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Speaker 2: Well, my first under five was as a waiter and

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Speaker 1: I'm Lyn Hoffman and welcome to the Comedy Saved Me Podcast,

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Speaker 1: the podcast where we talk with comedians about their craft,

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Speaker 1: their inspirations, the power of their comedy, and the way

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Speaker 1: it helps all of us through challenging times. If you

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Speaker 1: like this podcast, you might want to check out our

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Speaker 1: Music Saved Me podcast that I also host, and you

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Speaker 1: can get that wherever you get your podcasts. Today, we're

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Speaker 1: so excited to welcome comedian Brett Ernst, one of the

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Speaker 1: great talents of our generation. And I mean that Brett

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Speaker 1: shares his journey from the football fields to the comedy

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Speaker 1: stages and I'm so psyched to have him here today. Brett,

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Comedy Save Me.

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Speaker 3: Thanks, thanks for having me.

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Speaker 1: It's great to have you now. I want to start

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Speaker 1: off because interestingly enough, there's so much in your background

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Speaker 1: and family that I want to get into. But you

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Speaker 1: were really into football, and I'm curious how did your

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Speaker 1: background in football influence that transition into comedy. And what

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Speaker 1: was your first experience like performing stand up? Do you remember?

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Speaker 3: Uh?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I remember the first time I got up.

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Speaker 2: But you know, football actually saved my life, man, because

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Speaker 2: when I was a kid, you know, I was all

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Speaker 2: over the place, and I mean I still got in trouble,

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Speaker 3: You know that that was the one thing that I

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Speaker 2: As far as taking that comedy experience into football experience

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Speaker 2: into comedy, and yeah, it helped a lot because you know,

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Speaker 2: when you come from an athletic background, you're okay with

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Speaker 2: getting your ass kicked, You're okay with losing. I mean,

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Speaker 2: you don't like it, but you've you've dealt with it.

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Speaker 2: That's the best way I could say it. And the

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Speaker 2: most important thing is you know how to be a man.

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Speaker 2: You know how to compete with your friends. And you know,

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Speaker 2: in comedy, a lot of people in entertainment feel that

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Speaker 2: they are competing with other people, which you're not, right,

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Speaker 3: You're bringing whatever you bring to the table.

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Speaker 2: I always compare comedy more to golf, where you're just

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Speaker 2: competing against yourself, you know, trying to outdo your last game.

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Speaker 2: And you know when when in sports you're friends with

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Speaker 2: and you know what I'm saying, and you just you

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Speaker 1: How did you end up on stage at a comedy

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Speaker 2: I just it's an odd story and it's kind of long,

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Speaker 2: jose Cosme I used to cut my hair and he's like, yo,

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Speaker 3: I did really well. I didn't bomb until like six

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Speaker 1: And how was that first night for you?

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Speaker 3: I just was laughing. My buddy filmed it.

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Speaker 3: How did you ex Oj Simpson joke? That's how far

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Speaker 2: But all you see is I'm like, yo, I go

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Speaker 1: You know, that's pretty. You've got thick skin. You must

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Speaker 1: I mean, Vince Vaughn's Wild West comedy show, Cobra Kai.

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Speaker 2: for different reasons. Yeah, I enjoyed working. I worked on

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Speaker 2: And the first under five, which you know, under five

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 1: Oh that's awesome.

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Speaker 3: But my first under five was as a waiter.

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Speaker 2: And then I'm not kidding you, I left that job

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Speaker 2: They recognized me from the comedy Store when I would

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Speaker 3: And then you're like yeah, yeah, and then you're like, so,

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Speaker 1: Got to be like at that moment, maybe he's soul crushing.

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Speaker 2: I was delivering pizzas man, and uh I was on

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Speaker 3: I'm like, God, I wanted to see it live, you know. Well,

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Speaker 1: Oh my god. But it just shows that you really

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: You could maybe go viral on something and then get

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Speaker 2: people to buy tickets to your show once. But to

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Speaker 1: It's so true.

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Speaker 3: There's no cutting corners because you can't fake it.

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Speaker 2: You can't fake it once you get out in front

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Speaker 2: of you know, the biggest crowds. I've done fifteen thousand

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Speaker 3: You're you, whatever your situation is, you just you as you.

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Speaker 2: You can't fake that. You just can't fake it. They'll

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Speaker 1: No, it's true. And your comedy is known for being

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Speaker 2: Well, everybody's original if you're talking about yourself and your

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Speaker 2: you just you just try and be as honest as possible.

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Speaker 2: You can never be fully honest. And I don't mean

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Speaker 3: I meant with some of the stories I tell because

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Speaker 1: Right and oh yeah, family, anonymity and stuff.

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Speaker 2: but you know there's everything's based in truth?

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Speaker 1: Is there? Is there when you say it's based in truth?

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Speaker 2: Sorry, now you know it's all for you to see, right,

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Speaker 1: But it's good advice. The quotes that you gave, whether

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Speaker 2: I'm not into this empowerment shit either, man, Like, you

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Speaker 2: You know, if you need to be told you're awesome

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Speaker 1: Well? Why do you do it? Why do you do comedy?

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I couldn't tell you.

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Speaker 1: Do you think it may have anything to do with

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Speaker 3: You know, like like I went to like.

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean, Like we like we like

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Speaker 2: No, you, you live, you only there's a great You

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Speaker 2: Talk that that to me in my head, that's how

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Speaker 3: But you you're the only one that can really you know,

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Speaker 2: And when you keep asking other people can I can,

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Speaker 3: I think perspective. A perspective is what's healing.

