WEBVTT - Pandemic of the Unvaccinated 0:00:11.920 --> 0:00:14.600 Good morning, peeps, and welcome to WIKA F Daily with 0:00:14.720 --> 0:00:19.600 Meet your Girl Danielle Moody, recording live from the Brooklyn Bunker. 0:00:19.640 --> 0:00:22.920 We'd be moving around a lot these days, from studio 0:00:23.120 --> 0:00:27.320 to home and back again. You know, folks, I get 0:00:27.400 --> 0:00:31.760 to a place often where I am just wanting to 0:00:31.800 --> 0:00:34.000 throw out my hands, where I'm wanting to be like, 0:00:34.120 --> 0:00:37.920 I'm just done. I'm done in general, right because every 0:00:37.920 --> 0:00:40.360 time that I open up the news, every time that 0:00:40.440 --> 0:00:43.680 I look, you know, at the papers, every time that 0:00:43.760 --> 0:00:48.600 I go into Twitter, it just feels like I'm just dripping, 0:00:49.440 --> 0:00:56.040 dripping in like sewage and acid and just toxicity. It's 0:00:56.080 --> 0:00:59.080 no wonder why people opt out of social media after 0:00:59.120 --> 0:01:01.920 a while. It's no wonder why there is like extreme 0:01:02.160 --> 0:01:04.760 burnout from the news and people are just like after 0:01:04.760 --> 0:01:08.160 twenty twenty, they don't even want to turn on. But 0:01:08.200 --> 0:01:10.640 the reality is is that if you don't if you 0:01:10.680 --> 0:01:15.800 don't check in right, then you can't have a voice. 0:01:16.400 --> 0:01:19.680 Then you don't know what's going on. So here are 0:01:19.720 --> 0:01:21.520 some things that I want to bring to your attention 0:01:21.520 --> 0:01:25.080 that are happening right now that just shouldn't be. And 0:01:25.120 --> 0:01:28.160 I'm going to continue to talk about COVID on this show, 0:01:28.160 --> 0:01:31.080 because we're still in a pandemic, and yet the majority 0:01:31.080 --> 0:01:34.080 of the country doesn't think so, except for the fact, 0:01:34.560 --> 0:01:39.759 folks that this week, the United States has more positive 0:01:39.800 --> 0:01:44.320 COVID cases than any other country in the world. How 0:01:44.440 --> 0:01:48.160 the fuck is that happening when we literally have more 0:01:48.280 --> 0:01:53.160 vaccines than every other country in the world. Do you 0:01:53.160 --> 0:01:56.040 know why that is? Because we're the ones creating the vaccines. 0:01:56.320 --> 0:01:58.960 They're being created in the United States, and the federal 0:01:59.040 --> 0:02:05.480 government has purchased all of them, essentially so that every 0:02:05.480 --> 0:02:09.320 American can get their two shots and a booster. And 0:02:09.440 --> 0:02:14.720 yet we're still seeing reports, like I said yesterday, of 0:02:15.280 --> 0:02:19.040 hospitals having to close down emergency rooms. Of the Arkansas 0:02:19.080 --> 0:02:22.520 governor now after his fucking bullshit getting on the airwaves 0:02:22.520 --> 0:02:26.280 and telling people the hospitals are at capacity. Yeah, motherfucker. 0:02:26.360 --> 0:02:28.080 What did you think was going to happen when you 0:02:28.080 --> 0:02:30.840 didn't have a mask mandate in place? What did you 0:02:30.880 --> 0:02:33.240 think was going to happen when you were telling folks 0:02:33.360 --> 0:02:35.760 that they shouldn't send their kids to schools with masking, 0:02:36.000 --> 0:02:39.320 telling school boards and city councils that they can't have 0:02:39.400 --> 0:02:43.640 mask mandates. And then you in these Red states have 0:02:43.760 --> 0:02:47.679 the lowest vaccination numbers because you all believe the Trump bullshit. 