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Speaker 1: The Way Tire buy In should be The seventh and

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Speaker 1: final round of this twenty twenty four NFL Draft is

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Speaker 1: now underway. So we are coming down the stretch of course,

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Speaker 1: our countdown Montci to mister Irrelevant at two fifty seven.

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Speaker 2: That will be the Jets pick.

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Speaker 1: And it's hard to call mister irrelevant after what happened

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Speaker 1: two years ago, would brock Perdy being the last pick

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Speaker 1: of the draft and two years later later leading the

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Speaker 1: NFL in passing rating.

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Speaker 3: So now all of a sudden, it is the name. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: it's got to be like the party pick.

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Speaker 4: That's it.

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Speaker 3: I like it.

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Speaker 5: I like it.

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Speaker 4: It cannot be mister, it just can't. All right with

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Speaker 4: the party pick.

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Speaker 3: We've got the Jets, Let's see who they take, because

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Speaker 3: it is impossible for it to carry that name.

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Speaker 4: Now, it's just it's not what it is.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I have the perfect pick for the Jets, for

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Speaker 1: the party pick, for the party pick, because he's a

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Speaker 1: pretty guy.

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Speaker 2: Okay, And I'm talking.

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Speaker 1: About my namesake, Sam Hartman, who is still the rage

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Speaker 1: with all the ladies on TikTok when Gaga over that

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Speaker 2: He's still on the board right now.

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Speaker 1: Going to New York. And remember Aaron Rodgers. How much

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Speaker 1: longer is Aaron Rodgers going to be around? Maybe a

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Speaker 1: year or two. Sam Hartman in New York in a

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Speaker 1: Jets uniform would be a huge pr move for the Jets.

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Speaker 4: Actually, that's pretty brilliant.

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Speaker 3: It's like you just said they got rid of Zach Wilson.

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Speaker 3: So it's just right now, Aaron Rodgers, what does your

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Speaker 3: future look like? He is a good at least we

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Speaker 4: I'm into that.

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Speaker 3: Let's see if they pull the trigger, because you know,

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Speaker 3: the Jets the last.

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Speaker 2: Big of the draft.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's not exactly like they got a bunch

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Speaker 1: of quarterbacks line out. So if the Jets are listen,

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Speaker 1: I know you are right now, I know you're busy

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Speaker 1: in the draft room. But come on, now, take Sam Hartman,

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Speaker 1: who is still on the board. All right, So they

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Speaker 1: are rifling quickly through the seventh and final round of

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Speaker 1: the NFL Draft. Coming up, Adam Kaplan's going to be

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Speaker 1: joining us. We got a lot of unanswered questions coming

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Speaker 1: out draft, so many I want to get to the

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Speaker 1: one that we'll obviously ask Adam about. But of all

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Speaker 1: the picks in this draft, the Michael Penicks trade. And

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Speaker 1: this is hard for me because I voted Pennix for

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Speaker 1: the Heisman Trophy. It was only the third time in

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Speaker 1: fourteen years that I've been voting for the Heisman that

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Speaker 1: my pick.

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Speaker 2: Is someone that did not win the Heisman.

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Speaker 1: He led the University of Washington all the way the

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Speaker 1: championship came there. There was nothing to complain about outside

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Speaker 1: can't wait for Adam Kaplan to me there is no

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Speaker 1: justify because if I said this once, I've said it

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Speaker 1: a million times when it comes to the draft, it's

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Speaker 1: not always about just who you take, it's about where

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Speaker 1: you take them. You could have gotten Michael Pennix much lower. Okay,

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Speaker 1: you say, well, wait a second here, we looked at

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Speaker 1: those eleven, twelve, thirteen picks. Right, you had Minnesota, you

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Speaker 1: But why would you be thinking quarterback when you just

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Speaker 1: gave Kirk Cousins one hundred million guaranteed. It's one hundred

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Speaker 1: and eighty million dollar deal, but you gave them one

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Speaker 1: hundred million guaranteed, including ninety million up front. Why would

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Speaker 4: I could not agree with you more.

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Speaker 3: Even though there are spins that people are throwing at me,

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Speaker 3: just wondering what's gonna happen with these players, and if

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Speaker 4: But even with that, I agree, Like, if I'm Minnesota,

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Speaker 4: I'm like, what was the point of this?

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Speaker 6: Then?

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Speaker 4: Why did you outbid for kirk Cousins? Why did you

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Speaker 4: take him away from us?

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Speaker 3: There's so many question marks, like if if the Falcons

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Speaker 4: We already know he's going through a.

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Speaker 3: Huge, huge injury at an age that is not ideal.

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Speaker 3: But yet you're the one who pulled the trigger, So

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Speaker 3: why did you do all of this? It really makes

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Speaker 3: no sense unless they're thinking, like in two years they

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Speaker 3: they're not paying anybody right now. Everybody else is still

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Speaker 1: Well maybe they don't have long term plans for kirk Cousins. Again,

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Speaker 1: Michael Pennix Junior will be twenty four years old coming

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Speaker 2: Yes, twenty four years old on May eighth, just a lot.

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Speaker 1: So that's how old he will be as a rookie

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Speaker 1: And even if you then make the decision, all right,

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Speaker 1: we're going to move to Michael Pennix as he gets

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Speaker 1: the Michael Pennix junior will never actually see action outside

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Speaker 4: I don't think that's what they're thinking.

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Speaker 3: It has to be that they are thinking what happens

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Speaker 1: But said that was the same though we're looking, we're

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Speaker 3: Wait a second, all right, well you know, so do

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Speaker 3: a lot of people, actually so to a lot of

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Speaker 4: To be long term contenders. Really, it just makes no sense.

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Speaker 4: I am curious to know if this was.

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Speaker 3: The plan all along, and if it was, why didn't

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Speaker 3: you tell Kirk Cousins this people, because his agent came

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Speaker 3: out and said, we were not told until they were

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Speaker 4: Made the call.

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Speaker 3: And I don't see how this does not affect morale

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Speaker 3: with your brand new quarterback that you're giving a one hundred

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Speaker 4: Not affect that.

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Speaker 1: I remember a situation with the Chargers a few years

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Speaker 1: a lot of buzz that they were going to take

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Speaker 1: thinking about Patrick Mahomes at that point, except apparently the Chiefs,

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Speaker 1: but Deshaun Watson was on everyone's radar and it was

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Speaker 1: and instead they took Mike Williams, the receiver who obviously

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Speaker 2: By the way, The next pick was Christian McCaffrey.

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Speaker 1: You passed on him, but anyway, and you also passed

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Speaker 1: on Patrick Mahomes if you were going to go quarterback.

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Speaker 1: But I remember actually having Philip Rivers on the next

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Speaker 2: You're giving me another weapon.

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Speaker 1: And the idea of wasting this pick, wasting a pick

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Speaker 1: on some quarterback of the future when I'm still here,

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Speaker 1: doesn't make a lot of sense.

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Speaker 2: Now, did it work? Not really?

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Speaker 1: I mean, the Chargers actually did make one playoff run

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Speaker 3: Of conversation conversation. Yes, again, that is what you're supposed

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Speaker 1: Right, Kirk Cousins has got a lot of money in

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Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins, it's like I left Minnesota because you not

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Speaker 2: Like this, this is not what I signed up for.

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Speaker 4: I agree, like I don't.

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Speaker 3: I Kirk Cousins seems like everybody after you know, quarterback,

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Speaker 3: everybody loves Kirk Cousins. He just seems like such a

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Speaker 3: still shops at Coles. I mean, we all love that.

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Speaker 3: How does this not psychologically affect him? He wants to play,

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Speaker 3: He's not. He's not like, great, I just got a

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Speaker 4: That's not what he wants. He wants to go out

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Speaker 3: Especially last year, up until his injury, he was competing

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Speaker 3: with the Vikings. He was winning you know, primetime games.

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Speaker 3: That was his uh, you know, kryptonite for so long.

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Speaker 3: He was at such a high point until he got injured.

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Speaker 3: And I'm sure he just.

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Speaker 4: Wants to go back into that. And now he's like, so,

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Speaker 4: are you gonna get rid of me in like two years?

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Speaker 4: Is this the plan?

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Speaker 3: Or is he gonna like swoop in in one year

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Speaker 3: and I'm just gonna have to teach him the ways.

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Speaker 1: Now he got a hundred million dollars. I mean, you know,

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Speaker 4: I don't think he wants to rest comfortably, That's what

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Speaker 3: Really, of course, do you see what a shirt I'm wearing.

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Speaker 4: I'm wearing a Backstreet Boys shirt.

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Speaker 1: Wow, I'm gonna, I'm gonna. I'm going to reveal something

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Speaker 1: right now. I've always been a Backstreet Boys fan.

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Speaker 1: Steve Harvin Montzi Belanya's Fox Sports Saturday. We are coming

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Speaker 1: in live from the Tairaq dot com studios. I don't

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Speaker 2: Better than anyone. We bring on our insider, Adam Kaplan.

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to ask you about the Backstreet Boys,

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Speaker 1: but I am going to ask you about the Falcons

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Speaker 1: and Michael Pennick Jr. So, now that you've had a

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Speaker 1: to figure out, like the rest of us, any sound

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Speaker 2: What have you come up with?

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Speaker 8: Well, guy's going to be with you, yes, So just

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Speaker 8: and powers it being also the talent, I said, guys,

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Speaker 8: there's gonna be some strange things happening tonight. I can't

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Speaker 8: something crazy. I didn't think though, it was going to

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Speaker 8: checked into it because like everyone else, I'm like, what,

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Speaker 8: you can't be serious. So, first of all, by contract structure,

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Speaker 8: the Falcons literally cannot do a thing with Kirk Cousins

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Speaker 8: unless he gets hurt, Michael Penix will not be playing

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Speaker 8: for two years. Michael Penix turns twenty four next month.

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Speaker 8: He'll be twenty six. If everything goes well with the

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Speaker 8: Kirk Cousins, he won't start a game until he's probably

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Speaker 5: So it's kind of like, Okay, well what are they doing?

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Speaker 8: So they wanted Penix so bale effect, they had the opportunity,

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Speaker 8: as to understands, to trade down. They were so worried

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Speaker 8: understand it, they're like, we're getting Penis. We're not going

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Speaker 8: We understand Kirk Cousins is going to sit for at

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Speaker 8: least a couple of years. But it's a quarterback position.

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Speaker 8: These guys could play until their late thirties. Cousins, by

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Speaker 8: that's it, and that's where we're at now. I know

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Speaker 5: They scratch their head.

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Speaker 8: Why would you want to sit your first round pick

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're not.

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Speaker 5: Going to try.

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Speaker 8: I mean now it'd be hard to trade him also

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Speaker 8: Then I get the consternation because, by the way, the

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Speaker 8: lines makers before the draft started, had already picked the

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Speaker 8: Falcons to win the division the NFC South, over the

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Speaker 4: Adam, was that.

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Speaker 3: The plan all along though for Atlanta? Or was this

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Speaker 3: something decide it was the plan?

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Speaker 5: I believe that. I believe it strongly.

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Speaker 8: Now that video that's out there, let me this is

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Speaker 8: Arthur Blank, the Falcons owner, that video that's out there,

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Speaker 8: it cannot be that he didn't know that. It doesn't

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Speaker 8: finally what it's going to be, usually till twenty four

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Speaker 8: It never us. Now what he can of tell him is, listen,

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Speaker 8: we looked at trade down possibilities. We weren't comfortable with

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Speaker 5: Just found out that they're doing this. There's no way

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Speaker 8: That to sleep because that it doesn't work like that.

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Speaker 8: I've never heard that before that they wait to tell

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Speaker 3: That's complete nonsense, because it also came out that his

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Speaker 8: Well no, but here's the thing though, talking the pay

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Speaker 8: I'll give you example. Last year with the Panthers, there

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Speaker 5: Will Levice was told he was gonna be the first picker.

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Speaker 8: Overall, I typically disregard the stuff as nonsense. I had

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Speaker 8: why would we tell them, because what if we get

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Speaker 8: ready made. Decision was going to be Bryce Young weeks ago,

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Speaker 8: weeks before that. But why would you not wait until

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Speaker 8: you're on the clock. What if someone off the three

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Speaker 8: first round picks? You just never know. So that's the

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Speaker 2: All right.

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Speaker 1: So I guess no one was paying attention to what

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Speaker 2: With their original team.

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Speaker 1: Wow, and now you have six quarterbacks taken in the

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Speaker 1: So was this like their third quarterback? Did the Broncos

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Speaker 1: the head there of Sean Payton and his plans moving

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Speaker 8: Yes, Steve, my understanding was, I mean, you could take

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Speaker 8: it for what it is. He thought, Uh, court to

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Speaker 8: to be Nicks. But this guy thought he'd go like

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Speaker 5: He just didn't see this.

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Speaker 8: He saw some Drew brees in him stylistically might be

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Speaker 8: a little bit taller than then Breeze. And Breeze, by

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Speaker 8: the way, was the first pickover overall in the second

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Speaker 8: was the first round pick or a high first round pick.

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Speaker 8: The thing that I'm learning is Steve as I this

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Speaker 8: is year twenty four for me covering the NFL. When

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Speaker 8: They're so scared about losing that player. Now here's another thing.

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Speaker 8: What we don't know was what was planned b if

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Speaker 8: someone shocked the world and selected this quarterback Knicks over them.

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Speaker 8: Because remember, now the next quarterback to go this is incredible.

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Speaker 5: Zer Rattler was the next quarterback and he went in

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Crazy.

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Speaker 4: Aside from quarterbacks. Now, let's move on to the forty

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Speaker 3: There's been a lot of trade rumors about possibly moving

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so what do you think the forty nine ers

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Speaker 8: So Ayuk has not signed for the past this season,

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Speaker 8: the season. By structure, I believe something. I think after

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Speaker 5: I don't.

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Speaker 8: I would say another nugget for you. They're what we

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Speaker 8: Ricky Pearsall. I mean, I'm not rolling anything out here.

