1 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:06,440 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast, your home for 2 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:11,479 Speaker 1: deer hunting news, stories and strategies, and now your host, 3 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:15,960 Speaker 1: Mark Kenyon. Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast. I'm 4 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 1: your host, Mark Kenyan. Is this episode number two and 5 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 1: fifty and today in the show, we are back for 6 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 1: a mid November edition of RUT Radio in which we're 7 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 1: talking to hunters all across the country about the latest 8 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:30,480 Speaker 1: progress of the rut, white tail activity, how conditions are 9 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 1: impacting activity, and the tactics that are working right now. 10 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:48,840 Speaker 1: All right, welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast, brought 11 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 1: to you by Onyx. We are here today for another 12 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 1: edition of our UT Radio mini series in which we're 13 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 1: hearing from hunters across the country about the latest on 14 00:00:57,560 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 1: the progress of the white tail rut, dear activity, how 15 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 1: current conditions are impacting deer and the different things we 16 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 1: can be doing as hunters right now over the course 17 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:09,680 Speaker 1: of this next week to have some success. And with 18 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 1: me to do that is Spencer, New Hearth. Spencer, how 19 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 1: are you doing? I hear there's uh hear, there's there's 20 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 1: finally some good news for you. Is that is that true? 21 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 1: I'm doing good. I just filled my first deer tag 22 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 1: of the season. So I have a new energy as 23 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 1: we get into the middle of November. Here, Yeah, how 24 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 1: does it feel to to be like the rest of 25 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 1: us now? Instead of killing like nine things right away 26 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:35,040 Speaker 1: in the season, You've had to wait till middle of 27 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 1: November to finally make it happen. You're back back to Earth, 28 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 1: right back to Earth. But I hope I changed that. 29 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 1: I hope. I am just lighting up your Instagram feed 30 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 1: over these next few weeks with more white tails, so 31 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 1: we'll see. I hope to change it. I hope. So too, 32 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 1: do you do you want to give us a quick 33 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 1: synopsis of the story or what are you thinking there? 34 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 1: So this was a haunted northwestern South Dakota. It was 35 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 1: a white tail tag, but that is an area that's 36 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 1: kind of dominated by mule deer. It's an area that 37 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 1: had a lot of leftover tags, pretty easy to draw. 38 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 1: Um So I kind of knew that going into it, 39 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 1: and I didn't have real high standards. Um So my 40 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 1: strategy for that was to just for look, look for 41 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 1: something that didn't appear to be like super rough, super 42 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 1: super covered in cedars or yucca like you find those 43 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 1: mule deer, and we got really deep innos in public 44 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 1: like two miles back. Uh, And I found the white 45 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:31,800 Speaker 1: tail that I ended up killing just twenty minutes in 46 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 1: the opener. So it was a short and sweet season 47 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 1: for me. And so were you just kind of stalking 48 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 1: along glassing and then you spot him and took a shop. Uh. No, 49 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 1: I had a destination that I wanted to get to, 50 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 1: a specific draw that looked like it had some hardwoods, 51 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:49,960 Speaker 1: which there aren't a ton of in that area. Uh. 52 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 1: And it also came out of a hay field, which 53 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 1: looked like something that you would find white tails on 54 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:58,800 Speaker 1: pretty much anywhere. And so I got set up there. Uh, 55 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 1: it spotted a number of you will hear so far 56 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 1: that morning, a few white tail does. And then this 57 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 1: white tail buck that ended up getting a position on 58 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:10,079 Speaker 1: I think I killed him in like a hunter eighty yards. Nice. 59 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:13,519 Speaker 1: That's awesome, man, congrats seeing like running activity where they're 60 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 1: chasing do anything like that. Yeah. So it's hard to 61 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 1: uh draw any conclusions from that haunts because those rifles 62 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 1: seasons on public land can be kind of weird where 63 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:26,640 Speaker 1: you have dear that maybe you aren't necessarily behaving like 64 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 1: deer wood. And so you know, I saw some rutting 65 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 1: activity from like the standpoint that there was a mule 66 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 1: deer buck chasing some white tail does and there was 67 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 1: just some chaos in that job. But again, uh, public 68 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 1: land northwestern South Dakota kind of a weird landscape. It's 69 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 1: hard to you know, get any exacts or anything that 70 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 1: applies to most white tail hunters from that scenario. Yeah. Interesting, Um, 71 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 1: do you want to hear Michigan report at all? Yeah? 72 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 1: And I can't image and there's anybody to give a 73 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 1: better Michigan report because you've been at it for like 74 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 1: it seems like ten straight days or something. How how 75 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 1: many days have you been in a tree now consecutively? Uh? Well, 76 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 1: November two because I had those business meetings on the 77 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 1: thirty one and first, which took me out of the tree, 78 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 1: But otherwise it was it was five days before that 79 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 1: and then two days of meetings, and then November two 80 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 1: through today, which is what the twelfth. So I think 81 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:26,840 Speaker 1: it's eleven straight days there um in Michigan. And yeah, 82 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 1: I mean I've seen a lot of different things. Last 83 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 1: week I told you about some of the you know, 84 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:35,040 Speaker 1: I saw that mature buck lockdown with the dough. Um, 85 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:37,720 Speaker 1: I went to a new property. After we talked last time, 86 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 1: I was on this hunt with with Ronnella and Yanni 87 