0:02:48.639 --> 0:02:51.280 And you know what pisses me off even more is 0:02:51.280 --> 0:02:54.240 that when that fucking orange piece of shit had one 0:02:54.240 --> 0:02:56.760 of his hate rallies recently and he says, oh, you 0:02:56.760 --> 0:02:59.040 know you should, folks, you should get the vaccine, he 0:02:59.080 --> 0:03:03.200 was booed by his own fucking sycophants. That's how far 0:03:03.360 --> 0:03:08.320 gone these people are. And so I continue to say, look, 0:03:08.720 --> 0:03:12.799 you don't want to get the vaccine, right, what ambulances 0:03:13.040 --> 0:03:16.200 should be asking, folks is and when they're headed to 0:03:16.240 --> 0:03:19.280 your house to go get you anti vaxer, to go 0:03:19.320 --> 0:03:21.840 bring you to the emergency room to ask the question 0:03:23.040 --> 0:03:26.800 were you vaccinated? Let me see your vaccin vaccination card. 0:03:27.040 --> 0:03:29.880 Oh you weren't vaccinated. Well, there is no room at 0:03:29.880 --> 0:03:33.960 the end for you, because what needs to start happening 0:03:34.080 --> 0:03:37.760 is that we are going to keep our beds in 0:03:37.800 --> 0:03:41.320 this hospital for people in actual need. You didn't need 0:03:41.360 --> 0:03:44.640 the vaccine, you didn't need a mask. Well, guess what, 0:03:45.040 --> 0:03:48.080 you don't need a hospital bed either, because the same 0:03:48.120 --> 0:03:52.800 people that we're telling you to prevent your severe illness 0:03:52.960 --> 0:03:56.480 and death, who you didn't want to believe because you 0:03:56.520 --> 0:03:59.600 think that your Facebook and YouTube education is greater than 0:03:59.640 --> 0:04:02.880 their seven, eight, nine, ten years of schooling in the 0:04:02.880 --> 0:04:09.080 medical industry, then fucking google your way out of your symptoms. 0:04:09.600 --> 0:04:14.240 Once you catch COVID, don't now flood into hospitals begging 0:04:14.360 --> 0:04:19.279 for help. Fuck you. And that's really what I want 0:04:19.360 --> 0:04:22.599 nurses and doctors and health administrators to start saying, being like, no, 0:04:23.320 --> 0:04:25.680 if you haven't been vaccinated, you don't get to come 0:04:25.680 --> 0:04:31.160 to the hospital for what for the imaginary hoax of 0:04:31.240 --> 0:04:33.840 medicine that we're going to be sticking into your arm 0:04:33.880 --> 0:04:36.839 that you don't know anything about, and it's microchips and this, 0:04:36.960 --> 0:04:38.839 that and the other thing. Why do you believe in 0:04:38.880 --> 0:04:41.920 the hospital when you were on your deathbed, but you 0:04:41.920 --> 0:04:44.640 didn't believe in those same doctors when they were trying 0:04:44.640 --> 0:04:50.200 to save your life. I don't see why you should 0:04:50.200 --> 0:04:53.520 receive care. And people may say, oh my god, Danielle, 0:04:53.520 --> 0:04:55.200 that is so harsh. We don't want people to die, 0:04:55.240 --> 0:04:58.479 and I say, fuck them. You want to roll the dice, 0:04:59.160 --> 0:05:05.360 roll them. Our country just feels so fucked right now 0:05:05.560 --> 0:05:09.839 that I don't really know how you unfuck it. Because 0:05:09.920 --> 0:05:11.479 let me tell you something, we should not be in 0:05:11.520 --> 0:05:14.080 a place where we are trying to hold hands with 0:05:14.120 --> 0:05:17.080 these people, we're, oh, you know, let's bring them over 0:05:17.120 --> 0:05:21.960 to our side. Fuck that for what if you weren't 0:05:21.960 --> 0:05:24.240 going to be able to convince these people after four 0:05:24.320 --> 0:05:29.080 years of living under Donald Trump, right, and now their messiah. 0:05:29.560 --> 0:05:32.960 They don't even listen to their messiah after he says 0:05:32.960 --> 0:05:36.400 that he's been vaccinated, right, and that they should get 0:05:36.440 --> 0:05:39.159 vaccinated too. And as soon as they started to boo, 0:05:39.320 --> 0:05:42.800 this man just shriveled up like the fucking turd that 0:05:42.880 --> 0:05:46.920 he is. Okay, okay, okay, whatever it is that you want, 0:05:46.960 --> 0:05:50.760 Just still love me, Still give me money so that 0:05:50.800 --> 0:05:53.960 I can pay all of my lawyer fees for all 0:05:54.000 --> 0:05:56.240 of the court cases that are being waged against me 0:05:56.279 --> 0:06:01.200 