Speaker 1: Watch up and welcome back to another episode of No
Speaker 1: Senllers Podcast with your host. Now, fuck that with your
Speaker 1: load glasses, Malone.
Speaker 2: I just think I agree with your boy.
Speaker 3: Why do you agree with.
Speaker 4: Stell because you can't live off of nothing I did period, Like,
Speaker 4: now that you got a new dude, how that work?
Speaker 1: You pro created with this person, You started a family
Speaker 1: with this person, and you feel like because you are
Speaker 1: not a part of the family that the family doesn't exist.
Speaker 2: The family exists when they come to me and my
Speaker 2: other family house.
Speaker 1: No, yes, okay, So I see where you I see
Speaker 1: where you went wrong. You went wrong not understanding. Once
Speaker 1: you impregnate a woman, she's now a part of your
Speaker 1: family for ever. That's going to be your son or
Speaker 1: daughter's mother. That's your family.
Speaker 3: So if you know, if you think.
Speaker 1: That first, that will help you make better decisions because
Speaker 1: you're not just getting a child, you're getting another adult.
Speaker 4: All I'm saying is we all grew up the same way.
Speaker 4: We got a bunch of friends that grew up with
Speaker 4: no daddy.
Speaker 2: Isn't nothing. It happens. So if the.
Speaker 4: Woman don't overplayed the man, it's okay. But if you
Speaker 4: get to doing all the wild stuff, hitting the homies
Speaker 4: from the hood and all that. Then know we're done.
Speaker 4: And I don't know if I say it not, but
Speaker 4: I might fuck him up.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, but why if you just knocked her down?
Speaker 2: The principal?
Speaker 3: What's the principle?
Speaker 4: Uh, nobody can't come behind me and think it's cool,
Speaker 4: especially when I'm on.
Speaker 1: So shouldn't you start questioning that woman's taste because after
Speaker 1: you shit a nobody, or maybe I should start thinking
Speaker 1: to yourself.
Speaker 5: That's not true because after you, she could afford to
Speaker 5: have a nobody because she didn't need to have a
Speaker 5: standards because she already got the meal tick. And now
Speaker 5: she could be whoever the fuck she wants to be
Speaker 5: because you're paying for her to be.
Speaker 3: So then who is the idiot? Oh man, it happens.
Speaker 4: You You like the only well probably you and him
Speaker 4: was the only dudes over forty two pet don't kids.
Speaker 6: Undefeated like Mayweather baby, and here.
Speaker 3: You're the only ones with no y.
Speaker 4: So it's four of us, you know, specifically, if I'm
Speaker 4: gonna tell you one more, I.
Speaker 1: Know, stretch yes, because we all were thinking if I
Speaker 1: get her pregnant, I didn't think I would just get
Speaker 1: a kid. I thought I would inherit hurt the kid.
Speaker 1: Party is easy. I would have adopted child.
Speaker 3: So is it being smart or being disciplined.
Speaker 2: You gotta look too.
Speaker 5: Crazy smart big big, disciplined is smart.
Speaker 6: There's a relationship there.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry.
Speaker 4: I was getting locked up at a young age, so
Speaker 4: whatever time I could shoot it off, I shot it.
Speaker 1: And with that being said, coming coming from broking homes,
Speaker 1: like I was telling myself like, I ain't gonna be like,
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna end up in a situation like what
Speaker 1: I seem like.
Speaker 3: So I don't know.
Speaker 1: I guess it depends on the person, right, Like there's
Speaker 1: some people that just be free willing and busting all
Speaker 1: over and thinking it's cool.
Speaker 3: And you know what I'm.
Speaker 7: Saying, I feel like too, Like I had all the homies,
Speaker 7: it was all getting everybody pregnant and ship, and then
Speaker 7: I seen how that ship started to pan down, Like
Speaker 7: I ain't with that ship, So I did every percussionary
Speaker 7: like make shure I don't go that path.
Speaker 3: Especially when you do music, like.
Speaker 7: They had to sell their computers, their studio stuff to
Speaker 7: you know what I'm saying, to provide I'm like.
Speaker 2: I wasn't.
Speaker 1: That wasn't what I was trying to do. So we
Speaker 1: was all thinking. Hug wasn't thinking at all. He was
Speaker 1: in it but a moment, you know what I mean, Well,
Speaker 1: I might as well get I'm not gonna be around
Speaker 1: I might as well get birth to another.
Speaker 3: Yeah, let somebody we talk about that.
Speaker 1: Let me be put another life who might need I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna be.
Speaker 3: Around this one when they get old enough to have
Speaker 3: each other, Hug, because it happen. Take glass and seld
Speaker 3: me the other day.
Speaker 1: You need to have a baby because you know you're
Speaker 1: for to get old to take care of you. Bro
Speaker 1: on Olivia's soul. Bro Rest my mom. I've heard that
Speaker 1: so many times. I'm gonna take care of you and
Speaker 1: get older. I never thought a kid would take care
Speaker 1: of me when I got older.
Speaker 3: I never thought of that.
Speaker 1: I never heard that concept. Hug told me that the
Speaker 1: other day. We was at that spot of sack. Oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: you don't want nobody take care of you. I'm like,
Speaker 1: that's a crappy reason now, But if you think about it, bro,
Speaker 1: most of the reason people have kids are bad things.
Speaker 1: I want to show a token of our love or
Speaker 1: I want to see a little piece of me on
Speaker 1: the earth, nigga, you know how selfish that is?
Speaker 6: Selfish? The kid's not there yet. The kid is not there.
Speaker 1: No, but even the thought of it, like the way
Speaker 1: I thought about it is. Every time I had those
Speaker 1: stupid thoughts, I always think to myself, do I really
Speaker 1: want to take care of another human being?
Speaker 3: For ever?
Speaker 6: Two of them?
Speaker 1: A mother and my child. That's all I think about.
Speaker 1: And I'm not arrogant enough to think to myself, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm the ship. A little piece of me need to
Speaker 1: last once I'm gone. I think the world will be
Speaker 1: all right if I'm not around this motherfucker. I've never
Speaker 1: been that full of myself to where I thought to myself, Oh,
Speaker 1: the world is gonna be a better place if it's
Speaker 1: a worse place without. I can't be that full of
Speaker 1: I don't need to see another little I'm gonna give
Speaker 1: y'all hell every day I'm own this motherfucker. I don't
Speaker 1: know if y'all can handle another meat with that type
Speaker 1: of confidence.
Speaker 3: I'm already too much for this motherfucker.
Speaker 1: Every week I'm getting cussed out on Twitter because I
Speaker 1: said something funny that niggas think I'm crazy.
Speaker 3: I'm talking about Drake shit.
Speaker 1: I'm talking about all these little pictures and videos they put.
Speaker 1: I'm like, man, it's like a funeral memorial slide show, right,
Speaker 1: and you thought this nigga died, right, And his fans like, well,
Speaker 1: you know, we asked Drake fans, we want to see
Speaker 1: you know, his content. I'm like, well, he ain't been
Speaker 1: leaking this shit to y'all the whole time. Why is
Speaker 1: he leaking it right now now? Not talking shit about
Speaker 1: because that's not what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: I'm just saying it look weird. Like so, I think his.
Speaker 1: Thought in his mind, you know, I think he's a
Speaker 1: really good marketing person. It's a bit, but that's just
Speaker 1: enough in this time whereas like, let me make them
Speaker 1: remember why they love me. No, we love you because
Speaker 1: you're successful. That's what we love about you. You make
Speaker 1: a good product as a record, and you're successful. We
Speaker 1: don't even know you, nigga. You had a kid and.
Speaker 3: None of us knew.
Speaker 1: A rapper nigga from Virginia told us all you had
Speaker 1: a fucking kid.
Speaker 3: That's how much we are out of tune with your life.
Speaker 1: We don't know you, nigga.
Speaker 3: We know the house that you built.
Speaker 1: We only know your successful points because the thing about
Speaker 1: hip hop is rooted in culture. That's why I know
Speaker 1: Hug Hug is from motherfucking Hunter's point. I know a
Speaker 1: Frisco nigga. I don't know what they are about. I know
Speaker 1: the cars they like. He could be one or two
Speaker 1: different niggas, but I know them. Coultring like, he know
Speaker 1: Crip's culture, so he gonna know certain things. He could
Speaker 1: give me some of my birthday and most likely I
Speaker 1: would like it. I wouldn't know what to get drinked
Speaker 1: who is cuz culturally I would just get him an
Speaker 1: eighteen year old bitch.
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, that's the closest I can get to it.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, So.
Speaker 1: Mean that's the only thing I really know. Like what
Speaker 1: else would I get?
Speaker 3: Cuts?
Speaker 1: And I've heard one hundred million of cub songs. I
Speaker 1: wouldn't know what to get you because nigga, you're not
Speaker 1: culturally part of are y'am a cu. I wouldn't know
Speaker 1: what cool to get you because that is not what
Speaker 1: you've given us. So this is no seilings gl trying
Speaker 1: something new, getting to it. Peter in the house, Peter
Speaker 1: Way and Florida. What's up Pete?
Speaker 6: Hello gentlemen.
Speaker 1: So my boy Hug from Hunter's Point, San Francisco, brought
Speaker 1: some of it.
Speaker 3: Is good. Peoples down here want to go on introduce them.
Speaker 8: Go by the name of Dars producer artists believe that
Speaker 8: b three out of San Francisco Media compound artist development, producer, writer, director.
Speaker 1: Risk in the fucking house, Joah, Lafornia connection.
Speaker 5: It's my twenty year anniversary. It feels like this week
Speaker 5: twenty years ago I moved to Oakland. Would say that
Speaker 5: was the last to every juco Oakland has. I had
Speaker 5: one class on four campuses. I was a mirror. I
Speaker 5: was at Laney, I was at that one in Berkeley.
Speaker 5: I was at the other fucking one Alameda College. I
Speaker 5: was at every goddamn school they had for an hour
Speaker 5: a day.
Speaker 1: Crime. So this is peace Grave. So no, we was
Speaker 1: talking about we were talking about Cam Newton. Cam Newton
Speaker 1: sat down with the homegirl from from Long Beach and
Speaker 1: they did a great conversation, and I was in my
Speaker 1: I was in my uh my basketball chat with my
Speaker 1: hoop homies. We were talking about it, and I was
Speaker 1: thinking to myself, who really should be more worried right
Speaker 1: as the guy like you know, the guy you know,
Speaker 1: you you go pro create with some woman you don't
Speaker 1: know or you don't have no real ties with, right,
Speaker 1: you just go pro create with her. Right, She's now
Speaker 1: entitled to a check right to raise your child based
Speaker 1: off of how much you are in it. Because they
Speaker 1: want to make sure that the lifestyle fits the same.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: They don't want to be too far. They don't want
Speaker 1: you to go from Beverly Hills to county. You know,
Speaker 1: if the mom can only afford counting and Beverly Hills
Speaker 1: to the you know, to the county is a bit
Speaker 1: drastic for a growing child.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 1: So, and the person that's raising your future you know
Speaker 1: your lineage or is it the woman right who? Now
Speaker 1: you have kind of put miles on yourself right where
Speaker 1: now you're you're allowing people to use your soil to
Speaker 1: procreate themselves. And now you have to deal with the
Speaker 1: dating field of now everybody looking at you like you
Speaker 1: now you can end up with two or three you
Speaker 1: know baby dads, you know what I'm saying. And now
Speaker 1: men looking at you crazy, like how had you just
Speaker 1: letting men use you? And you never been married? So
Speaker 1: we was thinking about that, like with the cam News situation,
Speaker 1: who was worse?
Speaker 3: And I thought it would be for a good podcast.
Speaker 3: But listen to you, Huggs.