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Speaker 5: I get it. The draft is almost over here.

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Speaker 8: Any chance to trade Ayo Conceemi doing the draft is

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Speaker 8: And the other thing is, look, they think their Super

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Speaker 5: So yeah, it is really really odd. I did not

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Speaker 8: I get it in the third receiver, Juwan Jennings is

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Speaker 5: Of three receiver sets. You're on it, Monci.

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Speaker 8: This is a team to watch because one way or

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Speaker 1: Obviously, with the rival of Jim Harbaugh, the Chargers are

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Speaker 1: I thought Joe Alt was a good selection for them.

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Speaker 1: You have a franchise quarterback, you want to protect them.

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Speaker 1: Now they got the bookend tackles with Slater on the

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Speaker 8: here's what I've been told. This was not a high

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Speaker 8: end or elite defensive player class.

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Speaker 5: It wasn't.

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Speaker 8: It was a lot of good players knowing what you

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Speaker 8: call blue chip presspect defensively. The first corner was taken

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Speaker 8: by the Eagles, Quinny On Mitchell. In fact, the fact

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Speaker 8: that Howie Roseman their GM didn't trade up for him

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Speaker 8: was astonishing because he's a guy who he's made eight

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Speaker 8: first round trades since he's been the general Matters since

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Speaker 8: twenty ten. Nobody's done more of them. It's kind of

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Speaker 8: hard to believe. But they didn't even trade up. That

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Speaker 8: tells you this draft was not strong. By the way

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Speaker 8: Dallas Turner, a couple teams told me they consider taking

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Speaker 8: him within the top fifteen. It's just kind of the

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Speaker 8: way the board out the board went, and that by

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Speaker 8: the way, the Minnesota Viking.

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Speaker 5: This trade up to get him at number seventeen.

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Speaker 3: You don't think this is an indication that the league

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Speaker 3: is just moving into a more offensive pro league.

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Speaker 5: Oh it has been for years though, Yeah, it has

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Speaker 5: been for years. Yeah. The talent levels better on offensive. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: ounce with you. It's way better, all right.

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Speaker 1: So, years and years and years ago on my radio show,

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Speaker 1: is I remember this, Bobby Bethard got upset at me

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Speaker 1: when I questioned trading up for Ryan Leaf and where

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Speaker 1: Brian still Yeah some of those Well, he was a

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Speaker 1: big proponent of trading next year's number one for this

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Speaker 1: year number two, which seemed an odd way of approaching

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Speaker 1: the draft. But you know, I remember the San Diego

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Speaker 1: Union tribute giving the Chargers an a plus for Ryan

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Speaker 1: Leif the day after the draft, and I thought to myself,

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Speaker 1: how are we grading a draft the day after the draft.

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Speaker 1: So why my partner and I, Philly, Billy Warndell, we

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Speaker 1: started doing the you know, Billy a long time with

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Speaker 1: the still kicking around, we used to do the draft

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Speaker 1: three years later.

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Speaker 2: We figured after three years.

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Speaker 1: We can legitimately hand out a great as far as

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Speaker 1: a draft is concerned, I'm going to put that aside,

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Speaker 1: at least based on need and where they selected players,

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Speaker 1: which is something you can judge during the draft.

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Speaker 2: Which team do you think did the best so far?

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Speaker 8: I would say that I love the Packers what they did.

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Speaker 8: Getting Jordan Morgan. They addressed to need at left tackle.

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Speaker 8: Potentially he also could play guard. Egean Cooper the best

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Speaker 8: off the ball linebacker for this draft. Javon Bullard one

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Speaker 8: of the best safeties in the draft. In the second round,

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Speaker 8: Marshawn Lloyd the best third down back for this draft,

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Speaker 8: which they could certainly use for the future.

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Speaker 5: I thought he did really really well there. You know.

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Speaker 5: I kind of like what Houston did. Kamari Lassiter.

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Speaker 8: I know they didn't have a first round pick, but

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Speaker 8: he's a guy probably will be a starter.

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Speaker 5: They got Blake Fisher's a guy could play tackle or guard.

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Speaker 5: I like what they did.

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Speaker 8: They got Kate Stiver, who's a very talented ted end

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Speaker 8: of the fourth round, the Raiders.

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Speaker 5: Here's what I like about the Raiders did.

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Speaker 8: They could have gone with the corner, which is in need,

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Speaker 8: but they took the best player available.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: I can't tell you how important that means to me.

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Speaker 8: They didn't need a tight end. They went with Michael Mayer.

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Speaker 8: Last year they won with Brock Bauers, the best player

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Speaker 8: on the board, one of the top three players for

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Speaker 8: this draft. Just take don't worry about what anyone else thinks.

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Speaker 8: Take the best player because Brock Bearers could be one

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Speaker 8: of the best tight ends in football in the next

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Speaker 8: three or four years. And Jackson Powers Johnson the best

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Speaker 8: center for the draft. D Cam Richardson if you're a

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Speaker 8: rated fan listening, super high upside corner, long athletic. And

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Speaker 8: then one of my favorite players for the draft, Dylan

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Speaker 8: Lobby out of New Hampshire. I met Dylan got to

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Speaker 8: Senior Bowl, one of the best players during Senior Bowl practices.

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Speaker 8: He was phenomenal. They got him in the sixth round.

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Speaker 8: Who could be their third down back? So I thought

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Speaker 8: the Raiders did well?

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Speaker 2: All right?

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Speaker 1: So I told Manci that as far as mister Irrelevant

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Speaker 1: is concerned, the obvious pick for the Jets is Sam Hartman.

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Speaker 1: Not just because his name is Hartman, but huh, look,

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Speaker 1: they need some kind of quarterback for the future, right

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Speaker 1: and in a city night like New York, because he's

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Speaker 1: a TikTok sensation. The ladies, you know, with the flowing

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Speaker 1: hair and that forty yard dash he had at the combine.

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Speaker 1: I think Sam Hartman would be the perfect final pick

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Speaker 1: of this draft, which we're not.

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Speaker 8: You don't throw it very well. But Michael Pratt from

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Speaker 8: Tulane who at fourth and fifth round grade from teams,

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Speaker 8: he's still available. It's kind of it's stunning to me. Uh.

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Speaker 5: Sam Hartman is a guy that I.

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Speaker 8: Didn't think would get drafted. He's a gamer, fairly athletic.

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Speaker 8: He just doesn't throw the ball very well. He's but

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Speaker 8: he won the beard game though. He's got the best.

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Speaker 2: Oh he's got the hair man the hair.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, it really does got it man.

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Speaker 1: Not everybody, not every The Brock Party is a once

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Speaker 1: in a million years type of situation.

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Speaker 2: It's not gonna happen again.

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Speaker 1: I know, all right, well, Adham, I know it's been

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Speaker 1: a very busy time for you. We appreciate it, and

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Speaker 1: we'll have plenty of time in the weeks ahead to

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Speaker 1: sort of settle in on the next step that never

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Speaker 1: ends around the National Football League. By the way, what

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Speaker 1: do they end up as far as fans are concerned.

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Speaker 1: He'd tried and I know they set records. What about

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Speaker 1: seven eight, hundred thousand over.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, well I know, I know when they first put

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Speaker 8: it out it was over five hundred and fifty thousand.

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Speaker 5: It's really incredible beating Philly.

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Speaker 8: I was here for the which is just insane, and

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Speaker 8: they love having an outdoors and I believe the weather

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Speaker 8: held up, which is great. Tennessee's one's great in Nashville,

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Speaker 8: in Las Vegas. I was there last year, was phenomenal,

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Speaker 8: and it just gets bigger and bigger. It's it's really

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Speaker 8: remarkable how big the draft is.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we had no cameras in the room with Al

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Speaker 1: Davis and Ron Wolf and Tom Flores when I was there,

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Speaker 1: I no nothing back in the eighties. It was a

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Speaker 1: whole different world out there. All right, Adam, great stuff

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Speaker 1: is always Thanks. We'll talk to you next week. Thank you,

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Speaker 1: Adam Kaplan are Fox Sports Radio, NFL Insider.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's find out what is trending right now.

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Speaker 2: Martin is back. Martin? How you doing double duty every weekend?

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Speaker 5: Now?

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Speaker 2: Pretty much?

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Speaker 9: You know me, I'm versatile. I love that, you know.

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Speaker 9: I like some of these offensive linemen taking it. I

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Speaker 9: could play outside, you can kick me inside. It depends

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Speaker 9: who's on the roster.

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Speaker 2: It is good to see you out there. Well we do.

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Speaker 1: We haven't even gotten to the NBA the playoffs going on.

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Speaker 1: We got baseball, got a lot of things going on.

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Speaker 2: It is a lot going on.

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Speaker 9: First, we'll start with those little sad news. Damian Lillard

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Speaker 9: diagnosed with a gray one achilles strand, doubtful for Game

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Speaker 9: four of the playoffs tomorrow at Indiana. Pacers leading that

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Speaker 9: series two games to one. Cavaliers at the Magic earlier today,

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Speaker 9: Orlando wins one to eleven and eighty nine. Series now

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Speaker 9: tied two games apiece. Going back to Cleveland for Game five.

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Speaker 9: Franz Wagner with thirty four points thirteen rebounds, thunder and

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Speaker 9: the Pelicans down in New Orleans, Oklahoma City wins Game

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Speaker 9: three of that series, one hundred and six to eighty five. Pelicans,

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Speaker 9: thanks for coming out. Celtics under heat about to get

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Speaker 9: started the second quarter in Miami. That series is tied

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Speaker 9: at one apiece. The score right now twenty four to

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Speaker 9: twelve in favor of the one seeded Boston Celtics. Had

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Speaker 9: some drama on the ice earlier today Hurricanes in the

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Speaker 9: Islanders Game four, Carolina, with a three going into the game,

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Speaker 9: had a three to nothing lead on the series. Islanders

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Speaker 9: keep it alive though in double overtime, winning three to two.

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Speaker 9: Obviously now a three to one lead for the Hurricanes.

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Speaker 9: Also in the NHL, the Panthers and the Lightnings. About

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Speaker 9: eight minutes left in the second period, Tampa Bay with

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Speaker 9: a four to two lead over the Panthers, who have

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Speaker 9: a three to nothing lead in the series. And there

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Speaker 9: was a couple of NFL draft trades going on. We

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Speaker 9: are now in the seventh round, and the big name

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Speaker 9: that just came off the board Brendan Rice. Jerry Rice's

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Speaker 9: son is going to USC. I'm sorry. He went to

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Speaker 9: USC for college plays wide receiver. He's going to stay

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Speaker 9: in southern California, going to your Chargers.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so I don't have to suit up. I was

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Speaker 4: getting ready to suit up and be a receiver for

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Speaker 4: the Chargers.

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Speaker 2: I mean you again, Quinn Johnson and Brendan Rice. You

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Speaker 2: still might they still might need a guy in the slots.

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Speaker 4: I can do it. I get I'll get in and

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Speaker 4: out real quick. I'm small.

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Speaker 9: Well before you do that, why don't you host the

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Speaker 9: rest of his radio show?

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Speaker 2: Back to you guys? All right, all right, Martin, thank

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Speaker 2: you very much.

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Speaker 1: Once again, we are coming you alive from the tyrack

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Speaker 1: dot com studios.

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Speaker 2: All right, seventeen picks left in this draft.

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Speaker 4: And all you care about is the party pick.

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Speaker 2: And no one more party than Sam Harton.

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Speaker 1: He is the prettiest out there and he would be

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Speaker 1: the great pick for the Jets. So seventeen picks left

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Speaker 1: in this draft.

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Speaker 2: You never know.

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Speaker 1: I mean, there are so many great stories over the

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Speaker 1: years that I've heard about really late, late, late picks.

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Speaker 1: I keep hearkening back to the day. Imagine when I

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Speaker 1: was working in the NFL in the eighties, we had

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Speaker 1: twelve rounds of the draft.

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Speaker 2: Twelve twelve rounds last a week, and.

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Speaker 1: Before that they had seventeen rounds to the draft, so

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Speaker 1: the draft was lengthy, aer and they've shortened the draft. Well,

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Speaker 1: the same thing with the NBA. We have a two

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Speaker 1: round draft in the NBA. I remember when it was

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Speaker 1: ten rounds, So you know, you would have all these

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Speaker 1: guys selected by these teams, and obviously none of them

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Speaker 1: would ever see the light of day, but you never know.

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Speaker 1: I remember the great story about the Raiders was John

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Speaker 1: Madden was still the coach of the Raiders Oakland Raiders

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Speaker 1: at the time, and they had come down to the

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Speaker 1: final twelfth round of the draft in nineteen seventy seven,

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Speaker 1: and they have two picks in the twelfth round, and honestly,

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Speaker 1: they had run out of names, and one of John Maddens,

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Speaker 1: in fact, it was his best friend, was John Robinson,

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Speaker 1: who at that time.

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Speaker 2: Was the coach at USC.

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Speaker 1: So he calls him and he says, do you have

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Speaker 1: any players that could be drafted that haven't been drafted?

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Speaker 2: Do you think could actually play in the NFL?

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Speaker 1: And he says, well, one guy is this undersized linebacker

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Speaker 1: we have. His name is Rod Martin, and I'm telling

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Speaker 1: you he plays bigger than he is.

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Speaker 2: So the Raiders take him in the twelfth round.

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Speaker 1: They actually released him in training, cap they signed him back,

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Speaker 1: and three years later he intercepted three passes in the

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl to win a Super Bowl championship and eventually

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Speaker 1: became an All Pro. So this is this day, we're

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Speaker 1: seeing all these names coming off the board. It's just

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Speaker 1: sort of this whirlwind of names, most of which we've

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Speaker 1: never heard of before. But someone emerges, as Tom Brady

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Speaker 1: did as a six round pick, as brock Perty did

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Speaker 1: as the last pick in the draft. Just a couple

661
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Speaker 1: of years ago, and this is where the scouts really

662
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Speaker 1: earn their money. It's one thing to pick a guy

663
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Speaker 1: in the first round to even day two not impressive.

