Speaker 1: Ohio State means nothing. I don't want guys hurt. My

601
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Speaker 1: takeaway is, and I also I'm going to have to

602
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Speaker 1: play somebody I don't want them seeing, you know, I

603
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Speaker 1: want them to have to go back eight games to

604
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 1: find some of my tricks. I could see Ohio State saying,

605
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Speaker 1: you know, any player that's kind of banged up, you're

606
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 1: not playing and kind of doing a vanilla playbook, and

607
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 1: then they lose because if I'm the bottom line is

608
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Speaker 1: if I beat Michigan and winning Natty, nobody gives a

609
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:52,880
Speaker 1: rip about Indiana.

610
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Speaker 2: You beat Michigan, you win a Natty.

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Speaker 1: So I guess my question is is it possible we're

612
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Speaker 1: gonna get a really flat, uninspired I heard Buckeye team

613
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Speaker 1: this weekend.

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Speaker 9: I don't think so, because they've been business like the

615
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Speaker 9: entire year. It didn't matter if we saw him at

616
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Speaker 9: you know, I saw him play Rutgers, I saw him

617
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:12,600
Speaker 9: play Illinois, and they were the same every single week.

618
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Speaker 9: And I feel like we're going to get the same

619
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Speaker 9: business like approach from the Buckeyes. Let's also keep in

620
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Speaker 9: mind this is a program. None of these players have

621
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Speaker 9: won a Big Ten title. This is not like old

622
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 9: hat for Ohio State. We might feel like that because

623
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:27,600
Speaker 9: we've seen Ohio state of recent vintage, but this program

624
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:30,520
Speaker 9: hasn't won a Big Ten title since twenty twenty. They're

625
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 9: going to want to go out there and put their

626
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Speaker 9: best foot forward. There's also more on the line when

627
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 9: you think about the Heisman Trophy. Julian Sayin's going to

628
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:38,080
Speaker 9: have to play well in order to win the game

629
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Speaker 9: in order to win the Heisman Trophy. So I still

630
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:41,840
Speaker 9: think that there's a lot on the line. The number

631
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:44,120
Speaker 9: one seed overall in the playoff is going to be beneficial.

632
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 9: You'd rather play the number four team in the country

633
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:49,480
Speaker 9: in the semi final than the number two or three

634
00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:51,880
Speaker 9: team in the semi final. So all of those things

635
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Speaker 9: I think will be incentive for them to go put

636
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:55,560
Speaker 9: their best foot forward.

637
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Speaker 2: Okay, let's get to Kiffin.

638
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Speaker 1: Listen, I've said, don't marry the rock star and be

639
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:04,400
Speaker 1: shocked when he says, I got to go on tour

640
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Speaker 1: for a couple of months.

641
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:07,320
Speaker 2: Yeah. Ole Miss would.

642
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:11,360
Speaker 1: Have signed up for where they're at today five years ago. Sure,

643
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:14,880
Speaker 1: number one offense in the country eleven wins, but he's

644
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:17,399
Speaker 1: gonna burn you on the way out. Ole Miss would

645
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 1: have signed up for that. So I don't have when

646
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:22,880
Speaker 1: you go into business or you go into a relationship,

647
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Speaker 1: as long as you get full disclosure, and it was

648
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 1: on Lane Keffen. I don't have a lot of sympathy

649
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:31,280
Speaker 1: for Old Miss. They benefited just like everybody that hires

650
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:33,920
Speaker 1: Lane does. Your offense gets better, you get talked about,

651
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:38,319
Speaker 1: there's controversy and social media. I mean, I guess the

652
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:40,480
Speaker 1: whole thing doesn't bother me as much as it probably

653
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 1: bothers everybody else, does it?

654
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:41,879
Speaker 2: Well?