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Speaker 2: You know, I don't. I'm insecure. This is this, so's everybody.

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Speaker 2: We all love the same, we hurt the same, nobody's

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Speaker 3: I just you know, comics.

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Speaker 2: When we get together, it's it's very interesting and fun conversations.

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Speaker 2: We're all mentally ill and depressed, but at the same time, like,

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Speaker 2: And people hate honesty. They hate it, they hate it

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Speaker 1: Right? Right?

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Speaker 3: What do you think you're going to be twenty two forever?

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying? Or just worrying all the time?

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Speaker 2: To me, it's just do you think you're the only

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Speaker 2: And then to think that you're always going to look

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Speaker 2: for you, You're fucking delusional. You're a delusional person that don't

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Speaker 2: that's on the that's on you. So you know, comics

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Speaker 2: will give you that perspective that this is great, own it.

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Speaker 2: Who cares?

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Speaker 3: Laugh? Move on? You're dead soon or shut up?

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Speaker 1: Ye have you ever experienced or witness moments where comedy

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you'll get emails from people, but it's only people

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Speaker 2: And then you know, every once in a while it's

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Speaker 2: they'll hit you up and laugh. Ninety five percent of

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Speaker 2: of people that I went through it to said, look, dude,

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Speaker 2: I didn't think that was funny. But for most I

443
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Speaker 2: would say, again, I'm just throwing out a number. If

444
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Speaker 2: I'm doing a joke that you could tell is I've experienced,

445
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Speaker 2: because that's my rule of thumb. I only make fun

446
00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:04,000
Speaker 2: of my own tragedies, you know what I mean, I'm

447
00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:06,959
Speaker 2: not making fun of someone else's because that's where the

448
00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:08,440
Speaker 2: authenticity comes in.

449
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Speaker 3: Because I'm not a set up punch guy.

450
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Speaker 2: I try to be honest and taking my experiences and

451
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Speaker 2: you know, making light in them.

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Speaker 1: It's pretty amazing. I would say comedies right up there

453
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Speaker 1: with being a therapist. Almost a lot more fun, I'm

454
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Speaker 1: guessing than well.

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Speaker 3: No, there's two to that too.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you know, I don't know I've if you know,

457
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Speaker 2: when you're taking something that affected you and making light

458
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Speaker 2: of it, it's very therapeutic.

459
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Speaker 3: I guess I don't know.

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Speaker 2: That's the only thing I know, So I don't know

461
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Speaker 2: how it would be any other way.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's so helpful when you go into a show

463
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Speaker 1: and you hear somebody I was watching one of your

464
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Speaker 1: specials recently where you got into your dad, and it's like,

465
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Speaker 1: if there's anyone in the audience thinking to themselves, you know,

466
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Speaker 1: my goodness, he went through that growing up with his dad,

467
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Speaker 1: and how can I complain about my life for my problems,

468
00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:10,639
Speaker 1: you know? And then you're up there making fun and

469
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Speaker 1: finding comedy in that. That's pretty amazing.

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Speaker 2: And then everything's relative, right, So like, you know, there's

471
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Speaker 2: people that are worse off than me, there are people

472
00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:25,479
Speaker 2: that are better off than me. But the when you

473
00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:31,159
Speaker 2: learn the technique to deal with everything whatever comes your way. Right, So,

474
00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:35,400
Speaker 2: as an artist, if you need constant validation, you're you're

475
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Speaker 2: not going to succeed because most a lot of people

476
00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:42,879
Speaker 2: just won't be honest with you, and you're you know,

477
00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:46,280
Speaker 2: they say, the only person you can trust is yourself

478
00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:49,040
Speaker 2: in the process, and the only person you can blame

479
00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:53,600
Speaker 2: is yourself, right, like when you assess, because we know

480
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Speaker 2: we know ourselves better than anybody. It's that third phase

481
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Speaker 2: that we know right, but we also know where are

482
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Speaker 2: failures are and what we need to work harder on.

483
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Speaker 2: That's why I think as an artist self assessment because

484
00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:12,320
Speaker 2: it's especially stand ups, always a work in progress. And

485
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:15,160
Speaker 2: sometimes you'll run a joke or a premise by somebody

486
00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:17,760
Speaker 2: and then they'll be like, eugh, that that sounds awful,

487
00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:21,640
Speaker 2: But then when you execute it, then they're like, oh, Okay,

488
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Speaker 2: I get it because you know where you want to go.

489
00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:29,919
Speaker 2: So you know, I always take criticism and compliments the

490
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Speaker 2: same way.

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Speaker 1: If that makes sense, Yeah, totally. Did you have a well,

492
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Speaker 1: you know, if you can take criticism, you're way ahead

493
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Speaker 1: of the game in this industry.

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Speaker 2: Account criticism, uh, critical thinking, honesty, those things are the

495
00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:50,320
Speaker 2: only things that you can really go and sometimes you know, look,

496
00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:54,280
Speaker 2: because people mistake bad habits for who they are, if

497
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Speaker 2: that makes sense. You know, like I'm the king of procrastinator.

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Speaker 1: Who isn't It's awful?

499
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:03,840
Speaker 2: Like I still have to get my taxes going and

500
00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:06,840
Speaker 2: you know, I keep filing extensions which cost me more

501
00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:08,919
Speaker 2: money because it's like, oh I don't want to have

502
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:11,359
Speaker 2: to go you know, that type of stuff bothers me

503
00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:13,960
Speaker 2: and then but you know you have to buckle down

504
00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:14,560
Speaker 2: and get it done.

505
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:17,320
Speaker 3: But you know, you know your strengths and weaknesses.

