1 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:14,600 Speaker 1: Good morning, peeps, and welcome to WIKA F Daily with 2 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:19,600 Speaker 1: Meet your Girl Danielle Moody, recording live from the Brooklyn Bunker. 3 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:22,920 Speaker 1: We'd be moving around a lot these days, from studio 4 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:27,320 Speaker 1: to home and back again. You know, folks, I get 5 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 1: to a place often where I am just wanting to 6 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 1: throw out my hands, where I'm wanting to be like, 7 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:37,920 Speaker 1: I'm just done. I'm done in general, right because every 8 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 1: time that I open up the news, every time that 9 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 1: I look, you know, at the papers, every time that 10 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:48,600 Speaker 1: I go into Twitter, it just feels like I'm just dripping, 11 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 1: dripping in like sewage and acid and just toxicity. It's 12 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 1: no wonder why people opt out of social media after 13 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 1: a while. It's no wonder why there is like extreme 14 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:04,760 Speaker 1: burnout from the news and people are just like after 15 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 1: twenty twenty, they don't even want to turn on. But 16 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 1: the reality is is that if you don't if you 17 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 1: don't check in right, then you can't have a voice. 18 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:19,680 Speaker 1: Then you don't know what's going on. So here are 19 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 1: some things that I want to bring to your attention 20 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 1: that are happening right now that just shouldn't be. And 21 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 1: I'm going to continue to talk about COVID on this show, 22 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 1: because we're still in a pandemic, and yet the majority 23 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 1: of the country doesn't think so, except for the fact, 24 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:39,759 Speaker 1: folks that this week, the United States has more positive 25 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:44,320 Speaker 1: COVID cases than any other country in the world. How 26 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 1: the fuck is that happening when we literally have more 27 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 1: vaccines than every other country in the world. Do you 28 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 1: know why that is? Because we're the ones creating the vaccines. 29 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 1: They're being created in the United States, and the federal 30 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 1: government has purchased all of them, essentially so that every 31 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 1: American can get their two shots and a booster. And 32 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 1: yet we're still seeing reports, like I said yesterday, of 33 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 1: hospitals having to close down emergency rooms. Of the Arkansas 34 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:22,520 Speaker 1: governor now after his fucking bullshit getting on the airwaves 35 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 1: and telling people the hospitals are at capacity. Yeah, motherfucker. 36 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:28,080 Speaker 1: What did you think was going to happen when you 37 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 1: didn't have a mask mandate in place? What did you 38 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:33,240 Speaker 1: think was going to happen when you were telling folks 39 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 1: that they shouldn't send their kids to schools with masking, 40 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 1: telling school boards and city councils that they can't have 41 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:43,640 Speaker 1: mask mandates. And then you in these Red states have 42 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:47,679 Speaker 1: the lowest vaccination numbers because you all believe the Trump bullshit. 43 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 1: And you know what pisses me off even more is 44 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:54,240 Speaker 1: that when that fucking orange piece of shit had one 45 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 1: of his hate rallies recently and he says, oh, you 46 00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 1: know you should, folks, you should get the vaccine, he 47 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 1: was booed by his own fucking sycophants. That's how far 48 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 1: gone these people are. And so I continue to say, look, 49 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:12,799 Speaker 1: you don't want to get the vaccine, right, what ambulances 50 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 1: should be asking, folks is and when they're headed to 51 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 1: your house to go get you anti vaxer, to go 52 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 1: bring you to the emergency room to ask the question 53 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:26,800 Speaker 1: were you vaccinated? Let me see your vaccin vaccination card. 54 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 1: Oh you weren't vaccinated. Well, there is no room at 55 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 1: the end for you, because what needs to start happening 56 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 1: is that we are going to keep our beds in 57 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 1: this hospital for people in actual need. You didn't need 58 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 1: the vaccine, you didn't need a mask. Well, guess what, 59 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 1: you don't need a hospital bed either, because the same 60 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 1: people that we're telling you to prevent your severe illness 61 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 1: and death, who you didn't want to believe because you 62 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 1: think that your Facebook and YouTube education is greater than 63 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 1: their seven, eight, nine, ten years of schooling in the 64 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 1: medical industry, then fucking google your way out of your symptoms. 