664
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Speaker 1: But if you can find players on day three, there

665
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Speaker 1: are more than just filling out a roster that actually

666
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Speaker 1: becomes starters and productive players.

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Speaker 2: That's where you're earn your money.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I always think of Isaiah Pacheco going in the

669
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Speaker 3: seventh round for the Chiefs. Ye, and it's very different than.

670
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Speaker 2: In the NBA.

671
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Speaker 3: In the NBA, it's like you're you're probably not gonna

672
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Speaker 3: find on Nikolaokich.

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Speaker 4: I guess probably not.

674
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Speaker 2: In the second round. Sam Green was the second round.

675
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Speaker 4: But it doesn't happen as often as NFL, you know.

676
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Speaker 3: So every year there's somebody or two or three that

677
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Speaker 3: come out late, and you're right, give it up to

678
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Speaker 3: the scouts on those because it's not impressive if you

679
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Speaker 3: pick somebody right in the first round, and you should

680
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 3: get it right in the first round. And so we'll see,

681
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Speaker 3: we'll see who emerges out of this draft, you know,

682
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Speaker 3: especially now that we're coming to the end of it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I agreed with what Adam said about brock Hours.

684
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Speaker 1: I mean, because yes, you're talking about again taking the

685
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Speaker 1: best player on the board. And this is something that

686
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 1: unfortunately in the latter years of Al Davis was not doing,

687
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:10,520
Speaker 1: where he was taking guys out of context. And I'm

688
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:14,719
Speaker 1: just a big believer again, you know, especially at the

689
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Speaker 1: top half of the first round, you've got to take

690
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Speaker 1: the best players, yeah, even if they don't fit later.

691
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Speaker 1: And when again, when we talk about the Packers, when

692
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 1: they took Aaron Rodgers obviously had no need for a quarterback.

693
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:30,640
Speaker 1: He still had Brett Favron his prime. But they were like,

694
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 1: we have this guy projected as the best quarterback in

695
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:36,880
Speaker 1: this draft, and he's still on the board in the twenties.

696
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:38,720
Speaker 1: We've got to take him.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's strategy mixed with logic at a certain point.

698
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Speaker 3: And so yeah, I agree. I agreed with a Him

699
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 3: as well on that pick.

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Speaker 2: All right, so now your team is the Chargers.

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Speaker 4: That is yes, Why do you say it like that?

702
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:53,720
Speaker 2: I like what the Chargers did, ye see, I think that.

703
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Speaker 3: They I think that they show at Yes, that was

704
00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:02,520
Speaker 3: the correct logical choice in the moment, the emotional choice.

705
00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:04,800
Speaker 2: Jim Harbour wants to run the ball. Yes, have you

706
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:05,720
Speaker 2: never paid attention?

707
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Speaker 6: Right?

708
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Speaker 3: But that kind of also makes me want I want

709
00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:12,520
Speaker 3: Justin Herbert to do his thing and I want him

710
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:14,560
Speaker 3: to throw the ball, you know. But yes, it was

711
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:19,720
Speaker 3: the right choice protection for Justin Herbert matters, I get it.

712
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 3: I still wanted the flashy choice, you know, Molik Neighbors,

713
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:24,040
Speaker 3: I wanted that.

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Speaker 4: Call me crazy, but it was the right logical choice.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I know it would have been interesting if the

716
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 1: Chargers had taken the leak Neighbors, because everyone was buzzing

717
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 1: about the Giants maybe taking a quarter which did not

718
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Speaker 1: make sense to me at all.

719
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Speaker 2: I was years ago. You saw enough.

720
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Speaker 1: Out of Daniel Jones to give him the huge contract extension.

721
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:45,800
Speaker 1: He took a step back, but there are a number

722
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Speaker 1: of reasons for that. But this cam's down to Brian

723
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 1: Dabelert coach. I mean, he's the quarterback whisperer. You have

724
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 1: to ask him, do you still believe in Daniel Jones?

725
00:32:55,920 --> 00:33:03,080
Speaker 1: Apparently the answer was yes. But if they Chargers had

726
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 1: taken Neighbors, would they have taken Joe alt Or maybe

727
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:09,240
Speaker 1: the Giants would have gone in a different.

728
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Speaker 3: Direction because they also could have used Joe alt Or

729
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:13,720
Speaker 3: any team could use it.

730
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Speaker 2: Joel. But I mean, if he turns out to be

731
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Speaker 2: another Joe Thomas.

732
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it would have been interesting, or maybe

733
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:22,840
Speaker 3: they would have gone for a quarterback at that point.

734
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Speaker 4: Who knows what they were thinking.

735
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Speaker 2: It's a domino thing.

736
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Speaker 1: The top four picks went exactly as everyone predictive from

737
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Speaker 1: day one. And this is something again every single year

738
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Speaker 1: we get into the draft those last couple of weeks,

739
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Speaker 1: he start throwing out all these hot rumors and it

740
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Speaker 1: ends up being at the top what you expected to be,

741
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Speaker 1: just like it was last year, you know, with Bryce Young,

742
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 1: you know Stroud and then Anderson. That's what everyone had

743
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:52,840
Speaker 1: said it was going to be before the draft and

744
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Speaker 1: then exactly played out all right. Coming up on the

745
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Speaker 1: other side, there was another football story that happened this week.

746
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Speaker 1: Justice was finally served. We'll explain. This is Fox Sports Saturday.

747
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748
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749
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:14,799
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750
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Speaker 6: listen live.

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Speaker 1: Steve Harman and Monsie Belania is here Fox Sports Saturday.

752
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Speaker 2: We are down to the last twelve picks.

753
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 1: By the way, Michael Pratt the quarterback added Tull Lane

754
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 1: quarterback that Adam Kaplan told us about was just taken

755
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:31,880
Speaker 1: in the seventh round by.

756
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 2: The Green Bay Packers.

757
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:38,280
Speaker 1: Oh okay, so, by the way, USC has had three

758
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 1: players taken in the seventh round.

759
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Speaker 2: So they're rating the USC roster at the end of

760
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Speaker 2: this draft.

761
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Speaker 1: But twelve more picks and then we will have this

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Speaker 1: draft in the books for twenty twenty four. Once again,

763
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Speaker 1: we're here at the tire rack dot Com. We're brought

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Speaker 1: to live from the tire rack dot Com studios. I

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Speaker 1: want to mention this story because it really surprised me

766
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,239
Speaker 1: and I could have been more thrilled. And that was

767
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:05,919
Speaker 1: the announcement, and it came very very early in the morning.

768
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:07,880
Speaker 4: Yes, like five in the morning. Arts, I'm here in

769
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Speaker 4: La Yeah, it.

770
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Speaker 1: Was really early in the morning that the Heisman Trust

771
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Speaker 1: announced that Reggie Bush was going to get his Heisman

772
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Speaker 1: trophy back. And what does that mean, Well, it means

773
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:23,440
Speaker 1: quite a few things. Great picture by the way of

774
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Speaker 1: Reggie Bush surrounded by about eleven other former Heisman winners,

775
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:32,920
Speaker 1: some old, some new. Also obviously, he said all the

776
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:35,080
Speaker 1: right things about how grateful he is to get his

777
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Speaker 1: Heisman back. By the way, USC gets their Heisman back.

778
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Speaker 1: If you don't know this. Every year, two Heisman Trophies

779
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Speaker 1: are made. One is given to the university, one is

780
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Speaker 1: given to the player, And that now officially means USC

781
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:50,440
Speaker 1: has more Heisman Trophy winners than any other school. They

782
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Speaker 1: have eight, So they now break that tie with several

783
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:56,080
Speaker 1: other schools. And this has just been the right thing

784
00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 1: to do. My problem almost from the get go with

785
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Speaker 1: this story, and this is a bigger thing to me

786
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 1: when it comes about penalties on teams that are involved

787
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 1: in some kind of infractions. Look, taking away victories or

788
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:17,560
Speaker 1: statistics doesn't make sense to me. If you want to

789
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 1: penalize a team in terms of scholarships, you know, towards

790
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 1: the future, that makes sense. But going back in time

791
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:29,400
Speaker 1: and taking wins off the books, games that have been played,

792
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:32,279
Speaker 1: or stats out of the book, that just never made sense.

793
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:34,719
Speaker 1: And I'll give you an example Major League Baseball with

794
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:38,600
Speaker 1: the scandal involved in the Houston Astros. The Astro they

795
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:41,759
Speaker 1: didn't take away their World Series win.

796
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:42,600
Speaker 10: No.

797
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 1: And also when we talk about players busted for peds,

798
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:51,240
Speaker 1: they didn't take their stats off the books.

799
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:53,239
Speaker 2: Now, how do they get penalized.

800
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 1: Well, the baseball writers have been penalized in a lot

801
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:58,040
Speaker 1: of players by not putting them in the Hall of Fame.

802
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:02,440
Speaker 1: And the Astros twenty seventeen World Series win is always

803
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:06,400
Speaker 1: going to be tainted, oh forever, So it always stand

804
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 1: as a tainted World Series, but you don't eliminate it.

805
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 1: The Astros won the World Series, they cheated to win

806
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 1: the World Series, and it stands as is. So this

807
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:18,239
Speaker 1: was the right thing to do for the Heisman Trust.

808
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:20,120
Speaker 1: I know they were excited. I know people of the

809
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:22,960
Speaker 1: Heisman Trust. I had talked to people about this. Their

810
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:25,839
Speaker 1: frustration was is that the reason that we had kept

811
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 1: the Heisman out of his hands is that the NCAA

812
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:31,719
Speaker 1: had eliminated all his stats that year. So according to

813
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 1: the NCAA, he didn't play that year, and that's why

814
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 1: we did it.

815
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Speaker 5: Well.

816
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:36,840
Speaker 2: They weren't going to wait for the NCAA.

817
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:39,320
Speaker 1: They could read the writing on the wall with the

818
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 1: emergence of Nil and everything else. So Reggie Bush back

819
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:46,759
Speaker 1: where he belongs, part of the Heisman fraternity.

820
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 3: It was about about damn time. In the words of Lizzo,

821
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:53,719
Speaker 3: about damn time, because there were so many things.

822
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 4: I agree with you. Why are we racing the pass now?

823
00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 4: I wanted the Astros to.

824
00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:00,879
Speaker 3: Have to give up that championship becase I'm Dodgers fan,

825
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:02,759
Speaker 3: so of course I wanted that.

826
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 4: But I hear totally what you're saying.

827
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:07,960
Speaker 3: You can't erase the past it happened, but you can't

828
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 3: penalize them for the future, and it actually is effective.

829
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:10,839
Speaker 10: Right.

830
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:15,239
Speaker 3: What Reggie Bush was penalized for was something to me

831
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:18,440
Speaker 3: that was so ridiculous because Lebron James was driving out

832
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 3: Hummer in high school.

833
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:23,759
Speaker 4: So you're telling me that he was the only player that.

834
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:26,880
Speaker 3: Was getting any benefits and it was his family, it

835
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 3: was his parents, it wasn't even him.

836
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:31,719
Speaker 4: It was something so so ridiculous.

837
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 3: And I was also so happy because throughout the years

838
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 3: we've heard him say that he wanted it back, Like

839
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:39,799
Speaker 3: if he didn't care, then it's different, right, But he

840
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 3: did care. He wanted that back, and so it was

841
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 3: about damn time. Even Johnny Manziel recently remember he was like,

842
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 3: I'm not going to go to any more of these

843
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:51,360
Speaker 3: events anymore until everything is stored and back to what

844
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 3: it should be. Reggie Bush getting his Heisman trophy back.

845
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 2: I interviewed Barry Sanders.

846
00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 1: I interviewed a number of Heisman winners over the years

847
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,800
Speaker 1: since Bush got his heisman taken away, and I'd always

848
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 1: ask him the same question. I'd say, all right, let's

849
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 1: say you're hanging out in the Heisman House, Yeah, the

850
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:09,560
Speaker 1: Fictionary Heisman House, and there's a knock on the door, and.

851
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 2: It's Reggie Bush at the door. Do you let him in?

852
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 1: Obviously, every single Heisman winner said, whether he physically has

853
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:21,879
Speaker 1: a Heisman or not does not matter to us.

854
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 2: He is always one of us. He will always be

855
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:25,319
Speaker 2: one of us.

856
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 1: And that gathering, that picture with all those former Heisman winners,

857
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 1: it's a very tight fraternity. That's very exclusive company to

858
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:36,880
Speaker 1: be in, that Heisman family.

859
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 2: And now Reggie Bush is there.

860
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:41,480
Speaker 1: And by the way, just going back, his stepfather really

861
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:44,160
Speaker 1: was the instigator here. And if you forget the story,

862
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 1: basically what happened was he made a deal with these

863
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 1: guys who were trying to become Reggie Bush's agent of

864
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 1: the future. And then as Reggie Bush was obviously maybe

865
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:55,920
Speaker 1: the first or second pick in the draft, the father

866
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:58,839
Speaker 1: renegged on his promise as these guys had helped him

867
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 1: out with this house, and these were the guys that

868
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 1: blew the whistle. I still maintain, even though Reggie Bush

869
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:06,839
Speaker 1: has never said this, maybe to the protection of his parents.

870
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:08,880
Speaker 2: I don't he ever had any clue.

871
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 4: I don't either.

872
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:12,080
Speaker 1: I think that is if he had any questions, the

873
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 1: step fatherly goes not a big deal, don't or you

874
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:19,240
Speaker 1: just go out and play football. Yeah, and so everything handled.

875
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 1: It was beautiful. It was great to say.

876
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 4: It was just about down time.

877
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:26,799
Speaker 1: So yes, now we had Heisman Trophy winners go one

878
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:29,720
Speaker 1: two in this draft. I haven't even had very quickly

879
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Speaker 1: here Jade and Daniels versus Caleb Williams.

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Speaker 2: Who's going to have a better career. I want you

881
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:37,400
Speaker 2: on the record right now.

