WEBVTT - Patrick K. O'Donnell - July 3rd, Hour 3 0:00:01.639 --> 0:00:04.120 Hi, It's Peter Schweizer. I'm here with Eric Eggers. We 0:00:04.160 --> 0:00:07.880 are filling in for Sean. We run the Government Accountability Institute. 0:00:07.880 --> 0:00:09.680 You can find out more about what we do at 0:00:09.720 --> 0:00:12.920 GAI dot News. You can also join the conversation one 0:00:12.920 --> 0:00:15.480 eight hundred nine four one seven three two six. That's 0:00:15.480 --> 0:00:18.080 one eight hundred nine four one Sean. At the bottom 0:00:18.120 --> 0:00:19.680 of the hour, we're going to be joined by an 0:00:19.800 --> 0:00:23.680 esteemed historian, Patrick O'Donnell, who is going to be talking 0:00:23.800 --> 0:00:27.560 about what we're going to be celebrating tomorrow, which is 0:00:27.600 --> 0:00:32.919 America's independence and the military history. He's really America's best 0:00:33.040 --> 0:00:36.200 combat historian. But before that, we have more breaking news 0:00:36.280 --> 0:00:39.159 as we watch events unfold in Washington and in the 0:00:39.159 --> 0:00:42.800 White House, the great soap opera which has become Will 0:00:42.920 --> 0:00:46.479 Joe Biden be or not be the presidential nominee for 0:00:46.520 --> 0:00:47.080 the Democrats. 0:00:47.159 --> 0:00:48.880 Yeah. By the way, this was not what we expected 0:00:48.920 --> 0:00:50.000 to be doing today, right. 0:00:50.080 --> 0:00:52.600 We knew we'd be guest hosting for Sean Henny, but 0:00:52.640 --> 0:00:54.760 we thought, man, it's going to be July third, It's 0:00:54.760 --> 0:00:57.040 the Wednesday. You know, you guys listening to us across 0:00:57.080 --> 0:00:58.600 the country, you're headed to wherever you're going to be 0:00:58.600 --> 0:01:01.360 celebrating the long holiday weekend. We thought we'd you know, 0:01:01.440 --> 0:01:04.520 celebrated this country and what we can be and what 0:01:04.600 --> 0:01:07.000 we have been before. And that's what Patrick O'Donnell will 0:01:07.040 --> 0:01:09.040 talk to us about. And then the debate happened like 0:01:09.080 --> 0:01:11.319 that was less than a week ago. And then even 0:01:11.560 --> 0:01:14.319 we're crazier than that was. Okay, Joe Biden had a 0:01:14.319 --> 0:01:16.520 really bad night. We recognized that the media has lied 0:01:16.560 --> 0:01:19.160 to us for the last several months, and nothing's a 0:01:19.240 --> 0:01:22.240 cheap fake. It's actually just really who he is, and 0:01:22.400 --> 0:01:24.200 you know, they've concealed it and covered it up. 0:01:24.520 --> 0:01:26.920 And then immediately the media. 0:01:26.760 --> 0:01:30.479 Just like ran and they totally flipped right all four 0:01:30.880 --> 0:01:32.560 calling this and the New York Times the next day 0:01:32.640 --> 0:01:33.520 said he's got to go. 0:01:33.600 --> 0:01:35.440 Yeah, and then the op ed board came out and said, no, no, 0:01:35.480 --> 0:01:36.640 we agree, this is bad. 0:01:36.760 --> 0:01:37.759 They shived him quick. 0:01:37.840 --> 0:01:38.680 They shived him quick. 0:01:38.720 --> 0:01:41.560 And now you're starting to see actual elected officials follow suits. 0:01:41.600 --> 0:01:45.280 So the breaking news just seconds ago a second member 0:01:46.000 --> 0:01:48.680 of the House Democrat parties calling for Joe Biden to 0:01:48.880 --> 0:01:52.000 drop out of the race. Lloyd Doggett, a Democrat from Texas, 0:01:52.040 --> 0:01:54.320 called for Joe Biden to drop out. A little while ago, 0:01:54.600 --> 0:01:59.640 a second House Democrat from Arizona, Raoul Grivalia, has joined 0:01:59.680 --> 0:02:02.360 other House Democrats, I mean joined just the one Lloyd 0:02:02.360 --> 0:02:04.800 Doggett and calling for Joe Biden to withdraw. In an 0:02:04.840 --> 0:02:06.600 interview with The New York Times, he said, quote, if 0:02:06.640 --> 0:02:08.520 he's the candidate, I'm going to support him, but I 0:02:08.520 --> 0:02:10.480 think that this is an opportunity to look elsewhere. What 0:02:10.560 --> 0:02:12.840 he really needs to