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 1: and the rest of the mediator crew, and UM, we 88 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 1: saw we saw running activity. I also thought that maybe 89 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 1: there was some lockdown going on because we did not 90 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 1: see a whole lot of activity from the mature bucks. UM. 91 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 1: And in general seemed like lots of the time was 92 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:59,359 Speaker 1: very dull. There was not much going on. UM. But 93 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 1: there were a few day as that kind of gave 94 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 1: us like punctuations of excitement. UM. So a lot of 95 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:07,679 Speaker 1: slow periods, but then the occasionally I had one morning 96 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:09,600 Speaker 1: where there's a lot of chasing going on a lot 97 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 1: of young bucks, and then I did have a mature 98 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 1: buck cruise through in the middle of the day UM. 99 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 1: And then yesterday I did have another potential mature buck 100 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:19,920 Speaker 1: cruising in the middle of the day. So definitely saw 101 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 1: that cruising. UM. Steve saw on mature buck do the 102 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 1: same thing like late morning, and Yanni saw some cruising 103 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 1: in the earlier in the morning. So a lot of cruising, 104 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 1: a little bit of chasing, and UM, we didn't see 105 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 1: bucks locked on the doors necessarily, but we kind of 106 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 1: were hypothesizing that that was probably what was going on. UM. 107 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:41,920 Speaker 1: Another thing worth mentioning is that we definitely did see 108 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:45,840 Speaker 1: that our activity on trail cameras our scrapes has gone 109 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 1: down pretty significantly, not nearly as many visits to the 110 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:53,360 Speaker 1: scrapes UM. So that's another thing worth pointing out. We 111 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 1: weren't we definitely aren't keying in on signs so much 112 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:57,720 Speaker 1: right now. It's it's really when we were able to 113 00:05:57,760 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 1: find deer and get on deers when we were either 114 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 1: really hyped dough betting or actually in those kind of 115 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:07,360 Speaker 1: ridge system funnels, so terrain that is that's funneling deer 116 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 1: movement as they go from betting area to betting area. UM. 117 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 1: That seemed to be the ticket for us. We we 118 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 1: didn't end up didn't end up filling attack, but we 119 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 1: we had some close calls. So it was good. It's 120 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:19,599 Speaker 1: good trip. Yeah. And this time of year, like you 121 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:24,160 Speaker 1: talked about, once you get into the November teens, the 122 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:26,919 Speaker 1: the activity seems to come and go in like really 123 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 1: big waves. Like one day you'll see incredible movement, you'll 124 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 1: seem like bucks are chasing do you will be out 125 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 1: of midday and then the next day you might not 126 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 1: see anything at all if if they're handful of bucks 127 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 1: got pulled off the property, buy a hot dough, or 128 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 1: if those bucks are on the property, but maybe lockdown 129 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 1: with a few doughs. And so you know, going back 130 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 1: to seventeen. On route radio, you always get some reports 131 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 1: that maybe don't agree with each other, uh, from from 132 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 1: all over the country because it's just a really strange 133 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 1: time of year. Oh yeah. I always try to remind 134 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 1: myself if I'm sitting in the tree and it's dead, 135 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:06,440 Speaker 1: I just need to always tell myself that it could 136 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:08,839 Speaker 1: change an instant, and even though it might be dead 137 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 1: right now two yards away, it might be a rut 138 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 1: fest and that could be here in seconds. Or if 139 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 1: I make a move tomorrow two and I happen to 140 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 1: be in the right spot, then it could be chaos. 141 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 1: It's just so much here but not there, and hot 142 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 1: and coal. I mean, you just have to kind of 143 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 1: go into it knowing that that's gonna be the case 144 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 1: sometimes and just be willing to push through it and 145 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 1: try to adjust if you can for sure. And like 146 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 1: my greatest solution in South Dakota here is if we 147 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 1: get to that stage where uh, it's getting difficult to 148 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 1: find mature bucks moving is to pick up a gun 149 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 1: when the gun seasons open. I am not a hashtag 150 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 1: bowl only guy or some is like going to frown 151 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 1: upon someone picking up a rifle or a musload or whatever. Uh. 152 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 1: I am an advantageous hunter, so when our gun seasons open, 153 00:07:57,320 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 1: I'm hunting with a gun and that usually seems to 154 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 1: remedy any poor route movement. How about you, Mark, Are 155 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 1: you gonna pick up a gun here? On? What is it? 156 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 1: November fift in Michigan? Yeah, in Michigan, and I think 157 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 1: I am this year. Um. I usually, I think I've 158 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 1: mentioned in the past, I usually go to my family 159 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 1: deer camp for a couple of days, but this year 160 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 1: we're pushing that off a little bit later than usual, 161 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 1: so opening day, in the first couple of days, I'll 162 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 1: actually be on my main property. So I'm kind of 163 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 1: excited about that. Um. I am hoping that that buck 164 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 1: I was chasing last week is still around. I have 165 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:34,320 Speaker 1: reason to believe that maybe he is, So um, there's 166 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:36,200 Speaker 1: a little bit of extra excitement here because I've got 167 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 1: a few more days of the boat to get after him, 168 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 1: and if that doesn't work out, I'll keep it going. 