65 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 1: Once you catch COVID, don't now flood into hospitals begging 66 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:19,279 Speaker 1: for help. Fuck you. And that's really what I want 67 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:22,599 Speaker 1: nurses and doctors and health administrators to start saying, being like, no, 68 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 1: if you haven't been vaccinated, you don't get to come 69 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:31,160 Speaker 1: to the hospital for what for the imaginary hoax of 70 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:33,840 Speaker 1: medicine that we're going to be sticking into your arm 71 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:36,839 Speaker 1: that you don't know anything about, and it's microchips and this, 72 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:38,839 Speaker 1: that and the other thing. Why do you believe in 73 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:41,920 Speaker 1: the hospital when you were on your deathbed, but you 74 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 1: didn't believe in those same doctors when they were trying 75 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 1: to save your life. I don't see why you should 76 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 1: receive care. And people may say, oh my god, Danielle, 77 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 1: that is so harsh. We don't want people to die, 78 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:58,479 Speaker 1: and I say, fuck them. You want to roll the dice, 79 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:05,360 Speaker 1: roll them. Our country just feels so fucked right now 80 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:09,839 Speaker 1: that I don't really know how you unfuck it. Because 81 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:11,479 Speaker 1: let me tell you something, we should not be in 82 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 1: a place where we are trying to hold hands with 83 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 1: these people, we're, oh, you know, let's bring them over 84 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 1: to our side. Fuck that for what if you weren't 85 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 1: going to be able to convince these people after four 86 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 1: years of living under Donald Trump, right, and now their messiah. 87 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 1: They don't even listen to their messiah after he says 88 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 1: that he's been vaccinated, right, and that they should get 89 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:39,159 Speaker 1: vaccinated too. And as soon as they started to boo, 90 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 1: this man just shriveled up like the fucking turd that 91 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 1: he is. Okay, okay, okay, whatever it is that you want, 92 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 1: Just still love me, Still give me money so that 93 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 1: I can pay all of my lawyer fees for all 94 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 1: of the court cases that are being waged against me 95 00:05:56,279 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 1: because I'm a fucking criminal. And we continue to talk 96 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:03,720 Speaker 1: about these people as if like, oh, they know not 97 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:06,920 Speaker 1: what they do. Yes, they do. They know exactly what 98 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:12,920 Speaker 1: they are doing. You know, right now you have de 99 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 1: Satan and these other red state governors that are following 100 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:23,359 Speaker 1: in his footsteps with their big footing on municipalities and 101 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 1: school districts for wanting to keep people safe. Thousands of 102 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 1: children have already been infected with COVID nineteen. Many are 103 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 1: going to die and are dying right now. And what 104 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 1: is Joe Biden doing about it? Because I can recall 105 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:48,920 Speaker 1: that when Donald Trump was President of the United States, 106 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 1: he threatened blue states left and right. Oh, I'm not 107 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:54,119 Speaker 1: going to give you any funding unless you kiss my ass. 108 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna help you. I'm not gonna send FEMA, 109 00:06:56,720 --> 00:06:59,839 Speaker 1: I'm not going to give you aid because I don't 110 00:06:59,880 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 1: like you. Well, how about we turn around and use 111 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 1: that same type of energy for the greater good, which 112 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 1: is Hey Florida, Hey Texas, Hey Tennessee, Hey Arkansas, Mississippi, 113 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 1: and the rest of y'all. If you do not roll 114 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 1: back your anti mask mandates, you will not be receiving 115 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 1: any federal funding on anything. Why don't you start playing 116 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 1: their fucking game and playing like you want to win, 117 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 1: playing like you have some oomph behind you, because at 118 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 1: the end of the day, they don't. Right, it's all 119 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 1: handholding and stroking and playing to the bottom as opposed 120 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 1: to playing to the top. It's all doing the middle 121 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 1: of the road bullshit. And I'm telling you we are 122 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 1: not living in times anymore of neutrality. Like I don't 123 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 1: even like the fact that nalists are using the term 124 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 1: anti masker. Just call them pro death, Just say that 125 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 1: they are the pro death party. They are pro death 126 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 1: and pro COVID pro pandemic. That's it. Because you set 127 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 1: it up as if there are some type of fucking debate, 128 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 1: and there isn't a debate, and then you have these 129 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 1: assholes that are getting on these social media platforms and 130 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 1: talking about, well, the vaccine