1 00:00:00,960 --> 00:00:04,840 Speaker 1: Hey, guys, welcome to I've never said this before with me, 2 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:08,760 Speaker 1: Tommy di Dario. I have chatted with many folks from 3 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:10,920 Speaker 1: nine one one, which I think many would agree is 4 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 1: one of the best shows in all of television. It 5 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 1: is so good that a spinoff called nine one one 6 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 1: Nashville was created, and to celebrate the very recent news 7 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 1: of a season two pickup, I have the captain joining me, 8 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:26,479 Speaker 1: the very talented mister Chris O'Donnell. It has been so 9 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 1: much fun seeing the nine one one universe expand into Nashville, 10 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:32,640 Speaker 1: and Chris is leading a team through all sorts of 11 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:35,600 Speaker 1: wild emergencies that you come to look for when you 12 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:38,159 Speaker 1: watch nine one one, right, So today we're diving into 13 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 1: that world, but we're also celebrating the incredible career that 14 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 1: Chris has had and for all my batman geeks out 15 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 1: there like me, there's so much great conversation about that 16 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 1: chapter of his life. 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We get we 35 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:44,400 Speaker 1: get more than three minutes on a carpet, so like 36 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 1: that'd be good. Yeah, absolutely, it should be good. Well, man, 37 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 1: you have so much going on. We're of course going 38 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 1: to dive into the world of nine one one Nashville, 39 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 1: which is killing it. It got renewed for season two. 40 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 1: Congratulations to you on that. 41 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 2: I'm excited to hear that. 42 00:01:56,440 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's it's well deserved, but you're somebody who 43 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 1: has had such a storied career. You've worked with it 44 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 1: feels like everyone in the business. You've been working since 45 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 1: your late teens. I want to say first movie. I 46 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 1: was an eighteen year eighteen man. So what even back 47 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:12,680 Speaker 1: then was something that you kind of picked up on 48 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 1: and thought, Okay, this is what I need to do 49 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:17,800 Speaker 1: to have longevity in this business because you're doing it 50 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:19,240 Speaker 1: and not a lot of people can say that. 51 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:22,639 Speaker 2: Well, to be honest with you, I was. I started 52 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 2: when I was fourteen doing commercials and like print work 53 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:29,680 Speaker 2: in Chicago and really hadn't done any acting, and I 54 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:31,959 Speaker 2: was kind of done with it. I was going to college. 55 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 2: I'm the youngster seven. I was just ready to get 56 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 2: to school. But I had an agent in Chicago and 57 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:41,359 Speaker 2: they Warner Brothers came to town looking for someone to 58 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 2: play Jessica lang Son and like co starring part in 59 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:47,679 Speaker 2: this movie Men Don't Leave, And through a number of 60 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:51,080 Speaker 2: auditions in Chicago, New York, LA, I ended up in 61 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 2: this part. And it was kind of serendipitous because I 62 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:56,520 Speaker 2: was on the wait list at Boston College and they 63 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 2: finally said, okay, we can take you, but you can't 64 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 2: start till January. And so it lined up per But 65 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 2: I went to school as a finance major. I wasn't 66 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 2: really thinking about I just I was being realistic. I'm like, 67 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 2: there's just no way. It's too hard of a business. 68 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 2: I'm not doing that. I said, I want to work 69 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 2: hard and be successful, and this is a business where 70 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 2: as hard as you work, it doesn't mean that you're 71 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 2: going to be successful. I mean, there are so many 72 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 2: talented people, especially here in New York, that are, you know, 73 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:26,080 Speaker 2: struggling to get by, and they're incredibly talented, but for 74 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 2: whatever reason, they just didn't get a break. And I said, 75 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:31,360 Speaker 2: I'm not doing that. And so it was really a 76 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:33,639 Speaker 2: few years after my first film. I had done it. 77 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 2: I've probably done about four movies. It was reading the 78 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 2: script for Son of a Woman that really made me think, Okay, 79 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 2: this is like the greatest script, greatest role I've ever seen. 80 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 2: I wasn't so sure if it was a fluke and 81 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 2: I had just gotten lucky. I said, if I can 82 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 2: get this part because everybody wanted it, then maybe I 83 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 2: was actually meant to do this. And so getting that 84 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 2: role was incredibly validating for me. And at that point 85 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 2: I thought, all right, you know, I might be doing 86 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 2: this for a while. And the success of that, and 87 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 2: then in the first Batman film, like my life changed 88 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 2: completely and it was like, all right, I guess, I 89 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 2: guess I'm gonna be doing this. But yeah, I mean, 90 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 2: it's been a long time and I've raised five kids 91 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 2: doing what I do, which is unusual. 92 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, for sure. You mentioned the Batman Batman forever. 93 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 1: I remember reading that everybody wanted that part, and I 94 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 1: think people like DiCaprio and Damon were being considered for it, 95 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:25,160 Speaker 1: and you beat out all these great acts. 96 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 2: I didn't beat out anybody. I mean the story that 97 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 2: there was, I mean, I'm sure they were cassid and 98 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:31,719 Speaker 2: doing all that. I literally had a meeting with Joel 99 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 2: Schumacher at his he was editing i think flat Liners 100 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 2: or something, and he said, let's take a walk and 101 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 2: he goes, so listen, we're gonna do this. Would you 102 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 2: be interested? I'm like, I mean maybe. 103 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 1: I was, Like. 104 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 2: I remember we were in college. I'll never forget we 105 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 2: had twelve guys living together, and like we're going as 106 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:50,600 Speaker 2: the Justice League and they're like, you're you're gonna be Robin. 107 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 2: I'm like, there's no way you couldn't. You couldn't pay 108 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 2: me to be Robin. It's not happening. And of course 109 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 2: you could pay me to be Robin. So I did it. 110 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 2: But there wasn't I never auditioned for it. He just 111 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 2: I was offered the part. And I remember the moment 112 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:06,360 Speaker 2: because that I knew that one was going to change 113 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:09,920 Speaker 2: my life. Forget that specific role, just the enormity of 114 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 2: the Batman franchise. And I remember sitting in the car 115 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 2: and my agent's on the phone, going, we need an answer, 116 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:18,920 Speaker 2: and it was like, all right, let's do it. And 117 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 2: it was I was just like, oh my god, what 118 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 2: have I just done? But it was an amazing experience. 