655
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Speaker 9: You, I just everything that you said is correct, nothing

656
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:48,920
Speaker 9: you said is wrong there. Yeah, I mean he's got

657
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 9: the five messiest exits in maybe football history. I mean,

658
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:55,440
Speaker 9: think about it, Al Davis with the overhead projector you

659
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 9: got the Tennessee debacle. He's left on the tarmac and

660
00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:01,799
Speaker 9: usc Saban told him to Rocks before the National Championship

661
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 9: game and now here at Old Miss. So everything that

662
00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 9: you're saying, yes, if you're Old Miss again, Ole Miss,

663
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 9: the program, the administration, I'm sure that this is kind

664
00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:15,920
Speaker 9: of like, yeah, maybe this was always in the cards,

665
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:19,319
Speaker 9: or certainly we could expect this. But I think of

666
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 9: it not from the Old Miss perspective, and I think

667
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:23,920
Speaker 9: of it from the player's perspective. If you're one of

668
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 9: those players and you're sitting in the meetings in August

669
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 9: in early September and they're talking about team first and

670
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:32,080
Speaker 9: committing and let's go achieve something and here are our

671
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 9: team goals. Well, he just left that team and they

672
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 9: are going to field spurred and trust me, like you're

673
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 9: seeing articles out there where some of these players are

674
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 9: are pushing back on this narrative that Lane, you know,

675
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:46,759
Speaker 9: wanted to coach, and they wanted him to coach, and

676
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 9: they're like, no, you know, we feel pretty betrayed by

677
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:53,759
Speaker 9: Lane Kiffin. And rightly, so listen, I don't begrudge this

678
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 9: man his movement. And he's going to go, and he

679
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:57,560
Speaker 9: thought LSU was going to be a better opportunity for

680
00:35:57,600 --> 00:35:59,879
Speaker 9: he and his family, you know, more power to him,

681
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 9: but that doesn't mean that there are not consequences to

682
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:05,760
Speaker 9: those decisions. And he did leave a team high and dry,

683
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 9: and he left those players high and dry. That's going

684
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:10,759
Speaker 9: to hurt his credibility moving forward. And he also went

685
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:13,399
Speaker 9: to a place that, let's face it is not.

686
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:15,360
Speaker 2: As sound foundationally.

687
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 9: They might have more resources, but it's certainly a lot

688
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:21,239
Speaker 9: more crazy at LSU. It's like, listen, you know you

689
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:23,399
Speaker 9: can go with a six to prom and that six

690
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:25,920
Speaker 9: is going to be committed to you. You take the nine,

691
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 9: she might be crazy.

692
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:33,239
Speaker 2: All right, that's a good way to put it.

693
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 1: Okay, you and I did not like Penn State. They

694
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 1: did not like you and I didn't like Penn State

695
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 1: abruptly canning James Franklin. Well, now what's happened is the

696
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:48,400
Speaker 1: power brokers who run this sport, the agents are freezing

697
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 1: out Penn State and they have like the recruiting class.

698
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:55,760
Speaker 1: I'm surprised they haven't called me. They are not recruiting

699
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:58,759
Speaker 1: anybody like like there, Montana is going to have a

700
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:04,040
Speaker 1: better recruiting class that they than pay. So I what

701
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 1: do you think happens?

702
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:06,240
Speaker 2: It's a good job.

703
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 9: It's a good job, but unfortunately for them, and then

704
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:13,239
Speaker 9: I know that people involved it has been mismanaged. I

705
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:15,880
Speaker 9: think that they had a plan when they fired James Franklin,

706
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:19,040
Speaker 9: and I think that that plan involved Kurt Signetti, and

707
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:22,479
Speaker 9: Kurt Signetti was like, Nope, that ain't that ain't my bag.

708
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 9: And once that happened, then they were behind the eight ball.

709
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 9: And now they've been gotten passed up by these other programs.

710
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 9: So I think here's the thing. I think that Penn

711
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:35,960
Speaker 9: State went after Kloni Sataki pretty hard, and Crumble Cookie

712
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:37,839
Speaker 9: came in and said, our cookies are delicious and they're

713
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 9: making a lot of money and no, and if you

714
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:43,360
Speaker 9: don't know that, the Crumble Cookie guy is a BYU

715
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:44,880
Speaker 9: guy and he came in with a lot of it.

716
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:46,839
Speaker 2: It's a big meme and it's fantastic.

717
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:50,120
Speaker 9: So now I think that there's probably a couple of

718
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:52,439
Speaker 9: guys that they're still in talks with and trying to get.