882
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 3: Well that's not fair because Caleb Williams is now surrounded

883
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 3: by so many weapons. So the logical answer would be

884
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Speaker 3: to say, Caleb Williams, they have set them up for

885
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:45,320
Speaker 3: major success.

886
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:47,560
Speaker 1: Even if the Bears haven't had a really great quarterback

887
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 1: in oh I don't know forever.

888
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 3: I know, I know, but I feel like that is

889
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:53,960
Speaker 3: the logical answer.

890
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Speaker 4: And I don't like logic.

891
00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 1: All right, you need some logic about your clippers and

892
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:02,160
Speaker 1: a lot more going out with these NBA playoffs.

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Speaker 1: buying should be. Six picks left in the draft.

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Speaker 4: Ooh, coming down to the final stretch.

902
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:31,839
Speaker 1: Actually, now five picks work in the draft, so we're

903
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Speaker 1: coming down the stretch.

904
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Speaker 2: Jets will have the mister irrelevant pick.

905
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Speaker 1: They pick the party pick now coming up at number

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Speaker 1: two fifty seven in this year's NFL draft. Very exciting

907
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:45,040
Speaker 1: day for a lot of young men that have I'm

908
00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:49,360
Speaker 1: sure been dreaming of this day to come. Last Sunday,

909
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:53,440
Speaker 1: I went back to Rich Ornberger. I overplayed Rich's importance

910
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:55,880
Speaker 1: in the draft of two thousand and nine. He was

911
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 1: a fourth round pick of the New England Patriots at

912
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Speaker 1: the height of their power, and as I said, the

913
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:03,440
Speaker 1: most historic draft ever because of the.

914
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:04,719
Speaker 2: Drafting of rich Ornberger.

915
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 1: But even for a fourth round or fifth rounding, even

916
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:09,600
Speaker 1: those that are being named here in the seventh round,

917
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:11,839
Speaker 1: just to see your name on the board. With all

918
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Speaker 1: the coverage of the NFL Draft associated with the National

919
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:18,760
Speaker 1: Football League is a huge thrill for these young guys.

920
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:19,239
Speaker 4: It really is.

921
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:22,720
Speaker 3: It's exciting to see you day one, all those players

922
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 3: with their families waiting for their name to be called.

923
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:27,960
Speaker 3: Like you said, the first four when in the order

924
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:30,759
Speaker 3: everyone expected. But aside from those guys, everybody else is

925
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:32,720
Speaker 3: kind of waiting right at the edge of their seats

926
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 3: like they really don't know. Will Levis we saw last

927
00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:39,640
Speaker 3: year sack through the entire day and didn't get called,

928
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:42,120
Speaker 3: which is an awful feeling, I can only assume.

929
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:44,719
Speaker 4: But getting your name called must.

930
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:49,160
Speaker 3: Be one of the coolest moments, something that you probably

931
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Speaker 3: can't even describe.

932
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 4: You have to go through it.

933
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:54,719
Speaker 1: How about this, The Chargers just picked at fifth the

934
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:56,920
Speaker 1: last pick of the draft, Cornelius Johnson.

935
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Speaker 2: There, we played for Jim Harbaugh at Michigan's.

936
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Speaker 1: One of those this is one of those where all right,

937
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 1: I mean, we need wide receiver help. Obviously, the Chargers

938
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:09,600
Speaker 1: lost all the wide receivers, so they definitely need wide

939
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:12,680
Speaker 1: receiver help. But yeah, Jim Harbaugh maybe doing a favorite

940
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:15,439
Speaker 1: a young man that played for him at Michigan helped

941
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:18,560
Speaker 1: him win a national championship. Second leading receiver from Michigan

942
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:20,640
Speaker 1: a year ago and now he can say I was

943
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:24,879
Speaker 1: drafted in the NFL. So Cornelius Johnson, wide receiver out

944
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 1: of Michigan is going to the Los Angeles Chargers. All right,

945
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:30,400
Speaker 1: so we got all this draft talk going on, But

946
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 1: in the midst of all this, we also have the

947
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Speaker 1: NBA playoffs.

948
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:35,640
Speaker 2: I'm going to start with the Lakers.

949
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:40,399
Speaker 1: Okay, why Well, because the Lakers have a guy named

950
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:45,400
Speaker 1: Lebron James. They have Anthony Davis playing at a high level.

951
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 1: In fact, when you started the season, if you had

952
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:51,800
Speaker 1: said that both those guys would play at least seventy

953
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:55,240
Speaker 1: games in the regular season back, Anthony Davis played I believe,

954
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:58,239
Speaker 1: seventy six games out of eighty two if you had

955
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Speaker 1: said that. With the way they played at the end

956
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 1: of last year getting to the Western Conference finals, re

957
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 1: signed really Hatchamura. You know, obviously d Lo was going

958
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:12,080
Speaker 1: to be coming back. Austin Reeves had suddenly proven that

959
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:13,879
Speaker 1: he could play at a high level in this league.

960
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:16,320
Speaker 1: I'd say that the Lakers had a pretty good shot

961
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Speaker 1: of being at least a top four seed in the

962
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Speaker 1: Western Conference. Instead, they needed a play and win just

963
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 1: to get into the playoffs. And now for the second

964
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:30,719
Speaker 1: consecutive year, they could be swept out by the Denver Nuggets.

965
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:35,840
Speaker 1: So the question for the Lakers is this, because I've

966
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:40,239
Speaker 1: heard some people make the argument when there are a

967
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Speaker 1: lot of people like my son Garrett, who he wants

968
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:45,719
Speaker 1: to blow this whole thing up, I cantand like he says,

969
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:48,279
Speaker 1: I want to trade Anthony Davis, like he has high

970
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:51,440
Speaker 1: trade value, trade him five first round picks. Whatever we

971
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 1: need to blow this up. And of course, remember Lebron

972
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:58,319
Speaker 1: James has a player option this year, and if he

973
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 1: decides he wants to stay with the Lake, he will

974
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Speaker 1: be with the Lakers. If he wants to hesitate seeing

975
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:04,920
Speaker 1: what the rest of the makeup of the roster be,

976
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:08,239
Speaker 1: that could change. But some people are just making the

977
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 1: argument that don't judge the Lakers on this series against

978
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:15,719
Speaker 1: the Nuggets. For whatever reason, they don't match up with

979
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:18,839
Speaker 1: the Nuggets. They've had a double digit lead in each

980
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:21,400
Speaker 1: of these three games at some point and in the

981
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:24,720
Speaker 1: end the Nuggets run away from them. But their argument

982
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:29,880
Speaker 1: is they can compete against anybody else. And my thought,

983
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:32,560
Speaker 1: as a person that has followed the Lakers, rooted for

984
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:36,799
Speaker 1: the Lakers throughout most of my life, is you need

985
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:40,760
Speaker 1: to be a championship team to even register in Laker history.

986
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 1: Kobe Bryant told me that many many times, two greats

987
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:48,759
Speaker 1: A and F. Either you win the championship or you don't.

988
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:52,319
Speaker 1: There's no bonus points or losing in the NBA Finals

989
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:55,200
Speaker 1: or getting to the conference fight, none of that. That's

990
00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:59,480
Speaker 1: the same as losing every game you didn't win a championship.

991
00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:04,520
Speaker 1: The question is what standard are you using to determine

992
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:08,800
Speaker 1: what direction the Lakers are going if indeed this series

993
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:10,120
Speaker 1: ends tonight.

994
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:12,919
Speaker 3: The direction that they're going in is not a good one.

995
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:14,560
Speaker 3: And unfortunately, I don't.

996
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:15,440
Speaker 4: Know how you fix it.

997
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:19,240
Speaker 3: If you keep both Lebron and Ad it's not working.

998
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:22,640
Speaker 4: I don't know what's happening in the locker room, but

999
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:23,840
Speaker 4: it's not working.

1000
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:27,040
Speaker 3: And to say, do not judge them on this series, no,

1001
00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:29,279
Speaker 3: I'm going to We are in the playoffs.

1002
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:31,040
Speaker 4: This is when everybody steps up.

1003
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:33,839
Speaker 3: Look at the Orlando Magic blowing out the Cavs last

1004
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:34,440
Speaker 3: two games.

1005
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:35,920
Speaker 4: It is the playoffs.

1006
00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:39,359
Speaker 3: If you cannot hold a double digit lead three games

1007
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:41,800
Speaker 3: in a row, that's your problem.

1008
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:43,800
Speaker 4: And also good job to the other team.

1009
00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:48,840
Speaker 3: I I based on this series, it looks to me

1010
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:53,359
Speaker 3: like they are not in sync and there is no.

1011
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:55,160
Speaker 4: Quote unquote culture.

1012
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:59,399
Speaker 3: We keep hearing that word with certain teams Miami Heat

1013
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:02,719
Speaker 3: great quote, which you're literally beat Boston in Boston for

1014
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:05,239
Speaker 3: Game two right now, they're not when in Miami. But

1015
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 3: they also don't have my boy Jimmy Butler, who I

1016
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:07,759
Speaker 3: love so much.

1017
00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:11,239
Speaker 1: Uh whoahoa, whoa aren't they gonna puzzle? Then talk about

1018
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:14,239
Speaker 1: Jimmy Butler, who's watching this game. He's in a hair

1019
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:14,920
Speaker 1: style for.

1020
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:19,520
Speaker 3: Yes, it's two little ponytails, two little puffy ponytails that

1021
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:21,719
Speaker 3: I am just like, how do you not love that?

1022
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:22,000
Speaker 10: Man?

1023
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:25,480
Speaker 4: How do you not love that? Man? I do? Okay?

1024
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:31,320
Speaker 3: Anyway, Yes, the culture doesn't seem to exist with the Lakers.

1025
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:33,840
Speaker 3: How is it that in the last game Lebron loses

1026
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:36,680
Speaker 3: the ball off his knee and looks at his teammate

1027
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 3: and basically blames this or it looks to us on

1028
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:43,719
Speaker 3: TV like you're blaming your teammate D'Angelo Russell not even

1029
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:47,240
Speaker 3: part of the team huddle. That looks like there's no culture,

1030
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 3: like there's no respect, like they're not on the same team.

1031
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:52,200
Speaker 3: When you watch a ridiculous show, have you ever watched

1032
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:56,520
Speaker 3: any like what's Terry McBride, No, that's is that a player?

1033
00:47:56,640 --> 00:48:00,160
Speaker 4: The actor? Hold on McBride, what's his name? Jehan mcbrin, Right,

1034
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:02,960
Speaker 4: is that his name? The actor? He's like, so I'll

1035
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:03,360
Speaker 4: look it up.

1036
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:06,320
Speaker 3: Any like ridiculous show like what we Do in the Shadows?

1037
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:07,840
Speaker 4: Have you heard of that show about the vampires?

1038
00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 2: I watched the Food Network?

1039
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:13,160
Speaker 3: Okay, so anytime there's some ridiculous show and you watch

1040
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:15,799
Speaker 3: it and you're like, why does this work? Because they're

1041
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:18,719
Speaker 3: all believing they're in the same universe. You have to

1042
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:23,200
Speaker 3: all believe in the same thing. They seem to believe

1043
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:23,919
Speaker 3: in the same thing.

1044
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:26,480
Speaker 1: Well, and that comes down to coaching. What is the

1045
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:29,640
Speaker 1: purpose of a coach? Well with what is the purchase?

1046
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:32,480
Speaker 1: But that's now. You just brought up Lebron.

1047
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:33,520
Speaker 2: So this is the thing.

1048
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:37,520
Speaker 1: Whether it was Frank Vogel or Darvin Ham, it doesn't

1049
00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:42,640
Speaker 1: matter because this is Lebron James's team. You have given

1050
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:47,239
Speaker 1: him full control of this game. The deals that they

1051
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:51,760
Speaker 1: made after winning the championship have been counterproductive. The Russell

1052
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:54,839
Speaker 1: Westbrook trade was a disaster.

1053
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:56,319
Speaker 4: And how they didn't see that from the beginning is

1054
00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:56,719
Speaker 4: beyond me.

1055
00:48:56,840 --> 00:48:59,520
Speaker 2: You took away key role players.

1056
00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:01,640
Speaker 4: Right, in other places exactly so.

1057
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:04,120
Speaker 1: And by the way, Malik Monk a runner up for

1058
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:06,799
Speaker 1: six Man of the Year this year. So they've been

1059
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:09,960
Speaker 1: making personnel moves. Whether Lebron wants to admit or not,

1060
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:11,960
Speaker 1: he's the guy calling all the shots.

1061
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:14,440
Speaker 2: And so this is the dilemma.

1062
00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:18,520
Speaker 1: Because it's his option this year whether or not he

1063
00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:21,080
Speaker 1: wants to remain with the Lakers. He's publicly stated he

1064
00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:23,640
Speaker 1: doesn't want to go anywhere at this point of his career.

1065
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:26,799
Speaker 1: He wants to stay with the Laker organization. Obviously, you

1066
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:29,840
Speaker 1: got Anthony Davis under contract. Delo is a walk away

1067
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:30,759
Speaker 1: free agent.

1068
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:32,520
Speaker 4: And it looks like he's ready to walk.

1069
00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:35,799
Speaker 1: Zero points in Game three after hitting seven threes in

1070
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:40,200
Speaker 1: game number two. And then Darvin Ham, who was reacting

1071
00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:42,440
Speaker 1: to what was a direct shot at him and the

1072
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:44,920
Speaker 1: coaching staff by Anthony Davis after Game two.

1073
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:46,400
Speaker 2: I mean, that was the Tobacca.

1074
00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:48,560
Speaker 1: How do you blow a twenty point leading four in

1075
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:53,239
Speaker 1: the third quarter unless you try, And you know, he said,

1076
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:56,160
Speaker 1: there are times when we don't have any clue of

1077
00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:57,879
Speaker 1: what we're doing on either end of the court.

1078
00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:00,239
Speaker 2: Well, that's a direct shot of the co coach.

