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Speaker 1: Cool Zone Media. Welcome to it could happen here. It

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Speaker 1: is twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 2: A lie, it's twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 1: Robert has just pissed everybody off for the last three

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Speaker 1: minutes and fourteen seconds.

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Speaker 2: That listener, Sophie is gaslighting you. It is still December.

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Speaker 1: When they listen to this, it'll be twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 2: You don't know that.

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Speaker 1: I do know that I'm in charge. Okay, moving on,

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Speaker 1: We're gonna do some listener questions today, but I just

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Speaker 1: wanted to, you know, give a shout out to each

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Speaker 1: member of our team. We have Shrien Lanna Enis, we

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Speaker 1: have James Stout, we have Mio Wong, we have Garrison Davis,

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Speaker 1: and we have Big Bobby E.

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Speaker 2: That's right, that's right.

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Speaker 1: And we're going to answer some listener questions. Thank you

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Speaker 1: for those, to those who have submitted, anybody else want

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Speaker 1: to say anything before I start?

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Speaker 3: Besides Robert, thank you about half of those.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you need to have a chat with yourselves.

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Speaker 3: You know who you are.

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Speaker 2: I don't think they do. I don't think our listeners

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Speaker 2: are very self actualized.

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Speaker 3: All right, Sophie, take it away to each of you.

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Speaker 1: Any book recommendations for introduction to anarchist history and or theory.

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Speaker 2: If I may.

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Speaker 4: There's a book called Great Anarchists by Dog Section Press.

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Speaker 4: It's written by Ruth Kinner, who's been on the podcast.

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Speaker 4: It's got very short bios of different great anarchists. I

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Speaker 4: think you will enjoy it. I think you can get

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Speaker 4: the PDF for free online. I like to print them

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Speaker 4: out and put them in a little libraries a rich

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Speaker 4: people like to have in their neighborhoods and red pill them,

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Speaker 4: black pill them slowly that way. So yeah, Great Anarchists

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Speaker 4: by Dog Section Press from Dog Section Press by Ruth McKinnon.

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Speaker 5: My one is kind of it's slightly more specialized, but

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Speaker 5: Anarchism in Latin America is a great book. Also, the

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Speaker 5: cover is just gorgeous, so you'll have that around all

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Speaker 5: the time. But yeah, it's really good.

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Speaker 1: It's good.

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Speaker 5: Basically it goes country by countries through Latin America and

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Speaker 5: talk about allthr anarchist movements and it's great.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess it's not. It's sort of anarchists, I suppose.

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Speaker 3: But I've been doing a lot of union stuff recently,

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Speaker 3: so I've been thinking a lot about the concept of work.

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Speaker 3: So I've kind of returned to this really good book

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Speaker 3: Crime Think put out titled Work Very very basic, look

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Speaker 3: into sort of like anarchist almost like anti work theory.

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Speaker 3: It's just a nice book to interrogate how the concept

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Speaker 3: of like work in labor exists in your own head.

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Speaker 3: I've appreciated that one through the years.

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Speaker 1: Shrine or Robert, either of you.

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Speaker 6: I second all those answers. Amazing answers.

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Speaker 2: Everybody, Well, yeah, I cannot read, so I'm gonna second

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Speaker 3: Robert recommends the book. Isn't it like the No God's

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Speaker 3: No Master's a k Press one with the Chaos Star.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a lot of like old anarchists essays and

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Speaker 2: shit starting in like the eighteen hundreds, So if you're

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Speaker 1: That all right. Next question. I think this will be

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Speaker 1: research rate like an average episode, So we're talking like

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Speaker 1: not talking like a series such as Garrison's Stop Coop

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Speaker 1: City series, but like an average episode where you're talking

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean some episodes take months if but an

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Speaker 3: average episode, usually if I'm putting it together, it might

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Speaker 3: I'm thinking of my of my DeSantis fast Wave episodes.

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Speaker 3: Usually you'll have like maybe two days of more research

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Speaker 6: And I've made that mistake before. I would definitely have,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, James, me and Robert, anything you want to add.

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Speaker 2: I spent thirty five years preparing for the sheet podcasts. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it really depends on the episode. If it's an interviewer,

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Speaker 4: Second time this year Garrison's found themselves too old to

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Speaker 1: My next question, what conspiracy theory or unsolved mystery do

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Speaker 3: The dangerous question? First answer on air.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I just want to point out that Garrison

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Speaker 1: Yeah, are a Garrison danger Davis?

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Speaker 2: I don't believe in it. I fucking love bohemium growth stuff.

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Speaker 2: reading about that stuff. It's nonsense, but it's fun.

