Speaker 1: Alex Stee. Oh, I'm a more musical guest. The crypt
Speaker 1: Keeper Ali, Alex Still.
Speaker 2: Alex Steve, I wish the Cryptkeeper were here. You make
Speaker 2: a delightful pun about corpses.
Speaker 3: Two spookiest voices from the opposite ends of the spectrum,
Speaker 3: the crypt Keeper and the guy who introduces Saturday Night
Speaker 3: a buddy cop comedy. With those two, Oh my god,
Speaker 3: I'm in Yeah, that guy doesn't look like a ghost.
Speaker 3: Then my preconceived notions are way off. I can't picture
Speaker 3: what he looks like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have no idea. I don't think I've ever
Speaker 2: seen that man.
Speaker 4: Well it was Daryl Hammond at the fiftieth.
Speaker 2: I think this guy, this, this announcer that we're talking about,
Speaker 2: is dead.
Speaker 3: Now, Yeah, long dead, long dead guy. Don Pardo, horlo.
Speaker 4: Hey, Don Pardo, thank you so much.
Speaker 3: He looks he and he looks part straight out of
Speaker 3: fucking Domodo. You come to me on my daughter's wedding.
Speaker 3: Hello the Internet, and welcome to season three, seventy seven,
Speaker 3: Episode four of DIR Days, I Guys Say, production of iHeartRadio.
Speaker 3: This is a podcast where we take a deep dive
Speaker 3: into America's shared consciousness. And it is Thursday February twenty seventh,
Speaker 3: twenty twenty five. Yes, it's national. What is that the
Speaker 3: last one? No, there's one more right, one more.
Speaker 4: Day on, one more day, one more day or clean
Speaker 4: we then it's time for the vibes of March. National
Speaker 4: Small Dog Day, Pokemon Day, I don't even know there's
Speaker 4: a Pokemon Day. Uh, And Nasmia Awareness Day.
Speaker 3: I don't know what that is.
Speaker 4: National Retro Day, National toast Day. Damn, there's so many motherfuckings.
Speaker 4: National Chili Day, National Polar Bear Day, National Strawberry Day,
Speaker 4: National Kalua Day.
Speaker 3: So got so many people celebrating.
Speaker 4: Oh I see, I see, I see. This is a
Speaker 4: condition where loss of smell.
Speaker 3: That's what that is.
Speaker 2: Oh.
Speaker 3: I have an aunt who lost her smell, and the
Speaker 3: family narrative around it was always that she that my
Speaker 3: grandma left her next to like rotting meat.
Speaker 4: Oh.
Speaker 3: It wasn't until later in life that I was like,
Speaker 3: I can't beat the rest she is.
Speaker 4: She was left by a pile of fetid meats and
Speaker 4: surely lost her sense of smell.
Speaker 3: Okay, anyways, shout out to pokemon and small dogs. I
Speaker 3: stopped listening at that point because that's strawberry pokemon are
Speaker 3: small dogs in many ways, or large dogs anyways. My
Speaker 3: name's Jack O'Brien aka Jack mostly non Newtonian fluids O'Brien
Speaker 3: courtesy of the beating drum on the discord, I have
Speaker 3: been referring to non Newtonian fluids maybe too much, and
Speaker 3: I was like, am I doing it incorrectly? I think
Speaker 3: I've been getting it right, though they are After a
Speaker 3: quick Wikipedia, they are fluids that don't follow Newton's law
Speaker 3: of viscosity, so like they change their viscosity based on
Speaker 3: whether they're under stress, so like catch up becomes runnier
Speaker 3: when shaken and is thus a non Newtonian fluid. But
Speaker 3: the other examples are custard, toothpaste, paint, and blood. So
Speaker 3: I am, in fact, mostly non Newtonian.
Speaker 2: Fluids because you're made of custom little little weird.
Speaker 3: Fact to me, I am, yeah, I am mostly toothpaste
Speaker 3: and custard on the inside. My blood types catch up.
Speaker 3: My blood type is M catch up, sweet and come. Also,
Speaker 3: I did have to look it up that Wikipedia doesn't
Speaker 3: is it. Wikipedia doesn't say whether or not it is
Speaker 3: a non Newtonian fluid, but it is immediate experience did
Speaker 3: some work in the lab and immediately after, what come.
Speaker 1: On my non Newtonian Its fucking three more minutes.
Speaker 3: Anyways, that's me. I'm thrilled to be joined as always
Speaker 3: by my co host mister Miles Grass Miles break a.
Speaker 4: One, receive the email I sent you to list all
Speaker 4: the things you do.
Speaker 3: Three, make your plane. Two, see that your loyalties is
Speaker 3: awf of me, and four make sure you listen to me.
Speaker 3: Five make you work for me. If ever you feel
Speaker 3: like musk he's really done, we will go right back.
Speaker 4: To them and another email making you make the thing
Speaker 4: or else you will get fired. And then I but
Speaker 4: this time, I'm serious, you will get fired. Listen to me,
Speaker 4: not the people you don't anyway. Shout out to Bee
Speaker 4: Noboddy Brown for that Brian McKnight inspired AKA, it's been
Speaker 4: a while since I've been able to see something.
Speaker 3: Just a good manager.
Speaker 4: Yeah, someone hit me with any time. I want to
Speaker 4: Brian McKnight anytime. AKA, it's a great realg That.
Speaker 3: Song, Oh Man broke my twelve year old heart. I
Speaker 3: want to just think about a girl I vaguely had
Speaker 3: a crush on, but oh my god, actually, you know,
Speaker 3: trying to get the feels trying to hide myself up
Speaker 3: because all I all I listened to, all my parents
Speaker 3: listened to is some fucking soft rock shit for a
Speaker 3: lot of the time. So like anytime a good one
Speaker 3: came on, I'd be like, oh yeah, let me let
Speaker 3: me get a good person to think about it. That
Speaker 3: is wilde feelings. For a second, Miles was thrilled to
Speaker 3: be joined in our third seat by one of our
Speaker 3: favorite guests, a very talented zene maker and podcast host,
Speaker 3: one of the hosts of You Are Good, a feelings
Speaker 3: podcast about movies. It's Alex ter.
Speaker 2: Hello. I thought that same way, and JoJo's All my Life.
Speaker 2: I felt the same way, and then forever I was like,
Speaker 2: I think that this song is supposed to be romantic,
Speaker 2: but it sounds like it's to a family member, and
Speaker 2: I recently found out it is a song that they
Speaker 2: wrote for one of their daughters. So I was wrong
Speaker 2: to be having the thoughts I was having when I
Speaker 2: heard that song.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you are kids, but I'm saying, but the
Speaker 4: first line is I will never find another lover beer
Speaker 4: than you.
Speaker 2: I think that they were confused about who the song
Speaker 2: was to it somewhere in the middle.
Speaker 3: Of you can see the drift A lot of times.
Speaker 3: I've been re listening to Blonde with like the lyrics
Speaker 3: on and the lyrics in that album are fucking incredible,
Speaker 3: but they drift from subject to something like it's like
Speaker 3: a day dream, from like one subject to the other.
Speaker 3: Like any attempt to be like this is about one
Speaker 3: thing is like, Nope, it is not it is.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because maybe it must be Jojo because I think
Speaker 4: Casey is the one singing in the beginning.
Speaker 3: About somebody that we fuck.
Speaker 2: Like He's like, it's my daughter, dude.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because they were.
Speaker 4: I promise to never fall in love with a stranger.
Speaker 4: You're all I'm thinking love, I praise the Lord up,
Speaker 4: I cherish every hug and I really love you like
Speaker 4: that feels like something to your daughter.
Speaker 2: Ever mix, every mix, Yeah, someone's.
Speaker 3: It's just Green Days Douchie, But it kicks off with
Speaker 3: that song.
Speaker 2: It was always that hum Stars certainly like the masturbating
Speaker 2: song from Dukie. Yeah, it was a real predictable.
Speaker 5: Ship select as they say, that's right, real predictable select
Speaker 5: shout out to Rada Gan radag rad to Gan has
Speaker 5: taken over, uh the parts of this podcast that we
Speaker 5: don't record for you guys, But we uh have spent
Speaker 5: a lot of the time just watching David Radagan, Is
Speaker 5: that right?
Speaker 3: David? David clips and the sound clashes.
Speaker 4: I'm telling you, these sang sound clashes in the West
Speaker 4: Indies and he's out there with his tucked in polo.
Speaker 3: Just killing it. Killing gets more interesting. Like the more
Speaker 3: times I watched the clip, I'm.
