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Speaker 1: Hi everybody, Welcome to the show, John Murphy and Steve Tasker.

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Speaker 1: We're coming to Alive from the NFL scouting Combine and

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Speaker 1: Indie just talking whiskey believe it enough. Before he came

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Speaker 1: the whiskey they're drinking, You must have enjoyed it. I

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Speaker 1: what are we talking about. We're back in Indie where

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Speaker 1: Steve's living the high life. You gotta go go first class,

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Speaker 1: and you did. You went to dinner with an old

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Speaker 1: teammate last night. I think folks remember that name, John Kidd,

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Speaker 1: so Steve reconnected with his teammate John Kid last night.

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Speaker 1: I went to dinner with our producer. Got back in

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Speaker 1: better being like me Murphy completely seriously, Yes, that put

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Speaker 1: point apologize for the last two months of one Bill's life,

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Speaker 1: we have not had great shows. I'm just kidding, Jake. No,

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Speaker 1: there of NFL Network. He's gonna be right here in

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Speaker 1: hear from you eight h three oh five fifty toll

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Speaker 1: free one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty.

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Speaker 1: If I'm answering the question, I see why people put

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Speaker 1: size in length, but I'm putting good hands. It doesn't

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Speaker 1: matter if you have size, It doesn't matter if you

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Speaker 1: have speed. If you can't catch the ball, you're no

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Speaker 1: help to us. You don't. I think also with a

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Speaker 1: quarterback we're talking about, not every ball is going to

431
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Speaker 1: be in your bread basket. You gotta be able to

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Speaker 1: catch it away from your body. You got to have

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Speaker 1: a big catch radius, and you got to catch all

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Speaker 1: of them. And you think too, of the criticisms we've

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Speaker 1: brought towards some of the players that the Bills have

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Speaker 1: on their roster, like Dawson Knox and um even Duke

437
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Speaker 1: Williams or whatever, you know, the drops or killers. You

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Speaker 1: need guys who do not drop it. Ever, that is

439
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Speaker 1: a function of having a quarterback like the Bills do,

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Speaker 1: where you need guys to help him in his accuracy,

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Speaker 1: Guys that are that close down that widen out his

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Speaker 1: margin of error. And you know that starts with your

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Speaker 1: ability to catch the ball. And it sounds and it's

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Speaker 1: funny when you start talking about these traits like, well,

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Speaker 1: of course and you want you of course you want

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Speaker 1: a guy that's fast, well okay, yeah, well of course

447
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Speaker 1: you want a guy that's big, you know. Okay, well

448
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Speaker 1: you of course you want a guy that's that can catch. Well, yeah,

449
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Speaker 1: you want all of that stuff. But if you're talking

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Speaker 1: about one of the things that will define the guy

451
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Speaker 1: that you're gonna get, you want a guy that catches everything. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and that's maybe that is the number one characteristic. What

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Speaker 1: do you think they'll give us a call? Eight h

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Speaker 1: three fifty toll free one eight eight eight five fifty

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Speaker 1: two five fifty. It's a topic that bills GM Brandon's

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Speaker 1: being addressed yesterday when he met with the media in

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Speaker 1: a news conference here at the Combine. He was asked,

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Speaker 1: what kind of receiver are you looking for. Here's how

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Speaker 1: Brandon being responded, receiver of all position probably comes in

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Speaker 1: the Baskin Robbins thirty one. Flavors like uh, size, speed, length,

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Speaker 1: guys run after catch all sorts of you know, variables.

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Speaker 1: There's really small guys that do a lot of the

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Speaker 1: stuff that Isaah McKenzie does behind them back, you know,

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Speaker 1: behind the line of scrimmage. Uh, there's guys that I

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Speaker 1: call play above the rim interesting basket Robbins thirty two flavors.

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Speaker 1: But he's right, there's a lot of different receivers you

467
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Speaker 1: can get. You if you're the Bills, you have to

468
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Speaker 1: look at what you have and what's in the draft. Right,

469
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Speaker 1: you want the complete receiver, obviously, right, but you can

470
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Speaker 1: also choose among characteristics. I think size, length, speed, hands,

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Speaker 1: and let's face it, two it's a total package. And

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Speaker 1: how they all add up? You know, is he fast

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Speaker 1: enough though he's not fast, and even if he's not fast,

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Speaker 1: can he gets separation? Can he get off bump coverage

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Speaker 1: that you see in the NFL that you don't see

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Speaker 1: in college. Can he run after the catch? Can he

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Speaker 1: make tough catches? Can he elevate? You know all of

478
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Speaker 1: this stuff because he does. He run good routes so

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Speaker 1: the quarterback know where he's gonna be or his lights on.

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Speaker 1: Can he make adjustments on the fly? Can he read

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Speaker 1: a defense and run a different route that was called

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Speaker 1: in the huddle after he gets to the line of scrimmage,

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Speaker 1: knowing the quarterback is expecting him to run a different

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Speaker 1: route as he you know, his lights on upstairs. All

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Speaker 1: of this stuff goes into the pot, and each guy

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Speaker 1: brings that to the table, brings his skill set to

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Speaker 1: the table, and all of that stuff gets weighed and

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Speaker 1: it'll all And the question is which one of those traits, characteristics,

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Speaker 1: identifiers for each different guy elevate him above. But when

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Speaker 1: the Bills elevate him, So when the Bills pick, that's

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Speaker 1: the guy that stands out because of this trade and

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Speaker 1: because of the rest of it he's got. It's I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's like take looking at a racing form and trying

494
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Speaker 1: to pick a winner. You know, it's hard to do,

495
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Speaker 1: and it's a little bit of an art form more

496
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Speaker 1: than than it is a science. John McDermott was asked

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Speaker 1: the question yesterday in particular, do the Bills need a

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Speaker 1: wide receiver in this trap? Here's what the head coach

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Speaker 1: of the Bill said yesterday. Yeah, I think you know,

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Speaker 1: the game changes in so many ways, and so whether

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Speaker 1: you're adding a wide receiver or protecting your quarterback, I

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Speaker 1: think it's it's important right that we continue to add

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Speaker 1: pieces on the offensive side of the of the board,

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Speaker 1: and adding playmakers is important. But if you have playmakers

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Speaker 1: and no one to protect the quarterback. That doesn't work either.

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Speaker 1: We've all seen that, so doing going about it in

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Speaker 1: a responsible way, trying to do both would be ideal.

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Speaker 1: He's right, And I want to ask you, Marv Levy,

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Speaker 1: I recall I don't know if this still holds too.

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Speaker 1: When you played for Marbo see Mark used to say

511
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Speaker 1: receivers usually take a year or two to get acclimated

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Speaker 1: into the league. He said, unlike other positions, it's hard

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Speaker 1: to find a plug and ready to play right away receiver. Right,

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Speaker 1: and you played a lot of receiver in your career.

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Speaker 1: Is that true. It's true, it's not as true I

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Speaker 1: think as it used to be. I think the players

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Speaker 1: coming out of college now are more polished than they

518
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Speaker 1: were in that day and age twenty five years ago.

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Speaker 1: You got more colleges that are thrown it around more,

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Speaker 1: with more quality offensive coordinators, more quality coaching at the

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Speaker 1: lower levels. The guys are coming out more polished. But

522
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Speaker 1: by the same token, the NFL continues to elevate in

523
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Speaker 1: the passing game further and further ahead of everybody else.

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Speaker 1: So you do there is an acclimation process for every

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Speaker 1: player that comes out into the NFL, because every guy

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Speaker 1: out on the field in the NFL is as good

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Speaker 1: as every player they played against at their college level.

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Speaker 1: That in and of itself requires a little bit of

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Speaker 1: getting used to. But certainly there have been players who

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Speaker 1: kind of made that not true. Julio Jones was good

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Speaker 1: the moment he stepped on the field. Calvin Johnson was

532
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Speaker 1: good the moment he stepped on the field. But those

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Speaker 1: guys are physically different, and they came out of a

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Speaker 1: program that was that polished him as a as a

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Speaker 1: great player. So if you get that, well, then it's

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Speaker 1: not always true. It's usually true, and it doesn't always

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Speaker 1: take a year or two or three. Sometimes it takes

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Speaker 1: a game or two or three, or a practice or

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Speaker 1: two or three. And some guys never get it, even

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Speaker 1: though they have all the physical traits, they never acclimate

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Speaker 1: to that. So it's different for every guy, but generally speaking,

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Speaker 1: there is an acclimation process, and depending on that guy,

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Speaker 1: you know, you can generalize and say a year or

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Speaker 1: two or three, but I don't think it's that long anymore.

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Speaker 1: Let's take a quick phone call here from Joe and

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Speaker 1: Ken Mora. Hello, Joe, you're on the air of this

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Speaker 1: Go ahead and wait minute, Let me, I gotta punch

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Speaker 1: this up, Joe apologize. Yeah, go ahead, Joe, Yeah, yea.

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Speaker 1: The qualities I think they should look for in a

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Speaker 1: receiver are basically what you guys are saying. White character

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Speaker 1: off the field and speed and how does he hold

552
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Speaker 1: onto the ball? Does fun or not? That's very important,

553
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Speaker 1: you know, because the wind. They got to carry on

554
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Speaker 1: a certain way and protect that ball. Sure, you know,

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Speaker 1: And Joe and Steve. Here's the thing. It's not as

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Speaker 1: if the Bills are adding to a receiver room that

557
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Speaker 1: is devoid of talent, bereft of talent. They have good receivers.

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Speaker 1: Cole Beasley, John Brown, even some of them down the line,

559
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Speaker 1: guys are pretty good receivers. Yeah. The interesting thing about

560
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Speaker 1: this is how many new guys are going to be

561
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Speaker 1: in that room when the season kicks off in twenty twenty.

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Speaker 1: Is it gonna be Cole Beasley, John Brown and three

563
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Speaker 1: four five new guys or just two new guys and

564
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Speaker 1: the guy you know? And how's that gonna how's the

565
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Speaker 1: rest of the room is Andre Roberts is still gonna

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Speaker 1: be there? Probably is. They're probably gonna bring him back

567
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Speaker 1: because he's a great return guys. Okay, so none, there's

568
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Speaker 1: three guys that are active, and you're only gonna activate

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Speaker 1: five guys on game day, maybe six. How many of

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Speaker 1: those guys are gonna be brand new faces? Is Isam

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Speaker 1: McKenzie gonna have a spot as Duke Williams is gonna

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Speaker 1: have a spot at you know, go down the line,

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Speaker 1: Is Robert Foster gonna have a spot? There's gonna be

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Speaker 1: a battle to make this roster and they're gonna bring

575
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Speaker 1: in some competition. So the bottom floor this roster is

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Speaker 1: gonna go up and it bet and whether those guys

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Speaker 1: are going to develop, Duke William's gonna be as good

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Speaker 1: as he was at the end of the season when

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Speaker 1: he was on the field, or is he going to

580
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Speaker 1: fall away? And are they going to draft a guy

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Speaker 1: that's gonna be Adam absolutely plug and play. He's on.

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Speaker 1: So there's now you're down to one or two spots

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Speaker 1: that are gonna be available, and that's the big question

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Speaker 1: mark in my mind. That's good. There's no question they're

585
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Speaker 1: gonna be a rinsing through of that entire room. Hey,

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Speaker 1: we're talking a lot about receivers today because the Bills

587
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Speaker 1: are talking to a lot of receivers down here. We're

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Speaker 1: going to continue this discussion as the show moves along.

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Speaker 1: We've got a great one coming up, including one of

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Speaker 1: Steve's former teammates, well known name in Buffalo, Frank Wreich,

591
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Speaker 1: now head coach of the Indianapolis Culture, had a chance

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Speaker 1: to sit with him league yesterday. We'll have an interview

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Speaker 1: when we come back. Come on back with us. We're

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Speaker 1: just getting rolling. One Bill's Live, presented by Kalida from

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Speaker 1: the NFL Scouting Combine in Indianapolis. This is Buffalo Bill's Radio.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to One Bills bid Down, Mercy's Deep Cancer,

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Speaker 1: and a special guest right in the middle. Here, head

598
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:25,359
Speaker 1: coach of the local team, the Indianapolis called Frank breakers

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00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:28,760
Speaker 1: with us. Brank, good to see you know this guy. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's the best right here? He's all right, I'm this

601
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 1: guy's still my idol after all these years. Why would

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Speaker 1: that be? It's not it's no. I used to be

603
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Speaker 1: out in the field with him and I'd every day

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Speaker 1: I'd walk off the field and I'd say that, right

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Speaker 1: there is one of the best football players I've ever

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Speaker 1: been around. You want to keep going, this is what

607
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:48,680
Speaker 1: you like? This will be quiet him talking himself into

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Speaker 1: a hole he can't get out of. Hard to imagine,

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Speaker 1: But you're going into your third season as coach of

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Speaker 1: the Colts. I mean, it's just hard to believe. You've

611
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:56,680
Speaker 1: been here two years already. It is hard to believe.

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Speaker 1: And I was joking over there two and twenty came

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Speaker 1: into the league in the eighty five, thirty five years

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Speaker 1: of being around this league. But what's exciting is it

615
00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:07,800
Speaker 1: just keeps getting better and more fun exciting, you know,

616
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:13,320
Speaker 1: more game get bigger, better, more fans, more media. It's good.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's fun to be a part of it.

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Speaker 1: And third year now with the Colts, great ownership, you know,

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Speaker 1: great players, team coaches. You know, I have to pinch myself. Yeah,

620
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:25,160
Speaker 1: we talked even when we were playing how the game

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Speaker 1: changed incrementally every year, and it's evolved to the point

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Speaker 1: where it is now. It is amazing where the game

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Speaker 1: is now. It's almost you see these offenses. They say

624
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Speaker 1: there's nothing new under the sun. It's still eleven on eleven.

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Speaker 1: But it's a really creative game these days. Off particularly offense.

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Speaker 1: I don't know about defense, but offensively it's very creative

627
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:45,920
Speaker 1: still with everything that they're doing and it's continues to

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00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:48,880
Speaker 1: go down that way. I think you have to steve because, right,

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Speaker 1: there's so much technology today, so you have all this data,

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Speaker 1: all this information that we have in our hands. So

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Speaker 1: if you don't change it up, I got you, I

632
00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:58,200
Speaker 1: got you wired, right, you know, I got I got

633
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:02,040
Speaker 1: mounds of information. I can get you wired. So you

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00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 1: gotta do give unscouted looks. You got to give things

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00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:08,120
Speaker 1: that they haven't seen before, little twists, tweaks to things

636
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:10,280
Speaker 1: to keep people off balance. Right. You know we never

637
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:12,320
Speaker 1: talk about on our show, and everybody knows you're connection

638
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:15,160
Speaker 1: to Western New York. But your offensive coordinator, Nick Sirianni

639
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 1: is a James sound guy. What role does he play

640
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 1: in getting those little tricks and twists going for the offense?

641
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 1: A massive role. I mean, Nick is you know, Nick

642
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:27,320
Speaker 1: to me is one of the bright young offensive minds

643
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:31,280
Speaker 1: of this league. There's when I got hired as the

644
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:35,040
Speaker 1: head coach, I told Chris Ballard, Um, I know everybody

645
00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:37,360
Speaker 1: on their staff is important, but there's one guy I

646
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:40,480
Speaker 1: gotta get. I gotta get Nick Sirianni um. And he

647
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:44,560
Speaker 1: was the receiver coach um in in San Diego at

648
00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:47,160
Speaker 1: the time, or La at the time, and so and

649
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 1: I didn't think I was gonna be able to get

650
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:50,360
Speaker 1: him out of there. And uh, you know, kudos to

651
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:53,440
Speaker 1: Anthony Lynn because he knew, you know, he knows he

652
00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 1: got a good coach and Nick, but he didn't want

653
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:56,800
Speaker 1: to hold Nick back from that. They could have kept

654
00:29:56,880 --> 00:30:00,360
Speaker 1: him and Tom Tolesco and and Anthony Lynn work aracious

655
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:02,600
Speaker 1: enough to hey, letting Nick have an opportunity. They know

656
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:05,479
Speaker 1: he's a young rising star. So I'm glad we got him.

657
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:07,080
Speaker 1: Did I know Nick went to basketball camp with our

658
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:10,360
Speaker 1: producer Jay Harris. That's awesome, I tell thee. Nick tells

659
00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:12,040
Speaker 1: me he was a pretty good basketball player. So I'm

660
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:16,840
Speaker 1: trusting you. And Nick is one of those guys. And

661
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:18,520
Speaker 1: I got to ask you about this too, because just

662
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:21,040
Speaker 1: like Anthony Lid did for you, you're you know, we

663
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:22,920
Speaker 1: saw it a little bit in Buffalo where you get

664
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:25,680
Speaker 1: guys who interviewed for coach ars our offensive coordinator was

665
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:28,040
Speaker 1: in one of the finals for the Cleveland job, and

666
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 1: what has you know, and Nick has been for years

667
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:33,320
Speaker 1: one of the guys who's been on the rise and

668
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 1: now and if any of there was, if there was

669
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:38,760
Speaker 1: ever a year for you guys to prove your metal.

670
00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:42,000
Speaker 1: It was finding out a week before the regular season

671
00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 1: starts that Andrew Luck retires. I mean, you guys, I

672
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:48,080
Speaker 1: mean you had to like close the door of the

673
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:52,320
Speaker 1: bunker and kind of twisted tight and kind of what

674
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 1: was your first reaction and what did you and Nick

675
00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:57,440
Speaker 1: talk about how you were going to approach it. Certainly

676
00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:00,360
Speaker 1: you gave Jacobe the extension and got him tight up,

677
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:03,400
Speaker 1: but what's your mindset? Well, there was two things that

678
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 1: two things that were thinking. You know, first of all,

679
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:07,719
Speaker 1: you know, you're just a little bit in shock. I mean,

680
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 1: and I mean you understand, you know, when you really

681
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:11,720
Speaker 1: sit down and talk with Andrew and you hear it,

682
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 1: and you hear him you wish him the best, and

683
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:15,400
Speaker 1: you wish him the best, and you say, you understand

684
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 1: and you've got to make the decision that's right for

685
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 1: you and your family and you respect that. And that's

686
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 1: just the way it is, and it's there's never a

687
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:24,479
Speaker 1: good time for that. But then so that's one thing

688
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 1: you think. Well, the other thing you think is let's go.

689
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, and I think it was really

690
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 1: a credit to our players or coaches that coming on

691
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:35,800
Speaker 1: the heels of that news that we started out the season.

692
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 1: As Murph and I were talking, you know, right after

693
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 1: five and two, five and two, I mean, who would

694
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:41,720
Speaker 1: have ever thought we would have been five and two

695
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 1: after getting that news Um a couple of weeks before

696
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:47,840
Speaker 1: the season. Uh. The unfortunate thing was we weren't able

697
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 1: to sustain that. We ran out of guests. So that's

698
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:51,640
Speaker 1: what we got to get corrected. What went well and

699
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 1: that start, I mean six six wins after ten games,

700
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 1: you were still you had to go in ten weeks

701
00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 1: into the season. What did you was everything totally different

702
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:01,160
Speaker 1: than you planned going into the season. You just know

703
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:04,880
Speaker 1: we're running the ball well, you know, running the ball well, UM,

704
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:08,400
Speaker 1: making some plays on offense, and and holding down you know,

705
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 1: playing really good defense, UM, putting pressure on the quarterback,

706
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 1: minimizing big plays. You know, down the stretch. What happened,

707
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 1: Murph was on offense, we got we got pretty weak

708
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 1: in the passing game. We really struggled in the passing

709
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:25,480
Speaker 1: game in the latter part of the season. And then

710
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 1: on defense, our struggle was we probably gave up a

711
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:29,960
Speaker 1: few more big plays than we gave up in the

712
00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:31,480
Speaker 1: first half of the year. And you still get in

713
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 1: we've had this conversation both Mike tan Obaum and Murph

714
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:36,840
Speaker 1: and I in Buffalo and then around the league is

715
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:41,360
Speaker 1: these games come down to a handful of plays, and

716
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 1: there are teams that just you get into a spot

717
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:46,920
Speaker 1: or a stretch where consistently you lose three or four

718
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:48,960
Speaker 1: plays in the game and it has a ripple effect

719
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:51,960
Speaker 1: that caused you for the loss, and other every other play,

720
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:55,000
Speaker 1: every other you know, one of the ninety eight percent

721
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:57,720
Speaker 1: of the plays is yeah, is fine, but you lose

722
00:32:57,760 --> 00:32:59,480
Speaker 1: a handful of plays and it cost you the game. No,

723
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 1: you're Zach right, And there was a stat I don't

724
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:04,200
Speaker 1: remember right now, but so we were five and two

725
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 1: and all the games I think were decided by one

726
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 1: score less and then uh and so we had some

727
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:14,120
Speaker 1: stack going that we were doing well. But as the

728
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 1: year went on, it was that's what it was. And

729
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:18,560
Speaker 1: then we started losing some of those close games. To

730
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 1: your point, just well what happened, Well, I don't know.

731
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:23,560
Speaker 1: It was just two or three plays pass or an

732
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 1: incomplete pass where we had a guy open. Yeah, and

733
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 1: that's it and you go home with the loss here.

734
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:30,720
Speaker 1: And so one of the things you learned through that is, hey, yeah,

735
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:32,440
Speaker 1: you gotta learn how to win those close games and

736
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 1: make those plays that you need to make. But the

737
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:37,440
Speaker 1: other thing you learned, and I always thought Marv Levy

738
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 1: was was great at this um. You know. He used

739
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:42,080
Speaker 1: always say this thing about, hey, you got to win

740
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:44,600
Speaker 1: the games that you're really you know, so whenever we played,

741
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:47,520
Speaker 1: you know, at home, like you better dominate. You know,

742
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:49,960
Speaker 1: it shouldn't come down to one score, right, you know

743
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:52,959
Speaker 1: what I mean, don't make it come down Yeah. Well,

744
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,280
Speaker 1: I mean he was always, hey, you gotta win the games.

745
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 1: You gotta win the games that you're supposed to win.

746
00:33:57,480 --> 00:33:59,400
Speaker 1: So you know, for us at home, that was you're

747
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:01,240
Speaker 1: gonna go eight all at home. And you look at

748
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:03,280
Speaker 1: those good years that we had and we were either

749
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 1: eight No. Seven and one at home and maybe six

750
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:07,320
Speaker 1: and two. When you're it is either eight no or

751
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:09,920
Speaker 1: seven and one and uh. And then if you just

752
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:13,680
Speaker 1: split on the road, that's you. You're twelve and four.

753
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:17,759
Speaker 1: You had Bobby Ross at Maryland, right, yes, and Marv

754
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 1: in the NFL. Do you find yourself referring back to,

755
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:23,799
Speaker 1: like lessons learn from those two one hundred percent? Yeah,

756
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:26,239
Speaker 1: all the times, you know, Marv, especially because I had

757
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 1: Marv for so long, and it was more recent. I

758
00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 1: still talk to him. I mean I try to call

759
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:32,600
Speaker 1: him a couple of times a year and you know,

760
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 1: just love and respect Marv. And I'm still trying to

761
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 1: get him to come to the game. He's he's been

762
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:38,839
Speaker 1: close a couple of times of he and Frank coming

763
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:40,719
Speaker 1: down to a game. But hopefully this will be the

764
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:42,439
Speaker 1: year I'll get him to come down to Lucas Oil,

765
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 1: get the Cubs to play down here. It will shoot

766
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:47,279
Speaker 1: down here. It's crazy about the Cup. Well, so what's

767
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 1: your thought process? What are the just a thumbnail of

768
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:52,359
Speaker 1: the Indianapolis Colts as scouting combine or where you sit

769
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:54,279
Speaker 1: and what you're looking at? You know, we got it,

770
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:59,279
Speaker 1: we you It's all about competition, so you know, making

771
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 1: the team better. So at every position, both sides of

772
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:05,759
Speaker 1: the ball, special teams. You know, how do we piece together?

773
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 1: What are we look at? You know the unique things? Hey,

774
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 1: here's who we are offensively? What pieces are we missing

775
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:12,840
Speaker 1: as an offense? What do we like to do? What fits?