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Speaker 5: I mean, like I actually have Sorry, oh oh no,

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Speaker 5: go please, okay, okay, we'll we're doing We're doing We're

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Speaker 5: doing this oneing. Okay, if you if you were on

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Speaker 5: From from the late nineteen seventies until the early nineteen

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Speaker 5: Italian government is run by a rogue Masonic lodge called

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Speaker 5: the Peach Organization. God, you know, it's propaganda duet, very

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Speaker 5: various elements, Okay. So there's this thing going on here,

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Speaker 5: Is like in this building is like a NATO weapons

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Speaker 3: Red lasers. I think I see a red laser hovering

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Speaker 3: over this is all real. This was this.

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Speaker 2: Look, this is the Raises eighty three.

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Speaker 5: It's the thing.

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Speaker 1: Is the thing?

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Speaker 5: So every conspiracy theory on earth is real, but it

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Speaker 5: was only real from about nineteen seventy seven to nineteen

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Speaker 5: eighty three in Italy. Like all of them are there

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Speaker 5: at the same time, Like during the alder Moro assassination.

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Speaker 5: Like the two groups trying to free Elder Morro are

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Speaker 5: sure that the elder Moro dies. Is he's like a

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Speaker 5: now one, he's now insane Alex Jones conspiracy guy. Like

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Speaker 5: So like the people try to kill it, Like the

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Speaker 5: both the US Soviets, independently of each other, are both

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Speaker 2: Say what the East Germans?

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Speaker 3: I the fucking what's it called?

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Speaker 5: The bider Mainehoff group, the weird germano.

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Speaker 2: Alright, Meanwhile, I am I am a nine to eleven truther.

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Speaker 2: think I think they're just hooking you up to an AI.

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Speaker 2: It's it's a conn people.

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Speaker 1: Oh shit, Rudy Giuliani has to pay those uh Georgia

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Speaker 2: Funny. I feel like he's got that. Yeah, I feel

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Speaker 2: like he's got that hanging around. It will be good.

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Speaker 1: No, but he literally defamed the ship out of those lovely,

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Speaker 2: He I mean, defamation is like of what he does.

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Speaker 3: Okay, new favorite conspiracy theory. Panera Bread made the deadly

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Speaker 2: Whatever who cares wait genocide. That's why see, I fully

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Speaker 1: and we are back. What are you most excited to

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Speaker 2: What are we most excited to work on? Next year?

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Speaker 2: And I've been stockpiling a lot of and so I

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Speaker 2: I got some plans. I got some plans. I got

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Speaker 2: some plans.

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Speaker 3: Do we believe they or not? That's that's the real question.

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Speaker 2: I don't know that that's someone else's job to decide.

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Speaker 4: I can tell you from experience that the ATF will

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Speaker 4: visit your employer if you conclude instructions on how.

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Speaker 2: To make you in your work. It's legal.

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Speaker 1: Go ahead, and.

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Speaker 2: They'll still believe you.

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Speaker 1: Go ahead, Garrison.

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Speaker 3: I'm planning to attend a whole bunch of more kind

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Speaker 1: We're launching a weekly show with Jimmie Loftus starting in

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Speaker 2: authoritarian system governed effectively by the people who are presently

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Speaker 2: in power. Right you are seeing this kind of struggle

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Speaker 2: between the idea that we should have a system in

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Speaker 2: which people are allowed to pick their leaders and this

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Speaker 2: idea that, like the winners of the last twenty years

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Speaker 2: of capitalism and politics, should be able to solidify their

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Speaker 2: hold forever. So my big question is whether or not

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Speaker 2: we're going to come to see where we are right

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Speaker 2: now as the early stages of a civil conflict that's

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Speaker 2: going to get progressively more violent and have a progressively

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Speaker 2: higher body count. Or are we going to see this

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Speaker 2: as part of a global military and political struggle that

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Speaker 2: is going to kind of shake out the next hundred

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Speaker 2: years of kind of the political status quo on Earth,

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Speaker 2: and in a similar way to like World War Two,

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Speaker 2: you know, more or less laid out the next eighty

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Speaker 2: or ninety or something like that.

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Speaker 1: I've got two more questions.

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Speaker 2: Sounds good.

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Speaker 1: First, do you each of you have a favorite episode

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Speaker 1: you've put out?

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Speaker 2: We're all trying not to say the come episode the

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Speaker 2: same time.

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Speaker 1: I really have I have some really bad at all,

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Speaker 1: I really some bad news. That was the most I

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Speaker 1: downloaded episode of Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Everybody loves Look Everybody loves loves talking about come Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I'm with you, Sharine, with you.

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Speaker 2: Sorry, soph you've been out voted.

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Speaker 1: I'm never I'm never out voted. I have ultimate veto power.

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Speaker 4: Guys, struggle was talking about right here on the side disgusting.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's it's certainly hard to even pick one

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Speaker 3: episode just from this year. I mean, but it's the

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Speaker 3: com episode. Yeah, I will say the episode was fun

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Speaker 3: to put together. I we we really delved into the

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Speaker 3: the trenches there that few enough would you say it?