119 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:25,720 Speaker 2: I was the hugest Batman Robin fan as a kid. 120 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 2: I had all the toys. I watched the TV show 121 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:30,920 Speaker 2: and you know, suddenly you're in this costume and driving 122 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 2: the batmobile. I mean it was ridiculous. 123 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:34,839 Speaker 1: But why that moment of hesitation sitting in that car. 124 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 2: Because I knew just it was a different path. I mean, 125 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 2: I had done some of a woman was kind of 126 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 2: doing different types of movies, and it's these big blockbuster 127 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 2: superhero movies. It's a different thing. I mean, you know, 128 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:48,279 Speaker 2: there's a lot of people who are like famous actors, 129 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:49,720 Speaker 2: like I would never do that. I would never get 130 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 2: on that path. And you know, it might prevent some things, 131 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 2: but it affords you a lot of opportunity. And the 132 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 2: international exposure was just at a level you can't imagine. 133 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:01,360 Speaker 2: I remember the first time I realized that we were 134 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:04,360 Speaker 2: doing a a press tour all over Asia and around 135 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 2: the world, and they gave me some days off and 136 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:08,800 Speaker 2: we were going to Indonesia for some you know, R 137 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 2: and R, and we landed at the airport in Jakarta. 138 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 2: I never even heard of Jakarta, and I was just 139 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 2: getting mopped at the airport. I said, Okay, things have 140 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 2: massively changed in my life. 141 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 1: Yeah. Now did you feel ready for it? Yeah? 142 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 2: I mean I'm pretty grounded in general. You know, I'm 143 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:29,160 Speaker 2: youngest of seven and I remember my dad, even on 144 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:31,720 Speaker 2: the first film, he was just adamant about don't buy 145 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:35,359 Speaker 2: into all these the adulation and good reviews because the 146 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 2: bad ones will be coming as well. And if you 147 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 2: embrace it and feel so good about great reviews, it's 148 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 2: going to destroy when you get bad ones. And I've 149 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:45,360 Speaker 2: just never paid attention to any of the stuff. And 150 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 2: I mean even today, I you know, I love going 151 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 2: on Instagram and TikTok and looking at, you know, photos 152 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:52,159 Speaker 2: of other people. But as far as myself, I've never 153 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 2: read any kind. I just don't. I don't do it. 154 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 2: I don't care. I'm not interested. And some people are 155 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:58,480 Speaker 2: just obsessed with it, and they looked through the comments 156 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:01,600 Speaker 2: and the whole thing. Yeah, it's it's a rabbit hole. 157 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:02,360 Speaker 2: I'm not going down. 158 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:04,159 Speaker 1: Well, what a time in your life? Man? And is 159 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:06,599 Speaker 1: it true that you took the helmet, Robin's helmet and 160 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 1: his circus outfit. 161 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 2: I've got the actual Robin costume. I've got the helmet, 162 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 2: I've got the leather jack, I've got the circle, I've 163 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 2: got a ton of stuff. Really got the pieces of 164 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 2: the Batmobile from when I crashed it. I mean, you know, hey, 165 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 2: i gotta have a fallback plan. I've got a batter ran, 166 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 2: I've got i got a whole bunch of stuff. 167 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 1: I'm surprised they so they'd let you take Robin's actual costume. 168 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 2: They did. 169 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 1: Wow. 170 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. I mean, I've been lugging the 171 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 2: stupid thing around. It's in a giant box. It's probably 172 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 2: dissolved at this point. I haven't. I haven't unscrewed the 173 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 2: box in legitimately twenty years. 174 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 1: None of your kids wanted to wear it for Halloween 175 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 1: or anything. 176 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 2: Oh, they would have loved to. I just you know, 177 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 2: it's it's it. I have. I have pinball machines. They 178 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 2: had so much merchandising, because it really is just a 179 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 2: big commercial. I mean, when you do the film, you're 180 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 2: doing it for not as much as you would normally 181 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 2: get paid, but you have a certain piece of the 182 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 2: you know, the the merchandising, and so you end up 183 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 2: making as much or more because of that. But they said, 184 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 2: you know, we're doing all this, and I said, you 185 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 2: know what, some damn and have a bunch of kids. 186 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 2: Just send me, send me everything, like you want everything, 187 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 2: I go, whatever you're making, just send it to me. 188 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 2: So I have. I had boxes and boxes of action figures, toys, 189 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 2: t shirts, a pit, real full sized pinball machine, everything, 190 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 2: and I would just keep it in the storage facility, 191 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 2: and over the years I would just kind of dish 192 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 2: it out over you know, Christmas to the kids and 193 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 2: that sort of thing. And there's still some remnants laying 194 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 2: around the basement. 195 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, well you must have had multiple Robin costumes right now. 196 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 2: I just got the first one because after I saw 197 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:33,079 Speaker 2: out the size of the box, I'm like, this is absurd. Yeah, 198 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 2: do with this. 199 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:36,719 Speaker 1: Ed Sheeran was on a podcast yesterday and said he 200 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:39,960 Speaker 1: just bought one of your Robin costumes. Well, so some 201 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 1: somehow he has one. 202 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:43,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, there could be Yeah, it could very well be. 203 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's hysterical. I also have to bring up I 204 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 1: was a huge fan of Batman and Robin. I love 205 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 1: the characters, which I love crazy like, He's one of 206 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 1: my dream Halloween costumes. I love the poison ivy, But 207 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 1: how would I pull off Ice? And I have no 208 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 1: idea how to pull that off? 209 00:08:56,760 --> 00:09:01,320 Speaker 2: But off either. You know, is never actually on camera 210 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 2: with Arnold, not once, I mean scenes together. Any of 211 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:07,319 Speaker 2: my scenes were with his. He had a he had 212 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 2: a double that was so good you couldn't tell it 213 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:12,200 Speaker 2: wasn't him. That's so fun Arnold only did close ups. 214 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 1: That was so funny. A lot of people talk about 215 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:17,320 Speaker 1: that movie. How was your perspective change on that movie? 