do is shoulder the responsibility for 0:02:12.919 --> 0:02:14.919 keeping that seat, I meaning the White House, and part 0:02:14.960 --> 0:02:17.400 of that responsibility is to get out of this race. 0:02:17.800 --> 0:02:20.480 So again, let's not act this is a normal thing, 0:02:20.600 --> 0:02:22.960 that it's normal for other people to be calling for 0:02:23.000 --> 0:02:25.799 the president to stop running for reelection. Right, although it 0:02:25.800 --> 0:02:28.040 should be point out, as you pointed out, when Joe 0:02:28.080 --> 0:02:29.800 Biden ran for election the first time, he said he's 0:02:29.840 --> 0:02:30.880 only going to serve one term. 0:02:30.960 --> 0:02:32.799 Yeah, that's right. Here's the other thing we have to 0:02:32.840 --> 0:02:35.800 keep in mind. Everybody's saying Joe Biden is drawing a 0:02:35.919 --> 0:02:40.040 line in the sand. He's staying he's drawn lines in 0:02:40.080 --> 0:02:43.919 the sand before. He drew one to Vladimir Putin, who 0:02:43.960 --> 0:02:46.560 stepped over it. I mean, the point is, Joe can 0:02:46.600 --> 0:02:49.400 give a great line, and he can give a defiant statement, 0:02:49.440 --> 0:02:51.480 but he doesn't seem to have the oomph to kind 0:02:51.480 --> 0:02:53.840 of back it up. And I think that's what we 0:02:53.919 --> 0:02:56.600 have to understand, is is all the atmospherics. You can 0:02:56.639 --> 0:02:59.360 issue a great statement and a defiant statement. You can 0:02:59.360 --> 0:03:01.040 get it on a phone call as he did with 0:03:01.080 --> 0:03:04.120 Democrats today and say I'm staying. Nobody's going to push 0:03:04.120 --> 0:03:07.120 me out, But it doesn't really matter if everybody sees 0:03:07.160 --> 0:03:08.360 the Emperor has no clothes. 0:03:08.400 --> 0:03:10.400 He has said that he recognizes, and the New York 0:03:10.400 --> 0:03:12.480 Times has reported this also in a conversation with an 0:03:12.480 --> 0:03:14.880 Aid that he recognizes he has only days, I think 0:03:14.919 --> 0:03:18.080 to convince the American people that he's capable of staying. 0:03:18.320 --> 0:03:21.280 But as you've said to me and elsewhere, if he 0:03:21.400 --> 0:03:24.240 really wants to convince the American people that he is 0:03:24.480 --> 0:03:28.040 capable of staying and fighting and winning back their trust 0:03:28.080 --> 0:03:31.360 and support, then he should be having a conversation with 0:03:31.360 --> 0:03:34.480 the American people. Instead, he's doing the opposite, right, He's hiding. 0:03:34.520 --> 0:03:36.800 He's showing up as he did yesterday, reading for a 0:03:36.840 --> 0:03:38.920 few minutes off of a teleprompter, did it the day 0:03:39.000 --> 0:03:41.120 before that too. But where is he I guess he's 0:03:41.120 --> 0:03:43.440 going to give an interview with George Stephanopolis this weekend, 0:03:43.480 --> 0:03:45.600 but that's still not talking to the American people. 0:03:45.720 --> 0:03:47.360 Yeah, I mean, think of it in these terms. If 0:03:47.360 --> 0:03:50.520 an athlete tells you my knee is fine, and he 0:03:50.600 --> 0:03:53.280 keeps issuing statements that his knee is fine, and his 0:03:53.400 --> 0:03:57.600 agent says, no, his knee is great, and the team says, okay, 0:03:57.600 --> 0:03:59.120 can you go out and run out on the field. No, 0:03:59.160 --> 0:04:01.600 I'm not going to run on the field. My knees fine. 0:04:01.800 --> 0:04:03.680 Nobody's gonna believe him. And that's what I think is 0:04:03.680 --> 0:04:07.400 happening with the Democrats. Clearly, the momentum is moving against him, 0:04:08.240 --> 0:04:10.080 and I don't think it's gonna change. I think that 0:04:10.160 --> 0:04:13.000 he will be out of office, perhaps by the end 0:04:13.000 --> 0:04:17.400 of this weekend. No, yes, yes, I think it's possible. 