because I'm a fucking criminal. And we continue to talk 0:06:01.200 --> 0:06:03.720 about these people as if like, oh, they know not 0:06:03.760 --> 0:06:06.920 what they do. Yes, they do. They know exactly what 0:06:06.960 --> 0:06:12.920 they are doing. You know, right now you have de 0:06:13.040 --> 0:06:16.200 Satan and these other red state governors that are following 0:06:16.200 --> 0:06:23.359 in his footsteps with their big footing on municipalities and 0:06:23.560 --> 0:06:27.120 school districts for wanting to keep people safe. Thousands of 0:06:27.200 --> 0:06:33.800 children have already been infected with COVID nineteen. Many are 0:06:33.839 --> 0:06:41.320 going to die and are dying right now. And what 0:06:41.480 --> 0:06:46.200 is Joe Biden doing about it? Because I can recall 0:06:46.360 --> 0:06:48.920 that when Donald Trump was President of the United States, 0:06:49.040 --> 0:06:51.880 he threatened blue states left and right. Oh, I'm not 0:06:51.880 --> 0:06:54.119 going to give you any funding unless you kiss my ass. 0:06:54.720 --> 0:06:56.560 I'm not gonna help you. I'm not gonna send FEMA, 0:06:56.720 --> 0:06:59.839 I'm not going to give you aid because I don't 0:06:59.880 --> 0:07:03.320 like you. Well, how about we turn around and use 0:07:03.440 --> 0:07:08.000 that same type of energy for the greater good, which 0:07:08.080 --> 0:07:13.200 is Hey Florida, Hey Texas, Hey Tennessee, Hey Arkansas, Mississippi, 0:07:13.440 --> 0:07:16.600 and the rest of y'all. If you do not roll 0:07:16.680 --> 0:07:20.960 back your anti mask mandates, you will not be receiving 0:07:21.040 --> 0:07:26.360 any federal funding on anything. Why don't you start playing 0:07:26.400 --> 0:07:29.080 their fucking game and playing like you want to win, 0:07:32.480 --> 0:07:38.040 playing like you have some oomph behind you, because at 0:07:38.040 --> 0:07:43.080 the end of the day, they don't. Right, it's all 0:07:43.120 --> 0:07:46.160 handholding and stroking and playing to the bottom as opposed 0:07:46.200 --> 0:07:49.600 to playing to the top. It's all doing the middle 0:07:49.640 --> 0:07:51.440 of the road bullshit. And I'm telling you we are 0:07:51.440 --> 0:07:58.320 not living in times anymore of neutrality. Like I don't 0:07:58.320 --> 0:08:01.280 even like the fact that nalists are using the term 0:08:01.360 --> 0:08:05.840 anti masker. Just call them pro death, Just say that 0:08:05.920 --> 0:08:09.320 they are the pro death party. They are pro death 0:08:09.360 --> 0:08:16.320 and pro COVID pro pandemic. That's it. Because you set 0:08:16.360 --> 0:08:18.280 it up as if there are some type of fucking debate, 0:08:18.320 --> 0:08:23.920 and there isn't a debate, and then you have these 0:08:23.960 --> 0:08:26.440 assholes that are getting on these social media platforms and 0:08:26.480 --> 0:08:28.480 talking about, well, the vaccine doesn't work because people are 0:08:28.520 --> 0:08:32.840 still catching COVID. But guess what vaccines do work because 0:08:32.840 --> 0:08:36.679 the people that are catching COVID with breakthrough cases aren't 0:08:36.760 --> 0:08:41.560 dying and they aren't falling severely ill, and then they 0:08:41.559 --> 0:08:43.679 don't have to worry about the Russian roulette that we 0:08:43.679 --> 0:08:46.440 were playing in twenty twenty because they did what they 0:08:46.480 --> 0:08:48.959 needed to do in order to cover themselves and keep 0:08:49.000 --> 0:08:57.960 themselves safe. I believe wholeheartedly that had Donald Trump never existed, 0:08:59.440 --> 0:09:01.880 we wouldn't ever be in this place right now in 0:09:02.000 --> 0:09:06.720 terms of this division around vaccines, in this division around 0:09:06.760 --> 0:09:10.760 the pandemic, that things could have been orderly, they could 0:09:10.800 --> 0:09:13.680 have been thoughtful, and that when the vaccines were rolled 0:09:13.679 --> 0:09:16.240 out it would have been a praise God's celebration across 0:09:16.280 --> 0:09:21.280 America because we made it finally but instead we have 0:09:21.320 --> 0:09:23.600 the highest numbers of any place in the world, and 0:09:23.679 --> 0:09:26.000 yet we have the most vaccines. If that doesn't look 0:09:26.040 --> 0:09:29.280 like fucking global privilege, then I don't know what it is, 0:09:30.120 --> 0:09:36.080 because that's some Western privilege bullshit. Because there are people 0:09:36.120 --> 0:09:38.480 in other countries that are dying in the streets because 0:09:38.480 --> 0:09:41.360 they don't have the vaccine. They don't have the ability 0:09:41.559 --> 0:09:44.040 to get the vaccine. Meanwhile, you can get it at 0:09:44.120 --> 0:09:52.240 any fucking CBS and drug store across the country. And 0:09:52.360 --> 0:09:57.120 people are still flooding into hospitals, still filling up ICUs. 0:09:58.640 --> 0:10:01.640 There are makeshift bed and tense being put up like 0:10:01.720 --> 0:10:05.200 it is twenty twenty, when we had nothing other than 0:10:05.240 --> 0:10:08.440 the mask and social distancing and washing your fucking hands 0:10:08.480 --> 0:10:11.920 to combat this virus. And now once you have something 0:10:11.960 --> 0:10:16.320 that says, look, we won't die going to the grocery store. Look, 0:10:16.360 --> 0:10:18.640 you can share a meal with a friend again. You 0:10:18.640 --> 0:10:21.480 can move your life from outside of zoom. For these 0:10:21.559 --> 0:10:24.040 people that wanted to open up the economy so quickly, 0:10:24.320 --> 0:10:26.280 you would think that they would be the biggest propontus 0:10:26.320 --> 0:10:27.920 to get the vaccine, so we can go back to 0:10:28.000 --> 0:10:31.200 buck to normal. But no, let us march through the 0:10:31.240 --> 0:10:38.120 Greek alphabet instead, because folks, while we want to roll 0:10:38.160 --> 0:10:40.280 our eyes at these people, and trust me, I do, 0:10:40.760 --> 0:10:43.240 the reality is is that the longer that this virus 0:10:43.280 --> 0:10:45.800 stays around, and this is what doctor Jonathan Metzel tells 0:10:45.840 --> 0:10:48.199 us every fucking week, and later on in the show, 0:10:48.360 --> 0:10:52.720 doctor Marcella Nunez Smith, the head of the White House 0:10:52.840 --> 0:10:58.480 COVID Task Force, will say once again that the longer 0:10:58.520 --> 0:11:01.920 that this virus stays in the air, the longer the 0:11:02.040 --> 0:11:04.920 amount of time that it's given to continue to mutate 0:11:05.040 --> 0:11:09.000 on top of itself. And as Jonathan said yesterday, the 0:11:09.120 --> 0:11:16.280 virus is mutating thousands of times every minute, right waiting 0:11:16.320 --> 0:11:20.160 for that next silver bullet that works around all of 0:11:20.200 --> 0:11:25.360 the vaccines. And then we're truly fucked because we would 0:11:25.360 --> 0:11:29.560 have had an opportunity once vaccinations were rolling out at 0:11:29.559 --> 0:11:32.280 the beginning of the year to really squash this and 0:11:32.360 --> 0:11:35.040 we didn't. And that's what we were in a race 0:11:35.080 --> 0:11:43.680 against time for, because scientists know how viruses work, and 0:11:43.880 --> 0:11:46.840 this one is an anomaly on a lot of fronts, 0:11:47.280 --> 0:11:53.120 but they know the more virus, the more likely it mutates, 0:11:53.160 --> 0:11:56.120 and our inability to catch the mutation before it is 0:11:56.200 --> 0:12:02.480 now completely in total, making the vaccines that we do 0:12:02.559 --> 0:12:07.600 have ineffective. I don't want to get to that place. 