216 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:19,680 Speaker 2: They just got Warner Brothers just got greedy on it. 217 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 2: I mean they they used to wait three years before 218 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:24,200 Speaker 2: they would do a sequel, and that was kind of 219 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 2: the pattern. And the first, the first one we did, 220 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 2: Batman Forever, was such a huge success that they said, 221 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 2: let's let's do another one. At the same time, The 222 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 2: Fugitive had just come out, and that movie was an 223 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 2: absolute disaster when they were making it, but they just 224 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 2: kept throwing money at it. They fixed it up, they 225 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 2: figured it out, and it was like one of the 226 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 2: greatest movies. I love the Fugitives. I think they just thought, 227 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:46,560 Speaker 2: you know, let's just go to production. We'll we'll wing it, 228 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 2: will figure it out, Kiva will write the script, Joel 229 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 2: figured out, and it just it was a mess, you know, 230 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 2: and it wich just was not It got very campy 231 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 2: and and and it's hard. I mean, I it's funny. 232 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 2: I I it is what it so I didn't stress 233 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 2: about it, but I remember when the reviews came out 234 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 2: and Joel was just devastated. We were in We're in 235 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 2: Buenos Aires doing press, and he was like he didn't 236 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 2: want to come out of his hotel room. And I'm saying, 237 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:13,440 Speaker 2: now you've got to do press, and you know that 238 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:15,599 Speaker 2: the reviews have come out, You've gotten word that it 239 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 2: was well received, and that's just painful having to sit 240 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 2: there and do promotion. But I don't know. And it's 241 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:23,720 Speaker 2: funny because a lot of young people see the movie 242 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:25,199 Speaker 2: and they come up and tell me how much they 243 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 2: like it, and I can't tell if they're screwing with 244 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 2: me or there's serious. 245 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:29,320 Speaker 1: No, no, no, people love it like it as a 246 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 1: whole following with the younger generations on social media. So 247 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 1: it's cool to see that even something at the time 248 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:35,960 Speaker 1: considered you know, oh, this isn't the best film of 249 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 1: the franchise now has such a life of its own. Yeah, 250 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:38,680 Speaker 1: it's fir, I. 251 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 2: Mean, and it's fun to see. You know how great 252 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 2: those Christopher Nolan movies were, you know, just the whole 253 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 2: that it can be all those different things if you 254 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 2: think about the TV show and the ones we did 255 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 2: and yeah, Michael Keaton ones, I mean, it's amazing the 256 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 2: life of the whole Batman story. 257 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 1: So to put a pin on the Batman portion of this, 258 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 1: how was your Robin different with Val Kilmer versus George 259 00:10:57,800 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 1: Clooney or was it pretty consistent? 260 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:03,160 Speaker 2: Uh, Honestly, I'd have to go go back and watch. 261 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 2: But you know, vow's just a more intense actor, serious guy. 262 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 2: You know, he was a handful just you know, just 263 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 2: being around. And the second one, I think, yeah, it 264 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 2: was just a little more campy. And George is George 265 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 2: is like the greatest guy. He's so easy going and 266 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 2: fun to be around. And I mean maybe we just 267 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 2: enjoyed it too much. Frankly, as far as it's just 268 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 2: screwing around and having fun with it, I don't know. 269 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:28,320 Speaker 1: Man, I think you're ready for either Marvel or DC 270 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 1: to give you a call and do something else. 271 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:30,960 Speaker 2: There we go. 272 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 1: I mean, anything can happen. 273 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:33,840 Speaker 2: There are a lot of middle age. 274 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 1: Absolutely, absolutely absolutely, anything's possible. Well, you are playing another 275 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 1: hero right now, nine one one Nashville. It's got such 276 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 1: an insane fandom around this franchise, right and here you 277 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 1: are joining the spin off show. I imagine that comes 278 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:52,320 Speaker 1: with some pressure. What excited you about that world? 279 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:58,720 Speaker 2: Well, honestly, when it came up, they said, Ryan Murphy's 280 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 2: going to do another nine to one one show in Nashville, 281 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 2: would you be interested? And I said yeah, I mean 282 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:06,839 Speaker 2: we just had the fires and the palisades and you know, 283 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:09,440 Speaker 2: a little change the location, change the scenery sounded like 284 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 2: a pretty good idea, and you know, Ryan has just 285 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 2: been prolific and so creative, and I was like, yeah, 286 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 2: I'm in. I honestly hadn't really seen the original show 287 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 2: or didn't know that much about it, and it was amazing. 288 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:24,200 Speaker 2: When I read the first couple of scripts, I'm like, wait, 289 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:27,560 Speaker 2: what happens? And I started going back watching the original show. 290 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 2: I'm like, wow, this is this is a different energy 291 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 2: than I was expecting. And that's just kind of the 292 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 2: brand of the show. The crazier the emergencies and more 293 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 2: ridiculous the situation, the more the fans love it. So 294 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:41,200 Speaker 2: you kind of have to get your head around that. 295 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 2: And I think it was funny for some of my fans, 296 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 2: and it certainly just the people in my personal world. 297 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:48,679 Speaker 2: They saw these promos, which because the network had such 298 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:50,679 Speaker 2: a good job promoting the show and it was this 299 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:52,840 Speaker 2: big action fire show, they're like wow, and then they 300 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 2: see it and they're like, wait, what just happened there? 301 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 2: You know, it's amazing. I get a kick out of 302 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:01,319 Speaker 2: every time the scripts come in, laugh and I call 303 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:03,080 Speaker 2: her the show around. I'm like, there's no way this 304 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:04,840 Speaker 2: one happened. He's like, no, no, this one actually happened. 305 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, what's been the wildest emergency for you? 306 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 2: Oh god? I mean, I mean it was one of 307 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:15,720 Speaker 2: the ones I wasn't on and I couldn't believe they 308 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:18,080 Speaker 2: actually filmed it. This girl, you know, is flying a 309 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 2: kite and gets pulled away this red kite. I'm like, 310 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 2: I mean, that should be the logo of our show. 311 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 2: It was just what are you talking about? But they 312 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:27,320 Speaker 2: got her down thankfully. I mean, we had a girl 313 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:31,440 Speaker 2: that was swallowed by a murphy bed. We had I mean, honestly, 314 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:33,080 Speaker 2: some of the stuff I can't even talk about because 315 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 2: it's so ridiculous. Yeah, but it's funny, I gotta tell you. Yeah, 316 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 2: there's one coming up this next week that if I 317 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 2: described the storyline, You're like, there's no way that's actually 318 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 2: a network TV. And it's yeah, No, it is. 319 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:49,199 Speaker 1: Well, we love to see it. It keeps people coming back 320 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:52,280 Speaker 1: from more. And it's also a very physically demanding show. 321 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 1: I imagine. I mean the gear you wear is Yeah, 322 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:56,560 Speaker 1: I was a fireman for a day at a charity event. 