doesn't work because people are 131 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 1: still catching COVID. But guess what vaccines do work because 132 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:36,679 Speaker 1: the people that are catching COVID with breakthrough cases aren't 133 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:41,560 Speaker 1: dying and they aren't falling severely ill, and then they 134 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:43,679 Speaker 1: don't have to worry about the Russian roulette that we 135 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:46,440 Speaker 1: were playing in twenty twenty because they did what they 136 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:48,959 Speaker 1: needed to do in order to cover themselves and keep 137 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:57,960 Speaker 1: themselves safe. I believe wholeheartedly that had Donald Trump never existed, 138 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 1: we wouldn't ever be in this place right now in 139 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:06,720 Speaker 1: terms of this division around vaccines, in this division around 140 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 1: the pandemic, that things could have been orderly, they could 141 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:13,680 Speaker 1: have been thoughtful, and that when the vaccines were rolled 142 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 1: out it would have been a praise God's celebration across 143 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 1: America because we made it finally but instead we have 144 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 1: the highest numbers of any place in the world, and 145 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 1: yet we have the most vaccines. If that doesn't look 146 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 1: like fucking global privilege, then I don't know what it is, 147 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:36,080 Speaker 1: because that's some Western privilege bullshit. Because there are people 148 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 1: in other countries that are dying in the streets because 149 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 1: they don't have the vaccine. They don't have the ability 150 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 1: to get the vaccine. Meanwhile, you can get it at 151 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 1: any fucking CBS and drug store across the country. And 152 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 1: people are still flooding into hospitals, still filling up ICUs. 153 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 1: There are makeshift bed and tense being put up like 154 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:05,200 Speaker 1: it is twenty twenty, when we had nothing other than 155 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:08,440 Speaker 1: the mask and social distancing and washing your fucking hands 156 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 1: to combat this virus. And now once you have something 157 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:16,320 Speaker 1: that says, look, we won't die going to the grocery store. Look, 158 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 1: you can share a meal with a friend again. You 159 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 1: can move your life from outside of zoom. For these 160 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 1: people that wanted to open up the economy so quickly, 161 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 1: you would think that they would be the biggest propontus 162 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 1: to get the vaccine, so we can go back to 163 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:31,200 Speaker 1: buck to normal. But no, let us march through the 164 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 1: Greek alphabet instead, because folks, while we want to roll 165 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 1: our eyes at these people, and trust me, I do, 166 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 1: the reality is is that the longer that this virus 167 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 1: stays around, and this is what doctor Jonathan Metzel tells 168 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:48,199 Speaker 1: us every fucking week, and later on in the show, 169 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:52,720 Speaker 1: doctor Marcella Nunez Smith, the head of the White House 170 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 1: COVID Task Force, will say once again that the longer 171 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 1: that this virus stays in the air, the longer the 172 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 1: amount of time that it's given to continue to mutate 173 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 1: on top of itself. And as Jonathan said yesterday, the 174 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 1: virus is mutating thousands of times every minute, right waiting 175 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 1: for that next silver bullet that works around all of 176 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 1: the vaccines. And then we're truly fucked because we would 177 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:29,560 Speaker 1: have had an opportunity once vaccinations were rolling out at 178 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 1: the beginning of the year to really squash this and 179 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 1: we didn't. And that's what we were in a race 180 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:43,680 Speaker 1: against time for, because scientists know how viruses work, and 181 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:46,840 Speaker 1: this one is an anomaly on a lot of fronts, 182 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 1: but they know the more virus, the more likely it mutates, 183 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 1: and our inability to catch the mutation before it is 184 00:11:56,200 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 1: now completely in total, making the vaccines that we do 185 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 1: have ineffective. I don't want to get to that place. 