776
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 1: You know? Defensively? Who are we identity wise, schematically wise?

777
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:20,920
Speaker 1: What pieces are we missing? And then but you never

778
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:22,400
Speaker 1: know how it's all going to play out. That's the

779
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:25,239
Speaker 1: unknown factor. So you've got a multiple contingency plans. So

780
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:28,400
Speaker 1: you start to figure that all out here. You coached

781
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:29,880
Speaker 1: in San Diego for a couple of years, had a

782
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 1: great relationship with Philip Rivers. He's a free agent now.

783
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:35,759
Speaker 1: You've seen him and you told me one time, and

784
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 1: I've referred to it a number of times in past

785
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 1: protection Philip is a set apart. Yeah, the guys protect.

786
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 1: He knows what's happening up front of him, and he's

787
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 1: a real asset to his offensive line, even if they're

788
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:48,399
Speaker 1: not as gifted as you want him to be. He's

789
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:49,960
Speaker 1: out of there on the free agent market. What are

790
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:51,920
Speaker 1: your thoughts about him? Where he could play, where he

791
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 1: could land, What he still offers a team at this

792
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:56,719
Speaker 1: because you've seen him when he was four years ago,

793
00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 1: when he's still in his prime maybe or now when

794
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:02,440
Speaker 1: he's thirty eight, right, what's he bring to the table.

795
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:04,160
Speaker 1: What's a team gonna get with him? And do you

796
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:05,880
Speaker 1: think he can still do it? Yeah? I mean you

797
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 1: know it's actually for me. I havn't been with him.

798
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 1: It's it's fun to think about there, but I but

799
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 1: I at this point, I'm not even allowing myself to

800
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 1: go there. You know that that's a process that we

801
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:19,720
Speaker 1: as a team are going through, you know, position by position,

802
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:24,360
Speaker 1: Because what I've learned is, hey, Jacoby's our quarterback. You know?

803
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 1: Does that mean I was saying over there on the

804
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:28,840
Speaker 1: podium that in this league there's very few guys that

805
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 1: have the luxury of saying, hey, I'm a lock, I

806
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:33,440
Speaker 1: don't have to worry about competition. They're not going to

807
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 1: bring anybody compete. Well, there's not many guys that have

808
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 1: the luxury, so we'll look at every position. I don't

809
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 1: know how that'll all play out, but what I know

810
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:43,319
Speaker 1: right now is I'm focused on how to get our

811
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:46,880
Speaker 1: guys better, and then when the likes of if, at

812
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:49,040
Speaker 1: any point in any other position out there, they come

813
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 1: on our team, then they become our guys. I mean

814
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:54,400
Speaker 1: for the media, that's all fun to talk about, but

815
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:57,400
Speaker 1: for us, it's personal and family inside. So until that

816
00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:00,800
Speaker 1: guy's in the door, we kind of plus, particularly in

817
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 1: a room like this we've got. We've been talking like,

818
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:04,359
Speaker 1: you get three hundred guys here, you get to pick

819
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:07,120
Speaker 1: what seven of them? Yeah, and who knows, you know

820
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 1: who the last guys you pick are picked over you know, right,

821
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:14,440
Speaker 1: so you have to deal in absolutes. You know, Jacobe

822
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:16,400
Speaker 1: Pristz on your roster. That's right. Let's get him as

823
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 1: good as we can get and if something else comes

824
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:20,279
Speaker 1: along to compete with him, okay, that's right. But right

825
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 1: now you got to deal in absolutes. And this is

826
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:25,319
Speaker 1: an absolute at all. Yeah, And like for your case

827
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:28,239
Speaker 1: in point Um, there have been in the previous two years.

828
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 1: I was telling the guys over there, we had a

829
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 1: couple of free agents identified that we were going to

830
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:35,680
Speaker 1: go after. We thought we're going to get these guys,

831
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:38,759
Speaker 1: and we think we have the resources to get him.

832
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:40,480
Speaker 1: It's going to play out. We think we can get him,

833
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 1: and then something crazy happens. We get them, you don't

834
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 1: get them. And so and I was telling our local

835
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:50,320
Speaker 1: reporters over there that actually, in both of those scenarios,

836
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 1: when we look back on it now, it's a good

837
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:56,320
Speaker 1: thing we didn't get them, you know. So you know,

838
00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:58,719
Speaker 1: it doesn't make any sense for us to say, hey,

839
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:00,920
Speaker 1: we're all gonna put our eggs in and on this baste.

840
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 1: There's too many factors. So you just take it day

841
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:05,239
Speaker 1: by day. One thing you seem to have with the

842
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:07,800
Speaker 1: Indianapolis Colts is a pretty good offensive line, huh, and

843
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:10,759
Speaker 1: most of them coming back? What's Castanzos? Yeah, he's coming back,

844
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:12,840
Speaker 1: so you know, I mean Chris just to announced that

845
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:16,239
Speaker 1: today or earlier that he's coming back, that's huge news. Right,

846
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:19,759
Speaker 1: last year we had all five starters start sixteen games.

847
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 1: That doesn't happen to do. It's hard to do. It

848
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:25,319
Speaker 1: doesn't happen. I was joking with the guys over there, Um, hey,

849
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:27,480
Speaker 1: well why did he come back while he didn't want that?

850
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 1: He had four guys. You got a string of sixteen

851
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:31,359
Speaker 1: games in a row, and now you're just gonna walk

852
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:34,799
Speaker 1: away and retire, right, said those other four guys on, hey,

853
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 1: you gotta talk to him again. They'll never talk to

854
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:39,719
Speaker 1: him again, that's right. So well that's a good block

855
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 1: to building though, right, an offensive line like that. No,

856
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:44,000
Speaker 1: And as you guys know, in the past game, so

857
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 1: when you got a left tackle who you're locked down,

858
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 1: and you know, if you want to put pressure on

859
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:51,160
Speaker 1: a defense, you know you gotta in the past game, well,

860
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:52,960
Speaker 1: you gotta be able to free release set back every

861
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 1: now and then. And when you got a guy left

862
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:56,840
Speaker 1: tackle over there that you know that can handle whoever

863
00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:58,440
Speaker 1: it is over there. You don't have to chip help.

864
00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:00,799
Speaker 1: That's a big deal. Where's a league heading? You got

865
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 1: to see? You know, we're not the CBA experts by

866
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:05,800
Speaker 1: any stretch of the imagination. But for football side of it.

867
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 1: You had the challenge, the OPI DPI challenge this year,

868
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:12,440
Speaker 1: which was I don't know, it was. It didn't work right,

869
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:14,480
Speaker 1: It didn't look like anyway. They're not happy with it.

870
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:17,160
Speaker 1: They've said that already. Where's the league headed? Do you

871
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 1: think with coaches challenges with replay and also the on

872
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:22,920
Speaker 1: the field rules that may change this year? You know what,

873
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:24,359
Speaker 1: you know what I thought it was good about last

874
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 1: year at least the way I played out. I mean,

875
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 1: at least we took a step where you know, we

876
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:29,560
Speaker 1: can argue, we can argue what worked about it, what

877
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:31,719
Speaker 1: didn't work about it, So you can change it again. Yeah,

878
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 1: you can change it again, or you can take it away,

879
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:37,759
Speaker 1: you know whatever. But uh, you know, I think the

880
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:39,960
Speaker 1: intent was right, you know, So we'll go back to

881
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:42,440
Speaker 1: the league meetings. It'll be fun, you know, to get

882
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:44,279
Speaker 1: all It's always fun those league meetings, you know, to

883
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:47,320
Speaker 1: get all thirty two head coaches in there talking about that,

884
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:49,640
Speaker 1: you know, and then you get and then they take

885
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 1: it to the competition committee and then it just kind

886
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:54,359
Speaker 1: of plays out. So what I've learned in a few

887
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 1: short years i've been a head coach is, hey, okay,

888
00:39:57,760 --> 00:39:59,839
Speaker 1: I have a small little voice in that thirty two thing.

889
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:02,840
Speaker 1: You know, you let your opinion known and then you

890
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:05,359
Speaker 1: pretty much just say, however it plays out, we'll play

891
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:07,800
Speaker 1: ball with whatever they say. What's Frank right going to

892
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:09,360
Speaker 1: bring the competition to me and he say, hey, we

893
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:11,120
Speaker 1: need to do this? What are you going to say? No?

894
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:13,239
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's all collaborative efforts. So when it

895
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:16,920
Speaker 1: gets on the discussion of OPI DPI, it must make

896
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 1: you commissioner for I wouldn't vote for you that, I'd

897
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:26,320
Speaker 1: vote for you right right, Thanks, I appreciate seriously. What

898
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:29,759
Speaker 1: do you think needs to happen at any level even

899
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:32,240
Speaker 1: off the field, on the field, scheduling in the offseason,

900
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:34,040
Speaker 1: or what's something that maybe is a thorn in your

901
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:36,439
Speaker 1: side that makes it tough to be a head coach

902
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:38,160
Speaker 1: or do the things you want to do? Yeah, Steve,

903
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:40,360
Speaker 1: you know me. I mean, I'm you know, not that

904
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:43,920
Speaker 1: I'm not that I'm not picky because I am and

905
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:47,319
Speaker 1: but and always want to get better. But I think

906
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:50,480
Speaker 1: the game is in pretty good condition, and I feel

907
00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 1: a lot of confidence in the structure or the competition

908
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 1: committee that you know, we got good people represented. You know,

909
00:40:57,200 --> 00:41:01,279
Speaker 1: they're getting our opinions. I'm so focused on on how

910
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 1: we're gonna win our opening game and who we're and

911
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 1: who we're gonna draft out of these guys. You know. Um,

912
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:10,040
Speaker 1: when we get to that competition committee, I kind of

913
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:13,160
Speaker 1: compartmentalize it, like, Hey, we have our time, we met

914
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 1: about OPI, DPI, we submitted our opinions. We here's hey,

915
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 1: do you have any other suggestions? They take all those

916
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 1: in we've sent him in. I trust him. Just tell

917
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:22,239
Speaker 1: me what we're gonna do and we'll get it done.

918
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 1: We should let our listeners know you're making your usual

919
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:27,719
Speaker 1: visit springtime. Visit Buffalo May ninth this year for the

920
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:30,440
Speaker 1: Call to Courage Awards breakfast right, Yeah, how many years

921
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:34,799
Speaker 1: this is nineteen nineteen or twenty Yeah, very excited. Coach

922
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:37,799
Speaker 1: McDermott will be there. So um. I talked to him

923
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:39,560
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago on the phone. He was

924
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:42,440
Speaker 1: gracious enough to lock it down, you know, and I

925
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:44,880
Speaker 1: guess it's not a secret Nick Foles. Nick Foles, I

926
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 1: mean it's going to be the award winner, So very

927
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:50,320
Speaker 1: excited about that. Nick will do a great job. Obviously,

928
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 1: he's got a unique story. So I'm excited for all

929
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:54,480
Speaker 1: the people in Western New York to be able to

930
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:57,279
Speaker 1: get an up close, um personal look at Nick and

931
00:41:57,400 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 1: hear his story. We'll have more information on that as

932
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:02,399
Speaker 1: we get but it is Saturday, May night. Frank's called

933
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:04,600
Speaker 1: a Courage Awards breakfast in Buffalo. Frank, good to see

934
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:07,600
Speaker 1: you as always. Thank you, sweetness, Thanks to care Frank

935
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 1: Bright joining us here and One Bill's Live presented by

936
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:13,440
Speaker 1: Kalaida Hell from the Indianapolis Combine in the NFL Combine

937
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 1: and Indie. This is Buffalo Bills Radio. Thanks again to

938
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:27,600
Speaker 1: Frank Bright for joining us. That was late yesterday about

939
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:30,320
Speaker 1: five thirty six o'clock. Uh. He hasn't changed. That's a

940
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:31,920
Speaker 1: great thing about Frank. You know, you know what I mean,

941
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:33,680
Speaker 1: you knew him better than I do. You've known him

942
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 1: better than I have. He just he never changes. He's

943
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:40,680
Speaker 1: just the same. Stay still a thinker and yeah, good communicator. Uh,

944
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:43,359
Speaker 1: just one of those guys. It's easy to see the cults,

945
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:46,200
Speaker 1: you know, the players rally around him for obvious reasons.

946
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:49,279
Speaker 1: The guy's just he's he's a leader, and um, you

947
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 1: want to join up with a guy like that. Yeah,

948
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:53,479
Speaker 1: he did a fantastic job. And as we talked about

949
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 1: in the interview about you know, picking up the pieces

950
00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:59,879
Speaker 1: after a Hall of Fame caliber quarterback, although he's young

951
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:04,080
Speaker 1: in his career, Andrew Luck hangs it up unexpectedly. I

952
00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:05,640
Speaker 1: was talking to Coult people, you know, you think about

953
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 1: Andrew Luck. I mean, really stabbed him in the back

954
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 1: to wait that long, wait that long, and even a

955
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:14,760
Speaker 1: week before he was you know, in the preseason, last preseason,

956
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 1: he's yucking it up on the sidelines and having good

957
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:18,840
Speaker 1: time and enjoying it. And then all of a sudden,

958
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:22,080
Speaker 1: it's just done and sis, guys, you know, and they

959
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 1: got to pick up the pieces and move on. And

960
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:25,400
Speaker 1: Frank had him at five and two. And then of

961
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:27,640
Speaker 1: course the depth of their team showed. They lack a

962
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:29,759
Speaker 1: little depth and had some injury problems and they you know,

963
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:31,719
Speaker 1: they ended up winning only seven games on the season.

964
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:33,960
Speaker 1: I always wish him well, Frank Craik And May ninth

965
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:35,400
Speaker 1: is the date you'll be there, right for the call.

966
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:38,239
Speaker 1: The Courage Breakfast this year. That's my plan. To the

967
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:40,680
Speaker 1: only reason I'm never if I'm not there that has

968
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:42,959
Speaker 1: turned out in different years that I've not been because

969
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:44,600
Speaker 1: I've been out of town for some reason family, I

970
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 1: think I'm ever seeing it again. But Frank Raikes called

971
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:50,480
Speaker 1: the Courage Breakfast on May night, so mark that down. Hey, um,

972
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:53,120
Speaker 1: there is news here today at the Combine in Indianapolis.

973
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:57,840
Speaker 1: And it's not just the regular Combine news. The NFL PAH,

974
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:00,319
Speaker 1: the reps of the NFLPA met last night till one

975
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:03,360
Speaker 1: in the morning. They started at five with the owners.

976
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:05,760
Speaker 1: They broke off around nine. They went back into session

977
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:08,640
Speaker 1: just the NFLPA reps, and at about one forty five

978
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:11,200
Speaker 1: this morning, they voted to send the proposed CBA to

979
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 1: the full membership for their approval. Now, they didn't endorse it,

980
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:16,440
Speaker 1: they didn't put their stamp of approval on it. That's

981
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:19,360
Speaker 1: the player reps, nor did the NFL Executive Committee. But

982
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:23,840
Speaker 1: it's going before the It's going before the full membership

983
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 1: of players now about two thousand players. They must a

984
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:29,680
Speaker 1: simple majority must accept the agreement for it to go

985
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:33,560
Speaker 1: into effect next year. That's news, and it's good news

986
00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 1: even though some of us, me included, I think are

987
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:37,840
Speaker 1: looking why would the players take that? Why would they

988
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:40,360
Speaker 1: agree to that? Well, for fans, it's like great news, Right,

989
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:42,560
Speaker 1: there's football. There's gonna be no disruption that they don't

990
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:44,279
Speaker 1: need to worry. Fans don't need to worry about it

991
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:46,440
Speaker 1: too much because it'll just you know, it's about the

992
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:49,359
Speaker 1: players and the things that are important to them as

993
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:51,480
Speaker 1: to whether they're saying, Okay, i'll take this this deal

994
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:55,200
Speaker 1: away it is now, or move one step closer to

995
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 1: having a lockout by the ownership or a strike, work stoppage,

996
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:01,240
Speaker 1: something that will just up their lives as a professional

997
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:04,879
Speaker 1: athlete in a life that is not all that long. Um.

998
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:08,440
Speaker 1: So it's the owners always have that ability and they

999
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:11,400
Speaker 1: kind of have that chip knowing that most careers in

1000
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 1: the NFL are very short and the players don't want

1001
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:15,600
Speaker 1: to sacrifice that many and for those short number of

1002
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:17,759
Speaker 1: years whatever they are, three four years, the guys are

1003
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:19,480
Speaker 1: in the league, they're making more money than they'll make

1004
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 1: any other point the rest of their life most likely. Right. Yeah,

1005
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:24,759
Speaker 1: And it's and that's that that's value, that's really that's

1006
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:26,840
Speaker 1: really true these days now that the you know, the

1007
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:29,880
Speaker 1: salary cap has skyrocketed and begun and continue to do that.

1008
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:32,200
Speaker 1: And it's how much the players are willing to walk

1009
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:35,480
Speaker 1: away from. Certainly the owners, there's something in this, a

1010
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:39,359
Speaker 1: bigger split of the revenues for the players overall, UH

1011
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:42,560
Speaker 1: funding for a couple of different things they've you know,

1012
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:46,160
Speaker 1: they'll continue to fund uh, you know, players safety initiatives

1013
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:49,200
Speaker 1: and all add the research from the helmets and stuff,

1014
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:53,880
Speaker 1: and and and and I get this a lot um people,

1015
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 1: And we don't have much time to talk with this.

1016
00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:57,000
Speaker 1: We've got to get to the break. But you know,

1017
00:45:57,600 --> 00:46:02,280
Speaker 1: don't be don't be. And I'm not a pro ownership

1018
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:06,240
Speaker 1: guy at all, but don't be too quick to dismiss

1019
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:10,359
Speaker 1: the owner's efforts at player's safety. And because listen, it's

1020
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:12,600
Speaker 1: the players. It's not the owners who set a price

1021
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:14,600
Speaker 1: on player's safety. It is the players who set a

1022
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:17,239
Speaker 1: price on player's safety. Let me just clear that up

1023
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:20,160
Speaker 1: right now. It's the players who set the price because

1024
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 1: they're the ones who want to play and take the risks.

1025
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:25,800
Speaker 1: They do not have to sign their contracts. If the

1026
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 1: money is worth it to them, then it's worth it.

1027
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:30,520
Speaker 1: Don't tell me that the owners are making it unsafe

1028
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:32,880
Speaker 1: for you, you can decide not to play walk away.

1029
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:35,200
Speaker 1: And that's why that argument falls flat on his face.

1030
00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:37,040
Speaker 1: The moment you say that, say, well, they're gonna walk

1031
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:40,120
Speaker 1: away from twenty million dollars, You're right, they're not, because

1032
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:43,120
Speaker 1: the risks are well known to the players, if they

1033
00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:45,360
Speaker 1: know what they're getting into, and if they don't, and

1034
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:47,840
Speaker 1: if they think it's unsafe even for a minute. The

1035
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:50,759
Speaker 1: simple fact of the matter is there's three hundred guys

1036
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:53,719
Speaker 1: here at this combine, and there's three hundred thousand out

1037
00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:55,680
Speaker 1: in the regular population in the United States who will

1038
00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:59,240
Speaker 1: gladly take those risks for the money involved. The players

1039
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 1: set the on player's safety, not the owners. Yeah, player's

1040
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:04,440
Speaker 1: safety was not really an issue in the CBA, but

1041
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:07,239
Speaker 1: it's in the background of everything they do. The seventeenth game,

1042
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:10,160
Speaker 1: it was a common It was a common refrain because, hey,

1043
00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:12,239
Speaker 1: if you're giving us more work, it's more risk for us. Yeah,

1044
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:16,200
Speaker 1: well you know, okay, but it's what five percent more

1045
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 1: risk on a in a league where everybody is in. Yeah,

1046
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:24,440
Speaker 1: so it is in for a long haul, So they

1047
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:26,640
Speaker 1: want to play as long as they can, most of them.

1048
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:28,799
Speaker 1: Then there's a couple of guy handful who said Okay,

1049
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:31,200
Speaker 1: I can't do it anymore. Andrew Luck, the guy we

1050
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:33,399
Speaker 1: were just talking about, being one of them. But man,

1051
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:37,319
Speaker 1: oh man, you know it's the players who set that price,

1052
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:40,239
Speaker 1: not the owner. Seventeen game regular season expected to start

1053
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:44,000
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty one, not this year, more roster spots,

1054
00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:47,839
Speaker 1: two more roster spots, shortened preseason. Who can argue with that? Right?

1055
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Speaker 1: Three preseason games, more revenue for the players, Upgraded pension

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00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:54,120
Speaker 1: for former players like yourself. You got an email about that.

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00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:57,279
Speaker 1: I'm involved in that. It's not a life changer for me,

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00:47:57,400 --> 00:47:59,520
Speaker 1: but certainly it helps some me and some other guys.

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Speaker 1: They eliminated They had a twenty five hundred, two hundred

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Speaker 1: and fifty thousand dollars cap on the payment for the

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00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:09,959
Speaker 1: seventeenth game. That's off the table eliminated. So the owners

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00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:12,480
Speaker 1: already approved it, and it's not known when the players

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00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:14,920
Speaker 1: will approve it. It is expected they will, despite the

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00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:17,800
Speaker 1: fact that the Executive Committee voted six to five against

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00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:20,400
Speaker 1: it and there was no recommendation from the thirty two

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Speaker 1: player reps. They just passed it on to the players. Yeah,

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00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:25,200
Speaker 1: so if the majority wants it, which and the majority

1068
00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:26,880
Speaker 1: is made up of the guys you talk about two,

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00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:29,160
Speaker 1: three and four year veterans, it may be more important

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00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:31,040
Speaker 1: for them to keep working than it is to get

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00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:33,560
Speaker 1: an extra percentage point out of the owners or at

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00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:37,880
Speaker 1: whatever else they want out of the owners. And because

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00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:41,600
Speaker 1: you know, the star players have always been the guys

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00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:44,680
Speaker 1: who get taken care of first anyway. And most of

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00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:48,000
Speaker 1: the league is of guys who are on their rookie

1076
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:50,200
Speaker 1: deal forty seven percent of the league anyway, or guys

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00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:53,120
Speaker 1: who are on the their first deal. So it's it's

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00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:55,000
Speaker 1: important to keep that in mind. We're gonna talk about

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00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:57,839
Speaker 1: it in depth with Field Yates will join us here

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00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:00,920
Speaker 1: in Indianapolis at two o'clock today. What else we got

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00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:04,680
Speaker 1: one thirty coming up next hour. Mike Tannenbaum, former general

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00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:07,600
Speaker 1: manager of the Jets and player personnel director of the Dolphins.

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Speaker 1: Coming up after the break here at the top of

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Speaker 1: the hour, Bill's head coach Sean McDermott. He'll talk with

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00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:15,600
Speaker 1: us about the establishing of culture in the Buffalo locker room.

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00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:17,279
Speaker 1: I think after three years, you'd have to say they

1087
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:19,720
Speaker 1: got it done right. I think so two year, two

1088
00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:21,719
Speaker 1: playoff appearances in three years. I think they were right

1089
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:23,279
Speaker 1: where they want and the role of the culture plays

1090
00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:25,319
Speaker 1: for the Bills. Sean McDermott coming up next with us

1091
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:28,360
Speaker 1: here from Indianapolis. Come on back, John Murphy, Steve Tansker.

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Speaker 1: It's one Bill's Line presented by Kalida Health from the

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00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:34,719
Speaker 1: Indianapolis Combine the scouting Combine for the NFL. This is

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00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:46,800
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills Radioffalo Bills Radio Network Stories update. The update

1095
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:49,400
Speaker 1: from the NFL Scouting Combine. Another day for the Bills.

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00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:51,920
Speaker 1: Here on field workout schedule to start tomorrow night. Here

1097
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:54,360
Speaker 1: in Indie Quarterbacks and wide receivers on the field that

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Speaker 1: begins at four pm tomorrow. The Bill's Event talks with

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Speaker 1: former Carolina cornerback Josh Norman. He was just released by

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00:49:59,880 --> 00:50:02,080
Speaker 1: the Redskins a few weeks ago. He's got connections with

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00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:05,360
Speaker 1: Brandon Bean and Sean McDermott from their time together in Carolina.