1079
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:03,279
Speaker 1: And then Darvin Hand's reaction was, well, he just said

1080
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:04,479
Speaker 1: something in the heat of the moment.

1081
00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:07,160
Speaker 2: He doesn't really mean that. Now, actually he does really

1082
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:07,560
Speaker 2: mean that.

1083
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:11,200
Speaker 3: But it's always someone else's fault, right like after the

1084
00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:15,279
Speaker 3: game where Lebron pushed off, pushed off, went for that

1085
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:18,600
Speaker 3: wide open three and missed. How is Lebron at the

1086
00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:21,359
Speaker 3: end blaming the rest. You had a wide open three,

1087
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:24,000
Speaker 3: my guy, and if this is your team, you should

1088
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:24,440
Speaker 3: have made that.

1089
00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:26,359
Speaker 4: You should have made that shot.

1090
00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:29,640
Speaker 2: There are several teams in these playoffs.

1091
00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:34,160
Speaker 1: If you haven't noticed the direction that this league is going, well,

1092
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:35,960
Speaker 1: we'll point out on the other side. By the way,

1093
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:38,080
Speaker 1: Mark Madina, our NBA insider, is going to join us

1094
00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:40,560
Speaker 1: later on in this hour as well. But there is

1095
00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:46,000
Speaker 1: a definite trend in this league that's undeniable in terms

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Speaker 2: And now to get a little deeper into what's going on.

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Speaker 1: In these first round matchups in the NBA Playoffs, is

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Speaker 1: our Fox Sports Radio NBA insider Mark Medina joining us

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Speaker 1: once again.

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Speaker 2: So Mark, I want to start with the Phoenix.

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Speaker 1: Sun for a second here, because I've been spending some

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Speaker 1: time in Phoenix recently and they are absolutely livid at

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Speaker 1: how they broke up a good thing, a team that

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Speaker 1: won sixty four games two years ago, to the debacle

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Speaker 1: they have right now with three shooters, no depth, no chemistry,

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Speaker 1: and a team that could very well get swept out

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Speaker 1: of the first round of the playoffs. This idea of

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Speaker 1: putting three superstars together in terms of winning a championship,

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Speaker 1: Ye are those days over.

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Speaker 10: It's a wild puzzle for the Sons to figure out

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Speaker 10: because we saw the radio on the wall when they

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Speaker 10: decided to go on in and do this three superstar

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Speaker 10: concept of what is it going to be for their health,

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Speaker 10: what's it going to be for their depth? And ironically enough,

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Speaker 10: there's never been personality conflicts of the chemistry is there,

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Speaker 10: but when you don't have enough time to actually get

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Speaker 10: that chemistry because of their health and not enough depth.

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Speaker 10: You know, they have some good role players, but clearly

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Speaker 10: not enough to match Minnesota. This is what we have,

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Speaker 10: This is what you get. But I think the troubling

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Speaker 10: thing is is I don't know how they get their

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Speaker 10: way out of this. They're kind of sunk so deep

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Speaker 10: into it. They've already made a coaching changer Jane frank Bogel,

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Speaker 10: they already have money tied down, and because of what's

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Speaker 10: been happening with the Suns, it would be hard for

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Speaker 10: me to envision there being many buyers. So no doubt.

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Speaker 10: Knowing how mad ishb is a is an I would

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Speaker 10: suspect there's changes to be made that how he executes

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Speaker 10: that that remains to be Hi, Mark, thanks for hanging

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Speaker 10: out with us, Hi as thanks for having me as always.

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Speaker 3: So speaking of how do you fix this? How do

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Speaker 3: you get out of it? The Lakers, Mark, I hate

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Speaker 3: you know, I may be enjoying it a little too

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Speaker 3: much as a Clippers fan, but I was just saying

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Speaker 3: to Steve that as a as a basketball spectator, it

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Speaker 3: looks like there's just no culture in that locker room.

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Speaker 4: It looks like everybody is on a different page.

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Speaker 3: Am I am I off by by That's just what

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Speaker 3: I see, Am I off No, I.

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Speaker 10: Think you're onto something. Monster. I think that that Lakers

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Speaker 10: do have a culture, but the culture only works when

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Speaker 10: things are going well. I mean, it obviously starts with

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Speaker 10: Lebron James Anthony Davis, and they've been playing at an

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Speaker 10: incredibly elite level this season. Mostly been healthy, Mostly I've

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Speaker 10: been matching what we've seen in other seasons, but the

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Speaker 10: inconsistency elsewhere has been very bad, you know, when it

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Speaker 10: comes to their supporting cast. Now, Darvin Ham's managed things,

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Speaker 10: and so I think that there's always been the right

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Speaker 10: intentions with this season, but as we've seen this first

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Speaker 10: round series, they haven't been able to rely on that.

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Speaker 10: And I think that ever since Game two, when Jamal

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Speaker 10: Murray hit that game winner to steal game is steal

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Speaker 10: the game, it feels like the team has just been

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Speaker 10: completely lost and lifeless. Yeah, And so while we did see, yeah,

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Speaker 10: the Lakers had a good effort Game three, they were

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Speaker 10: up by twelve points and then yet again, they squadered

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Speaker 10: the double digit lead. It did feel like the tenor

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Speaker 10: of the series really changed since that Game two loss.

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Speaker 2: Well, and that brings up the question of what's their

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Speaker 2: next move Now.

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Speaker 1: I have to say, Mark, I have a son who

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Speaker 1: is a guy that lives in Breeze, the Laker base basketball.

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Speaker 1: He wants to blow this team up, completely obliterate it.

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Speaker 1: He wants to trade Anthony Davis. He says his stock

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Speaker 1: is at a sky high because he was healthy this year,

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Speaker 1: and he goes based on some of these other trades

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Speaker 1: I've seen, he get five first round picks for him,

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Speaker 1: start over, get rid of Lebron. They're not gonna go

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Speaker 1: any further for this, but they do have to figure

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Speaker 1: out what's gonna happen the fate of two guys. One

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Speaker 1: is D'Angelo russ who has a player option for just

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Speaker 1: eighteen million. I'm gonna guess that D'Angel Russell, who's gonna

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Speaker 1: opt out and try to test the free agent market.

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Speaker 2: And then what does Lebron do? I mean, Lebron is

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Speaker 2: calling the shots here. Let's make no mistake about that.

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Speaker 1: He's called the shots on every team he's ever played for.

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Speaker 1: If this season ends tonight and they get swept out

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Speaker 1: again by the Denver Nuggets. Does he have faith in

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Speaker 1: the future being a Laker that he can make a

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Speaker 1: serious run for another NBA championship.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, it's a fair question whether they stay faith and

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Speaker 10: force the game five to nine or the sea is over.

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Speaker 10: I don't think it fundamentally changes the complexity of the

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Speaker 10: questions that you outline now. To be clear, I don't

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Speaker 10: think that Lebron James and the Lakers are going to

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Speaker 10: end their partnership. And while the easy answer for why

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Speaker 10: is you know the business end and you know the

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Speaker 10: Lakers are used to having star power on their franchises,

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Speaker 10: even when you know their past their prime, I think

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Speaker 10: it also comes from a pragmatic lens that their skepticism

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Speaker 10: that they could even make the best of a trade

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Speaker 10: and with them because of where he's at in his career.

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Speaker 10: But that I think leads to the also and fog

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Speaker 10: in the road of what they've had to wrestle with

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Speaker 10: last season. Do they put their chips in for a

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Speaker 10: third star or do they try to do the continuity route?

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Speaker 10: And I think because of what we saw this past playoffs,

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Speaker 10: I think the conclusion is they're going to make changes,

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Speaker 10: but that doesn't mean they'll do the third star. I

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Speaker 10: think that when we've been looking at this philosophical discussion

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Speaker 10: last year, it wasn't about what preference the Lakers have.

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Speaker 10: It was more of what the options were available. And

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Speaker 10: so I think one of the reasons why the Lakers

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Speaker 10: went against the third star route was because there's just

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Speaker 10: a skepticism with Kyrie Irving because of his unpredictable nature

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Speaker 10: that he's shown in past seasons. I think that conversation

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Speaker 10: might change depending on who is available this summer because

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Speaker 10: they have more draft picks at their disposal. But you know,

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Speaker 10: when the low hanging fruit option about Trey Young comes

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Speaker 10: to mind, I think that the Lakers might guard against

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Speaker 10: that because we've seen with Trey Young he is a

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Speaker 10: great player, but he doesn't exactly lead the winning basketball.

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Speaker 10: So there's a lot of things to untangle here. And

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Speaker 10: I think the ironic part, no doubt Lebron has influence

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Speaker 10: with the franchise than he is who he is. But

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Speaker 10: when you look at the track record of moves they

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Speaker 10: have and have it made since the Russell Westbrook trade,

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Speaker 10: they've act actually gone against what Lebron has wanted. So

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Speaker 10: while Lebron will always have some degree of influence. I

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Speaker 10: think that they have learned the lesson with us that

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Speaker 10: they're going to make the decisions, whether they are good

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Speaker 10: decisions or not, but the decisions that they are making

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Speaker 10: independent of him. But regardless of that, there's a lot

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Speaker 10: of complex things that they have to unpack this season,

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Speaker 10: and it's certainly not going to be easy.

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Speaker 3: Mark helped me unpacked what my unpack what my Clippers

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00:58:29,480 --> 00:58:33,680
Speaker 3: have done. I don't understand why Kawhi Leonard played game two.

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Speaker 3: He seems to not be one hundred percent. We were

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00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:41,680
Speaker 3: in a groove game one, comes to play Game two,

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Speaker 3: doesn't seem one hundred percent. Comes game three, it's certain

1241
00:58:45,240 --> 00:58:47,960
Speaker 3: he's not one hundred percent. Why did we rush him

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Speaker 3: back on the court. Help me understand that?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, lasta I've been wrestling with that myself. I mean,

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Speaker 10: we're I'm always humbled because the Clippers aren't really transparent

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Speaker 10: with exact information.

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Speaker 4: You don't.

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Speaker 10: But it did scratch my head that tylu Is saying

1248
00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:08,000
Speaker 10: flippantly that game two was his contact practice, like usually

1249
00:59:08,120 --> 00:59:13,600
Speaker 10: used contact practice for actually a practice setting. But I

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00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:16,200
Speaker 10: think that they concluded based off of what the medical

1251
00:59:16,240 --> 00:59:20,120
Speaker 10: staff told him, was that it was relatively healed enough,

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00:59:20,160 --> 00:59:23,080
Speaker 10: fully healed enough that they didn't feel that they were

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00:59:23,480 --> 00:59:26,880
Speaker 10: putting him out in a dangerous situation. But as we've

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Speaker 10: seen with Kawhi Leonard, with his injury history, it's always

1255
00:59:30,680 --> 00:59:34,440
Speaker 10: fluid day to day, and so with Game three, you know,

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00:59:34,520 --> 00:59:37,040
Speaker 10: he played limited minutes. He was struggling to find a rhythm,

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Speaker 10: and I think it's telling that he's questionable already for

1258
00:59:40,360 --> 00:59:44,760
Speaker 10: Game four tomorrow. They're really losing any opportunity for him

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00:59:44,760 --> 00:59:47,600
Speaker 10: to get actual practice to build a rhythm. But you know,

1260
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Speaker 10: to the point that you're making about, okay, what did

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00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:52,960
Speaker 10: they wrestle with with the fact that now everyone else

1262
00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:55,200
Speaker 10: is thrown out of whack. I think that they concluded

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Speaker 10: that even a fully less effective version of Kawhi Leonard

1264
00:59:58,880 --> 01:00:01,760
Speaker 10: is better than nothing, and that what they saw in

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Speaker 10: game one, it was encouraging that they could hold the

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Speaker 10: four down without them, but I thought that it wasn't

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Speaker 10: sustainable for beyond the games. So that's what they're wrestling

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Speaker 10: with now. So it's not like the Lakers. They're dealing

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Speaker 10: with uneasy and complex things to unpack, but for different reasons.

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Speaker 2: I think there's a.

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Speaker 1: Lot of similarities between these two organizations. You talked about it, Mark,

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Speaker 1: and I agree with you the idea that the three

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Speaker 1: star situation with the Lakers may not work. It may

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Speaker 1: not work for the Clippers as well. Obviously, James Harden

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Speaker 1: is a walk away free agent after this year, and

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Speaker 1: then they have to address the Paul George contract situation.

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Speaker 1: Are you ready to give him an extended deal upwards

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Speaker 1: of sixty million a year, which is now the going

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Speaker 1: rate for free agents on the market. Do you expect

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Speaker 1: the Clippers to do that for Paul George?

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Speaker 10: Well, I do expect them to do it, but I

1282
01:00:51,840 --> 01:00:54,600
Speaker 10: think that it's very telling that they haven't done it

1283
01:00:54,720 --> 01:00:58,640
Speaker 10: yet because they already extended Kawhi Leonard, and the feeling

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Speaker 10: at the time was that the dominoes are now going

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Speaker 10: to put be put into place where you know, Paul

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Speaker 10: George is going to get taken care of, then James

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Speaker 10: hard and that hasn't happened. And while I do think

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Speaker 10: that most of it has to do with the fact

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Speaker 10: that they want to see how the playoffs play out

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Speaker 10: and they want to use that as leverage for better

1291
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Speaker 10: and for worse, with trying to have a good deal

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01:01:20,160 --> 01:01:24,720
Speaker 10: that makes both parties feel appreciated, but being very savvy,

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01:01:25,040 --> 01:01:28,600
Speaker 10: you know, with the salary cap, it is telling in

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01:01:28,640 --> 01:01:30,520
Speaker 10: and of itself that it wasn't something that that are

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Speaker 10: rushing to do. Now that being said, I think that

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Speaker 10: they do resign Paul George. I think they do resign

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Speaker 10: James Harden. But until the you know, the ink is

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Speaker 10: completely dry on penn with pen and paper, none of

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Speaker 10: that means anything because everything can be so change.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Mark, I got one more for you. Okay.