Speaker 4: Like, wow, yeah, well, every yeah, this white dude from
Speaker 4: England is telling all the rasta'man to get their hands up.
Speaker 3: You're like, hell, all right, bro, this is alright.
Speaker 5: Some weird Alex.
Speaker 3: We're gonna get to know you a little bit better
Speaker 3: in a moment. First, we're going to tell the listeners
Speaker 3: a couple of things we're talking about later on. Jeff
Speaker 3: Bezos has found a way to plumbing new depths of
Speaker 3: making the Washington Post worst is it. That's his passion,
Speaker 3: that's his creative project. How do I make this paper
Speaker 3: suck shit? So he's doing that. We'll talk about that.
Speaker 3: We'll talk about Tropicana OJ absolute fucking staple of my
Speaker 3: childhood and it is apparently on its last legs. Oh,
Speaker 3: it's not looking good for trafficano OJ. So we'll talk
Speaker 3: about why that is, we'll talk about Firefest too. Yes,
Speaker 3: it's back.
Speaker 4: Thank god.
Speaker 3: You thought that we'll sindly bring in Trump, running it
Speaker 3: back with Trump as like bad things from twenty sixteen
Speaker 3: to twenty twenty that we're bringing back. Nope, Nope, David
Speaker 3: Bowie's dying again. David Bowie's dying again. We're making hill
Speaker 3: Billy Elogy, not even a sequel, just a reboot with
Speaker 3: new actors. Anyways, we'll talk about fire Festival too. Well,
Speaker 3: we might even talk about GameStop being evil. Oh that
Speaker 3: plenty more. But first, Alex, we do like to ask
Speaker 3: our guest, what is something from your search history.
Speaker 2: I was just looking up I mean, this is I'm
Speaker 2: so sorry to start so grimly, but we found out
Speaker 2: within the hour that Michelle Trachenberg passed Yeah, sadly. Yeah,
Speaker 2: And so I was just looking reviewing her filmography because,
Speaker 2: as I mean, she's a person Whoways started watching on
Speaker 2: TV with On the Adventures of Pete and Pete circa
Speaker 2: nineteen ninety three, and as a person who has just
Speaker 2: always been on television is around my same age, and
Speaker 2: every time you see her in something, you're like, we
Speaker 2: are in for a good time. She plays evil Georgina
Speaker 2: in a gossip Girl just like all's unhinged in the
Speaker 2: most like tremendous or heartworming way.
Speaker 3: So I was looking up Buffy's sister or Fawn.
Speaker 4: Wasn't she like not biole it she's like a spirit,
Speaker 4: like a fake sister, right, don.
Speaker 2: There was I think that there was a uh.
Speaker 3: The film is kind of about found family, if you'll
Speaker 3: allow me this, Yes, yes, yes, it's kind of a
Speaker 3: crazy take, but in many ways it's about you know,
Speaker 3: the family we find along the way, right right, right,
Speaker 3: right right spot.
Speaker 4: I Michelle was a high school classmate of mine. We
Speaker 4: were in the school class. Yeah, yeah, we both we
Speaker 4: both went to the same high school. Yeah, so this this
Speaker 4: was like flying through all my like high school friend
Speaker 4: text threats this morning belist's thirty nine and yeah what
Speaker 4: they I know she was dealing with like a lot
Speaker 4: of health issues.
Speaker 3: And liver stuff. It sounds like, yeah, yeah, really really sad.
Speaker 4: Just wow, I mean yeah, it's just it's yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: don't you don't expect to see those kinds of things
Speaker 4: are just a little It's when you like and Alex
Speaker 4: in the same way, when you see someone of like
Speaker 4: a contemporary.
Speaker 3: So what you're saying it was.
Speaker 4: Like a classmate. You're just like, damn, yeah, she truly
Speaker 4: hang on by a thread.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, for sure, she's always be truly always the best.
Speaker 2: Like I knew, you knew if you saw her name,
Speaker 2: like as yeah, you saw her name in something, You're like,
Speaker 2: even if this is shit, she is gonna She's gonna delivered.
Speaker 3: Eat right, Yeah, that's I love it. Is it track
Speaker 3: Tenberg or tratched?
Speaker 2: I think it's tracked tin Berg track tin Berg?
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, well alright, p what is something that you
Speaker 3: think Alex is underrated?
Speaker 2: I I don't know if it's underrated because I don't
Speaker 2: know how it's being read. I know how it's being
Speaker 2: read outside of the state of Maine, but how it's
Speaker 2: being read inside of the state of Maine is different
Speaker 2: as as I think. You know, I'm originally from the
Speaker 2: state of Maine, and our governor of the state of Maine,
Speaker 2: Janet Mills, did a little Trump clap back this week,
Speaker 2: and I think like it's being properly raided by anyone
Speaker 2: outside of the state of Maine, and I think people
Speaker 2: inside of the state of main have like weird sort
Speaker 2: of conflicted partisan feelings about it, but I just want
Speaker 2: to say that it should be better rated than it is,
Speaker 2: that at least one governor had in Maine had the
Speaker 2: strength to push back against extreme government over.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I mean Trump really showed how strong he
Speaker 4: was by just picking on the woman in the room immediately.
Speaker 3: To fucking be like, where are you at. You're not
Speaker 3: gonna comply?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Yeah, people you Yeah, well I'll see you in court.
Speaker 4: And when he said okay, well we'll see you in court. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 4: Well and that went really easy, like.
Speaker 3: It turned into like a weird fucking bingo hall argument,
Speaker 3: last word off yeah all right, so oh yeah yeah,
Speaker 3: good luck with that ship.
Speaker 2: And it just makes it like puts me at a
Speaker 2: total loss for why everyone who disagrees with them doesn't
Speaker 2: do it, because I know that obviously they're gonna do
Speaker 2: some sort of like uh insane theory, you know, theatric
Speaker 2: investigation or whatever in order to do it, But like
Speaker 2: he just looks so silly when anyone says nah no.
Speaker 4: Yeah, right, oh, because she's like, we're gonna I think
Speaker 4: the line was like, well, we're going to comply with
Speaker 4: a federal I was like, yeah, well what I am
Speaker 4: that federal law?
Speaker 3: Alright, all right.
Speaker 4: Famous famous there Don Don Pardo, Don, thank you so
Speaker 4: much for coming to my daughter's wedding.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and so you're saying that in Maine people are
Speaker 3: mad because people people I.
Speaker 2: Know who I who I like and respect, but maybe
Speaker 2: have different political opinions on it, or you know, are
Speaker 2: kind of reading it like why are we threatening our
Speaker 2: state funding by like taking on this fight, And it's like, well,
Speaker 2: we're doing it because we're practical.
Speaker 3: Government overreaches bad in the end, might be bad.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. People there are there are well
Speaker 2: meaning people who see this because they don't see trans
Speaker 2: people as equal and don't realize that, you know, there
Speaker 2: are like what a handful of visibly or sort of
Speaker 2: like or identifiably trans people who play sports at this
Speaker 2: level in the first place. So this is just an
Speaker 2: entirely made up fight. They imagine that this is a
Speaker 2: silly thing to put state funding at risk for, when
Speaker 2: in fact it's like, yeah, you should push back against
Speaker 2: this in any form that it comes up. This is bad,
Speaker 2: I guess. Yeah.
Speaker 4: When you say, like, I think we have different political
Speaker 4: views yours, Alex being I like to speak up against
Speaker 4: stuff and they're like, they keep your fucking head low, man, man,
Speaker 4: shut your.
Speaker 3: Fuck up with that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I am allergic to keeping my head low.
Speaker 3: So yeah, welcome. You would have done bad in World
Speaker 3: War One, but we're glad you're here now. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I have guys, I have been told by snipers that
Speaker 2: I would not do well in the battle.
Speaker 3: All right, what is what's something you think is overrated?
Speaker 2: We've probably covered this in one way or another, but
Speaker 2: like the Elon Rogan style of free speech, where it's
Speaker 2: just a cover for being terrible and racist and horrible,
Speaker 2: while actual free speech is constantly incredibly under attack by
Speaker 2: this existing administration.
Speaker 4: Yea right comedy is legal again.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, free speech as long as it's me
Speaker 2: being able to say something stupid and not being able
Speaker 2: to say something honest like that is I hope that that.
Speaker 2: I hope that everything we're watching right now drives and
Speaker 2: nail in that confident.
