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Speaker 1: This is instant game Reaction, an immediate look back at

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Speaker 1: the Colt's latest game and trying to make it.

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Speaker 2: Ajustment of the ball is by gol Pepany catch it.

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Speaker 1: He rubbles across the dolde touchdowns right.

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Speaker 2: Airing out down Bill down the far sideline looking for

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Speaker 1: D Why Now, here's your host, JJ Stankovitz from Colts

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Speaker 2: What's up?

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Speaker 1: Everyone?

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Speaker 2: Welcome into another episode of Instant Reaction here on the

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Speaker 2: Colts Audio Network. I'm JJ Stankovitz, joined every week by

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Speaker 2: Colts Ring of Honor member Bill Brooks.

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Speaker 1: Bill.

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Speaker 2: Today we are breaking down the colts thirty eight to

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Speaker 2: twenty seven loss to the New Orleans Saints on Sunday

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Speaker 2: at Lucas Oil Stadium. This drops the Colts to three

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Speaker 2: and five on the season. And really, I think Bill,

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Speaker 2: the place we need to start is the play of

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Speaker 2: the Colts defensive backs in this game. It's impossible to

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Speaker 2: not specifically look at Rashid Shaheed, the fifty one yard

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Speaker 2: reception he had on third and thirteen with about three

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Speaker 2: minutes to go in the fourth quarter. That play effectively

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Speaker 2: seals the win for the Saints. And it was a

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Speaker 2: play on which the Colts pla had Tony Brown in

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Speaker 2: one on one coverage on the outside. Shaheed got by

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Speaker 2: him got the catch Tony Brown. In this game, Bill,

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Speaker 2: he started on the outside. Daryl Baker Junior did not

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Speaker 2: play in coverage and according to your Pro Football Focus,

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Speaker 2: Tony Brown has targeted six times, allowing six receptions for

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Speaker 2: one hundred and eighty yards and a touchdown. I think

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Speaker 2: when you just you think about the game that Brown

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Speaker 2: stand out. One is, yeah, he took responsibility after the

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Speaker 2: game for the plays that he gave up. But the

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Speaker 2: other thing that I don't think we can lose sight

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Speaker 2: of here, Bill, is the Colts only put there pressure

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Speaker 2: Derek Carr under pressure excuse me, four times on twenty

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Speaker 2: eight dropbacks. Per Pro Football Focus. What did you see

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Speaker 2: just watching it in real time? You know kind of

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Speaker 2: how New Orleans was able to get after Tony Brown

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Speaker 2: in this game and have some success there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, they came into the game, they were

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Speaker 3: going to attack whoever's going to be out there. I

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Speaker 3: think they made a conscious effort attack of course Tony

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Speaker 4: Being out not playing tonight.

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Speaker 3: So they just did a good job attack, especially with

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Speaker 3: getting out there and get on top of Tony Brown.

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Speaker 4: I know one play earlier, the early one he scored

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the second in the second quarter, yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and he just went out there and went went

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Speaker 3: right by him. He was no contest, is wide open.

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Speaker 3: And then also you had one the one you're talking about,

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Speaker 4: He made a nice he did a nice job.

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Speaker 3: He got up inside Tony Brown and ran right by

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Speaker 3: him and gutsy called by the Saints third and thirteen.

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Speaker 3: You know, usually that situation you probably think about, Okay,

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Speaker 3: if we don't, we'll punt the ball. Well, hopefully our

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Speaker 3: defense can hold the Colts. But if they went after it,

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Speaker 3: give him some credit. And they went him right after

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Speaker 4: And when you don't get pressure on.

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Speaker 4: You know he can he can be dangerous and you

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Speaker 3: And I think the Coats only got one sack on

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Speaker 2: So let's talk about that. The call on that third

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Speaker 2: They had Samson Ebcom line up in like a zero

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Speaker 2: playing particularly well coming into this game, but they played

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Speaker 2: a good game keeping Derek Carr clean and it allowed

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he took advantage of those opportunities as right, JJ,

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Speaker 3: And you know, the Forest makes a good point. You

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Speaker 3: And you know, when you don't get pressure on a

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Speaker 3: big plays. And that's what they did today against the Colts,

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Speaker 2: The Colts trying to make up for not having Juju

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Speaker 2: you saw Taysom Hill have a number of runs that well.

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Speaker 2: the NFL entering Week eight, at one hundred and nine

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Speaker 2: according to Pro Football Focus, and again the Colts only

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Speaker 2: that goes back to probably not having Grover Stewart, also

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Speaker 2: but just kind of a gut thing there that the Colts,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's tough to play replace Grover Stewart.