0:04:17.400 --> 0:04:19.359 I think if they're gonna do this, they have to 0:04:19.400 --> 0:04:22.600 do it quickly. The longer it lingers, the longer there 0:04:22.680 --> 0:04:25.560 is this uncertainty, I should say that he's not going 0:04:25.600 --> 0:04:27.000 to be the candidate by the end of the week. 0:04:27.000 --> 0:04:28.440 I don't know that he's going to be out of office, 0:04:28.480 --> 0:04:30.560 but I think if they're gonna cut bait, they're gonna 0:04:30.600 --> 0:04:33.400 have to do it soon. The longer this linger, it 0:04:33.520 --> 0:04:37.159 shows indecisiveness on his part. Is also shows that his 0:04:37.240 --> 0:04:39.800 heir apparent, Kamala Harris, he doesn't have a lot of 0:04:39.800 --> 0:04:43.880 confidence in her right, He's nervous about handing the keys 0:04:43.920 --> 0:04:46.520 over to her as the Democratic Party nominee. So I 0:04:46.560 --> 0:04:49.080 think if you're gonna do this, Democrats, you gotta do 0:04:49.160 --> 0:04:49.640 it quickly. 0:04:49.680 --> 0:04:51.280 You don't think you can kind of hunker down with 0:04:51.400 --> 0:04:53.200 the fourth of July just gets the more time to 0:04:53.279 --> 0:04:56.080 lapse between the debate and then I hopefully, you know, 0:04:56.120 --> 0:04:58.640 Donald Trump has to announce his vice presidential candidate or 0:04:58.720 --> 0:05:01.600 other news breaks that sort of like people sort of 0:05:01.600 --> 0:05:03.279 all right, well he's our guy, kind of, you know. 0:05:03.320 --> 0:05:04.760 But I think this interview that is going to give 0:05:04.800 --> 0:05:06.800 a Georgefanopolis seems like it carries a lot of weight. 0:05:06.839 --> 0:05:09.920 Then it does, But again, I don't think it demonstrates 0:05:10.000 --> 0:05:12.640 anything other than he's prepared to sit down in a 0:05:12.920 --> 0:05:17.120 taped interview. And we have a history with George Stephanopolis. 0:05:17.800 --> 0:05:20.919 You know, when when we exposed what the Clinton Foundation 0:05:21.080 --> 0:05:24.440 was doing, he came aggressively after us never disclosed the 0:05:24.480 --> 0:05:27.760 fact which we discovered later and reported that he was 0:05:27.800 --> 0:05:30.680 actually a major Clinton Foundation donor. So I don't trust 0:05:30.760 --> 0:05:35.320 George Stephanopolis to actually play fair with this. It's going 0:05:35.400 --> 0:05:39.200 to be a taped, edited interview. The very fact that 0:05:39.200 --> 0:05:41.599 that's what he's doing, it's not live, and it's with 0:05:41.720 --> 0:05:44.600 probably the safest of the people he could interview with 0:05:44.640 --> 0:05:47.480 in the mainstream media is a further indication. To use 0:05:47.480 --> 0:05:50.400 the analogy, his knees not so good. He doesn't want 0:05:50.440 --> 0:05:53.080 to go out there and really show everybody what he's 0:05:53.120 --> 0:05:54.640 capable or not capable of doing. 0:05:54.680 --> 0:05:54.800 Well. 0:05:54.800 --> 0:05:57.799 If George Sephanopolis is friendly, then the number of allies 0:05:57.920 --> 0:06:01.400 Joe Biden have has in the media as rapidly diminishing, 0:06:01.800 --> 0:06:04.839 because I mean it's not just the editors of the 0:06:04.880 --> 0:06:06.520 New York Times and the columnists there. You said, the 0:06:06.560 --> 0:06:08.280 Boston Globes now call it for him to drop out 0:06:08.279 --> 0:06:10.880 of the race. And I think actually something that Nicole 0:06:10.920 --> 0:06:15.000 Wallace said on MSNBC yesterday maybe helps reveal why. And 0:06:15.040 --> 0:06:16.880 there's a lot of different aspects of this. There is 0:06:16.880 --> 0:06:19.080 the fact that we've been you know, the president is 0:06:19.200 --> 0:06:21.599 in this enfeebled state and the media has lied and 0:06:21.640 --> 0:06:24.080 covered it up. We talked earlier in the show about 0:06:24.279 --> 0:06:27.560 remember when the Special prosecutor her report came out, and 0:06:27.560 --> 0:06:29.239 he says, listen, you know, I don't want to charge 0:06:29.279 --> 0:06:32.080 this guy with a crime because he would just be 0:06:32.120 --> 0:06:36.080 a very sympathetic defendant. And then everyone's like, oh, that's ridiculous, 0:06:36.160 --> 0:06:38.000 you know, and they apologize. The New York Times rand 0:06:38.000 --> 0:06:39.960 