0:12:07.880 --> 0:12:10.040 And I know that you folks listening to this short 0:12:10.040 --> 0:12:12.640 as fuck don't want to get to that place. But 0:12:12.679 --> 0:12:14.319 I got to tell you that that's where I believe 0:12:14.360 --> 0:12:18.160 we are headed. I think that we are headed for 0:12:18.240 --> 0:12:26.080 a very long hard fall and winter again. And I 0:12:26.080 --> 0:12:31.679 am continually worry about the Petrie dish that we call 0:12:31.720 --> 0:12:37.720 our school systems, particularly in these states with governors that 0:12:37.840 --> 0:12:43.240 have turned themselves into executioners. You know, I just every 0:12:43.320 --> 0:12:45.680 day I say to myself, how do we get here? 0:12:45.880 --> 0:12:50.600 Why are we here? And every day it comes back 0:12:50.640 --> 0:12:57.480 to the bullshit from the Republican Party. That's how we 0:12:57.559 --> 0:13:02.400 got here. There lies the hatred, their cruelty, those are 0:13:02.440 --> 0:13:08.280 their values. That's how we got here. Coming up next, folks, 0:13:08.400 --> 0:13:12.880 is my conversation with doctor Marcella Nuniez Smith, the head 0:13:13.280 --> 0:13:17.440 of the White House Task Force on COVID nineteen. She's 0:13:17.520 --> 0:13:22.800 going to talk about the vaccines and the Fiser FDA approval, 0:13:23.200 --> 0:13:27.480 the Maderna pending approval, and where we go from here. 0:13:29.320 --> 0:13:32.679 Doctor Marcella Nuniez Smith, thank you so much for rejoining 0:13:32.679 --> 0:13:35.720 woke A f to bring us up to date on 0:13:35.760 --> 0:13:40.160 where we are with the vaccinations. This week, Fiser was 0:13:40.240 --> 0:13:45.360 just FDA approved for their vaccinations, and I heard earlier 0:13:45.400 --> 0:13:49.960 today that Maderna has filed for their full FDA approval 0:13:50.040 --> 0:13:53.959 as well. What on top of this news coming out, 0:13:53.960 --> 0:13:56.800 which I think is really good, right for those people 0:13:56.840 --> 0:13:59.559 that have been hesitant because they've been waiting for some 0:13:59.640 --> 0:14:03.800 other stamp of approval, we have had the most positive 0:14:03.840 --> 0:14:08.240 COVID cases in the United States in the world. This week. 0:14:09.320 --> 0:14:13.200 School is back in most of the country after Labor Day. 0:14:13.240 --> 0:14:15.800 It will be after that. What are your thoughts about 0:14:15.800 --> 0:14:20.240 where we are with vaccinations, about hesitancy and whether or 0:14:20.280 --> 0:14:25.720 not the FDA approval is going to move the vaccination 0:14:25.840 --> 0:14:28.760 numbers up. Yes, yeah, no, thank you. It's great to 0:14:28.800 --> 0:14:31.160 be back. Thank you so much for having me at 0:14:31.280 --> 0:14:36.240 such an important conversation. Notable really the full approval from 0:14:36.240 --> 0:14:39.160 the FDA this week for the Fizer BioNTech vaccine, and 0:14:39.200 --> 0:14:41.640 I think that is a watershed moment for us. I 0:14:41.800 --> 0:14:45.320 know people personally who've been waiting for that stamp of approval, 0:14:45.360 --> 0:14:47.440 as you said, and so here it is. You know, 0:14:47.480 --> 0:14:49.960 if this is what you've been looking for, it's arrived 0:14:50.000 --> 0:14:54.120 and please do go get vaccinated. You make a very 0:14:54.160 --> 0:14:57.640 sobering observation. Right now, many people, it's back to school season, 0:14:57.640 --> 0:15:00.440 it's back to work season, and where are we right 0:15:00.480 --> 0:15:02.520 now as a country with the increase in cases and 0:15:03.120 --> 0:15:06.360 even more really the hospitalizations and even loss of life 0:15:06.440 --> 0:15:09.240 that we're seeing. And I want to just remind everybody 0:15:09.280 --> 0:15:14.000 that right now, sadly, it's still a pandemic of the unvaccinated. 