506
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Speaker 1: So it's the curse of being creative. I think.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, man, it's I mean, you get two types and

508
00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:27,719
Speaker 2: stand up. You have the ocds and the adhds. You

509
00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:30,119
Speaker 2: have the people that have anxiety versus the people that

510
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Speaker 2: have depression.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's just.

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Speaker 1: I'm laughing, and I know I shouldn't be laughing, but

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Speaker 1: I totally understand what you're talking about. Did you have

514
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Speaker 1: a mentor or a mentor?

515
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and it was the Comedy Store in general, just

516
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:48,439
Speaker 2: being there at that time period when I was there,

517
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Speaker 2: being around comics that you know, I grew up watching,

518
00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:55,960
Speaker 2: and then guys that were ahead of me, guys below me.

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Speaker 2: So you you actually learned by osmosis and that o

520
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Speaker 2: R the Original room because the Comedy Store, I have

521
00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:05,920
Speaker 2: to explain it has three rooms as the main room,

522
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:09,160
Speaker 2: the original room, in the belly room, and the original

523
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Speaker 2: rooms my favorite room in the country.

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Speaker 3: Main room pays more. But the o R you've we

525
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Speaker 3: learned all the.

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Speaker 2: Comics that I came up with, like you know, some

527
00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:26,840
Speaker 2: of my best friends. We you learn different things by

528
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:29,960
Speaker 2: being forced into it, like how to reset a room,

529
00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:34,160
Speaker 2: how to follow uh like I you know, you follow

530
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Speaker 2: everybody from Chris Rock to Chappelle to Rogan, to BurrH

531
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Speaker 2: to Dice. You know you you you, and there's no

532
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:44,720
Speaker 2: MC so they bring you up. So then you got

533
00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:50,080
Speaker 2: to learn, just through repetition and failure how to get

534
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 2: the room after they just saw somebody that there were

535
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:55,760
Speaker 2: fans versus somebody they had no idea who they are,

536
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Speaker 2: you know what I mean? And totally that type of

537
00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:01,480
Speaker 2: stuff you you learn the comedy. So the Comedy Store

538
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Speaker 2: itself was probably my biggest mentor that's cool.

539
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Speaker 1: I think I think your failures are, like you said,

540
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Speaker 1: some of your biggest successes. You just don't know it

541
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Speaker 1: at the time, right, and you know if you can

542
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Speaker 1: make it through.

543
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Speaker 2: And what's funny is, like you when you were in it,

544
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:20,720
Speaker 2: and then when you're past it, you're always going back

545
00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:23,840
Speaker 2: to that time period because that's the most fun, even

546
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Speaker 2: though it was the most difficult.

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Speaker 4: You will be right back with more of the Comedy

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Speaker 4: Saved Me podcast. Welcome back to the Comedy Saved Me podcast.

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Speaker 1: It's so it is. It's very hard if you want

550
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Speaker 1: to pursue a career in general, in front of the

551
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Speaker 1: camera or on the stage, to have that sense of Okay,

552
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Speaker 1: I can do this. It's horrifying if you don't have

553
00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:00,200
Speaker 1: some type of maybe somebody came into your life at

554
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:02,280
Speaker 1: one point said, hey, well you just did was funny

555
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:05,720
Speaker 1: and that's all you needed to hear one time to

556
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 1: know that you were on the right track.

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Speaker 3: Well, it goes back to that validation thing, right.

558
00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:13,520
Speaker 2: So I can't tell you how many times I've been

559
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:16,920
Speaker 2: in conversations with other comics, like at the comedy store,

560
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:18,760
Speaker 2: we hang out in the hallway where till we go

561
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:22,480
Speaker 2: up and nobody even saw the guys set, And then

562
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:24,920
Speaker 2: somebody will get off stage will be like, yo, great set.

563
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Speaker 3: They didn't even watch it. Oh man, you know what

564
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Speaker 3: I mean.

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Speaker 2: That's when you learn that nobody really gets you know,

566
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:37,680
Speaker 2: people somehow create this narrative in their head that everybody's

567
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 2: talking about them, everybody cares about nobody cares, nobody's that

568
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:43,520
Speaker 2: invested in you.

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Speaker 3: That's why the self reliance thing.

570
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:50,600
Speaker 2: Is really important, and for younger artists to know that

571
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:56,040
Speaker 2: whatever art form they're in, it's all puberty, it's all this.

572
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Speaker 3: We all go through the same thing.

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Speaker 2: You know, you're not unique and you're failing, and you're

574
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 2: not unique in your successes.

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Speaker 3: Everything will come and go. It's the ebbs and flow

576
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Speaker 3: of it. When you're in it long enough, you're going

577
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Speaker 3: to be up.

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00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:13,719
Speaker 2: Your highs, your your low's way way more than your highs.

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Speaker 2: But it'll eventually go away, then come back, go away.

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Speaker 2: That's why if you just focus on what you love

581
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Speaker 2: to do and just keep doing it, if you can

582
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Speaker 2: still make a career at it, then you know you're

583
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Speaker 2: you're lucky.

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Speaker 1: Those are wise words. That was my next question is

585
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Speaker 1: what do you what do you tell young up and

586
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 1: coming artists? And that pretty much.

587
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's all part for the course and what makes

588
00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 2: stand up such a unique art form. I mean there's

589
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:42,520
Speaker 2: a few exceptions. Is we've been at every level. When

590
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:45,880
Speaker 2: you're a headliner and there's a kid m seeing or

591
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:49,840
Speaker 2: a person guest setting or middling and there, we've all

592
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:53,040
Speaker 2: been there. We none of us have skipped any steps.