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Speaker 3: I think we've talked about that earlier before. How much

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Speaker 3: You know, DeForest might not get double team as much

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Speaker 3: up some passes out there, and not having those guys,

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Speaker 3: use those guys in different situations. When if you had Grover,

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Speaker 3: So when you have those guys out you know, you

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Speaker 4: Grover and Juju. Brents. Give Juju's credit, he was coming along.

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Speaker 3: Unfortunate injury, you know, and can't be out there, and hopefully,

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Speaker 3: But you definitely did miss those two today.

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Speaker 2: I think the thing that stinks, Bill is you think

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Speaker 2: nice to have him and Dallas Flowers out there right now,

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Speaker 2: where Dallas is playing at a high level when he

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Speaker 2: sustained that season ending injury in Week four. Juju since

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Speaker 4: And that's what they did. They made the big.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I thought, though, what especially in the

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Speaker 3: But we just didn't run the ball that much in

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Speaker 3: So I was a little shocked by that, not running

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Speaker 2: so it was relatively even. So I guess it wasn't like,

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Speaker 3: No, God, yeah, that's what I'm talking about, Like this,

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Speaker 3: I mean, I never look, I'm not a coach, and

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Speaker 4: Let's run the ball and see what can happen.

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Speaker 2: Let's just I mean, for a little bit of context here,

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Speaker 3: Oh, he's he's real good at designing plays and h

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Speaker 3: Shane does a tremendous job. It's and formed an offensive

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Speaker 2: To me, that you're kind of through the gauntlet of

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Speaker 2: that just shows in that gauntlet that you just faced

436
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Speaker 2: that hey, Shane Stiken's able to find some stuff. And again,

437
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Speaker 2: if you're zooming out on this and you're starting to

438
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Speaker 2: think about where this season can go where the future

439
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Speaker 2: of this franchise can go. You should feel really, really

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Speaker 2: good if you're a Colts fan about Shane Steiken as

441
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Speaker 2: your head coach and your play caller, because he's finding

442
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Speaker 2: answers and he is finding ways to put his players

443
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Speaker 2: in the best position to succeed against some of the

444
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Speaker 2: best defenses in the NFL. Full stop.

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Speaker 3: Oh by far, the arrow's pointing way up with the

446
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Speaker 3: looking at the offense and what this offense is right now,

447
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Speaker 3: and what Shane's doing right now, he and the whole

448
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Speaker 3: offensive staff, how he's putting players in position to make plays,

449
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Speaker 3: how he's helping these guys to be successful out there,

450
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Speaker 3: and you just are anticipating what's going to happen next.

451
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Speaker 3: You're anticipating what can happen in the next game when

452
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Speaker 3: he goes up against another team, once he goes up

453
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Speaker 3: against Carolina and those teams later on that we played

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Speaker 3: down the road. So I'm anticipating that there's going to

455
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Speaker 3: be something special out there that he's going to do

456
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Speaker 3: and it's going to be exciting. And I think most

457
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Speaker 3: of the fans feel that way. Is also that they're

458
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Speaker 3: they're excited for what this team can be and seeing

459
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Speaker 3: it right now as far as what the team is

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Speaker 3: doing out there in the football field. So I'm excited.

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Speaker 3: I look forward to things happening out in the football field.

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Speaker 3: I just wish, you know we're getting a return because

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Speaker 3: I think it's going to benefit this team in the

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Speaker 3: long run.

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Speaker 4: But I know the fans.

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Speaker 3: Want the returns to be wins, and hopefully we will

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Speaker 3: get some of those wins as we move down along

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Speaker 3: in the season. But for right now, you're still excited

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Speaker 3: about what can be and what actually the Coats are

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Speaker 3: doing right now on offense as far as how they're scoring,

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Speaker 3: how they're using their players, and how effective they're being

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Speaker 3: out there in the football field.

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Speaker 4: They put up the points. It's not that they don't

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Speaker 4: put a points.

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Speaker 3: They're putting up a lot of points out there in

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Speaker 3: the football field, and that's what you want to see

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Speaker 3: from your offense.

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Speaker 2: By the way, just to kind of put a bow

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Speaker 2: on this, the only team this year that the Colts

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Speaker 2: have not up to the average points per game allowed

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Speaker 2: has been Jacksonville. The Jaguars are allowing twenty point nine

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Speaker 2: points per game. That is the hot by the way,

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Speaker 2: that's the highest points per game total have faced all

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Speaker 2: year on defense, and the Colts scored thirteen points on offense.