a thing about I think we're thinking about memory the 0:06:39.960 --> 0:06:43.440 wrong way. I'm a neuroscience It's fine. We all forget, 0:06:44.600 --> 0:06:47.200 like that's a real thing that happened. Yeah, and so, 0:06:48.000 --> 0:06:51.720 but Nicole Wallace said that this, which I thought was 0:06:51.760 --> 0:06:53.960 just stunning on a number of things. But listen to 0:06:54.000 --> 0:06:57.040 what the conversations allegedly per Nicole Wallace, who by the way, 0:06:57.040 --> 0:06:58.839 was a former Republican and a former remember like the 0:06:58.839 --> 0:07:00.040 Bush White House, this is. 0:07:00.160 --> 0:07:01.640 What they're actually worried about. 0:07:02.160 --> 0:07:07.000 Look at it just doesn't know Yeah, exactly, Mark Elias. 0:07:07.760 --> 0:07:10.280 We should pull the curtain back on what's actually happening, 0:07:10.320 --> 0:07:15.040 shouldn't we. People are exploring options to live in other 0:07:15.120 --> 0:07:17.840 countries if they think they could be targeted for prosecution 0:07:17.920 --> 0:07:20.720 by Donald Trump, because targeting you, or targeting me, or 0:07:20.760 --> 0:07:23.760 targeting Andrew would be an official act based on today's decision. 0:07:25.880 --> 0:07:28.880 I tell you what if it was a store, Nicole 0:07:28.920 --> 0:07:32.080 Wallace would be the national spokesman for narcissists r us 0:07:32.520 --> 0:07:35.360 as if she thinks that that people are going to 0:07:35.400 --> 0:07:38.800 be targeting her because she's this major force in America 0:07:38.840 --> 0:07:42.440 that people there are only certain people that are being 0:07:42.640 --> 0:07:46.320 prosecuted in the country, I would argue for their political views, 0:07:46.480 --> 0:07:49.920 and it's not Liberal Democrats under Donald Trump. 0:07:50.040 --> 0:07:52.280 I mean that was in relation to the Supreme Court 0:07:52.320 --> 0:07:53.960 announcement that there is going to be some level of 0:07:54.000 --> 0:07:57.080 immunity for Donald Trump as official acts as president. But 0:07:57.200 --> 0:08:01.000 the fact that those I think that she annuinely believes that, 0:08:01.320 --> 0:08:03.840 and I think that members of the media probably genuinely 0:08:03.920 --> 0:08:08.840 do fear retribution from a Trump presidency because of I guess, 0:08:08.840 --> 0:08:13.440 whatever they've done towards him. But number one, that seems 0:08:13.920 --> 0:08:16.560 actually incredibly that narcissistic, and I think you have a 0:08:16.640 --> 0:08:18.440 very inflated since of yourself if you think that they're 0:08:18.480 --> 0:08:21.920 going to go after MSNBC reporters. Secondly, by the way, 0:08:22.000 --> 0:08:24.000 Donald Trump is the one that has not chosen to 0:08:24.040 --> 0:08:25.680 go after political opponents. 0:08:25.720 --> 0:08:25.880 Right. 0:08:25.920 --> 0:08:28.440 Remember that the crowds were chanting lock her up when 0:08:28.520 --> 0:08:31.080 Hillary Clinton was potentially guilty of some of the things 0:08:31.080 --> 0:08:33.160 that they never charged her for. But then what happened 0:08:33.160 --> 0:08:36.080 four years later, they actually did come after Donald Trump, 0:08:36.160 --> 0:08:38.360 and he's been indicted on a number of charges now. 0:08:38.920 --> 0:08:42.000 And oh, by the way, one of the prosecutors, Fanny 0:08:42.040 --> 0:08:44.800 Willison Atlanta, who's brought charges against him, was at the 0:08:44.840 --> 0:08:48.120 White House correspondence dinner on the red carpet, like she's 0:08:48.120 --> 0:08:51.600 a celebrity for doing what exactly, prosecuting the political opponent. 0:08:52.000 --> 0:08:55.280 So it just speaks to the hypocrisy of what these 0:08:55.360 --> 0:08:59.120 people are capable of. But I think it's to the 0:08:59.160 --> 0:09:03.400 media's point. Number one, they have actual Trump derangement syndrome. 0:09:03.520 --> 0:09:05.920 They think Donald Trump is this exsidential threat to democracy. 