Speaker 1: Is interesting because you feel like it, you know, because
Speaker 1: you do have a child with somebody that you not No,
Speaker 1: that ain't your old lady. What should be your responsibilities
Speaker 1: at that point?
Speaker 2: Yeah, you gotta look off for your kids.
Speaker 1: What about the woman who gave you your kids?
Speaker 2: What about?
Speaker 1: Do you not feel like you are indebted to this person?
Speaker 2: Fuck na.
Speaker 3: Heat over here claiming And.
Speaker 1: That's the exact point. That's the confusion you are because
Speaker 1: this person gave you what's needed to carry your lineage.
Speaker 3: That's the confusion.
Speaker 6: Oh that's the greatest.
Speaker 4: I'm just lucky because I got some cool babe mama's.
Speaker 4: But you know a lot of dudes is not cool
Speaker 4: like that. Like some chicks me, I'm going to put
Speaker 4: your on child support and I'm doing this. I'm doing
Speaker 4: that like nah, because then you're gonna make the I'm
Speaker 4: just happy I got good baby mamas because I would
Speaker 4: have I would have hated to be a nigga.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but what's a good baby mom?
Speaker 3: I think if it's not out of spike, it's out
Speaker 3: of need, right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, one that can just call me and then once
Speaker 4: the kid get five or six, even if she gonna
Speaker 4: coach my kid to say hey, I need.
Speaker 2: Something dad, all right, that's fine.
Speaker 4: But if you can just call and I send it
Speaker 4: to your account or whatever, that's fine. But I'm not
Speaker 4: going to give you a set amount just because you
Speaker 4: say no, I'll go batch, Well, I go have my
Speaker 4: mama buy the clothes, do all the school shopping or whatever.
Speaker 2: But no, this is just me giving you money.
Speaker 1: No, But you don't think that's the confusion to confuse,
Speaker 1: And like how we started this podcast explaining to you
Speaker 1: that you don't just like you don't just get a child,
Speaker 1: You inherit a family member as well.
Speaker 2: I got a big family. I got enough family members.
Speaker 2: My kid is my keyd.
Speaker 4: No matter what, Mama, she gonna go get another door
Speaker 4: to make another baby that's not my baby.
Speaker 1: That don't change the fact that no matter what happens
Speaker 1: to this lady, that kid is permanently affected. Like that's
Speaker 1: why I gotta get y'all to understand. You inherit a
Speaker 1: family member when you get somebody pregnant. And if you
Speaker 1: thought like that you would make a hundred times of
Speaker 1: a better decision with who you land with and for
Speaker 1: sure busting another in. Right when we was young, you
Speaker 1: didn't know. But even to hear you right now as
Speaker 1: we grown and you still feel this thought, it's like, no,
Speaker 1: this is what you gotta be telling your son. Hey man,
Speaker 1: you want this girl to be your family member, like
Speaker 1: she gonna be your family member.
Speaker 3: You stuck with her.
Speaker 1: If she died, your kid might be messed up for life.
Speaker 1: You can't just replace the mama, Like, it don't work
Speaker 1: that way. So you have to understand you are responsible
Speaker 1: for this person's well being as much as your child,
Speaker 1: because this person's well being is tied to your child.
Speaker 2: That's true.
Speaker 4: Now I'm gonna take this back and give it to
Speaker 4: my son, but I still ain't changing how I think.
Speaker 1: Well, that's the point, roight, I just need to we done.
Speaker 3: At best.
Speaker 1: We got another sixty years on this. We ain't got
Speaker 1: much left. That's a good sixty year. We didn't did shit.
Speaker 1: So it's the next generation to make wiser decisions, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Like you're when you get a
Speaker 1: woman pregnant, like in Cam Newton's spot, like long as
Speaker 1: he understands he's inheriting these women, like you got three
Speaker 1: wives that may end up sleeping with other people. And
Speaker 1: that's why people get so mad. Like you ever seen
Speaker 1: with certain homies get mad when somebody sleep with their
Speaker 1: baby mama for sure.
Speaker 3: For sure.
Speaker 1: Like an example the other the other day, I was
Speaker 1: telling them I was up up the strip club and
Speaker 1: this this pa came up to me and asked me
Speaker 1: not to take his bitches. Not that I'm appear nothing,
Speaker 1: but I get. I can't, Yeah, I can't. I get
Speaker 1: the thing is that not say insecurity or thing. It's
Speaker 1: just like, you know, a lot of motherfucks feel uneasy
Speaker 1: they're not with us. It's kind of different because how
Speaker 1: our culture is, like we were like, man, forget that bitch.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. Whatever it's from the bitch,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: But like, you know, I get it because a lot
Speaker 1: of men is you know, it's just how it is.
Speaker 1: It's like they feel like that's their property or their territory.
Speaker 1: They feel like, you know, that's just ego, pride. A
Speaker 1: lot of things is involved with it, and a lot
Speaker 1: of people can't really put that aside. At the end
Speaker 1: of the day, like damn man, Like you know, if
Speaker 1: she do what she do, what's really on her, you
Speaker 1: can't be too mad at her, especially if you ain't
Speaker 1: fucking with her like that even.
Speaker 3: Listen, and and that's normal in a ghetto. Whatch further
Speaker 3: goes to.
Speaker 1: My point, you like, this is one of your wives
Speaker 1: that somebody else may be entitled to sleep with. And
Speaker 1: you may not even be sleeping with her because you
Speaker 1: started a family with her. And guess what, until you
Speaker 1: move on right and get you a wife, it may
Speaker 1: bother you every time she sleep with somebody else. You
Speaker 1: you making it about the kids, like she not smart
Speaker 1: enough not to have the wrong person around her kids,
Speaker 1: or like you not smart enough to not y'all both
Speaker 1: smart enough to know what type of people.
Speaker 3: I mean, sometimes people got it wrong, but that ain't the.
Speaker 1: Standard, right. But the thing is, that's why you be
Speaker 1: so invested in who she fucking and if you look
Speaker 1: at it like I've always thought of it, Nobody, Olivia
Speaker 1: good Bar, nobody ever had to put this in my mind.
Speaker 1: Not Robert, not Pool, not Lenny you know, not to mail,
Speaker 1: not none of my older sisters. Nobody had to put
Speaker 1: this in my mind. I always looked at like, if
Speaker 1: I get her pregnant, I'm stuck with her. I'm stuck
Speaker 1: with her. Yeah, that's all I'm saying. So I don't
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't quite get it, you know how,
Speaker 1: you don't see it that way.
Speaker 4: God forbid you have a kid and that woman leaves
Speaker 4: you and then when you get to call let me
Speaker 4: tell me, honey, sneak, I'm gonna be laughing at you, like,
Speaker 4: oh now you want to kill him?
Speaker 5: Hunh No.
Speaker 1: But the thing is, I know, I know you.
Speaker 2: Know what this.
Speaker 3: This is why I haven't had a kid. Now.
Speaker 1: You never know who's gonna be the right one either
Speaker 1: to That's another thing.
Speaker 3: But I'm saying if you.
Speaker 1: Meet somebody, if you meeting somebody for sure in the club,
Speaker 1: they probably not the right person in the first two minutes.
Speaker 1: If the first time she take Now that's not to
Speaker 1: say it's not some good women that you might meet
Speaker 1: that you are one night or the first night y'all
Speaker 1: hang out and work out. Look, there's nothing wrong with that,
Speaker 1: but if it goes wrong, you really can't be surprised.
Speaker 1: Like I'm more surprised when I meet a woman and
Speaker 1: we sleep together the first time we hang out. When
Speaker 1: it go right, I'll be surprised. I'm like, damn, she
Speaker 1: don't even know she's a home.
Speaker 3: To romance me too that you have, which I kind
Speaker 3: of agree with you.
Speaker 7: It's like a super It feels traditional, like I feel
Speaker 7: like nowadays, like when people everybody just fucking it's just entertainment,
Speaker 7: like it's a personal fucking goal to do or some shit,
Speaker 7: and they don't really think about like like around your
Speaker 7: family type shit like nowadays, fucking it's just like whatever.
Speaker 7: But like that's how it feels like they see like that,
Speaker 7: and it just so happens.
Speaker 3: You might get a bit pregnant, that's al.
Speaker 7: And then and then and then that's when they think
Speaker 7: about what we're thinking about. Now, Oh ship, I'm gonna
Speaker 7: have to spend my whole life with this girl, you know.
Speaker 7: I mean I've always looked at after the fact, which
Speaker 7: it should have been, Like I said, it should have
Speaker 7: been before you even fuck the bitch, Like.
Speaker 5: I always think of the worst case scenario first. To me,
Speaker 5: the worst case scenarios. I don't want to get put
Speaker 5: on child sport and fuck up my whole long term vision.
Speaker 5: And I think, honestly, it's probably not ideal to knock
Speaker 5: down chicks and to have random girls try to singularly
Speaker 5: raise kids or whatever the fuck with not a great
Speaker 5: joint investment by the parents. It's not it's not like
Speaker 5: the ideal scenario for the kid, right, make it work,
Speaker 5: you can, but it's probably not ideal.
Speaker 6: There's a lot of girls out there.
Speaker 5: I've heard enough women say I don't want to put
Speaker 5: a man bluntly speaking girls I was listening to at
Speaker 5: the time, I don't want to put another black man
Speaker 5: on the system, they'll say that. But to apply to
Speaker 5: any man in general, of any background, I feel like
Speaker 5: that mentality is pervasive enough to where there's this maybe
Speaker 5: she won't and the deterrent element of that is removed,
Speaker 5: so it can allow for more care free, so to speak, behavior,
Speaker 5: which is you know, has its ramifications.
Speaker 1: I mean, look, I do respect them sisters that understand,
Speaker 1: you know, how does country treat people that's not white?
Speaker 1: And I respect them that don't want to put those
Speaker 1: in the system.
Speaker 5: And I can name several men like that who got
Speaker 5: several kids with several women and none of them put
Speaker 5: them on.
Speaker 3: They just damn it.
Speaker 6: I'll just leave it in again. I'll just leave it again.
Speaker 1: Fucking yeah, I'm not upset at that, Like I think
Speaker 1: that's dope, right, I'm really like, I'm not.
Speaker 3: Mad at that.
Speaker 1: But I'm saying the premise is long as cam Newton
Speaker 1: understand he's inheriting whys in their wives that you may
Speaker 1: not sleep with again, their why that somebody else may
Speaker 1: be sleeping with you're not just making a child you like,
Speaker 1: this is the greatest point you have to understand. And
Speaker 1: this is, like I said, I've always thought of it
Speaker 1: this way, but I do hear a lot of people
Speaker 1: that don't see it this way, and I'm like, well,
Speaker 1: that's why you're having the problem. That's why you're mad
Speaker 1: that somebody is knocking your baby mama down, because it's.
Speaker 3: Your old lady.
Speaker 1: You just sat here and started a family. Remember, like
Speaker 1: in a biblical times, like if you slept with a woman,
Speaker 1: y'all was married. That's kind of the innate thing before
Speaker 1: they came into power with the concept of legal marriages
Speaker 1: and the church. If you slept with somebody, oh, y'all together,
Speaker 1: that's the intention, you know what I'm saying. So, yes,
Speaker 1: we could try to pervert it, you know, good old people.
Speaker 1: That's not like white people. They're perverted and kind of
Speaker 1: bring it to a simpler you know understanding of like, oh, well,
Speaker 1: legally you have to go to a court.
Speaker 3: No, if you sleep with.
Speaker 1: Her innately me, especially if you pro create with her,
Speaker 1: you may be vested more in her life than the
Speaker 1: average person. You might just be vested in her life.
Speaker 1: You're like, you know what you might be vesting in
Speaker 1: her life, So you gotta think like that before you
Speaker 1: lay up, especially and then pregnant somebody. You should really
Speaker 1: be thinking like that for you just lay up with
Speaker 1: them period. Well for sure, if you feel to be
Speaker 1: busting anot up in this motherfucking possibly getting pregnant, you
Speaker 1: really should think this person is gonna represent me forever.