Speaker 3: You would think. So it feel it feels like they
Speaker 3: are doing a fantastic job of like driving the backlash,
Speaker 3: and the backlash does seem to be happening, like at
Speaker 3: a grassroots level. But I also it's the thing that
Speaker 3: seems weird to me about the response is really like
Speaker 3: the media just like not really being able to mount
Speaker 3: any sort of criticism or like just like talk about
Speaker 3: the truth. They're just like been so thoroughly beaten.
Speaker 4: They've done a great job they're doing They've really perfected
Speaker 4: it the last ten years or so.
Speaker 3: True.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: That is Yeah, that sames thing. And I think there's
Speaker 2: also this extremely online tendency where people who have like
Speaker 2: I feel like decent takes that I agree with. Imagine
Speaker 2: that like everybody in the population receives information in the
Speaker 2: same exact way, and some people make evil decisions with
Speaker 2: that information, and other people make inherently just in good
Speaker 2: decisions with that information. And like the reality is like
Speaker 2: we just have no idea what the other people around
Speaker 2: us are getting by way of a narrative, by way
Speaker 2: of like either social media or sort of like what
Speaker 2: news is given to them. We just have terrifyingly little
Speaker 2: idea about what other people are experiencing by way of
Speaker 2: their reality. Yeah, but uh yeah, I like to think
Speaker 2: that some people are pushing back. I think going to
Speaker 2: those tesla protests, those have been fun.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, and the ones in Europe.
Speaker 2: You mean, no, there's a bunch here. There's been a
Speaker 2: bunch here where people will go in front of uh.
Speaker 2: I think there's a website related to it called Tesla Takedown.
Speaker 2: Alex Winter has been really sort of promoting these And
Speaker 2: if you go to the showrooms and stand outside with
Speaker 2: signs that say Elon's kids disowned him for a reason
Speaker 2: such as my my sign says, and you make it
Speaker 2: awkward for people to have to go into the Tesla dealership.
Speaker 3: Who is still going into Tesla dealership? I mean, I
Speaker 3: guess people who just taking a book are happy that
Speaker 3: comedy is legal, right.
Speaker 4: I mean, it's like the same things, like they're kind
Speaker 4: of it's like the pro Lifer playbook. Oh yeah, for sure,
Speaker 4: from the out in front of planned parenthood, like it'll
Speaker 4: just make it uncomfortable. And not to say like they're
Speaker 4: like how dare they? But I mean it's the sort
Speaker 4: of same logic you're using. Is to make it it's
Speaker 4: uncomfortable for a person to enter this physical building.
Speaker 2: Well, the idea is to rather than just use it
Speaker 2: as awareness, which it does and is great, and so
Speaker 2: there's always a nice reception or whatever, it's to like,
Speaker 2: it's to affect adversely the Tesla Stock.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, which is a huge part of his wealth, right, yeah,
Speaker 4: huh yeah.
Speaker 3: But free speech currently defined as being able to make
Speaker 3: fun of the powerless and punched down and not excluding
Speaker 3: being able to make fun of the powerful, and that
Speaker 3: is that, and that's the free speech that we really
Speaker 3: need to protect.
Speaker 4: In the free speech is everybody shut the fuck up
Speaker 4: and only whatever I say, just agree with it.
Speaker 2: Yes, okay, I'm I'm a big fan. There's an organization
Speaker 2: called the Free Speech Coalition which fights a lot of
Speaker 2: court cases against pornography, which are specifically important because typically
Speaker 2: being able to broadly define anything as pornography as a
Speaker 2: way of censoring speech, especially queer speech, that is like
Speaker 2: a huge tactic by the right. So I am a
Speaker 2: huge supporter of this group called the Free Speech Coalition,
Speaker 2: which which fights these battles at the court level. They
Speaker 2: were at the Supreme Court last month doing one of
Speaker 2: these age verification fights, So I think that that's an
Speaker 2: important But yeah, whenever the exactly Jackie said it so perfectly,
Speaker 2: I haven't heard it said that way. But it's like, yeah,
Speaker 2: this brand of free speech where you're allowed to punch
Speaker 2: you down, but anyone who calls up, punching up is
Speaker 2: somehow should be arrested.
Speaker 3: Don't think that, Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah that's I'm
Speaker 3: It's not being said in the mainstream media, but I
Speaker 3: feel like it has to have been said behind closed doors,
Speaker 3: like it has to be like the okay, this is
Speaker 3: the subtext of Project twenty twenty five, right, this is
Speaker 3: you just can't We need to make people feel empowered
Speaker 3: about making fun of unhoused people, right, and then also
Speaker 3: somehow make them okay with us using our men's power
Speaker 3: to come down on anybody who says anything mean about us, Right,
Speaker 3: don't don't ever say anything that will even fucking give
Speaker 3: me a shred of self awareness.
Speaker 4: Try that Ship's speech.
Speaker 2: The doubling, the doubling down on I can't believe as
Speaker 2: like a person who's like a young punk is saying this.
Speaker 2: But I just like can't believe how the present politic
Speaker 2: right now is just like a tripling or quadrupling down
Speaker 2: on fighting kindness. Right, It's so weird to just be
Speaker 2: like we have the right to be unkind Yeah, fuck off.
Speaker 3: As a as a young punk. And I mean that
Speaker 3: as like an older person calling you a young punk
Speaker 3: as a young punk, do you feel like we lost
Speaker 3: some of the battle, half the battle when selling out
Speaker 3: stopped being a thing that anyone gave a shit about.
Speaker 3: It was just like, Noah, I get your bag.
Speaker 2: I guess I yeah, I mean that feels like I
Speaker 2: absolutely seriously, it felt like when when it was okay
Speaker 2: to have like sacred songs and car commercials was really
Speaker 2: where maybe the plot was.
Speaker 3: Lost, right, we stopped being mad at bands for selling out,
Speaker 3: and now now look at us, look at us. Now,
Speaker 3: all right, let's uh, let's take a quick break and
Speaker 3: we'll be right back. And we're back. We're back, and
Speaker 3: there's one guy who's still out here standing up for freeze.
Speaker 3: Oh no, wait, he's doing the thing that we were
Speaker 3: just talking about. Jeff Bezos bend your knees, A standoffish?
Speaker 3: What are he? Low touch owner of the Washington Post.
Speaker 3: He's just he's not here to make anybody do anything. Yeah,
Speaker 3: he called himself a hands off owner when he first
Speaker 3: purchased the Washington Post. He just emailed his staff informing
Speaker 3: them that the Washington Post opinion section will soon change
Speaker 3: and focus on the quote support and defense of two pillars,
Speaker 3: personal liberties and free markets.
Speaker 4: Cool cool, cool, cool, yeah.
Speaker 3: So yeah, He did stop short of suggesting that there
Speaker 3: would be more articles about why baldness is hot and
Speaker 3: how holding your ar end twelve hour shifts is good
Speaker 3: for your ab builds at bubles. It's greatore exercise, good core.
Speaker 3: But it's I think we'll probably get there. He probably
Speaker 3: didn't need to say those. But these are yeah, personal liberties,
Speaker 3: you know, which they they will define as like me
Speaker 3: being able to do whatever the fuck I want as
Speaker 3: an incredibly wealthy person. Yeah, and free markets. So fucking wow.
Speaker 4: He didn't not even subtle about this HyET too. It's like,
Speaker 4: I mean, I guess you know. That's where people should
Speaker 4: continue to realize that this corporate media is absolutely an
Speaker 4: unreliable narrator for anything happening in your life. When they're like,
Speaker 4: fucking stop talking about this. This this letter goes on quote.
Speaker 4: We'll cover other topics too, of course, but viewpoints opposing
Speaker 4: those pillars will be left to be published by others.
Speaker 4: There was a time when a newspaper, especially when that
Speaker 4: was a local monopoly, might have seen it as a
Speaker 4: service to bring to the reader's doorstep every morning a
Speaker 4: broad based opinion section that sought to cover all of yous. Today,
Speaker 4: the Internet does that job.
Speaker 3: And the Internet is nailing it. Thank you, the Internet. Yeah,
Speaker 3: crushing it. No notes, no notes, the Internet. Yeah, I
Speaker 3: mean I will say I feel like the Washington Post
Speaker 3: and the New York Times have been not doing a
Speaker 3: great job for a while now, so like this is
Speaker 3: not to be like, look what we've lost the you
Speaker 3: know the I used to go to the Washington Post
Speaker 3: opinion sections. But it does feel like we're losing something right,
Speaker 3: Like it feels it feels weird, like I said up top,
Speaker 3: like just the complete absence of any coherent criticism. It
Speaker 3: feels a little bit like is this really really happening?