323 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 1: I mean that's heavy duties. 324 00:13:57,800 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 2: No, it is, and it and I can't I always 325 00:13:59,840 --> 00:14:01,599 Speaker 2: I always go back thinking of nine to eleven and 326 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 2: all these things where it just these guys, it's unbelievable. Yeah, 327 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:08,560 Speaker 2: and then the heat and to worldless equipment, and then 328 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 2: when there's the smoke and they're wearing the masks and 329 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 2: it's just unbelievable, unbelievable. You can see why they you know, 330 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 2: they start so young and they're done at a certain 331 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:18,080 Speaker 2: age because it just beats you up. 332 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 1: Have you ever been injured in the show from stunts 333 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:28,119 Speaker 1: or no? 334 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 2: Thankfully not going wood? 335 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 1: Yeah good, good, see superhero? Like I said earlier, you ready. 336 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 2: Superhero or just an experienced actor that lets the stuntman 337 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 2: do whatever necessary to. I have no ego when it 338 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 2: comes to that. 339 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, I mean it's a whole different world for you, 340 00:14:41,080 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 1: right like even even like you said, you never were 341 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 1: firefighter and even putting it on the outfit and all 342 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 1: of that for the show. It's it takes getting use 343 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 1: to fight. You get banged. 344 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 2: I mean, you can get banged up doing anything. I mean, 345 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 2: frankly on the last show and see how Los Angeles. 346 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 2: You know, but the thing went for fourteen years. By 347 00:14:57,000 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 2: the time we were finishing up, I was a lot older. 348 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 2: And you know, there's some of these chase sequences you know, 349 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 2: it was just it was a lot and these fight 350 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 2: sequences and all that, but it was part of the fun. 351 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 2: I mean, I've been getting paid to, you know, do 352 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 2: dress up and run around and play my whole career. 353 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 2: It's crazy. I can't believe this is actually what I 354 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 2: do for a living. 355 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 1: Did you ever get to connect with the O G 356 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 1: cast from nine one one and ye the crossover before 357 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 1: you did the show? Did you get to connect or. 358 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 2: We saw them at the upfronts for ABC and Disney 359 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 2: and that was about it. And I Angela Bassett, I 360 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 2: didn't connect with. I knew her from way back when 361 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:39,880 Speaker 2: a little bit, and that was actually part of it. 362 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 2: They were, you know, they're like, it's the nine one 363 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 2: spin off, you know, the one with you know, with 364 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 2: with Angela and Peter. I'm like, oh yeah, you know, 365 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 2: I love those guys. I'm like, that sounds great and 366 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 2: it's been great. It's just it was funny because it 367 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 2: was not what I expected, uh when I signed up. 368 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 2: And uh, but you know, Ryan Murphy tends to know 369 00:15:58,280 --> 00:16:00,240 Speaker 2: what he's doing here and what people respond to do 370 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:03,520 Speaker 2: And we just got picked up for season two, which 371 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 2: is great, and Nashville has turned out to be. I 372 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 2: love the city. I mean, I really it's fantastic and 373 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 2: it's just really nice people, really beautiful area that I'm 374 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 2: living in. And it's really close to my kids. I've 375 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 2: got four of my five kids are living on the 376 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:21,880 Speaker 2: East Coast, so oh cool, within striking distance if I 377 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 2: want to see them. 378 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 1: It's a big move from LA. It's a different time. Yeah. 379 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 2: And and Caroline and my youngster still are still in 380 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 2: LA because she's finishing up high school and I just 381 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 2: don't think it's fair to, you know, rip her out 382 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 2: of her last two years of high school for us. 383 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 2: And we see we move around so much that were 384 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 2: not really away from each other. 385 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 1: And you had a tour guide in Nashville and miss 386 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 1: Leanne rhymes, right, she showed you the ropes. 387 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:46,720 Speaker 2: Yeah that's she. Well she didn't she'd obviously she has 388 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:48,800 Speaker 2: history there, but she wasn't living there. She actually just 389 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 2: got a little place. But I've got I've had a 390 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 2: lot of tour guides. I mean it's it's I knew 391 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 2: more people there than I realized when I got there, 392 00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 2: and everyone reached out when you find out that you're coming, 393 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 2: and it's just a great city, great town. 394 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 1: Well, you're a loved man. That was for sure. I 395 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:07,960 Speaker 1: learned that very quickly. I have somebody who wanted to 396 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:09,639 Speaker 1: say something to you, and I told him that you 397 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:12,960 Speaker 1: were coming on the show. So I'm gonna this is 398 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:16,920 Speaker 1: your life, this is You're gonna play this hit, play 399 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:17,159 Speaker 1: on that. 400 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:24,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, Chris, you're gonna be with. 401 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:26,000 Speaker 1: My friends told me so. I wanted to send you 402 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 1: a quick message and say, but myself and Ryan who's 403 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:31,400 Speaker 1: in that trader back there at such an amazing time 404 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:33,440 Speaker 1: in Nashville with you so much fun. 405 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:35,880 Speaker 2: I wanted to congratulate you from the season. 406 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 1: Two of the show where you're very very happy for you, 407 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 1: and I hope we get chance to come. 408 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 2: Out there again, wishing you continue. 409 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 1: Success in a CEC. 410 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:46,920 Speaker 2: Love that he's I gotta tell you that those two 411 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:51,200 Speaker 2: were were such pros. I mean, first of all, I 412 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:56,240 Speaker 2: know the benefit of the crossover experience. Our show really benefited. 413 00:17:56,720 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 2: CIS C I S Los Angeles. It's not always and 414 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:02,720 Speaker 2: some people aren't always up for it. And those two 415 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:07,480 Speaker 2: came out and were great, no egos, no special demands, 416 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:10,960 Speaker 2: hard working, just fit right in. They were great, and 417 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:13,720 Speaker 2: it's you know, that's great for our show. Because there's 418 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:15,959 Speaker 2: a huge portion of their fans that hadn't seen our 419 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:18,040 Speaker 2: show yet, and so that that brings them over to 420 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 2: do a little sampler of our show and hopefully, you know, 421 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:22,720 Speaker 2: some of them hang around. 