Speaker 1: If she a raggedy mom to your kids, Bro, that's you.
Speaker 1: You look stupid your new girl to be talking about
Speaker 1: how raggedy old bitch was. You fuck with this nasty bitch,
Speaker 1: and you fucked this nasty bitch.
Speaker 6: You can't hide it from me. You can't. You can't see.
Speaker 5: You can't fuck a bitch on a bad night on
Speaker 5: the sneak, And if she turns up pregnant, no one's
Speaker 5: gonna know that you did it. Yes, everyone's gone, and
Speaker 5: Lord knows however raggedy.
Speaker 1: And ghetto she is or how fucked up she is.
Speaker 1: It's the representation of your taste in fact, straight up,
Speaker 1: and if you and if you think about that before,
Speaker 1: you would really think about where you plant seed that, bro,
Speaker 1: that's a.
Speaker 4: Good one, because you just I was about to say
Speaker 4: something I thought about it.
Speaker 3: Ain't good about it, bro.
Speaker 1: So so even like Cam, like I respect Cam because
Speaker 1: I thought to myself, Cam is probably the one getting
Speaker 1: over right, because Cam gets the ability to pro create
Speaker 1: his lineage and legacy. That's the ultimate gift for most men,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, except a couple of us
Speaker 1: who raise hell in this world by ourself, take everybody
Speaker 1: to make Big Nigga's life crazy and make our own
Speaker 1: impact with Most people live vicariously through the next generation
Speaker 1: because they ain't ship.
Speaker 3: Yeah you know so.
Speaker 1: But Cam is is somebody who's been successful. He gets
Speaker 1: a chance to pro create his legacy. He can afford
Speaker 1: you us without paying the ultimate without paying the ultimate sacrifice.
Speaker 1: Like our Bundy always say, you know the ball and chain,
Speaker 1: because that's what women used to hold you to that standard.
Speaker 1: They didn't just want a check, They wanted your blood. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they want your life. No, no, not for me to
Speaker 1: give you a kid. Women seventy years ago would demanded rings, weddings,
Speaker 1: family events, everything. Now you know, it's cheap, it's a check.
Speaker 1: So I think men are on the winning side if
Speaker 1: they're thinking, you know, a woman, at the end.
Speaker 3: Of the day, she just get a check.
Speaker 1: A man, you get to carry on your lineage that
Speaker 1: and above, and that's what the point of it is.
Speaker 1: So I just I don't know, I don't know how
Speaker 1: to feel, but I definitely feel like we see it differently.
Speaker 1: Back to that point I'm saying, where if you thought
Speaker 1: of it this way, then everything that the state of
Speaker 1: California does make sense to you. If you make a
Speaker 1: million dollars a month, they probably gonna take fifty to
Speaker 1: one hundred thousand dollars from you.
Speaker 3: But for this lady to raise your child, that's not
Speaker 3: a bad deal to me.
Speaker 1: Taxes might be about five hundred yeah, yeah, feel me
Speaker 1: one hundred thousand. But if you think of it like
Speaker 1: she just it's just you just oh, it's just a kid. No,
Speaker 1: you got her too. This bitch is packaged deal.
Speaker 2: That's why that's why prenups is default.
Speaker 1: And that's a marriage. I don't even want to get
Speaker 1: into alimony because on that I don't even want to
Speaker 1: get in that alimony and legal marriage they tear.
Speaker 3: Your ass apart.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and if you are making a million dollars a month,
Speaker 1: I mean basically you couldn't afford to do it.
Speaker 3: I'm just saying, like.
Speaker 2: Baby mama and include, Yes.
Speaker 3: She's included. She's getting that all my kids.
Speaker 2: I talk to my kids.
Speaker 1: Guess what perfect you went through? The eighteen years A
Speaker 1: hell of that. But most time, man, think about it. Right,
Speaker 1: when you impregnatetive woman, bro, you really kind of ruined her.
Speaker 1: They used to call it spoiling him in the biblical times.
Speaker 1: You spoil her. You spoiled her like you made her
Speaker 1: bad fruit. And I get why because you looking like
Speaker 1: I'm gonna lie as a man who never had kids
Speaker 1: or thought about, you know, making kids. It's be like,
Speaker 1: why that last nigga ain't with you what you got
Speaker 1: going on? And that's not right. Forgive me to all
Speaker 1: the women. For give me women who listen to no Sillings.
Speaker 1: That's a single parent. You know. I'm not I'm not
Speaker 1: doubting you. I'm saying This is the innate thought that
Speaker 1: if you a good girl, why didn't that nigga keep you?
Speaker 3: And then you know you have the normal rebuttal.
Speaker 1: You know Pete that oh well, I left him, but
Speaker 1: why did he just decide that he was gonna do
Speaker 1: something that wasn't worthy of Every time it goes back
Speaker 1: to why are you not with him?
Speaker 3: Lord knows that y'all got a kid.
Speaker 5: And I said this on the pod too, like for
Speaker 5: for as much as if you're the father, you got
Speaker 5: an issue with the new guy. This is a lot
Speaker 5: of reason why I don't want to fuck with a
Speaker 5: girl with a kid. No one's body gets better after
Speaker 5: you have a kid. As much as you into her now,
Speaker 5: it doesn't get better. There's another guy I have to
Speaker 5: deal with regularly who can look me in the eye
Speaker 5: and go all them stretch marks and ship all those imperfections.
Speaker 5: I put them there, I was there first. I can't
Speaker 5: have a guy walking around town with that much over
Speaker 5: my head.
Speaker 6: I gotta kill him. I can't, I couldn't lift. I
Speaker 6: can't go every two weeks with a guy.
Speaker 5: Gonna look me in the eye with that all and
Speaker 5: I know he's got I can't look like that I disagree.
Speaker 1: Some women do benefit from having a child.
Speaker 3: They do not.
Speaker 5: No one's titties sit higher, No one's stomach gets tighter.
Speaker 3: No, I've seen a.
Speaker 6: Knowledge I think maybe in the right outfit, but not real.
Speaker 1: No, No, it's different the things that we appreciate, like
Speaker 1: you know, you like a certain thing, Like I like
Speaker 1: when women hit spread.
Speaker 3: Out, some of them. Are they to jobs to get when.
Speaker 5: That happens, There's other things that happen with it, that's okay.
Speaker 1: Would you rather have a skinny girl they got a
Speaker 1: six pack and all tight and no ass or a
Speaker 1: girl that.
Speaker 3: Got a little side, some little stuff in the nice
Speaker 3: and nice cakes back then?
Speaker 5: All I say is this, if you're that little and
Speaker 5: it changed your body for the better in that regard,
Speaker 5: it stretched you the funk out because you're that little.
Speaker 3: I like that.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, all right, if you want.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think it's about skinny or big
Speaker 1: girls as much as I like babies make women. You
Speaker 1: know something, especially critigue women. They'll get some hips, get more.
Speaker 6: Breast, more breast, they get flatter breast.
Speaker 1: Mostly that's cool long as they get them. I like
Speaker 1: all the breast.
Speaker 3: Bro breasts are cool. Flat jacks.
Speaker 2: Up.
Speaker 1: Anything that come from God. You have to have appreciation.
Speaker 1: That's like you only like apples, all the fruits like
Speaker 1: I like pomegranates, bananas, orange is key, we I like
Speaker 1: all of for watermelons, I don't.
Speaker 6: Want a moldy one.
Speaker 3: It's not good.
Speaker 6: Mold came from God too.
Speaker 3: I need the real ones. And yeah, as long as
Speaker 3: they got seated, that's it.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I'm in so no, it
Speaker 1: could do you some. I get what you saying, Pete,
Speaker 1: It definitely can. A woman does put her body through
Speaker 1: a lot to give you a child. And and I
Speaker 1: just don't think men think to the you know, I think.
Speaker 3: That's what's been lost mentally to mentally too.
Speaker 1: What's funny is as much as it feels like women
Speaker 1: are getting over now, I think they're getting less. Like
Speaker 1: it went from before men got you pregnant. He had
Speaker 1: to give you his whole life, even if he was
Speaker 1: a dog ass cheek, he had to give you his
Speaker 1: whole life. You had to take care of him, like
Speaker 1: I mean, you had to take care of her forever.
Speaker 1: Now you just get a check and somebody else is
Speaker 1: gonna do you the same weight.
Speaker 3: That cuts both waves, though, I don't know how does
Speaker 3: it go both ways?
Speaker 6: Okay?
Speaker 5: For example, now say you're getting knocked up by LIKEE,
Speaker 5: not a good guy. Right, he's gone, and he's just
Speaker 5: a check coming in the mail every fucking month. Seventy
Speaker 5: five years ago, you get an abusive, drunk ass guy
Speaker 5: and you're stuck to him because he has to support
Speaker 5: you and live there and all that other shit, and
Speaker 5: you're just getting all that crap every fucking night.
Speaker 6: You're just forever.
Speaker 3: Fuck.
Speaker 5: That's not good for them either. It's it's only as
Speaker 5: good as the other party.
Speaker 3: That's true. That's true.
Speaker 1: Somebody could kick your ass and that did. It used
Speaker 1: to happen, Yeah it did, but.
Speaker 3: You got took care of.
Speaker 1: Now you get your ass whipped by somebody that ain't
Speaker 1: your husband, and he don't.
Speaker 3: Pay your bills because for sure.
Speaker 5: One thing leave because your other because your baby daddy
Speaker 5: paying your rent, so the other guy can leave because
Speaker 5: the old baby daddy's paying your rent now, so that
Speaker 5: guy can.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't think that's the ultimate goal.
Speaker 1: I don't think the goal for a woman. I get
Speaker 1: the concept, and some women I do, I believe, will
Speaker 1: think they enjoy that. I don't think nobody want to
Speaker 1: be no old single woman. I mean, there is some women,
Speaker 1: but I don't think.
Speaker 5: But if you're gonna be this way, if you were
Speaker 5: gonna be that dysfunctional to where you're gonna be old
Speaker 5: and single in this environment, it's gonna be dysfunctional.
Speaker 3: In the old environment, it's gonna be just.
Speaker 5: It sends on where your starting point and any point
Speaker 5: are and what the other party is about.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, but again, while I do agree those relationships
Speaker 1: in the past, did have a drunk husband coming home
Speaker 1: to kick your ass because he's taking care.
Speaker 3: Of you, you know, and all that he was taking
Speaker 3: care of you.
Speaker 1: Now niggas just kick your ass and don't take care
Speaker 1: of you, because you're not getting away from niggas kicking
Speaker 1: your ass, not.
Speaker 6: For probably for fifteen years in a row.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, probably just as bad I gonna get
Speaker 1: your ass kicking me somebody that ain't gonna kick your ass.
Speaker 1: You might confuse what's going on if you ever notice,
Speaker 1: like when they talk about those type of situations about
Speaker 1: love and ship, women get used to getting.
Speaker 3: Their ass kicked love ye'all.
Speaker 1: I met some women that were surprised I didn't kick
Speaker 1: the ass.
Speaker 6: Don't you care about me?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: That was exactly real ship and would love one needs right,
Speaker 3: it's like do you want it or do you need it?
Speaker 3: Or you know what I mean. They might getting their
Speaker 3: ass kicked because they thinking it's love.
Speaker 1: But I mean, and it may have been at that time, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it may have been. You know, it's just weird love
Speaker 1: and the love in the twenties or the night or
Speaker 1: eighteen hundreds a little different. Yes, twelve and thirteen. So
Speaker 1: when they got a peer they can marry them. Yeah,
Speaker 1: wella that was different. And they did that to have
Speaker 1: like thirty kids. It was like that was remember that
Speaker 1: was the ultimate goal with Yeah, when you.