593
00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:55,720
Speaker 2: We've all done open mics, we've all done the lotteries,

594
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:57,040
Speaker 2: we've all done the.

595
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Speaker 3: Bringer shows, everything.

596
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Speaker 2: So when when we're at at where we're at, and

597
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 2: the person that's new is where they're at.

598
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Speaker 3: What are you going to complain? You can't complain.

599
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Speaker 2: We've we've all done it, we've all we've all been there.

600
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Speaker 2: But I'm one of those those types too, where I'm

601
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Speaker 2: more into like breaking just because something bad might have

602
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:19,800
Speaker 2: happened to me.

603
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Speaker 3: I don't want to project that on someone else.

604
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 1: Right right, I mean you feel you want to, but

605
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Speaker 1: it's it's hard personally.

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Speaker 3: No, I honestly don't, because you look at it two ways.

607
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Speaker 2: It's like, you know, I remember watching people even a

608
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:38,040
Speaker 2: store one time, and I noticed that when people didn't

609
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:42,000
Speaker 2: hold the door for the next person, the one person

610
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Speaker 2: that started holding the door, and then the next person

611
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Speaker 2: would hold the door.

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Speaker 3: And that's kind of what you want to do.

613
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Speaker 2: You want to break cycles in that type of sense,

614
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:56,560
Speaker 2: because some of it's unnecessary, Like I've I've met comics

615
00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 2: without mentioning names that were like, hey, I went through it, so.

616
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:00,920
Speaker 3: Now I'm going to do to someone else.

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00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, Whereas like I don't see the purpose in that

618
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 2: because some of those some of it is just isn't

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Speaker 2: isn't cool?

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Speaker 1: You mean, like hazing the new comic.

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Speaker 2: Like Bump like, there's been times where, like you know,

622
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Speaker 2: especially like in Hollywood and New York, where you have

623
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Speaker 2: industry come down to see you for like a showcase

624
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 2: type set, so you set it up at the club.

625
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 2: Then all of a sudden, a major celebrity comes in,

626
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Speaker 2: and we use a term called bumping right where you

627
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Speaker 2: get bumped. So let's say I have a ten fifteen spot,

628
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Speaker 2: and I brought some executives down that wanted to see

629
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Speaker 2: my set that might be considering me for either late

630
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Speaker 2: night appearance, which doesn't really happen that much anymore, or

631
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Speaker 2: people that are developing shows, or even people that might

632
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Speaker 2: be like, hey, we might want you to be on

633
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 2: our show, like as an actor, and they're there and

634
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 2: it's called the showcase set, right, and then that person

635
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:05,360
Speaker 2: famous person comes in and says, I want to go

636
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Speaker 2: up now, and now they're going to do however long

637
00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 2: they're going to do, and the comic that had set

638
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 2: it up, you may not even get up till midnight,

639
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 2: and then that's bad. The industry sometimes doesn't want to

640
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:22,240
Speaker 2: be there that long, So I don't bump anyone.

641
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Speaker 3: Even if I can, I won't.

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00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 2: Do it, especially if they're I'll like if I show

643
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 2: up at a show and they're like, hey, can you

644
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Speaker 2: come down?

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Speaker 3: I'll wait till the end. You know, that type of

646
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 3: stuff I don't like.

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Speaker 2: I don't like to do because I've been there and

648
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Speaker 2: I didn't like how that how that worked out?

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Speaker 1: Well, you're also a groundbreaker. Besides being a nice guy,

650
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Speaker 1: You're Principal's office special was groundbreaking, I say because it

651
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 1: was the first self distributed am I saying that correctly

652
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Speaker 1: online special on YouTube?

653
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:58,760
Speaker 2: There were guys that like went viral with their specials,

654
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Speaker 2: but I was the first to do a YouTube special.

655
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Speaker 1: Yeah for free fully produced?

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00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:04,960
Speaker 3: Yeah?

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00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:06,640
Speaker 2: Yeah?

658
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:10,160
Speaker 1: And what what would inspire the approach? And how did

659
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Speaker 1: do you feel it impacted your career?

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Speaker 3: Yes?

661
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Speaker 2: And but you know, because you're the first doesn't mean

662
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:20,399
Speaker 2: you did it right. Like you know, take because again,

663
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 2: our community is pretty supportive.

664
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:27,640
Speaker 3: It's supportive in a way where like guys were.

665
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:30,440
Speaker 2: Like when when I told like Bill, Bill Burr and

666
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 2: ur Is Shafir what I was thinking of doing, and

667
00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:35,239
Speaker 2: then they're like, yeah, yeah, you should do that, you

668
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 2: know what I mean. And then when I did it,

669
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:40,279
Speaker 2: I had other guys say how did that work out

670
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:42,520
Speaker 2: for you? Other comics And then I'd be like, look,

671
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:45,720
Speaker 2: it worked out great this way, but I I messed

672
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:48,600
Speaker 2: up this way, and then if I were to do

673
00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:50,440
Speaker 2: it again, this is what I would do different. So

674
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:52,960
Speaker 2: when they did it for the first time, I was

675
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 2: given telling them what I did.

676
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 3: Wrong for them to you know, not do wrong. Does

677
00:34:58,120 --> 00:34:58,719
Speaker 3: that make sense?

678
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 1: And then yeah, yeah.

679
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 2: But it became a thing because I had put about

680
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 2: twenty thousand on my own money, and you know, I

681
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 2: had some friends lent me some money too to invest

682
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 2: in it, and in the process of shooting Principal's Office,

683
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 2: I was hoping Netflix would well. Prior to that, I

684
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 2: did a Comedy Central present, so everybody wanted to get

685
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:23,240
Speaker 2: their hour on Comedy Central.