169 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:44,720 Speaker 1: So we will see the hunt. The hunt will continue well. 170 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 1: This week on the show, we talked to Bryce Slamley 171 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 1: in Nebraska from Sitka Gear, then Beaumartonic from East Meat 172 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 1: to West in Pennsylvania, then in Tennessee from Wildcare Deer 173 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 1: Tracked and it's Josh Smith, and then Keith Thompson in 174 00:08:56,400 --> 00:09:01,200 Speaker 1: Montana from Montana White Tails Excellent. We have anything else 175 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:03,440 Speaker 1: we need to cover before getting to those? I don't 176 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 1: think so. Uh, you know, I think we did a 177 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:08,839 Speaker 1: good enough job of acknowledging that this time of years 178 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:12,439 Speaker 1: is going to be strange for reports and strange for hunts. So, 179 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 1: like you said, just keep after it. That can all 180 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 1: change in a second. Yeah that is. I mean we 181 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 1: could just do nothing but repeat that over and over 182 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 1: and over again on this podcast, and that might be 183 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 1: the best thing that you could listen to right now. 184 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:27,680 Speaker 1: You just got to remember that it can all change, 185 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:31,960 Speaker 1: So just stay stay persistent, stay focused as best as possible, 186 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 1: stay positive, um and good things oftentimes will come to 187 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:39,560 Speaker 1: those who do so. Before I before I get off here, 188 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 1: I just want to wish everybody good luck and uh 189 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:44,959 Speaker 1: enjoy these days because before you know what the rut 190 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 1: is gonna be done and we'll be back to looking 191 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:50,560 Speaker 1: forward to next year's rutt. So often I find myself like, oh, 192 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:51,959 Speaker 1: I can't wait, I can't wait. But then when it's 193 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 1: actually here, then I'm stressed out, or I'm tired, or 194 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:57,600 Speaker 1: i'm you know whatever, complaining about something in my head. 195 00:09:57,679 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 1: So I need to often remind myself to just just 196 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:02,680 Speaker 1: embrace it. If you have a close call and it 197 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:05,720 Speaker 1: doesn't go your way, that's upsetting. I know, Like I 198 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 1: had a moment like that where I was really frustrated. 199 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 1: I almost got it done. It was so painfully close, 200 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 1: and then it didn't happen, and I was upset. But 201 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 1: then later that afternoon, I just needed to remind myself, 202 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 1: you know what, that was such a cool encounter like 203 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 1: that is something you dreamed of all year, of being 204 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 1: that close to a deer like that, And yeah, you 205 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:25,560 Speaker 1: didn't get to send an arrow, but you've got to 206 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 1: have this really neat interaction with a with a special animal. 207 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 1: And that's the kind of thing that the rut provides 208 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:34,440 Speaker 1: if you, if you choose to enjoy that and not 209 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 1: get too focus on the end goal. So that's my 210 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:41,200 Speaker 1: little uh Pepper rally for everyone. Today, it's well said. 211 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:43,320 Speaker 1: We'll talk to you next week. Mark. Thank you Spencer. 212 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 1: Before we get to our first update, let's pause for 213 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 1: a word from our sponsors at white Tail Properties. This week. 214 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:53,720 Speaker 1: With white Tail Properties, we are joined by Billy O'Connor, 215 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:56,679 Speaker 1: a land specialist out of Kansas, and Billy is going 216 00:10:56,720 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 1: to be telling us about what to consider when buying 217 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:03,959 Speaker 1: a property with a friend. Um, you know, buying a 218 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 1: property the friend is a great idea. You know, it 219 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:09,200 Speaker 1: helps you get more land for less and it also 220 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 1: helps with the cost and investment of time that kind 221 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:14,440 Speaker 1: of need for improvements. Plus it's just fun to kind 222 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:16,320 Speaker 1: of share in the experience of owning lane with someone 223 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:19,720 Speaker 1: who is passionate about the outdoors as you are. But um, 224 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 1: you do need the process a little bit to make 225 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 1: sure that you kind of cover all scenarios kind of 226 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 1: going down the road. Um, when buying with a friend, 227 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:31,200 Speaker 1: you first want to talk through ideally what each partner 228 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:33,199 Speaker 1: wants out of the experience. You know, is this for 229 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 1: an investment. Is it to raise mature whitetail by let 230 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 1: him get to a certain age class. Is it a 231 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:39,840 Speaker 1: place you want to bring friends and family to hunt 232 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 1: as well? Assuming you both want to manage for deer. 233 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 1: Usually friends have the same goal and approach to management, 234 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 1: but often one person will want to hunt other things 235 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:50,960 Speaker 1: such as quail and small game, and the other partner 236 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:52,839 Speaker 1: may not necessarily want to do that. So you kind 237 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:55,079 Speaker 1: of want to talk all that through UM. If you 238 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:56,959 Speaker 1: are not a state buyer, you do need to keep 239 00:11:56,960 --> 00:11:58,959 Speaker 1: in mind at the State of Kansas, you're allowed want 240 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 1: to land and attack her at the acres. So if 241 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:02,960 Speaker 1: you both want laying under tags, you need to make 242 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 1: sure the properties at hundred six acres or more. I'd 243 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:09,320 Speaker 1: suggest you by the property under an LLC UM. That way, 244 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 1: everything could kind of be explained in the by laws. 245 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 1: In the event that something does down the road where 246 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 1: you guys do need to split it or sell it. 247 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 1: You know, things such as a divorce, or someone has 248 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:21,960 Speaker 1: more kids than they anticipated and or a death in 249 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:24,200 Speaker 1: the family and someone needs to sell. Um. Those type 250 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 1: of thing you can kind of go over and get 251 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 1: that out of the way from the get go. If 252 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 1: you'd like to learn more and to see the properties 253 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 1: that Billy currently has listed for sale, visit white tail 254 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 1: properties dot com. Backslash O'Connor that's O c O. And 255 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:42,960 Speaker 1: n O R. And joining us on the line first 256 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 1: is Bryce Lanley out of Nebraska from Sick of Gear. 257 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 1: Now Bryce in Nebraska, what