Speaker 3: You know, like because nobody nobody's like saying it outright.
Speaker 3: They're not saying like the federal government has fallen to
Speaker 3: Elon Musk, you know, like when they can't podcasts are
Speaker 3: saying that, but like the Yeah, the New York Times
Speaker 3: Washington Post are not saying that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they're still treating it like, oh, look at this
Speaker 4: curious case of fuckery and DC rather.
Speaker 2: Than they like they'll call it like a management style,
Speaker 2: which is like such an interesting I mean, it's like
Speaker 2: it feels almost cliche to talk about like how orwellian
Speaker 2: some of this stuff is. But yeah, they'll like talk
Speaker 2: about a literal prolonged coup attempt as like a clash
Speaker 2: in management style, right, and you're like, what the fuck
Speaker 2: are we doing?
Speaker 3: Hands on? Yes, but yeah, the yeah that in this
Speaker 3: seven part series, we will use the Myers Briggs test
Speaker 3: to analyze Trump's uh peccadillos as a manager.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, exactly right.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I mean I think this is more just like one
Speaker 4: of those things you tell like live people in your
Speaker 4: like the libs in your life to be like, see
Speaker 4: even Bezel, you can't even trust your your Washington posts now,
Speaker 4: like they're all in on just basically completely you know,
Speaker 4: creating manufacturing consent for whatever they're going to do in
Speaker 4: DC so he can so he can sit on his
Speaker 4: little coins. I feel like we just don't make fun
Speaker 4: of Jeff Bezos enough, Like how the fuck is this
Speaker 4: guy still walking around here in these dumb ass tight
Speaker 4: silk shirts and shiit looking like a walking midlife crisis,
Speaker 4: and people just like, you know, looking like.
Speaker 2: Lex Luthor, Like yeah, all of these guys are are
Speaker 2: Lex Luthor, And somehow we're just like physically actually manifesting
Speaker 2: the role, which is, yeah.
Speaker 4: You think he like presses out like some fucking chest
Speaker 4: presses and looks in the mirrors.
Speaker 3: Like yeah sex Oh yeah, I'm sex Luthor. Yeah he's
Speaker 3: seen sex Luthor the screen name. Yeah, that's his American
Speaker 3: psycho moment. He does like fucking in the mirrors.
Speaker 2: Like your sex luthor of Jeff. I bet he fucks
Speaker 2: so weird. Oh yeah, I don't want it.
Speaker 3: Is so interesting, like I do. I've always been a
Speaker 3: big believer in like the power of films as like
Speaker 3: the dreams of uh you know, of a society like you,
Speaker 3: they are manifesting, you know, our culture is manifesting like
Speaker 3: various things. And it's so weird that yeah, we like,
Speaker 3: like the Superman myth got so specific, like nailped so
Speaker 3: many details of this fucking guy. There's just like he's
Speaker 3: gonna be bald and like weird and probably try and
Speaker 3: get muscular at some point. Yeah yeah, yea, anyways, not great. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I don't like it.
Speaker 2: I don't like it.
Speaker 3: So that record is we're giving one star out of four.
Speaker 2: I don't think, like I'm really like I've been trying
Speaker 2: because some people listen to what I say for some
Speaker 2: reason to just like when people feel powerless, like encourage
Speaker 2: them to do something. And I feel like even small
Speaker 2: things like subscribing to indie media or like journalists who
Speaker 2: are doing the real job. I think that that's all
Speaker 2: great and it's important, and I so strongly encourage it.
Speaker 2: But even then you think about the fact that like
Speaker 2: now that reporting is just is to you know, to
Speaker 2: use it now expires to look and like balkanized. It's
Speaker 2: like every there's just like little clusters of reporting over
Speaker 2: here and over here and over here. And the fact
Speaker 2: that there isn't any reliable place, even though these places
Speaker 2: weren't even like really reliable in the first place, sort
Speaker 2: of assembling those narratives in a place where like people
Speaker 2: are more likely to see them than not. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: again I don't like it.
Speaker 3: Not good, Yeah, really, I mean it's it's also I
Speaker 3: think because a lot of people had for so long
Speaker 3: put their faith in the big d democratic like version
Speaker 3: of things and like the mainstream media, and like you know,
Speaker 3: had spent a lot of faith on that, like this
Speaker 3: is going to be painful and like further demoralizing to
Speaker 3: people who were still in that place of being like
Speaker 3: Joe Biden's gonna get elected. He's he's fine, yeah, Kamala hair.
Speaker 3: You know all these ends our big institutions.
Speaker 4: How you look at it though, But because you could say,
Speaker 4: for decades the media has failed like the LGBTQ community,
Speaker 4: people of color, disabled, people like this, they were always
Speaker 4: doing the ship. But now like as they strike off
Speaker 4: more and more groups that they're like, well, we're gonna
Speaker 4: talk about this ship. We're gonn talk about this ship.
Speaker 4: We're now it's like we're getting up higher where it's
Speaker 4: like you're.
Speaker 3: Not gonna talk about this anymore.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we're just like they've been whittling away like this
Speaker 4: kind of coverage to again obscure except for American people.
Speaker 4: Just how terrible the ills that many of us face
Speaker 4: are with actual journalism, and those journalists who do it,
Speaker 4: credit to them because it is happening. But to your point, Alex,
Speaker 4: it's not happening in a centralized place or a place
Speaker 4: that's mainstream enough where people can connect the dots, because again.
Speaker 3: We all understand what's at stake here. For people like
Speaker 3: Jeff Bezos, they don't want people to fully connect.
Speaker 4: The dots obviously, so it's better to just do this
Speaker 4: kind of shit and hopefully again that's what I'm saying,
Speaker 4: Like this is for like probably well to do white
Speaker 4: liberal people who are still believing like in the Washington
Speaker 4: Post or New York Times, you're like, y'all come on, now,
Speaker 4: come on, I.
Speaker 2: Will say, I will say a thing that has changed.
Speaker 2: Is this happened this morning? Is my mother will text
Speaker 2: me and she'll be like, I saw this news story.
Speaker 2: Does this come from a reputable source or I saw
Speaker 2: I like, I don't I want the Democrats to get
Speaker 2: in charge. Who should I give money to? Should I
Speaker 2: give it to like the larger sort of senate organization?
Speaker 2: Should I give it to directly to people? And she
Speaker 2: I know that this is not necessarily common, but it
Speaker 2: is really nice to see someone who's born in the
Speaker 2: fifties not just like accept the whole thing and go, yeah,
Speaker 2: I realize that things are changing. I don't know how
Speaker 2: to act accordingly. Can you like point me in a direction?
Speaker 4: Yeah, because there is something I think that just does
Speaker 4: feel in it in your bones? Wrong, yes, And that
Speaker 4: even then even if you are like a solid boomer
Speaker 4: who again comes from the air of like but it
Speaker 4: was on the TV, of course, you know what I mean?
Speaker 4: And to that point. Yeah, I mean it is, there's
Speaker 4: I think people again, people are feeling it. But yeah,
Speaker 4: hopefully more people can really put it all together.
Speaker 3: The fraud is so pervasive at every single level. You know,
Speaker 3: it's like the President is basically their thanks to fraud,
Speaker 3: and people are you know, our text messages that we
Speaker 3: get on a daily basis are like fifty percent attempts
Speaker 3: at fraud, and you know the calls that you get
Speaker 3: are like fifty percent scam likely mostly your email in
Speaker 3: box has been taken over.
Speaker 4: That's me trying to communicate with you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, I mean, okay, then please stop at
Speaker 3: talking about exciting business opportunities in every subject.
Speaker 4: Well, Jack, you haven't just so you know, you haven't
Speaker 4: paid your express Lane toll that you violated in five
Speaker 4: days now, and I'm just trying to help you out.
Speaker 3: Express Lane.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we have been trying to deliver this package for
Speaker 2: quite some time.
Speaker 3: That's right. So I feel like it's getting so thoroughly
Speaker 3: broken that it makes sense to me that more and
Speaker 3: more people are just going to be like, all right,
Speaker 3: well now I can't trust fucking anything. I've had to
Speaker 3: like talk to some elderly family members about like, no,
Speaker 3: you can't click on that, Like that's actually not helping
Speaker 3: me clean your phone. That's going to be Yeah, that's
Speaker 3: why we need to get a new one now.