0:09:06.160 --> 0:09:08.200 But I think that clip reveals they actually think that 0:09:08.200 --> 0:09:10.000 he's a threat of their own personal freedoms. 0:09:10.120 --> 0:09:13.640 Yes, no, he does, and they do. And you're exactly right. 0:09:13.720 --> 0:09:16.360 And you know, this point that they are making, and 0:09:16.400 --> 0:09:18.640 that the Democrats keep pounding out that what the Supreme 0:09:18.720 --> 0:09:21.520 Court has said is now a president can do anything 0:09:22.720 --> 0:09:25.960 and they can't be prosecuted, is totally ridiculous. I mean, 0:09:26.000 --> 0:09:28.560 it's total scare mongering, and they know it. I mean, 0:09:28.679 --> 0:09:32.600 it's not an official act to kill a NBC News anchor, 0:09:32.880 --> 0:09:37.080 it's not that's criminal. The president has certain official acts 0:09:37.120 --> 0:09:40.360 and if they engage in those acts and things go awry, 0:09:40.920 --> 0:09:46.160 they can't be prosecuted. For example, President Barack Obama droned 0:09:46.280 --> 0:09:49.880 and killed American citizens in the Middle East. The point 0:09:49.960 --> 0:09:52.800 is he did that as an official act protecting the 0:09:52.880 --> 0:09:55.880 United States as commander in chief. The point is, you 0:09:56.000 --> 0:09:59.680 can't have a prosecutor in Texas or Alabama say I'm 0:09:59.679 --> 0:10:03.240 going to charge Barack Obama with murder because he killed 0:10:03.240 --> 0:10:07.480 this American and a drone strike. Similar situation with Joe Biden. 0:10:07.559 --> 0:10:10.360 Joe Biden engaged in a drone strike not too long ago, 0:10:10.960 --> 0:10:13.240 thought he was killing a terrorist leader. They ended up 0:10:13.320 --> 0:10:18.080 killing a family, including several young children. Tragic. Again, Joe 0:10:18.080 --> 0:10:21.120 Biden should not be criminally prosecuted for doing that. He 0:10:21.240 --> 0:10:25.520 was engaged in his official duties as president. Nobody believes, 0:10:25.679 --> 0:10:29.280 nobody recognizes the official duties of the president is to 0:10:29.360 --> 0:10:33.480 send a seal team and kill his political opponents. It's 0:10:33.679 --> 0:10:37.160 to me evidence of how so many people you can 0:10:37.240 --> 0:10:40.400 have a principled opposition to Donald Trump and absolutely but 0:10:40.440 --> 0:10:43.160 they've lost their minds. This is not a principled opposition. 0:10:43.240 --> 0:10:47.760 This is panic spreading panic, and this is mongering in 0:10:47.880 --> 0:10:50.080 fear that has no basis in reality. 0:10:50.120 --> 0:10:54.960 I'll tell you what it is. It's delicious. It is terrific. 0:10:55.600 --> 0:10:58.400 I mean seriously, right, I mean, because you're told all 0:10:58.440 --> 0:11:01.440 these things about how bad consider how bad Donald Trump is, 0:11:01.679 --> 0:11:05.640 and how it's so ridiculous to assume that Joe Biden 0:11:05.760 --> 0:11:09.079 is any of these cognitivity declined aspects that we've heard 0:11:09.120 --> 0:11:09.880 these drips and drabs. 0:11:09.880 --> 0:11:10.560 It's a cheap fake. 0:11:10.800 --> 0:11:12.280 And then for it to have the rug pulled out 0:11:12.280 --> 0:11:14.800 from underneath them and then to see them absolutely lose 0:11:14.840 --> 0:11:17.959 their mind. Is it's enjoyable on a level that's probably 0:11:17.960 --> 0:11:19.560 not appropriate to talk about on national radio. 0:11:19.720 --> 0:11:22.760 Yeah. No, I think you're right about that. And look, 0:11:22.800 --> 0:11:24.920 I would love to if I encountered any of these 0:11:24.960 --> 0:11:27.400 people at a cocktail party. And I don't really go 0:11:27.440 --> 0:11:29.760 to cocktail parties. It's not my thing. I'm happy where 0:11:29.760 --> 0:11:31.880 I am down in Florida. But if I did, I 0:11:31.920 --> 0:11:34.520 would love to extend a hand and say, I will 0:11:34.520 --> 0:11:38.600 bet you ten thousand dollars if Donald Trump is president, 0:11:39.000 --> 0:11:41.840 that you're not in a prison camp after year four? 0:11:42.280 --> 0:11:43.960 How many of them at least not because of Donald 0:11:43.960 --> 0:11:45.600 Trump exactly. 