would you say the bucket 258 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:51,960 Speaker 1: activity has been lately on a scale of one to ten. Well, 259 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:54,439 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go back to my conservative self and tell 260 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:58,080 Speaker 1: you five. Um, it's just been one of the more 261 00:12:58,120 --> 00:13:02,960 Speaker 1: disappointing early Novembers for me. And I realized that the 262 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 1: rut is feast for famine, and you know, a half 263 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 1: mile away it could be a whole different story. But 264 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:10,840 Speaker 1: I've got enough friends that that are kind of experiencing 265 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 1: the same thing. It's just been a weird rut. And 266 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 1: so if you had to put a label on what 267 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 1: stage of the route you think the deer in your area, 268 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 1: what would you call it? You know, I'm not seeing 269 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:26,720 Speaker 1: much cruise in a troll and whatever you wanna call it. 270 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 1: And so it makes me wonder if bucks are locked 271 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 1: down and um, you know, then you've got some you know, 272 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 1: smaller bucks kind of hanging around the vicinity hoping to 273 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 1: get some action as well. And it's just we're not 274 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 1: seeing very much trolling, um, at least not in the 275 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:47,080 Speaker 1: properties where I'm at. So I'm getting lockdown. So prior 276 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 1: to this, then in early early November, were you seeing 277 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:53,079 Speaker 1: some better movement than what you would consider that seeking 278 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 1: and chasing a little bit? And you know, it's late 279 00:13:57,320 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 1: October on trail cameras and from stand we're seeing a 280 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 1: little bit more daylight activity from some of the bigger Bucks. 281 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 1: And I was very encouraged in the days right before 282 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:12,200 Speaker 1: Thanksgiving looking forward to early November. But I never saw 283 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:14,720 Speaker 1: a pick up personally. Um. It doesn't mean it wasn't 284 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:17,200 Speaker 1: happening for other people, but I I didn't see a 285 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 1: pick up at all personally. And usually this time of year, 286 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 1: I'll do a number of all days SIPs and I 287 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 1: tried to of them and it just I wasn't seeing 288 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:29,960 Speaker 1: anything in the midday. So it's really disappointed. This has 289 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 1: been quite an unusual November for you. Correct, what don't 290 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:35,680 Speaker 1: you tell us about that? And then you know, tell 291 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 1: the audience maybe a little bit about what kind of 292 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 1: record keeping you have going back to the eighties. Well, 293 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 1: I started keeping records about and UM keeping track of 294 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:53,320 Speaker 1: daufon ratios and every documenting every single hunt UM also 295 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 1: keeping track of how many um bucks and aunt ors 296 00:14:57,200 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 1: do that passed within my very limited range with my 297 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 1: bow and arrow and um and offering shots. And it's 298 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 1: been a weird year. I you I have not experienced 299 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 1: the typical early November days where I would see ten 300 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 1: or twelve different bucks all cruising, all with their minds, 301 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 1: you know, they're making tracks through the woods. I haven't 302 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 1: seen much of that at all. I mean literally almost none. Um. 303 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 1: It has been uh an encouraging year in the number 304 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 1: of bucks buck sightings within range that I could have 305 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 1: had a shot at. I've had seventy four of those 306 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 1: opportunities in sixty seven punts and that's well above average, 307 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 1: and so that's encouraging. But um, most of them are 308 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 1: one and a half year old and two and a 309 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 1: half year olds. UM. The other anomaly that I'm seeing 310 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 1: this year is that our fond ratio compared to dose 311 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 1: is really low. It's a hundred dolls to forty one 312 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:56,920 Speaker 1: fonds um with you know, about four years scenes so 313 00:15:57,000 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 1: that's really very low. It's less than half of um 314 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 1: low years and it's you know, about two and a 315 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 1: half times lower than the average, which is about a 316 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 1: hundred to a hundred. And so I think we've got 317 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 1: some predatory issues with low fur prices and lots of coyotes. 318 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:16,640 Speaker 1: I think that's part of the issue. UM. I'm hoping, 319 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 1: I'm still hopeful that things will pick up after UM 320 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:23,520 Speaker 1: the rut you know reaches, you know, kind of a 321 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:26,720 Speaker 1: second phase where most of those have been bred and 322 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:28,360 Speaker 1: and now we get you know, hopefully the bucks will 323 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 1: be back on their searching for for the leftovers. Earlier 324 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 1: this fall, when I talked to you, you had said 325 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 1: how the signmaking seemed to pick up earlier than usual 326 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 1: this year. Are you still seeing any fresh sign in 327 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 1: the woods? Very little? It's you know, we we talked 328 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 1: before late September, it was just going crazy, and I 329 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 1: still was getting a lot of activity at scrapes on 330 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 1: trail cameras, uh into October. October very little since then. 331 00:16:57,480 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 1: I mean, they might walk past it, but they won't 332 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:04,160 Speaker 1: stop even and it's it's an entirely different, entirely different 333 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 1: type of UM reaction to the scrapes and so forth. Now, 334 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:11,879 Speaker 1: I have seen rubs pick up, and I've seen rubs 335 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 1: in new places, And I don't know if those are 336 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:17,240 Speaker 1: frustration rubs or if those are something else, but I 337 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:19,439 Speaker 1: have seen rubs pick up but the activity of the 338 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:22,639 Speaker 1: scrapes has been very little the last week or two weeks. 