485
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Speaker 2: In Week one. They had the buck touchdown on defense

486
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Speaker 2: and then twenty points in week two. But other than that,

487
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Speaker 2: the La Rams twenty point one points per game, Colt

488
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Speaker 2: scored twenty three, the Tennessee Titans nineteen point five points

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Speaker 2: per game. Colt scored twenty three, the Cleveland Browns nineteen

490
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Speaker 2: point two points per game. The Colts scored thirty eight.

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Speaker 2: The Houston Texans eighteen point eight points per game. The

492
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Speaker 2: Colt scored thirty one. The New Orleans Saints eighteen point

493
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Speaker 2: one point eighteen point one points per game. Cold scored

494
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Speaker 2: twenty seven. The Baltimore Ravens thirteen point nine points per game.

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Speaker 2: The Colts scored twenty two. So again you're just this

496
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Speaker 2: is this is a good offense with a good head coach.

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Speaker 2: That's kind of where I want to leave it. One

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Speaker 2: guy I want to highlight, two guys I want to

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Speaker 2: highlight on offense. Actually, every week we talk about Josh

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Speaker 2: Downs doing some good stuff, and this week's no different.

501
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Speaker 2: Nine targets, seven catches, seventy two yards bill. It almost

502
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Speaker 2: felt like every time the Colts lined up and empty

503
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Speaker 2: and didn't send pre snap motion. The ball was going

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Speaker 2: to Josh downs and he was getting an efficient gain

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Speaker 2: out of it. He just has such a good feel

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Speaker 2: for all, Right, this is the coverage, I know what

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Speaker 2: to do with it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean he understands football. I mean you just

509
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Speaker 3: look out. You look at the way he plays the

510
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Speaker 3: game from a slot or out wide, or he's doing

511
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Speaker 3: in motion. He has an understanding of what the defense

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Speaker 3: is trying to do. And for a young guy to

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Speaker 3: have that type of feel, have that understanding of defenses

514
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Speaker 3: out there in the football field, that says a lot

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Speaker 3: about that young man. Very very intelligent young man. And

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Speaker 3: I'm sure there are times when he gets fooled out there.

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Speaker 3: Everyone gets fooded once in a while out there on

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Speaker 3: the field when you think it's uh man and might

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Speaker 3: be zone.

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Speaker 4: Or they might do something a little different.

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Speaker 3: They might bracket you a different way than you expected

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Speaker 3: to be bracketed out there in the football field.

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Speaker 4: But for the most part, this.

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Speaker 3: Young man knows what he's doing out there in the

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Speaker 3: football field. He has a great feel for where to

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Speaker 3: be at the right spot at the right time, and

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Speaker 3: the quarterbacks are very comfortable with him, getting him the

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Speaker 3: ball in those spaces because you know what, when the

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Speaker 3: ball's thrown, they're always in the vicinity of where he

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Speaker 3: is at or where he's going to be, So he

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Speaker 3: understands where he needs to be, and a quarterback understands

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Speaker 3: where he's going to be. So that says a lot

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Speaker 3: about not just Josh downs, but what he's doing with

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Speaker 3: the quarterbacks and working with the quarterbacks and being on

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Speaker 3: the same page with the quarterbacks.

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Speaker 4: So that is very, very good to see him.

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Speaker 3: And like I said before, I think I said last week,

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Speaker 3: I'm excited to see what this young man can do

539
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Speaker 3: in his career because if he keeps on doing things

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Speaker 3: like that, you know what the sky's limit for the

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Speaker 3: young man.

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Speaker 2: The other guy I want to highlight here Drew Ogletree.

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Speaker 2: He's the Colt's top tight end right now. He led

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Speaker 2: the Colts in snaps at tight end. Again. I thought

545
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Speaker 2: he did some really good things in the run game,

546
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Speaker 2: and he had that thirty three yard touchdown where he

547
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Speaker 2: just worked back to the ball on four verts and

548
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Speaker 2: made a really nice catch in the back of the

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Speaker 2: end zone. He's having a really good year, Drew Ogletree.

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Speaker 2: And you know, if you look at just the raw

551
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Speaker 2: receiving numbers. You may kind of miss him, what he's

552
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:26,040
Speaker 2: only got eight receptions this year, but like it's coming

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Speaker 2: on for him, And I think you can sort of sense, maybe,

554
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Speaker 2: you know, even if it's not this year, that the

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Speaker 2: Colts are just they're building the kind of trust in

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Speaker 2: him that they would have had in him last year.

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Speaker 4: Yea.