686
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:26,239
Speaker 3: Let me take it back a little, and I had

687
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 3: a top five.

688
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:30,439
Speaker 2: Comedy Central would do this thing where they would air

689
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 2: all the half hours and hours that they produced for

690
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:35,920
Speaker 2: the year, and people would vote on it. Right, they

691
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 2: would call in. This is like two thousand and ten,

692
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 2: twenty eleven, and they would call in and say, this

693
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:46,560
Speaker 2: was our favorite. So there was like a hundred specials

694
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:48,239
Speaker 2: that year and I was in the top five, but

695
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:51,239
Speaker 2: it was only my half hour, so I wanted to

696
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:54,719
Speaker 2: get the hour, and every year after that, I was

697
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:56,799
Speaker 2: on the one yard line, but I would lose it

698
00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 2: to check because they would check is like we need

699
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:04,400
Speaker 2: we have enough white dudes. We're gonna do more females,

700
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 2: or we're gonna do this, and they started just checking

701
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 2: boxes and I was getting frustrated with it, so I

702
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:15,480
Speaker 2: was like, screw it, I'll shoot one myself and have

703
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:18,480
Speaker 2: Netflix was licensing at the time, but in the process

704
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:21,960
Speaker 2: of shooting it and editing it, Netflix changed the policy

705
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:23,640
Speaker 2: and said we're not going to license anymore.

706
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:24,480
Speaker 3: We're going to own it.

707
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 2: So now I was stuck with this twenty thousand dollars

708
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:30,759
Speaker 2: special because you get for me. I got to the

709
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:33,320
Speaker 2: point to where like, I don't need permission to exist,

710
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:38,279
Speaker 2: Right If I'm putting this work in and these people

711
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:41,759
Speaker 2: are like, no, he doesn't fit this criteria or that criteria,

712
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:44,480
Speaker 2: then I'm like, well then I'm just gonna do it myself.

713
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:46,799
Speaker 1: And I love that.

714
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 2: And it just the way it worked out was, you know,

715
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 2: I thought outside the box. I built out a website

716
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:58,400
Speaker 2: that you could watch it, and then I ebbed in

717
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 2: a YouTube player, so whatever views I got, you can

718
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:05,800
Speaker 2: monetize it on YouTube. Then I set it up where

719
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 2: if you wanted to buy it for five dollars, you could.

720
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 2: If you wanted to get a T shirt for twenty

721
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:14,680
Speaker 2: you get the special with it, or just give me

722
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 2: your email. You didn't have to do anything, and I

723
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 2: would tell them that I'd say, you just enjoy it,

724
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:21,759
Speaker 2: but if you wanted to stay in touch.

725
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:22,720
Speaker 3: I'll take your email.

726
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:26,239
Speaker 2: Because it was one of those things where I was

727
00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 2: in the nightclub business, where like if I if I

728
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:29,840
Speaker 2: don't get.

729
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 3: You at the door, I'm going to get you at

730
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:31,399
Speaker 3: the bar.

731
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:33,359
Speaker 2: So you wanted to get a bunch of, you know,

732
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:36,480
Speaker 2: as much fans as possible. Eventually, if they like it,

733
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:40,840
Speaker 2: they'll go buy a ticket. But truth be told, after

734
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 2: about three hundred thousand views, my average was like twenty

735
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 2: dollars and I ended up making a shit ton of

736
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:50,800
Speaker 2: money from it.

737
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 1: Wow.

738
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 2: And but I used the comedy community. I went on

739
00:37:57,600 --> 00:37:59,799
Speaker 2: Bill Burr, I went on all the podcasts that were

740
00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 2: my friends, and we promoted it because comics have always

741
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:08,240
Speaker 2: been on the forefront of everything from early Hollywood to radio,

742
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 2: to silent films to sitcoms. Dame Cook blew it up

743
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 2: with MySpace, you know, Rogan, Mark Marin, Tom Green, Adam Carolla,

744
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 2: with the podcasting, and then you know, now that's why

745
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 2: you're doing a podcast. Is comics started podcasting. We were

746
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 2: the first.

747
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 1: It's pretty awesome.

748
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:33,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, we've always been ahead of because we just love

749
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:36,920
Speaker 2: to create, and we can create funny and.

750
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:39,960
Speaker 1: Well, I know, I actually know why believe it or not?

751
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 1: Why because it's something I say with every time I

752
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:47,320
Speaker 1: talk to a comedian, and I don't try to repeat

753
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:50,360
Speaker 1: myself just to be heard. But it's true. You really

754
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 1: are the foundation of entertainment and the hardest working people

755
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 1: in entertainment. That's why you're so interchangeable. You can act,

756
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 1: you can do drama, you can do comedy, you can write,

757
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 1: you can perform on stage to a live audience or

758
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:08,839
Speaker 1: a camera. But you all work so hard on your

759
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:12,320
Speaker 1: own and you support each other, whereas like, that's comedy

760
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:16,359
Speaker 1: that's so different than acting or music, where you sort

761
00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:18,279
Speaker 1: of on your own. You don't have all these other

762
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:20,480
Speaker 1: people trying to lift you up and help you in

763
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:22,799
Speaker 1: the same industry, or at least it doesn't seem that

764
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:23,960
Speaker 1: way as much anymore.

765
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:27,400
Speaker 3: Well, we definitely are the blue collar of the entertainment business.