0:11:45.840 --> 0:11:47.760 But how many of them do you think would actually 0:11:48.440 --> 0:11:50.680 take that that. None of them would because they know 0:11:50.800 --> 0:11:53.360 it's garbage. They know it's not true, and that's what's 0:11:53.440 --> 0:11:56.400 so sad and disingenuous about it. The same way we 0:11:56.480 --> 0:11:58.960 played the clip earlier that Joe Scarborough went on his 0:11:59.080 --> 0:12:01.600 ramp that this is the best version of Joe Biden 0:12:01.760 --> 0:12:06.000 ever is totally disingenuous. They're doing the same thing here. 0:12:06.160 --> 0:12:07.480 No, it's ridiculous. 0:12:07.520 --> 0:12:10.040 You know that Norm MacDonald, the comedian, used to have 0:12:10.200 --> 0:12:11.760 a joke that he would say when they talk about 0:12:11.760 --> 0:12:14.600 Bill Cosby when he was facing all of his charges, 0:12:14.640 --> 0:12:15.920 some people say, I'll tell you what the worst part 0:12:15.920 --> 0:12:19.400 about Bill Cosby is, it's the hypocrisy, and Norm McDonalds like, 0:12:19.800 --> 0:12:22.520 I actually think it's the drugging and the assault. You know, 0:12:22.640 --> 0:12:25.760 it's not the hypocrisy. And I would say, yeah, the 0:12:25.840 --> 0:12:28.520 hypocrisy is bad and the media, But what's actually bad 0:12:28.600 --> 0:12:30.320 is the threat to national security in the fact that 0:12:30.360 --> 0:12:32.280 the president of the United States, that the commander in 0:12:32.320 --> 0:12:35.400 chief is this person, and we've been lied to at 0:12:35.400 --> 0:12:37.200 every stage about it. Yeah, it just speaks to a 0:12:37.200 --> 0:12:38.720 total lack of respect for the American people. 0:12:38.760 --> 0:12:40.640 Well, and I'll give you another example of something that 0:12:40.720 --> 0:12:42.760 Joe Biden lied about, and this is something that we've 0:12:42.800 --> 0:12:46.720 looked into it. During the debate, Joe Biden touted the 0:12:46.800 --> 0:12:52.319 fact that he had passed an act, the Packed Act, 0:12:52.480 --> 0:12:57.239 that was going to let veterans be reimbursed, be reimbursed 0:12:57.960 --> 0:13:00.360 from the government because the government lied to them when 0:13:00.400 --> 0:13:02.560 they were at Camp La June said the water was 0:13:02.559 --> 0:13:04.760 fine to drink, it was actually poisonous. And a lot 0:13:04.880 --> 0:13:08.880 of people that served our country and their family suffered immensely. 0:13:08.920 --> 0:13:11.560 They got cancer, they got all kinds of illnesses. And 0:13:11.640 --> 0:13:15.640 this Pack Act allowed for the first time Americans to 0:13:15.760 --> 0:13:18.719 file claims against the federal government. And Joe Biden has 0:13:18.800 --> 0:13:22.840 touted this repeatedly is a great victory for veterans. Well, 0:13:22.880 --> 0:13:25.199 we looked into this at the Government Accountability in so 0:13:25.520 --> 0:13:28.240 you can find the report at GAI dot News. And 0:13:28.320 --> 0:13:31.120 guess what the big winners in this are not the 0:13:31.240 --> 0:13:34.319 veterans who suffered. They actually got victimized. The second time. 0:13:34.840 --> 0:13:40.200 This Act actually stripped from the legislation any caps on 0:13:40.400 --> 0:13:44.679 legal fees for trial attorneys. Originally, the bill was going 0:13:44.760 --> 0:13:47.520 to say you could only get twenty five percent. That's 0:13:47.559 --> 0:13:49.520 all you could charge for legal fees. That was stripped 0:13:49.520 --> 0:13:52.360 out by Nancy Pelosi in the House. Some Republicans in 0:13:52.400 --> 0:13:54.840 the Senate got in on it as well, their buddies 0:13:54.880 --> 0:13:57.280 with the trial attorneys. And now you have Joe Biden 0:13:57.360 --> 0:14:00.359 signing the bill. And guess what. Our Department of Justice, 0:14:00.600 --> 0:14:04.640 with Merrick Garland, has done nothing to deal with this issue. 0:14:04.679 --> 0:14:08.240 It's an absolute tragedy and another lie by Joe Biden. 