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Speaker 1: Norman is on the lookout for a new team as

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00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:10,880
Speaker 1: a free agent. GM Brandon Mean says nothing is imminent.

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Speaker 1: The big news coming out of Indie last night, NFL

1105
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:16,399
Speaker 1: moved closer to labor piece as a player rep voted

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Speaker 1: to send the new CBA deal already approved to owners

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Speaker 1: to the entire membership the full union membership, so a

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Speaker 1: simple majority of about two thousand players must accept the

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00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:27,960
Speaker 1: agreement for it to go into effect this year. They

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Speaker 1: met late into the night last night the players did.

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Speaker 1: The vote from the NFL player reps was closed seventeen fourteen,

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Speaker 1: with one exemption. The NFL announcedans move on Twitter at

1113
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Speaker 1: one in the morning. It looks like a seventeen game

1114
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Speaker 1: schedule is as soon as twenty twenty one away. Miami

1115
00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:46,520
Speaker 1: Dolphins are currently locked and loaded fourteen draft picks, including

1116
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:49,879
Speaker 1: three first rounders this year, five within the opening two rounds,

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00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:53,200
Speaker 1: and the Dolphins they're not ruling anything out. That's what

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00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:56,719
Speaker 1: general manager Chris Greers told reporters yesterday. He said he

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00:50:56,760 --> 00:50:59,040
Speaker 1: would not rule out any move, including moving up to

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Speaker 1: number one overall. Says we're wide open to everything. Also

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00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:05,840
Speaker 1: from the combine to attack of Bola, told reporters yesterday

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00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:08,279
Speaker 1: he expects the surgec that there paired to hip that

1123
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:11,239
Speaker 1: he had to be medically cleared by March night. It

1124
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Speaker 1: appearance his test at the NFL's combine back up that notion.

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Speaker 1: The Jets say Levy on Bell, subject of many trade

1126
00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:19,600
Speaker 1: rumors and staying put with the New York Jets that

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00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:21,960
Speaker 1: came out of the combine here yesterday, Sabers on the

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Speaker 1: road trip. Now they played the Colorado Avalanche to night,

1129
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:28,480
Speaker 1: face off at eight o'clock. Uh. The Wayne Simmons joined

1130
00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:31,120
Speaker 1: the team for practice in Buffalo yesterday, skating on the

1131
00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:33,920
Speaker 1: line with Marcus Johanson and Jeff Skinner, Sabers with a

1132
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:36,040
Speaker 1: couple of additions from the trades, and now they take

1133
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:39,040
Speaker 1: on the Colorado Avalanche based off eight o'clock tonight. You

1134
00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:41,160
Speaker 1: can hear it right here on w GR. And that

1135
00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:44,000
Speaker 1: is the update from the NFL scouting Combine in Indie.

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Speaker 1: Oh a great time. Tasper text Textext Welcome back to

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00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:08,600
Speaker 1: the NFL's kind of combat Jammer coach. Coach, good to

1138
00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:10,640
Speaker 1: see you. I haven't seen been a while you guys again. Yeah,

1139
00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:12,719
Speaker 1: you've been around. You've been working though, haven't you've been

1140
00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:14,920
Speaker 1: around the building failment around the building. Yeah, it's been

1141
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:19,040
Speaker 1: it's been uh an active offseason and so uh. You know,

1142
00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:21,600
Speaker 1: our guys mostly most of them are are home right

1143
00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:23,680
Speaker 1: now and um, but we've got a number of guys

1144
00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:25,359
Speaker 1: in our building which is which is great to see

1145
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:27,680
Speaker 1: and it's a credit to the resources we have around

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00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:31,040
Speaker 1: our building. That they're they want to be around this

1147
00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:33,319
Speaker 1: time of year and get some working Yeah, and you've

1148
00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:34,799
Speaker 1: got this is a time of year where you can

1149
00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:36,920
Speaker 1: kind of stop taking deep at least the players anyway,

1150
00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:39,640
Speaker 1: take a deep breath, get one hundred percent again from

1151
00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:41,960
Speaker 1: all little eggs and pains. It coaches too, I mean,

1152
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:43,480
Speaker 1: they get a chance to take a deep breath and

1153
00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:45,719
Speaker 1: then move on to the next thing. And what tell

1154
00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:47,440
Speaker 1: us about turning the page? And when you I mean,

1155
00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:50,440
Speaker 1: I know season ended. You know, only one team gets

1156
00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:52,200
Speaker 1: a happy ending. But you guys got to turn the

1157
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:54,800
Speaker 1: page pretty quick. Well, we do. That's the nature of

1158
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:56,640
Speaker 1: the business. And you take a couple of weeks to

1159
00:52:57,360 --> 00:52:59,360
Speaker 1: just kind of assess where we are, get get our

1160
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:02,279
Speaker 1: feet back on beneath us again, and then really jump

1161
00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:06,520
Speaker 1: into the process going forward of evaluating our roster, which

1162
00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:08,160
Speaker 1: is what we've done the last couple of weeks, and

1163
00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:10,920
Speaker 1: then getting into free agency, evaluating the free agents that

1164
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:14,480
Speaker 1: are potentially out there, and then really setting our strategy

1165
00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:16,800
Speaker 1: for this offseason going into the draft as well. And

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Speaker 1: that's why we're here at the combine. Coach, you mentioned

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00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:21,160
Speaker 1: the players being around. It'll be interesting this offseason I

1168
00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:23,680
Speaker 1: think to see how many come back and work out

1169
00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:25,839
Speaker 1: in Orchard Park? Right the new weight room opened up

1170
00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:27,839
Speaker 1: last April. I think, right now you've got a chance.

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00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:30,359
Speaker 1: The place is open and it's wide open out. Guys

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00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:32,080
Speaker 1: can come back and work out at their leisure now,

1173
00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:34,560
Speaker 1: I think, uh they can, and uh, you know, there

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00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:37,760
Speaker 1: are some guidelines around that parameter set forth by the league.

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00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:40,880
Speaker 1: But overall, we've we've had a number of guys already

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00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:45,760
Speaker 1: back in the building in Orchard Park and using the facility,

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00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:51,400
Speaker 1: using the performance center, if you will, that in the

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00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:54,360
Speaker 1: different resources we have there that the Bagoulas have provided,

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00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:57,839
Speaker 1: and the guys are loving it. And so I'd say

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00:53:57,880 --> 00:54:00,200
Speaker 1: about a third of our team has already been back

1181
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:02,719
Speaker 1: at one point in time, and um and some have

1182
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:05,480
Speaker 1: gone back and forth between home and Orchard Park, which

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00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:07,440
Speaker 1: is good to see to give us an idea of

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00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:09,400
Speaker 1: one of the first things you got to do is

1185
00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:11,279
Speaker 1: evaluate your roster. But you've got a lot of guys

1186
00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:12,719
Speaker 1: that were on one year deals. You got a lot

1187
00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:14,239
Speaker 1: of guys that are at the end of their deals.

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00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:18,680
Speaker 1: You've got, um, the roster, just by the mechanics of

1189
00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:21,200
Speaker 1: it is gonna look very different this next year. And

1190
00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:23,520
Speaker 1: you gotta kind of ramp up for that, right, it's

1191
00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:26,040
Speaker 1: hard to build a team, particularly when you've got a

1192
00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:28,319
Speaker 1: lot of guys that are just probably won't be there

1193
00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:30,200
Speaker 1: just because of the way the league works. Yeah, every

1194
00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:33,360
Speaker 1: year is different, right, as you know, Tasker and just

1195
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:36,799
Speaker 1: you know, it's you want to carry forward as much

1196
00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:38,200
Speaker 1: as you can for a year to year, and we

1197
00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:41,000
Speaker 1: try and do that. But there's a there's a point

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00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:43,840
Speaker 1: of just from a from a approach standpoint of flushing

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Speaker 1: last year, last year was last year, and last year

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00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:48,840
Speaker 1: was last year's team and then us moving on and

1201
00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:52,120
Speaker 1: moving forward and saying listen, hey, okay, what do we

1202
00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:55,759
Speaker 1: need to do to take another step? And then also

1203
00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:59,120
Speaker 1: just understanding you don't start with ten wins going into

1204
00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:02,280
Speaker 1: this season, so you got to start from from square

1205
00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:05,040
Speaker 1: one again and then build it again. I mean, it's

1206
00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:07,400
Speaker 1: when you build a team, you've got to build it

1207
00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:10,000
Speaker 1: the right way. And it's adding pieces and if we

1208
00:55:10,080 --> 00:55:12,240
Speaker 1: add one piece, what does that mean to the overall

1209
00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:15,440
Speaker 1: group that's already in the locker room and how that

1210
00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:20,120
Speaker 1: affects the dynamic. And so we're very particular about who

1211
00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:24,359
Speaker 1: we add when we add them. And so because we're

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Speaker 1: very guarded of our locker room and the core players

1213
00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:28,160
Speaker 1: that we have in there. You're going into your fourth

1214
00:55:28,239 --> 00:55:30,160
Speaker 1: year and you're at your fourth combine, do you feel

1215
00:55:30,160 --> 00:55:32,600
Speaker 1: as if, with all that being said, you have established

1216
00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:35,120
Speaker 1: and build a foundation of the type of team you

1217
00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:38,040
Speaker 1: want through three years here? Yeah, I believe so. Brandon

1218
00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:40,200
Speaker 1: has has really done a great job with his staff

1219
00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:44,080
Speaker 1: and helping helping us build. And that's important to have

1220
00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:48,720
Speaker 1: coaches who understand and the continuity now with the coaches

1221
00:55:48,920 --> 00:55:53,359
Speaker 1: is important, but also having just as important as having

1222
00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:56,279
Speaker 1: a personnel staff that can that knows what you want,

1223
00:55:56,320 --> 00:55:59,040
Speaker 1: what you're looking for, and can feed you the players

1224
00:55:59,080 --> 00:56:01,359
Speaker 1: that you need. If not, you're you're really drinking from

1225
00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:05,480
Speaker 1: a from a dry dry holes. You know, really nothing's coming.

1226
00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:07,200
Speaker 1: If you know you can coach them, but nothing's coming,

1227
00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:09,920
Speaker 1: you're not getting the guys added in. So we've been

1228
00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:13,239
Speaker 1: able to add players not only through free agency like

1229
00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:16,560
Speaker 1: last year, but also you know, some waiver wire claims

1230
00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:18,640
Speaker 1: here and there, and and then you know, you look

1231
00:56:18,640 --> 00:56:20,560
Speaker 1: at what we've been able to do just in the draft,

1232
00:56:20,680 --> 00:56:23,120
Speaker 1: what Brandon his staff and been able to do UM

1233
00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:25,960
Speaker 1: has been has been very good for us. UM They

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00:56:26,120 --> 00:56:28,760
Speaker 1: hitting on those early picks has been has been important

1235
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:30,440
Speaker 1: for us, and so that's that's been big. So you

1236
00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:32,480
Speaker 1: start again kind of building up, and he starts at

1237
00:56:32,520 --> 00:56:35,239
Speaker 1: the combine here in in February. You kind of start

1238
00:56:35,239 --> 00:56:37,200
Speaker 1: to get a look at these things, and people come

1239
00:56:37,239 --> 00:56:38,719
Speaker 1: in and say, hey, that's the guy I want, and

1240
00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:42,440
Speaker 1: people start to pick favorites as fans. But for the staff,

1241
00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:46,680
Speaker 1: you and Brandon to his depth, it's more about disqualifying guys, right,

1242
00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:49,360
Speaker 1: I mean, it's about like going to no, no, okay,

1243
00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:51,960
Speaker 1: maybe kind of like that, right, what what are some

1244
00:56:52,040 --> 00:56:54,280
Speaker 1: of the disqualifiers you kind of see in this generation

1245
00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:56,640
Speaker 1: of new players that come out? That's I mean, I

1246
00:56:56,719 --> 00:56:59,320
Speaker 1: hate you know, you generalize everybody's every kid's different, But

1247
00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:02,840
Speaker 1: is there, you know, with the baby with the whatever,

1248
00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:06,440
Speaker 1: the gen x Y, gen x whatever, whatever whatever this

1249
00:57:06,640 --> 00:57:09,960
Speaker 1: generation is called. Is there a generalizing disqualifier that you

1250
00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:12,879
Speaker 1: see that makes them different? There are? I mean, you're right, Steve.

1251
00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:14,800
Speaker 1: You look at things and you say, hey, I know

1252
00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:16,760
Speaker 1: what we want, but I also know what we don't want.

1253
00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:20,040
Speaker 1: One guy certainly can't make a team, but one guy

1254
00:57:20,120 --> 00:57:22,360
Speaker 1: can break a team, and so you don't want that.

1255
00:57:22,560 --> 00:57:24,760
Speaker 1: And so the things when you and our scouts do

1256
00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:27,000
Speaker 1: a really good job. I've got a bunch of I'm

1257
00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:28,880
Speaker 1: sitting at the Wagins a few minutes ago. I've got

1258
00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:30,840
Speaker 1: all the background for each player in front of me.

1259
00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:33,360
Speaker 1: They're up there, they're getting way, they're getting measured, and

1260
00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:36,600
Speaker 1: I can quickly look at their background and and and

1261
00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:40,880
Speaker 1: look at things that stand out from habits and some

1262
00:57:41,080 --> 00:57:44,040
Speaker 1: of the character traits of these young men, and and

1263
00:57:44,160 --> 00:57:46,280
Speaker 1: you can say, hey, okay, I'm I'm going to continue

1264
00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:49,160
Speaker 1: to watch and evaluate this player and take down the

1265
00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:53,240
Speaker 1: measurables because I'm ment interested based on the background. And

1266
00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:55,439
Speaker 1: then there's guys where you read the background and you're saying,

1267
00:57:55,520 --> 00:57:57,680
Speaker 1: no way, no way, does he fit in what we're doing.

1268
00:57:58,040 --> 00:58:00,240
Speaker 1: And so you really really for me the us that

1269
00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:03,280
Speaker 1: stops there, um, And so you don't want to be

1270
00:58:03,320 --> 00:58:05,280
Speaker 1: closed minded. But at the same time, you also know

1271
00:58:05,360 --> 00:58:07,440
Speaker 1: what you're looking for, and I think we've established that

1272
00:58:07,520 --> 00:58:10,000
Speaker 1: around the building. Murth to your point earlier and your

1273
00:58:10,080 --> 00:58:13,760
Speaker 1: question of what exactly it is, we're about the culture

1274
00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:16,840
Speaker 1: we're trying to continue to build and and the standard

1275
00:58:16,880 --> 00:58:19,560
Speaker 1: of performance that we expect around the building on a

1276
00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:21,960
Speaker 1: daily basis. I wonder do you feel as if in

1277
00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:25,120
Speaker 1: your first three years, you have established established a culture.

1278
00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:27,680
Speaker 1: When you came, you started, you talked about establishing a culture,

1279
00:58:27,720 --> 00:58:30,560
Speaker 1: and some people didn't take that seriously. U And by

1280
00:58:30,600 --> 00:58:32,680
Speaker 1: the way, we always did. But there were people saying

1281
00:58:32,720 --> 00:58:35,120
Speaker 1: you are you're saying you and Steve No, we always

1282
00:58:35,160 --> 00:58:39,400
Speaker 1: took it language. You know, you know better than that,

1283
00:58:39,520 --> 00:58:42,520
Speaker 1: because you know, I loved it culture and I think

1284
00:58:42,520 --> 00:58:45,000
Speaker 1: it's really really important. And but there were people who

1285
00:58:45,200 --> 00:58:49,200
Speaker 1: up it meant anything. There are people who don't understand it.

1286
00:58:49,480 --> 00:58:52,480
Speaker 1: And now three years later, well have you have you

1287
00:58:52,560 --> 00:58:55,560
Speaker 1: established a culture? We have, um. But having said that,

1288
00:58:55,760 --> 00:58:57,960
Speaker 1: you have to continue. You have to continue to grow

1289
00:58:58,080 --> 00:59:00,480
Speaker 1: it right because if if you don't manage, it's going

1290
00:59:00,520 --> 00:59:03,560
Speaker 1: to grow up in the forms of weeds and whatnot.

1291
00:59:03,600 --> 00:59:05,760
Speaker 1: So you've got to continue to farm it um and

1292
00:59:06,200 --> 00:59:09,160
Speaker 1: cultivate it and do the right things about it, continuing

1293
00:59:09,240 --> 00:59:11,720
Speaker 1: to build it um. But yeah, I think that you know,

1294
00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:14,439
Speaker 1: that word culture gets used a lot, and sometimes maybe

1295
00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:17,320
Speaker 1: irresponsibly so and I and I give you know, the

1296
00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:20,320
Speaker 1: people in our building the benefit of the doubt. Early on,

1297
00:59:20,440 --> 00:59:22,840
Speaker 1: they probably said, oh, here we go again, here's another coach.

1298
00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:26,000
Speaker 1: We've heard this this song and dance before. But I'll

1299
00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:27,280
Speaker 1: tell you I've been able to add a lot of

1300
00:59:27,360 --> 00:59:30,800
Speaker 1: great people around me, and we've together have collectively with

1301
00:59:31,040 --> 00:59:33,479
Speaker 1: with your guys help as well, been able to build

1302
00:59:33,520 --> 00:59:35,840
Speaker 1: a culture in our building that I think we can

1303
00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:38,600
Speaker 1: win with. It's it's a foundation that's been built, and

1304
00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:42,440
Speaker 1: it really comes back to everyone understands and knows the

1305
00:59:42,520 --> 00:59:45,840
Speaker 1: expectations and so really the expectation is to come in

1306
00:59:45,880 --> 00:59:47,240
Speaker 1: and do your job and do your job to the

1307
00:59:47,280 --> 00:59:50,440
Speaker 1: best of your ability, and um, that's what we do.

1308
00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:51,960
Speaker 1: So I want to ask you about one game in

1309
00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:54,840
Speaker 1: particular who won't be back Lorenzo Alexander. He seemed to

1310
00:59:54,920 --> 00:59:57,880
Speaker 1: me like a key culture player, right, a building block

1311
00:59:57,920 --> 01:00:00,600
Speaker 1: of your culture at three years, I'm over two right now, right,

1312
01:00:01,080 --> 01:00:04,360
Speaker 1: Kyle Wams and Lorenzo. Um, each year we have a

1313
01:00:04,440 --> 01:00:07,680
Speaker 1: guy that wants to retire. I don't know if that Eric, Well,

1314
01:00:07,840 --> 01:00:10,240
Speaker 1: so the name O for three then, right, I just

1315
01:00:10,360 --> 01:00:13,440
Speaker 1: forced guys into retirement. I guess you know, uh, not

1316
01:00:13,520 --> 01:00:16,280
Speaker 1: a good track rend. But how do you replace a

1317
01:00:16,320 --> 01:00:18,520
Speaker 1: guy like Lorenzo? Yeah, yeah, I don't think you do,

1318
01:00:18,920 --> 01:00:21,520
Speaker 1: or if you know, it's it's uh, you scratch your

1319
01:00:21,600 --> 01:00:23,160
Speaker 1: head and just say, man, I just wish I could

1320
01:00:23,160 --> 01:00:25,200
Speaker 1: get Kyle back. I wish, I wish we could get

1321
01:00:25,480 --> 01:00:29,400
Speaker 1: Lorenzo and Eric back, just because of what great additions

1322
01:00:29,480 --> 01:00:32,480
Speaker 1: they were from a from a culture standpoint and from

1323
01:00:32,560 --> 01:00:36,000
Speaker 1: a from a leadership standpoint. And that's those those types

1324
01:00:36,040 --> 01:00:38,880
Speaker 1: of of of men, and and they're types of those

1325
01:00:38,920 --> 01:00:42,520
Speaker 1: types of leadership, those types of leaders are hard to replace,

1326
01:00:43,200 --> 01:00:45,480
Speaker 1: um and that's an important piece of our culture is

1327
01:00:45,560 --> 01:00:47,960
Speaker 1: that is that leadership in the locker room. Right. One

1328
01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:49,480
Speaker 1: of the things that's different about this year, and that's

1329
01:00:49,520 --> 01:00:51,360
Speaker 1: one of the things I think that attracts guys to

1330
01:00:51,520 --> 01:00:53,680
Speaker 1: coaching is no year is different. It's all new and

1331
01:00:53,760 --> 01:00:56,200
Speaker 1: kind of fresh. And this year, you know, you look

1332
01:00:56,200 --> 01:00:57,520
Speaker 1: at last year what you had to You kind of

1333
01:00:57,520 --> 01:00:59,320
Speaker 1: had to rebuild one side of the football. You had

1334
01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:01,760
Speaker 1: nine new star from Week seventeen to week one of

1335
01:01:01,800 --> 01:01:04,600
Speaker 1: the next season. This year, it's not about rebuilding. It's

1336
01:01:04,600 --> 01:01:08,400
Speaker 1: more about replenishing, kind of honing in and trying to,

1337
01:01:08,520 --> 01:01:12,080
Speaker 1: you know, kind of just take another step. And it's

1338
01:01:12,120 --> 01:01:16,040
Speaker 1: a different offseason than we've seen you and Brandon go through,

1339
01:01:16,160 --> 01:01:19,160
Speaker 1: where you're gonna have start thinking about resigning guys like Tredavious,

1340
01:01:19,240 --> 01:01:21,800
Speaker 1: thinking about signing guys like Matt Milano. There's some guys

1341
01:01:21,840 --> 01:01:23,320
Speaker 1: that you want to be a part of the team

1342
01:01:24,440 --> 01:01:26,640
Speaker 1: and you've never had that really before, except for guys

1343
01:01:26,720 --> 01:01:29,040
Speaker 1: like Kyle and Lorenzo and those kind of guys. But

1344
01:01:29,080 --> 01:01:31,200
Speaker 1: you're talking about building block players on the field who

1345
01:01:31,240 --> 01:01:33,800
Speaker 1: are young getting into their second contract. It's a different

1346
01:01:33,880 --> 01:01:35,640
Speaker 1: kind of offseason for you guys this year. Well, and

1347
01:01:35,760 --> 01:01:37,880
Speaker 1: we want to build through the draft, and so and

1348
01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:40,479
Speaker 1: so steve to your point of being able to build

1349
01:01:40,560 --> 01:01:44,920
Speaker 1: through the draft, acquire good players, develop those young players

1350
01:01:45,000 --> 01:01:47,760
Speaker 1: in the case of mad and Tredavius and many others,

1351
01:01:47,840 --> 01:01:51,560
Speaker 1: now that we've been able to acquire, developing them, and

1352
01:01:51,640 --> 01:01:56,720
Speaker 1: then trying to make them builds for the duration or

1353
01:01:56,760 --> 01:01:59,640
Speaker 1: as long as we can of their careers, growing our own,

1354
01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:02,320
Speaker 1: so to speak. And and that's where you get the

1355
01:02:02,360 --> 01:02:05,200
Speaker 1: biggest return on your investment. And so we want to

1356
01:02:05,240 --> 01:02:07,280
Speaker 1: be able to do that. And that's a that's an

1357
01:02:07,320 --> 01:02:10,440
Speaker 1: important part uh for our locker room as well. And

1358
01:02:10,480 --> 01:02:13,080
Speaker 1: the message that sends to our players in that locker

1359
01:02:13,160 --> 01:02:16,280
Speaker 1: room that we value you. We value the way you've

1360
01:02:16,320 --> 01:02:19,800
Speaker 1: performed um and the way you've handled your business on

1361
01:02:20,000 --> 01:02:23,480
Speaker 1: and off the field. And so that's an important piece

1362
01:02:23,520 --> 01:02:27,000
Speaker 1: of our philosophy, Brandon and my philosophy. As we've continued

1363
01:02:27,040 --> 01:02:29,080
Speaker 1: before talking with head coach Sean McDermott here at the

1364
01:02:29,120 --> 01:02:31,520
Speaker 1: Combine and Indian, you're here to look at players. We

1365
01:02:31,880 --> 01:02:34,800
Speaker 1: mentioned how you need to replace um Lorenzo Alexander as

1366
01:02:34,840 --> 01:02:36,800
Speaker 1: a leader. Do you feel like you need linebackers too?