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Speaker 3: Would you say it really came together.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm going to answer these questions for each

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Speaker 1: of you with each of your work. Thank you, Thank

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Speaker 1: you because I'm a professional. Garrison skop Crop City were

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Speaker 1: because when just that I really tell I tell this

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Speaker 1: sticking out of the time. They're the most amazing storyteller.

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Speaker 1: You really feel like you are. You're able to visualize

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Speaker 1: everything going on with the words that they say, and

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Speaker 1: I think it's an important story that they've been on

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Speaker 1: top of since the beginning. I don't think anybody covers

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Speaker 1: labor issues in the way that Mia does, and I

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Speaker 1: think Mia has really done that in twenty twenty three

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Speaker 1: and we'll continue that in twenty twenty four in a

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Speaker 1: way that's not being covered in mainstream media. And I

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Speaker 1: think that those stories are extremely important and have made

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Speaker 1: a significant impact on labor and union culture and strikes

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Speaker 1: and fighting for what's right. James Man, it's like I

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Speaker 1: want to say, I want to say the work you

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Speaker 1: do at the Border, but I really love when you

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Speaker 1: talk about things that are silly, and I think they're

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Speaker 1: equally as important. But James James talking about sheep and

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Speaker 1: the joy that James had when he talked about sheep

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Speaker 1: is U is really special.

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Speaker 6: But also the work that.

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Speaker 1: You've done talking about the word MEMR and helping people

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Speaker 1: at the border has been extremely impactful to our listeners.

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Speaker 1: Shoe Shoe is a historical almanac to all things in

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Speaker 1: the Middle East and has I think educated not just

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Speaker 1: the audience but also all of us on things that

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Speaker 1: really everyone should know. And I think that she's brilliant

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Speaker 1: and I love you. She read Robert.

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Speaker 2: Hey Sophie, it's the cup episode, right, That's definitely.

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Speaker 1: Not the episode. But it's really hard to pick my

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Speaker 1: favorite Robert episode because I record with him like most days.

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Speaker 1: But I think that what Robert has done specifically within

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Speaker 1: Bastards this in twenty twenty three was really get on

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Speaker 1: top of the bastards we're all surviving right now, which

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Speaker 1: I think he did a really great job. Talking about

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Speaker 1: Andrew Tait, I think he did an incredible job getting

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Speaker 1: an episode out immediately about Stockton Rush, the guy who

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Speaker 1: killed those people under.

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Speaker 2: Really really the hero of the year, right, the guy

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Speaker 2: responsible for the great feel good story of twenty twenty three,

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Speaker 2: so much better of a time we need, we need.

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Speaker 2: I feel like we could solve most of the world's

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Speaker 2: problems with another eleven or so of those subs, and

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Speaker 2: that is true, and a similar socioeconomic group.

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Speaker 1: On board thom You're definitely not not wrong there.

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Speaker 2: I'd just like to say, you know, if you're wondering

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Speaker 2: why the New York Times in the Washington Post are

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Speaker 2: too big a cowards to do a come episode like

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Speaker 2: we did, you know there's an old quote. If you

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Speaker 2: want to know who rules, you ask who you can't

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Speaker 2: criticize all I'm saying. That's all I'm saying, Garrison. I

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Speaker 2: see you, I see you doubting me. But you know

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Speaker 2: it's true. You know it's true.

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Speaker 1: Anyways, it's our slash no fat.

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Speaker 2: All right, that's.

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Speaker 1: Should ask another question, But like, really, what's the what's

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Speaker 1: the point, what's the point we've climax?

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Speaker 2: Guys, sweet, it's oh my god, thank you, James. I

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Speaker 2: appreciate the teamwork, James. Someone had to.

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Speaker 1: Robert, but my my apologies to Ian for this night.

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Speaker 1: We have an edit. But yeah, anybody have any final thoughts, anything, anything, James,

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Speaker 1: Do you have anything you want to plug in terms

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Speaker 1: of donations or anything?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I do.

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Speaker 4: Actually, uh so we have a fundraiser for what we're

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Speaker 4: doing at the border. It would be really lovely if

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Speaker 4: you could give us some of your money because I

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Speaker 4: have spent all of the money that I have, uh

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Speaker 4: and some money that I don't have. It's go fund

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Speaker 4: TinyURL dot com slash Border aid g FM.

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Speaker 2: How do they spell cucumber. That's a good question because

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Speaker 2: that's c U M B A.

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Speaker 4: So like it's Spanish, but yeah, you can also tiny

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Speaker 4: rl slash border aid g f M, TinyURL dot com.

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Speaker 2: That's that's an easy one to remember.

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Speaker 1: Great, and we'll work tomorrow because this is a daily show.

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Speaker 4: Ye.

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