0:14:08.800 --> 0:14:10.760 It's among the things that we continue to try to 0:14:10.760 --> 0:14:13.000 focus on at the Government Accountability Institute and the Drill 0:14:13.080 --> 0:14:16.199 One Podcast. He's Peter Schweizer, I'm Marik Eggers. We're happy 0:14:16.240 --> 0:14:18.520 to talk to you. Take your calls. Next eight hundred 0:14:18.600 --> 0:14:20.640 nine for one seven three two six. We're filling in 0:14:20.640 --> 0:14:23.080 for Sean Handy show back after this. 0:14:23.080 --> 0:14:25.320 This is Peter Schweitzer. I'm here with Eric Eggers. We 0:14:25.360 --> 0:14:28.000 are from the Government Accountability Institute. We are filling in 0:14:28.040 --> 0:14:33.760 for Sean. Let's go to Christy in Many Minneapolis. Christie, 0:14:33.800 --> 0:14:35.360 are you there, Yes? 0:14:35.400 --> 0:14:36.560 I am. Can you hear me? 0:14:37.000 --> 0:14:37.240 Yes? 0:14:37.840 --> 0:14:40.440 Go ahead, I'm going to talk fast. Thank you for 0:14:40.480 --> 0:14:42.120 taking my call. I'm going to talk fast. Hang up 0:14:42.160 --> 0:14:45.920 and listen. Okay, if Biden's sharp, strong, and resolute, then 0:14:45.920 --> 0:14:49.320 he must be prosecuted for the mishandling of classified documents. 0:14:49.600 --> 0:14:51.720 We need to keep calling out the double standard and 0:14:51.760 --> 0:14:54.040 tell them they can't have it both ways. And in 0:14:54.080 --> 0:14:58.200 regards to the second debate, Trump needs to not let 0:14:59.120 --> 0:15:01.680 Joe Biden weasel out of it, and when he gets 0:15:01.880 --> 0:15:04.680 on stage with him, stay on points, not repeat himself, 0:15:05.000 --> 0:15:07.600 call out the hypocrisy, and ask Biden questions we all 0:15:07.640 --> 0:15:10.440 know the answer to, so Biden's lies will be clear. 0:15:11.560 --> 0:15:13.280 That's an excellent point, Christy, thank you very much. 0:15:13.280 --> 0:15:15.760 It's ironic that Joe Biden's get out of jail free 0:15:15.760 --> 0:15:18.360 card might actually be his political end of the career card. 0:15:18.680 --> 0:15:20.720 This is kind of what happened to Hunter Biden. Remember 0:15:20.880 --> 0:15:22.760 on the whole drug thing. He used the drugs as 0:15:22.800 --> 0:15:26.040 an excuse for a lot of his misbehavior and ended 0:15:26.120 --> 0:15:28.520 up hurting him on this gun application case. 0:15:28.560 --> 0:15:31.000 It's just another example of the Biden hypocrisy. It's one 0:15:31.000 --> 0:15:33.080 of the stains on this country. But when we come back, 0:15:33.120 --> 0:15:34.840 we're going to be reminded as we approach this fourth 0:15:34.880 --> 0:15:37.160 of July weekend of the things that have continued to 0:15:37.160 --> 0:15:39.720 make this country great he's Peter Schweiser, Americ Eggers, thank 0:15:39.760 --> 0:15:41.840 you for spending the last day before the fourth of 0:15:41.880 --> 0:15:43.320 July with us on the Sean Handy Show. 0:15:44.440 --> 0:15:47.320 Actually it's not Sean Hannity. It's Peter Schweitzer. And I'm 0:15:47.320 --> 0:15:49.480 here with Eric Eggers, and we are filling in for 0:15:49.600 --> 0:15:52.640 Sean and we are grateful for the opportunity to do so. 0:15:52.880 --> 0:15:57.280 And Alec Baldwin loves you. I think you're his favorite 0:15:57.280 --> 0:15:58.040 conservative author. 0:15:58.120 --> 0:15:58.920 Do you think so well? 0:15:58.960 --> 0:16:00.720 Just because you haven't? You know, you know he's got 0:16:00.720 --> 0:16:02.200 bigger problems to wear about right now. 0:16:03.080 --> 0:16:05.840 I think he absolutely does. We have a great guest 0:16:05.880 --> 0:16:08.200 on the line right now. He's actually a dear friend 0:16:08.200 --> 0:16:13.400 of mine. He's really America's premier combat historian, Patrick K. O'Donnell. 