Speaker 3: Are slavery as sweaty is. He got that part.
Speaker 1: He brought that part from the from the path. You
Speaker 1: have kids, somebody take care of you. You get old,
Speaker 1: you know, but you to bring the rest of this.
Speaker 1: Niggas love taking the parts they like. That's Nigga's expertise,
Speaker 1: taking the parts they like. No, no, yes, I agree,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. There are benefits for a
Speaker 1: woman today, but it ain't like they're gonna find a
Speaker 1: better guy. I ain't gonna even lie if somebody take
Speaker 1: care of you and can find a reason to get Listen,
Speaker 1: if a dude kick your ass because the coffee is
Speaker 1: too hot, he need therapy, he need But if a
Speaker 1: dude fight you because you probably doing some it is
Speaker 1: a different time too. For sure, women will be getting
Speaker 1: they asked with now them post on social media or
Speaker 1: the husband come home and fire her ship up. You
Speaker 1: are embarrassing me in front of all these people.
Speaker 3: A lot of disrespectful antics going on.
Speaker 1: You feel me and they and they and and they,
Speaker 1: and I think women pride themselves in believing that you're
Speaker 1: supposed to like it cause somebody else want them. I
Speaker 1: heard Steph Curry, old lady say that ship. She was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, I need other people to like me too.
Speaker 1: It's like it's step like you forgive me.
Speaker 3: You know. I don't talk about issue like that because
Speaker 3: I know stuff. I remember the incident. Do I agree
Speaker 3: with that? Like them, you got the best guys. I
Speaker 3: need other attention.
Speaker 2: That's just insecurity, that's all.
Speaker 6: That's not an attribute.
Speaker 1: It has to deal with just the social media in
Speaker 1: the way that they things are these days. That's where
Speaker 1: they get it all fucked up too.
Speaker 4: And you know, how people that's popping on the net
Speaker 4: and they don't they get one uh dislike and somebody
Speaker 4: they're comment on that because all the people that said
Speaker 4: something nice to them on their comments, they didn't acknowledge
Speaker 4: the person that one person that said something bad they respond.
Speaker 6: To or outright block the person.
Speaker 5: So they don't have to be exposed to any potential
Speaker 5: criticism under the circumstance exactly. But like, look at this
Speaker 5: way there. If we ask the market, the market will
Speaker 5: resolve everything. There are enough women either cool with it
Speaker 5: or trying to do it. If not trying, then cool
Speaker 5: with it. If we ask the women, it must not
Speaker 5: be that bad because they can't stop doing it.
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's about what's good for them.
Speaker 1: Women don't really work off of precedents of what's good
Speaker 1: for them. They work off of precedents of what other
Speaker 1: bitches is doing.
Speaker 5: But they live in an environment where perceptionist reality and
Speaker 5: the only person they're more comfortable lying to it than
Speaker 5: you as themselves. So if they think that it's better
Speaker 5: than in there, than it is, because it's all about
Speaker 5: just what the fuck they think.
Speaker 1: Anyway, But I still don't believe that they still have
Speaker 1: to be concerned with other people thinking it's better. It's
Speaker 1: like a trans person like it ain't. If that was true, right,
Speaker 1: then who they were would only matter to them, and
Speaker 1: what nobody else said would matter.
Speaker 3: But because they are, especially the.
Speaker 1: Men that want to become women, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: that feel like they're women, they're adopting a woman's whole ego.
Speaker 1: Whereas like, you gotta treat me like I'm fine. It's like, bro,
Speaker 1: you're not fine. Yeah, Like I could see, you know,
Speaker 1: the masculinity coming out, you know what I mean, Like,
Speaker 1: whatever you did is cool. I'll see what you tried
Speaker 1: to do. I'll respect you. Your name is stephan I'll
Speaker 1: call you Stephanie because you're asking me to.
Speaker 3: But I see it.
Speaker 1: So they go through hell and hot water to not
Speaker 1: confuse themselves, but to confuse me women the same way
Speaker 1: everything a gay person does, they're emulating women. Remember, remember, like,
Speaker 1: so not all gay people forgive me. So if you
Speaker 1: gay and you're a fan of this podcast, a couple
Speaker 1: of gay fans, because I got some gay fans, I'm
Speaker 1: not saying the guys that think they're guys. So if
Speaker 1: you're a guy that that's a gay guy, and you
Speaker 1: just sleep with guys and you're a guy, you get it.
Speaker 3: I mean, you just gay.
Speaker 1: But if you're a guy that think you're a woman,
Speaker 1: remember they're just being caricatures of women.
Speaker 3: That's why they just go over the top.
Speaker 1: Everything is over the top because they're trying to convince
Speaker 1: somebody else knock themselves.
Speaker 3: Get it over flamboyant. Yeah, I mean, and use a.
Speaker 1: Certain way, and and I think you know they feel
Speaker 1: like they are old a lot of credit because definitely
Speaker 1: to take dick without a vagina.
Speaker 3: Is crazy, fucking crazy. I say, hell of.
Speaker 1: An obligation, obligation, you know what I'm saying. That's obligation, dude,
Speaker 1: because because if you gay and you getting a gay
Speaker 1: marriage with another man and you like he knocking you down,
Speaker 1: that bro, you don't even have something positioned to deal
Speaker 1: with that. So you're making a commitment that's like over
Speaker 1: the top, like you gonna just take dick. I couldn't
Speaker 1: do it not for money, bro, that's just a lot from.
Speaker 3: Somebody. Sit glass, could you could you?
Speaker 1: That's my You know, people ask you the weird ass,
Speaker 1: but you tell you let's might sleep with you one
Speaker 1: hundred million? Hell no, hell know that's a lot for
Speaker 1: the rest of my life. I gotta think about taking Dick.
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 5: Time.
Speaker 1: The price comes down around this motherfucker with me, And
Speaker 1: all I'm thinking is like, fuck, I took Dick for money.
Speaker 1: I took Dick period. That ship fucked your head up.
Speaker 1: That's why, bro, that's a hell of a commitment, bro,
Speaker 1: And that's why I really believe so I did.
Speaker 3: Used to have some foolish thoughts.
Speaker 1: I used to think cuz you couldn't convince somebody to
Speaker 1: be gay, Like I don't think you can influence somebody
Speaker 1: to be gay, because I always thought, like taking Dick
Speaker 1: is such a serious commitment you couldn't. But these new
Speaker 1: humans are different, the different They might really be gay
Speaker 1: just to fit in or to get attention, or they
Speaker 1: did some gay shit. Then all of a sudden they're like, oh,
Speaker 1: I'm not gay. I've set it a million times. I
Speaker 1: think the little dude from Atlanta is not gay.
Speaker 3: The pop party that.
Speaker 1: Raps, Yeah, yeah, that's we had a marguments too, because
Speaker 1: I'll be like, I don't think you get you don't
Speaker 1: think you can play like you're just trying to put
Speaker 1: it off for the for the for the you know,
Speaker 1: the fan and that that demographic and all that these
Speaker 1: little gen zs and them out for dudes is smartest
Speaker 1: fucking marketing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they don't have that pride and ego like.
Speaker 1: That, especially if you ain't come from the ghetto. You
Speaker 1: don't got that much pride and ego, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. Like, but when we come from everything that
Speaker 1: fuels us. When you come from a poor community is
Speaker 1: pride and ego. You over value pride, your pride and
Speaker 1: everything you broke when you broke.
Speaker 3: That's a nigga. I'm hold on your word, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean?
Speaker 1: Everything all the dumb ass ship you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: that's everything rich people to be lying a ship.
Speaker 2: Rich yad lying.
Speaker 3: Exactly. Yeah, I got you know, you don't coming out
Speaker 3: that got So I really feel like, like, you know,
Speaker 3: he will do it like he'll he'll play the role.
Speaker 1: It's just acting for them. They don't look at hip
Speaker 1: hop as his culture reflect You think he's representing a
Speaker 1: culture he don't give too fussed by nobody else.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but check don't care about the culture like that.
Speaker 1: You know, he ain't from no street urban culture, so
Speaker 1: there's no burden of responsibility, so he'll do whatever you want.
Speaker 3: You just wake up.
Speaker 1: That's the problem with being a seventh Street watch crip
Speaker 1: nigga that grew up in conquer my whole life and
Speaker 1: watch my whole life. I gotta represent everybody because one
Speaker 1: day I'll go to Bunnies and get a chili cheese
Speaker 1: or rice bro, and I have a problem cause Nigga's like, Bro,
Speaker 1: why'd you do that?
Speaker 3: Sucker ass shit.
Speaker 1: Nigga don't even know me, but he know I grew
Speaker 1: up around here, and I gotta talk to this nigga.
Speaker 1: That's why I felt so confident making Tupaca Must Die.
Speaker 1: It was like, Nigga, there ain't no nigga from where
Speaker 1: I'm from gonna question me. They gonna be like, you
Speaker 1: know what, that's true because I would have shot them
Speaker 1: niggas too.
Speaker 3: Yep. That's how we really. That's what hip hop is.
Speaker 3: It ain't really about. And I got it too. I
Speaker 3: remember when you did that. I was like, yeah, okay,
Speaker 3: I can't even manage it. It's real.
Speaker 1: And if any nigga from any California ghetto, I would
Speaker 1: like to believe across the country, I would like to
Speaker 1: believe across the why don't they. You could jump a
Speaker 1: nigga from a ghetto Germany and it's gonna be cool.
Speaker 1: You get busted on the get stabbed out there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: for sure, they gonna cut you off, cut you. I
Speaker 1: see the video to it that was poking a nigga
Speaker 1: in the back of a cab like a gents casual,
Speaker 1: poking his ass up, and.
Speaker 3: He was about them like, oh my god, they dry
Speaker 3: the course.
Speaker 1: I think it's a it's a real deep conversation about that.
Speaker 1: And and I used to feel like women were getting
Speaker 1: over But I do think they playing themself cheap. I
Speaker 1: think I think even for the check is not worth it,
Speaker 1: like you think it real short term, like the decisions
Speaker 1: you can make can have long term ramifications.
Speaker 6: We with all this play those thlos che because they't
Speaker 6: understand value. Okay, they don't understand as a concept, like
Speaker 6: with anything.
Speaker 1: Break down, break down why they don't understand value. I
Speaker 1: know what you're saying.
Speaker 6: You can't break down why they don't understand it. I
Speaker 6: just know that that they don't.
Speaker 5: I mean, like, looking for example, how many girls we're
Speaker 5: going like, we're all adults here.
Speaker 6: We know what we see when we see it. You
Speaker 6: go on to some girl social media.
Speaker 5: All she's doing is taking pictures in front of what
Speaker 5: she perceives to be valuable things. They're cheap things in
Speaker 5: the greater scheme, a weekend trip, a handbag, some headrest
Speaker 5: behind your fucking head, and the card that you're not
Speaker 5: buying is cheap shit. But they're mortgaging their whole reputation
Speaker 5: and what they're proceiving is all they're saying is like
Speaker 5: I'm a hall with price tech. It's all the same,
Speaker 5: the bigger extra value being lust.
Speaker 1: Do you feel like the price is too low? Like
Speaker 1: if you was a woman and you were selling pussy,
Speaker 1: how much would you sell it? You?
Speaker 5: I'm saying women who I'm saying women who aren't professionally
Speaker 5: openly and like I, this is what I do for
Speaker 5: a living, you know, Like those women did whatever they
Speaker 5: can get for and it's different for different women. But
Speaker 5: women who aren't that, who want to try to start
Speaker 5: to manipulate this compensatory dating lifestyle into their normal square existence,
Speaker 5: are mortgaging their reputation, their big picture value over cheap
Speaker 5: ass crap to try to give themselves self esteem. Being
Speaker 5: propped up with the fact that I don't just get
Speaker 5: taken out by any old body. I could take it
Speaker 5: out for twelve hundred dollars. It's great, lady, Now, everybody
Speaker 5: know you cost twelve hundred dollars. But I don't know.