1367
01:02:36,840 --> 01:02:38,840
Speaker 1: I mean, you look at the linebackers this offseason, either

1368
01:02:38,920 --> 01:02:41,960
Speaker 1: free agency or in this draft. Yeah, we can. There's

1369
01:02:42,000 --> 01:02:43,800
Speaker 1: Brandon now, So we'll just continue to add, you know,

1370
01:02:43,880 --> 01:02:46,640
Speaker 1: as many players. We need a lot of players. You

1371
01:02:46,720 --> 01:02:48,400
Speaker 1: hear that a lot of players. You need a lot

1372
01:02:48,440 --> 01:02:51,920
Speaker 1: of players, Yeah, a lot of help. You know, we've got,

1373
01:02:51,960 --> 01:02:54,280
Speaker 1: We do have a we've got. What I like is

1374
01:02:54,320 --> 01:02:57,400
Speaker 1: we've got a really good core group of players that

1375
01:02:57,720 --> 01:03:01,240
Speaker 1: absolutely understand what we're looking for. And so you know

1376
01:03:01,320 --> 01:03:04,000
Speaker 1: what I love about that is when we do add

1377
01:03:04,120 --> 01:03:06,840
Speaker 1: new players. And that's true every year, you know, through

1378
01:03:06,920 --> 01:03:11,680
Speaker 1: different through different ways of adding, draft, free agency, the

1379
01:03:11,880 --> 01:03:15,000
Speaker 1: players in our locker room can explain to the new players, hey,

1380
01:03:15,040 --> 01:03:17,280
Speaker 1: this is how it is here. And so that helps

1381
01:03:17,880 --> 01:03:21,280
Speaker 1: make my job easier from getting everybody up to speed

1382
01:03:22,000 --> 01:03:24,120
Speaker 1: a lot quicker when they get into our building. Whether

1383
01:03:24,160 --> 01:03:26,919
Speaker 1: it's again via the draft or free agency or through

1384
01:03:26,920 --> 01:03:28,760
Speaker 1: the other ways that we can add players. So how

1385
01:03:28,960 --> 01:03:30,920
Speaker 1: it's this year, I mean last year had a top

1386
01:03:30,960 --> 01:03:33,880
Speaker 1: ten pick at Oliver kind of fell down to It

1387
01:03:34,000 --> 01:03:37,080
Speaker 1: was really a guy who a year before that draft thought, man,

1388
01:03:37,160 --> 01:03:38,640
Speaker 1: he's a top five pick, and he fell all the

1389
01:03:38,680 --> 01:03:40,280
Speaker 1: way to you at number nine. I'm is awesome and

1390
01:03:40,560 --> 01:03:42,600
Speaker 1: you got this guy and he through the first horse.

1391
01:03:42,720 --> 01:03:45,920
Speaker 1: You know, now you're picking twenty two. How fluid do

1392
01:03:46,000 --> 01:03:48,000
Speaker 1: you kind of have to say when when you're back

1393
01:03:48,080 --> 01:03:50,080
Speaker 1: that far in the first round of the draft, because

1394
01:03:50,120 --> 01:03:51,720
Speaker 1: you were in the playoffs, you got a good team

1395
01:03:51,800 --> 01:03:54,600
Speaker 1: already in the parody and you know, I mean how

1396
01:03:55,400 --> 01:03:57,040
Speaker 1: I mean you got to kind of line your ducks up,

1397
01:03:57,120 --> 01:03:59,000
Speaker 1: be kind of ready for anything because teams behind you,

1398
01:03:59,080 --> 01:04:00,880
Speaker 1: teams ahead of you all will do different things. And

1399
01:04:00,960 --> 01:04:04,160
Speaker 1: how unpredictable it becomes outside the first two or three picks. Yeah,

1400
01:04:04,200 --> 01:04:07,440
Speaker 1: So last night we were in in uh interviews and

1401
01:04:07,560 --> 01:04:09,800
Speaker 1: meetings with some of the players last night up until

1402
01:04:09,800 --> 01:04:14,400
Speaker 1: about eleven o'clock, and we met some really really fantastic

1403
01:04:14,520 --> 01:04:16,840
Speaker 1: young man and who are really good players on the field.

1404
01:04:16,880 --> 01:04:19,600
Speaker 1: And so me just early on in my process with

1405
01:04:19,720 --> 01:04:22,480
Speaker 1: the draft and these this group of players, I don't

1406
01:04:22,520 --> 01:04:24,880
Speaker 1: know them all as well as Brandon does. And so

1407
01:04:25,040 --> 01:04:26,840
Speaker 1: we stood up and after one of the interviews and

1408
01:04:26,880 --> 01:04:28,560
Speaker 1: I said, where do you think you know this player

1409
01:04:28,680 --> 01:04:30,840
Speaker 1: is gonna go? And Brandon said he'll probably be, you know,

1410
01:04:30,920 --> 01:04:32,640
Speaker 1: a top five And I said, all right, well, hey,

1411
01:04:32,920 --> 01:04:35,600
Speaker 1: I trust you, um, I know you like to trade,

1412
01:04:35,680 --> 01:04:39,400
Speaker 1: so let's get it going. No pressure, right there, no pressure,

1413
01:04:39,480 --> 01:04:41,560
Speaker 1: let's get it done. So there's a let me just

1414
01:04:41,640 --> 01:04:43,720
Speaker 1: put you on the spot. There's a number of players

1415
01:04:44,280 --> 01:04:49,400
Speaker 1: who you covet enough to jump up and get and

1416
01:04:49,640 --> 01:04:52,200
Speaker 1: however along that, however far that jump is, right, I mean,

1417
01:04:52,240 --> 01:04:54,439
Speaker 1: they're always yeah, I mean there's always you always want,

1418
01:04:54,600 --> 01:04:57,760
Speaker 1: which sometimes bigger. The bigger that number, the easier it

1419
01:04:57,880 --> 01:04:59,640
Speaker 1: is to jump for one of them. Yeah. Yeah, I

1420
01:04:59,720 --> 01:05:03,160
Speaker 1: mean the more depth it's like supplying demand, right, the

1421
01:05:03,280 --> 01:05:05,760
Speaker 1: more houses that are on the market, the better your

1422
01:05:05,960 --> 01:05:09,200
Speaker 1: your buying ability is. And so, um, where we sit

1423
01:05:09,240 --> 01:05:11,160
Speaker 1: at twenty two, we still feel like we're gonna get

1424
01:05:11,160 --> 01:05:12,720
Speaker 1: a good player. There's a lot of good players in

1425
01:05:12,760 --> 01:05:15,360
Speaker 1: this draft and it's, uh, it's a deep draft in

1426
01:05:15,400 --> 01:05:17,800
Speaker 1: a lot of ways. From what Brandon has shared with

1427
01:05:17,920 --> 01:05:21,120
Speaker 1: me and especially had some key positions of need for us.

1428
01:05:21,200 --> 01:05:24,000
Speaker 1: So that's that's that's encouraging moving forward. How do you

1429
01:05:24,080 --> 01:05:26,360
Speaker 1: like this new schedule at the Combine with the workouts

1430
01:05:26,400 --> 01:05:29,280
Speaker 1: in late afternoon and evening. I'm a routine guy, so

1431
01:05:29,640 --> 01:05:34,360
Speaker 1: I'm adjusting. Um, you know, I'm murphus too. He's struggling. Yeah,

1432
01:05:34,440 --> 01:05:36,800
Speaker 1: are you no, I'm We're gonna we gotta, we gotta

1433
01:05:36,800 --> 01:05:38,680
Speaker 1: give it a chance. Um, I do. I do think

1434
01:05:38,760 --> 01:05:41,640
Speaker 1: it's obviously, I think every year it's it's been fascinating

1435
01:05:41,720 --> 01:05:45,360
Speaker 1: to me to watch every year that I've been here, Um,

1436
01:05:45,720 --> 01:05:48,840
Speaker 1: how the how the combine process has evolved and to

1437
01:05:48,960 --> 01:05:52,480
Speaker 1: where it is now, and what a what a production

1438
01:05:52,600 --> 01:05:54,880
Speaker 1: this is, right, I mean, it's it used to be,

1439
01:05:54,920 --> 01:05:56,560
Speaker 1: as we were talking before we came on the air

1440
01:05:56,640 --> 01:05:58,480
Speaker 1: about it used to be a lot of meat on

1441
01:05:58,520 --> 01:06:00,640
Speaker 1: the bone, and that's still the case. But it was

1442
01:06:00,760 --> 01:06:03,560
Speaker 1: very just about the process, what you needed. You came

1443
01:06:03,600 --> 01:06:05,960
Speaker 1: out here and you flew back, and now it's you

1444
01:06:06,080 --> 01:06:08,240
Speaker 1: look around us, and we're in this big convention center

1445
01:06:08,280 --> 01:06:10,880
Speaker 1: and there's a lot of cameras and um, there's a

1446
01:06:10,960 --> 01:06:12,680
Speaker 1: lot of other stuff that goes on here as well.

1447
01:06:12,800 --> 01:06:14,720
Speaker 1: There's a couple of teams who have actually started to

1448
01:06:14,800 --> 01:06:17,360
Speaker 1: leave some of their coaching staff behind because it does

1449
01:06:18,520 --> 01:06:20,000
Speaker 1: it is a little bit of an assembly line, and

1450
01:06:20,040 --> 01:06:22,360
Speaker 1: there's you know, and for those coaches, and I know

1451
01:06:22,440 --> 01:06:25,160
Speaker 1: you're one of them, you get what you need off

1452
01:06:25,200 --> 01:06:28,120
Speaker 1: the film and the numbers are what they are. You

1453
01:06:28,120 --> 01:06:32,080
Speaker 1: don't need to lay eyes on this guy. Is that

1454
01:06:32,480 --> 01:06:35,520
Speaker 1: evolving towards just sending more of a skeleton crew for

1455
01:06:35,640 --> 01:06:37,840
Speaker 1: some of these teams. Obviously they're getting some of them

1456
01:06:37,880 --> 01:06:39,680
Speaker 1: are moving away from it. Yeah, you know, I think

1457
01:06:39,720 --> 01:06:41,960
Speaker 1: everyone Steve has their own reason for doing what in

1458
01:06:42,040 --> 01:06:45,280
Speaker 1: those in those cases those teams, did you know overall

1459
01:06:45,320 --> 01:06:47,920
Speaker 1: there's nothing in your right you can get on tape,

1460
01:06:48,480 --> 01:06:50,760
Speaker 1: the workout, you can see on tape, the player on

1461
01:06:50,840 --> 01:06:52,720
Speaker 1: the grass, But which you can't get is you can't

1462
01:06:53,000 --> 01:06:55,720
Speaker 1: sit across from the player and get to understand them

1463
01:06:55,760 --> 01:06:58,720
Speaker 1: as as a person and what has motivated them to

1464
01:06:58,760 --> 01:07:01,000
Speaker 1: get to them to where they are here, and even

1465
01:07:01,080 --> 01:07:03,800
Speaker 1: ask them about some things, maybe some glitches in their

1466
01:07:04,200 --> 01:07:06,360
Speaker 1: in their background that has come up that you just

1467
01:07:06,440 --> 01:07:08,520
Speaker 1: want to get a better feel for and drilled down on.

1468
01:07:08,680 --> 01:07:11,240
Speaker 1: And and so I think that piece, uh, that's a

1469
01:07:11,320 --> 01:07:14,000
Speaker 1: critical piece that I think you don't get if you're

1470
01:07:14,040 --> 01:07:16,760
Speaker 1: not here, especially with the number of players that are here.

1471
01:07:16,760 --> 01:07:18,680
Speaker 1: So I'm the last thing I have for you. It's

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Speaker 1: a scheduled question in general, like your off season schedule.

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Speaker 1: Where are you? What do you want to tell us about,

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Speaker 1: you know, offseason workouts for players and camps and that

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Speaker 1: sort of thing. We're well, we're excited about where we are.

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Speaker 1: We've made a lot of good progress this offseason. Again,

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Speaker 1: we're at a different point this offseason, murph than where

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Speaker 1: we were last year this time, and we feel like

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Speaker 1: we're further along in our growth, in our growth cycle

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Speaker 1: and so um and that's a credit to everyone in

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01:07:44,600 --> 01:07:47,360
Speaker 1: our building and uh and so we're excited about where

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Speaker 1: we're going as an organization. I think there's exciting times

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Speaker 1: ahead and a lot of ways for us. And now

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01:07:53,200 --> 01:07:55,920
Speaker 1: what's what's ahead for us now is really embark on

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01:07:56,560 --> 01:07:59,120
Speaker 1: the beginning of free agency in the weeks that we

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01:07:59,240 --> 01:08:03,880
Speaker 1: get back and really finalize and really strategize our our

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01:08:04,000 --> 01:08:07,040
Speaker 1: final thoughts on that period in time, and then getting

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Speaker 1: into the draft. I mean the coaches will be starting

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01:08:08,800 --> 01:08:11,640
Speaker 1: the fly to different college campuses and make sure we

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01:08:11,720 --> 01:08:14,960
Speaker 1: have the right evaluations on these players and so again

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01:08:15,040 --> 01:08:16,960
Speaker 1: that the goal here at the end of the day,

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Speaker 1: at the end of these next three to four months,

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Speaker 1: is that we come out of this uh time period

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Speaker 1: where we can add players and also practice once we

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01:08:25,400 --> 01:08:28,200
Speaker 1: get back into you know, May, June and whatnot in July,

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Speaker 1: that we can be a better football team than than

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Speaker 1: what left X amount of months ago. Last thing I've

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Speaker 1: got for you. In a perfect scenario, how much differently

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Speaker 1: will your draft outlook be after free agency hits In

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Speaker 1: a perfect yeah, well, in a perfect world, we can

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Speaker 1: go into the into the draft and we can look

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01:08:47,040 --> 01:08:48,840
Speaker 1: up at the board and Brandon can say, you know what,

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01:08:48,960 --> 01:08:52,640
Speaker 1: we really don't have a glaring need right, Um, you

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01:08:52,760 --> 01:08:55,599
Speaker 1: really don't want to be shopping hungry as you look

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01:08:55,720 --> 01:08:57,720
Speaker 1: as you sit, you know, in the minutes leading up

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Speaker 1: to the draft. That's that's not really an event Age's

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01:09:00,800 --> 01:09:03,120
Speaker 1: position to be in. And so every year is different.

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01:09:03,439 --> 01:09:05,680
Speaker 1: Sometimes it doesn't work out where you can't where you're

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01:09:05,680 --> 01:09:07,560
Speaker 1: gonna be in that situation, and we've been in that

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01:09:07,680 --> 01:09:10,000
Speaker 1: situation in a couple of years as we tried to

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01:09:10,040 --> 01:09:12,120
Speaker 1: get some things straight here with the salary cap and

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01:09:12,720 --> 01:09:15,120
Speaker 1: whatnot with some of the needs. But you know, overall,

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01:09:15,160 --> 01:09:17,040
Speaker 1: I think we're getting it to the point where we

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Speaker 1: hope we can be in that situation, uh, leading up

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Speaker 1: to the draft. Thanks Sean, Thanks, yeah, good joy your time. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: thanks for head coach Sean McDermott. This is One Goes

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Speaker 1: Live from the NFL Scounting Combine in Indie. This is

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill's reful welcome back to the Indian Abolis Scounting

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Speaker 1: Combine for One does Live. John Murphy, Steve Tasker. Our

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Speaker 1: guest is in the middle here. Mike Cannabam twenty four

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01:09:47,760 --> 01:09:51,080
Speaker 1: years of experience as an NFL front office insider, former

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01:09:51,160 --> 01:09:54,519
Speaker 1: gym or the Jets, former executive vice president Football Operations

1523
01:09:54,560 --> 01:09:57,760
Speaker 1: for the Dolphins, now in front office insider for ESPN. Mike,

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01:09:57,800 --> 01:10:00,559
Speaker 1: thanks for coming by, God to be with, appreciate coming by.

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01:10:00,560 --> 01:10:02,960
Speaker 1: It's good to see you. We were We had Brandon

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01:10:03,000 --> 01:10:04,800
Speaker 1: being on the show yesterday and we're kind of kidding him,

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01:10:04,800 --> 01:10:07,320
Speaker 1: but I think it's true. His season starts today really

1528
01:10:07,360 --> 01:10:09,200
Speaker 1: at the combine. For GMS, this is big, right, this

1529
01:10:09,320 --> 01:10:11,880
Speaker 1: is it. It actually starts probably the Sunday night after

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01:10:11,920 --> 01:10:14,479
Speaker 1: the last game. It really you're dealing with your coaching

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01:10:14,520 --> 01:10:17,320
Speaker 1: staff asap, and you know they had guys like Brian

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01:10:17,400 --> 01:10:20,200
Speaker 1: day ball interview for the Cleveland Brown's job, and you're

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01:10:20,240 --> 01:10:21,840
Speaker 1: sitting there and you have to sit there with coach

1534
01:10:21,920 --> 01:10:25,040
Speaker 1: McDermot say like, okay, if this happens, who's up next?

1535
01:10:25,120 --> 01:10:28,760
Speaker 1: And is that coach under contract? And so this is

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01:10:28,800 --> 01:10:30,880
Speaker 1: the next step for branding Bean and his staff. But

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01:10:30,960 --> 01:10:32,880
Speaker 1: it really starts right after the last game. And how

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01:10:32,920 --> 01:10:35,360
Speaker 1: long did it take you or your experience to close

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01:10:35,439 --> 01:10:36,960
Speaker 1: the book on last year because you gotta bring a

1540
01:10:36,960 --> 01:10:40,080
Speaker 1: lot of you know, players obviously in contracts, but also

1541
01:10:40,280 --> 01:10:42,400
Speaker 1: new knowledge about what your players did for you who

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01:10:42,479 --> 01:10:45,200
Speaker 1: you want to bring back closing the book on that season.

1543
01:10:45,240 --> 01:10:47,360
Speaker 1: How long does that take? Yes, Steve, that's a great question.

1544
01:10:47,400 --> 01:10:49,040
Speaker 1: We used to wait a couple of weeks just so

1545
01:10:49,600 --> 01:10:51,280
Speaker 1: to cool off and we can look at the players

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01:10:51,360 --> 01:10:54,840
Speaker 1: objectively and not just overreact or underreact based on that

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01:10:55,000 --> 01:10:57,120
Speaker 1: last game and say like, okay, over the course of

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01:10:57,160 --> 01:10:59,040
Speaker 1: the sixty game season, with this player going up, was

1549
01:10:59,080 --> 01:11:01,880
Speaker 1: this player going down? And I think one of the

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01:11:01,960 --> 01:11:05,120
Speaker 1: most underrated aspects of team building in pro football is

1551
01:11:05,160 --> 01:11:08,680
Speaker 1: to thoroughly and correctly evaluate your own right And you

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01:11:08,800 --> 01:11:10,720
Speaker 1: did that right after the season ended or a couple

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01:11:10,760 --> 01:11:12,439
Speaker 1: of weeks. Yeah, we wait a couple of weeks and

1554
01:11:12,439 --> 01:11:15,320
Speaker 1: then say like, okay, here's who's coming back, here's contractually

1555
01:11:15,400 --> 01:11:17,600
Speaker 1: who we have to address within reason. This is how

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01:11:17,640 --> 01:11:19,519
Speaker 1: much tue we're gonna have under the cap, This is

1557
01:11:19,560 --> 01:11:21,360
Speaker 1: where we could be aggressive, this is where we're gonna

1558
01:11:21,400 --> 01:11:24,000
Speaker 1: probably have to develop from within. And then we're gonna

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01:11:24,040 --> 01:11:26,240
Speaker 1: sit there and we would have two buckets basically guys.

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01:11:26,280 --> 01:11:28,240
Speaker 1: We would have muss guys that we have to have

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01:11:28,360 --> 01:11:30,920
Speaker 1: we can't operate the franchise without. And then the position

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01:11:30,960 --> 01:11:32,880
Speaker 1: of needs where we want to add Why is that

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01:11:32,960 --> 01:11:34,680
Speaker 1: difficult to assess at the end of the year though,

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01:11:34,720 --> 01:11:36,280
Speaker 1: just people that want to spend it their own way,

1565
01:11:36,400 --> 01:11:38,240
Speaker 1: or well, I think you want to be objective and say,

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01:11:38,360 --> 01:11:40,840
Speaker 1: you know, did we just like when you go back

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01:11:40,840 --> 01:11:42,280
Speaker 1: to the last game of the year, like some teams

1568
01:11:42,320 --> 01:11:44,880
Speaker 1: have been eliminated, some are playing backup quarterbacks, and you

1569
01:11:44,960 --> 01:11:48,400
Speaker 1: want to look at it over a long, honest, sober

1570
01:11:48,520 --> 01:11:51,800
Speaker 1: conversation to say, over a sixteen game period, how did

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01:11:51,840 --> 01:11:54,960
Speaker 1: the player perform? And more importantly, to Steve's point, where

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01:11:54,960 --> 01:11:56,960
Speaker 1: are they going in twenty twenty? Can we win with them?

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01:11:57,040 --> 01:11:59,439
Speaker 1: Are they in nucleus? Do we are they a core player,

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01:11:59,600 --> 01:12:01,439
Speaker 1: do we have to replace? I never really thought about it.

1575
01:12:01,479 --> 01:12:04,400
Speaker 1: But the interesting part about knowing your own guys is

1576
01:12:04,479 --> 01:12:07,160
Speaker 1: you're not talking to scouts. You're talking to assistant coaches

1577
01:12:07,160 --> 01:12:09,599
Speaker 1: who have kind of invested themselves into these guys too.

1578
01:12:09,680 --> 01:12:13,240
Speaker 1: I mean, it's a different motivation and a different point

1579
01:12:13,280 --> 01:12:15,799
Speaker 1: of view that these guys get evaluated under as opposed

1580
01:12:15,800 --> 01:12:17,559
Speaker 1: of the guys here we're looking as a combine. There,

1581
01:12:18,040 --> 01:12:22,240
Speaker 1: everybody's objective about them, but the assistant coach is not

1582
01:12:22,439 --> 01:12:25,040
Speaker 1: always so. And that's why, Steve, that's why we have

1583
01:12:25,120 --> 01:12:27,280
Speaker 1: front offices. You d checks and balances, and you can't

1584
01:12:27,360 --> 01:12:29,519
Speaker 1: keep every player. And I think that's why we're seeing

1585
01:12:29,600 --> 01:12:32,200
Speaker 1: more and more college coaches come in and be successful

1586
01:12:32,240 --> 01:12:34,720
Speaker 1: because they have that four year mindset. They're gonna have

1587
01:12:34,800 --> 01:12:37,320
Speaker 1: them as a freshman and then they're gonna graduate. And

1588
01:12:37,720 --> 01:12:39,800
Speaker 1: we talked about that all the time, like guys, like

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01:12:40,000 --> 01:12:42,280
Speaker 1: a lot of these players are gonna graduate. We cannot

1590
01:12:42,360 --> 01:12:44,320
Speaker 1: pay them all, Like those are great problems to have,

1591
01:12:44,760 --> 01:12:46,400
Speaker 1: and a lot of these players are going to graduate.

1592
01:12:46,439 --> 01:12:48,519
Speaker 1: It's interesting too, because one of the aspects of that

1593
01:12:48,640 --> 01:12:50,280
Speaker 1: is you get a four year guy, like a college guy,

1594
01:12:50,320 --> 01:12:52,240
Speaker 1: and one of the reasons you can be successful is

1595
01:12:52,240 --> 01:12:53,800
Speaker 1: you want them good in their first couple of years

1596
01:12:53,840 --> 01:12:58,400
Speaker 1: on their rookie contract in today's NFL. Plus during that development,

1597
01:12:58,640 --> 01:13:00,400
Speaker 1: you gotta get something out of them. Want to get

1598
01:13:00,479 --> 01:13:02,040
Speaker 1: something out of this freshman if he's going to be

1599
01:13:02,080 --> 01:13:04,000
Speaker 1: on the field, you gotta get something. I use special

1600
01:13:04,120 --> 01:13:07,120
Speaker 1: teams or a package, same thing all the way down

1601
01:13:07,160 --> 01:13:09,400
Speaker 1: your rose. Of course, they've got enormous rosters in college.