339 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:26,640 Speaker 1: If hunters are experiencing lockdown this week, like you suspect, 340 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 1: what are some of your strategies for finding the mature buck. Well, 341 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:35,119 Speaker 1: what I've seen with those that don't want to be 342 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:38,119 Speaker 1: hassled is that they are hiding in out of the 343 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:40,720 Speaker 1: way locations, which is probably also where the bucks will 344 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:43,640 Speaker 1: like to try to you know, stash them down as well. Um, 345 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 1: but I'll find those like literally betted on the river bank, 346 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:49,560 Speaker 1: are out in the middle of nowhere, in just little 347 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:52,480 Speaker 1: tiny grass patches. And so what I like to try 348 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:54,440 Speaker 1: to do is figure out, Okay, if a buck is 349 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:58,160 Speaker 1: on the search for those types of those, where are 350 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 1: some pinches in between where I might catch him? And 351 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 1: so I guess I'm trying to do is maximize my 352 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:08,480 Speaker 1: opportunity by going to those pinches. And and also those 353 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:12,480 Speaker 1: pinches usually offer the hunter a little bit easier access 354 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 1: in and out without boogering up the whole woods. And 355 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:17,399 Speaker 1: so that's kind of my my strategy at this point. 356 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 1: Going forward then to the next week or so, what 357 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:21,560 Speaker 1: do you think that bucket activity is going to be 358 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:24,119 Speaker 1: on a scale of one to ten in Nebraska. Well, 359 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 1: I'm gonna turn optimistic, gone in and hope it goes 360 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 1: up to about an eight. I I think that we 361 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 1: got We're in the middle of our guns season right now, 362 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 1: and so there's a lot of hunters of field, and 363 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:37,000 Speaker 1: so some people are getting some sidings just based on 364 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:39,080 Speaker 1: deer being pushed to them and that sort of thing. 365 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:42,120 Speaker 1: But I think once the gun hunters m wrap things 366 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:46,399 Speaker 1: up here, um soon, very soon, that I think, you know, 367 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 1: things should pick up again and and the bucks will 368 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 1: be back on the move because we just haven't seen 369 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 1: much of a rut and I can't imagine going in 370 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:57,120 Speaker 1: here without seeing that kind of steady activity was trolling 371 00:18:57,160 --> 00:19:00,480 Speaker 1: and cruising and so forth. Bryce, great inuntil good luck 372 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 1: this year, and thanks for joining me, Thank you alright 373 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 1: and joining us on the line. Next is Bowl Mortonic 374 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:10,680 Speaker 1: from Pennsylvania. From East meets West Outdoors now Bow in Pennsylvania. 375 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:12,639 Speaker 1: What would you say the buck activity has been lately 376 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 1: on a scale of one to ten, Spencer, I would 377 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:18,720 Speaker 1: say that the buck activity would I would say it 378 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:21,119 Speaker 1: would be around nine. In the last week or so, 379 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:24,719 Speaker 1: it's been ramping up quite a bit. The first like 380 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:27,760 Speaker 1: week of November, even the end of October there we 381 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 1: had some relatively warm weather, a lot of precipitation, and 382 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:35,560 Speaker 1: it seemed like the daylight activity was slow, and even 383 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:38,560 Speaker 1: from the trail camera side of things, on scrapes and everything, 384 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:42,160 Speaker 1: they weren't UM as active as they normally are at 385 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 1: that time. So this this past week, UM activity is 386 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 1: really ramped up. And I know, specifically out of the 387 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 1: camp that I hung out of my family had had 388 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:55,639 Speaker 1: killed quite a few deer just UM and in the 389 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 1: last week or so and finally seeing some mature deer 390 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 1: of moving in daylight hours. So what phased it about? 391 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 1: Would you say that most of Pennsylvania is in UM. 392 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 1: I think it's uh if it hasn't already kind of 393 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 1: entered into lockdown things a little bit. And I know 394 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 1: I said there you're moving and everything. But as as 395 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:20,159 Speaker 1: we're getting into you know, the twelve thirteen, fourteenth of 396 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:23,439 Speaker 1: November here, it's it's a lot of the smaller bucks 397 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 1: aren't aren't moving as much, and I'm starting to see 398 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:30,240 Speaker 1: some of their maturity or kind of out looking again. 399 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 1: But it's more it's more sporadic, so a little more 400 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:37,879 Speaker 1: daylight activity, but more middle of the day type stuff, 401 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 1: cruising some dope bedrooms, maybe looking for that second day. 402 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 1: I guess have you noticed if signmaking still active there 403 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:48,640 Speaker 1: in Pennsylvania not as much. It seems like the scrapes 404 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 1: are a little bit covered up compared to what they 405 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:56,920 Speaker 1: were last week. And um, it's more of the travel 406 00:20:57,240 --> 00:21:01,399 Speaker 1: corridors are are being active and definitely thinking, you know, 407 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 1: all day hunting if possible, is really important. Specifically, yesterday 408 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:11,359 Speaker 1: I had a mature deer cruising right at noon, um, 409 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 1: outside of a dope betting area. So are those dope 410 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 1: betting areas then your focus this time of year if 411 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 1: you're looking for a lockdown buck, Yes i am. I'm 412 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:23,720 Speaker 1: trying to get as close as possible to those dope 413 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:27,160 Speaker 1: betting areas, and um, kind of sitting on the down 414 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:30,119 Speaker 1: wind side. And if most of my setups have to 415 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 1: do with having more than one dope betting area in 416 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:38,480 Speaker 1: the area, So specifically hunting in the big woods will 417 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:41,040 Speaker 1: have a lot of the creek bottoms have dope betting 418 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:44,920 Speaker 1: areas set up around some tickets in the swampy areas 419 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:48,200 Speaker 1: and setting up in between them at any travel corridors 420 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:50,640 Speaker 1: is what I'm looking to do. You talked a little 421 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 1: bit earlier about the weather in early November kind of 422 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 1: affecting deer movement. Are there any upcoming weather patterns or 423 00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:59,640 Speaker 1: moon phases or anything like that that you think might change, 424 