Speaker 1: Dudes is kind of sucking. Now I've seen this mean
Speaker 1: because it's the mean where like a lady laid on
Speaker 1: her back and it was a dude knocking her back,
Speaker 1: and it was a line of naked dudes in line
Speaker 1: and knock her back, and.
Speaker 3: It was one dude in a blue suit with flowers.
Speaker 6: That's pretty funny, but that's true.
Speaker 1: It was prolific.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So it's all of these naked guys in a row.
Speaker 1: One guy's at the front of the line. He kneeling
Speaker 1: the lady on the bed or on the table, whatever
Speaker 1: it was. And it's naked but naked guys a twenty
Speaker 1: in front of him. And then it's him with a
Speaker 1: blue suit on in some flowers.
Speaker 5: Well, it's like the housing market versus the stock market.
Speaker 5: It's the stock market's impersonal. All the shares are the same,
Speaker 5: the price is dynamic. Everybody's buying and trading the same
Speaker 5: anonymous shares, and the market goes up and a flow,
Speaker 5: so you can't.
Speaker 6: There's not one idiot that's gonna.
Speaker 5: Pay way more, way less because it's pinched down by senses.
Speaker 5: In the housing market, you can list your house for
Speaker 5: whatever it wants. If ninety nine people think it's not
Speaker 5: worth that, and one idiot wants to pay that much
Speaker 5: for it, guess what, you just got.
Speaker 3: That much for it.
Speaker 5: It's the same thing with the women. It only takes one,
Speaker 5: and and and the dating market in our generation, because
Speaker 5: of the way that women operate, has adopted itself to
Speaker 5: like either the lowest common denominator of man or the
Speaker 5: biggest common or the highest common denonyminator of sucker, because
Speaker 5: it only takes one fucking sucker to give you that
Speaker 5: much shit out of the ten that hits you up
Speaker 5: that one.
Speaker 3: So is women trimming? Is women tripping at that point?
Speaker 2: Then?
Speaker 3: Or are we tripping?
Speaker 5: They're short The women are short sighted, and and and
Speaker 5: and the marketplace has been polluted by a bunch of
Speaker 5: weak ass.
Speaker 6: Men simp set the price they're ones paid.
Speaker 1: So then women are not wrong if they can convince
Speaker 1: they're wrong.
Speaker 6: Because those bitches end up single, forty and ugly. Definitely,
Speaker 6: that's why they're wrong.
Speaker 3: Short sighted and they want to that.
Speaker 1: I'm a bad bitchly happy to take a car note
Speaker 1: over a house note, because they don't think a three
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty thousand dollars car in fifteen years it's
Speaker 1: worth less than a three hundred fifty thousand dollars house
Speaker 1: is gonna be worth in fifteen years.
Speaker 6: That's the problem with their brains. They don't understand value, this.
Speaker 3: Conception of value for sure? Or are we still are
Speaker 3: we placing old values.
Speaker 1: On modern things?
Speaker 6: No, because those are constant.
Speaker 1: It's constant, you think, so, you don't think a girl
Speaker 1: with ten bodies today would have a better chance of
Speaker 1: finding a husband and a girl with ten bodies in
Speaker 1: nineteen fifty four.
Speaker 6: Better than then? But what are we comparing it against.
Speaker 1: You're only here today twenty twenty four, where you could
Speaker 1: have ten bodies and it's not viewed nearly as crazy
Speaker 1: versus nineteen fifty four, were you'd have been satan herself.
Speaker 6: It's not.
Speaker 3: But the girl, oh, just a bill in nineteen fifty four.
Speaker 1: If you are ten bodies and people and men knew
Speaker 1: you had ten bodies, that's a problem.
Speaker 6: You gotta move out of town. You got in front
Speaker 6: of new town.
Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely, it were done. Pray at the town too.
Speaker 6: You know, I wonder if the Great Migration was started.
Speaker 3: By sluts, the Grave Migration was started by snuts.
Speaker 1: Oh man, we're gonna get canceled. I'm surprised it's been
Speaker 1: four seasons. That's because one of these, one of these
Speaker 1: seasons gonna happen, and they gonna go back and listen
Speaker 1: to these and they gonna show up in front of
Speaker 1: nigga's houses with a pitch for it and a burning crust.
Speaker 5: Up.
Speaker 1: Man, I don't know. I think he's winning. I mean,
Speaker 1: and and the shout out to the doctor lady that
Speaker 1: was that was I forgot her name. I don't know
Speaker 1: why I forgot her name, because I know who she is,
Speaker 1: but I'm drawing a blank. But she was saying that
Speaker 1: he was creating broken homes, and I'm like, you know,
Speaker 1: you really got to know that when you you know,
Speaker 1: in the genesis of you know, men and women pro creating.
Speaker 1: When you procreate, you were creating a home. But in
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four, those same rules just don't apply no more.
Speaker 2: Don't letting apply no more in.
Speaker 1: Four except niggas thinking that they supposed to be with
Speaker 1: their baby mama or police or pussy m that still applied,
Speaker 1: cause you niggas still be trying to police them pussies.
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, free the bitch man, yes, free her.
Speaker 1: Let her off her chain, let her go do her thing.
Speaker 1: You got her pregnant. Your baby mama may be out there.
Speaker 1: She may be out there.
Speaker 2: That's fine, but we don't got to accept the other person.
Speaker 3: Who is the other? Yes?
Speaker 1: You do, yo? I mean they're not your family, you're
Speaker 1: actually theoretically actually you might have to. No, you don't,
Speaker 1: especially like if they're together. He never her all the time,
Speaker 1: and now this is your kids step father.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you got married once, you got remarried though, that's like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, or what if somebody married her after you didn't
Speaker 1: marry her, but you got her pregnant, but then some
Speaker 1: dude stepped up and made an honest woman out of
Speaker 1: her when you made it her spoiled We spoiled her.
Speaker 3: I won't.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Russell Wilson, So what that made you call me Cam?
Speaker 5: Before you can call me Russell? Ain't got no future?
Speaker 1: So out of the situation, you would rather be Cam
Speaker 1: Newton instead of Russell Wilson around head high.
Speaker 3: I don't have.
Speaker 6: I don't have to worry about no future in my past.
Speaker 3: Yeah, get on the road. I could never I told.
Speaker 4: Listen, I said, let you go back out on the road.
Speaker 4: I'm turned into cam on that trip, Listen.
Speaker 1: I used to sell Sharon. I always knew I could
Speaker 1: go to jail, right. The problem is when you sell
Speaker 1: drugs and don't think to yourself, I can go to jail.
Speaker 1: So if I'm nutting in some woman, best believe I'm
Speaker 1: thinking of all the ship that can happen. Woman a
Speaker 1: mother for sure, even if she was a mother before,
Speaker 1: I'm already thinking like fucked up. I'm not even thinking.
Speaker 1: I don't even think about the wonders of it. I
Speaker 1: don't even think about how good ship can go. I'll
Speaker 1: be like, how bad can this go? That's how I
Speaker 1: size up every situation. How bad can this go? Daring
Speaker 1: ain't the worst thing. Living in hell is the worst
Speaker 1: thing for hell, now, No, no, no. Living in hell
Speaker 1: is like when your baby mama.
Speaker 3: Got all the niggas come to your house with your kid, did.
Speaker 2: Well, all times already passed.
Speaker 3: You know, I'm saying that's hell.
Speaker 1: When when she got just different people like oh, I
Speaker 1: was talking to tell you like Ted yea mama friend.
Speaker 1: I was talking to Brian, Brian mama friend. That probably
Speaker 1: got to be traumatizing for some man.
Speaker 3: I'll beg the motherfucker snapped. So I've seen it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it happens.
Speaker 3: It's all. Yeah, I just want to be young.
Speaker 4: So when we get on the road, I'm sure you're
Speaker 4: way too smart to be young.
Speaker 3: You gotta be stupid to be young.
Speaker 2: Again.
Speaker 1: Young, young and stupid pete go together like peanut butter
Speaker 1: and jealous. Young and smart don't go together.
Speaker 6: Got to that young, wild and free or something like that.
Speaker 1: Young stupid. It's dumb, you Ryan. Drugs and ship.
Speaker 2: They got new drugs, right, they're just trying the new drugs.
Speaker 3: The two twenty four. They got the pink looking stuff
Speaker 3: from all color pink cocaine.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, it's like pink cocaine, flavor cocaine.
Speaker 3: Who want to try flavor cocaine? Real speak, somebody who's
Speaker 3: a cultoisewer? Yeah, or like what rays saying and uh
Speaker 3: what they say?
Speaker 1: Them two thousands from two thousand snacks niggas trying them
Speaker 1: to twenty twenty four drugs them drugs. It's crazy, man,
Speaker 1: I don't know all I'm saying is I think you
Speaker 1: really got to realize when you knowed somebody, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, and they get pregnant, you just added
Speaker 1: two more people to your family. And if you start
Speaker 1: with that thought, you know what I'm saying, you would
Speaker 1: probably make better decisions because for sure, the state of California,
Speaker 1: where we all from, is gonna make sure you pay
Speaker 1: her like she's part of your family.
Speaker 3: Yeah, have your passport up today, you're gonna skip together
Speaker 3: the country.
Speaker 6: They'll call me.
Speaker 5: Came and Pete came in, Pete I came in, and
Speaker 5: then I came in, and then the Cayman Islands.
Speaker 4: Oh Man, Like I heard y'all said on the last one,
Speaker 4: he said, we agreed to disagree.
Speaker 1: You don't agree. Even with all his logic, at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, I'm still he't changed who I was. No,
Speaker 1: you could actually realize you're smarter now. You're like, you
Speaker 1: know what, I wouldn't have did that if I could
Speaker 1: do that again.
Speaker 3: But you did say you're gonna go home and tell
Speaker 3: your son this. No, I'm telling my son.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he getting all this because make sure he know. Like,
Speaker 1: when you impregnate a woman, bro, you're adding two people
Speaker 1: to your family.
Speaker 2: I'm going to make sure I cut some clips out
Speaker 2: of this.
Speaker 4: Just I'm gonna have him make the clips so I
Speaker 4: can sit have my son look at her and know
Speaker 4: when you impregnant the woman, she's with you for the
Speaker 4: rest of her.
Speaker 1: Life, forever. Every dumb ass thing right now, your kid
Speaker 1: is your your kid by your first baby mom grown right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she if she go to jail, it still matter.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, but see like her mama is my nigga.
Speaker 5: Like me and her.
Speaker 4: We look, if if my daughter was here right now,
Speaker 4: you would listening to her talk and you'd be like
Speaker 4: she was around when you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because she seen everything.
Speaker 1: So she a nigga.
Speaker 3: It worked out.
Speaker 4: No, I'm saying she a nigga. She fucked up all
Speaker 4: the rest of my kids. They say her my oldest daughter,
Speaker 4: she meet.
Speaker 1: You ruined her. Yeah, for sure, Well she is. Yeah,
Speaker 1: at least you got it right the third time, and
Speaker 1: of course raised the kid, so they raised the kid
Speaker 1: is hard. They might take five trumbout. A lot of
Speaker 1: people grandparents get it right with the next they sucked
Speaker 1: up with.
Speaker 3: They don't get much better.
Speaker 5: Job on.
Speaker 1: It's true, I got left with my grandmother that's what, because.
Speaker 3: Man, she love you to death. She's like I fucked
Speaker 3: up his parents join crying for real.
Speaker 1: I always thought that though my whole life bro so
Speaker 1: like cam and the like, I could never do it
Speaker 1: bro because I always thought to myself, like, damn, it's
Speaker 1: like having a wife that ain't my wife no more,
Speaker 1: but she's my wife because I'm be worried about who
Speaker 1: she fucking. I'm be worried about who around my kids.