719
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:54,279
Speaker 9: I think Brian dave Ball is still in play. I

720
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 9: think Jeff Brahm at Louisville is still in play. And

721
00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:58,879
Speaker 9: the fact that it hasn't happened yet. And today, by

722
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:01,719
Speaker 9: the way, is National sign early signing Day. Players can

723
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:04,959
Speaker 9: recruits can sign to your school today. And Penn State

724
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:07,360
Speaker 9: doesn't have a coach, which is wild. It speaks to

725
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:10,120
Speaker 9: the possible mismanagement of what's going on, or at least

726
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 9: it's going off the rails. And they don't have a coach,

727
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:15,319
Speaker 9: which also leads me to believe that something is up

728
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:18,880
Speaker 9: their sleeve. Colin, I think that they are targeting a

729
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:22,799
Speaker 9: coach that is still playing this week, and I if

730
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:25,880
Speaker 9: you just go process of elimination, this is not information

731
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 9: that I've heard from anybody. If process of elimination, you think, well,

732
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 9: Kirby's not going anywhere, Sataki told him no, Joey McGuire's

733
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:35,279
Speaker 9: not going anywhere. Both guys in the American at two

734
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 9: Lane in North Texas some are all and Eric Morris

735
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 9: they already have a place to go. Is it Tony

736
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:44,879
Speaker 9: Elliott at Virginia possibly, Manny Diaz at Duke possibly? Or

737
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:48,840
Speaker 9: is it Kaylin de Boor at Alabama? I think that

738
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:51,680
Speaker 9: they might be going after a guy that is coaching

739
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:55,600
Speaker 9: this week, which is why it's bleeding into the signing day.

740
00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:59,239
Speaker 2: Caylin de Boor, by the way, is a Midwest guy,

741
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:06,200
Speaker 2: isn't He got has started in South Dakota? How about

742
00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:07,960
Speaker 2: that again?

743
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 9: I haven't No one's told me that officially, But I

744
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:14,279
Speaker 9: if you just play that out, like why do you

745
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:17,280
Speaker 9: not have a coach yet, he's got to still be coaching.

746
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:21,840
Speaker 1: That's clet That's pretty good closure right there. You just

747
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:24,799
Speaker 1: went Mariano Rivera on us. That was a pretty good clothes.

748
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:25,840
Speaker 2: Right, cut her in on the hands.

749
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 1: Just okay, Well, I'm gonna enjoy the games you have Indiana,

750
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:38,160
Speaker 1: Ohio State. I like Ohio State. Man, you're getting good games.

751
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:40,319
Speaker 2: You love it. Did you get a job promotion here

752
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:41,760
Speaker 2: at the company they're giving you a good games.

753
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:44,960
Speaker 9: No, no, they said that I've been I've been doing

754
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 9: a good job on these hits. So this is it's

755
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:48,879
Speaker 9: reward for doing a good job here.

756
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 2: Joe Clatt, good thing. See you, brother. That's interesting. I

757
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:58,480
Speaker 2: think Klen de Bor is unbelievable. I really do.

758
00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:01,359
Speaker 1: I think Bama's you know, every he's banging on. He's

759
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 1: not coaching the Saban Bama teams. You understand Saban left

760
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:09,200
Speaker 1: Bama right. You think it's because of age, but you

761
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:12,799
Speaker 1: watch Saban on TV. He's still funny as ever. Energy's unbelievable.

762
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:16,319
Speaker 1: White Saban get out. I said this about four years ago.

763
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:20,320
Speaker 1: He played Sark when the nil started, about.

764
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:20,719
Speaker 2: Four years ago.

765
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:23,680
Speaker 1: Whatever it was, he played Sark, and Sark had all

766
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:27,600
Speaker 1: that Texas money and Saban's no dummy. Remember he started

767
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:31,719
Speaker 1: complaining publicly. He looked at A and M and the Longhorns.

768
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:37,920
Speaker 1: That's Texas money. I mean, Texas is the Bentley Alabama

769
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:41,600
Speaker 1: money is a glove compartment in a Kia you're talking

770
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 1: Texas money. Saban played Texas and went. I got no

771
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:49,000
Speaker 1: interest going toe to toe with the Aggies and the

772
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:53,879
Speaker 1: Longhorns bags of money. So Saban's like exit stage right.