422 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 1: Do you think you'll do more with Oliver and Ryan. 423 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 2: I think we will. I think I'm sure we will 424 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:28,960 Speaker 2: return the favor and go back over to their show 425 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:33,720 Speaker 2: now that there was a connection made, and they also 426 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:37,119 Speaker 2: that that I knew their captain who had passed away, 427 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:40,080 Speaker 2: that there was a history. I don't know what the 428 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 2: storyline will be, but I'm sure they will. They will 429 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 2: take advantage of that. 430 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 1: When I told Oliver you were coming on, within literally 431 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 1: two minutes he sent that video, he was sory psyched. 432 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:48,960 Speaker 1: He was psyched. 433 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:51,760 Speaker 2: Now, those guys are great. You know, you don't know 434 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:53,800 Speaker 2: what to expect, and they just were complete pros and 435 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 2: it was really hard. They they had to come back 436 00:18:56,560 --> 00:18:58,480 Speaker 2: and finish this one action sequence and it's when the 437 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 2: ice storm hit and it was so cold in Nashville 438 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 2: you couldn't believe it. And the scene was written where 439 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 2: they're in a bar and there's emergency and they just 440 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 2: step outside to help. These guys. Was we were I 441 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:12,520 Speaker 2: was in full gear with you know, long under all 442 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:14,439 Speaker 2: this stuff, and I was freezing and these guys were 443 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:17,919 Speaker 2: out there in T shirts like it was. It was crazy. 444 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:20,439 Speaker 2: And they never complained working nights, having to fly right 445 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 2: back and do the other show. So we were all 446 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 2: very appreciative. 447 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:24,720 Speaker 1: So what do you want to see in a season two? 448 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:25,640 Speaker 1: Have you thought about it? 449 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:31,119 Speaker 2: Well, it was you know, shows like this, there's a 450 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:33,919 Speaker 2: lot to establish in the first season. I mean, I 451 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:36,399 Speaker 2: have a kid that nobody knew about at the baby Mama. 452 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:40,480 Speaker 2: You know, that's crazy sometimes, but you learn more about her. 453 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:43,920 Speaker 2: You know, there's just a lot to establish. And once 454 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 2: you establish this, you can start to explore all the 455 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 2: different characters and let the audience get invested in each 456 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:53,879 Speaker 2: of these characters, because that's really what's going to make 457 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:55,760 Speaker 2: a show work. If they fall in love with the characters, 458 00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:58,159 Speaker 2: they will go on whatever adventure you come up with 459 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 2: each week. So I I think it would be just 460 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:03,719 Speaker 2: going a little deeper on all of the other characters 461 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 2: as well, because a lot of the focus was on myself, 462 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:13,680 Speaker 2: my character and Jessica and LeeAnne and really fleshing that out. 463 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:18,680 Speaker 2: So we'll say and more of the insane, crazy, emergencies 464 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 2: Frank Ye. 465 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:21,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, if it's anything like the original show, you'll 466 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:24,479 Speaker 1: have a lot more seasons to come for sure. And yeah, 467 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:26,679 Speaker 1: and it's cool man him. So you've been working in 468 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:29,199 Speaker 1: this business forever. As we talked about, how is your 469 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 1: view on acting changed for you from being that eighteen 470 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 1: year old? 471 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:35,479 Speaker 2: Well, I was really green. I didn't know what I 472 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:38,359 Speaker 2: was doing and to the point where it made me 473 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:39,879 Speaker 2: feel like maybe I just got lucky. Do I know 474 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:43,240 Speaker 2: what I'm doing? And it was actually I went and 475 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:46,880 Speaker 2: did a play on Broadway with Scott Ellis as the director, 476 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 2: and I had never done a play in my life 477 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:53,359 Speaker 2: and we first we did it in the Williamstown Theater 478 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 2: Festival and it was an Arthur Miller play and Arthur 479 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:57,320 Speaker 2: Miller was there. Was incredible. We got to ask him 480 00:20:57,400 --> 00:21:02,680 Speaker 2: questions and Scott he said, we were just talking about 481 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:04,199 Speaker 2: acting stuff. He goes, you should read this book and 482 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 2: it was Udah Haggin's book. And I read it and 483 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:09,679 Speaker 2: I was like, Oh, that's what that's called. Oh I 484 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 2: do that, you know, And oh I do that too. 485 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:15,280 Speaker 2: I just was doing things naturally that you would have 486 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:16,639 Speaker 2: been taught if you had gone to acting school. I 487 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:18,240 Speaker 2: didn't go to acting school. I went to business school, 488 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 2: and so that made me feel a little more comfortable that, Okay, 489 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:24,440 Speaker 2: I guess I somehow naturally picked this up. You also 490 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 2: look back and you're like, I didn't go to acting school, 491 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:28,760 Speaker 2: but I worked with these incredible directors and these incredible 492 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:32,160 Speaker 2: actors all over the years, and the experience on Broadway. 493 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 2: We did a limited run at the Roundabout Theater and 494 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:38,240 Speaker 2: it was eighty shows and a very emotional play and 495 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 2: I'm on stage for two hours and you can't use 496 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:42,400 Speaker 2: your old tricks you did on a movie where you've 497 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:44,879 Speaker 2: got some emotional scene and you know whatever, you have 498 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 2: to really do the work and really prepare. And the 499 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 2: fruits of that, the benefits of that is it was 500 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:52,200 Speaker 2: incredible and eye opening to me that if you've put 501 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:56,720 Speaker 2: in the time and really done the work, you can 502 00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:58,880 Speaker 2: do anything. And it was, you know, it just made 503 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:01,359 Speaker 2: me like, okay, wow, like bring it on, because I 504 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:03,199 Speaker 2: remember when I was younger, there was definitely roles that 505 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:07,359 Speaker 2: I didn't do. I passed on for whatever reason I 506 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:09,359 Speaker 2: came up with. But I think part of them deep 507 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:10,679 Speaker 2: down was like I don't know if I can do that. 508 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:12,480 Speaker 2: I don't know if I can pull that roll off, 509 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 2: and so I was hesitant to do some of those things. 510 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 2: Now I'm like, bring it on, you know what I mean. 511 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 2: The difference is, you know, after sen of a Woman 512 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:22,200 Speaker 2: with Batman Films, I had to pick it the litter. 