0:15:14.720 --> 0:15:16.320 And so when we look at who's in the hospital 0:15:16.320 --> 0:15:18.440 and who's losing their lives now, and these are largely 0:15:18.480 --> 0:15:22.080 preventable because of the vaccines, and all the vaccines are effective, 0:15:22.200 --> 0:15:24.640 not just fisor Maderna and Jay and Jay as well 0:15:24.840 --> 0:15:27.080 keeping people out of the hospital on the line, and 0:15:27.120 --> 0:15:30.560 so it really is important to get vaccinated. When we 0:15:30.600 --> 0:15:33.200 talk about children, I'm sure we will get into that more. 0:15:33.280 --> 0:15:35.000 We know how to keep them safe and how to 0:15:35.040 --> 0:15:37.840 keep them safe in school, and one of the strategies 0:15:37.920 --> 0:15:40.760 is to surround them with vaccinated adults and people who 0:15:40.760 --> 0:15:45.480 are eligible haven't gotten vaccinated. So really notable Fiser approved 0:15:45.640 --> 0:15:49.120 Maderna with the full submission, so that's coming, and then 0:15:49.120 --> 0:15:50.840 of course we would expect Jay and Jada to submit 0:15:50.960 --> 0:15:55.080 as well. Really key, But vaccines don't save lives. It's 0:15:55.120 --> 0:15:57.080 vaccinations that do, and that's what we need to see 0:15:57.120 --> 0:16:01.200 continued uptake in the number of people getting vaccinate. What 0:16:01.440 --> 0:16:04.520 can you tell us about the booster shots. The President 0:16:04.800 --> 0:16:09.040 has said to us that eight months after your second 0:16:09.040 --> 0:16:12.280 shot that you should now be getting a booster shot. 0:16:12.280 --> 0:16:16.080 Can you talk about that and why why we're thinking 0:16:16.080 --> 0:16:18.480 that this is important eight months instead of a year 0:16:18.960 --> 0:16:21.200 or what have you. Yeah, I know a lot of 0:16:21.240 --> 0:16:23.600 questions out there about boosters. Let me start off by 0:16:23.720 --> 0:16:27.400 just kind of pulling pulling a separate and aside a 0:16:27.440 --> 0:16:30.280 conversation about people who might have weakened immune systems, and 0:16:30.480 --> 0:16:32.560 that might be because of a diagnosis that you have. 0:16:32.600 --> 0:16:36.200 Our medications that you take at FDN CDC already came 0:16:36.240 --> 0:16:38.880 out and said that, you know, you do need a 0:16:38.920 --> 0:16:42.640 third shot to get that initial good response. So your 0:16:42.640 --> 0:16:45.440 primary series should be three shots. And I say go 0:16:45.440 --> 0:16:48.160 out now, talk to your doctors. Get that third shot. 0:16:48.200 --> 0:16:50.880 That's really important. So that's not a booster right, So 0:16:50.920 --> 0:16:54.000 separate from that is its conversation about other people who 0:16:54.000 --> 0:16:56.880 have intact immune systems. You know, when might we see 0:16:57.000 --> 0:17:00.720 immunity begin to wane, which is very normal in vaccines 0:17:00.720 --> 0:17:05.960 that we would see that. And importantly, what the science 0:17:06.040 --> 0:17:08.520 now shows that some of the evidence suggests is with 0:17:08.600 --> 0:17:12.840 the addition of delta as well, that that immunity might 0:17:12.880 --> 0:17:15.560 begin to drop in a way that begins to raise 0:17:15.880 --> 0:17:19.440 risks somewhere around that eight month mark. Really important. What 0:17:19.480 --> 0:17:23.520 the President announced is a readiness plan in consultation with 0:17:23.560 --> 0:17:27.399 the Medical Advisor team, saying it does seem inevitable that 0:17:27.480 --> 0:17:30.840 we will need to offer boosters and so to get 0:17:30.880 --> 0:17:33.119 ready for that. But the FDA still has to do 0:17:33.160 --> 0:17:36.280 their process and the CDC, and so this isn't going 0:17:36.320 --> 0:17:39.320 to happen sooner than the end of September. So people 0:17:39.359 --> 0:17:43.120 should not should not go out now. Importantly, the fd 0:17:43.240 --> 0:17:45.200 is going to look at things like safety, so wait 0:17:45.240 --> 0:17:48.920 for that again. If you're immunocompromise, that's separate. Go talk 0:17:48.960 --> 0:17:52.440 to your doctor now about getting your third shot. How 0:17:52.480 --> 0:17:56.080 do we deal with the fact that across the country 0:17:56.160 --> 0:17:58.680 right now, Arkansas governor has come out and said their 