773
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:57,319
Speaker 1: Caitlin de Bord takes it. Everybody's like, well, he's not

774
00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:00,200
Speaker 1: as good. He doesn't have the players. When you wch

775
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:03,040
Speaker 1: Bama played Georgia this weekend, George's got more good players.

776
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:07,480
Speaker 1: If Ohio State played Bama, Ohio skits out much better players.

777
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:12,480
Speaker 1: I think Texas has better players. So and I think

778
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:16,400
Speaker 1: Greg Burn the ad hired the right guy. But you

779
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 1: know it's really unfair to say, well, I mean this guy,

780
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:21,920
Speaker 1: this guy's an unbelievable coach.

781
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:27,239
Speaker 2: I just root for great coaching. That guy's a great coach.

782
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 2: One more Heard.

783
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:30,919
Speaker 7: The Herd streams twenty four hours a day, seven days

784
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:34,120
Speaker 7: a week within the iHeartRadio app. Search Herd to listen

785
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 7: live or on demand whenever you like. Let's blaze it up,

786
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:44,160
Speaker 7: Fired it Up. It's Collins Blazon, Fuck Bengals and Bills.

787
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:49,760
Speaker 1: I like Cincinnati getting T Higgins back plus six coming

788
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:56,360
Speaker 1: off extra rest nineteen and nine last five years December January.

789
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 2: That's Burrow.

790
00:41:57,360 --> 00:41:59,880
Speaker 1: By the way, what's Burrow when his last eight starts

791
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:04,239
Speaker 1: eight and oh he is back? The Bills have not

792
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:09,480
Speaker 1: been good. McDermott's won for his one for four against

793
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:14,319
Speaker 1: the Bengals. The offense now for Buffalo, multiple giveaways in

794
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 1: four straight games. They can't stop the run, and the

795
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 1: Bengals three straight games rushing for over one hundred yards.

796
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 2: T Higgins is back.

797
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:29,880
Speaker 1: Joey Bosa out for Buffalo. Joe Burrow more time to

798
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:37,120
Speaker 1: throw upset take Cincinnati plus the six to beat Buffalo. Outright,

799
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:42,640
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow, T Higgins, Here they go thirty twenty eight.

800
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 2: Colt said Jaguars.

801
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 1: I'll take the Jaguars at home plus one and a half.

802
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:52,040
Speaker 1: They've won ten straight games against the Colts in Jayville.

803
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 1: They own him in Jacksonville, and they're on a three

804
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:56,959
Speaker 1: game winning streak, and they have the number one rush

805
00:42:57,040 --> 00:43:02,120
Speaker 1: defense that will force four the Colts to throw. The

806
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:06,920
Speaker 1: problem is Daniel Jones has a fibula fracture, not moving

807
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:10,520
Speaker 1: particularly well, and over the last couple of games he's

808
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 1: completing fifty seven percent of his throws. The offense feels

809
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 1: a little broken since Week nine.

810
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 2: These are two different teams.

811
00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:22,759
Speaker 1: Jacksonville very good, the Colts average at about twenty two

812
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 1: a game, one in three. Jaguars always good against the Colts.

813
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:33,960
Speaker 1: In this spot, win it thirty to twenty four. Dolphins

814
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:36,520
Speaker 1: and Jets. What am I doing? I'm taking the Jets

815
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:39,720
Speaker 1: as a home dog plus two and a half. Tyrod Taylor,

816
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:43,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with him. Ad Mitchell, that wide receiver

817
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:45,120
Speaker 1: that came over from the Colts. Do you see what

818
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:46,040
Speaker 1: he did last week?

819
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 2: Yeah?

820
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:52,279
Speaker 1: Ah, got some good numbers, eight catches. You see that

821
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:56,240
Speaker 1: top ten pass defense without Sauce Gardner.

822
00:43:56,840 --> 00:43:58,359
Speaker 2: Listen, the Jets are playing their butt off.