1602
01:13:09,439 --> 01:13:13,439
Speaker 1: But to get everybody contribute somehow, some way, it gives

1603
01:13:13,479 --> 01:13:16,560
Speaker 1: these maybe these college coaches a chance to understand to

1604
01:13:16,720 --> 01:13:20,160
Speaker 1: maximize a smaller roster. Yeah, no, that's exactly right. Because

1605
01:13:20,200 --> 01:13:22,320
Speaker 1: you're only dressing right now. We'll see what happens if

1606
01:13:22,360 --> 01:13:24,639
Speaker 1: there's a new collective part agreement, but only forty six

1607
01:13:24,680 --> 01:13:26,920
Speaker 1: players can dress, so they have to wear more than one,

1608
01:13:27,240 --> 01:13:29,320
Speaker 1: especially as you well know, Steve, they have to be

1609
01:13:29,560 --> 01:13:32,479
Speaker 1: productive in the kicking game, right. Mike tanaboum Our guest,

1610
01:13:32,720 --> 01:13:35,720
Speaker 1: a longtime NFL front off as executive. Did you start

1611
01:13:35,800 --> 01:13:37,680
Speaker 1: with the Jets? Is it where you got you start? Yeah?

1612
01:13:37,720 --> 01:13:39,920
Speaker 1: Actually I started a hundred years ago with the New

1613
01:13:40,040 --> 01:13:42,599
Speaker 1: Orleans Saints. Saints. Yeah. Then I went to the Cleveland

1614
01:13:42,600 --> 01:13:45,080
Speaker 1: Browns under coach Belichick in the ninety five season, and

1615
01:13:45,400 --> 01:13:47,800
Speaker 1: as you guys may remember, the ninety five Cleveland Browns

1616
01:13:47,840 --> 01:13:50,320
Speaker 1: became the Baltimore Ravens. And my break did come with

1617
01:13:50,360 --> 01:13:53,080
Speaker 1: the Jets. Coach Parcels and Coach Belichick hired me there

1618
01:13:53,120 --> 01:13:55,040
Speaker 1: and been fortunate enough to be in the acast for

1619
01:13:55,160 --> 01:13:56,760
Speaker 1: quite a while. You were in charge, and the Jets

1620
01:13:56,840 --> 01:13:58,760
Speaker 1: were really rolling right a couple of appearances in the

1621
01:13:58,840 --> 01:14:01,160
Speaker 1: championship game. I was part of an organization that did

1622
01:14:01,840 --> 01:14:03,920
Speaker 1: really well. What was going well for the Jets back then?

1623
01:14:03,920 --> 01:14:05,120
Speaker 1: What do you think the key was to get that

1624
01:14:05,280 --> 01:14:08,400
Speaker 1: thing going? I think we had tremendous organizational alignment. It

1625
01:14:08,479 --> 01:14:12,559
Speaker 1: always started for me upfront offensive line play and between

1626
01:14:12,600 --> 01:14:14,479
Speaker 1: coach Banini and coach Right and look, we had a

1627
01:14:14,520 --> 01:14:16,360
Speaker 1: lot of breaks. Anybody that has success, we had a

1628
01:14:16,600 --> 01:14:19,160
Speaker 1: you know, it's probably watching Tennessee this past year, got

1629
01:14:19,240 --> 01:14:21,559
Speaker 1: in as a wildcard, got the championship game. Actually reminded

1630
01:14:21,560 --> 01:14:23,600
Speaker 1: me of some of those Jet teams where next thing,

1631
01:14:23,640 --> 01:14:25,559
Speaker 1: you know, like we're like three minutes from the Super Bowls,

1632
01:14:25,600 --> 01:14:27,080
Speaker 1: like how do we get here? Let's exactly And that's

1633
01:14:27,160 --> 01:14:29,200
Speaker 1: kind of what the Giants did twice. I mean you know,

1634
01:14:29,320 --> 01:14:32,160
Speaker 1: they nine and seven, there adds and then they get

1635
01:14:32,200 --> 01:14:33,680
Speaker 1: hot at the right time, and you can do that

1636
01:14:33,800 --> 01:14:35,640
Speaker 1: and there's nothing wrong with it. I mean, the ring

1637
01:14:35,720 --> 01:14:38,320
Speaker 1: still fits. That's exactly right. Tell us about your time

1638
01:14:38,360 --> 01:14:41,280
Speaker 1: in Miami Now, it was a different organization, and it's

1639
01:14:41,280 --> 01:14:42,840
Speaker 1: one of the things that I got from my time

1640
01:14:42,880 --> 01:14:46,200
Speaker 1: at CBS was that, yeah, there's thirty two teams, they're

1641
01:14:46,200 --> 01:14:48,000
Speaker 1: all kind of the same, but when you get inside

1642
01:14:48,040 --> 01:14:51,280
Speaker 1: the walls of each franchise, wow, there's some differences. Yeah,

1643
01:14:51,320 --> 01:14:53,160
Speaker 1: that's that's right. And for me, I was fortunate like

1644
01:14:53,280 --> 01:14:55,960
Speaker 1: to be part of two really good organizations, very different

1645
01:14:56,000 --> 01:14:58,360
Speaker 1: in how they operated. We had a good nucleus, we

1646
01:14:58,400 --> 01:14:59,920
Speaker 1: were fortunately we went to the playoffs in the year

1647
01:15:00,520 --> 01:15:04,200
Speaker 1: in twenty sixteen with Ryan Tannehill, and you know, one

1648
01:15:04,240 --> 01:15:06,400
Speaker 1: of the things that looking back, and I wish we

1649
01:15:06,439 --> 01:15:08,559
Speaker 1: had more depth at the quarterback position Wherean got hurt

1650
01:15:08,600 --> 01:15:10,479
Speaker 1: a couple of times. We want to bring in Jay Cutler.

1651
01:15:11,479 --> 01:15:13,760
Speaker 1: And then when that ended, I was fortunate enough that

1652
01:15:14,080 --> 01:15:16,759
Speaker 1: ESPN gave me an opportunity. It's been a tremendous platform

1653
01:15:16,840 --> 01:15:19,760
Speaker 1: this past year gate to watch every game together with

1654
01:15:19,840 --> 01:15:22,720
Speaker 1: a whole bunch of really smart football minds. You really

1655
01:15:22,800 --> 01:15:25,519
Speaker 1: get to see. It's scary how many of these games

1656
01:15:25,600 --> 01:15:28,760
Speaker 1: come down to literally like four or five plays and

1657
01:15:28,840 --> 01:15:31,080
Speaker 1: a handful yea, yeah, it's really remarkable. See when you

1658
01:15:31,240 --> 01:15:34,160
Speaker 1: look at it objectively, the difference between six and ten

1659
01:15:34,560 --> 01:15:37,840
Speaker 1: and a winning season literally maybe thirty plays the whole year.

1660
01:15:37,920 --> 01:15:40,519
Speaker 1: I remember my head coach Marv Levy had the same

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01:15:40,600 --> 01:15:42,200
Speaker 1: day set us down one office. I don't know whin

1662
01:15:42,240 --> 01:15:44,800
Speaker 1: it was, where we're in our Super Bowl runs or

1663
01:15:44,800 --> 01:15:46,519
Speaker 1: whatever it was. He set us down, says, guys, the

1664
01:15:46,560 --> 01:15:49,640
Speaker 1: difference between the best teams in the league and the

1665
01:15:49,680 --> 01:15:53,760
Speaker 1: worst teams in the league is only two percent. And

1666
01:15:53,880 --> 01:15:56,120
Speaker 1: then he kind of said, listen, but that two percent

1667
01:15:56,600 --> 01:15:58,640
Speaker 1: is one hundred percent of the difference, and there's a

1668
01:15:58,680 --> 01:16:01,160
Speaker 1: lot in there. That's right. Get you those three plays

1669
01:16:01,200 --> 01:16:03,759
Speaker 1: a game, and that's why certain teams have that ability

1670
01:16:03,880 --> 01:16:06,360
Speaker 1: organization like the Pittsburgh Steelers always a contender, the Ravens

1671
01:16:06,400 --> 01:16:08,719
Speaker 1: always a contender, the New England Patriots always a contender.

1672
01:16:09,200 --> 01:16:11,560
Speaker 1: It's hard to get there and stay that, but it

1673
01:16:11,760 --> 01:16:16,840
Speaker 1: is an organizational mindset and ability. Am I right? Absolutely?

1674
01:16:16,920 --> 01:16:18,680
Speaker 1: And you know, you look at Buffalo this past year.

1675
01:16:19,040 --> 01:16:21,160
Speaker 1: They won a lot of close games and the way

1676
01:16:21,160 --> 01:16:23,759
Speaker 1: they're gonna play with coach mcdermots, especially on the defensive

1677
01:16:23,760 --> 01:16:25,360
Speaker 1: side of the ball, they're gonna be in a lot

1678
01:16:25,400 --> 01:16:27,439
Speaker 1: of games. And for them to get over the hump

1679
01:16:27,520 --> 01:16:30,000
Speaker 1: to say, hey, we're gonna be one of those sustainable teams,

1680
01:16:30,080 --> 01:16:32,160
Speaker 1: it's gonna be those handful of plays. And I like

1681
01:16:32,200 --> 01:16:34,320
Speaker 1: to be that always comes back to fundamentals, and Coach

1682
01:16:34,400 --> 01:16:36,840
Speaker 1: Belichick always had a great line like, hey, guys, let's

1683
01:16:37,000 --> 01:16:40,240
Speaker 1: let the opponent lose the game. Penalties turnovers if you

1684
01:16:40,280 --> 01:16:42,200
Speaker 1: don't turn the ball over. I know it sounds like

1685
01:16:42,280 --> 01:16:45,479
Speaker 1: the oldest cliche, but if you look over time, eighty

1686
01:16:45,560 --> 01:16:47,640
Speaker 1: percent of the wins in our league come from the

1687
01:16:47,640 --> 01:16:49,479
Speaker 1: teams that win the turnover battle, right, any Like we

1688
01:16:49,600 --> 01:16:51,599
Speaker 1: like to think in Buffalo, Stephen, I like to think

1689
01:16:51,640 --> 01:16:55,200
Speaker 1: that the current Bills leadership team McDermott and being in particular,

1690
01:16:55,680 --> 01:16:58,240
Speaker 1: is different than when the Dolphins and Jets were beating

1691
01:16:58,280 --> 01:17:00,400
Speaker 1: up bottom when you were there, right, I mean, and

1692
01:17:00,520 --> 01:17:01,960
Speaker 1: now they're in their fourth year with that group, but

1693
01:17:02,000 --> 01:17:03,479
Speaker 1: it's it's a different thing when you can keep a

1694
01:17:03,560 --> 01:17:06,720
Speaker 1: group together, essentially a coaching staff together and a core

1695
01:17:06,800 --> 01:17:09,200
Speaker 1: group of players together for almost four straight years. Yeah,

1696
01:17:09,200 --> 01:17:12,360
Speaker 1: and coach McDermott is the great leader and taking look,

1697
01:17:12,400 --> 01:17:14,360
Speaker 1: Brandon Breen's done a really good job as well. But

1698
01:17:14,640 --> 01:17:16,920
Speaker 1: when you think about, hey, it's Josh Allen and it's

1699
01:17:16,960 --> 01:17:20,360
Speaker 1: coach McDermott, and you think about Sean and the toughness

1700
01:17:20,439 --> 01:17:24,000
Speaker 1: of those Caroline defenses in Philadelphia's defense, that has carried over.

1701
01:17:24,800 --> 01:17:26,880
Speaker 1: It's really hard to play that Bill defense. I know,

1702
01:17:27,400 --> 01:17:29,360
Speaker 1: you know, you bang your head, especially when you go

1703
01:17:29,439 --> 01:17:31,800
Speaker 1: up to you guys that it's a hard place to play.

1704
01:17:31,840 --> 01:17:34,559
Speaker 1: It's starting to get an identity and now again there's

1705
01:17:34,560 --> 01:17:36,599
Speaker 1: a lot of excitement around Josh Allen, you know, Mike

1706
01:17:36,720 --> 01:17:38,840
Speaker 1: concern with Josh Allen from the lens of someone like

1707
01:17:38,920 --> 01:17:42,639
Speaker 1: Brandon Penez. Is it sustainable because he's so big, he's

1708
01:17:42,680 --> 01:17:45,240
Speaker 1: a contact player and you always think yourself like you

1709
01:17:45,320 --> 01:17:47,560
Speaker 1: just don't want him to get hurt. And it's his

1710
01:17:47,680 --> 01:17:51,000
Speaker 1: style play like, hey, getting out of bounds, throwing it away, slang,

1711
01:17:51,120 --> 01:17:53,679
Speaker 1: it's okay because we need to play sixteen games Josh

1712
01:17:53,880 --> 01:17:55,519
Speaker 1: at a high level, right, And that's one of the

1713
01:17:55,560 --> 01:17:58,160
Speaker 1: things about the new league with Lamar Jackson and Pat

1714
01:17:58,280 --> 01:18:02,519
Speaker 1: Mahomes and DeShawn Watt and Baker Mayfield, all these you

1715
01:18:02,560 --> 01:18:04,479
Speaker 1: do have to break contain a lot and make some

1716
01:18:04,600 --> 01:18:07,759
Speaker 1: plays off the page. And even with the protections afforded

1717
01:18:07,800 --> 01:18:11,240
Speaker 1: to quarterback these days, sooner or later, somebody's gonna hit

1718
01:18:11,280 --> 01:18:13,800
Speaker 1: the target because the quarterback is just that and you've

1719
01:18:13,800 --> 01:18:16,799
Speaker 1: got to be willing to take a loss and slide

1720
01:18:16,960 --> 01:18:20,519
Speaker 1: or out of bounds short of the line. But why

1721
01:18:20,560 --> 01:18:22,599
Speaker 1: does it that seems to be such a hard lesson

1722
01:18:22,640 --> 01:18:24,840
Speaker 1: for young guys to learn. Yeah, because they're greatest strength

1723
01:18:25,000 --> 01:18:26,519
Speaker 1: is it could be either way, Like, you don't want

1724
01:18:26,560 --> 01:18:28,439
Speaker 1: to take that away from them because you want him

1725
01:18:28,479 --> 01:18:30,720
Speaker 1: to be the uber competitive that he is. And he

1726
01:18:30,800 --> 01:18:33,240
Speaker 1: has such a good arm. I remember, you know, to

1727
01:18:33,320 --> 01:18:35,960
Speaker 1: your we're playing in Miami, it is a full field

1728
01:18:36,040 --> 01:18:38,240
Speaker 1: coverage and he gets out of the pocket. You gotta

1729
01:18:38,280 --> 01:18:39,960
Speaker 1: stay with your man because he's gonna find him and

1730
01:18:40,000 --> 01:18:41,920
Speaker 1: he can hit him. Hey, Mike, we were talking to

1731
01:18:42,040 --> 01:18:44,200
Speaker 1: Brandon Meanham about this and you you kind of touched

1732
01:18:44,240 --> 01:18:47,360
Speaker 1: on it. To get to twelve or thirteen wins from

1733
01:18:47,400 --> 01:18:49,439
Speaker 1: ten is a big jump, and a big jump for

1734
01:18:49,479 --> 01:18:51,680
Speaker 1: the Bills, right huge. But they got a really good

1735
01:18:51,760 --> 01:18:55,479
Speaker 1: kicker and that I know that sounds like a throwaway line.

1736
01:18:55,520 --> 01:18:59,840
Speaker 1: But these games are so close. But I agree with Brandon,

1737
01:18:59,880 --> 01:19:01,240
Speaker 1: it really hard to get to the next step. But

1738
01:19:01,240 --> 01:19:04,040
Speaker 1: again you go back to the threads of New Yngland success.

1739
01:19:04,400 --> 01:19:06,200
Speaker 1: You know, one of the core players nobody talks about

1740
01:19:06,240 --> 01:19:08,360
Speaker 1: in the great New Yngland Patriot run is none other

1741
01:19:08,439 --> 01:19:10,400
Speaker 1: than Matthews Slater. And I know you know that, Steve,

1742
01:19:10,800 --> 01:19:14,080
Speaker 1: because when you talk about the hitting yardage of the net,

1743
01:19:14,120 --> 01:19:18,160
Speaker 1: difference between punt punt return, kickoff, kickoff return, the cumultive

1744
01:19:18,160 --> 01:19:20,720
Speaker 1: effect of that is really important. So you have to

1745
01:19:20,800 --> 01:19:22,800
Speaker 1: win on the margins to go from nine ten wins

1746
01:19:22,840 --> 01:19:25,280
Speaker 1: to twelve thirteen. I know nobody wants to talk about,

1747
01:19:25,320 --> 01:19:28,160
Speaker 1: but Coach Belichick spends a lot of time in the

1748
01:19:28,280 --> 01:19:30,360
Speaker 1: kicking game. He's had a left footed punter for a

1749
01:19:30,479 --> 01:19:33,760
Speaker 1: number of years, which hurts the opponent returns games. He's

1750
01:19:33,800 --> 01:19:37,320
Speaker 1: had great kickers between Vinytarian Guskowski, and that's not by accent.

1751
01:19:37,680 --> 01:19:39,640
Speaker 1: So we're here at this combine. Now we got all

1752
01:19:39,680 --> 01:19:42,719
Speaker 1: this philosophical stuff we've been talking about. Talk a little

1753
01:19:42,720 --> 01:19:46,280
Speaker 1: bit about this draft and the philosophy behind raiding an

1754
01:19:46,439 --> 01:19:49,360
Speaker 1: entire draft. I mean, how many you know there's three

1755
01:19:49,439 --> 01:19:51,240
Speaker 1: hundred and thirty five guys here at the draft, they're

1756
01:19:51,240 --> 01:19:54,840
Speaker 1: gonna draft two hundred and fifty some odd guys. How

1757
01:19:55,000 --> 01:19:57,560
Speaker 1: deep do the NFL players go down this roster of

1758
01:19:57,600 --> 01:19:59,680
Speaker 1: two hundred fifty guys they're gonna be drafting. Yeah, it's

1759
01:19:59,680 --> 01:20:01,760
Speaker 1: probably closer to three hundred because you're gonna try to

1760
01:20:01,760 --> 01:20:04,400
Speaker 1: sign guys after the draft as well. So, and again

1761
01:20:04,600 --> 01:20:06,599
Speaker 1: why it's so important to go back to your earlier comments.

1762
01:20:06,680 --> 01:20:11,400
Speaker 1: Job this Brandon Breen's job didn't start today because you

1763
01:20:11,600 --> 01:20:13,720
Speaker 1: need to know the depth of the positions in the

1764
01:20:13,840 --> 01:20:16,360
Speaker 1: draft to help you make decisions. So if you need

1765
01:20:16,439 --> 01:20:18,200
Speaker 1: a receiver, and I know people are gonna say, like,

1766
01:20:18,280 --> 01:20:20,680
Speaker 1: does Buffalo have aging receivers? Do they need somebody young?

1767
01:20:21,640 --> 01:20:24,240
Speaker 1: They got to address that in three different ways, the draft,

1768
01:20:24,320 --> 01:20:26,799
Speaker 1: the draft, and the draft. There's so many great receivers

1769
01:20:26,840 --> 01:20:29,560
Speaker 1: in this year's draft they should even think about the

1770
01:20:29,920 --> 01:20:33,040
Speaker 1: veteran market. You know, guys like Robbie Anderson from the Jets.

1771
01:20:33,280 --> 01:20:35,000
Speaker 1: I think those guys are going to be hurt because

1772
01:20:35,040 --> 01:20:37,000
Speaker 1: they're such great depth in this year's draft at that

1773
01:20:37,040 --> 01:20:39,240
Speaker 1: position and there's a ton of kids, young kids coming up.

1774
01:20:39,280 --> 01:20:41,559
Speaker 1: I mean, it's the position guys want to play. If

1775
01:20:41,600 --> 01:20:43,600
Speaker 1: you can't throw it right, you want to be the

1776
01:20:43,640 --> 01:20:45,920
Speaker 1: guy catching it. I mean, that's that's like, it's the

1777
01:20:46,120 --> 01:20:49,760
Speaker 1: new position guys want to play other than they don't

1778
01:20:49,760 --> 01:20:50,960
Speaker 1: want to be tight end. They want to play with

1779
01:20:51,120 --> 01:20:52,560
Speaker 1: right body. Used to be running back because you know

1780
01:20:52,600 --> 01:20:54,160
Speaker 1: we're gonna carry the ball a bunch, get a bunch

1781
01:20:54,160 --> 01:20:56,880
Speaker 1: of touches. Now all the young athletes want to be

1782
01:20:56,920 --> 01:20:58,679
Speaker 1: the guy catching the football. And we got to remember

1783
01:20:58,720 --> 01:21:01,040
Speaker 1: that at the end of the day, you're playing in

1784
01:21:01,160 --> 01:21:04,320
Speaker 1: pro football with what they play put out on Saturday,

1785
01:21:04,439 --> 01:21:06,800
Speaker 1: and that's why you're seeing teams play more three and

1786
01:21:06,880 --> 01:21:09,240
Speaker 1: four wide receiver sets. Hey, Mike, is there anything in

1787
01:21:09,360 --> 01:21:11,479
Speaker 1: the new CBA. I know we're all waiting for news

1788
01:21:11,560 --> 01:21:13,160
Speaker 1: on the new CBA, but is there anything in the

1789
01:21:13,240 --> 01:21:16,000
Speaker 1: proposal that's been bounced around even last weekend that a

1790
01:21:16,080 --> 01:21:18,400
Speaker 1: general manager should have to concern himself with. It doesn't

1791
01:21:18,439 --> 01:21:20,400
Speaker 1: seem like there's much. You know, John bring up a

1792
01:21:20,439 --> 01:21:22,160
Speaker 1: good point. Two things that caught by E. One is

1793
01:21:22,479 --> 01:21:25,200
Speaker 1: the whole idea of like two additional roster spots, maybe

1794
01:21:25,280 --> 01:21:27,799
Speaker 1: dressing two more. One would be for an offensive lineman.

1795
01:21:28,160 --> 01:21:31,080
Speaker 1: As fans should remember, most teams will dress seven offensive

1796
01:21:31,080 --> 01:21:33,840
Speaker 1: lineman on game day, so your two injuries away from

1797
01:21:33,880 --> 01:21:35,559
Speaker 1: being in a weird position where you need a tight

1798
01:21:35,640 --> 01:21:37,519
Speaker 1: end to maybe finish the game. So that's good. And

1799
01:21:37,560 --> 01:21:40,320
Speaker 1: then a couple of additional practice squad positions, which is

1800
01:21:40,400 --> 01:21:44,320
Speaker 1: really important because again from a developmental standpoint, especially if

1801
01:21:44,360 --> 01:21:46,280
Speaker 1: we do go and it's a little controversial right now,

1802
01:21:46,360 --> 01:21:48,519
Speaker 1: but if in fact we do go to seventeen games,

1803
01:21:48,880 --> 01:21:51,280
Speaker 1: you need to continue to develop players because players that

1804
01:21:51,640 --> 01:21:53,280
Speaker 1: you don't think are good enough in August will be

1805
01:21:53,360 --> 01:21:55,320
Speaker 1: playing for you in December. Yeah, and that's really been

1806
01:21:55,680 --> 01:21:57,920
Speaker 1: one of the things that you can talk about the XFL,

1807
01:21:58,000 --> 01:22:02,720
Speaker 1: on these other ancilliary leagues. The NFL practice squad is

1808
01:22:02,800 --> 01:22:05,479
Speaker 1: still I think better than being in an in an

1809
01:22:05,560 --> 01:22:08,519
Speaker 1: alternate league because you're on the field in the league,

1810
01:22:08,600 --> 01:22:11,479
Speaker 1: playing and practicing with NFL talent on an NFL system,

1811
01:22:12,160 --> 01:22:15,559
Speaker 1: and it has worked, I think exactly the way they

1812
01:22:15,640 --> 01:22:17,120
Speaker 1: hoped it would when they put that. That's one of

1813
01:22:17,160 --> 01:22:18,680
Speaker 1: the things in the CBA. I think that has really

1814
01:22:18,760 --> 01:22:20,880
Speaker 1: helped club, no question about it. And I know Steve

1815
01:22:21,000 --> 01:22:23,439
Speaker 1: like There's always got the headlines, but I completely agree.