513 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:24,479 Speaker 2: You know, it was like everybody wanted me for everything, 514 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:27,359 Speaker 2: and you cut to thirty years later. I don't have 515 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:29,440 Speaker 2: to pick the litter, but I have a lot of opportunity. 516 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:32,880 Speaker 2: So you're just kind of wanting to find the best 517 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:35,959 Speaker 2: role as you can. But also for me, it was 518 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:39,239 Speaker 2: it was almost done. Luck with NCIS Los Angeles, I 519 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 2: just had one. You know, there's nothing precious about my decision. 520 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 2: I said, I want to show in LA. That's all 521 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:46,639 Speaker 2: I care about. I've got five kids in school. Just 522 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:50,399 Speaker 2: what is filming in LA? And NCIS Los Angeles was happening, 523 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 2: and I said, great, set up a meeting. I met 524 00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:54,880 Speaker 2: Shane Brannan. We hit it off and ended up doing 525 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:57,360 Speaker 2: fourteen years at the most critical time when I had 526 00:22:57,359 --> 00:22:59,400 Speaker 2: five kids in school and I got to be at home. 527 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 2: So it's just interesting how your career goes and the journey. 528 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 2: And when I was young, I had so much success 529 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 2: early that I got very precious with my decisions and 530 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:10,919 Speaker 2: everything had to be perfect. And I think I was 531 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:13,119 Speaker 2: just afraid to work almost because you're like, well, what 532 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:15,159 Speaker 2: if it doesn't work out? And the fact is you 533 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 2: got to just keep working. Not everything's going to work out, 534 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:20,960 Speaker 2: And if you keep working, you know, it's like investing, 535 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 2: you know, you invest in a bunch of stuff. A 536 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 2: lot of them are just going to bomb out and 537 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 2: you hopefully have a couple of great ones that cover 538 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:27,160 Speaker 2: up the rest. 539 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:30,440 Speaker 1: So and it's funny how your relationship with fear changes 540 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:32,280 Speaker 1: over the years. Right, we all go through it and 541 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:33,960 Speaker 1: we all have to figure it out. 542 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it's just growing up and a maturity thing. 543 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:38,920 Speaker 2: And now you talk about like, you know, Malcolm Glad 544 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:40,679 Speaker 2: while talking about ten thousand hours, My god, I've got 545 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 2: a lot more than ten thousand hours, you know, on 546 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:44,800 Speaker 2: the set. And you show up in Nashville to do 547 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:47,879 Speaker 2: this new show and you look around, You're like, not 548 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:49,960 Speaker 2: only am I one of the older guys here, I've 549 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 2: for sure got more experience than anybody here as far 550 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 2: as time on set and that sort of thing. Because 551 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:56,399 Speaker 2: I mean a lot of times, in my mind, I 552 00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:58,040 Speaker 2: still feel like I'm the kid from Sin of a Woman. 553 00:23:58,080 --> 00:23:59,920 Speaker 2: I'm this, you know, the young guy working with between. 554 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:02,159 Speaker 2: I'm older now than Pacino was when he made sent 555 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 2: up a woman. It's insane. 556 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, but you have a lot to be proud 557 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 1: of too, which is pretty cool. I agree. I agree, 558 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 1: I'm very grateful. Yeah, a lot of people can't say that. 559 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 1: Is there a role that you are forever proud you 560 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:16,160 Speaker 1: said yes to that? You're like, I would say yes 561 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:17,960 Speaker 1: to that time and time again. And is there a 562 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 1: role on the flip side where you did let that 563 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:22,400 Speaker 1: fear kind of subtle in and wouldn't even go out 564 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 1: for it or said no. 565 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 2: To There's plenty of role. I mean, I in hindsight, 566 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:29,119 Speaker 2: it's easy to go back and say I shouldn't have 567 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:32,000 Speaker 2: done that, But at the time, every decision I made 568 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:34,080 Speaker 2: was I thought it was the right decision. You just 569 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:36,720 Speaker 2: don't know. I mean, it doesn't matter who the cast is, 570 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 2: who the director is, you just don't know. Things don't 571 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:43,359 Speaker 2: always turn out the way and stuff that I should 572 00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:45,199 Speaker 2: have done what I was talking about, like, yeah, that 573 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:47,600 Speaker 2: I don't need to real hash that because then that 574 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 2: I'll those are turned into sound bites. I hear the 575 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 2: rest of my life. But there were definitely roles that 576 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:58,040 Speaker 2: that yeah, I mean they were I just wasn't sure 577 00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:00,239 Speaker 2: I could pull it off, and I probably had some 578 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:02,119 Speaker 2: other reason or you know something else. I was like, 579 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:04,200 Speaker 2: well I do that because maybe it would just seemed 580 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:07,840 Speaker 2: easier and stuff. But you know that's part of you know, 581 00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:09,560 Speaker 2: the good stuff comes when you put yourself in an 582 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:12,119 Speaker 2: uncomfortable situation. And that's something that I had to learn 583 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:15,920 Speaker 2: over time, and that when you put yourself out there 584 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:19,320 Speaker 2: and take risks, that's when you're at your best. And 585 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 2: you know, when you it makes you sweat a little 586 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:24,240 Speaker 2: bit and it makes you nervous. Otherwise there's just not 587 00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:25,400 Speaker 2: much much to it. 588 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean if I always say, if you don't 589 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:31,920 Speaker 1: have the butterflies, you're not maybe challenge like you once were. 590 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 1: You're not pushing yourself outside your comfort zone. 591 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:36,239 Speaker 2: And every role is not going to be like that, right, 592 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 2: But it's it's good once in a while to do 593 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 2: stuff and even not just roles, but you know, people 594 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 2: ask you to go do something or go speak and 595 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:44,879 Speaker 2: you're like, I don't know if I want to do that. 596 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:47,400 Speaker 2: It's like just do it. I mean, it's I always 597 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:49,639 Speaker 2: you know, kids when they your kids when they have 598 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:52,639 Speaker 2: to do their first you know, presentations and public speaking, 599 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:56,119 Speaker 2: and they're so nervous, and it's like it's good, It's okay. 600 00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:58,040 Speaker 2: It's good that you're nervous. Put yourself out there. And 601 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 2: you know, I mean as an actor, you're used to 602 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:03,120 Speaker 2: because you're always auditioning for things when you're starting out, 603 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:05,480 Speaker 2: and it's brutal. There's the worst experience in the world 604 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:07,679 Speaker 2: is auditioning for a part. I mean, it's just and 605 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:09,639 Speaker 2: now they're all they just send in tapes. But in 606 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 2: the old days, you'd walk in it's like, I don't 607 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 2: want to see anybody else sitting in that waiting room. 608 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:15,880 Speaker 2: I don't want to be near anybody. I don't want 609 00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:18,400 Speaker 2: to hear through the thin doors what other people are doing. 