186 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 1: And I know that you folks listening to this short 187 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 1: as fuck don't want to get to that place. But 188 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:14,319 Speaker 1: I got to tell you that that's where I believe 189 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 1: we are headed. I think that we are headed for 190 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:26,080 Speaker 1: a very long hard fall and winter again. And I 191 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:31,679 Speaker 1: am continually worry about the Petrie dish that we call 192 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:37,720 Speaker 1: our school systems, particularly in these states with governors that 193 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 1: have turned themselves into executioners. You know, I just every 194 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:45,680 Speaker 1: day I say to myself, how do we get here? 195 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:50,600 Speaker 1: Why are we here? And every day it comes back 196 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 1: to the bullshit from the Republican Party. That's how we 197 00:12:57,559 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 1: got here. There lies the hatred, their cruelty, those are 198 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 1: their values. That's how we got here. Coming up next, folks, 199 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 1: is my conversation with doctor Marcella Nuniez Smith, the head 200 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:17,440 Speaker 1: of the White House Task Force on COVID nineteen. She's 201 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 1: going to talk about the vaccines and the Fiser FDA approval, 202 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 1: the Maderna pending approval, and where we go from here. 203 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:32,679 Speaker 1: Doctor Marcella Nuniez Smith, thank you so much for rejoining 204 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:35,720 Speaker 1: woke A f to bring us up to date on 205 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 1: where we are with the vaccinations. This week, Fiser was 206 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 1: just FDA approved for their vaccinations, and I heard earlier 207 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:49,960 Speaker 1: today that Maderna has filed for their full FDA approval 208 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:53,959 Speaker 1: as well. What on top of this news coming out, 209 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 1: which I think is really good, right for those people 210 00:13:56,840 --> 00:13:59,559 Speaker 1: that have been hesitant because they've been waiting for some 211 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 1: other stamp of approval, we have had the most positive 212 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 1: COVID cases in the United States in the world. This week. 213 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:13,200 Speaker 1: School is back in most of the country after Labor Day. 214 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 1: It will be after that. What are your thoughts about 215 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 1: where we are with vaccinations, about hesitancy and whether or 216 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 1: not the FDA approval is going to move the vaccination 217 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 1: numbers up. Yes, yeah, no, thank you. It's great to 218 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 1: be back. Thank you so much for having me at 219 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 1: such an important conversation. Notable really the full approval from 220 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 1: the FDA this week for the Fizer BioNTech vaccine, and 221 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 1: I think that is a watershed moment for us. I 222 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 1: know people personally who've been waiting for that stamp of approval, 223 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 1: as you said, and so here it is. You know, 224 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 1: if this is what you've been looking for, it's arrived 225 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 1: and please do go get vaccinated. You make a very 226 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 1: sobering observation. Right now, many people, it's back to school season, 227 00:14:57,640 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 1: it's back to work season, and where are we right 228 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 1: now as a country with the increase in cases and 229 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:06,360 Speaker 1: even more really the hospitalizations and even loss of life 230 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 1: that we're seeing. And I want to just remind everybody 231 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 1: that right now, sadly, it's still a pandemic of the unvaccinated. 232 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 1: And so when we look at who's in the hospital 233 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 1: and who's losing their lives now, and these are largely 234 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 1: preventable because of the vaccines, and all the vaccines are effective, 235 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:24,640 Speaker 1: not just fisor Maderna and Jay and Jay as well 236 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 1: keeping people out of the hospital on the line, and 237 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 1: so it really is important to get vaccinated. When we 238 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 1: talk about children, I'm sure we will get into that more. 239 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 1: We know how to keep them safe and how to 240 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 1: keep them safe in school, and one of the strategies 241 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 1: is to surround them with vaccinated adults and people who 242 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:45,480 Speaker 1: are eligible haven't gotten vaccinated. So really notable Fiser approved 243 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 1: Maderna with the full submission, so that's coming, and then 244 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 1: of course we would expect Jay and Jada to submit 245 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 1: as well. Really key, But vaccines don't save lives. It's 246 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 1: vaccinations that do, and that's what we need to see 247 00:15:57,120 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 1: continued uptake in the number of people getting vaccinate. What 248 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 1: can you tell us about the booster shots. The President 249 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:09,040 Speaker 1: has said to us that eight months after your second 250 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 1: shot that you should now be getting a booster shot. 251 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 1: Can you talk about that and why why we're thinking 252 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 1: that this is important eight months instead of a year 253 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 1: or what have you. Yeah, I know a lot of 254 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 1: questions out there about boosters. Let me start off by 255 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 1: just kind of pulling pulling a separate and aside a 256 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 1: conversation about people who might have weakened immune systems, and 257 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 1: that might be because of a diagnosis that you have. 258 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:36,200 Speaker 