766
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:30,720
Speaker 2: And you're right in that fact that like to even

767
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:33,400
Speaker 2: get to a point to where you're even considering doing

768
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 2: something right. You have six, seven, sometimes ten years of

769
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:43,160
Speaker 2: shitty bar gigs, you know, living in a smaller area

770
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 2: moving to a bigger one, keeping your nights so open,

771
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:50,560
Speaker 2: waiting in line, Like we used to wait in line

772
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:52,840
Speaker 2: at the lab factory to do three minutes and we

773
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:56,799
Speaker 2: would get up at five am and you'd have a

774
00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:59,839
Speaker 2: friend that would sit there until about five pm until

775
00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:02,600
Speaker 2: they came out, and then we would do it in

776
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 2: shifts just to do three minutes to try and get

777
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:08,399
Speaker 2: a paid spot at a club. And we're doing that

778
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:12,680
Speaker 2: until for so many years. So yeah, you're right. We're

779
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:14,360
Speaker 2: always always.

780
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:19,440
Speaker 1: Moving, always and don't ever call in the morning early.

781
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 3: At least you catch just before we go to bed.

782
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 1: That's true, because then you're in the morning. How do

783
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:28,759
Speaker 1: you maintain that work life balance? It's so funny. As

784
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:31,640
Speaker 1: a woman, that's always the question. How are you a

785
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 1: mom and work full time and all that? But this

786
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:38,080
Speaker 1: is different. I mean, like we said, you're hard working,

787
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:41,919
Speaker 1: but there's your whole life outside of comedy, and there's

788
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:45,360
Speaker 1: a lot of demands with touring and acting and performing.

789
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:47,600
Speaker 1: What's your secret?

790
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 2: I don't know, Like, well, I don't act as much.

791
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:53,400
Speaker 2: I mean, I was very fortunate to get on the show.

792
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:58,239
Speaker 2: I just always focus on the traveling and the stand up.

793
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 2: But I you know, I I guess state keep working,

794
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:05,640
Speaker 2: like keep doing new material, like keep take you know,

795
00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:08,399
Speaker 2: coming up with stuff, and so each time you're coming

796
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 2: to a city, it's a different routine or try to

797
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:12,160
Speaker 2: be you know.

798
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 1: And take like new risks.

799
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:19,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, creatively, you know, and it's usually you know, it's

800
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:20,520
Speaker 2: it's goddess.

801
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:23,319
Speaker 3: I was who the heck was I talking to about this?

802
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:29,960
Speaker 2: Where I you deconstruct what where you're at to figure

803
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:33,399
Speaker 2: out the way you got there, but while you're getting there,

804
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:35,239
Speaker 2: you have no idea how you're getting there.

805
00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:37,360
Speaker 1: I think that's called hindsight.

806
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 3: Is that what it is?

807
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 1: Look, I just simpled it up for you really easy.

808
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:49,480
Speaker 3: Well, it's like you reverse engineer the process.

809
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:53,399
Speaker 2: And like when I was talking about, like you learn

810
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:57,279
Speaker 2: lessons with all right, I'll give you, uh, when you're

811
00:41:57,320 --> 00:42:01,280
Speaker 2: at the comedy store, say and you who like Dice

812
00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:02,839
Speaker 2: taught me something one night.

813
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:04,440
Speaker 3: I don't even know if he was teaching me.

814
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:07,840
Speaker 2: He wanted me to do this bit but then do

815
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:13,879
Speaker 2: a monologue leading up to the bit, and I was like, ugh,

816
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:14,879
Speaker 2: I had never done.

817
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:18,320
Speaker 1: You want to memorize it too, Just make it up, Oh.

818
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:19,280
Speaker 3: Make it up. Yeah.

819
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:21,879
Speaker 2: So I was in the main room and I used

820
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 2: to do this roller skating bit about this guy named

821
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:26,919
Speaker 2: Tony that was like thirty when we were ten.

822
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:27,960
Speaker 3: I don't know if you ever remember.

823
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:30,719
Speaker 2: There was that old dude at the roller rink, but

824
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:34,240
Speaker 2: he he was like, you gotta tell everybody who's Tony?

825
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 3: Where is he from?

826
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:39,880
Speaker 2: And because Dice was one of my idols growing up, I, uh,

827
00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 2: I did it. And I went up and just started

828
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:45,319
Speaker 2: talking about this guy. I'd never done it before. And

829
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:48,000
Speaker 2: this was in the main room. And I didn't realize

830
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:50,880
Speaker 2: that at the time because I would watch Dice in

831
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 2: the or he commits. But he was teaching me commitment

832
00:42:57,480 --> 00:43:00,799
Speaker 2: by putting me in that situation which I would never

833
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:03,920
Speaker 2: have been in, and you just I just committed to

834
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 2: it because I had no choice and and and the

835
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:11,440
Speaker 2: uncomfortability came to laughter and I and I kind of

836
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 2: I didn't realize it till like eight months later, that

837
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 2: that's what he does sometimes, Like he'll go on stage

838
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:19,320
Speaker 2: and just commit to things.

839
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:21,680
Speaker 3: He never waivers and commit.

840
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 2: And I learned commitment from that, and then you learn

841
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:27,759
Speaker 2: how to get a room back. One night, one of

842
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:30,920
Speaker 2: the more famous comics just said good night and he

843
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 2: was supposed to bring me up, so he ran off

844
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:34,799
Speaker 2: stage forgetting to bring me up.

845
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 1: Oh what did you do?

846
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:38,440
Speaker 2: Then I had to run up while the room was leaving,

847
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:40,279
Speaker 2: And then now you're like, hey, and you have to

848
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 2: get everybody back. You just you learn these different scenarios

849
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 2: and but you don't know you're learning it at the time.