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:03,800 Speaker 1: Dear wmen again. Yeah, So, actually, we just had a 425 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:06,280 Speaker 1: pretty good cold front come through in the last couple 426 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:08,880 Speaker 1: of days, and from looking at the weather forecast, it's 427 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 1: gonna be even colder going out to this entire week 428 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:15,959 Speaker 1: and with some snow in the forecast. That woke up 429 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:18,720 Speaker 1: to a blanket of snow this morning, and um, that 430 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:20,880 Speaker 1: seems to really get up moving this time of year. 431 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 1: Do you have any strategies with your trail cameras as 432 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 1: far as where those are at or if you use 433 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:30,199 Speaker 1: that intail for anything in mid November. So, I'm not 434 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:32,679 Speaker 1: really using that intail for a whole lot of um 435 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:34,879 Speaker 1: stuff at this time of the year. But what I 436 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:39,640 Speaker 1: am doing is I'm leaving them on specifically creek crossings, 437 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:43,200 Speaker 1: and I'm still leaving someone scrapes, although they're not as 438 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 1: active that they scum here and there, But creek crossings 439 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:50,760 Speaker 1: and any type of funnels around like beaver ponds things 440 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 1: like that have been really good this time of year. 441 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 1: To catch some of those those box cruising And I'll 442 00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:58,720 Speaker 1: use that intael when I pull the cameras at the 443 00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:01,639 Speaker 1: end of the year for next year, because it seems 444 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 1: like every year they follow a similar pattern going forward. 445 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:07,639 Speaker 1: Then in the six week or so, what do you 446 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:09,359 Speaker 1: think that buck activity is going to be on a 447 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:12,960 Speaker 1: scale one to ten in Pennsylvania? So I think the 448 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:15,480 Speaker 1: buck activity is gonna stay around eight or nine. I 449 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:18,399 Speaker 1: don't think it's gonna get much better. From from the 450 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 1: standpoint of there's not I don't think there's gonna be 451 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 1: as many deer moving. But I think if you um 452 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 1: want a chance at one of the really big mature 453 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 1: deer in the area, as I stay with the end 454 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:32,119 Speaker 1: of October, I think great now is your best chance. 455 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 1: All right, Well, well, good luck this year. I'll be 456 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:38,439 Speaker 1: following along at East Meats West Outdoors. Thanks for joining me. 457 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 1: Thanks Spencer, alright and joining me on the line. Next 458 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:46,880 Speaker 1: is Josh Smith out of Tennessee from Wildcare Deer Attractive 459 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:49,480 Speaker 1: Now Josh and Tennessee, what would you say the buck 460 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:51,879 Speaker 1: activities men lately on a scale of one to ten. 461 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 1: I think we're at a six right now. Primarily young 462 00:23:57,040 --> 00:24:00,080 Speaker 1: young bucks have started Jason too nice year old? Is 463 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 1: that the oldest. I've been out probably six times in 464 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 1: the last ten days. UM, and I think November six, 465 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:10,960 Speaker 1: I know I saw the first five point, the first 466 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:14,080 Speaker 1: buck chasing activity that I had seen. He was running 467 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:17,320 Speaker 1: a couple of dos real hot UM. A few days 468 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 1: after that, I saw another two and a half year 469 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:23,680 Speaker 1: old six running some does. UM. Saw four point cruising 470 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:27,440 Speaker 1: you know, um in the morning. UM. And actually that 471 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 1: five point I saw morning and even running does two 472 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 1: different groups uh, first repair and then a single dough um. 473 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:37,680 Speaker 1: And then I saw a six point cruising in the afternoon. 474 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 1: And we've had some post Thanksgiving type of weather lately. 475 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 1: Things have gotten cold and and uh rain for the 476 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 1: last few days, a little bit earlier than usual for us. 477 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 1: It's usually around Thanksgiving her after that this kicks in, 478 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:54,359 Speaker 1: so I think, Um, normally our rut comes in a 479 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:56,639 Speaker 1: little bit before Thanksgiving. I think we're hitting things a 480 00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 1: little earlier this year. UM. We're not at peak right yet, 481 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:03,920 Speaker 1: but uh, I think that the timetables are literally earlier 482 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:06,520 Speaker 1: than normal. So I'm interested to see what starts moving 483 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 1: around here in the next week or so. I think 484 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 1: we'll hit the peak of the rut here probably late 485 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 1: this week weekend into early next week, and I'm looking 486 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 1: forward to seeing some of my Stu bucks on their 487 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 1: feet at that time. I know you and your family 488 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:22,760 Speaker 1: also do some hunting in Kentucky. How was the stage 489 00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:25,159 Speaker 1: of the ruts been maybe different up there than what 490 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 1: it is in Tennessee. Yeah, they're just usually a little 491 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:32,680 Speaker 1: more advanced as far as the timetable. Bucks are are 492 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:35,520 Speaker 1: rutting pretty good up there right now. Yeah. I've got 493 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 1: my dad's actually up there with my mom right now, um, 494 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 1: and they've seen good activity. She has seen a couple 495 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:44,159 Speaker 1: of good shooters out in daylight, but I didn't have 496 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:47,160 Speaker 1: a chance to pull triggers, so hopefully today I think 497 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:49,440 Speaker 1: they're out in this morning. So what did you say 498 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 1: that lockdown is approaching either state right now, Kentucky or 499 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:54,879 Speaker 1: Tennessee or do you think we're a little bit off that. 500 00:25:55,800 --> 00:26:00,439 Speaker 1: I'd say it's it's probably approaching Kentucky sooner than us. Um. 501 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:04,920 Speaker 1: I think it'll probably be internet timetable, probably uh, within 502 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:07,360 Speaker 1: the next ten days or so. UM. And I think 503 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:10,320 Speaker 1: here at home it will probably be more a couple 504 00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:13,440 Speaker 1: of weeks maybe, UM, but it could be a little sooner. 