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Speaker 3: So here we are the Suns Kevin Durant down oh three,

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Speaker 3: Lebron James, Lakers down O three, Steph Curry.

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Speaker 4: Not in the playoffs. Are we entering a new era

1304
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Speaker 4: of basketball?

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Speaker 10: Oh? We certainly are. I mean we have already experienced

1306
01:02:09,600 --> 01:02:13,280
Speaker 10: them with saying that Denver Nuggets win the championship last season. Uh,

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Speaker 10: we're seeing, you know, a lot of younger teams like

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Speaker 10: the Minnesota Timberwolves, the Oklahoma City Thunder makes the run.

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Speaker 10: Maybe we'll finally see the Boston Celtics with Jason Tatum

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Speaker 10: and Jaylen Brown win a championship. I mean, the list

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Speaker 10: goes on and on. So, uh, the playoff exits are

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Speaker 10: the imminent playoff exits that you mentioned with Steph Lebron

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Speaker 10: and KD. I don't think that that means it's the

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Speaker 10: end of their career. They're still going to play and

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Speaker 10: I think that they're still you know, productive years ahead

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Speaker 10: of them. But I don't think that either of those

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Speaker 10: players are going to win another championship. And I don't

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01:02:46,440 --> 01:02:49,960
Speaker 10: think they'll have any realistic shot of you know, being

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Speaker 10: on a team that can make you know, any any

1320
01:02:52,400 --> 01:02:57,000
Speaker 10: deep playoff run, barring you know, significant changes. But while

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Speaker 10: I do have faith in how the Warriors have operated,

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01:03:00,880 --> 01:03:03,400
Speaker 10: you know, they had their own complex questions so to

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01:03:03,520 --> 01:03:06,080
Speaker 10: rustle with where you know, I think that they want

1324
01:03:06,120 --> 01:03:09,200
Speaker 10: to keep Kway Thompson because of not just the sentimental

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01:03:09,240 --> 01:03:12,120
Speaker 10: part but the pragmatic part. But they got to find

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01:03:12,120 --> 01:03:14,160
Speaker 10: the right dour figure and if they find the right

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01:03:14,240 --> 01:03:17,280
Speaker 10: hour figure, they really have to use that cap space

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01:03:17,360 --> 01:03:20,920
Speaker 10: well to actually have a consistent supporting cast around that

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Speaker 10: championship core there.

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Speaker 1: Well, I know a lot of people on the Western

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01:03:24,720 --> 01:03:27,640
Speaker 1: Conference side we're saying, is OKC for real?

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Speaker 10: Yeah?

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01:03:28,360 --> 01:03:31,200
Speaker 1: Are the Timberwolves for real? Well, so far the answer

1334
01:03:31,280 --> 01:03:33,680
Speaker 1: is a big yes. Of course, they have a roadblock

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Speaker 1: in their way, and that would be the defending champion

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Speaker 1: Denver Nuggets. Mark great Stuff is always we appreciate the time.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk to you next week.

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Speaker 10: Mon iSIG great stuff right back at you. Always appreciate you.

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Speaker 1: There he is the great Mark Medina join us our

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Speaker 1: NBA insider. Now let's find out what is trending. And

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Speaker 1: Martin's been hanging out with us today.

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01:03:53,800 --> 01:03:55,400
Speaker 2: And it'll be here for a few more hours.

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01:03:55,520 --> 01:03:56,240
Speaker 4: Yeah you will.

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01:03:56,480 --> 01:03:57,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're all.

1345
01:03:57,240 --> 01:03:59,360
Speaker 1: You're just getting started with your day. Are you wearing

1346
01:03:59,400 --> 01:04:00,720
Speaker 1: an odd up old hat?

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Speaker 2: I am Where did you get that?

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Speaker 9: Believe it or not, Rob Parker is a big proponent

1349
01:04:06,120 --> 01:04:07,680
Speaker 9: of pushing his own brand.

1350
01:04:08,280 --> 01:04:10,360
Speaker 2: So yeah, I would never even known this.

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01:04:10,760 --> 01:04:12,360
Speaker 9: You know, I know it's hard to believe, but this

1352
01:04:12,400 --> 01:04:15,440
Speaker 9: is officially from the Rob Parker store. Conduct in from

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01:04:15,440 --> 01:04:18,800
Speaker 9: merch Rob Parker MLB bro on social media, He'll be how.

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01:04:18,800 --> 01:04:20,840
Speaker 2: He gave that to you? You wouldn't have bought that. I

1355
01:04:20,920 --> 01:04:23,320
Speaker 2: know I wouldn't have bought it. No, that's not I'm not.

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01:04:23,800 --> 01:04:24,439
Speaker 2: I work here.

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Speaker 1: You know, however, he probably puts you on payroll if

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01:04:27,520 --> 01:04:29,520
Speaker 1: the you wear it out in public and people ask

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Speaker 1: you about.

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Speaker 9: It, and well, you know, Steve, I do do a

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01:04:31,520 --> 01:04:36,240
Speaker 9: hit on the eye couple. Everything was at eight thirty eastern,

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Speaker 9: nine thirty one of the two.

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to mark down all the things that Martin does.

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Speaker 3: Direct Well, it's like Beyonce says, he work Monday through Friday,

1365
01:04:44,840 --> 01:04:46,240
Speaker 3: hustle Friday through Sunday.

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Speaker 2: Yes, there you go.

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Speaker 1: I'm very proud to be it's true. I told him

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Speaker 1: that's the way, and he's doing it all right. What's

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Speaker 1: going on today, Martin?

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Speaker 2: We got a draft that's over finally.

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Speaker 4: Can you give us all the picks in order?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 9: Number one, Caleb Williams now number two fifty seven, mister irrelevant.

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01:05:04,080 --> 01:05:07,120
Speaker 9: Jalen Key, safety from Alabama, picked two fifty seven to

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01:05:07,160 --> 01:05:10,320
Speaker 9: the New York Jets. Welcome to the NFL. And everybody's

1376
01:05:10,320 --> 01:05:12,360
Speaker 9: gonna say, wait, Brock Perdy did it? So can you

1377
01:05:12,440 --> 01:05:16,840
Speaker 9: bud yep? All right? Milwaukee Bucks Damian Lillard diagnosed with

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01:05:16,880 --> 01:05:19,400
Speaker 9: a great one a chilly strain, doubtful for Game four tomorrow.

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01:05:19,800 --> 01:05:23,400
Speaker 9: Pacers lead that series two games to one. Cavaliers and

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01:05:23,440 --> 01:05:25,240
Speaker 9: the Magic all tied up to a piece now as

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01:05:25,360 --> 01:05:28,840
Speaker 9: Orlando won earlier today UH one twelve to eighty nine.

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01:05:28,880 --> 01:05:32,560
Speaker 9: Franz Wagner thirty four points, thirteen rebounds. Thunder lead their

1383
01:05:32,600 --> 01:05:35,960
Speaker 9: series three games to zero, as they played early today

1384
01:05:36,000 --> 01:05:38,880
Speaker 9: down in New Orleans and thumped the Pelicans one O

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01:05:39,080 --> 01:05:41,640
Speaker 9: six to eighty five Celtics in the heat. Right now

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01:05:41,680 --> 01:05:44,680
Speaker 9: midway through the third quarter, about five twenty left Boston

1387
01:05:44,720 --> 01:05:48,840
Speaker 9: with the twenty one point leads seventy four to fifty three.

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Speaker 9: Quick mattery, like that months I do. Earlier today in

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01:05:52,600 --> 01:05:56,280
Speaker 9: the NFL the Hurricane and the Islanders. Carolina had a

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01:05:56,320 --> 01:05:58,240
Speaker 9: three to nothing lead to start the series, but New

1391
01:05:58,360 --> 01:06:01,760
Speaker 9: York keeps the series alive, winning in double overtime three

1392
01:06:01,840 --> 01:06:05,720
Speaker 9: to two. Obviously, now Carolina with a three to one

1393
01:06:05,840 --> 01:06:08,600
Speaker 9: lead in the series and Florida has a three to

1394
01:06:08,640 --> 01:06:12,560
Speaker 9: nothing lead over Tampa Bay in the series. But in

1395
01:06:12,560 --> 01:06:15,480
Speaker 9: today's game, the Tampa Bay Lightning are leading five to

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01:06:15,560 --> 01:06:19,080
Speaker 9: three with six minutes left in the third period. Steven

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Speaker 9: Monci back to you guys, all.

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Speaker 2: Right, Martin, great job is always. You'll be hearing Martin

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Speaker 2: later on.

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Speaker 1: Actually he's on twenty four to seven on Fox Sports Radio,

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01:06:27,360 --> 01:06:30,520
Speaker 1: so you'll hear plenty of him once again. We are

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01:06:30,520 --> 01:06:34,400
Speaker 1: here coming to you live from the tairaq dot com studios.

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01:06:35,160 --> 01:06:37,320
Speaker 2: So the first team that could.

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Speaker 1: Be eliminated from these NBA playoffs would be the Los

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01:06:40,120 --> 01:06:44,560
Speaker 1: Angeles Lakers home tonight against the Denver Nuggets. I don't

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01:06:44,560 --> 01:06:46,760
Speaker 1: know if we talk enough about the Nuggets.

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01:06:46,880 --> 01:06:47,320
Speaker 4: We don't.

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01:06:47,480 --> 01:06:50,880
Speaker 1: The Nuggets in a lot of ways are very much

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01:06:51,000 --> 01:06:54,280
Speaker 1: like the Spurs were back in the day, especially if

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01:06:54,280 --> 01:06:57,959
Speaker 1: they can actually back up last year's championship with another championship.

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Speaker 1: I say that because the constructed beauty beautifully the construction

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01:07:04,000 --> 01:07:07,480
Speaker 1: of this team, not just as they play on the court,

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01:07:07,760 --> 01:07:11,640
Speaker 1: but from a salary standpoint. The one thing about the

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01:07:11,640 --> 01:07:15,720
Speaker 1: Spurs back in the days of Duncan and Parker and

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01:07:15,840 --> 01:07:19,479
Speaker 1: Jannobiley and then later with Kawhi I remember, I would

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01:07:19,480 --> 01:07:22,400
Speaker 1: look at their salaries and you would say, they're paying

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01:07:22,440 --> 01:07:25,120
Speaker 1: the right amount of money to everyone. That's very rare

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01:07:25,160 --> 01:07:27,560
Speaker 1: in the NBA because you can put almost any roster

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01:07:27,640 --> 01:07:30,480
Speaker 1: together like you're paying this guy that, or you're not

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01:07:30,520 --> 01:07:32,760
Speaker 1: paying this guy enough. It was never that way with

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Speaker 1: the Spurs, and that's why they were a consistent winner.

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01:07:36,360 --> 01:07:39,720
Speaker 1: They have a player, Jamal Murray, who is your dream

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01:07:39,840 --> 01:07:44,000
Speaker 1: player because he plays at a different level in the postseason.

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01:07:45,120 --> 01:07:48,120
Speaker 1: A lot of guys come down in the postseason like

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01:07:48,160 --> 01:07:51,640
Speaker 1: they put up some glossy regular season numbers, and then

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01:07:51,800 --> 01:07:54,680
Speaker 1: where are they won the lights or brightest. Jamal Murray

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01:07:54,720 --> 01:07:56,880
Speaker 1: is the opposite. It's never made an All Star team,

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01:07:56,880 --> 01:07:59,480
Speaker 1: he's never been All NBA, and yet we watch him

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01:07:59,480 --> 01:08:01,480
Speaker 1: in the postseas like this guy should be a perennial

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01:08:01,560 --> 01:08:04,200
Speaker 1: All Star. And then you have the best player in

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01:08:04,240 --> 01:08:08,880
Speaker 1: the league in Jokic. So they're so beautifully constructed, and

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Speaker 1: I don't know, but the problem was one other problem.

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Speaker 2: They're boring.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Jokic is like Tim Duncan was. Tim Duncan

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01:08:20,160 --> 01:08:23,559
Speaker 1: was a superstar at the highest level in the NBA.

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Speaker 1: He helped them win five NBA championships for years because

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01:08:28,240 --> 01:08:31,759
Speaker 1: he was a contemporary of Kobe Bryant. I said, Duncan

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01:08:31,800 --> 01:08:36,200
Speaker 1: has a better resume than Kobe does. He does, but

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01:08:36,280 --> 01:08:38,360
Speaker 1: no one would ever mention like Tim Duncan one of

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01:08:38,400 --> 01:08:41,480
Speaker 1: the greatest players of all time because he was boring.

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01:08:41,880 --> 01:08:44,040
Speaker 4: Yes, he uh fundamental.

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01:08:43,760 --> 01:08:45,240
Speaker 2: And that's what Jokich is.

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01:08:45,320 --> 01:08:46,920
Speaker 4: They are and the whole team is.

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01:08:47,320 --> 01:08:51,479
Speaker 3: You know, nowadays we hear these young players, we watch

1445
01:08:51,560 --> 01:08:52,120
Speaker 3: young players.

1446
01:08:52,160 --> 01:08:54,080
Speaker 4: We just heard Greg Popovich.

1447
01:08:53,640 --> 01:08:56,559
Speaker 3: This season say that he's teaching like the basics of

1448
01:08:56,600 --> 01:08:59,920
Speaker 3: fundamental basketball to some of these guys going into the NBA.

1449
01:09:00,360 --> 01:09:05,840
Speaker 3: The entire Nuggets is like exactly a fundamental basketball team

1450
01:09:06,040 --> 01:09:07,479
Speaker 3: led by Nicola Jokic.

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01:09:07,880 --> 01:09:11,599
Speaker 4: He is boring to some, not to me. I laugh

1452
01:09:11,760 --> 01:09:12,439
Speaker 4: so much.

1453
01:09:12,240 --> 01:09:14,880
Speaker 3: In a good way when I watch Nicola Jokic, because

1454
01:09:14,920 --> 01:09:16,320
Speaker 3: he goes at his own pace.

1455
01:09:16,560 --> 01:09:17,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he does.