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Speaker 2: And for a guy Bill who was on such an

559
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Speaker 2: encouraging trajectory in twenty twenty two before he tore his

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Speaker 2: ACL in training camp, for him to just come back

561
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Speaker 2: and jump right back onto that trajectory, Like, let's not

562
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Speaker 2: forget he is fourteen months removed from a torn ACL

563
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Speaker 2: and is just right back to playing at a level

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Speaker 2: that the Colts expected him to play at last year.

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Speaker 2: And now we're seeing it and that is really encouraging

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Speaker 2: for the rest of the season and then the you

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Speaker 2: know beyond for this Colts offense.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And I think last year JJ, and I'm sure I

570
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Speaker 3: could speak for some other people too that watched Drew

571
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Speaker 3: Ogletree practice and everyone last year thought, oh man, this

572
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Speaker 3: guy's going to be good. We can't wait to see

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Speaker 3: him out there in the football field. During the last season,

574
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Speaker 3: but unfortunately he got hurt, so I set him back

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Speaker 3: a little bit, and then, you know, not knowing how

576
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Speaker 3: he's going to come back from the injury, he's come back.

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Speaker 3: He attacked the rehab for an injury. He was ready

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Speaker 3: to go, showed he was ready in training camp, came back,

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Speaker 3: and now we're seeing what we saw last year from

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Speaker 3: him practicing at Westfield last year and then being ready

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Speaker 3: to go this year in practicing. And you know what

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Speaker 3: the play he made today in the end zone, it

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Speaker 3: was nice to play by Drew, and Drew is running

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Speaker 3: his route and then he recognized Gardner was scrambling in

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Speaker 3: the backfield there, and then he broke off his route

586
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Speaker 3: and just followed his scramble rules and got open in

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Speaker 3: the back of the end zone. Gardener saw him and

588
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Speaker 3: he made a nice catch, a catch that he had

589
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Speaker 3: to go down and go get. And you know, that

590
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Speaker 3: says a lot about young man, about how he wants

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Speaker 3: to be good in the National Football League, and he's

592
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Speaker 3: worked hard at it to be good in the National

593
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Speaker 3: Football League and he enjoys himself. And the thing I

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Speaker 3: like about Drew is he seemed like he always a

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Speaker 3: smile on his face.

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Speaker 4: He's just a happy young man.

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Speaker 3: He enjoys playing and he enjoys being here with the Coats,

598
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Speaker 3: but he also has a fierce competitiveness inside of him

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Speaker 3: that he wants to be real good. And he went

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Speaker 3: out there and he made a nice play and I

601
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Speaker 3: was happy for the young man.

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Speaker 4: And hopefully he can stay healthy.

603
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Speaker 3: And I think if he continues to grow from the

604
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Speaker 3: time he got here to where he is now and

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Speaker 3: continue that same growth, you know what, I think we

606
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:01,320
Speaker 3: can see a lot. I think we'll see a lot

607
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Speaker 3: of good things from Drogratree moving forward.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he might sneak up on some people nationally, but

609
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Speaker 2: here in Indie there's gonna be no. I mean, I

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Speaker 2: think we're we see it. We see we see you, Drew.

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Speaker 2: We see what you're doing out there. All right, Well

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Speaker 2: that's gonna do it for us here on this episode

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Speaker 2: of Instant Reaction here on the Colts Audio Network. We'll

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Speaker 2: have plenty of shows coming to you this week on

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Speaker 2: the Colts Audio Network wherever you get your podcasts, and

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Speaker 2: also on YouTube for the Official Cults podcast that'll be

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Speaker 2: out Tuesday and Thursday. Bill and I will be back,

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Speaker 2: probably not Sunday night next week, probably getting back from

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Speaker 2: Carolina a little late. Remember that's a four oh five

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Speaker 2: pm Eastern game, So more than likely Bill and I

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Speaker 2: will be taping Instant Reaction Monday morning in person, probably

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Speaker 2: not over zoom, probably be in the radio studio at

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Speaker 2: the Colts facility. And then good, hey, we got one

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Speaker 2: more of these shows left until Casey Valley takes over

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Speaker 2: for an episode when and I'll be somewhere over the

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Speaker 2: Atlantic Ocean while y'all are taping that, coming back to Germany. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: It's always fun talking to you Bill here on the

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Speaker 2: Colts Audio Network, getting us wrapped up with the Colts

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Speaker 2: and the Saints. We will be back again next week

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Speaker 2: here in the Colts Audio Network recapping the Colts and

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Speaker 2: Panthers in week nine. For Bill Brooks, I'm JJ Stankoviitz.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for listening. Talk to you next

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Speaker 2: week after the Colts play the Panthers.