Speaker 1: You know what, it ain't worried anyway. Up you be
Speaker 1: forty seven with no kids. But again, you know, stranger
Speaker 1: things have happened.
Speaker 3: Hey whatever, Hey, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I just.
Speaker 2: I pump all my friends up to have kids.
Speaker 3: Why he not old enough yet? But him? You for sure?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 3: He was telling me not to have nothing. No no,
Speaker 3: no kids, no dad.
Speaker 2: We had this argument in the studio of the day,
Speaker 2: like telling him not to have kids. You need to
Speaker 2: leave your last name? Why not.
Speaker 3: Reason that kids? Why not? If that sounds why not?
Speaker 3: It's crazy though? To have kids? Why not? Why I
Speaker 3: just have the man?
Speaker 1: When you have kids, you know, really being a parent,
Speaker 1: it almost seemed like your life goes into second place.
Speaker 3: For sure. That's another reason why because I know that
Speaker 3: if you're doing enough, if.
Speaker 1: You're being an effective hand. Yeah, yeah, no, I mean
Speaker 1: I do know, I do got these ship. The kids
Speaker 1: is a distance second and they like but I kind
Speaker 1: of look at them crazy, like you're not fucking with
Speaker 1: you kids.
Speaker 4: No, it'd probably be some ship that the mama was
Speaker 4: poisoned into them, and it fucks everything up.
Speaker 3: Boy, I was a bit you poisoned into first. There's
Speaker 3: no poison into first, I'm sure because boys fight for
Speaker 3: a woman. Boy, because because she probably gave you some pussy.
Speaker 1: Thanking, y'all was gonna be together, and you took the
Speaker 1: pussy thinking you just wanted some pussy. So that was
Speaker 1: the first miscommunication on hers, No, on both of y'all,
Speaker 1: because you knew what she wanted. Told her, I'm looking
Speaker 1: for a woman. You can't tell no woman. You know
Speaker 1: you can't talk to no woman. Don't try to make sense.
Speaker 1: I know you didn't think you tried to make sense.
Speaker 1: Let me tell you the truth. It makes Let me
Speaker 1: tell you the truth. How many times have you told
Speaker 1: them what it is and they do what it's not?
Speaker 6: It's she believe what they want to believe, and.
Speaker 1: Nothing know that women do not want to believe the truth.
Speaker 1: They weren't even raised to believe the truth. You're just
Speaker 1: gonna come along and think you're gonna tell them the truth.
Speaker 3: Think of what is wrong with you? They lie to theyself? Yeah,
Speaker 3: they lied to theyself.
Speaker 1: Honest with themselves about eyelashes.
Speaker 5: Women will put on another woman's hair from another country
Speaker 5: and call it their hair.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they didn't give them. Call them out on it.
Speaker 3: What do you do with it?
Speaker 1: You can't tell no woman. You cater to the fantasy. Yeah, girl,
Speaker 1: you the finest girl in the world. You the finest
Speaker 1: girl I saw today. Look good, fine, fine, I know
Speaker 1: that hair is yours.
Speaker 3: That's what they want and I respect it. Damn that's
Speaker 3: what that's what they want. You didn't tell the truth.
Speaker 1: You set out to glow. It's one of my friend
Speaker 1: rap words. She be like, I'm thick.
Speaker 3: I'd be like I was just lying to Like, look
Speaker 3: at you see you moving like the case girl, thick
Speaker 3: ass girl. They just say ship. You just go with it.
Speaker 6: Huh.
Speaker 1: You gotta get with the program when it comes to this. Now,
Speaker 1: you could tell me the truth. Don't tell them the truth.
Speaker 3: Live of that.
Speaker 2: That's my whole thing.
Speaker 3: That's why.
Speaker 4: I don't talk that much on stuff like this, because
Speaker 4: you know, I'm always gonna tell the truth Like this,
Speaker 4: people nowadays are just different. Like these days people peoplespect
Speaker 4: whoever you got some money, no matter if you're right
Speaker 4: or not. So if that's my you know what I mean,
Speaker 4: I can't talk the truth because niggas hang with rats,
Speaker 4: and so my my only thing is they about to
Speaker 4: hate this. But if it's cool to hang with niggas,
Speaker 4: that's then we might as well be able to hang
Speaker 4: with child listens too, I mean, listen.
Speaker 1: I don't think niggas want to hang with rats.
Speaker 6: Huh.
Speaker 1: I don't think niggas want. I will get you right now,
Speaker 1: you know who I'm saying. I don't think men want
Speaker 1: to hang with rats. You understand how for thousands of years, Yeah.
Speaker 3: I don't think you get out broke.
Speaker 1: People are oh okay maybe and in a time like
Speaker 1: when we was broke, yeah you your next door neighbors.
Speaker 1: But now everybody line. So you like, if you're on
Speaker 1: social media, you already think everybody rich. So imagine being
Speaker 1: broke today where everybody line. You hear these numbers, the
Speaker 1: rappers is line all this nigga works for a billion man.
Speaker 1: This nigga couldn't die, sell his soul nothing else.
Speaker 5: Up.
Speaker 3: Think about it, so you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Like, I like, I find a space to have compassion
Speaker 1: for society at that point, So I get it why
Speaker 1: they would end up hanging with a rat now out compassion.
Speaker 1: You got compassion, Yes I do.
Speaker 3: That don't mean that.
Speaker 1: That don't mean because I have compassion for society that
Speaker 1: I'm not honest, That's all.
Speaker 3: Yeah, But like I wouldn't.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't harass the nigga that hung with a rat
Speaker 1: no more. That's what's changed. I would just not hang
Speaker 1: with you, no.
Speaker 3: Yeah, would just get away from you. I wouldn't focused.
Speaker 1: It's different back in the day, I would have get
Speaker 1: on your ass. Did even hang with that rat assniggo
Speaker 1: suck ass? Like if a nigga do a song with Gunner,
Speaker 1: I won't even say nothing till no more, I won't.
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna say something to Gunner.
Speaker 2: Don't you that way?
Speaker 5: Don't what.
Speaker 2: Which one of them you made a song about?
Speaker 1: Gunner?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 1: I just want to But I'm saying I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: make sure about a nigga that got a song with
Speaker 1: Gunner no more.
Speaker 3: Oh okay, he gonna confront the rat, talk about the rat.
Speaker 1: If I'm gonna say something about one of these people
Speaker 1: in this situation, I'm gonna talk to the person that
Speaker 1: actually did we grew up different to or with that ship.
Speaker 2: I just don't.
Speaker 1: I mean, people don't have shame, bro, But but think
Speaker 1: about it, even when you look at somebody like Cam Newton, Bro,
Speaker 1: for him to be up there and have three baby
Speaker 1: mamas and eight kids and not married to none of
Speaker 1: these ladies that he don't even have no shame, that's crazy.
Speaker 1: What Okay, hold on to Nick because niggas my boy.
Speaker 1: But Nick tried to marry somebody.
Speaker 3: What's wrong?
Speaker 4: Would have multiple baby mamas everything, but nobody should has
Speaker 4: one kid.
Speaker 1: You should have eight kids with one woman. No, yes,
Speaker 1: said no, that's quite far from the origin. Nigga wouldn't
Speaker 1: need McDonald's Nigga just on every corner. Nigga would not
Speaker 1: bolts eat it.
Speaker 2: One of our great friends who's a good square dude.
Speaker 4: We won't say his name, but even he has two
Speaker 4: baby mamas.
Speaker 1: Yes, listen, if you married, if you bad actions, don't
Speaker 1: make them not bad actions.
Speaker 6: They're just pervasive bad actions.
Speaker 1: But it's the repetition that makes you a bad person. Like,
Speaker 1: if you rob a bank one time, you're not a
Speaker 1: bank robber. You just rob the bank. If you keep
Speaker 1: robbing banks, you're fucking bank you're a bank robber. So
Speaker 1: my thing is with like with cam like, yes, it's
Speaker 1: it's it is something wrong with it, right, it's very
Speaker 1: unnatural to some degree, right because you well and then
Speaker 1: again also because you're married. Talk to them women. You
Speaker 1: know legally you're not, but you are. These all your wives.
Speaker 1: As long as you understand that, that's what I would respect.
Speaker 1: If you know that all three of these women is
Speaker 1: his wives, and then he looking for a new wife,
Speaker 1: I respect it. But if he like calling him his
Speaker 1: baby mama's and all that, and you trying to run
Speaker 1: that program, I don't respect you.
Speaker 3: These all your these all yours.
Speaker 1: I know what there was, what those polygamist dells all together.
Speaker 1: Though it's a different story. He'd be he'd be the
Speaker 1: greatest player in the world.
Speaker 6: All the lives and all the kids in the same house.
Speaker 3: The king sut there, yes, right, you be present. That
Speaker 3: would be a family like so it would be a
Speaker 3: different Yeah, and all the kids under one roof.
Speaker 1: Yeah, look, I get the concept right, Like shout out
Speaker 1: to Nick Cannon, that's my brother.
Speaker 3: Good dude, always been down. But like Nick, like I
Speaker 3: get it.
Speaker 1: As a man, you are supposed to procreate, yes, you know,
Speaker 1: and in simpler times, obviously much long before social media
Speaker 1: and slavery and a thousand other things. In a much
Speaker 1: simpler time, when you would be with the woman and
Speaker 1: you would coming to a woman, you guys would be married.
Speaker 1: And it really is based off that simple signs.
Speaker 5: Right of it.
Speaker 3: That's the connection, right, So I get where we at
Speaker 3: years and years later.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. But I'm saying it's the
Speaker 1: reason why every dude who baby mama, they think they
Speaker 1: own their baby mama.
Speaker 3: I think they can tell them what to do, what they.
Speaker 1: Like that because some of that initial shit passed on
Speaker 1: to today's time, some of that initial ship pass as
Speaker 1: to today's time.
Speaker 3: That's why you feel so possessive over your kids. Mother.
Speaker 1: It's a territorial thing, you know. It's our animal instinct
Speaker 1: too as as human. You like, I pissed on that
Speaker 1: tree first, Yeah, that's my ship, So put that tree
Speaker 1: in your yard. But granted, though there is more women
Speaker 1: in the world than there is men. I'm not saying
Speaker 1: it just to be under seeing. I mean, there is
Speaker 1: out number of us.
Speaker 2: We're gonna have fun in the world.
Speaker 6: You know, But it's like fifty point five to forty
Speaker 6: nine five.
Speaker 3: It's not. It's a lot closer like but do the
Speaker 3: averages numbers? That number change a lot.
Speaker 6: One percentage afford players.
Speaker 1: Even asterisk though, right, that gotta be an asterisk certain reason,
Speaker 1: like a bubble ring.
Speaker 3: That's hello for I don't want that championship. Oh man,
Speaker 3: that's to cam is just uh we could afford it though,
Speaker 3: Yeah I'm not. I'm not you know that making anybody wrong.
Speaker 3: But he couldn't afford it, Okay, so you can't till
Speaker 3: you can't yeah, until you get I mean financially, but mentally.
Speaker 3: I don't know what kind of.
Speaker 6: Stress asking Twine Walker shown camp.
Speaker 5: Those guys made tens and tens of millions of dollars
Speaker 5: out over that ship.
Speaker 6: Yeah, oh that ship for real.
Speaker 5: And on a side note, Antoine Walker's daughter, I'll go
Speaker 5: broke over her tomorrow. If no one has seen that girl,
Speaker 5: I'll sign an eighteen year contract tomorrow.
Speaker 1: Bucket but would you sign a lifetime contract, ten year contract,
Speaker 1: eighteen with you. That's how dudes did like I do
Speaker 1: then eighteen ever contract. A woman gotta really be thanking
Speaker 1: like he'll get you pregnant, but he want to marry you.