1: Our medications that you take at FDN CDC already came 259 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 1: out and said that, you know, you do need a 260 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 1: third shot to get that initial good response. So your 261 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 1: primary series should be three shots. And I say go 262 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:48,160 Speaker 1: out now, talk to your doctors. Get that third shot. 263 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 1: That's really important. So that's not a booster right, So 264 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 1: separate from that is its conversation about other people who 265 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 1: have intact immune systems. You know, when might we see 266 00:16:57,000 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 1: immunity begin to wane, which is very normal in vaccines 267 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:05,960 Speaker 1: that we would see that. And importantly, what the science 268 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 1: now shows that some of the evidence suggests is with 269 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 1: the addition of delta as well, that that immunity might 270 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 1: begin to drop in a way that begins to raise 271 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:19,440 Speaker 1: risks somewhere around that eight month mark. Really important. What 272 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 1: the President announced is a readiness plan in consultation with 273 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:27,399 Speaker 1: the Medical Advisor team, saying it does seem inevitable that 274 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 1: we will need to offer boosters and so to get 275 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:33,119 Speaker 1: ready for that. But the FDA still has to do 276 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 1: their process and the CDC, and so this isn't going 277 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 1: to happen sooner than the end of September. So people 278 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:43,120 Speaker 1: should not should not go out now. Importantly, the fd 279 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:45,200 Speaker 1: is going to look at things like safety, so wait 280 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:48,920 Speaker 1: for that again. If you're immunocompromise, that's separate. Go talk 281 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:52,440 Speaker 1: to your doctor now about getting your third shot. How 282 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 1: do we deal with the fact that across the country 283 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:58,680 Speaker 1: right now, Arkansas governor has come out and said their 284 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:03,440 Speaker 1: hospitals are collapsing on the pressure. Texas I believe that 285 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:07,679 Speaker 1: it was one of the hospitals has now closed. And 286 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:10,880 Speaker 1: let me get this right. Memorial Herman Hospital and Western 287 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:15,640 Speaker 1: Houston has closed three of their twenty four hour emergency 288 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 1: rooms because of the amount of people that are coming 289 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 1: in with COVID. What is your message to people that 290 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 1: are living in these red states, These governors who have 291 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 1: decided that they don't need to have MASK mandates that 292 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:31,920 Speaker 1: they are essentially putting their constituents at risk and continue 293 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 1: to do so as their hospital systems are crumbling under 294 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 1: the pressure. Which what kind of message should we be 295 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 1: sending to these governors, to their constituents in order to 296 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 1: get them safe. Yeah, you know, it's unconscionable. This is 297 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 1: not a political issue. It never was. The virus doesn't 298 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 1: no party lines. This is a public health crisis. Public 299 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:57,560 Speaker 1: health officials should be the ones making the decisions, the recommendations. 300 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:00,360 Speaker 1: You know, we are not where we were a year 301 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:02,640 Speaker 1: ago because we know so much more, and that makes 302 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:05,879 Speaker 1: it all the more tragic and inexcusable. We know that 303 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:09,160 Speaker 1: mask work, we have vaccines that work, and to see 304 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:12,119 Speaker 1: politicians standing in the way of the best in public 305 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:15,920 Speaker 1: health science and practice, putting constituents at risk, it's unacceptable. 306 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:17,920 Speaker 1: You know, the President has said this. When it comes 307 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:21,119 Speaker 1: to schools, it is completely unacceptable. We have to make 308 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:23,400 Speaker 1: sure our children can be in school and be safe. 309 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:26,720 Speaker 1: CDC has clear guidance on what's needed there. The President 310 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:32,359 Speaker 1: has really directed Secretary Cardonar, his Secretary for Education, to 311 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 1: use every level possible to make sure children can be 312 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 1: safe in school. And you're right about the hospitals. They're 313 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:42,160 Speaker 1: stretched and stressed. We need the hospitals to be there, 314 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:44,200 Speaker 1: not just for COVID patients, but for everybody else who 315 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:47,359 Speaker 1: has a heart attack, a stroke, a car accident. And 316 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:51,200 Speaker 1: at this point it's really attenable the situation there. So 317 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:54,360 Speaker 1: it's not political. This is a public health crisis. Kudos 318 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 1: to the public health officials in those states and cities 319 00:19:57,080 --> 00:20:02,040 Speaker 1: who are stepping forth courageously putting science first. Last question 