1816
01:22:23,520 --> 01:22:26,600
Speaker 1: And you look at teams like Baltimore towards when they

1817
01:22:26,680 --> 01:22:29,320
Speaker 1: go in their stretch runs after Thanksgiving. Invariably it's a

1818
01:22:29,320 --> 01:22:31,799
Speaker 1: guy off their practice squad that may make the difference.

1819
01:22:32,080 --> 01:22:34,800
Speaker 1: What about the postseason expanding postseason? You know you're good

1820
01:22:34,840 --> 01:22:36,640
Speaker 1: with that. I like it. Now here's the one thing

1821
01:22:36,680 --> 01:22:38,760
Speaker 1: that's interesting. Let's look at the NFC for a minute.

1822
01:22:39,400 --> 01:22:42,080
Speaker 1: You could take San Francisco, Philly, Green Bay, New Orleans

1823
01:22:42,160 --> 01:22:44,200
Speaker 1: plus or bias there within five percent of one another.

1824
01:22:44,880 --> 01:22:47,200
Speaker 1: If this format comes in where only one team gets

1825
01:22:47,200 --> 01:22:50,240
Speaker 1: a buy. I know from being in some of those

1826
01:22:50,320 --> 01:22:53,080
Speaker 1: postseason runs like the two hs are really important your

1827
01:22:53,160 --> 01:22:56,599
Speaker 1: health and home field, right, and when if you take

1828
01:22:56,640 --> 01:22:58,880
Speaker 1: those four teams and only one team gets the extra

1829
01:22:58,920 --> 01:23:02,439
Speaker 1: week is going to make a huge difference because those

1830
01:23:02,479 --> 01:23:04,640
Speaker 1: other teams are gonna beating each other up and then

1831
01:23:04,720 --> 01:23:07,000
Speaker 1: whoever survives has to go to that one place that

1832
01:23:07,160 --> 01:23:09,880
Speaker 1: had a buy and now a home game. Like me,

1833
01:23:10,200 --> 01:23:11,720
Speaker 1: it makes a huge freeo and being that one st

1834
01:23:12,080 --> 01:23:15,200
Speaker 1: at that time of year, two weeks and a full

1835
01:23:15,240 --> 01:23:18,759
Speaker 1: week off of your body is like a month long vacation.

1836
01:23:18,960 --> 01:23:21,559
Speaker 1: That's where you get there after a grind of sixteen weeks,

1837
01:23:21,600 --> 01:23:24,719
Speaker 1: seventeen eighteen weeks. Now with the buys Mann, a week

1838
01:23:24,800 --> 01:23:29,560
Speaker 1: off is gold then questions. We've laughed though, if you

1839
01:23:29,680 --> 01:23:31,560
Speaker 1: lose the game and you had the buys because you

1840
01:23:31,760 --> 01:23:33,840
Speaker 1: you were you should have been playing. And if you

1841
01:23:34,000 --> 01:23:36,320
Speaker 1: win it it's like because you're you know, it's a

1842
01:23:36,520 --> 01:23:38,960
Speaker 1: you know who. You can spin it anyway you want.

1843
01:23:39,000 --> 01:23:41,720
Speaker 1: But for the players, that that week off feels like

1844
01:23:41,800 --> 01:23:44,240
Speaker 1: an eternity, and there's a there's a reason most of

1845
01:23:44,240 --> 01:23:45,960
Speaker 1: the teams have to buy get to the super Bowl, no,

1846
01:23:46,120 --> 01:23:49,240
Speaker 1: no question about it. Hey Mike, what's you're not your schedule?

1847
01:23:49,280 --> 01:23:50,439
Speaker 1: But what what are you gonna be doing? What kind

1848
01:23:50,479 --> 01:23:51,920
Speaker 1: of work are you doing with ESPN? Here is the

1849
01:23:51,960 --> 01:23:55,759
Speaker 1: front office? Yeah, spent a real privilege, you know, replacing

1850
01:23:56,040 --> 01:23:58,519
Speaker 1: former Buffalo Bill and Hall of Fame GM Bill Polly,

1851
01:23:58,600 --> 01:24:01,920
Speaker 1: and he retired. So it's just bring another sort of

1852
01:24:02,000 --> 01:24:05,160
Speaker 1: perspective to the discussion. You know. I think the networking

1853
01:24:05,200 --> 01:24:07,759
Speaker 1: of ITSELFS does a great job of covering free agency

1854
01:24:07,760 --> 01:24:10,680
Speaker 1: and the transactions with Chris Mortons and Adam Schefter, and

1855
01:24:10,720 --> 01:24:13,120
Speaker 1: then you have Todd McShee and Milk Kayper. They do

1856
01:24:13,200 --> 01:24:15,240
Speaker 1: a great job on the draft. And I think one

1857
01:24:15,280 --> 01:24:16,840
Speaker 1: of the voices I'm trying to bring to the table

1858
01:24:17,000 --> 01:24:18,240
Speaker 1: is like, all right, how do we pull it all

1859
01:24:18,280 --> 01:24:21,040
Speaker 1: together and again, you know, as we attack the offseason,

1860
01:24:21,439 --> 01:24:25,080
Speaker 1: those decisions you have to really make with one eye

1861
01:24:25,080 --> 01:24:27,800
Speaker 1: towards free agency and one eye towards the draft and

1862
01:24:27,960 --> 01:24:29,920
Speaker 1: talk about signs and trades and try to tie it

1863
01:24:29,960 --> 01:24:31,840
Speaker 1: all again. And even random being today told us he's

1864
01:24:31,880 --> 01:24:33,800
Speaker 1: thinking about all that and also thinking about next year

1865
01:24:33,840 --> 01:24:35,040
Speaker 1: and the year after that. You have to do that

1866
01:24:35,080 --> 01:24:37,600
Speaker 1: as a GM too, no question about it, because you

1867
01:24:37,680 --> 01:24:39,800
Speaker 1: got to win for today and develop for tomorrow. So

1868
01:24:39,880 --> 01:24:42,080
Speaker 1: when you're talking about this last one I got for you,

1869
01:24:42,280 --> 01:24:45,920
Speaker 1: and let's you say something really cool. So don't you

1870
01:24:46,000 --> 01:24:48,400
Speaker 1: get into these situations with all the three hundred guys here,

1871
01:24:48,439 --> 01:24:50,400
Speaker 1: you've got nine picks, they're you know, nine to the

1872
01:24:50,439 --> 01:24:52,320
Speaker 1: three hundred are going to be draft picks and maybe

1873
01:24:52,360 --> 01:24:56,080
Speaker 1: a couple more free agents. What is the biggest disqualifier

1874
01:24:56,280 --> 01:24:57,880
Speaker 1: that you see in your because this is what it

1875
01:24:57,960 --> 01:25:00,360
Speaker 1: is really like. Not him, not him? Maybe maybe you

1876
01:25:00,400 --> 01:25:02,240
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Yeah, that's the biggest disqualify. Yeah,

1877
01:25:02,320 --> 01:25:04,960
Speaker 1: great question. Mindset. You know, if someone has a fixed

1878
01:25:05,000 --> 01:25:07,599
Speaker 1: mindset and they're not coachable, you know, it's the old actium.

1879
01:25:07,640 --> 01:25:09,200
Speaker 1: The two things you have in pro football. You don't

1880
01:25:09,240 --> 01:25:11,639
Speaker 1: have in college football time and money and how you're

1881
01:25:11,640 --> 01:25:14,120
Speaker 1: going to react to that, and if you're not William

1882
01:25:14,160 --> 01:25:16,760
Speaker 1: be coached, if you're not selfless, we don't have a

1883
01:25:16,800 --> 01:25:19,120
Speaker 1: spot for you on our team. And it's a great

1884
01:25:19,160 --> 01:25:21,719
Speaker 1: thing to watch. You should go on YouTube and listen

1885
01:25:21,760 --> 01:25:24,840
Speaker 1: to coach Parcels induction speech when he went to Kenton, Ohio,

1886
01:25:25,120 --> 01:25:27,479
Speaker 1: and he just talked about how the pro locker room,

1887
01:25:28,000 --> 01:25:31,240
Speaker 1: our doors are wide open, but we're also self selecting

1888
01:25:31,640 --> 01:25:33,240
Speaker 1: that you're only gonna be able to stick around if

1889
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Speaker 1: you can help us win. And that's really what it's

1890
01:25:35,400 --> 01:25:38,840
Speaker 1: all about. Where football is the ultimate meritocracy, and if

1891
01:25:38,880 --> 01:25:41,200
Speaker 1: you're good enough you can help us win, you're gonna stay.

1892
01:25:41,240 --> 01:25:43,839
Speaker 1: If not, we're gonna move on from you. And being coachable.

1893
01:25:43,920 --> 01:25:45,640
Speaker 1: Steve is such a big part of that and I

1894
01:25:45,680 --> 01:25:48,080
Speaker 1: always tell people this. They talk about We've had this

1895
01:25:48,120 --> 01:25:50,880
Speaker 1: conversation even in today's show about culture and about people

1896
01:25:50,920 --> 01:25:53,120
Speaker 1: kind of poo poo culture. But here's the truth of

1897
01:25:53,160 --> 01:25:54,960
Speaker 1: it is, when you're in an NFL locker room, you

1898
01:25:55,040 --> 01:25:58,160
Speaker 1: can't hide who you really are, and you know you're

1899
01:25:58,200 --> 01:26:00,280
Speaker 1: showering with these guys. I mean they know you and

1900
01:26:00,400 --> 01:26:02,000
Speaker 1: they know you when you're down, and when you're up,

1901
01:26:02,080 --> 01:26:04,599
Speaker 1: when you win, when you lose, and if you can't

1902
01:26:04,680 --> 01:26:07,679
Speaker 1: help even in the locker room, in the downtimes off

1903
01:26:07,720 --> 01:26:12,839
Speaker 1: the field, then that's big a reason as your inability

1904
01:26:12,880 --> 01:26:16,000
Speaker 1: to play, no question about it. And uh, you know adversity,

1905
01:26:16,439 --> 01:26:18,040
Speaker 1: every team is going to deal with it and how

1906
01:26:18,080 --> 01:26:20,160
Speaker 1: you react to it. And again, why I think Polo's

1907
01:26:20,160 --> 01:26:22,680
Speaker 1: and good goes back to the leadership, Like coach McDermott,

1908
01:26:22,960 --> 01:26:25,000
Speaker 1: he's a guy that when they've had bumps in the

1909
01:26:25,080 --> 01:26:27,120
Speaker 1: road like he's been the guy to steer the ship.

1910
01:26:27,200 --> 01:26:30,920
Speaker 1: And again I think there's great identity that defense, home

1911
01:26:31,000 --> 01:26:33,400
Speaker 1: field advantage and a young emerging quarterback. Hey, Mike, thanks

1912
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Speaker 1: for this great Thank you, appreciate your time. I have

1913
01:26:35,960 --> 01:26:38,120
Speaker 1: a great week. Yeah, thank you. Mike Tannenbaum, our guests

1914
01:26:38,200 --> 01:26:41,360
Speaker 1: twenty four years experience as an NFL front office executive.

1915
01:26:41,400 --> 01:26:44,280
Speaker 1: He is now ESPN's front office insider. Steve and I

1916
01:26:44,400 --> 01:26:46,840
Speaker 1: coming back with more One Bill's life from this County

1917
01:26:46,880 --> 01:26:57,920
Speaker 1: combine an Indy, This is Buffalo Building. Welcome back John

1918
01:26:58,000 --> 01:27:00,920
Speaker 1: Murphy's Deep Cansker, Welcome back to them buying in Indianapolis.

1919
01:27:01,000 --> 01:27:04,200
Speaker 1: And our thanks again to uh Mike Tannenbaum, a long

1920
01:27:04,240 --> 01:27:08,320
Speaker 1: time NX NFL executive now with ESPN Um Hush just

1921
01:27:08,439 --> 01:27:10,840
Speaker 1: fell over the room. Steve as the armed guards bringing

1922
01:27:11,560 --> 01:27:15,559
Speaker 1: Thembarti Trophy. It's the Vince Lombardi Trophy that the Colts won,

1923
01:27:15,600 --> 01:27:17,400
Speaker 1: because I get the guy wheeled it in and it's

1924
01:27:17,439 --> 01:27:20,160
Speaker 1: got the horseshoe on the case. Yeah, that's okay. They're

1925
01:27:20,200 --> 01:27:22,679
Speaker 1: putting it on display here. This room will be filled

1926
01:27:22,720 --> 01:27:24,679
Speaker 1: with fans as they watch the bench press for real,

1927
01:27:24,720 --> 01:27:28,120
Speaker 1: and there's vertical jump broad jump drills for fans and

1928
01:27:28,160 --> 01:27:29,960
Speaker 1: they can look at the Vince Lombardi Trophy. It's take

1929
01:27:30,000 --> 01:27:31,760
Speaker 1: their picture with it, all right. They've got the case open,

1930
01:27:31,800 --> 01:27:34,320
Speaker 1: they're gonna pull it out. It's not quite the Stanley Cup.

1931
01:27:34,960 --> 01:27:38,040
Speaker 1: Oh it's beautiful though, well it's wrapped in some sort

1932
01:27:38,040 --> 01:27:41,000
Speaker 1: of it's beautiful dish rage. Thanks to Mike Tannenbaum, we

1933
01:27:41,080 --> 01:27:42,800
Speaker 1: got the field gates coming up with two. Let's take

1934
01:27:42,840 --> 01:27:45,200
Speaker 1: this phone called John in Arizona has been waiting for

1935
01:27:45,280 --> 01:27:47,320
Speaker 1: a real long time. Let's say we can get them

1936
01:27:47,400 --> 01:27:51,200
Speaker 1: up on the air here. Maybe we can uh hang on,

1937
01:27:51,360 --> 01:27:53,360
Speaker 1: hang on, hang on, hang on, John, Hey John, how

1938
01:27:53,360 --> 01:27:59,560
Speaker 1: are you? Yeah? Pretty good? Hey looking yes, good, I

1939
01:28:00,040 --> 01:28:02,840
Speaker 1: have a solution. I think I have a solution for

1940
01:28:03,840 --> 01:28:07,640
Speaker 1: overtime in the NFL where it's fair food. Is there

1941
01:28:07,640 --> 01:28:11,240
Speaker 1: a problem with overtime. I don't like the over with

1942
01:28:11,360 --> 01:28:14,759
Speaker 1: the overtime and what they call sudden death. I don't

1943
01:28:14,800 --> 01:28:16,880
Speaker 1: like it. I didn't like what happened in New Orleans

1944
01:28:16,960 --> 01:28:20,439
Speaker 1: this year. I have a solution for overtime. If you'll

1945
01:28:21,040 --> 01:28:24,960
Speaker 1: just hear it. Let's hear it. Okay, team wins the

1946
01:28:25,080 --> 01:28:29,080
Speaker 1: toss the time teammate goes down, they score a touchdown,

1947
01:28:30,080 --> 01:28:32,920
Speaker 1: and it takes them six and a half minutes. Team

1948
01:28:32,960 --> 01:28:35,840
Speaker 1: B still gets the ball. They must then score a

1949
01:28:35,920 --> 01:28:38,080
Speaker 1: touchdown in less than six and a half minutes or

1950
01:28:38,160 --> 01:28:42,760
Speaker 1: game is over. Team they kicks a field goal. It

1951
01:28:42,880 --> 01:28:44,599
Speaker 1: kicks a field goal in six and a half minutes.

1952
01:28:44,680 --> 01:28:46,800
Speaker 1: I'm using that as a six and a half minutes.

1953
01:28:47,360 --> 01:28:49,920
Speaker 1: The team B kicks a field goal in less than

1954
01:28:50,000 --> 01:28:52,880
Speaker 1: six and a half minutes, they win the game. Team

1955
01:28:52,960 --> 01:28:55,679
Speaker 1: B that didn't kick a field goal, but can still

1956
01:28:55,880 --> 01:29:00,840
Speaker 1: score a touchdown if both teams. If both teams don't score,

1957
01:29:00,920 --> 01:29:03,200
Speaker 1: then the next score, of course wins the game. But

1958
01:29:03,360 --> 01:29:07,080
Speaker 1: this gives a fair chance the team BE who didn't

1959
01:29:07,120 --> 01:29:09,519
Speaker 1: get a chance to touch the ball. They have to

1960
01:29:09,640 --> 01:29:12,479
Speaker 1: All they have to do is score touchdown in less

1961
01:29:12,560 --> 01:29:15,080
Speaker 1: time than team Ay, did they win the game? If

1962
01:29:15,120 --> 01:29:18,759
Speaker 1: they don't, game is over. What if they both score

1963
01:29:18,800 --> 01:29:22,280
Speaker 1: in six minutes and ten seconds you keep playing, Yeah,

1964
01:29:22,520 --> 01:29:27,519
Speaker 1: but then the next score wins. Okay, Well, yeah, I

1965
01:29:27,560 --> 01:29:29,800
Speaker 1: guess you believe there's a problem. I guess that would

1966
01:29:29,800 --> 01:29:32,920
Speaker 1: solve it. What do you think, Steve? The reason the

1967
01:29:33,000 --> 01:29:35,760
Speaker 1: reason people have a problem with the reason people have

1968
01:29:35,880 --> 01:29:38,280
Speaker 1: a problem with the overtime rules now is that all

1969
01:29:38,360 --> 01:29:41,439
Speaker 1: these games, these overtime games we've seen that have been

1970
01:29:41,520 --> 01:29:44,760
Speaker 1: so compelling and so fun to watch and so great,

1971
01:29:45,000 --> 01:29:47,840
Speaker 1: it's a bummer when they end and one team doesn't

1972
01:29:47,840 --> 01:29:49,840
Speaker 1: get a chance to answer that like they've answered the

1973
01:29:50,040 --> 01:29:54,519
Speaker 1: entire game, you know, or one team or other overtime's overtime,

1974
01:29:54,880 --> 01:29:58,160
Speaker 1: and you know, the game's got to end. Somebody's gonna

1975
01:29:58,160 --> 01:30:00,040
Speaker 1: have to win it. And that's the only problem with

1976
01:30:00,160 --> 01:30:02,120
Speaker 1: overtime now is that people are so bad and so

1977
01:30:02,280 --> 01:30:05,160
Speaker 1: mad because they didn't win, that their team didn't win

1978
01:30:05,360 --> 01:30:08,799
Speaker 1: and it was two and they should have. They wanted

1979
01:30:08,840 --> 01:30:11,080
Speaker 1: them to. Whatever happens, you know, So they're trying to

1980
01:30:11,120 --> 01:30:13,320
Speaker 1: get these overtime games to go on and on and

1981
01:30:13,479 --> 01:30:16,720
Speaker 1: on and on until one team falters. And you know,

1982
01:30:16,800 --> 01:30:22,680
Speaker 1: I just no, you should and play defense. I mean,

1983
01:30:22,800 --> 01:30:24,880
Speaker 1: good grief. What John's trying to solve, as you know,

1984
01:30:25,240 --> 01:30:28,800
Speaker 1: is the issue of a team not getting a chance

1985
01:30:28,880 --> 01:30:31,839
Speaker 1: to do anything if if Team A scores a touchdown,

1986
01:30:31,960 --> 01:30:34,280
Speaker 1: no matter how long it takes, game over. So the

1987
01:30:34,360 --> 01:30:36,760
Speaker 1: second team has happened to the Chiefs two years ago,

1988
01:30:36,960 --> 01:30:39,479
Speaker 1: doesn't even get a chance. I don't know if it's

1989
01:30:39,479 --> 01:30:42,600
Speaker 1: a problem. It's not a problem. Play defense. I know

1990
01:30:44,280 --> 01:30:47,400
Speaker 1: those guys count two. You know they're making multimillion dollars

1991
01:30:47,479 --> 01:30:50,400
Speaker 1: too to stop people. You got a coordinated that's made

1992
01:30:50,439 --> 01:30:53,280
Speaker 1: forty stop them. You're right, get an interception, pick six.

1993
01:30:53,439 --> 01:30:54,880
Speaker 1: And by the way, I have something I don't like

1994
01:30:55,000 --> 01:30:56,880
Speaker 1: the college rule. I don't like starting on a twenty

1995
01:30:56,880 --> 01:30:58,719
Speaker 1: five yard line thirty five yard nine all of sudden,

1996
01:30:58,720 --> 01:31:02,160
Speaker 1: you're not playing football. You're making you're taking half of

1997
01:31:02,560 --> 01:31:07,720
Speaker 1: the roster out of the equation. And it's it's to me,

1998
01:31:08,760 --> 01:31:11,960
Speaker 1: and I see that it's just because people want to

1999
01:31:11,960 --> 01:31:14,120
Speaker 1: see more of that game, because the game is so good,

2000
01:31:14,200 --> 01:31:17,000
Speaker 1: and they're bummed when it's over, and half of them

2001
01:31:17,000 --> 01:31:19,240
Speaker 1: are bummed and they think their team should have gotten

2002
01:31:19,320 --> 01:31:22,040
Speaker 1: one more try. Well, no, they don't get one more try.

2003
01:31:22,080 --> 01:31:24,360
Speaker 1: The game's over, okay, just like if it was regulation,

2004
01:31:24,400 --> 01:31:27,719
Speaker 1: your team lost a really good game. Tough nuts, you know. Okay,

2005
01:31:28,080 --> 01:31:32,000
Speaker 1: that's you know, that's the way of cookie crumbles, play

2006
01:31:32,040 --> 01:31:35,519
Speaker 1: some defense, bro over time or not. Okay, all right,

2007
01:31:35,560 --> 01:31:37,360
Speaker 1: I'm inclined to agree with you. If you had a

2008
01:31:37,360 --> 01:31:39,200
Speaker 1: good Twitter poll going out to anyway, they had much

2009
01:31:39,280 --> 01:31:41,320
Speaker 1: chance to check it because we've been fired up with

2010
01:31:41,439 --> 01:31:43,880
Speaker 1: the interviews. But we're talking about the Bills and any

2011
01:31:43,920 --> 01:31:47,040
Speaker 1: wide receiver. What's the best characteristic the Bills should look

2012
01:31:47,080 --> 01:31:49,320
Speaker 1: for if they add a wide receiver, either free agency

2013
01:31:49,760 --> 01:31:51,439
Speaker 1: or the draft. What's the number one thing that they

2014
01:31:51,479 --> 01:31:53,400
Speaker 1: should look for it? And you'd like to say, well,

2015
01:31:53,400 --> 01:31:56,080
Speaker 1: add of the above, obviously, Okay, I get that. But

2016
01:31:56,560 --> 01:31:59,519
Speaker 1: on the Twitter poll with five votes in, forty three

2017
01:31:59,560 --> 01:32:01,439
Speaker 1: percent say they should look for a guy with good

2018
01:32:01,520 --> 01:32:04,599
Speaker 1: hands number one characteristic. Thirty eight percent say they're looking

2019
01:32:04,640 --> 01:32:09,720
Speaker 1: for size, length, bulk, thirteen percent say speed, and six

2020
01:32:09,800 --> 01:32:13,160
Speaker 1: percent say other's that's pretty close. Really, Forty three percent

2021
01:32:13,240 --> 01:32:16,160
Speaker 1: say good hands and thirty eight percent say size and length.