850
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 2: So it's like twenty something years later you go back

851
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:55,839
Speaker 2: and say, this is how I learned to commit, this

852
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:58,920
Speaker 2: is how I learned how to reset, and you know,

853
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:01,160
Speaker 2: but in the process, you don't know what's happening.

854
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:06,400
Speaker 1: Can you share Brett a time that comedy helped you

855
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 1: through a tough situation?

856
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:09,760
Speaker 3: Uh?

857
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:14,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, the night the day my brother died. I went

858
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:19,839
Speaker 2: on stage that night, and uh, you know I didn't

859
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 2: I just I don't even think.

860
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:21,680
Speaker 3: I talked about it.

861
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:24,799
Speaker 2: I just went into do a material and I just

862
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:30,040
Speaker 2: kept getting up because you know, it's it's one of

863
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:33,480
Speaker 2: those things where like you just I just forced myself

864
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:36,640
Speaker 2: to get up that day, and you know that helped.

865
00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:38,560
Speaker 3: That helped a lot.

866
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:40,360
Speaker 2: It's like, you know, you don't feel like going to

867
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:43,640
Speaker 2: the gym, and you're like, I gotta go. You know,

868
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:48,240
Speaker 2: I just gotta go because that's what you learn from sports.

869
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 2: But you know, working out makes me feel better. I

870
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:54,640
Speaker 2: feel like I accomplished something, like I center my day

871
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:58,279
Speaker 2: around a gym, and then I center my.

872
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:01,600
Speaker 3: Meant health around my stand up.

873
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:06,000
Speaker 2: I guess because I do have that outlet, and I

874
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:10,080
Speaker 2: can see where it could be difficult for somebody who's

875
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:14,719
Speaker 2: going through something that doesn't have an outlet to be

876
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:17,560
Speaker 2: creative with it, if that makes sense totally.

877
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:20,400
Speaker 1: And do you see when you've done that for others

878
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:23,440
Speaker 1: when you're on stage, No, because.

879
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:27,480
Speaker 2: You you can't get the same feeling. I mean, you know,

880
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:30,759
Speaker 2: it's the difference between preparing a meal and somebody eating it.

881
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:34,799
Speaker 2: You know, there's the chefs that are like, hey, I

882
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:38,840
Speaker 2: just discovered this new spice or whatever, this new combination.

883
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:42,799
Speaker 2: The satisfaction is watching people eat it and being wow,

884
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 2: this is the best. This was really good, you know,

885
00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 2: But it would be more of trying to give a

886
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 2: one of the best meals possible, or you're the best

887
00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:58,880
Speaker 2: meal you can give to someone who hasn't eaten in

888
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 2: a while, and then yeah, so not only are you

889
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 2: feeding them that, but it's something really good for them, because.

890
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:11,239
Speaker 1: Did you know that was going to be a byproduct

891
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 1: of yours?

892
00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:13,600
Speaker 2: What I mean, you don't, You don't know. You still

893
00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 2: don't know. You just know that, you know. Some people

894
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:20,239
Speaker 2: will leave you a private message saying, hey, I went

895
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:24,720
Speaker 2: through this, and it's funny too when you're online and people,

896
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:31,000
Speaker 2: uh leave comments about things they don't understand. And then

897
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:33,239
Speaker 2: and then there's the ones that do get it, and

898
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:34,759
Speaker 2: then they hit you up and they're like, yo, this

899
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 2: was my story.

900
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:41,120
Speaker 3: And then then you know, you kind of have a.

901
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:43,360
Speaker 2: Shared experience with them, and those you try to tie,

902
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 2: you know, try and hit them back and say, yo,

903
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:48,400
Speaker 2: I'm glad that that worked for you. I mean, you know,

904
00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:52,720
Speaker 2: but that's not the I I know, it's everything sounds contradictory,

905
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:53,759
Speaker 2: but that's not the goal.

906
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 3: Man.

907
00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:58,960
Speaker 2: It's still like there's just there's something pleasing in taking

908
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 2: a thought and then constructing an idea. And then here's

909
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:05,440
Speaker 2: the crazy part. I don't even care if they laugh.

910
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:08,800
Speaker 2: I just want I just want the right people to laugh,

911
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:10,160
Speaker 2: and they will.

912
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:11,560
Speaker 3: Huh right.

913
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:15,440
Speaker 1: That's that's an interesting take. I don't think I've ever

914
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:16,000
Speaker 1: heard anyone.

915
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:18,840
Speaker 3: Well, no, there's a lot that way that are okay

916
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 3: with silence.

917
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:23,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I am horrible with that. By the way, my

918
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:26,399
Speaker 1: husband tells me that for someone who gets paid to talk,

919
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:27,959
Speaker 1: I give a lot of words away for free.

920
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:28,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, of course.

921
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 1: But looking back on your career, what do you hope

922
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:35,480
Speaker 1: that your legacy in comedy will be?

923
00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:37,680
Speaker 3: You know, I don't know.

924
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:40,080
Speaker 1: Is that a hard question?

925
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:41,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, because you don't know.

926
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:45,040
Speaker 2: I don't know, you just the only thing I would

927
00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:48,520
Speaker 2: want people to say about me is how hard I

928
00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:51,760
Speaker 2: work and how much integrity I have.

929
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:52,520
Speaker 3: And what I do.