1456
01:09:18,080 --> 01:09:20,160
Speaker 4: I can tell you exactly what movie he's gonna make,

1457
01:09:20,560 --> 01:09:23,080
Speaker 4: and yet you can't stop him. You still, you know

1458
01:09:23,120 --> 01:09:23,760
Speaker 4: what he's gonna do.

1459
01:09:23,880 --> 01:09:26,080
Speaker 3: He's gonna take a couple steps here, he's gonna look around,

1460
01:09:26,160 --> 01:09:28,400
Speaker 3: he's gonna do a little shot. If he's available, he's

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01:09:28,400 --> 01:09:30,120
Speaker 3: gonna make it. If not, he's gonna dish it out.

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01:09:30,200 --> 01:09:32,599
Speaker 3: You know exactly what he's gonna do, and you cannot

1463
01:09:32,600 --> 01:09:33,200
Speaker 3: stop the man.

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01:09:33,640 --> 01:09:35,519
Speaker 4: Boring to some, not to me.

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01:09:35,960 --> 01:09:40,560
Speaker 3: I enjoy watching him because I cannot believe how successful

1466
01:09:40,760 --> 01:09:43,960
Speaker 3: he is doing the most basic of moves. He's not

1467
01:09:44,040 --> 01:09:47,080
Speaker 3: flashy in any way, but that's fine. He's got flashy

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01:09:47,080 --> 01:09:49,839
Speaker 3: players around him. I don't think we give the credits,

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01:09:49,960 --> 01:09:52,240
Speaker 3: or excuse me, the Nuggets credit. I don't think we

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01:09:52,320 --> 01:09:55,160
Speaker 3: give Nicola Jokic credit. We don't give Jamal Murray credit.

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01:09:55,320 --> 01:09:58,960
Speaker 3: We don't give Aaron Gordon credit as the enforcer because

1472
01:09:59,000 --> 01:10:01,719
Speaker 3: you're not expecting Aaron to drop twenty nine points.

1473
01:10:01,760 --> 01:10:03,360
Speaker 4: That's what he did the last game. That's not what

1474
01:10:03,400 --> 01:10:05,840
Speaker 4: you're expecting him to do. He is your enforcer.

1475
01:10:06,160 --> 01:10:08,320
Speaker 3: He is, to me like what the Warriors had in

1476
01:10:08,400 --> 01:10:11,240
Speaker 3: Draymond Green in their prime. He is gonna go out

1477
01:10:11,280 --> 01:10:13,439
Speaker 3: there and he is going to enforce whatever he needs.

1478
01:10:13,680 --> 01:10:16,880
Speaker 3: Also this, ye're like Michael Porter junior. He has become

1479
01:10:17,000 --> 01:10:21,760
Speaker 3: a solid third option. He may be streaky, but he

1480
01:10:21,880 --> 01:10:26,479
Speaker 3: is streaky more often than not. Their entire team is

1481
01:10:26,600 --> 01:10:27,160
Speaker 3: a weapon.

1482
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Speaker 1: You know why Gordon scored twenty nine in the last

1483
01:10:30,120 --> 01:10:33,720
Speaker 1: game because he had Lebron James guarding him.

1484
01:10:34,000 --> 01:10:37,639
Speaker 2: Yep, yep, And this this is only makes sense.

1485
01:10:37,840 --> 01:10:40,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, he can't play both ends of the corps.

1486
01:10:40,479 --> 01:10:42,920
Speaker 4: No, he can't. He does a driving brother play up,

1487
01:10:42,960 --> 01:10:44,320
Speaker 4: He can't catch up on the other way.

1488
01:10:44,439 --> 01:10:47,200
Speaker 2: Does Kevin Durant play any defense? Does Steph Curry play

1489
01:10:47,200 --> 01:10:47,919
Speaker 2: any defense?

1490
01:10:48,120 --> 01:10:49,040
Speaker 4: No?

1491
01:10:48,560 --> 01:10:51,880
Speaker 1: No, No, he's too When you get along in years,

1492
01:10:51,920 --> 01:10:54,559
Speaker 1: you got to sort of pick your poison, which is

1493
01:10:54,680 --> 01:10:58,719
Speaker 1: why Vanderbilt has been a huge loss for the Lakers.

1494
01:10:58,760 --> 01:11:01,400
Speaker 1: He gave him a little bit of defense, right, They

1495
01:11:01,439 --> 01:11:04,680
Speaker 1: needed that with Lebron, but with the Denver Nuggets, and

1496
01:11:05,080 --> 01:11:07,120
Speaker 1: let's not lose sight of Malone as a coach. I

1497
01:11:07,160 --> 01:11:09,960
Speaker 1: was just going to bring them up because Michael Malone

1498
01:11:10,000 --> 01:11:13,799
Speaker 1: is one of those coaches that he's like a pop.

1499
01:11:14,120 --> 01:11:17,400
Speaker 1: He holds his team fire to you know that they

1500
01:11:17,520 --> 01:11:19,960
Speaker 1: have to play at a certain level. You could send

1501
01:11:20,000 --> 01:11:23,000
Speaker 1: some frustration during the course of the regular season their

1502
01:11:23,120 --> 01:11:26,759
Speaker 1: uneven play. There were games where they inexplicably would play bad.

1503
01:11:27,240 --> 01:11:30,120
Speaker 1: The telling sign to me was when they played better teams,

1504
01:11:30,120 --> 01:11:33,200
Speaker 1: they seem to play a whole lot better. Remember the

1505
01:11:33,240 --> 01:11:35,799
Speaker 1: Celtics were undefeated at home until Denver.

1506
01:11:35,680 --> 01:11:37,280
Speaker 2: Came into town.

1507
01:11:37,560 --> 01:11:40,360
Speaker 1: And now I'm sure that he's pleased that his team

1508
01:11:40,840 --> 01:11:43,559
Speaker 1: almost toying with the Lakers in every one of these games.

1509
01:11:44,360 --> 01:11:48,479
Speaker 1: That game, too, was beyond belief that the Lakers would

1510
01:11:48,560 --> 01:11:53,440
Speaker 1: actually lose that game. And to watch Jamal Murray calmly

1511
01:11:54,360 --> 01:11:57,240
Speaker 1: just take the ball, no time out, there was plenty

1512
01:11:57,240 --> 01:12:00,320
Speaker 1: of He was twelve seconds left, take his time, get

1513
01:12:00,360 --> 01:12:02,559
Speaker 1: to the point of the court where he wanted to be.

1514
01:12:02,960 --> 01:12:05,640
Speaker 1: He backs off, shoots over a d all net at

1515
01:12:05,680 --> 01:12:09,960
Speaker 1: the buzzer place goes absolutely nuts. That is a team

1516
01:12:10,400 --> 01:12:13,360
Speaker 1: that has the confidence that comes from what we've been

1517
01:12:13,400 --> 01:12:17,360
Speaker 1: talking about with the Lakers, the Clippers, the Suns, what's

1518
01:12:17,400 --> 01:12:21,960
Speaker 1: their identity. The thing about the Nuggets is everyone on

1519
01:12:22,000 --> 01:12:26,040
Speaker 1: that team has a clearly defined role. And if you

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Speaker 1: look at the Nuggets game in game out, yeah, you'll

1521
01:12:29,080 --> 01:12:30,920
Speaker 1: have a game where Gordon maybe scores a little more,

1522
01:12:31,000 --> 01:12:32,280
Speaker 1: especially when he's guarded by.

1523
01:12:32,200 --> 01:12:35,760
Speaker 2: Lebron James or not guarded by Lebron James. But that's

1524
01:12:35,760 --> 01:12:37,320
Speaker 2: the sign of a team.

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01:12:38,280 --> 01:12:41,000
Speaker 1: The Nuggets were this way, go back in time with

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01:12:41,080 --> 01:12:45,200
Speaker 1: the Celtics and Lakers showtime, everyone had a defined role

1527
01:12:45,439 --> 01:12:48,559
Speaker 1: and that box scorer would look pretty much the same

1528
01:12:48,600 --> 01:12:51,360
Speaker 1: game in a game out. That's when you know you've

1529
01:12:51,439 --> 01:12:53,160
Speaker 1: arrived at a championship level.

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01:12:53,280 --> 01:12:55,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, Steve, you're not the only daddy out there. Michael

1531
01:12:55,479 --> 01:12:56,400
Speaker 3: Malone is a daddy.

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01:12:56,479 --> 01:12:56,960
Speaker 5: He's a dad.

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01:12:57,080 --> 01:12:57,920
Speaker 4: He's a daddy one.

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01:12:58,800 --> 01:13:03,320
Speaker 3: And you see him on the sideline yelling coaching as

1535
01:13:03,360 --> 01:13:04,360
Speaker 3: the game is going on.

1536
01:13:04,560 --> 01:13:06,479
Speaker 4: He's not just letting them do their thing.

1537
01:13:06,920 --> 01:13:10,720
Speaker 3: He is leading them play by play, and you don't

1538
01:13:10,720 --> 01:13:13,200
Speaker 3: see a lot of coaches do that. He is animated

1539
01:13:13,280 --> 01:13:15,679
Speaker 3: on the defensive side of the ball, telling them where

1540
01:13:15,720 --> 01:13:18,120
Speaker 3: to go. And then I also like when Nicola Jokic

1541
01:13:18,360 --> 01:13:21,280
Speaker 3: grabs the team in between you know, a player or

1542
01:13:21,320 --> 01:13:22,160
Speaker 3: a timeout.

1543
01:13:22,240 --> 01:13:25,680
Speaker 4: They are on the same page from beginning to end.

1544
01:13:25,880 --> 01:13:26,880
Speaker 4: They're on the same book.

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01:13:26,880 --> 01:13:29,240
Speaker 3: They're on the same page, and they're gonna close that

1546
01:13:29,360 --> 01:13:33,200
Speaker 3: chapter together. They're I think they're unstoppable.

1547
01:13:33,560 --> 01:13:34,240
Speaker 4: Are gonna win?

1548
01:13:34,560 --> 01:13:36,360
Speaker 2: I believe they are.

1549
01:13:36,479 --> 01:13:38,599
Speaker 1: And after what happened to the Celtics in Game two

1550
01:13:38,640 --> 01:13:42,040
Speaker 1: when Miami put up that barrage at THREESA, oh, Jimmy,

1551
01:13:42,280 --> 01:13:44,320
Speaker 1: I mean right now, the Celtics will winning again. No

1552
01:13:44,680 --> 01:13:47,719
Speaker 1: Jimmy Butler today for the heat. So Celtics, they're gonna

1553
01:13:47,720 --> 01:13:49,599
Speaker 1: take care of the heat in the series. I don't

1554
01:13:49,600 --> 01:13:51,760
Speaker 1: see anybody slowing down the Celtics in the East.

1555
01:13:51,760 --> 01:13:54,519
Speaker 3: But Miami should not have won that game. That Miami

1556
01:13:54,560 --> 01:13:57,000
Speaker 3: should not have won that game. A Celtics should be embarrassed.

1557
01:13:57,040 --> 01:13:59,200
Speaker 1: If the Lakers lose tonight, aren't you gonna shd just

1558
01:13:59,280 --> 01:14:04,000
Speaker 1: a slight peer. I don't know if the Clippers loose tomorrow, though,

1559
01:14:04,040 --> 01:14:04,479
Speaker 1: you might.

1560
01:14:04,439 --> 01:14:07,920
Speaker 4: Oh no, shed lots of tears. You'll be here, you can.

1561
01:14:08,080 --> 01:14:10,000
Speaker 4: You'll see me crying all.

1562
01:14:09,960 --> 01:14:11,720
Speaker 1: Right, coming up on the other side. Now that the

1563
01:14:11,800 --> 01:14:14,559
Speaker 1: draft is coming gone, what's next in the NFL.

1564
01:14:14,600 --> 01:14:15,400
Speaker 2: We'll break it down.

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01:14:15,479 --> 01:14:19,680
Speaker 1: This is Fox Sports Saturday, Steve Harvey, Monzie Bolanos. Here

1566
01:14:19,680 --> 01:14:22,519
Speaker 1: at Fox Sports Saturday. We are live from the tire

1567
01:14:22,600 --> 01:14:24,880
Speaker 1: rack dot Com Studios. Want to thank our crew to day.

1568
01:14:24,920 --> 01:14:28,360
Speaker 1: Martin of course getting ready for his show vj uh

1569
01:14:28,520 --> 01:14:30,759
Speaker 1: doing a great job giving us the updates throughout.

1570
01:14:30,800 --> 01:14:36,200
Speaker 2: Mary mack you, hey, how are you, man?

1571
01:14:36,640 --> 01:14:37,320
Speaker 5: I'm doing good.

1572
01:14:37,760 --> 01:14:40,680
Speaker 1: She's twenty one years old now and she is just

1573
01:14:40,800 --> 01:14:43,879
Speaker 1: blossomed and twenty first birthday.

1574
01:14:43,920 --> 01:14:46,559
Speaker 2: I mean, it's been It's like a game changer.

1575
01:14:46,840 --> 01:14:47,519
Speaker 4: She looks fly.

1576
01:14:47,760 --> 01:14:51,719
Speaker 2: I know you guys, she just seems very adult.

1577
01:14:52,240 --> 01:14:53,599
Speaker 4: Don't tell her that. No, she doesn't.

1578
01:14:54,120 --> 01:14:58,920
Speaker 2: No, she doesn't, well adult in a fun way. I

1579
01:14:58,960 --> 01:15:00,120
Speaker 2: can remember the days.

1580
01:15:00,560 --> 01:15:01,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm sure you can.

1581
01:15:02,120 --> 01:15:06,240
Speaker 1: Yes, I'm I'm reliving it with my kids, right, So

1582
01:15:06,320 --> 01:15:06,920
Speaker 1: that's what I do.

1583
01:15:07,040 --> 01:15:07,840
Speaker 2: But great job.