2022
01:32:16,200 --> 01:32:17,960
Speaker 1: I think that is pretty close. I think it's just

2023
01:32:18,520 --> 01:32:21,200
Speaker 1: I think it's also speaks to what people want the

2024
01:32:21,320 --> 01:32:24,680
Speaker 1: Bills to get in their next wide receiver. You know,

2025
01:32:24,920 --> 01:32:27,840
Speaker 1: they want a guy with because if it was a

2026
01:32:27,920 --> 01:32:30,160
Speaker 1: vacuum and we already had a big time guy like that,

2027
01:32:30,240 --> 01:32:32,559
Speaker 1: they'd be asking for something completely different. And I think

2028
01:32:32,760 --> 01:32:35,920
Speaker 1: they have speed, right, they have decent hands already. Right,

2029
01:32:36,240 --> 01:32:38,040
Speaker 1: all right, we'll take a break here. When we come back,

2030
01:32:38,080 --> 01:32:39,960
Speaker 1: we'll do more the Twitter poll. But we got the

2031
01:32:40,000 --> 01:32:41,920
Speaker 1: top of the hour here and coming back after the break,

2032
01:32:41,960 --> 01:32:45,599
Speaker 1: we're gonna be talking with who we got, Oh field Yates,

2033
01:32:45,840 --> 01:32:48,280
Speaker 1: ESPN insider Field Yates. We have so many guests today.

2034
01:32:48,479 --> 01:32:50,320
Speaker 1: Field Yates is coming by when we come back. It's

2035
01:32:50,360 --> 01:32:53,360
Speaker 1: one Bill's Life, presented by Kalina Health from the NFL

2036
01:32:53,479 --> 01:33:02,040
Speaker 1: Combine in Indianapolis. This is Buffalo Bill's Radiolo, the old

2037
01:33:02,280 --> 01:33:09,519
Speaker 1: Radio Networks Stories update from the Combine. It's another day

2038
01:33:09,560 --> 01:33:12,040
Speaker 1: of the NFL scouting Combine for the Bills on field.

2039
01:33:12,080 --> 01:33:15,240
Speaker 1: Workouts start tomorrow here in Indie. Quarterbacks and wide receivers

2040
01:33:15,280 --> 01:33:17,479
Speaker 1: on the field starting at four pm. Bill Say've had

2041
01:33:17,520 --> 01:33:21,400
Speaker 1: talks with Josh Norman, the former Carolina Panther's cornerback who

2042
01:33:21,439 --> 01:33:23,760
Speaker 1: also played for Washington the last few years. He was

2043
01:33:23,840 --> 01:33:26,639
Speaker 1: released by Washington a few weeks ago. Bill's got connections

2044
01:33:26,680 --> 01:33:28,680
Speaker 1: with him with Brandon Bean and Sean McDermott from their

2045
01:33:28,760 --> 01:33:32,599
Speaker 1: time in Carolina GM. Brandon Meat says nothing is imminent

2046
01:33:32,720 --> 01:33:35,439
Speaker 1: with Josh Norman at this time. Last night, the NFL

2047
01:33:35,560 --> 01:33:38,439
Speaker 1: moved closer to labor piece for another decade. Player rep

2048
01:33:38,479 --> 01:33:41,240
Speaker 1: photo to send a new deal approved by the owners

2049
01:33:41,400 --> 01:33:44,479
Speaker 1: to the membership. The deal includes a seventeen game season,

2050
01:33:44,600 --> 01:33:48,080
Speaker 1: probably in the twenty twenty one season. After nearly four

2051
01:33:48,120 --> 01:33:50,599
Speaker 1: hours of meetings with player reps and the NFL team,

2052
01:33:50,840 --> 01:33:54,680
Speaker 1: the thirty two team reps sent the spent several more

2053
01:33:54,760 --> 01:33:57,360
Speaker 1: hours talking over. Then they sent the agreement to their membership,

2054
01:33:57,640 --> 01:34:00,439
Speaker 1: the two thousand members of the nfl PA. The players

2055
01:34:00,720 --> 01:34:03,240
Speaker 1: need a simple majority of vote to approve it, and

2056
01:34:03,760 --> 01:34:06,200
Speaker 1: that is expected in the next week or so. Little

2057
01:34:06,240 --> 01:34:08,280
Speaker 1: doubt the Miami Dolphins have a big hand to play

2058
01:34:08,360 --> 01:34:11,880
Speaker 1: in the draft this year. They have fourteen draft picks,

2059
01:34:11,960 --> 01:34:14,280
Speaker 1: three first round, there's five in the opening two rounds,

2060
01:34:14,600 --> 01:34:17,840
Speaker 1: and yesterday Dolphins general manager Chris Beer said he's not

2061
01:34:17,920 --> 01:34:20,200
Speaker 1: opposed to using him. He said, I don't think you

2062
01:34:20,360 --> 01:34:22,920
Speaker 1: rule anything out, including moving up to number one. He says,

2063
01:34:23,160 --> 01:34:25,640
Speaker 1: I think we're wide open to just about everything to

2064
01:34:25,800 --> 01:34:30,439
Speaker 1: attack the Alba. Taglia Viola told reporters yesterday here in

2065
01:34:30,479 --> 01:34:33,000
Speaker 1: Inde he expects his surgically repair to hip to be

2066
01:34:33,160 --> 01:34:36,120
Speaker 1: medically cleared March ninth. It appears as test set to

2067
01:34:36,160 --> 01:34:38,559
Speaker 1: combine have done pretty well for him and the Buffalo

2068
01:34:38,640 --> 01:34:40,840
Speaker 1: Savers in action. They started a four game road trip

2069
01:34:41,000 --> 01:34:43,759
Speaker 1: with a game of Colorado tonight, faceoff set for eight PM.

2070
01:34:44,040 --> 01:34:48,240
Speaker 1: Wayne Simmons and Dominic Calhoun, both on the trip. Gohout

2071
01:34:48,280 --> 01:34:50,360
Speaker 1: scheduled to meet the team in Denver. Both expected to

2072
01:34:50,400 --> 01:34:52,360
Speaker 1: be in the line of tonight. It's an eight o'clock

2073
01:34:52,400 --> 01:34:55,920
Speaker 1: faceoff on nbcsn n w g R Sports Radio five five.

2074
01:34:56,240 --> 01:34:58,320
Speaker 1: And that is the update from the Indian Apple, the

2075
01:34:58,360 --> 01:35:12,360
Speaker 1: scouting combine for the NFL. OH time textown textown, text

2076
01:35:13,080 --> 01:35:22,439
Speaker 1: text down over time. They welcome back to the NFL's

2077
01:35:22,439 --> 01:35:24,960
Speaker 1: County Combine run Rope Steam Basher in the special games.

2078
01:35:25,040 --> 01:35:27,400
Speaker 1: We see him during the regular season every week Field

2079
01:35:27,400 --> 01:35:31,360
Speaker 1: Gates NFL Inside. This is fun, it's good and waits.

2080
01:35:31,400 --> 01:35:33,519
Speaker 1: We always talk on Wednesdays during the season, so we're

2081
01:35:33,600 --> 01:35:37,920
Speaker 1: keeping tradition alive or Wednesday chats different locations, and usually

2082
01:35:38,000 --> 01:35:40,040
Speaker 1: on Wednesdays when we reach you, you're eating lunch. I'm

2083
01:35:40,120 --> 01:35:42,800
Speaker 1: kind of healthy a lot of Yeah, well it sends

2084
01:35:42,840 --> 01:35:44,640
Speaker 1: tend it is the same time of your week, so

2085
01:35:44,760 --> 01:35:47,400
Speaker 1: like you tend to be either lunch or onto the

2086
01:35:47,479 --> 01:35:50,000
Speaker 1: first snack of the afternoon. It's always healthy though, and

2087
01:35:50,080 --> 01:35:52,519
Speaker 1: we are junk food all day. Yeah, I'm a routine eater.

2088
01:35:52,600 --> 01:35:54,800
Speaker 1: It's like snack it. But I snack too. I'm just

2089
01:35:54,840 --> 01:35:56,479
Speaker 1: like a bunny rabbit something I don't like. I'm just

2090
01:35:56,640 --> 01:36:00,559
Speaker 1: constantly grabbing something to have. Fruit and vegetables were no fruit. Hey,

2091
01:36:00,800 --> 01:36:02,439
Speaker 1: it's great day here. It's great Davy here on a

2092
01:36:02,479 --> 01:36:04,599
Speaker 1: day when it looks like the CBA took a big

2093
01:36:04,680 --> 01:36:08,400
Speaker 1: step forward last night, the NFLPA kind of pass it

2094
01:36:08,479 --> 01:36:10,559
Speaker 1: on to the entire membership. All it needs is as

2095
01:36:10,600 --> 01:36:12,160
Speaker 1: a full vote of the membership, that's right, And it

2096
01:36:12,200 --> 01:36:14,360
Speaker 1: needs a majority of the active players are going to

2097
01:36:14,400 --> 01:36:18,600
Speaker 1: be voting on this proposed collective bargaining agreements. And I

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01:36:18,680 --> 01:36:20,639
Speaker 1: get the sent I would just say the general tenor

2099
01:36:21,360 --> 01:36:25,519
Speaker 1: is that while the players probably wish there is more

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01:36:25,760 --> 01:36:29,640
Speaker 1: that they might want in this deal. They understand the

2101
01:36:29,720 --> 01:36:34,120
Speaker 1: responsibility of representing not just the players at the highest level.

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01:36:34,520 --> 01:36:38,559
Speaker 1: It's not about what somebody who like Drew Brees, who

2103
01:36:38,640 --> 01:36:41,280
Speaker 1: has made you know, probably a quarter billion dollars in

2104
01:36:41,439 --> 01:36:45,720
Speaker 1: terms of salary, is most focused on. You've got to

2105
01:36:45,760 --> 01:36:49,240
Speaker 1: think about players who make the team as an undrafted

2106
01:36:49,280 --> 01:36:51,880
Speaker 1: free agents and may only play three years in the NFL,

2107
01:36:51,960 --> 01:36:54,679
Speaker 1: and what would best serve them for those three years.

2108
01:36:54,760 --> 01:36:56,720
Speaker 1: So you're appeasing, or at least you're doing your best

2109
01:36:56,760 --> 01:36:58,240
Speaker 1: to appease a lot of people. So I get the

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01:36:58,320 --> 01:37:02,240
Speaker 1: sense that while the deal posed maybe imperfect, it may

2111
01:37:02,360 --> 01:37:05,160
Speaker 1: also be a deal that makes a massive step forward

2112
01:37:05,200 --> 01:37:08,439
Speaker 1: relative to wear. How does it help well. Also, one

2113
01:37:08,479 --> 01:37:11,000
Speaker 1: of the proposed portions I guess at this point they're

2114
01:37:11,000 --> 01:37:14,400
Speaker 1: all proposers, but one of the parts of this proposed

2115
01:37:14,439 --> 01:37:20,200
Speaker 1: CBA is an improvements of the base salary for the

2116
01:37:20,520 --> 01:37:23,120
Speaker 1: minimum salary, I should say, more specifically for players. So

2117
01:37:23,200 --> 01:37:25,439
Speaker 1: you've got guys that and I understand that there are

2118
01:37:25,479 --> 01:37:27,519
Speaker 1: people who work incredibly hard for their entire life and

2119
01:37:27,560 --> 01:37:29,880
Speaker 1: never make a six figure salary. But when you're a

2120
01:37:29,920 --> 01:37:31,880
Speaker 1: player who may only have three years to do this

2121
01:37:32,479 --> 01:37:34,639
Speaker 1: and you have the opportunity to make maybe an additional

2122
01:37:34,720 --> 01:37:38,160
Speaker 1: one hundred thousand dollars per season, that substantial capital that

2123
01:37:38,200 --> 01:37:40,479
Speaker 1: if you invest it wisely, can be I don't know

2124
01:37:40,520 --> 01:37:43,360
Speaker 1: if it's necessarily life altering money, or at least life

2125
01:37:43,439 --> 01:37:46,519
Speaker 1: savings money, but it can be. It can be life altering.

2126
01:37:46,760 --> 01:37:48,200
Speaker 1: One of the things about it is it gets the

2127
01:37:48,280 --> 01:37:52,639
Speaker 1: bottom of the league closer and more guys included into

2128
01:37:53,520 --> 01:37:55,479
Speaker 1: a career. If they can get invested in the union,

2129
01:37:55,600 --> 01:37:57,880
Speaker 1: get three years into the union, it gets them closer

2130
01:37:57,920 --> 01:38:00,479
Speaker 1: to having life changing income for a short period of

2131
01:38:00,520 --> 01:38:03,080
Speaker 1: time that they can if they're smart and if they're true,

2132
01:38:03,200 --> 01:38:06,920
Speaker 1: they can give them a much better springboard towards a

2133
01:38:07,040 --> 01:38:10,559
Speaker 1: better life for decades to come. And there are also

2134
01:38:10,680 --> 01:38:14,160
Speaker 1: things in there for old old guys like me, boost

2135
01:38:14,200 --> 01:38:16,280
Speaker 1: the pension at the four o one, all the stuff

2136
01:38:16,360 --> 01:38:18,519
Speaker 1: that will carry these guys a little bit longer into

2137
01:38:18,520 --> 01:38:21,320
Speaker 1: their future. Yeah, I think it's And again I want

2138
01:38:21,360 --> 01:38:24,679
Speaker 1: to stress that when you're a negotiary, when you're discussing

2139
01:38:24,920 --> 01:38:28,040
Speaker 1: a CBA, even when it's been passed or if it

2140
01:38:28,080 --> 01:38:30,240
Speaker 1: doesn't pass, which it sounds, I think the winds are

2141
01:38:30,280 --> 01:38:33,360
Speaker 1: blowing towards this CBA being agreed to in passing is

2142
01:38:33,439 --> 01:38:35,519
Speaker 1: that there are going to be people that have very

2143
01:38:35,640 --> 01:38:37,960
Speaker 1: very strong opinions that this is a deal that is

2144
01:38:38,000 --> 01:38:41,040
Speaker 1: decidedly better for the owners. They're going to be people

2145
01:38:41,080 --> 01:38:44,280
Speaker 1: that feel with a very strong opinion that this is

2146
01:38:44,439 --> 01:38:47,559
Speaker 1: a deal that is an improvement for the players. They're

2147
01:38:47,600 --> 01:38:49,400
Speaker 1: going to be some that feel as though it's sort

2148
01:38:49,439 --> 01:38:53,360
Speaker 1: of status quo. It's going to generate a lot of opinions. Ultimately,

2149
01:38:54,280 --> 01:38:57,720
Speaker 1: it's important to remember how difficult it is for a

2150
01:38:58,280 --> 01:39:01,400
Speaker 1: executive committee of eleven people the NFLPA to find a

2151
01:39:01,479 --> 01:39:05,320
Speaker 1: deal that makes every single player happy, because it's such

2152
01:39:05,320 --> 01:39:08,200
Speaker 1: a large sample. Understanding, we had hope to have Lorenzo

2153
01:39:08,240 --> 01:39:11,479
Speaker 1: Alexander Farmer, Bill Slinebecker, he's a member of that executive committee.

2154
01:39:11,680 --> 01:39:14,840
Speaker 1: He took off this morning, maybe because of this, But

2155
01:39:15,200 --> 01:39:18,120
Speaker 1: how did the executive committee approve the terms of that

2156
01:39:18,240 --> 01:39:20,560
Speaker 1: deal with the owners and then vote against it? So

2157
01:39:20,840 --> 01:39:24,719
Speaker 1: with the executive committee votes, to my understanding, it works

2158
01:39:24,880 --> 01:39:30,479
Speaker 1: like this. It is eleven members of that committee, and

2159
01:39:30,920 --> 01:39:37,000
Speaker 1: those member eleven members basically proposes what they believe the

2160
01:39:37,200 --> 01:39:40,040
Speaker 1: players should follow suit. Hey, if it were only up

2161
01:39:40,120 --> 01:39:44,320
Speaker 1: to us, we would suggest that you do not okay,

2162
01:39:45,080 --> 01:39:47,720
Speaker 1: approve this or vote for this to steal the renegotiated.

2163
01:39:47,760 --> 01:39:50,600
Speaker 1: Now that being said, they still have a responsibility to

2164
01:39:50,760 --> 01:39:55,200
Speaker 1: funnel it to the NFLPA board at large. I gain

2165
01:39:55,280 --> 01:39:57,759
Speaker 1: by reason the word board. But it's the thirty two players,

2166
01:39:58,040 --> 01:40:00,720
Speaker 1: one from each team who had a sub pbsequent vote,

2167
01:40:00,800 --> 01:40:04,080
Speaker 1: and ultimately those thirty two members needed a majority, so

2168
01:40:04,120 --> 01:40:07,600
Speaker 1: at least seventeen votes to move forward by sending it

2169
01:40:07,680 --> 01:40:10,960
Speaker 1: to all players, and it was seventeen fourteen to one

2170
01:40:11,040 --> 01:40:14,800
Speaker 1: according to reports, the one being the abstained vote unidentified,

2171
01:40:14,840 --> 01:40:17,680
Speaker 1: But someone just either did not feel comfortable or for

2172
01:40:17,760 --> 01:40:19,920
Speaker 1: whatever reason chose not to vote. They didn't put their

2173
01:40:19,920 --> 01:40:21,880
Speaker 1: stamp up approval on it either, right, They just sent

2174
01:40:21,960 --> 01:40:24,120
Speaker 1: it forward to the membership and I faced filtering it

2175
01:40:24,200 --> 01:40:26,920
Speaker 1: down and the logistics of it is now they put

2176
01:40:26,960 --> 01:40:29,120
Speaker 1: it to the rank and file of the NFL players,

2177
01:40:29,160 --> 01:40:30,800
Speaker 1: which is what is going to happen. How does that

2178
01:40:31,200 --> 01:40:33,240
Speaker 1: is it? By phone? The guys just call up and say, hey,

2179
01:40:33,360 --> 01:40:35,400
Speaker 1: this is me, here's my phone number. You've got it,

2180
01:40:35,560 --> 01:40:37,400
Speaker 1: and this is my vote kind of thing, because they

2181
01:40:37,640 --> 01:40:39,679
Speaker 1: you can't get these guys all together. Well, think about

2182
01:40:39,720 --> 01:40:41,320
Speaker 1: part of the reason why there was so much urgency

2183
01:40:41,360 --> 01:40:42,840
Speaker 1: to get this deal done as we have the free

2184
01:40:42,880 --> 01:40:46,519
Speaker 1: agency period right around the corner, and now it sounds

2185
01:40:46,560 --> 01:40:48,320
Speaker 1: like it's going to be a multi week process for

2186
01:40:48,439 --> 01:40:50,920
Speaker 1: all these votes to come through, And part of it's

2187
01:40:50,920 --> 01:40:52,599
Speaker 1: probably the logistics, like how do you do it? There

2188
01:40:52,640 --> 01:40:54,800
Speaker 1: might be guys who worked incredibly hard for the past

2189
01:40:54,840 --> 01:40:57,000
Speaker 1: six months who are in a different corner of the world,

2190
01:40:57,080 --> 01:40:59,600
Speaker 1: vacationing with their family right now, like how they how

2191
01:40:59,640 --> 01:41:01,920
Speaker 1: do you just phone everybody up and get an answer

2192
01:41:02,040 --> 01:41:04,880
Speaker 1: right away without edifying them first, Right, you got to

2193
01:41:04,880 --> 01:41:07,400
Speaker 1: teach these guys or you have to explain to these guys.

2194
01:41:07,600 --> 01:41:10,960
Speaker 1: Here is what is available on the table, and here

2195
01:41:10,960 --> 01:41:13,040
Speaker 1: are the reasons why we believe it's a strong deal.

2196
01:41:13,120 --> 01:41:15,240
Speaker 1: Here the questions we have, and it's up to you

2197
01:41:15,320 --> 01:41:16,640
Speaker 1: and make a decision. So I think it would be

2198
01:41:16,640 --> 01:41:18,960
Speaker 1: a complicated process over the next couple of weeks, which

2199
01:41:19,600 --> 01:41:21,320
Speaker 1: we don't really have time to waste here. I mean,

2200
01:41:21,360 --> 01:41:23,320
Speaker 1: I shouldn't say we do in the sense that we

2201
01:41:23,400 --> 01:41:25,559
Speaker 1: need to have the best deal done, but free agencies

2202
01:41:25,560 --> 01:41:27,120
Speaker 1: are right around the corner, and there are some guys

2203
01:41:27,160 --> 01:41:30,360
Speaker 1: who may have a chance for money that will make

2204
01:41:30,400 --> 01:41:33,519
Speaker 1: their life an entirely different one and they're probably saying

2205
01:41:33,600 --> 01:41:36,160
Speaker 1: there's an emergency here that they want to have some resolution,

2206
01:41:36,240 --> 01:41:38,000
Speaker 1: as do the owners. I want to talk you about

2207
01:41:38,040 --> 01:41:39,800
Speaker 1: some of the terms. We don't want to get deep

2208
01:41:39,880 --> 01:41:43,280
Speaker 1: into the weeds here, but in general, it seems and

2209
01:41:43,360 --> 01:41:45,479
Speaker 1: I will get the more specific terms in a moment.

2210
01:41:45,680 --> 01:41:48,160
Speaker 1: There's so much money being made that the players Association

2211
01:41:48,280 --> 01:41:50,960
Speaker 1: says not the best deal. But shoot, fellows, we're making

2212
01:41:50,960 --> 01:41:52,400
Speaker 1: a ton of money. We got to take this. Are

2213
01:41:52,439 --> 01:41:54,800
Speaker 1: we making more progress relative to where we were before?

2214
01:41:55,000 --> 01:41:58,160
Speaker 1: Is the revenue share more substantial than where it was before.

2215
01:41:58,280 --> 01:42:00,320
Speaker 1: It sounds like revenue share as a chance to reach

2216
01:42:00,360 --> 01:42:02,680
Speaker 1: forty eight and a half percent. Previously, I think the

2217
01:42:02,720 --> 01:42:04,920
Speaker 1: ceiling was forty eight percent and people are saying point

2218
01:42:05,000 --> 01:42:08,680
Speaker 1: five percent. Well, when you're talking about you know, billion dollars,

2219
01:42:09,439 --> 01:42:12,120
Speaker 1: it can make money now, particularly over the course of

2220
01:42:12,200 --> 01:42:14,360
Speaker 1: the content. And here's what you gotta remember. It is

2221
01:42:14,400 --> 01:42:18,080
Speaker 1: if this is a five year deal, that five billion dollars,

2222
01:42:18,200 --> 01:42:19,720
Speaker 1: it's a billion dollars a year. If it's a ten

2223
01:42:19,800 --> 01:42:22,120
Speaker 1: year deal and it cuts that in half per year, sure,

2224
01:42:22,320 --> 01:42:25,120
Speaker 1: so the length of this CBA is also going to

2225
01:42:25,200 --> 01:42:27,200
Speaker 1: be something that it's ten years, right, isn't it what

2226
01:42:27,240 --> 01:42:30,080
Speaker 1: they ten years. Yeah, that's five hundred million a year,

2227
01:42:30,160 --> 01:42:32,800
Speaker 1: divided by the thirty two teams. So they starts to

2228
01:42:33,040 --> 01:42:35,599
Speaker 1: start to get chopped divided by the fifty three players

2229
01:42:35,640 --> 01:42:38,800
Speaker 1: on the roster, you know. So it chops it up

2230
01:42:38,800 --> 01:42:41,840
Speaker 1: pretty quick. It does it definitely, And so point five

2231
01:42:41,880 --> 01:42:43,560
Speaker 1: percent doesn't sound like much, and then it sounds like

2232
01:42:43,560 --> 01:42:45,120
Speaker 1: a lot when you talk about it in terms of billions.