320 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 1: for you is about what you said earlier, vaccines don't 321 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 1: save lives. Vaccinations save lives, and we know that we 322 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:13,160 Speaker 1: are seeing and hearing about more breakthrough cases with in fact, 323 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 1: with people becoming infected with COVID. The good news is 324 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 1: they are not becoming hospitalized or dying. So what is 325 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:22,439 Speaker 1: your message for those folks that are saying, well, see 326 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:25,240 Speaker 1: that's why I'm not getting vaccinated, because you can still 327 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:29,119 Speaker 1: get COVID anyway. Yeah, I think that's so right, right 328 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:31,840 Speaker 1: to be able to say, Look, the vaccines were always 329 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 1: intended to keep you away from severe illness, to keep 330 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:38,399 Speaker 1: us out of the hospital, and they're still working really 331 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:40,639 Speaker 1: really well of that. That's why there isn't a rush 332 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:43,000 Speaker 1: now to say to people who've been vaccinated, you need 333 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 1: to go out and get boosted now, because they're still 334 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:47,879 Speaker 1: working right to your point, the breakthrough infections. And one 335 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 1: of my good friends right now just texted me and 336 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 1: he said, look, I got a positive test, but I'm 337 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 1: feeling pretty good. I'm so glad I got vaccinated, right, 338 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 1: And that's the idea there is that the vaccine is 339 00:20:57,760 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 1: going to keep you away from the worst of COVID nine. 340 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 1: That's still true. Delta it's different, right, and Delta is 341 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:08,640 Speaker 1: more contagious, and so we're not you know, this isn't 342 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:11,479 Speaker 1: the same kind of advice you're dealing with before. If 343 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 1: you're not vaccinated, your chances of getting infected are incredibly high. 344 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:17,920 Speaker 1: And when we look in the hospital and who's dying 345 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 1: their unvaccinated people, it's not too late. It is urgent, though, 346 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:24,720 Speaker 1: So please make that good choice for yourself. Your family 347 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 1: wouldn't want anybody else grieving unnecessarily in our country. Doctor 348 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:32,640 Speaker 1: Marcella Nunia Smith, we thank you so much for your 349 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:37,040 Speaker 1: continued work and effort to try and and curb this pandemic. 350 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:41,560 Speaker 1: You know, doctor Fauci said, you know, lastly, doctor Fauci said, 351 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:44,440 Speaker 1: you know this week that we're going to be living 352 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 1: with this for quite some time. Is that you're feeling 353 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:51,480 Speaker 1: as well? And do you do you have more hope 354 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:54,280 Speaker 1: as we move into fall in winter that it doesn't 355 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:57,159 Speaker 1: look the way it did in twenty twenty. Yeah, you know, 356 00:21:57,200 --> 00:21:59,679 Speaker 1: I can see the whole whole of optimism we have 357 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:03,600 Speaker 1: to now that we didn't have before you the vaccines, 358 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:06,160 Speaker 1: knowing what we can do to keep ourselves safe with 359 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:08,879 Speaker 1: a mask wearing. So we are in a different place. 360 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:12,160 Speaker 1: We know the clinical trials are well underway for those 361 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:16,160 Speaker 1: children who are under twelve, so we would anticipate emergencies 362 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:19,920 Speaker 1: authorization coming along for those age groups. So it is different, 363 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 1: and I think it's important, and I agree very much 364 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 1: with doctor Faucci. I mean, we live with other infectious disease. 365 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:28,840 Speaker 1: We live with influenza, for example, and so if we 366 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 1: can move from pandemic to endemic, I mean I think 367 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 1: that's huge, but we have all the tools now to 368 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 1: really make a difference and bend the curve in the pandemic. 369 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 1: I'm encouraged to see the number of folks stopping up 370 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:44,639 Speaker 1: to get vaccinated now. It is climbing quite Frankly, I 371 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:47,240 Speaker 1: think people are paying attention. Delta has gotten their attention, 372 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 1: and you know, with the full approval, I'm sure there'll 373 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:53,160 Speaker 1: be additional employer and other mandates coming down the pipe. 374 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 1: So I think more people will be getting vaccinated and 375 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 1: that is good. Doctor Marcella. We thank you so much 376 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 1: for your work, for joining us to keep us informed, 377 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:05,119 Speaker 1: and we hope that you will join us again soon. 378 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for having me. That is it 379 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 1: for today's Woga f Daily podcast. To hear more, support 380 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 1: me on Patreon at patreon dot com. Slash Woga a 381 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 1: power to the people and to all the people. 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