0:17:58.720 --> 0:18:03.440 hospitals are collapsing on the pressure. Texas I believe that 0:18:03.480 --> 0:18:07.679 it was one of the hospitals has now closed. And 0:18:07.760 --> 0:18:10.880 let me get this right. Memorial Herman Hospital and Western 0:18:10.960 --> 0:18:15.640 Houston has closed three of their twenty four hour emergency 0:18:15.720 --> 0:18:18.760 rooms because of the amount of people that are coming 0:18:18.760 --> 0:18:21.520 in with COVID. What is your message to people that 0:18:21.560 --> 0:18:24.280 are living in these red states, These governors who have 0:18:24.359 --> 0:18:27.520 decided that they don't need to have MASK mandates that 0:18:27.840 --> 0:18:31.920 they are essentially putting their constituents at risk and continue 0:18:31.920 --> 0:18:35.840 to do so as their hospital systems are crumbling under 0:18:35.840 --> 0:18:38.760 the pressure. Which what kind of message should we be 0:18:38.840 --> 0:18:42.800 sending to these governors, to their constituents in order to 0:18:42.840 --> 0:18:47.080 get them safe. Yeah, you know, it's unconscionable. This is 0:18:47.119 --> 0:18:50.320 not a political issue. It never was. The virus doesn't 0:18:50.400 --> 0:18:53.840 no party lines. This is a public health crisis. Public 0:18:53.880 --> 0:18:57.560 health officials should be the ones making the decisions, the recommendations. 0:18:58.200 --> 0:19:00.360 You know, we are not where we were a year 0:19:00.359 --> 0:19:02.640 ago because we know so much more, and that makes 0:19:02.640 --> 0:19:05.879 it all the more tragic and inexcusable. We know that 0:19:05.960 --> 0:19:09.160 mask work, we have vaccines that work, and to see 0:19:09.160 --> 0:19:12.119 politicians standing in the way of the best in public 0:19:12.119 --> 0:19:15.920 health science and practice, putting constituents at risk, it's unacceptable. 0:19:15.960 --> 0:19:17.920 You know, the President has said this. When it comes 0:19:17.960 --> 0:19:21.119 to schools, it is completely unacceptable. We have to make 0:19:21.160 --> 0:19:23.400 sure our children can be in school and be safe. 0:19:23.640 --> 0:19:26.720 CDC has clear guidance on what's needed there. The President 0:19:26.880 --> 0:19:32.359 has really directed Secretary Cardonar, his Secretary for Education, to 0:19:32.520 --> 0:19:36.000 use every level possible to make sure children can be 0:19:36.359 --> 0:19:39.600 safe in school. And you're right about the hospitals. They're 0:19:39.640 --> 0:19:42.160 stretched and stressed. We need the hospitals to be there, 0:19:42.200 --> 0:19:44.200 not just for COVID patients, but for everybody else who 0:19:44.200 --> 0:19:47.359 has a heart attack, a stroke, a car accident. And 0:19:47.440 --> 0:19:51.200 at this point it's really attenable the situation there. So 0:19:51.440 --> 0:19:54.360 it's not political. This is a public health crisis. Kudos 0:19:54.359 --> 0:19:57.040 to the public health officials in those states and cities 0:19:57.080 --> 0:20:02.040 who are stepping forth courageously putting science first. Last question 0:20:02.119 --> 0:20:06.560 for you is about what you said earlier, vaccines don't 0:20:06.560 --> 0:20:09.320 save lives. Vaccinations save lives, and we know that we 0:20:09.359 --> 0:20:13.160 are seeing and hearing about more breakthrough cases with in fact, 0:20:13.200 --> 0:20:16.560 with people becoming infected with COVID. The good news is 0:20:16.720 --> 0:20:19.600 they are not becoming hospitalized or dying. So what is 0:20:19.640 --> 0:20:22.439 your message for those folks that are saying, well, see 0:20:22.520 --> 0:20:25.240 that's why I'm not getting vaccinated, because you can still 0:20:25.280 --> 0:20:29.119 get COVID anyway. Yeah, I think that's so right, right 0:20:29.160 --> 0:20:31.840 to be able to say, Look, the vaccines were always 0:20:31.880 --> 0:20:35.600 intended to keep you away from