Speaker 2: That shit scares me where it's like especially with like
Speaker 2: deep fake voices that can call with the voice of
Speaker 2: a family member. I mean it is. I have set
Speaker 2: up a system with like people I know and love
Speaker 2: that we like write down and don't text it back
Speaker 2: and forth. We write down the code word we would
Speaker 2: say to prove who we are in case we get
Speaker 2: one of those distressing calls.
Speaker 3: And what is the code word? Just ye no, I'll
Speaker 3: I thought I'm going to say, because you're like the
Speaker 3: code word, which I was like Wheeler Steel.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it is. It is su pervasive that it's like,
Speaker 2: you know, you're lucky if five percent of your inbound
Speaker 2: communication is like authentic.
Speaker 3: Yes exactly. All right, Well, speaking of authentic, I want
Speaker 3: to go back to a foundational brand in my childhood,
Speaker 3: that is it's in trouble. Yeah, and for the low
Speaker 3: price of a cup of coffee, you can help. They
Speaker 3: should start doing like those you know p s a
Speaker 3: like ads that tug at your heart straight but for
Speaker 3: corporation corporate a difficult time. Yeah, but yeah, there's a
Speaker 3: lot of reporting going on that Tropicana oj is and
Speaker 3: is headed for tough places funny.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, the revenues apparently are falling. Uh. And then
Speaker 4: recently thei Pai Partners, the European private equity firm that
Speaker 4: took a controlling ownership stake, like a few long ago
Speaker 4: years ago, from four years ago, they recently gave them
Speaker 4: thirty million in emergency and like a thirty million dollar
Speaker 4: emergency loan to Tropicana. They said, we were like a lender
Speaker 4: of last resort, so private equity is involved. But from
Speaker 4: what I can read and find, it seems like they
Speaker 4: were actually trying to make the brand profitable. They're like, oh,
Speaker 4: we can turn this brand up because like it's hard
Speaker 4: to see how it could be cannibalized from the inside
Speaker 4: when they are trying to throw cash at the problems,
Speaker 4: Like fuck, fuck, fuck, what the fuck are we doing wrong.
Speaker 4: It can't just be that orange juice is now so
Speaker 4: hard to make because of climate change, and also people
Speaker 4: are much more conscious about sugar intake. Those can't be
Speaker 4: the things. But for example, like the things again, because
Speaker 4: you'll always read these things sometimes they'll just blame like,
Speaker 4: you know, consumers are less interested, and they are they
Speaker 4: are saying that, But I believe the reasons that they're
Speaker 4: saying why consumers are less interested, Like the sugar intake,
Speaker 4: people are much more conscious about like damn, I need
Speaker 4: to be drinking like a bunch of sugar, like all
Speaker 4: the time.
Speaker 2: I'll have a glass of juice on like the plane,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, we used to do this all the time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, all the time.
Speaker 4: I used to fucking pound minute made orange juice out
Speaker 4: of a half gallon container that had added vitamin D.
Speaker 4: That's what my mom was like, Oh, yeah you can,
Speaker 4: you can rock with Yeah, it has added vitamin D.
Speaker 3: It is water with vitamin in it. Like that is
Speaker 3: how I thought of propaganda. I was like, why would
Speaker 3: I drink water when I can get healthier by drinking
Speaker 3: this thing that tastes like I just bit into an orange.
Speaker 2: It's really crazy how different, like how different thirty years
Speaker 2: ago was where you're like, our parents were told there
Speaker 2: was one vitamin in it and.
Speaker 3: Yehead, go ahead destroy yourself that Now it is viewed
Speaker 3: like you're letting your kids smoke, like letting your kids
Speaker 3: just drink juice freely is like it we so, you know,
Speaker 3: I have a seven and eight year old and juice
Speaker 3: is doled out in tiny juice boxes only at birthday parties,
Speaker 3: one at a time, and the shit is like methadone
Speaker 3: juice where it's like stepped on with water. Like I've
Speaker 3: tasted it. It doesn't even taste like juice. It's like, yeah,
Speaker 3: it's they have water that shit down like as a
Speaker 3: favor to us, because juice is so bad. It's it
Speaker 3: is like letting your kids smoke.
Speaker 4: Is we're basically sniffing base cocaine base like the juice
Speaker 4: form in our day. We're like yeah, bro, fucking straight
Speaker 4: to the dome half gallon and one day watching me.
Speaker 2: But because it's now seen as child abuse, like Jack said,
Speaker 2: but it's also like you can get measles. That's fine,
Speaker 2: but you.
Speaker 3: Can't have yeah, exactly too much juice? Is that honest juice?
Speaker 4: No, then my child cannot drink it. Get it away,
Speaker 4: Get it away now.
Speaker 3: Well, my kids have a glass of orange juice as
Speaker 3: a treat. They are high for like twenty days. They're
Speaker 3: like so why They're like yo, yeah, like yo, why
Speaker 3: don't you tell me about it like, is this just LA,
Speaker 3: because I'm like surprised that this hasn't just crashed out more.
Speaker 2: Well I do. I am in like I'm so sorry
Speaker 2: I keep talking about me, and but I'm there quite
Speaker 2: often and like they're juice has fallen off across the
Speaker 2: juice hath fallen.
Speaker 4: We can't announce your juice has fallen, folks. The other thing, though, too,
Speaker 4: is prices, right, because again, oranges are very hard to harvest. Now,
Speaker 4: like Hurricane Milton. This is one person who's like the
Speaker 4: head of the Florida Citrus Mutual Advocacy Hurricane Milton. Oh no, no,
Speaker 4: Matt Joyner, Hurricane Milton, head of the right said quote,
Speaker 4: Hurricane Milton came across the center of the state and
Speaker 4: really impacted probably seventy percent of the most productive citrus
Speaker 4: acreage in Florida. And then it's not this article in
Speaker 4: the CNN goes on, it's like, it's not just atmospheric
Speaker 4: disasters that have devastated the industry. Orange production in the
Speaker 4: US has declined in recent years due to the spread
Speaker 4: of citrus greening disease of bacterial infection that cuts off
Speaker 4: key nutrients to orange trees, which first hit Florida twenty
Speaker 4: years ago. Add on top of that, Canada is making
Speaker 4: eyes at Brazil's orange juice market to cut the US
Speaker 4: out of it over all the tariff shit, and they're like, well,
Speaker 4: fuck your brother, the Brazilian orange juice is cheaper like metal.
Speaker 4: Why don't we just skip these fucking weirdos to the
Speaker 4: south of US, the US, not Brazilians, And now take
Speaker 4: the Brazilian oj just retaliatory. So this again, this is
Speaker 4: this all it all comes together. And then the price,
Speaker 4: the price of orange juice has almost basically like doubled
Speaker 4: since twenty twenty. And so that now also on top
Speaker 4: of people being like, damn, do I really want to
Speaker 4: drink all this shit? And now it's cost four dollars
Speaker 4: and fifty cents for twelve ounce a twelve ounce bottle
Speaker 4: of orange juice, like brod, keep be drinking a fucking
Speaker 4: like malt liquor for cheap water.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. I got man.
Speaker 4: I used to fuck with brass Monkey, but not anymore.
Speaker 2: And this is an absolute side note, but I I am,
Speaker 2: I'm forty plus and so I'm trying to take care
Speaker 2: of my digestive stuff. And this relates to the breakfast style.
Speaker 2: I tried to get anything with fiber in it, and
Speaker 2: we as a country stopped that entirely. Nothing as fiber,
Speaker 2: and it all has added protein. Yeah what are we doing?
Speaker 3: Yeah, gotta get swollen wool.
Speaker 4: Tim Ferriss. Tim Ferriss won basically.
Speaker 2: With the added protein.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeh yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, no for real, it's like what the fuck look
Speaker 4: even like baby juice like fruit pouches, like baby food pouches.
Speaker 4: I'm seeing that she's like, hey, added loaded with protein,
Speaker 4: and like.
Speaker 2: They turned every car into an F three P fifty
Speaker 2: for some reason, and you're like, you know, we're just
Speaker 2: need to get from.
Speaker 4: Point like my child is not bulking right, Like I
Speaker 4: just want some shit with like some fucking fiber, Like
Speaker 4: the fuck, but yeah, I mean again. The other thing
Speaker 4: that they point to also is that like when you
Speaker 4: go to like a Smart and Final or like cheaper
Speaker 4: grocery stores, especially in low income areas, people just aren't
Speaker 4: fucking with it just at all anymore. And that's a
Speaker 4: huge hit because something that used to be this like
Speaker 4: I think when it was cheaper, it was easier, everyone
Speaker 4: like yeah, fuck, I'll get some orange juice. But now
Speaker 4: it's it's it's expensive. It's also just too like it's
Speaker 4: not the healthiest, although that might not be everyone's calculus,
Speaker 4: it's it's getting a little.