0:16:14.000 --> 0:16:16.920 He's written a bunch of books, and I have to say, honestly, 0:16:17.400 --> 0:16:19.200 I don't read a lot of history, not because I 0:16:19.200 --> 0:16:21.320 don't love it. I love to read it. The problem 0:16:21.320 --> 0:16:22.880 is I don't have the time because it's been so 0:16:23.000 --> 0:16:25.920 much time researching, doing the work on my books. But 0:16:26.040 --> 0:16:29.080 I read Pat because his writing is terrific. He's got 0:16:29.120 --> 0:16:32.280 a new book out called The Unvanquished, The Untold Story 0:16:32.320 --> 0:16:35.840 of Lincoln Special Forces, the manhunt for Mosby's Rangers, and 0:16:35.880 --> 0:16:39.720 the Shadow War that forged America's Special operations. And by 0:16:39.760 --> 0:16:43.080 the way, he's not just a writer like me. This 0:16:43.120 --> 0:16:45.320 is a guy who actually, during the Iraq War was 0:16:45.360 --> 0:16:48.520 embedded with the military and actually fought with a Marine 0:16:48.720 --> 0:16:52.160 rifle platoon during the Battle of Fallujah. So this is 0:16:52.200 --> 0:16:54.160 a guy who has seen combat. And I wanted to 0:16:54.160 --> 0:16:56.960 have Pat on today because we know there's all this 0:16:57.080 --> 0:17:00.880 news going on. It's kind of unsettling and disconc but 0:17:00.960 --> 0:17:05.120 we are celebrating America's independence tomorrow and I thought Pat 0:17:05.119 --> 0:17:07.240 would be a great guy that could help us bridge 0:17:07.280 --> 0:17:12.280 and understand what independence means. We declared our independence in 0:17:12.400 --> 0:17:15.280 seventeen seventy six, but we're kind of fighting for our 0:17:15.320 --> 0:17:18.280 independence every single day, and there's a lot of brave 0:17:18.359 --> 0:17:20.560 men and women who have done so over the centuries. 0:17:20.680 --> 0:17:22.520 So and the fact that you and I can sit 0:17:22.560 --> 0:17:25.280 here and host the national radio show and be openly 0:17:25.320 --> 0:17:27.800 critical of the President of the United States and the 0:17:27.840 --> 0:17:30.359 media establishment around it, you can't do that in other countries. 0:17:30.400 --> 0:17:32.879 So we continue to enjoy freedoms that the rest of 0:17:32.920 --> 0:17:35.600 the world envies dramatically, And I think it's good to 0:17:35.600 --> 0:17:38.320 be reminded of how those freedoms war won. 0:17:38.760 --> 0:17:40.919 And Patrick o'donod think is an excellent person to do that. 0:17:41.080 --> 0:17:44.080 Yeah, so, Pat, it's great to be on with you. 0:17:44.119 --> 0:17:48.720 Tell us about the fourth of July through the prism 0:17:48.880 --> 0:17:52.560 of what you study, which is combat American history and 0:17:52.640 --> 0:17:55.480 the heroes that have done so much to preserve and 0:17:55.560 --> 0:17:56.560 protect this country. 0:17:57.280 --> 0:18:00.439 Absolutely, freedom isn't free. And you know, let me just 0:18:00.520 --> 0:18:03.000 take you back in time, the listeners back in time 0:18:03.840 --> 0:18:07.840 to the fourth of July of eighteen sixty four, where 0:18:08.040 --> 0:18:10.879 this is our second founding the Civil War. It's the 0:18:10.920 --> 0:18:14.639 Great Civil War, and it's at this time that America, 0:18:14.960 --> 0:18:18.280 the North, the Union is really of its greatest peril 0:18:18.680 --> 0:18:22.320 in the war. And it's an unknown, relatively unknown special 0:18:22.359 --> 0:18:25.840 operations rate that involves the guy by name of Jebel 0:18:25.880 --> 0:18:29.760 Early Leaves, bad old man, and he has an army 0:18:29.760 --> 0:18:32.560 of fourteen thousand men that are barreling down on the 0:18:32.640 --> 0:18:35.640 nation's capital. And I have a great article right now 0:18:35.680 --> 0:18:39.119 at the front page of Breibart on that raid and 0:18:39.160 --> 0:18:41.720 also his interactions with the guy by the name of 0:18:41.760 --> 0:18:44.679 John Singleton Mosby, who is the greatest partisan leader of 0:18:44.720 --> 0:18:48.080 all time. In American history, and these two they don't 0:18:48.080 --> 0:18:51.080 really work together very well, but they're about to probably 0:18:51.119 --> 0:18:56.080 take down the capitol, and the North is in desperate shape. 0:18:56.520 --> 0:18:58.800 Most of the men that are in the war are 0:18:58.920 --> 0:19:04.159 down south in Petersburg encircling that that siege with General 0:19:04.160 --> 0:19:07.639