severe illness, to keep 0:20:35.680 --> 0:20:38.399 us out of the hospital, and they're still working really 0:20:38.440 --> 0:20:40.639 really well of that. That's why there isn't a rush 0:20:40.720 --> 0:20:43.000 now to say to people who've been vaccinated, you need 0:20:43.000 --> 0:20:45.000 to go out and get boosted now, because they're still 0:20:45.040 --> 0:20:47.879 working right to your point, the breakthrough infections. And one 0:20:47.880 --> 0:20:50.320 of my good friends right now just texted me and 0:20:50.320 --> 0:20:52.280 he said, look, I got a positive test, but I'm 0:20:52.280 --> 0:20:55.080 feeling pretty good. I'm so glad I got vaccinated, right, 0:20:55.160 --> 0:20:57.760 And that's the idea there is that the vaccine is 0:20:57.760 --> 0:21:00.000 going to keep you away from the worst of COVID nine. 0:21:00.280 --> 0:21:06.040 That's still true. Delta it's different, right, and Delta is 0:21:06.080 --> 0:21:08.640 more contagious, and so we're not you know, this isn't 0:21:08.640 --> 0:21:11.479 the same kind of advice you're dealing with before. If 0:21:11.480 --> 0:21:16.000 you're not vaccinated, your chances of getting infected are incredibly high. 0:21:16.040 --> 0:21:17.920 And when we look in the hospital and who's dying 0:21:17.920 --> 0:21:21.520 their unvaccinated people, it's not too late. It is urgent, though, 0:21:21.760 --> 0:21:24.720 So please make that good choice for yourself. Your family 0:21:24.720 --> 0:21:29.600 wouldn't want anybody else grieving unnecessarily in our country. Doctor 0:21:29.640 --> 0:21:32.640 Marcella Nunia Smith, we thank you so much for your 0:21:32.680 --> 0:21:37.040 continued work and effort to try and and curb this pandemic. 0:21:37.480 --> 0:21:41.560 You know, doctor Fauci said, you know, lastly, doctor Fauci said, 0:21:41.840 --> 0:21:44.440 you know this week that we're going to be living 0:21:44.480 --> 0:21:48.320 with this for quite some time. Is that you're feeling 0:21:48.359 --> 0:21:51.480 as well? And do you do you have more hope 0:21:51.920 --> 0:21:54.280 as we move into fall in winter that it doesn't 0:21:54.280 --> 0:21:57.159 look the way it did in twenty twenty. Yeah, you know, 0:21:57.200 --> 0:21:59.679 I can see the whole whole of optimism we have 0:21:59.720 --> 0:22:03.600 to now that we didn't have before you the vaccines, 0:22:03.640 --> 0:22:06.160 knowing what we can do to keep ourselves safe with 0:22:06.240 --> 0:22:08.879 a mask wearing. So we are in a different place. 0:22:08.920 --> 0:22:12.160 We know the clinical trials are well underway for those 0:22:12.240 --> 0:22:16.160 children who are under twelve, so we would anticipate emergencies 0:22:16.160 --> 0:22:19.920 authorization coming along for those age groups. So it is different, 0:22:19.960 --> 0:22:22.040 and I think it's important, and I agree very much 0:22:22.040 --> 0:22:25.520 with doctor Faucci. I mean, we live with other infectious disease. 0:22:25.600 --> 0:22:28.840 We live with influenza, for example, and so if we 0:22:28.880 --> 0:22:32.560 can move from pandemic to endemic, I mean I think 0:22:32.600 --> 0:22:34.800 that's huge, but we have all the tools now to 0:22:35.000 --> 0:22:38.320 really make a difference and bend the curve in the pandemic. 0:22:38.760 --> 0:22:41.600 I'm encouraged to see the number of folks stopping up 0:22:41.600 --> 0:22:44.639 to get vaccinated now. It is climbing quite Frankly, I 0:22:44.680 --> 0:22:47.240 think people are paying attention. Delta has gotten their attention, 0:22:48.080 --> 0:22:50.480 and you know, with the full approval, I'm sure there'll 0:22:50.480 --> 0:22:53.160 be additional employer and other mandates coming down the pipe. 0:22:53.200 --> 0:22:55.320 So I think more people will be getting vaccinated and 0:22:55.400 --> 0:22:59.560 that is good. Doctor Marcella. 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