Speaker 3: Bit hard for them to peddle that OJ. Still remember,
Speaker 3: like they they used to be fucking balling. Like I
Speaker 3: remember there was this like business article I read in
Speaker 3: the nineties about how like the demand for tropic cana
Speaker 3: was like shooting through the roof so much that they
Speaker 3: had to like invent these like silos that were completely
Speaker 3: vacuum like could there was no air able to get
Speaker 3: into them, and so they would like take the OJ
Speaker 3: from like the orange juice factory, put it in a
Speaker 3: completely air tight truck, take it to these silos that
Speaker 3: were like completely vacuum sealed, and then like because there
Speaker 3: was no air there at all, you would not be
Speaker 3: able to like like they wouldn't go bad. And like
Speaker 3: that's how they were able to like handle the quantities
Speaker 3: of orange juice that people were demanding from them. The
Speaker 3: only side effect of that, and I think this also
Speaker 3: might be part of the story, The only side effect
Speaker 3: of that is that when you keep orange juice vacuum
Speaker 3: sealed away for like three years, it loses all its flavor,
Speaker 3: and so they had to figure out a way to
Speaker 3: get the flavor to come back. So they had to
Speaker 3: like basically create a like orange perfuming tactic that like
Speaker 3: added the flavor the scent of oranges into this like
Speaker 3: zombie orange juice that had been that is like years old,
Speaker 3: but still gets to be called like fresh squeezed because
Speaker 3: of some fucking you know thing that they lobbied the
Speaker 3: FDA for. It's just a wild story that I'm sure
Speaker 3: you know. There's a noticeable drop in quality from like
Speaker 3: the orange juice that we were getting from Tropic Cannon
Speaker 3: in the nineties early nineties and that we were sniffing
Speaker 3: base we were sniffing straight up, y'all would have died.
Speaker 4: Y'all would have died sniffing the shit.
Speaker 3: I will still, like, if there is like genuinely like
Speaker 3: fresh squeezed orange juice somewhere like and those these oranges
Speaker 3: with that like you can see being squeezed, I will
Speaker 3: get that shit. And that shit is like the greatest
Speaker 3: thing that I'm like, we shouldn't have it this good
Speaker 3: as human Like, this shit is just we fucking good.
Speaker 3: We don't deserve this, and it's gone. Yeah. Uh and
Speaker 3: but like, yeah, compared that to the shit in Tropic Cana,
Speaker 3: I feel I feel like.
Speaker 4: They also did the thing recently too, where like they
Speaker 4: shrunk the bottle to not raise prices and people are
Speaker 4: like what the fuck.
Speaker 2: Are you doing?
Speaker 3: Like, well, you don't want to ruse prices.
Speaker 4: And they're like you basically, are you dumb?
Speaker 2: Fuck?
Speaker 4: You're giving giving me less volume for the price?
Speaker 3: What do you think that is? Try to hide it? Yeah,
Speaker 3: all right, that's all.
Speaker 2: That's all it us.
Speaker 4: That's that's where I do see a bit of the
Speaker 4: private equity thinking creeping in. But again, I think they're
Speaker 4: just dealing with a product that is just just waning
Speaker 4: in popularity for sure. Yeah, unless we find it a
Speaker 4: you know, arawan and then we will play. We'll gladly
Speaker 4: pay twenty five dollars.
Speaker 3: For twenty of that is to say that place exists,
Speaker 3: is it? I feel like people outside of La probably
Speaker 3: don't know about Arawon, but.
Speaker 4: They probably do because it's so like in Mesh. I
Speaker 4: don't know, not that everyone, but it's so in Mesh
Speaker 4: with celebrity culture that like it's any paparazzi photos like
Speaker 4: so and so coming out of Arawon because I see
Speaker 4: people that there's like there's an Arawon in Studio City
Speaker 4: that I see people just hanging around to take photos at,
Speaker 4: like people I think are coming to Arawon's like there's
Speaker 4: even one by the grove where people just want to
Speaker 4: fucking stunt in front of an Arawon.
Speaker 3: Don't go there, bro.
Speaker 2: I did have someone I had a friend here from
Speaker 2: Toronto and they wanted to stop buy one for as all.
Speaker 3: Yeah, our family are our family friends from Australia. Their
Speaker 3: daughter was like, all right, I'm in La. This is
Speaker 3: what I want to do. Take me to Arowon and
Speaker 3: people are kicking it to try and see celebrities too.
Speaker 4: It's just like again, it's just become like synonymous with
Speaker 4: all of that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, So I guess everybody knows what Thank You.
Speaker 4: Youth Correspondent producer Victor said in the chat. There are
Speaker 4: so many tiktoks and YouTube videos that go like testing
Speaker 4: how good Arowon is. Yeah, people, it's like it's just part.
Speaker 3: Of the zeitgeist.
Speaker 2: The zeit geist.
Speaker 3: All right, let's take a quick break and we'll be
Speaker 3: back to talk about Fire Festival too, and we're back.
Speaker 3: I guess this is like the scam episode because Fire
Speaker 3: Festival two is back. Maybe Fire Festival is back. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it does feel like a concerted effort to just be like,
Speaker 3: all right, everything twenty sixteen to twenty twenty, we're running
Speaker 3: it back. We did not like the pandemic, so we're
Speaker 3: just going to try and relive everything from before that
Speaker 3: and maybe maybe it'll go back to that. Billy McFarlane,
Speaker 3: fresh out of prison for doing a festival one, is
Speaker 3: holding Fire Festival two from May thirtieth to June second
Speaker 3: on the Mexican island of Islam Muhades and tickets just
Speaker 3: went on sale this week. So I don't So here's
Speaker 3: here's my conundrum, Miles. I don't want all of that
Speaker 3: to know that you bought tickets. I don't want all
Speaker 3: our listeners to turn off the podcast and go buy
Speaker 3: these tickets. It's like we're going to see such a
Speaker 3: fall off in listenership at this moment. But I do
Speaker 3: feel like it is our duty to report these incredible
Speaker 3: deals to you. Yeah, so tickets are available for as
Speaker 3: low as fourteen hundred dollars, great, go on, say okay,
Speaker 3: but yes, I know so you're thinking, wow, what a deal.
Speaker 3: How is that possible? There's also a twenty five thousand
Speaker 3: dollars option, which includes two tickets and access to the
Speaker 3: fight pit, not some kind of clever name. That is
Speaker 3: literally just a fight workers fight to the death for
Speaker 3: your entertainment. I mean MMA fighters who you know on
Speaker 3: the side because old time employees. I don't know how
Speaker 3: MMA contracts out, but entirely possible. Yeah, you just watch
Speaker 3: them fight each other there, just straight up fucking squid game. Ship.
Speaker 3: It's like, what, let's let's do a squid game. People
Speaker 3: would pay for that. Yeah. You you also get artist
Speaker 3: access to the festival grounds so well, and we'll get
Speaker 3: into the artists in question in a second backstage, access
Speaker 3: to the water stage pit side access to the fight pit, uh,
Speaker 3: a curated itinerary of fire experiences, Phoenix transportation throughout the weekend,
Speaker 3: presumably just golf carts. You get golf carts and access
Speaker 3: to fire concierge.
Speaker 4: But all that is so vague. I'm at the website
Speaker 4: right now. They say all these things, but there's nothing.
Speaker 4: I don't know what the guy is.
Speaker 2: Did you guys listen to a friend of your show
Speaker 2: and friend of our show, Jamie Loftus's Haley Welch.
Speaker 3: Talk to Yeah. I listened to Yeah.
Speaker 2: She did like a bonus part where she talks to
Speaker 2: like z tron is tron? Is that the same about
Speaker 2: about that whole phenomenon? And his take is basically like
Speaker 2: our entire economy is rug pulls. Now, Like the entire
Speaker 2: economy is like, use the brand to sell enough stuff
Speaker 2: real quickly up front before people accept that it's a scam.
Speaker 2: And even our commitment to dark irony makes this thing
Speaker 2: a thing that people will will do and then they'll
Speaker 2: complain when it's essentially an obvious rug bull. But I,
Speaker 2: day by day ever since I heard him say that,
Speaker 2: I was like, ah, fuck yours all right, Yeah, everything's
Speaker 2: a rug bull, Like the cyber truck, think about the
Speaker 2: cyber track, like that whole thing.