Speaker 3: Yo, you gotta really think twice.
Speaker 2: Some of us don't believe in marriage.
Speaker 3: That's not true. If you believe in coming into a woman,
Speaker 3: you believe in marriage that doesn't even go together.
Speaker 1: That's exactly how back into day you got a woman pregnant,
Speaker 1: they make you married.
Speaker 2: Okay, all that, all the things they let you get
Speaker 2: away with. Now a nick can tell.
Speaker 1: So on the whole case, you gotta be okay with
Speaker 1: that because if you understand that you could just knock
Speaker 1: some woman up and don't have to care.
Speaker 3: You gotta understand why these niggas tell it.
Speaker 1: They don't want to be accountable. It's like mother is
Speaker 1: up and not being on them because accountable and.
Speaker 5: You're society allowed two weeks. Society has allowed it to
Speaker 5: be okay to off like, to outsource your cost to
Speaker 5: other people around you, just to offload costs exactly cost
Speaker 5: all my crime to the to other associates. I'm gonna
Speaker 5: outload cost to the rest of the community on raising
Speaker 5: my kid. I'm gonna outload offload costs on the fact
Speaker 5: that I got into a house I can't afford anymore.
Speaker 3: Like that's just how society has gone. It's called accountability.
Speaker 1: Like trauma. If you say you got trauma, you lose accountability.
Speaker 1: My traumatic response. Now, I don't have to be accountable.
Speaker 1: I got anxiety, I got depression.
Speaker 3: I don't have to just go to work today, country men,
Speaker 3: because I can't. How do you.
Speaker 1: Understand it on one side where you don't marry the
Speaker 1: person that you're impregnant, but you don't understand when somebody
Speaker 1: don't want to go to jail.
Speaker 2: Neither y'all want to get in the way we weren't raised.
Speaker 2: You break the law and you be caught, you go
Speaker 2: to jail. It just was normal.
Speaker 6: You busting nothing and you get caught.
Speaker 3: You're supposed to marry the woman that one I wouldn't
Speaker 3: get into him. But I'm not getting that didn't happen
Speaker 3: to me.
Speaker 1: Point Bro, I saying that I was outside in the
Speaker 1: point Bro, that wasn't something might pointed out.
Speaker 2: My mama was a single parent three kids, and.
Speaker 1: Listen, accountability is accountability right, that would drives everything in
Speaker 1: the streets is accountability. This is me and you talk,
Speaker 1: but on every level everything the people we don't respect
Speaker 1: is people that won't be accountable for what they do.
Speaker 1: So with snitching, it's not just some stupid ass rules
Speaker 1: like you as a whole because you didn't want to
Speaker 1: be accountable for what you did. Like, I wouldn't call
Speaker 1: snitching snitching if it's like some gang banker, even me,
Speaker 1: now other game bankers would. But if you saw an
Speaker 1: old lady you know, getting raped, and you went over
Speaker 1: there and beat the man up and the police come,
Speaker 1: he said, Man, this nigga was raping this old lady.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't call you a snitch for that. No, now
Speaker 1: get we because for real, in the streets you have
Speaker 1: to have a tight line because niggas will fuck it up.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 1: Me said you can't let niggas think. But then really
Speaker 1: the wiser minds think. But snitching is when you don't
Speaker 1: want to be accountable for a crime you did, so
Speaker 1: you relay information on somebody else's crime. Well it's the
Speaker 1: same like and MoMA, we didn't respect dad beat dads.
Speaker 3: I don't have no homies as there beat dads, not
Speaker 3: not my hobies. I know something.
Speaker 1: They bet dads, but they're not my homies.
Speaker 2: So you don't have no friends that had baby mamas
Speaker 2: that just did all the bullshit. Don't let you see
Speaker 2: the kid?
Speaker 1: Yes, and they have to fight and argue and a
Speaker 1: thousand other things.
Speaker 2: What is some people that just get to the point
Speaker 2: where like, fucker then bitch 'all see or when she
Speaker 2: ate it?
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's crazy.
Speaker 2: What else you're supposed to do? What do niggas go
Speaker 2: to court? I ain't going to court for that ship.
Speaker 3: Well that's the again accountability.
Speaker 1: Once you get somebody pregnant, you're supposed to assimilate into
Speaker 1: regular society because.
Speaker 3: Now you got to be a fire.
Speaker 1: You can come on, huh, it's not I get how
Speaker 1: we grew up right where parents didn't give a fuck
Speaker 1: about us and older people didn't give a fuck about us,
Speaker 1: so they was living their lives and throwing their shit
Speaker 1: away and didn't care. But in twenty twenty four, you
Speaker 1: gotta believe that we would think to ourselves like, you
Speaker 1: know what, I got a kid. Now I need to
Speaker 1: get my shit together.
Speaker 2: Oh no, now I'm better.
Speaker 3: No, not you, As we already done.
Speaker 1: I'm saying we would hope this generation would be like,
Speaker 1: you know what, I have no business doing the same
Speaker 1: thing I was doing before I had a kid, Like,
Speaker 1: they don't even have the same shit to fall back on.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna let you when you next time you come
Speaker 4: up to the city, I'm just gonna let you come around.
Speaker 2: And see all the kids running around with no dads.
Speaker 3: It's just them niggas is pieces of shit pos p os.
Speaker 1: You don't raise your kid.
Speaker 3: Twenty four.
Speaker 1: Okay, maybe in the seventies probably was a rolling stone.
Speaker 1: They don't even have songs like that. No more.
Speaker 3: You don't raise your kids.
Speaker 1: Why you don't raise your kids at this point, I
Speaker 1: don't know. It's like a generation thing too, because they
Speaker 1: was raised with no daddy, So I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: they didn't learn ittistically.
Speaker 6: The numbers skewed off like crazy in the sixties. The numbers.
Speaker 1: Now it's coming back to people raising their kids. So
Speaker 1: we can't be more harsh on the snitch than the dead.
Speaker 1: Be dad, what you can't.
Speaker 3: Listen.
Speaker 1: This is a rule that needs to be that yes, no, yes,
Speaker 1: So we're supposed to be a snitch or a nigga
Speaker 1: that's making a snitch.
Speaker 3: A snitch or a snitch maker, a nigga.
Speaker 1: That's gonna live his whole life mad at everybody because
Speaker 1: nobody was there to take care of me like fun everybody.
Speaker 3: Or yeah, a.
Speaker 5: Grown man's who grew up in a household without consequences.
Speaker 3: Because you know, single mind make kids snitch? Yeah they do.
Speaker 3: You know who aren't gonna make you snitch?
Speaker 2: Your daddy gonna beat your daddy.
Speaker 1: Gonna be like your punk as he is sitting there
Speaker 1: thron't embarrass his boat.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because I do know people when they're going to
Speaker 4: federal trial, they mama's and aunties, they can and made them.
Speaker 5: Up because they don't want to emotionally have to win
Speaker 5: without their kids.
Speaker 1: Also in unaccountability, yes, that's why when you snitch is
Speaker 1: some bitch ass ship.
Speaker 4: Okay, I give you that port, but I still ain't
Speaker 4: going to the port where niggas can tell and it's okay.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's okay, but I'm saying you should
Speaker 1: be just as a set at a dead beat dad.
Speaker 3: It's the accountability, the word that's the driving force of
Speaker 3: Listen Street.
Speaker 1: She is all jigging and masculinity.
Speaker 5: You know, it would be a funny video. Sure if
Speaker 5: you like you have like in theory that be videos.
Speaker 5: What out there snitch and then they spot them and
Speaker 5: they get jumped.
Speaker 3: Yeah, if the video you need to start.
Speaker 1: They needed some of these dead beat dad, these niggas
Speaker 1: that's sucking girls to start killing these niggas as I
Speaker 1: don't raise their kids.
Speaker 2: That's fine, okay, do that, but me not letting it right.
Speaker 1: So no, in street light between southern California and northern California,
Speaker 1: we need to escalate dead beat dad to the same
Speaker 1: level of snitching. That needs to be held on the
Speaker 1: same standard. Like if you're dead beat dad, niggahoudn't want
Speaker 1: to hang with you unless you got money like a snitch,
Speaker 1: because don't nobody hang with it.
Speaker 3: Broke all my You know what, thro all my people
Speaker 3: that aren't that I'm around that are they're good dad.
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. I mean, like the guys that
Speaker 3: are around me, they're good dad. I don't got no
Speaker 3: homeboys that's dead be dads.
Speaker 4: On a lot of the dudes that be outside and stuff,
Speaker 4: they are good dance. It's just the fucking mamas when
Speaker 4: they do all the bullshit. I'm not going to court.
Speaker 1: You got to do whatever you got to do to
Speaker 1: be a dad. I just like you gotta just like
Speaker 1: you gotta do what you gotta do to not be
Speaker 1: a snitch. You gotta do whatever you gotta do to
Speaker 1: be a dad that should be there. It's driven by
Speaker 1: the same lack of accountability.
Speaker 3: Because your child will know you fighting for that child,
Speaker 3: no matter how fucked up it.
Speaker 5: I mean, runner, girls gonna say outside the box, that's
Speaker 5: what it's supposed to look like.
Speaker 3: But since since you know you grew up with that ship,
Speaker 3: it's different for you.
Speaker 1: Now you try to make it anure and that's the problem. Well,
Speaker 1: guess what's happening now. Snitching is becoming anure.
Speaker 3: They they got it works now because now that ship
Speaker 3: goes to social media and they tripping on the yard.
Speaker 1: You still thugging on that. Niggas told me I was
Speaker 1: s thugging on that.
Speaker 2: Somebody just hold.
Speaker 1: But this is my point now where snitching it got
Speaker 1: so crazy. Niggas really feel like, nigga, I'm still around
Speaker 1: here like it used to be back in the day.
Speaker 1: Niggas gonna have to kill you to snitch. Bro, you
Speaker 1: had personal shame. Yes, yes, he used to be so shamy,
Speaker 1: Like I'm not cut like the rest of these niggas.
Speaker 1: No more, I'm gonna go off. Nigga, my name ain't
Speaker 1: John More. My name is John Adams, and I'm gonna
Speaker 1: work down here at this job. I'm gonna take care
Speaker 1: of my kids, and I'm street live now, Nigga, Still, nigga,
Speaker 1: you can't hack it. Here was your time again, when
Speaker 1: goes to accountability, you was the guy when it was
Speaker 1: time to make everybody else accountable. Oh when that niggas
Speaker 1: did that shit and you bust on, you held them accountable.
Speaker 1: Oh when that when the homie did that and you
Speaker 1: fired shit up, you was accountable. You held him accountable.
Speaker 1: But to hold yourself accountable is the most gangsterous shit
Speaker 1: you could do. That's what not snitching is about.
Speaker 3: See.
Speaker 1: I didn't really realize what type of crip I was
Speaker 1: gonna be till I went to jail.
Speaker 3: Before that, I didn't even think I would be a
Speaker 3: good crip.
Speaker 1: I used to be like, why would you niggas want
Speaker 1: me to be from the jeni even nigga, I get
Speaker 1: a's in school, Yeah, like I got my thirteen twenty
Speaker 1: s at nigga, What the fuck am I doing with y'all?
Speaker 1: You niggas dropped out in seventh grade? How do we
Speaker 1: exist in the same plane. It didn't hit me till
Speaker 1: I went to jail, when I was like, oh, I
Speaker 1: got it. Oh that same shit.
Speaker 3: I'll fight every nigga here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah. If I had the city, it wouldn't
Speaker 1: bother me. And the day I knew thugging was gonna
Speaker 1: be different is the day jail was long when I
Speaker 1: was there, and that one day felt like ten days.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, listen, I got when I had
Speaker 1: better shit to do than be in jail, it was
Speaker 1: it was coming to end. It was, well, you can't
Speaker 1: sell Sharon my outside on the streets every day no more.