930
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:56,160
Speaker 2: Like, you know, I don't want to to sit there

931
00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:58,640
Speaker 2: and go I want to have world peace. I don't

932
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:01,920
Speaker 2: you know, you don't know, there's many I want people

933
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:07,200
Speaker 2: to realize that everything will be okay. You know what

934
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:09,440
Speaker 2: I mean, when you leave, everything's gonna be fine. You

935
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:12,960
Speaker 2: have two choices. Just laugh at it and from me.

936
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:15,480
Speaker 2: You know, I'm Catholic. I believe in God. I believe

937
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 2: Jesus was who he was. But I give I always

938
00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:22,879
Speaker 2: compliment atheists. I now, I'm like, I don't know how

939
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:25,359
Speaker 2: you guys do it without God, you know what I mean?

940
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 3: Like, I give you props, but.

941
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:31,239
Speaker 2: At the end of the day, we're all gone. I mean,

942
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:35,160
Speaker 2: every every this, I mean, it's just everything goes like that.

943
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 2: And you know that because I was twenty five two

944
00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:41,560
Speaker 2: weeks ago and I got to assume I'll be seventy

945
00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:42,360
Speaker 2: five in a month.

946
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:45,439
Speaker 3: And what are you going to do?

947
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:49,200
Speaker 2: Everybody goes through things, So just laugh at it, because

948
00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:50,680
Speaker 2: that takes the.

949
00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:53,920
Speaker 3: Power away from you.

950
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:54,040
Speaker 2: Know.

951
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:56,440
Speaker 3: I don't want to say the devil or evil or negative.

952
00:48:57,080 --> 00:48:57,879
Speaker 3: Does that make sense?

953
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:02,200
Speaker 1: No, it's true. It keeps it all at bay.

954
00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:07,279
Speaker 2: Evil knows it can't win. It doesn't want to win.

955
00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:12,960
Speaker 2: It just wants to cause chaos and cause sorrow. And

956
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:15,120
Speaker 2: when you get caught up in that and you start

957
00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:16,719
Speaker 2: to make decisions based on.

958
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:20,000
Speaker 3: Desperation, everything will.

959
00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:24,000
Speaker 2: Everything always works out, and even if it doesn't, something

960
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:27,400
Speaker 2: else will, because you know, God gives by taking away.

961
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:29,919
Speaker 3: It takes something away, something else comes in.

962
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:36,799
Speaker 2: And when you're sad about things or think your tragedies

963
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:40,600
Speaker 2: are unique, then they're not. Everybody goes through something. Some

964
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:43,319
Speaker 2: are way more awful than others, some are way more

965
00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:44,359
Speaker 2: harder to laugh at.

966
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:48,080
Speaker 3: But just know all of us will be dead one day.

967
00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:51,560
Speaker 2: And I'm willing to bet when you're one hundred years

968
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:56,320
Speaker 2: old in bed, your last thoughts aren't going to be God.

969
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:59,840
Speaker 2: I wish that person didn't make fun of me. You know,

970
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:03,360
Speaker 2: you're going to be focusing on ice cream and past

971
00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:05,480
Speaker 2: family members, and I wish I had more time.

972
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:08,080
Speaker 3: I missed my mother making Sunday gravy.

973
00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:11,160
Speaker 2: You know, whatever those thoughts are, those are the ones

974
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:12,760
Speaker 2: that you're really going to think about.

975
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:15,600
Speaker 3: And that's why all this stuff in between. Just just

976
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:17,240
Speaker 3: laugh at it. You got no choice.

977
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:21,680
Speaker 1: Laugh and look for silver linings. That's that's MyD.

978
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:23,440
Speaker 2: Just like I said, if you know you're going to

979
00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:26,560
Speaker 2: be dead one day, why are you letting everything stress

980
00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:30,120
Speaker 2: you out? I mean, there's gonna be major events in

981
00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:33,960
Speaker 2: your life that you have no control over, but everything else,

982
00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:36,840
Speaker 2: you know, That's the beauty of comedy is we're laughing

983
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:41,520
Speaker 2: at life, right. And I remember at the end of

984
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:45,120
Speaker 2: my special, I said that you know when you because

985
00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:48,520
Speaker 2: I was, I got divorced. But that when I did

986
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:54,040
Speaker 2: the not Principal, the one after Principles of Domesticated Animal,

987
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:58,120
Speaker 2: it was my least favorite special because I was lying

988
00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:01,399
Speaker 2: the whole time. Because I wrote it as a married man,

989
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:05,879
Speaker 2: and I had made jokes about our marriage as kind

990
00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:08,799
Speaker 2: of like not a homage or whatever the word is,

991
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:10,160
Speaker 2: but in honor of that.

992
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:14,160
Speaker 1: And then I think the h is silent whatever.

993
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:14,480
Speaker 3: That thing's called.

994
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:18,439
Speaker 1: I've never heard anyone say that, I'm sorry, So I'm

995
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:20,520
Speaker 1: not that broud. You're not even trying to be funny,

996
00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:20,879
Speaker 1: and I'm.

997
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:22,800
Speaker 3: Stupid sometimes I'm sorry.

998
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:26,480
Speaker 2: So I said at the end that you know, whenever

999
00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:31,280
Speaker 2: we see romantic movies, it's either when we first met

1000
00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:35,839
Speaker 2: or when we're getting a divorce. You know, does usually,

1001
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:39,759
Speaker 2: but it's all the in between is where comics come in,

1002
00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:41,799
Speaker 2: and that's the stuff you need to laugh at.

1003
00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:46,680
Speaker 1: Yes, sir frett Ernst, thank you so much for your time.

1004
00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:49,759
Speaker 3: I know it was very wordy, but this is very early.

1005
00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:54,399
Speaker 1: For me right now, That's okay. I love wordy