505 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 1: I don't know, you're join. We'll just see what the 506 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:16,720 Speaker 1: weather kind of does. I think we're gonna dry out 507 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:18,440 Speaker 1: a little bit and we may warm back up, so 508 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:20,639 Speaker 1: if it may put a couple of things, we'll see. 509 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:23,640 Speaker 1: What do you see for signmaking right now? If Tennessee 510 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:25,840 Speaker 1: is a little bit behind, then maybe you're seeing some 511 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:30,480 Speaker 1: rubs and scrapes that are still active. Is that the case? Oh? 512 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:33,879 Speaker 1: I think the most active rub that I saw I 513 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:35,880 Speaker 1: saw about a week ago, and it looked like it 514 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 1: was made at least a few days prior to that, UM, 515 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:41,680 Speaker 1: and it was kind of along the line that all 516 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 1: showed similar signs. So I think that activity is kind 517 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 1: of slowed down for us. UM, the scrapes that we've 518 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:50,880 Speaker 1: had are kind of dropping off a little bit at 519 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:53,440 Speaker 1: this point. I think, you know, they're kind of all 520 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:57,080 Speaker 1: efforts are shifting towards finding that dough and that's kind 521 00:26:57,119 --> 00:27:00,760 Speaker 1: of shifting my tactics a little bit as well as 522 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:03,760 Speaker 1: far as like what I'll use for our sense. You know, UM, 523 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:07,560 Speaker 1: I'm starting to use astro still right now at home. 524 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:09,800 Speaker 1: I'll drag that in every time. You know, we've got 525 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:11,880 Speaker 1: young bucks chasing, Like I said, I think mature bucks 526 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 1: are gonna be coming in soon, so it's good to 527 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 1: have out there. And then once I know that mature 528 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:18,879 Speaker 1: bucks are little up on their feet a little bit 529 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,879 Speaker 1: more and looking, I'll start employing a little more of 530 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:24,320 Speaker 1: that rotten buck at that time, and I'll use that 531 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:27,640 Speaker 1: in tandem with the astrostough. You guys are on quite 532 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:30,879 Speaker 1: a few trail cameras between your Kentucky and Tennessee properties. 533 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:33,639 Speaker 1: What is your strategy with those right now? You know, 534 00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:36,800 Speaker 1: for example, where they set up UM and maybe how 535 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:38,440 Speaker 1: is that different from what they were doing a few 536 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:43,480 Speaker 1: weeks ago we shifted more to UM sign in the 537 00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:46,800 Speaker 1: woods set up. We were setting them up near buck 538 00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:49,160 Speaker 1: Betting UM earlier in the season. You know, we're doing 539 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:51,200 Speaker 1: a lot of field edges, just even a couple of 540 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 1: weeks ago, a lot of field edges primarily looking at 541 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:58,040 Speaker 1: scrapes and and employee mock scrapes for intel. And now 542 00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:01,119 Speaker 1: we've kind of we're shifting to even our setups are 543 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:03,600 Speaker 1: are in the woods a little bit more now. You know, 544 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:05,840 Speaker 1: as we shift into lay season in the rut, we're 545 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:08,920 Speaker 1: iron travel routes a little bit more than than anything 546 00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:11,560 Speaker 1: going forward. Then the sixt week or so. What do 547 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:13,359 Speaker 1: you think that bucket activity is going to be on 548 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:16,440 Speaker 1: a scale of one to ten in Tennessee. I think 549 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:19,439 Speaker 1: we'll hit a nine here in the next week. Um. 550 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:22,719 Speaker 1: You know, I don't know if we'll reach full peak. Uh. 551 00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:26,119 Speaker 1: I hope we will. Um, I think we might. I 552 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:27,840 Speaker 1: know I'll be putting in some time in the woods, 553 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:30,359 Speaker 1: So I'm looking forward to seeing those mature bucks getting 554 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:32,760 Speaker 1: up in Adam during daylight hours. Most of what we've 555 00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:35,399 Speaker 1: seen is still taking place at night, you know, for 556 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:38,320 Speaker 1: anything over two and a half years old, So I 557 00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:41,200 Speaker 1: think the time is quickly approaching. All right, Joshua, thanks 558 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:43,800 Speaker 1: for joining me, Thanks for packaging my favorite dear year, 559 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:46,400 Speaker 1: and and good luck this year. Hey, I appreciate it. 560 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:49,680 Speaker 1: Thanks for having Spencer alright and enjoining me on the line. 561 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:53,080 Speaker 1: Next is Keith Thompson in Montana from Montana White Tails. 562 00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:55,400 Speaker 1: Now Keith in Montana. What would you say the bucket 563 00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:57,560 Speaker 1: activity has been lately on a scale of one to ten. 564 00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:02,920 Speaker 1: I'd give it a pretty high nine, or I mean 565 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 1: the high eight. I'm sorry, you know, the last three 566 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 1: or four days for sure. UM, it's really turned on 567 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:12,560 Speaker 1: pretty quickly here. It was kind of dead the last 568 00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:15,560 Speaker 1: week or so because it was so warm here, we 569 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:18,160 Speaker 1: got a good cold front, got a little bit of 570 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:21,640 Speaker 1: snow and it definitely got the deer up on their feet. Um. 571 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:26,120 Speaker 1: Like I said, it's it's been. It's been hit or missed. 572 00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:28,000 Speaker 1: But like I said, the last four days, it's it's 573 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:30,800 Speaker 1: been pretty much on fire. Every day that we've come across, 574 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:33,960 Speaker 1: there's been a buck either locked down with it or 575 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:37,240 Speaker 1: we've had some younger deer that we're nudge and everything. 576 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:39,920 Speaker 1: So it's been it's been really good. If you had 577 00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:41,800 Speaker 1: to put a label down on what stage of the 578 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:44,080 Speaker 1: rut your part of Montana is in, what would you 579 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:48,920 Speaker 1: say that is um as far as maturity or go, 580 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 1: I would definitely say the maturity are starting to lock down. Um. 581 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:55,640 Speaker 1: A lot of the younger box were catching them in 582 00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:59,720 Speaker 1: some of the agg field, just checking does and everything else. 583 00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:03,920 Speaker 1: But we uh, we killed four bucks this week alone 584 00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 1: that we're actually locked down with those. Um. You know, 585 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:10,600 Speaker 1: it really gave us the ability to spot and stoff 586 00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:14,040 Speaker 1: those deer rather than set the tree stand. So it's 587 00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:16,320 Speaker 1: kind of age based. I think the mature deer kind 588 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:18,320 Speaker 1: of locked up, but some of the younger bucks are 589 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:21,160 Speaker 1: you know, up cruising around trying to find the right though. 