Speaker 1: That's that's pretty much over shit. You gotta figure something else.
Speaker 7: Now.
Speaker 1: Everything I got, it gotta be worth going back. Then
Speaker 1: everything was worth going to jail for anything. Nigga said
Speaker 1: that fuck that THEI gota go to jail for fucking
Speaker 1: you over nigga fucking now it's like, you know, nigga
Speaker 1: to take my parking space, that a stayer brothers at
Speaker 1: the grocery store. I mean, the list got smaller like
Speaker 1: what what's worth hurting nigga over is very It's a
Speaker 1: small list.
Speaker 3: It's some still some ignorant shit in there, but it's
Speaker 3: a smaller list.
Speaker 1: Of ignorant shit it is.
Speaker 3: I know, yeah, you know what I mean, things that you.
Speaker 2: Would never let go before, but we ain't letting told.
Speaker 1: Oh, I'm not fucking with nogg you know. But I agree,
Speaker 1: I'm not fucking with no rats, but I'm not also
Speaker 1: fucked Back in the day, I would not talk to
Speaker 1: a nigga like see now, I'm not even tripping off
Speaker 1: no nigga if he talked to a rat that, I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna fuck with him, but I don't hate him
Speaker 1: and I'm not gonna bring it up in his face
Speaker 1: while you hanging with this nitch ass nigga. Like back
Speaker 1: in the day, pine glasses low out.
Speaker 3: Of my bitch ass niggas. It's like that all the
Speaker 3: way there. But that's dumb, like how somebody damns this
Speaker 3: but they not not might not be a snitch. They
Speaker 3: can't help them.
Speaker 1: Now, I'm not saying we should stand on. I'm just
Speaker 1: saying where my mind has evolved to at this point.
Speaker 3: I'm glad where my.
Speaker 1: Mind has evolved. Like, so, if you did a song,
Speaker 1: we're gonna I really don't care. I just think you
Speaker 1: broke and you just doing whatever it take to stay
Speaker 1: on because if you hang with a broke snitch like now,
Speaker 1: I might say.
Speaker 4: Though, because most of the niggas that hadn't been doing
Speaker 4: all the tell and they definitely they're getting some money.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's why niggas is damn trust me, in
Speaker 1: the back of their mind, they know that niggas a snitch.
Speaker 1: They thinking themself right now, that's snitching.
Speaker 3: Every time the nigga do something, they be waiting.
Speaker 1: You know, we all know it. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But at a certain place, bro, it just comes to
Speaker 1: it at a certain time. It just comes to the time, bro,
Speaker 1: where things have to evolve, And I really feel like
Speaker 1: we should escalate. Being a dead beat dad's.
Speaker 3: Probably as unaccountable as being a rat.
Speaker 2: Stop saying that it is okay, but we're gonna agree
Speaker 2: to disagree.
Speaker 1: You you don't think kid is the same as telling.
Speaker 4: Most dudes I know people if they don't raise their
Speaker 4: kid is because the mama not letting them be involved.
Speaker 5: Doing it right, Yes, you have a legal right or
Speaker 5: be really, if you really really being honest, how many
Speaker 5: women are gonna say, no, you're not coming over here
Speaker 5: taking the kids for a weekend, give me a few
Speaker 5: hundred dollars and shot and sending me a couple of compliments,
Speaker 5: and and and and shutting up so you can see
Speaker 5: your kids. No, it's because they want to be combative
Speaker 5: and they don't want to do whatever and that, so
Speaker 5: they pollute the pools so damn much that the bist
Speaker 5: don't want them around. But no woman is taking is
Speaker 5: not gonna say, oh, fuck your you know, five hundred
Speaker 5: dollars and weekend with on my own time to take.
Speaker 5: Women will take anything you hand to them under any circumstance.
Speaker 2: Ever.
Speaker 5: They live and die with their fucking hands out. They're
Speaker 5: not gonna turn a thing that women have never turned
Speaker 5: down anything in the history of you man.
Speaker 3: They're not gonna start now take that in something to them.
Speaker 1: But again, yes, some women, but again even in those situations,
Speaker 1: I can say from my experiences, it's because they usually
Speaker 1: want to be with the baby dad, and the baby
Speaker 1: dad was just trying to hit that thag and get
Speaker 1: it keep it moving.
Speaker 3: So you did it anyway, That's the norm.
Speaker 1: In my situations of gods that I know, they usually like,
Speaker 1: I want to be with you, you don't want to
Speaker 1: be with me. So now I'm playing game with the kids.
Speaker 1: And then a lot of people don't want to deal
Speaker 1: with not defending the accountability part. But you know, motherfuckers
Speaker 1: just don't want to do it, Like, yeah, all that
Speaker 1: court money, all it, but I'm just.
Speaker 2: Not doing it.
Speaker 1: But certain things have to be worth it, just like
Speaker 1: your reputation is worth it. Being a parent has to
Speaker 1: be worth it.
Speaker 5: Huh.
Speaker 3: That has to be worth it.
Speaker 4: And that's why I love me, because she made sure
Speaker 4: I'm always up on what my daughter doing. I get
Speaker 4: my pictures and everything. I'm my daughter old enough now
Speaker 4: where we're good.
Speaker 1: Thank god you had me me, Yes, but what if
Speaker 1: you had Diddy then? So I get it our time
Speaker 1: that was acceptable. But I'm saying the standard has to
Speaker 1: change now, Yes, right, we have to go into a
Speaker 1: standard because we're seeing it's making snitch, We're seeing it's
Speaker 1: making the worst type of.
Speaker 3: People in society, a lot of dysfunctionality. We're seeing it
Speaker 3: because they don't have a dad in their life. We're
Speaker 3: seeing it.
Speaker 1: We we both agree that most time your mom make
Speaker 1: you tell because she don't have no sense of accountability
Speaker 1: and she don't even know what to pass on to you.
Speaker 1: Like shout out told Olivia again, rest Or Soul, I
Speaker 1: shout out Olivia every fucking shout out to my mom
Speaker 1: because she was like, you bet not never. Oh, Nigga's like, Nigga,
Speaker 1: you better not never tell in life.
Speaker 3: I had told my mama whooped my ass like I
Speaker 3: never My mama told me she would just own me. Ye,
Speaker 3: my mom died in prison because she wouldn't tell. You
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So again the is different, that the cloth is different.
Speaker 1: But what I'm saying is that ain't normal. Most women
Speaker 1: want their babies and they like, I don't care about
Speaker 1: none of that shit. Them street people talking about tell
Speaker 1: on John come home. A dad would be like, no, yeah,
Speaker 1: I agree, Like like you ever seen that movie with
Speaker 1: the rock in it snitchey that Nigga's son would not
Speaker 1: tell because his dad. And the dad was like, well,
Speaker 1: I tell like a dad a fuck up. You know,
Speaker 1: a dad ain't gonna let you fuck up. Embarrasses all
Speaker 1: I'm holding up. They knock me down as whatever you
Speaker 1: do your thing. So again like we have to elevate.
Speaker 1: We have to elevate.
Speaker 3: Snitching.
Speaker 1: I mean, excuse me being a deadbe dad to where
Speaker 1: snitching is because it's that serious and there is access
Speaker 1: to more legal things today, it's not as hard as
Speaker 1: it used to be when we was going to Okay,
Speaker 1: like back in the day it was we was a
Speaker 1: little bit more ignorant. Niggas got smartphones, and back then
Speaker 1: it was more crucial.
Speaker 3: Like as you said it like like we grew up
Speaker 3: in it.
Speaker 1: In the era was like it's extremental, like like our
Speaker 1: mamas looked out like if we would have told, we
Speaker 1: would have been dead.
Speaker 3: Now it's like.
Speaker 1: They like yeah, like you know, it's like but I
Speaker 1: still I know everybody don't think it changed, but I
Speaker 1: still think it changed a lot though. I really feel
Speaker 1: like that, Like people seeing Gunna Win and they was like,
Speaker 1: oh well they it's like, no, that was that one time.
Speaker 3: Trust me.
Speaker 1: Even in Seville and don't like to snitch. They talked
Speaker 1: that I ain't in the streets bullshit. Ifitially is gonna
Speaker 1: click your little mind, use a bitch ass nigga.
Speaker 3: It always do.
Speaker 1: They told me the same thing about six. Now, oh
Speaker 1: she's not you know, nobody don't care, I said. Watch
Speaker 1: after this first two albums, that ship slowed down the niggas.
Speaker 1: Look now, the most civilian nigga, I was snitch ass.
Speaker 1: Don't nobody got the round if I'm still in office, staples, nigga,
Speaker 1: don't tell the boss on me, nigga. I'm saying so again,
Speaker 1: it's like like a nigga like gun. His first army
Speaker 1: had that big hit and it popped off and he
Speaker 1: was doing this and that. Look at the last out,
Speaker 1: watch his next out because eventually the bitch as ship
Speaker 1: is gonna be obvious.
Speaker 3: I'm like he was a sucker. Yeah, Loud's, luster's credibility,
Speaker 3: all of that ship is like, man, I ain't that.
Speaker 1: But everybody want to hang with successful and it's successful.
Speaker 1: Everybody want to hang with success when it's successful.
Speaker 3: But how does it look when it's not?
Speaker 1: When that motherfucker started to file. First thing, your kids
Speaker 1: to call you a snitch. If you tell your kids
Speaker 1: to call you an let you get mad, be like
Speaker 1: you know, you'd be like, oh, you need to do
Speaker 1: what the teacher tell you know, you.
Speaker 3: Need to not tell on your friends. Woman to do it?
Speaker 1: Woman, yo, you know to do that when your shi
Speaker 1: ass when you told Yeah, okay, so all I'm not
Speaker 1: saying I think we should lower anything. What I love
Speaker 1: about streets is I've been able to really center it
Speaker 1: an account of every last aspect, even the most primitive
Speaker 1: ways we solve problems, right, which is, you know, motherfuckers
Speaker 1: get the killing each other. Look, it's primitive. Just look
Speaker 1: at the gangs in New York. White people was doing
Speaker 1: it too.
Speaker 3: Everybody.
Speaker 1: You go to East La, go to Cambodia Town. You
Speaker 1: just take some money away and resources away, and niggas
Speaker 1: is gonna get hell of cave man over some simple problems,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So I respect it that
Speaker 1: it's that's a human thing. But what I'm saying is
Speaker 1: we have to elevate more things into that space because
Speaker 1: there are more things that that are suffering from accountability
Speaker 1: at a high level that we don't We don't ostracize
Speaker 1: as a street urban community enough. Yeah, because the accountability
Speaker 1: we're not doing it. It'll breeds more ignorance and more
Speaker 1: dumb Get more snitches, Yeah, way more. You get more
Speaker 1: fucking snitches because you don't raise your fucking kids. Raise
Speaker 1: your fucking kids. Please stop telling it Okay, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: give you that now since you put it in that.
Speaker 3: You know, Mom's for.
Speaker 1: Sure having niggas telling and there's a critical man.
Speaker 3: The first day to poll. You want to.
Speaker 1: Tell them people what you know, baby, tell them everything
Speaker 1: you know. Don't lie to them people. So again you know,
Speaker 1: I mean, you gotta you gotta, you know. And and
Speaker 1: it's hard, like in a situation like Cam for him
Speaker 1: to truly be a great pain. Think you be a
Speaker 1: financially responsible parent. I think that's the kind of the
Speaker 1: criticism to Nick or Cam is that how do you
Speaker 1: make this all work consistently? And that's the point of
Speaker 1: family that breathes the consistency of being in the kids life.
Speaker 1: That that's a whole other conversation that should have been
Speaker 1: this conversation, But we got close enough. They're looking out
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Speaker 3: Yeah,