Speaker 4: Are you going with this this? It's a fucking sick
Speaker 4: ass car, dude.
Speaker 3: It's a well executed rugule. I would say, like they did.
Speaker 4: It seems having to wear swastika is in public.
Speaker 2: I know that that's been a problem for you. I
Speaker 2: you know, I knows T shirts.
Speaker 4: I'm a person of color, and you're like, come on,
Speaker 4: you're doing it for shock value. I'm like, well, I'm
Speaker 4: half Japanese that they were part of the axes.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying with a very specific population.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I think the main question on people's minds
Speaker 3: right now is how could those tickets be that cheap?
Speaker 3: And of course you must you must be hiding from
Speaker 3: me a higher a higher level of experience, and I
Speaker 3: of course I am talking about the one point one
Speaker 3: million dollar Uh what's it called?
Speaker 2: Here?
Speaker 3: Prometheus?
Speaker 2: Here?
Speaker 3: Because so first here Ignite, you're starting the fire. Next
Speaker 3: hear Fuego. Dude, that's already Jesus Christ next year if.
Speaker 2: You required to see your face say that for someone
Speaker 2: to listen to it, because.
Speaker 3: Or just trying to get dude, what do you mean?
Speaker 4: I can't get back there, dude, I got the Fuego
Speaker 4: pass I.
Speaker 3: Got the Fuego Phoenix. So something bad has happened at
Speaker 3: the tweens Fuego and Phoenix because they're now rising out
Speaker 3: of the ass. We're doing all right. So you're doing
Speaker 3: all right, and now the god of keeping a fire alive, Prometheus,
Speaker 3: I don't know, man.
Speaker 4: The text on the website to try and get people
Speaker 4: into the Prometheus past.
Speaker 3: This is what it says.
Speaker 4: The origin of the Prometheus Pass is shrouded in secrecy.
Speaker 4: Legend has it that it was inspired by the titan Prometheus,
Speaker 4: who defied the gods to give humanity fire f y
Speaker 4: e R a spark of creation and innovation. This pass
Speaker 4: is not for the faint of heart, nor is it
Speaker 4: for the casual attendee. For it is for those who
Speaker 4: seek to rise above, who don't just want to witness history,
Speaker 4: but aspire to shape it. Because you are going to
Speaker 4: be universally called the dumbest, fucking, stupid motherfucker ever for
Speaker 4: buying this ticket.
Speaker 3: When you die in a helicopter crash, because that is
Speaker 3: how you get around in this a helicopter.
Speaker 2: Yeah No, that reads the way that you read it,
Speaker 2: And just the copy reads like one of those title
Speaker 2: story screams from Mortal Kombat.
Speaker 3: Too right right, really awesome, really cool fatality.
Speaker 4: Maybe when Goro decided to bring together.
Speaker 2: Go, I was like, there's so many words. I'm ten.
Speaker 2: I just want to see Yeah.
Speaker 4: More lore No, that's Motoro, Dad, He's more stronger than Gol.
Speaker 2: That's so true.
Speaker 3: Game of NBA JAM, they like do a cut scene,
Speaker 3: they're like the power Forward Charles Barkley did not license
Speaker 3: his name for this. Thus we have all right. I
Speaker 3: just want to read the prometheust here because you literally,
Speaker 3: I don't don't think you could pay me one point
Speaker 3: one million dollars to do this, just keeping in mind.
Speaker 3: So the thing that the First Fire Festival is famous
Speaker 3: for is being a scam, perpetrated by somebody who is
Speaker 3: not great with the detail, not not great attention to details.
Speaker 3: And this would be four day access for eight people,
Speaker 3: fight team, access to fight pit, so you get to
Speaker 3: hang out with the fighters, with MMA fighters, which you
Speaker 3: get to do like what Mark Zuckerberger does, I guess
Speaker 3: in the corner of MMA fighters and like pretend to
Speaker 3: hand things to people. Curated itinerary and again very vague,
Speaker 3: very vague. Twenty four to seven private chauffeur service access
Speaker 3: to private Marina, private air charter flight from Miami, Florida
Speaker 3: to Cancun International Airport, followed by and this is where
Speaker 3: I get a little nervous about putting my life in
Speaker 3: the hands of the planners of the Fire Festival. Followed
Speaker 3: by private helicopter ride to Morris That ship is going down.
Speaker 2: Movie situation.
Speaker 3: Oh my god. Traveling accommodations assistance for Fire concierge, three
Speaker 3: nights stay on yacht or villa. I like that they
Speaker 3: can't commit to yacht, yacht or villa or something. I
Speaker 3: don't know, I'll figure it.
Speaker 2: I'm a huge fan that they're just fundraising up front
Speaker 2: on tickets like they are. They have no investors, obviously.
Speaker 3: They like they people looked into the island. They asked, like,
Speaker 3: so have they pulled any like permits. The government says
Speaker 3: that no permits have been requested for the festival as
Speaker 3: of yet. A festival that's happening in a few months.
Speaker 4: Well, I don't know, Jack, because on the website there
Speaker 4: are actual longitude, longitudinal, longitudinal and latitudinal coordinates that I'm
Speaker 4: looking at.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and when you go to those coordinates, uh, you
Speaker 3: are in the ocean. You're missed. They missed the island. Again.
Speaker 3: I'm just saying they don't have the best attention to detail.
Speaker 3: Maybe that's why they are not pulling the coordinate or
Speaker 3: the the permits because.
Speaker 4: There's no office here. There's no permit office here.
Speaker 3: Boss. I went to where you said no permit office
Speaker 3: legal or for legal reasons, you know, to be like, well,
Speaker 3: the coordinates actually never said explicitly on the physical land obviously,
Speaker 3: you know it's it's just offshore international water, Like are
Speaker 3: they doing international waters mentality? Like, dude, we can fucking
Speaker 3: do anything man international waters. So uh, there are some
Speaker 3: signs that this event will be a disaster. I know
Speaker 3: you guys have been on board and hopefully haven't buy
Speaker 3: your tickets yet, but.
Speaker 4: I'm about to hit confirmed, so I guess I'll hear
Speaker 4: you out before I fucking throw away.
Speaker 3: So no musical acts have been announced for Firefest two,
Speaker 3: which is ostensibly a music festival. That was the whole
Speaker 3: idea in the first place, was that this was a
Speaker 3: music festival. Now they did ask Billy McFarlane and he
Speaker 3: claimed that he's already booked quote some artists and has
Speaker 3: some others in mind. When asked if there were any
Speaker 3: a list acts, he responded, I think of a list
Speaker 3: as pretty subjective, but in my opinion, they're definitely a list,
Speaker 3: and then close it out by also suggesting that he's
Speaker 3: not actually in charge of booking the talent. So many
Speaker 3: just a fine concentrate of red flag Like this is
Speaker 3: like you ask your kid if they've done their homework
Speaker 3: and they say, I've done some of my homework. Done
Speaker 3: is a subjective term in the first place. It's actually
Speaker 3: not my job to do my homework anyways, and go
Speaker 3: fuck yourself.
Speaker 4: Yeah, very very trump on the debate stage. I have
Speaker 4: concepts of a plan that I'm working on. I may
Speaker 4: the same thing.
Speaker 3: Some plans though.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, it's also wanted to tell us about. On
Speaker 4: the website, when you go again to like the fire
Speaker 4: experience sub section the music, the word music is not
Speaker 4: even listed. It says water Adventures, extreme sports, leisure and
Speaker 4: wellness culture.
Speaker 2: It starts as a music festival, it becomes infamous as
Speaker 2: a failure, and now its brand is Infamous Failures Failure Festival. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so you can sell the proximity to the infamous failure.
Speaker 2: Maybe if you go, you'll be on the next suite
Speaker 2: of documentaries about the failure of fires.
Speaker 4: Or if you're smart, I would just start putting together
Speaker 4: travel packages to be like, yo, bro, I'll take you
Speaker 4: to go see the failure for way less money. Yeah,
Speaker 4: you could go that ship and guess what, they don't
Speaker 4: have permise. We can walk right in there.
Speaker 3: If that's what you'll want, may I Yeah that yeah?
Speaker 3: Failure capital capitalism, failure tourists Tourissarie.
Speaker 4: These fucking lose They're like, bro, they're like yo, for
Speaker 4: one thousand dollars, I had everything handled and I got
Speaker 4: to laugh at these people. That's even still a lot.