590 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:24,960 Speaker 1: Now you mentioned seeing bucks out in egg fields. Are 591 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:28,320 Speaker 1: you focusing on those egg fields because that's the food 592 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:30,640 Speaker 1: source that's hot right now? Where is that just where 593 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:34,440 Speaker 1: most of the rutting activity has been visible? Um, we've 594 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:37,240 Speaker 1: been We've been hitting the act fields pretty hard simply 595 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 1: for the fact that you know, there's a bunch of 596 00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:43,360 Speaker 1: does coming into them, and the cooler attempts kind of 597 00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:44,880 Speaker 1: actually had the deer up on their feet in the 598 00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:46,480 Speaker 1: middle of the day. So it was one of those 599 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:49,480 Speaker 1: deals where I mean you could see, you could see 600 00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 1: what you wanted to shoot, whether it be seven o'clock 601 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:54,520 Speaker 1: in the morning or one o'clock in the afternoon. It's 602 00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:57,640 Speaker 1: been pretty consistent as far as deer movement the last 603 00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:00,680 Speaker 1: you know, three or four days. So how are your 604 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:03,840 Speaker 1: strategy setups different with hunters who are in camp with 605 00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:07,960 Speaker 1: a rifle versus those of the bow. Um, I mean 606 00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:11,600 Speaker 1: it's we we cause rifles around here. The equalizer, you know, 607 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:15,720 Speaker 1: you can we've been hunting a lot of bail blinds 608 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,680 Speaker 1: and and you know, either that or glass and from 609 00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:20,920 Speaker 1: far away to find the deer to move with the rifle. 610 00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:22,959 Speaker 1: I mean simply, I mean, you know as well as 611 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:26,040 Speaker 1: I do. You can you can definitely reach out and 612 00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:28,960 Speaker 1: touch him with a rifle. Nowadays, where with our bow 613 00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:32,560 Speaker 1: hunters were, we're concentrating them more in uh some of 614 00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:36,200 Speaker 1: the river bottom. Uh, you know, we're we're looking for 615 00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:39,280 Speaker 1: bottnecks where it pinches them down the you know, the 616 00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:41,640 Speaker 1: natural curve of the river really pinches the deer at 617 00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:44,560 Speaker 1: some spots, and um, you know, the deer have their 618 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:48,120 Speaker 1: favorite crossings. We we tend to work all our bow 619 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:50,520 Speaker 1: hunters in there where you get that you know, forty 620 00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:53,880 Speaker 1: and less shot. Are there any weather patterns this time 621 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,240 Speaker 1: of year, in mid November that you think really changed 622 00:31:56,320 --> 00:32:02,600 Speaker 1: things positive or negative for deer movement Montana weathers Uh, 623 00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:04,920 Speaker 1: it's pretty tough to judge. One day at snow and 624 00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:08,880 Speaker 1: the next day at the beginning of the week it was, uh, 625 00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,600 Speaker 1: well even yesterday morning it was it was, you know, 626 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:13,760 Speaker 1: four degrees out and now today it's supposed to be 627 00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:17,360 Speaker 1: up into the forties. So it's it's been hit or miss. 628 00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:20,520 Speaker 1: But the cold weather at the beginning of the week 629 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:23,920 Speaker 1: most definitely played a part in you know, more activity. 630 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:25,719 Speaker 1: I mean you could see it across the board we 631 00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:28,760 Speaker 1: were seeing more out, more moose. I mean it was 632 00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:31,600 Speaker 1: it just had everything up moving around a lot better. 633 00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:34,680 Speaker 1: Going forward. Then in this next week or so, what 634 00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:36,400 Speaker 1: do you think that buck activity is going to be 635 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:41,000 Speaker 1: on a scale of one to tend in Montana? Uh? Well, 636 00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:44,360 Speaker 1: from my point, I hope pretty high. Um. You know, 637 00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:48,760 Speaker 1: I think if the temperatures stay relatively cool, I mean 638 00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:51,360 Speaker 1: I don't see it slowing down at all. Um. I 639 00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:53,080 Speaker 1: mean I would, I would give it at least an eight, 640 00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:58,160 Speaker 1: you know, and hopefully hopefully turned on from here. Generally, 641 00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:01,200 Speaker 1: this week and Thanksgiving week the week coming have been 642 00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:05,480 Speaker 1: our absolute best weeks of the rut. I mean, in 643 00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:10,200 Speaker 1: the last twelve thirteen years. Um. So it's it's always 644 00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:13,640 Speaker 1: an exciting time. You always look forward to it. Um. 645 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:17,000 Speaker 1: You hope you get the weather that you want, which is, 646 00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:20,400 Speaker 1: you know, I prefer like mid twenties maybe, Um, but 647 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:23,720 Speaker 1: last year it crept up into the forties a couple 648 00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:26,320 Speaker 1: of times last last year on this same week, and 649 00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:29,080 Speaker 1: and the activity was just as good as ever. So 650 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:32,440 Speaker 1: it's it's one of those deals. You just you know 651 00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:34,480 Speaker 1: what I mean, you you hope you get what you want. 652 00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:37,640 Speaker 1: Light Keith, Well, good luck to your hunters in Camp. 653 00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:42,040 Speaker 1: Thanks for joining me, yep, thank you, and that concludes 654 00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:45,520 Speaker 1: this week's episode of Wired to Hunt's radio. Thanks to Bryce, 655 00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:48,520 Speaker 1: bo Josh and Keith for joining me, and thank you 656 00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:51,720 Speaker 1: guys for listening. As always, make sure you're following Weird 657 00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:55,000 Speaker 1: to Hunt on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, and YouTube, and follow 658 00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:58,920 Speaker 1: me Spencer new Heart and my blog Rut Fresh on Facebook, Twitter, 659 00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:02,000 Speaker 1: and Instagram. Is well. Check out the meat Eater dot 660 00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:05,920 Speaker 1: com this week for some videos, podcasts, and some articles 661 00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:08,680 Speaker 1: by Mark and I, and it's also a great resource 662 00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:12,880 Speaker 1: for all other things hunting, fishing, conservation, and cooking. 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