1584
01:15:07,840 --> 01:15:10,519
Speaker 1: Mary mci is always thank you, and of course Patrick

1585
01:15:10,640 --> 01:15:13,360
Speaker 1: is our steam producer that puts this whole thing together.

1586
01:15:14,240 --> 01:15:16,960
Speaker 1: We always mentioned listen to our podcast if you like it,

1587
01:15:18,080 --> 01:15:21,679
Speaker 1: definitely give kudos to our brilliant producer Patrick.

1588
01:15:21,800 --> 01:15:25,240
Speaker 2: Yes, oh thanks guys. I couldn't do this without you, guys.

1589
01:15:25,000 --> 01:15:27,439
Speaker 4: Though, That's how we feel about you.

1590
01:15:27,439 --> 01:15:29,439
Speaker 2: You two are the real stars. He well, it's a

1591
01:15:29,479 --> 01:15:31,720
Speaker 2: team effort. It's a team effort, all right.

1592
01:15:31,760 --> 01:15:34,799
Speaker 1: I'm a little bit disappointed that my son Sam Hartman

1593
01:15:35,960 --> 01:15:37,400
Speaker 1: did not get drafted.

1594
01:15:37,640 --> 01:15:41,240
Speaker 3: No but breaking news for you though, he did get drafted,

1595
01:15:41,840 --> 01:15:45,880
Speaker 3: just not by the Jets. According to Tom Pellisero, he

1596
01:15:45,960 --> 01:15:49,280
Speaker 3: is now signing with the Commanders.

1597
01:15:48,880 --> 01:15:50,760
Speaker 2: So okay, but very good for Sam.

1598
01:15:50,800 --> 01:15:52,680
Speaker 1: And now this is, by the way, this is a

1599
01:15:52,760 --> 01:15:56,799
Speaker 1: part of the draft situation where so much in the NFL,

1600
01:15:57,040 --> 01:16:00,559
Speaker 1: I think, even more so than any other sport, success

1601
01:16:00,600 --> 01:16:02,719
Speaker 1: in this league is about being in the right place

1602
01:16:02,720 --> 01:16:06,479
Speaker 1: at the right time, right team, right system, and everything else.

1603
01:16:06,600 --> 01:16:09,160
Speaker 1: And so a lot of guys who get drafted late

1604
01:16:10,400 --> 01:16:14,160
Speaker 1: it actually can be a disadvantage because obviously, if you're drafted,

1605
01:16:14,200 --> 01:16:17,040
Speaker 1: you are now locked into that team. If you don't

1606
01:16:17,080 --> 01:16:20,360
Speaker 1: get drafted, then immediately and that's what's going on right now,

1607
01:16:20,479 --> 01:16:22,840
Speaker 1: You're going to see all these guys signed as free

1608
01:16:22,840 --> 01:16:26,120
Speaker 1: agents immediately a team sign I don't know outher words

1609
01:16:26,120 --> 01:16:28,680
Speaker 1: to a dozen of these guys, you know, with the

1610
01:16:28,760 --> 01:16:31,320
Speaker 1: chance of maybe I mean Austin Eckler was a free

1611
01:16:31,360 --> 01:16:34,360
Speaker 1: agent signing by the Chargers, not drafted, turn out to

1612
01:16:34,360 --> 01:16:36,200
Speaker 1: be a heck of a running back for several years,

1613
01:16:36,680 --> 01:16:39,320
Speaker 1: and so you then sort of get to pick and choose, like,

1614
01:16:39,360 --> 01:16:42,920
Speaker 1: all right, where would I have a chance? Obviously Jayden

1615
01:16:43,000 --> 01:16:45,640
Speaker 1: Daniels is the quarterback of the future for the Commanders,

1616
01:16:46,200 --> 01:16:48,960
Speaker 1: But if you're Sam Hartman, it's like, Okay, why not?

1617
01:16:49,240 --> 01:16:52,000
Speaker 2: Why not? I mean, what if he doesn't pan out?

1618
01:16:52,120 --> 01:16:52,559
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1619
01:16:52,720 --> 01:16:55,679
Speaker 4: Or just what what if I can learn in this situation?

1620
01:16:55,920 --> 01:16:56,280
Speaker 2: Okay?

1621
01:16:56,280 --> 01:17:02,559
Speaker 1: But about how about this? So go back to Washington

1622
01:17:02,800 --> 01:17:06,360
Speaker 1: under their former name. Yes, they had the second pick

1623
01:17:06,360 --> 01:17:09,519
Speaker 1: in the draft, and they took Robert Griffin the third,

1624
01:17:10,600 --> 01:17:12,960
Speaker 1: and then in the same draft in the fourth round,

1625
01:17:14,120 --> 01:17:16,519
Speaker 1: they took another quarterback named Kirk Cousins.

1626
01:17:16,840 --> 01:17:20,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, And it was like, why would you do that?

1627
01:17:20,640 --> 01:17:23,080
Speaker 1: I mean, you just used the second overall pick on

1628
01:17:23,080 --> 01:17:25,000
Speaker 1: the Heisman Trophy winner RG three?

1629
01:17:25,360 --> 01:17:25,920
Speaker 2: Why would you.

1630
01:17:25,960 --> 01:17:29,040
Speaker 1: Draft another quarterback in the same draft in the fourth round?

1631
01:17:29,520 --> 01:17:33,000
Speaker 1: RG three had a tremendous rookie season, beat out the

1632
01:17:33,080 --> 01:17:35,679
Speaker 1: number one pick Andrew Luckf for Offensive Rookie of the Year,

1633
01:17:36,120 --> 01:17:38,680
Speaker 1: and then he got hurt and before you know it,

1634
01:17:38,720 --> 01:17:40,200
Speaker 1: the new quarterback of the team.

1635
01:17:40,000 --> 01:17:41,560
Speaker 2: Is Kirk Cousins.

1636
01:17:41,760 --> 01:17:42,320
Speaker 4: You like that?

1637
01:17:42,920 --> 01:17:46,799
Speaker 1: So, I mean, I'm not wishing any ill on Jadon Daniels.

1638
01:17:46,800 --> 01:17:48,880
Speaker 1: I hope he has a Hall of Fame career, but

1639
01:17:49,160 --> 01:17:52,560
Speaker 1: if you know body top wise, he could be breakable

1640
01:17:52,680 --> 01:17:54,240
Speaker 1: like RG three was back.

1641
01:17:54,040 --> 01:17:54,519
Speaker 2: In the day.

1642
01:17:55,040 --> 01:17:58,280
Speaker 1: And now you have a little insurance in the flowing

1643
01:17:58,400 --> 01:18:01,679
Speaker 1: locks of one Sam Heart.

1644
01:18:01,920 --> 01:18:05,360
Speaker 3: He does have flowing locks, man, Like, I want to

1645
01:18:05,439 --> 01:18:07,800
Speaker 3: know what he puts in his hair to make it

1646
01:18:07,840 --> 01:18:08,320
Speaker 3: look well.

1647
01:18:08,320 --> 01:18:10,559
Speaker 2: He gives credit to his mom for his hair.

1648
01:18:11,479 --> 01:18:13,680
Speaker 4: Right, I'm okay, then, mom, what but have you.

1649
01:18:13,800 --> 01:18:16,559
Speaker 1: Been watching these TikTok videos of these women? They are

1650
01:18:16,640 --> 01:18:17,880
Speaker 1: absolutely nuts for this.

1651
01:18:18,560 --> 01:18:20,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's because he's got He's got like a GQ

1652
01:18:20,960 --> 01:18:22,240
Speaker 3: look to him.

1653
01:18:22,360 --> 01:18:25,040
Speaker 4: That's why it's it's the hair, the facial hair.

1654
01:18:25,560 --> 01:18:28,439
Speaker 3: Knowing that he that rib was removed and he put

1655
01:18:28,479 --> 01:18:29,320
Speaker 3: it in a necklace.

1656
01:18:29,360 --> 01:18:32,639
Speaker 4: It's like all these stories, you're just like, oh, he's

1657
01:18:32,640 --> 01:18:33,840
Speaker 4: like a lumberjack, like.

1658
01:18:33,840 --> 01:18:35,759
Speaker 2: A GQ lumberjack exactly.

1659
01:18:35,800 --> 01:18:38,360
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Like, yeah, the ladies like that.

1660
01:18:38,360 --> 01:18:39,280
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna lie to you.

1661
01:18:39,360 --> 01:18:40,960
Speaker 2: Not gonna lie to you apparently, So.

1662
01:18:42,479 --> 01:18:44,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're gonna hear a lot of names come off

1663
01:18:44,320 --> 01:18:48,080
Speaker 1: the board in terms of signing a free agents. So

1664
01:18:48,520 --> 01:18:50,960
Speaker 1: you know it's and and by the way, having gone

1665
01:18:50,960 --> 01:18:54,320
Speaker 1: through this experience working with a former NFL team, when

1666
01:18:54,320 --> 01:18:58,320
Speaker 1: they actually show up so and it doesn't take they're

1667
01:18:58,560 --> 01:19:01,160
Speaker 1: like the next day, right, all said, you're introduced to

1668
01:19:01,600 --> 01:19:04,160
Speaker 1: all the rookies that you draft in everything else, and

1669
01:19:04,240 --> 01:19:06,720
Speaker 1: you get a look at them and the excitement of

1670
01:19:06,760 --> 01:19:10,800
Speaker 1: showing up and expectations you you know, you.

1671
01:19:10,840 --> 01:19:13,600
Speaker 2: Never know, you never know, you just never I.

1672
01:19:13,600 --> 01:19:15,120
Speaker 4: Think you hit you. You hit it on the head

1673
01:19:15,160 --> 01:19:15,719
Speaker 4: where you said.

1674
01:19:15,760 --> 01:19:20,040
Speaker 3: It's like opportunity, luck and situation, all of that has

1675
01:19:20,120 --> 01:19:21,680
Speaker 3: to happen, and you just can be in the right

1676
01:19:21,680 --> 01:19:23,639
Speaker 3: place at the right time. And not just with football,

1677
01:19:23,640 --> 01:19:26,080
Speaker 3: but in life. You know what I'm saying, Just say life,

1678
01:19:26,880 --> 01:19:30,200
Speaker 3: opportunity meets luck and situation and you just got to

1679
01:19:30,240 --> 01:19:30,800
Speaker 3: be ready for it.

1680
01:19:30,840 --> 01:19:32,360
Speaker 1: Why do you look at me and say, boy, is

1681
01:19:32,400 --> 01:19:35,800
Speaker 1: there a prime example of that. There's no explaining any

1682
01:19:35,800 --> 01:19:37,800
Speaker 1: of this. This is the luckiest individual.

1683
01:19:38,320 --> 01:19:40,960
Speaker 3: You know, the fact that you did not think you

1684
01:19:41,000 --> 01:19:43,960
Speaker 3: were gonna end up working in sports, you historian, and

1685
01:19:44,000 --> 01:19:46,760
Speaker 3: then you just landed a job with the Raiders before.

1686
01:19:46,520 --> 01:19:49,320
Speaker 4: I was born, and then you're here, You are here.

1687
01:19:49,360 --> 01:19:51,640
Speaker 2: You are luckiest guy around.

1688
01:19:51,479 --> 01:19:52,639
Speaker 4: Luckiest guy around.

1689
01:19:52,800 --> 01:19:55,400
Speaker 1: No, I mean I'm very excited for all these players

1690
01:19:55,439 --> 01:19:57,799
Speaker 1: in the NFL. And I have to take a step

1691
01:19:57,840 --> 01:19:59,960
Speaker 1: back when I when I watch the big stage, you know,

1692
01:20:00,200 --> 01:20:03,719
Speaker 1: in Detroit, and you know, two hundred and fifty thousand

1693
01:20:03,720 --> 01:20:07,760
Speaker 1: people a day showing up each day and just standing there, I.

1694
01:20:07,680 --> 01:20:10,800
Speaker 2: Don't understand why are you there? What is what is that?

1695
01:20:11,000 --> 01:20:13,360
Speaker 1: Other than you just say well, I was there, it

1696
01:20:13,439 --> 01:20:16,720
Speaker 1: was part of it, but you can't see anything.

1697
01:20:17,080 --> 01:20:20,479
Speaker 3: It's becoming rarely here any day. Yeah, it's becoming a

1698
01:20:20,600 --> 01:20:21,960
Speaker 3: sport holiday.

1699
01:20:21,680 --> 01:20:22,719
Speaker 2: Which is crazy.

1700
01:20:22,920 --> 01:20:25,639
Speaker 3: Never not in a million and it doesn't even compare

1701
01:20:25,720 --> 01:20:28,240
Speaker 3: to the NBA Draft in any way, shape or form.

1702
01:20:28,320 --> 01:20:31,559
Speaker 3: Like it really is becoming a holiday. People were waiting,

1703
01:20:31,760 --> 01:20:34,040
Speaker 3: salivating for the NFL drop to get here, even though

1704
01:20:34,040 --> 01:20:35,360
Speaker 3: we all knew who was gonna go first.

1705
01:20:35,560 --> 01:20:37,799
Speaker 4: It was just like the excitement of it. I couldn't

1706
01:20:37,800 --> 01:20:38,519
Speaker 4: believe the numbers.

1707
01:20:39,680 --> 01:20:42,240
Speaker 2: I have watched the evolution of this league over many

1708
01:20:42,240 --> 01:20:43,360
Speaker 2: many years and.

1709
01:20:43,240 --> 01:20:47,080
Speaker 1: Not in a million years ect ever, you know, and

1710
01:20:47,160 --> 01:20:49,160
Speaker 1: gambling was a big part of it, but now just

1711
01:20:49,200 --> 01:20:52,559
Speaker 1: so much more as a culture in this country. Another

1712
01:20:52,680 --> 01:20:54,840
Speaker 1: draft is in the books. We have a busy week

1713
01:20:54,840 --> 01:20:57,760
Speaker 1: coming up with the NBA playoffs. For all the news

1714
01:20:57,840 --> 01:21:00,240
Speaker 1: keep it right here. This is Fox Sports Radio. Ye