823
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:01,920
Speaker 1: They've won three to five, and they're scoring points, and

824
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:03,719
Speaker 1: they're at home and they're a dog. And did you

825
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:06,760
Speaker 1: watch Tua over the last month. I don't know what's wrong.

826
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 1: First of all, he's terrible in cold weather. No touchdowns

827
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:12,560
Speaker 1: for twoa and three of his last four games, leaves

828
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:17,760
Speaker 1: the NFL with fourteen interceptions. Tua someton's off. It's getting cold.

829
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:21,520
Speaker 1: The Jets are playing hard for Aaron Glenn. Not a

830
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:25,279
Speaker 1: great team playing hard. I take the Jets to win

831
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:28,279
Speaker 1: and cover twenty seven twenty four.

832
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:32,279
Speaker 2: Take him in the point. Texans aid, Chiefs, I have

833
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 2: to take the hook.

834
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 1: I'm taking the Texans plus the hook three and a

835
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:38,560
Speaker 1: half four game winning streak. Five of their six road

836
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:41,480
Speaker 1: games this season have been one score games. Number one

837
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 1: scoring defense held opponents in five of their last six

838
00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:46,920
Speaker 1: games under twenty points.

839
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:48,400
Speaker 2: Hunter and Will.

840
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:51,920
Speaker 1: Anderson against a beat up Kansas City offensive line that

841
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:54,840
Speaker 1: three of their five starters on the O line are injured,

842
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 1: including left tackle, guard, right tackle. I'm sorry, it's a

843
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 1: low scoring game. I've got to take the hook here.

844
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:04,839
Speaker 1: Chiefs have been out gained in three of their last

845
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:05,480
Speaker 1: four games.

846
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 2: By the way, in twelve games.

847
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 1: They have twenty two sacks Kansas City's twenty seventh, so CJ.

848
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:12,880
Speaker 1: Stroud gonna have a little extra time. I don't know

849
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:16,800
Speaker 1: who wins. I don't know who wins, but I'm taking

850
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 1: the points in the Hawk twenty four to twenty three

851
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:21,960
Speaker 1: Kansas City in the last second field goal. I am

852
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 1: taking Houston though three and a half point.

853
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:27,719
Speaker 2: Eagles at Chargers.

854
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:29,799
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take the Eagles minus two and a half

855
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:32,359
Speaker 1: is my only favorite. They're four and two on the road.

856
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:34,759
Speaker 1: They beat Kansas City at Bucks and Green Bay on

857
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:38,480
Speaker 1: the road. Number one red zone offense, number five offensive

858
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:43,040
Speaker 1: line and Saquon Barkley may not be running, but Jalen Hurts,

859
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:47,279
Speaker 1: for some reason, is often a better road quarterback. The

860
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:49,960
Speaker 1: Chargers have faced two teams with a winning record over

861
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 1: the last ten weeks. They got hammered by both of them,

862
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:58,000
Speaker 1: and the offensive line it's not good at all. So

863
00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:01,240
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts last two years on the road, I'm telling

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Speaker 1: you he's better away from Philly, and I think I

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Speaker 1: think I have maybe the best O line and unquestionably

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Speaker 1: the worst O line. I think it's close. I think

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Speaker 1: the crowd is sixty five thirty five. Philadelphia feels a

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Speaker 1: little bit like a home game. I'm gonna swallow the

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Speaker 1: two and a half. I'm gonna take Philly twenty four

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Speaker 1: to twenty jmacho reaction.

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Speaker 2: I don't take dogs.

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Speaker 1: I don't like to bet games like the Jags Colts,

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Speaker 1: which I find.

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Speaker 2: Hard to watch.

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Speaker 1: But I'm taking the underdog Bengals, I get the Jaguars.

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Speaker 2: I'm taking the Jets.

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Speaker 7: I know.

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Speaker 2: I love the Jets call.

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Speaker 6: By the way, you know what they're calling Tyrod Taylor,

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Speaker 6: ty god Taylor. He's seven to one against the spread

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Speaker 6: in his last eight starts. All he does is cover

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Speaker 6: and it is cold in New York this week. I

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Speaker 6: like that call, Buddy,