610 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:22,480 Speaker 2: It's a weird thing, but you know, it was competitive 611 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 2: and it was hard. And I always laughed when my 612 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 2: like my buddies in college. You know, there's that they 613 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:29,959 Speaker 2: got out of college and they've got to go interview 614 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:31,919 Speaker 2: for a job. It's like, that's not heart. You're just 615 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 2: talking about yourself. You've done the work. Like if you 616 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:36,600 Speaker 2: get the job, great, if you don't, you'll find one. 617 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:39,240 Speaker 2: We're going out and you're you know, playing parts that 618 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:42,320 Speaker 2: are so unusual or whatever. It isn't making yourself look 619 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:45,040 Speaker 2: like an ass, but that's just the nature of it. 620 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:47,400 Speaker 1: It's the name of the game. You develop a thick skin. 621 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:49,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's for sure. 622 00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:56,480 Speaker 1: As we begin to wrap up, I think you're gonna 623 00:26:56,480 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 1: appreciate this question based off our conversation, and we were 624 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 1: briefly talking about how strange it can be being on 625 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:05,840 Speaker 1: a red carpet and having two minutes to talk to someone, 626 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:08,360 Speaker 1: or being in a junket and talking to fifty outlets 627 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:10,720 Speaker 1: and having five minutes with each one. It's just, you know, it's, 628 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:14,399 Speaker 1: in my opinion, not always the most real kind of conversation. Right. 629 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:16,040 Speaker 1: That's why I like long form, That's why I like 630 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:18,520 Speaker 1: the show, and I appreciate my work doing those things, 631 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:22,040 Speaker 1: but this is where I'm my happiest. And I kind 632 00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 1: of had this feeling at some of those jobs that 633 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:26,720 Speaker 1: people would walk away feeling like, oh I didn't really 634 00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:29,240 Speaker 1: get to say anything I wanted to, or nothing of substance, 635 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:31,280 Speaker 1: or man, it's the same thing over and over. So 636 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:33,960 Speaker 1: I created I've never said this before, to give people 637 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:36,159 Speaker 1: a chance to come on and say something at the 638 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:38,240 Speaker 1: end that they've never really gotten the chance to say 639 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:41,159 Speaker 1: whatever it means to you, a lesson, a story, a 640 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:44,080 Speaker 1: funny thing, whatever, But I always throw it on you. 641 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:45,879 Speaker 1: So is there anything you can think of today that 642 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 1: you've never really had a chance to say in one 643 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:48,000 Speaker 1: of this? 644 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:50,680 Speaker 2: So, I mean, but I know exactly what you're saying, 645 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:53,439 Speaker 2: because what would happen in those interviews are and you 646 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:56,639 Speaker 2: really give up on the interview when you realize that 647 00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:59,000 Speaker 2: the person has just done a Wikipedia search on you. 648 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:02,119 Speaker 2: I mean, basically my whole life would boil down to 649 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:04,720 Speaker 2: about five stories that are on Wikipedia. At one point, 650 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:06,080 Speaker 2: they had that I went to law school, which I 651 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:08,720 Speaker 2: actually was hoping they'd leave, but they someone raised that finally. 652 00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:13,120 Speaker 2: But when when the interviewer has only done that and boy, 653 00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:16,199 Speaker 2: you did no homework here, that's that's just we're not 654 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:18,480 Speaker 2: going on and I'm not gonna give him anything. I'm 655 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:21,879 Speaker 2: just it's not gonna happen. It's a horrible form, and 656 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 2: I get it. I mean, it's the way that that 657 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:26,280 Speaker 2: late night talk shows work, and some of them, I 658 00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:28,680 Speaker 2: mean the good ones. I remember I loved it doing 659 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:32,040 Speaker 2: Conan O'Brien. I was on his second show ever. But 660 00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:34,080 Speaker 2: after that, I never did a pre interview for the 661 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:36,760 Speaker 2: show because I knew when we got out there we 662 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:38,920 Speaker 2: would have a normal conversation. We would not find things 663 00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 2: to talk about Jay Leno. You'd go on and Jay 664 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:42,560 Speaker 2: was the nicest guy in the world. But you'd go 665 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 2: on and they're like, the pre interview, that's hey, you 666 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:47,840 Speaker 2: know that that story you told And and then the 667 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:49,800 Speaker 2: ping pong ball you were playing ping pong, and and 668 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:52,000 Speaker 2: and then the ball hitching You made that noise. Make 669 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 2: sure you make that noise again. Because Jay's got something 670 00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:55,600 Speaker 2: he wants to do. I'm like, what, how am I 671 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:58,160 Speaker 2: gonna and so and and and if you've never been 672 00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:00,240 Speaker 2: on the show before, you think this this is an 673 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:02,800 Speaker 2: organic conversation. It's like, oh, Grassy from Chicago's great. You 674 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:05,560 Speaker 2: play a lot of ping pong in Chicago. You're like, what, Yeah, 675 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:07,280 Speaker 2: how am I making this too? It's like, yeah, Jay, 676 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:10,479 Speaker 2: it's funny this time we were playing, and you know, 677 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:12,120 Speaker 2: you make the noise, and then he does your whole thing, 678 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:15,040 Speaker 2: like I can't believe we're doing this, and people, you know, 679 00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:16,800 Speaker 2: are watching this on TV thinking that this is an 680 00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:20,120 Speaker 2: organic conversation. It was always painful for me so I do. 681 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:22,200 Speaker 2: I listened to a lot of podcasts, and I think 682 00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:24,400 Speaker 2: it's a great form. I mean I always, you know, 683 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:26,160 Speaker 2: listen to Howard Stern as well, and I just like 684 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:29,200 Speaker 2: the way he does long interviews. It's not a podcast, obviously, 685 00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:31,320 Speaker 2: but he does these long interviews and you can do 686 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:34,240 Speaker 2: a deep dive and you don't know where a conversation 687 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:37,200 Speaker 2: is going to go, and that's when you know great 688 00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:38,960 Speaker 2: things come up and great stories came up because you 689 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:41,120 Speaker 2: have a chance to elaborate on things. 690 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:44,280 Speaker 1: Yeah. I like that. So this as your first kind 691 00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:46,360 Speaker 1: of real podcast. How do you think it went? 692 00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:49,400 Speaker 2: I is great? Yeah, I get it. Yeah, I can 693 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:52,640 Speaker 2: see you just, you know, talk as long as you want. 694 00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:54,280 Speaker 2: If you need to cut it up, you can cut 695 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:54,560 Speaker 2: it up. 696 00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:56,280 Speaker 1: But I'll tell you what. We don't do a lot 697 00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:59,560 Speaker 1: of that because I I pride myself on carrying a 698 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:03,200 Speaker 1: conversation that can breathe, and I don't want to cut 699 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:04,840 Speaker 1: your answers. I want you to say what you want 700 00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:06,360 Speaker 1: to say, unless you say to me Jo Tommy, I 701 00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:09,640 Speaker 1: totally hated that. Take that out, sure, but I really 702 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:12,320 Speaker 1: like to put out what we talk about because I 703 00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:14,200 Speaker 1: think more and more we need real content. 