Speaker 3: I was gonna suggest too much if it was the
Speaker 3: Trump equivalent, where he was like, I have concepts of
Speaker 3: a plan, but then he does actually have a plan,
Speaker 3: he's just like not willing to tell you what it
Speaker 3: is because it's so like evil and bad for everybody involved.
Speaker 3: The equivalent of that would be that each of these
Speaker 3: tiers is that you're actually buying a ticket to hunt
Speaker 3: the tier below you. So he like lets them loose
Speaker 3: on an island, and then like obviously the Prometheus tier
Speaker 3: is hunting you from a helicopter.
Speaker 4: Right, So it's like that movie Battle Royal, Battle Royale,
Speaker 4: that Japanese movie. It's like, well, if you got the
Speaker 4: what is it the spark ticket? Okay, the weapon y'all
Speaker 4: get is like a spatula and maybe a frying pant. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and Team Fuego gets a police baton. Uh Phoenix, y'all
Speaker 4: get twenty two caliber little rifles. And if you got Prometheus, bro,
Speaker 4: we have we have just anti tank munitions.
Speaker 3: You can just from a helicon. Yeah yeah, yeah, sorry,
Speaker 3: ignite should have should have grinded harder, should have scammed harder.
Speaker 3: I also learned as I was just like kind of
Speaker 3: taking a look back at Billy McFarlane, just marveling at
Speaker 3: this person's this this life.
Speaker 4: When you say that you're talking because Billy's behind you
Speaker 4: right now, Yeah, yeah, taking a look back at him marveling.
Speaker 3: His first venture was a content sharing app called Spling,
Speaker 3: which Spling is such a dumb name for just anything. Uh,
Speaker 3: I have to have to respect it. Yeah. God, that
Speaker 3: description of the Prometheus tire and it's it's mythic, mysterious
Speaker 3: origins really made me took a couple months off my leg.
Speaker 4: Forged in the fires of Mount Scam.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, and when the obvious things happen, they're
Speaker 2: just going to refer to it as the Chorus tire
Speaker 2: and it'll be.
Speaker 3: Great, right right, My God. Again, I mean to like,
Speaker 3: you know, like shocking they didn't name a tier Icarus
Speaker 3: because it's just like a thing that has to do
Speaker 3: with fire. Yeah. I can't believe they didn't just call
Speaker 3: it that because they on some level know this is bullshit.
Speaker 4: You can get the left Eye, Lisa Lopez Tier, famed arsonist.
Speaker 3: What the fuck, Alex? What a pleasure having you on
Speaker 3: the daily Zeitgeist?
Speaker 2: Always the best? Thank you?
Speaker 3: Where can People Find You? Follow you? All that good stuff.
Speaker 2: I have a show called You Are Good at Feelings
Speaker 2: podcasts about movies where we talking about movies and therapy
Speaker 2: and feelings and stuff. And then I have another show
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Speaker 3: Name There you Go, which is spelled sted. That is
Speaker 3: it is there a workimedia that you've been enjoying.
Speaker 2: I watched A Different Man finally, I hadn't seen that
Speaker 2: movie and I loved it. That's the one with Sebastian
Speaker 2: Stan and uh, it was wonderful as like being John
Speaker 2: Malkovich vibes in a tremendous way.
Speaker 3: Oh oh interesting, Yeah, I heard that's the one that
Speaker 3: like put him on the map for the Trump movie.
Speaker 3: But it's like better than the Trump Movie.
Speaker 2: It's essentially remarkable. It is truly remarkable. I can't recommend
Speaker 2: it enough.
Speaker 3: Nice miles. Where Can People Find You? Is there workimedia
Speaker 3: you've been enjoying.
Speaker 4: Well, you can find me at my bank asking for
Speaker 4: a loan so I can get this motherfucking Prometheus pass.
Speaker 4: But if you look for me on social media at
Speaker 4: Miles of Gray wherever they have at symbols, find jacket
Speaker 4: I on the basketball gas Miles of Jackot Mad Boostie
Speaker 4: where we record an episode before the Lakers played the
Speaker 4: Mavericks and.
Speaker 3: We're like, yeah, well we'll see what happens. Wow, it
Speaker 3: was a great time, great time, great times looking good.
Speaker 4: It's not great times. Was had against it, depleted Mavericks side.
Speaker 4: But also find me on four twenty talking about ninety
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Speaker 4: Episode two will be streaming today if you're interested in Also,
Speaker 4: let's see a little work of media. It's actually a tweet.
Speaker 4: First one is from at Rachel Lapdes l A p
Speaker 4: I d S tweeted why is improv always comedy? I
Speaker 4: want to attend an improvised slice of life family drama,
Speaker 4: which I'm like, that would that would take really significant
Speaker 4: levels of improv No how to do that?
Speaker 2: Rory Skoffel did one at Alesion a while ago with
Speaker 2: Chad the clown guy, and they did it and it
Speaker 2: was a play and I learned at the end it
Speaker 2: was so convincing. I mean, I had comedy in it,
Speaker 2: but it was so convincing that I learned after the
Speaker 2: fact was improved on the spot.
Speaker 3: Fucking Rory School.
Speaker 2: Goddamn. Oh really you thought it was like I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: this is like off the wall, but like whatever, And
Speaker 2: then after that it was improved in real time a
Speaker 2: guy they had a delivery guy come and deliver something
Speaker 2: on stage who didn't know he was on improv and
Speaker 2: he's the one who explained to the audience after the
Speaker 2: fact that this was improved.
Speaker 3: Oh, I got remarkable.
Speaker 2: I hope that person if they ever get to the
Speaker 2: allusion check out any of Chad's clown things or or
Speaker 2: Rory School for anything.
Speaker 4: Also, I love this video from at Alex Byron Comedy tweeted,
Speaker 4: please rate my Elon musk impression. I shaved and bought
Speaker 4: Tron sunglasses and this is just a pretty solid uh
Speaker 4: Elon impression.
Speaker 3: Do you condemn the CCP's treatment of theirs?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, thought really about that.
Speaker 7: People expect everything to be now on mag it's gonna
Speaker 7: be really hard. So people gonna wish the as would you.
Speaker 2: I'm a breading king.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's like, well, populations pretty much were seeding it
Speaker 7: everywhere and it's a real problem that we have and.
Speaker 3: Really good guess what.
Speaker 2: About grinds from seeing her children out of spite? Yeah?
Speaker 7: Whatever, kids, right, And it takes a lot of time.
Speaker 7: People don't understand that this is the wolk mind virus.
Speaker 7: You got.
Speaker 2: This is the song right?
Speaker 6: This is It goes on like another minute, but yeah,
Speaker 6: that's Alex Byron Comedy's amazing.
Speaker 2: Can I can I boost a tweet real quick? I
Speaker 2: totally yeah. Earlier this is from Blue Sky, I should
Speaker 2: be specific. This is from my partner in the podcast
Speaker 2: usc again Ecostratus, who was not coming up called the
Speaker 2: dad rock that made me a woman, But this is
Speaker 2: my favorite. It's time for the Milk Hotel to choose
Speaker 2: a side no longer that what did me?
Speaker 3: That's great workimedia. I've been enjoying. I liked the movie
Speaker 3: Kneecap about an Irish rap group, the Wraps in Irish
Speaker 3: like the old Irish and it's a lot of fun.
Speaker 3: You can find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore o Brian.
Speaker 3: You can find me on Blue Sky at jack Obie
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Speaker 3: You can go to the episode wherever you're listening to
Speaker 3: this and check out the description and there you will
Speaker 3: find the footnotes, which is where we link off the
Speaker 3: information that we talked about in today's episode. We also
Speaker 3: link off to a song that we think you might enjoy. Miles,
Speaker 3: is there a song that you think people might joy?
Speaker 4: You know? Keeping the theme of Roddy Gun, I just
Speaker 4: want to also go out on this track because if
Speaker 4: you haven't seen the Raddy Gun video, I don't know
Speaker 4: if we should make We'll put in the footnotes footnotes yeah,
Speaker 4: for this episode. But the track that absolutely makes this
Speaker 4: crowd and Antigua lose it is this track Substitute Lover
Speaker 4: by half Pipe, and it came out like the in
Speaker 4: the nineties, but it's just a it's a banger and
Speaker 4: just I think watching the people react to it at
Speaker 4: this soundclash made me love the song even more. So
Speaker 4: check out substitute lover by half Pipe.
Speaker 3: That shit goes, as does rad to gun Roddy a
Speaker 3: gun all right. The Daily Zeit Guys is a production
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