704 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:16,680 Speaker 2: I totally agree with you. And like I said, it's 705 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:22,160 Speaker 2: even sometimes in magazine interviews, it's like they have the 706 00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:24,360 Speaker 2: set questions. I mean they used to do in the 707 00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:26,600 Speaker 2: old days. You do like a deep dive interview in 708 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:29,400 Speaker 2: movie Line magazine, and those were always funny too, Like 709 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:31,600 Speaker 2: they want to have lunch and he's like, all right, 710 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:33,880 Speaker 2: so if I went to your hotel room right now, 711 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:35,320 Speaker 2: what would I find. I'm like, all right, well, first 712 00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:36,680 Speaker 2: of all, you're not coming up to my hotel room. 713 00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:39,640 Speaker 2: We're going to sit here and finish lunch. But you know, 714 00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:42,560 Speaker 2: these were like long interviews and they did a lot 715 00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:45,440 Speaker 2: of work and they went interesting places. It's just that 716 00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:47,920 Speaker 2: you then spend the rest of your career with people 717 00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:51,520 Speaker 2: like certain little snippets come up and it's just painful. 718 00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:53,800 Speaker 2: I have, like they have a Barber Streisand story that 719 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:56,520 Speaker 2: is literally come up in every interview I've every time, 720 00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:58,880 Speaker 2: and it's a funny story, but it doesn't go away. 721 00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:01,800 Speaker 2: It's it's amazing it made it into a book, which 722 00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:03,960 Speaker 2: is funny. I had somebody who was like a super 723 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:05,920 Speaker 2: fan for Barbara Streich and he's like, you need to 724 00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:08,520 Speaker 2: call me immediately. Why did you never tell me the story, 725 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:12,920 Speaker 2: and I'm like, yeah, I just wasn't on the top 726 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:14,320 Speaker 2: of my my list. 727 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:15,560 Speaker 1: But that's what blows my mind. I don't want to 728 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:17,920 Speaker 1: talk about what everyone else has talked about, talk about 729 00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:19,200 Speaker 1: something fresh and different. 730 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:21,280 Speaker 2: I heard I was coming to do this. I was 731 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:23,000 Speaker 2: very excited. I said, I finally get to have a 732 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,880 Speaker 2: normal conversation. I'm a little confused by your your love 733 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:27,240 Speaker 2: of Batman and Robin, but that's okay. 734 00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:30,440 Speaker 1: I'm confused. Come on, little kids didn't want to be 735 00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:31,520 Speaker 1: a superhero? 736 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:34,800 Speaker 2: The first one? Yeah, the second one though, it's I honestly, 737 00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:36,640 Speaker 2: I do get that. All the time. People will be like, 738 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:39,480 Speaker 2: I gotta tell you, I like you, did you mean Batman? Forever? 739 00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:41,000 Speaker 2: They said, no, no Batman aronic, Like. 740 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:45,560 Speaker 1: Really, look is the story like perfect? 741 00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:45,760 Speaker 2: No? 742 00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:49,360 Speaker 1: But are the characters entertaining and fun? And I have 743 00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:52,239 Speaker 1: to go back and watch and poison Ivy come on? 744 00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:54,280 Speaker 2: Uma, Like I had a couple of lines there, had 745 00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:56,200 Speaker 2: I had a couple of lines ore the just we're 746 00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:58,520 Speaker 2: so painful to deliver at the moment, I can't even 747 00:31:58,640 --> 00:31:59,800 Speaker 2: believe I did. But that's okay. 748 00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:03,040 Speaker 1: But collectively, when you look at it, it was pretty iconic. 749 00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:05,640 Speaker 2: It was a fun press tour until the reviews came out. 750 00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:08,760 Speaker 2: We're traveling around with Arnold. He's this guy's a genius. 751 00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:11,760 Speaker 2: He he got he needed a paint job for his 752 00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:14,800 Speaker 2: golf stream is G four at the time, so he 753 00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:17,560 Speaker 2: agreed to let this is on the record. This fine. 754 00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:21,440 Speaker 2: He agreed to let them paint his golf stream with 755 00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:23,600 Speaker 2: the Batman and rob and the whole plane was painted 756 00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:26,440 Speaker 2: that kind of red black color with the logo. And 757 00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:28,920 Speaker 2: we were traveling around the world in this thing, you know, 758 00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:31,239 Speaker 2: doing publicity, and then when he came back, they had 759 00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:34,160 Speaker 2: to paint it fresh white, beautiful, and then of course 760 00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:37,120 Speaker 2: he sold the plane. Like he's unbelievable. Yeah, but he 761 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:40,280 Speaker 2: was amazing watching him because we'd go we went to 762 00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:42,720 Speaker 2: Vegas one time. We were doing like Show West or 763 00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:45,240 Speaker 2: one of those things, and he's like, you want to 764 00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:47,080 Speaker 2: hear my jokes and I'm like yeah, and he's got 765 00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:49,960 Speaker 2: his note cards and he kills it and then he 766 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,600 Speaker 2: gets up and delivers these things and I'm like, he's 767 00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:54,600 Speaker 2: not just funny. The guy puts the work in. I 768 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:57,640 Speaker 2: mean he is really smart, really sharp. You can see 769 00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:00,560 Speaker 2: why he was a politician. But he just he didn't 770 00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:03,440 Speaker 2: come unprepared, right right, I mean, and we were going 771 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:05,600 Speaker 2: to show us. I'll never forget his agent shut up late. 772 00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:07,640 Speaker 2: He just closed the door, you know, He's like he 773 00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:09,840 Speaker 2: left him, and the guy's on the on the runway. 774 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:11,960 Speaker 2: He's like, no, he's late, and we left him there. 775 00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:15,200 Speaker 1: He was shooting a movie here recently, and he was 776 00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:17,680 Speaker 1: working out in my gym. So I'd be on like 777 00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:19,280 Speaker 1: the chest press and I look next to me and 778 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:22,440 Speaker 1: there's Arnolds, you know, just working out, talking to the guys. Yeah, 779 00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:25,200 Speaker 1: working out harder than half the people in that gym. Yeah, 780 00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:28,320 Speaker 1: and he's just like this athlete mentality right. Amazing. 781 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:32,040 Speaker 2: The documentary is great. I mean it's incredible what you know, 782 00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:35,600 Speaker 2: his drive and his business sense and he's been so 783 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:36,920 Speaker 2: successful it too crazy. 784 00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:39,200 Speaker 1: Yeah all right, man, well I feel I feel good 785 00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:41,640 Speaker 1: about that. All this was great. I really appreciate you coming. 786 00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:43,800 Speaker 1: I've never said that, You've never said any of that before. 787 00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:46,720 Speaker 2: Let's take a pick, and I've never said this before. 788 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:51,520 Speaker 1: I've never said this before. 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