2233
01:42:45,120 --> 01:42:47,920
Speaker 1: But you're right, like, it's not as if every player

2234
01:42:48,120 --> 01:42:51,000
Speaker 1: is going to celebrate the potential CBA and go buy

2235
01:42:51,000 --> 01:42:53,840
Speaker 1: a Lamborghini. It's more that like it's it's compared to

2236
01:42:53,880 --> 01:42:57,519
Speaker 1: where you were previously. And so because everybody's got a

2237
01:42:57,600 --> 01:42:59,280
Speaker 1: voice with Twitter, I think that we are certainly going

2238
01:42:59,360 --> 01:43:02,040
Speaker 1: to see a lot of people opine. But it's also

2239
01:43:02,120 --> 01:43:05,080
Speaker 1: going to be that there are guys who may not

2240
01:43:05,160 --> 01:43:07,120
Speaker 1: believe it's the best deal for them, but understand why

2241
01:43:07,160 --> 01:43:09,040
Speaker 1: it was done. Stuff. One of the problems too is

2242
01:43:09,120 --> 01:43:11,479
Speaker 1: and the misnomers is you get a guy like JJ

2243
01:43:11,640 --> 01:43:15,600
Speaker 1: Watt and Richard Sherman, who were prominent players. Most of

2244
01:43:15,640 --> 01:43:17,519
Speaker 1: the players in the league are not in their position

2245
01:43:17,640 --> 01:43:21,519
Speaker 1: correct and do not agree with them because I listen,

2246
01:43:21,600 --> 01:43:25,080
Speaker 1: I haven't made I'm assigned a nine figure deal. Sure,

2247
01:43:25,280 --> 01:43:27,760
Speaker 1: you know, I as you guys have. I'll just use

2248
01:43:27,800 --> 01:43:31,160
Speaker 1: an example on the Bill's roster and don't know anything specifically,

2249
01:43:31,200 --> 01:43:33,800
Speaker 1: just an example. Robert Foster signed an undrafted free agent

2250
01:43:33,840 --> 01:43:37,400
Speaker 1: two years ago. Right, He's made certainly more money than

2251
01:43:37,479 --> 01:43:39,680
Speaker 1: probably you know, ninety nine percent of the people that

2252
01:43:39,800 --> 01:43:41,800
Speaker 1: were part of his Alabama class when he was there.

2253
01:43:42,320 --> 01:43:44,760
Speaker 1: But still, you know, he's sitting there saying, like, you know,

2254
01:43:44,960 --> 01:43:47,880
Speaker 1: I haven't put to your points, one hundred million in

2255
01:43:47,920 --> 01:43:50,200
Speaker 1: the bank. You know, like if this deal improves my

2256
01:43:50,360 --> 01:43:53,519
Speaker 1: livelihood by substantial portion over the next few years, then

2257
01:43:53,760 --> 01:43:56,360
Speaker 1: he would have some incentive to be a proponent of it.

2258
01:43:56,800 --> 01:43:58,759
Speaker 1: I'm not speaking for him anyway, Just use an example

2259
01:43:58,760 --> 01:44:00,960
Speaker 1: of an undrafted free agent enter the league that way

2260
01:44:01,000 --> 01:44:03,320
Speaker 1: that made say to himself, all right, I get it,

2261
01:44:03,520 --> 01:44:05,479
Speaker 1: Like there are reasons why I understand it's not perfect.

2262
01:44:05,560 --> 01:44:07,439
Speaker 1: But also we've come a long way compared to where

2263
01:44:07,439 --> 01:44:10,519
Speaker 1: we were with Field Yates ESPN NFL Insider talking about

2264
01:44:10,560 --> 01:44:13,439
Speaker 1: the CBA. One of the things that we're in was

2265
01:44:13,479 --> 01:44:16,160
Speaker 1: in there before this weekend and before yesterday even was

2266
01:44:16,240 --> 01:44:19,160
Speaker 1: the provision for a seventeenth game, which is coming and

2267
01:44:19,280 --> 01:44:21,519
Speaker 1: they'd get a cap of two hundred fifty thousand dollars

2268
01:44:21,560 --> 01:44:23,639
Speaker 1: on the seventeenth game that's gone under this deal. Yeah,

2269
01:44:23,680 --> 01:44:25,479
Speaker 1: it sounds like the two hundred fifty thousand dollars cap

2270
01:44:25,640 --> 01:44:28,720
Speaker 1: is now at other eliminated entirely or modified. But it

2271
01:44:28,800 --> 01:44:31,599
Speaker 1: sounds like elimitated entirely, so, which is good, I think,

2272
01:44:31,760 --> 01:44:34,320
Speaker 1: because that didn't make sense, and I know that there

2273
01:44:34,360 --> 01:44:36,439
Speaker 1: were some nuance to it, and people pointed out it

2274
01:44:36,439 --> 01:44:39,519
Speaker 1: wouldn't take place until twenty twenty one, and you know

2275
01:44:39,640 --> 01:44:41,760
Speaker 1: it was there only a certain number of guys that

2276
01:44:42,080 --> 01:44:43,760
Speaker 1: currently had a base salary. But there a couple of

2277
01:44:43,800 --> 01:44:46,479
Speaker 1: reasons why I thought it was, you know, it was flawed.

2278
01:44:46,560 --> 01:44:49,080
Speaker 1: First of all, if I'm not mistaken, Aaron Rodgers is

2279
01:44:49,200 --> 01:44:51,280
Speaker 1: twenty five million dollars base salary in twenty twenty one,

2280
01:44:51,320 --> 01:44:53,479
Speaker 1: which means he would earn one point four seven million

2281
01:44:53,520 --> 01:44:55,599
Speaker 1: dollars per week. Now I get it. When you're making

2282
01:44:55,640 --> 01:44:58,320
Speaker 1: twenty five million dollars, you can survive if you only

2283
01:44:58,360 --> 01:45:00,240
Speaker 1: get two hundred fifty k for an extra week. That's

2284
01:45:00,280 --> 01:45:02,640
Speaker 1: not the point. The point is that if you negotiated

2285
01:45:02,680 --> 01:45:04,639
Speaker 1: the deal that paid you one point four seven million

2286
01:45:04,680 --> 01:45:06,400
Speaker 1: dollars per week and then they say, you know what,

2287
01:45:06,439 --> 01:45:08,040
Speaker 1: you got to work more, but you paid a whole

2288
01:45:08,040 --> 01:45:10,280
Speaker 1: lot less. None of us would do that, right, I mean,

2289
01:45:10,360 --> 01:45:12,280
Speaker 1: that's just not how it works. And then the other

2290
01:45:12,360 --> 01:45:14,519
Speaker 1: thing is, you know a lot of these teams rely

2291
01:45:14,720 --> 01:45:17,120
Speaker 1: and I don't know exactly how the seventeenth game will

2292
01:45:17,120 --> 01:45:20,160
Speaker 1: be addressed, but you guys, I'm sure you've seen it.

2293
01:45:20,200 --> 01:45:22,280
Speaker 1: There are a lot of teams that will rely upon

2294
01:45:22,640 --> 01:45:26,960
Speaker 1: converting a significant portion of a player's base salary into

2295
01:45:27,000 --> 01:45:30,679
Speaker 1: a signing bonus to create immediate cap space and push

2296
01:45:30,920 --> 01:45:34,439
Speaker 1: money into future years. Well, if a team says, hey,

2297
01:45:34,479 --> 01:45:36,400
Speaker 1: you know what, let's lower your base salary from ten

2298
01:45:36,479 --> 01:45:38,800
Speaker 1: million to one million and turn that nine million into

2299
01:45:38,840 --> 01:45:40,880
Speaker 1: a signing bonus, well, then all of a sudden, if

2300
01:45:40,920 --> 01:45:43,320
Speaker 1: you're making you know, a seventeenth game at the rate

2301
01:45:43,439 --> 01:45:46,280
Speaker 1: of your base salary, well you could all of a sudden,

2302
01:45:46,360 --> 01:45:48,400
Speaker 1: have you know, if you go from ten million to

2303
01:45:48,479 --> 01:45:50,720
Speaker 1: one million, that seventeenth game becomes a whole lot cheaper

2304
01:45:50,760 --> 01:45:52,479
Speaker 1: for you would have no motivation to do that. And

2305
01:45:52,640 --> 01:45:56,000
Speaker 1: here's the thing as well, in two years and a

2306
01:45:56,120 --> 01:45:58,400
Speaker 1: significant portion of the National Football League will have signed

2307
01:45:58,439 --> 01:46:01,200
Speaker 1: new contracts anyway, So you're only going to have, you know,

2308
01:46:01,520 --> 01:46:04,280
Speaker 1: guys who really have recently signed long term deals. A

2309
01:46:04,360 --> 01:46:05,800
Speaker 1: lot of guys are on one year deals or two

2310
01:46:05,840 --> 01:46:07,439
Speaker 1: year deals, are at the end of their rookie All

2311
01:46:07,439 --> 01:46:09,640
Speaker 1: the guys in the last two years, their last four

2312
01:46:09,680 --> 01:46:11,639
Speaker 1: or five years, are in the end of it. Don't

2313
01:46:11,640 --> 01:46:14,800
Speaker 1: be done with their contracts anyway. Question before that comes up,

2314
01:46:14,840 --> 01:46:18,320
Speaker 1: So there's you're only talking about what ten percent or

2315
01:46:18,360 --> 01:46:20,479
Speaker 1: twenty percent of the entire league that will even be

2316
01:46:20,560 --> 01:46:23,280
Speaker 1: affected by this contractually. Yeah, and it'll be really interesting

2317
01:46:23,439 --> 01:46:24,960
Speaker 1: and a lot of times what we find, at least

2318
01:46:24,960 --> 01:46:27,000
Speaker 1: I find, is that a lot of the sticking points

2319
01:46:27,000 --> 01:46:27,960
Speaker 1: are a lot of the things that are sort of

2320
01:46:28,000 --> 01:46:30,560
Speaker 1: salient right when the deal is negotiated or agreed to

2321
01:46:31,000 --> 01:46:33,639
Speaker 1: or announced, we think of them in a certain way,

2322
01:46:34,360 --> 01:46:37,400
Speaker 1: and then once the deal actually takes effect, things change

2323
01:46:37,400 --> 01:46:39,880
Speaker 1: a little bit, right, and it's here's how, here is

2324
01:46:40,479 --> 01:46:44,320
Speaker 1: what how it really impacts players and teams going forward.

2325
01:46:45,920 --> 01:46:49,400
Speaker 1: I will say that we can probably all state that

2326
01:46:49,560 --> 01:46:51,640
Speaker 1: we are happy that we are on the doorstep of

2327
01:46:51,680 --> 01:46:54,720
Speaker 1: a deal being done. At the same time where we

2328
01:46:54,800 --> 01:46:56,599
Speaker 1: all in Stevie played the league for a long time,

2329
01:46:56,640 --> 01:47:00,559
Speaker 1: we all want what's best for the players who there,

2330
01:47:00,600 --> 01:47:02,080
Speaker 1: it's life and limb for them, right, I mean, they're

2331
01:47:02,360 --> 01:47:04,479
Speaker 1: it's not an easy job. And we know the the

2332
01:47:04,640 --> 01:47:07,439
Speaker 1: physical rescue incur as a player by playing a sport

2333
01:47:07,479 --> 01:47:09,840
Speaker 1: that we all love, but also heads that's some natural

2334
01:47:09,920 --> 01:47:11,519
Speaker 1: risk to it. Hey feel that I've been thinking about

2335
01:47:11,560 --> 01:47:14,479
Speaker 1: what this new CBA might mean to fans and that

2336
01:47:14,600 --> 01:47:16,639
Speaker 1: a lot of it is schedule related. When the seventeen

2337
01:47:16,720 --> 01:47:19,240
Speaker 1: game schedule comes twenty one or twenty two, whatever season

2338
01:47:19,320 --> 01:47:22,240
Speaker 1: that is, apparently they're gonna play nine home, eight away

2339
01:47:22,360 --> 01:47:24,640
Speaker 1: or eight away nine home. That's one. Also, they're down

2340
01:47:24,680 --> 01:47:26,639
Speaker 1: to one bye week. They were talking about two bye weeks.

2341
01:47:26,680 --> 01:47:28,479
Speaker 1: Now it's gonna be one bye week. It's a change.

2342
01:47:28,479 --> 01:47:30,200
Speaker 1: It all feels a little weird to me. Yeah, only

2343
01:47:30,280 --> 01:47:32,880
Speaker 1: because you know, for a long time, like I just

2344
01:47:33,840 --> 01:47:37,200
Speaker 1: we went twelve and five last year, eleven and five. Yeah,

2345
01:47:38,200 --> 01:47:40,559
Speaker 1: that's a little different, right, you know, like that's that's

2346
01:47:40,600 --> 01:47:43,000
Speaker 1: how it works, so that'll be different. Just the idea

2347
01:47:43,160 --> 01:47:47,000
Speaker 1: that I mean, we think there's an advantage, we prescribe

2348
01:47:47,040 --> 01:47:49,760
Speaker 1: an advantage to playing at home. I mean, you guys,

2349
01:47:50,040 --> 01:47:52,680
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, Western New York, you know, it gets

2350
01:47:52,720 --> 01:47:54,439
Speaker 1: it gets brought in there, but all got interested in

2351
01:47:54,520 --> 01:47:57,080
Speaker 1: into the tiebreakers for playoffs. Yeah. I mean, imagine if

2352
01:47:57,200 --> 01:48:00,400
Speaker 1: you had nine playoff home blames. We only had eight, right, No, So,

2353
01:48:00,520 --> 01:48:02,439
Speaker 1: like you know, and I understand that, like it's gonna

2354
01:48:02,479 --> 01:48:05,080
Speaker 1: balance out year every year and you're gonna play nine

2355
01:48:05,160 --> 01:48:07,080
Speaker 1: one year at home within eighth the next year. But still,

2356
01:48:07,160 --> 01:48:09,599
Speaker 1: like you know, there are two teams fighting for six

2357
01:48:09,680 --> 01:48:12,040
Speaker 1: playoffs I guess the seventh playoff spot now, and they're saying,

2358
01:48:12,240 --> 01:48:14,080
Speaker 1: what the heck man, Like, we got an extra away

2359
01:48:14,120 --> 01:48:16,200
Speaker 1: game this year and we happen to play a division winner.

2360
01:48:16,640 --> 01:48:18,560
Speaker 1: That's gonna sit poorly with some teams. But at the

2361
01:48:18,600 --> 01:48:21,800
Speaker 1: same time, part of it, as we talked about the

2362
01:48:21,840 --> 01:48:23,800
Speaker 1: revenue sharing and the amount of money going up, Well

2363
01:48:23,800 --> 01:48:25,559
Speaker 1: you add a seventeenth game, there's a whole lot more

2364
01:48:25,640 --> 01:48:28,080
Speaker 1: money about to be made, right, I guess the end

2365
01:48:28,120 --> 01:48:30,920
Speaker 1: of preseason game gone. In summary, it's good that it's

2366
01:48:30,960 --> 01:48:32,840
Speaker 1: done right, and it's good for the for the whole league.

2367
01:48:32,840 --> 01:48:34,799
Speaker 1: It's good for fans. I'm thinking of a fan perspective

2368
01:48:34,840 --> 01:48:37,120
Speaker 1: that you're thinking, good, no interruption, I got football for

2369
01:48:37,240 --> 01:48:40,360
Speaker 1: ten more years for fans. Fans won't know the difference, right,

2370
01:48:40,400 --> 01:48:42,080
Speaker 1: It's gonna say, I don't mean to be It's not

2371
01:48:42,200 --> 01:48:44,280
Speaker 1: that we are not singing to be insulting of what

2372
01:48:44,360 --> 01:48:46,679
Speaker 1: their understanding of it is. But certainly fans I think

2373
01:48:47,360 --> 01:48:50,280
Speaker 1: they are probably It's the headline for them is ten

2374
01:48:50,320 --> 01:48:54,160
Speaker 1: more years of football. Right. The details are seventeenth game

2375
01:48:54,240 --> 01:48:56,719
Speaker 1: and some other things like that, but extra playoff teams.

2376
01:48:56,720 --> 01:48:59,080
Speaker 1: There are things that certainly players care a lot more

2377
01:48:59,520 --> 01:49:02,280
Speaker 1: about than people that are watching him, and you understand why.

2378
01:49:02,320 --> 01:49:04,479
Speaker 1: It's their livelihood, the changes things. Yeah, just nerds like

2379
01:49:04,600 --> 01:49:06,720
Speaker 1: us to worry about, feel the HR guests. All right,

2380
01:49:06,800 --> 01:49:09,439
Speaker 1: So the league can move ahead with well, let's start

2381
01:49:09,479 --> 01:49:11,680
Speaker 1: with where the NAVE will start free agency? Ye, now

2382
01:49:11,720 --> 01:49:14,200
Speaker 1: they can sign contracts for the Buffalo Bills. How should

2383
01:49:14,200 --> 01:49:17,200
Speaker 1: they approach free agency against the draft in terms of

2384
01:49:17,720 --> 01:49:20,720
Speaker 1: adding to what they want? In particular offense? I think yeah,

2385
01:49:20,880 --> 01:49:22,200
Speaker 1: I was gonna say so. I feel like a lot

2386
01:49:22,240 --> 01:49:24,799
Speaker 1: of times during the December when we're sort of discussing

2387
01:49:24,880 --> 01:49:26,599
Speaker 1: what the ceiling was for this team, we'd come back

2388
01:49:26,600 --> 01:49:28,960
Speaker 1: to the offense. So yeah, von Brandon Bean and uh,

2389
01:49:29,040 --> 01:49:30,479
Speaker 1: you know, I think Bills fans probably happy. I'm not

2390
01:49:30,640 --> 01:49:32,360
Speaker 1: they're happy the Brandon being brand of being or not

2391
01:49:32,479 --> 01:49:34,760
Speaker 1: me right, Um, I think you're sort of a value

2392
01:49:34,840 --> 01:49:35,960
Speaker 1: value a couple of things. So there were a lot

2393
01:49:36,000 --> 01:49:37,760
Speaker 1: of investments fan of the offensive line last year. Some

2394
01:49:37,840 --> 01:49:39,800
Speaker 1: of them were of one year or short term nature.

2395
01:49:39,800 --> 01:49:42,320
Speaker 1: So you got to figure out which guys are keepers,

2396
01:49:42,479 --> 01:49:45,160
Speaker 1: you know, and which guys uh specifically someone like a

2397
01:49:45,240 --> 01:49:47,559
Speaker 1: Dion Dawkins, Like, hey, at what point do you start

2398
01:49:47,600 --> 01:49:49,760
Speaker 1: to budget for the long term there for him? But

2399
01:49:50,200 --> 01:49:53,400
Speaker 1: I think that while there were some highlights late in

2400
01:49:53,479 --> 01:49:55,599
Speaker 1: the year from the tight end group, Dawson Knox gives

2401
01:49:55,640 --> 01:49:59,000
Speaker 1: has been promised there do we upgrade a wide receiver?

2402
01:49:59,160 --> 01:50:00,960
Speaker 1: Do we add another tight I know Brandon referred to

2403
01:50:00,960 --> 01:50:03,640
Speaker 1: as one of the deeper positions on the roster m

2404
01:50:04,120 --> 01:50:06,519
Speaker 1: but do we find this is a simple way of

2405
01:50:06,560 --> 01:50:10,720
Speaker 1: putting it, difference making players amongst the skill group and

2406
01:50:10,800 --> 01:50:12,960
Speaker 1: nothing those guys didn't have some difference making moments, but

2407
01:50:13,080 --> 01:50:16,960
Speaker 1: consistent difference making moments from the wide receiver spot seems

2408
01:50:16,960 --> 01:50:18,479
Speaker 1: to be one of the highlights of this class. I mean,

2409
01:50:18,520 --> 01:50:20,880
Speaker 1: there are so many wide receivers in this year's draft. Yeah, there,

2410
01:50:21,000 --> 01:50:23,759
Speaker 1: it's a deep class and there's you do have teams

2411
01:50:23,800 --> 01:50:25,880
Speaker 1: with needs and we had this a Twitter poll on

2412
01:50:25,920 --> 01:50:27,360
Speaker 1: the show last week, and I want to ask you

2413
01:50:27,400 --> 01:50:31,760
Speaker 1: about this, how one thing that drove the team, the

2414
01:50:31,880 --> 01:50:35,080
Speaker 1: Bills to the playoff run was the quality of their defense. Yeah,

2415
01:50:35,120 --> 01:50:36,920
Speaker 1: how much do you spend because you've got a couple

2416
01:50:36,960 --> 01:50:39,360
Speaker 1: of free agents on the front line, and this draft,

2417
01:50:39,640 --> 01:50:43,680
Speaker 1: given the depth on offensive playmakers of the outside, and

2418
01:50:43,840 --> 01:50:45,880
Speaker 1: there's a couple of running backs that are difference makers

2419
01:50:45,960 --> 01:50:48,400
Speaker 1: and you know, tight end all that stuff. Do you

2420
01:50:48,520 --> 01:50:52,800
Speaker 1: really want to allow your defense to regress or do

2421
01:50:52,880 --> 01:50:54,719
Speaker 1: you do you just go ahead and try and build

2422
01:50:54,720 --> 01:50:56,880
Speaker 1: it from the end. Which do you build on the

2423
01:50:56,960 --> 01:50:58,840
Speaker 1: strength or do you hammer away in the area that

2424
01:50:58,880 --> 01:51:01,120
Speaker 1: maybe continue to make is to keep your defense where

2425
01:51:01,120 --> 01:51:03,200
Speaker 1: it's at, or do you put all your eggs back

2426
01:51:03,200 --> 01:51:05,880
Speaker 1: into the offense? Yeah? I think that. So I'm gonna

2427
01:51:05,880 --> 01:51:07,360
Speaker 1: be a GM for I'm gonna sound like Brandon being

2428
01:51:07,439 --> 01:51:09,479
Speaker 1: here for a seconds, say, we draft for value, right,

2429
01:51:09,520 --> 01:51:11,760
Speaker 1: we don't draft for need? Which is true. I think

2430
01:51:11,760 --> 01:51:14,880
Speaker 1: you've seen that reflected. I mean, I don't, I don't know.

2431
01:51:15,080 --> 01:51:16,800
Speaker 1: I mean I thought the defensive tackle was a kneed

2432
01:51:16,840 --> 01:51:18,120
Speaker 1: last year for the Bills. I don't know it's a

2433
01:51:18,160 --> 01:51:20,120
Speaker 1: primary need. But when at Oliver sitting there for it,

2434
01:51:20,120 --> 01:51:22,360
Speaker 1: you're like, perfect, I'm gonna take a guy that might

2435
01:51:22,400 --> 01:51:25,160
Speaker 1: be the most talented player in the class. Um. So

2436
01:51:25,240 --> 01:51:27,639
Speaker 1: I think they are going to be drafting for value,

2437
01:51:28,000 --> 01:51:30,280
Speaker 1: not necessarily specific to a position. That being said, so,

2438
01:51:30,320 --> 01:51:33,200
Speaker 1: just sort of conceptually, I think the primary episodes should

2439
01:51:33,200 --> 01:51:35,640
Speaker 1: be improving the offense this year, right, and it's not

2440
01:51:35,800 --> 01:51:38,360
Speaker 1: just that you know, the wide receivers are impacted. You've

2441
01:51:38,360 --> 01:51:40,120
Speaker 1: got a quarterback with a ring year three and made

2442
01:51:40,120 --> 01:51:41,639
Speaker 1: a lot of strides from year one to year two,

2443
01:51:41,880 --> 01:51:43,280
Speaker 1: has some work to do. I would think he would

2444
01:51:43,280 --> 01:51:44,679
Speaker 1: even be the first to tell you there's some marreas

2445
01:51:44,720 --> 01:51:47,679
Speaker 1: he needs to improve upon. Um. And yes, it's gonna

2446
01:51:47,680 --> 01:51:49,040
Speaker 1: be a lot of that's going to be incumbent to

2447
01:51:49,160 --> 01:51:52,960
Speaker 1: Josh himself and what the work he puts in this offseason. Second, though,

2448
01:51:53,160 --> 01:51:55,439
Speaker 1: you're gonna have some You had some playmakers and all

2449
01:51:55,439 --> 01:51:57,160
Speaker 1: of a sudden, these what these these quarterbacks look a

2450
01:51:57,200 --> 01:51:58,560
Speaker 1: little bit better, right, I mean, it's just it's just

2451
01:51:58,720 --> 01:52:01,040
Speaker 1: sure make life easier around yet. So I would think

2452
01:52:01,080 --> 01:52:03,400
Speaker 1: that adding a couple more playmakers could go a long

2453
01:52:03,479 --> 01:52:05,040
Speaker 1: way for Josh Allen. It's good for us to get

2454
01:52:05,080 --> 01:52:07,479
Speaker 1: the show out of Orchard Park because the two days

2455
01:52:07,520 --> 01:52:10,120
Speaker 1: we've been here, I've written not that you're speaking negatively

2456
01:52:10,120 --> 01:52:12,800
Speaker 1: about Josh, but there's a different opinion about Josh Allen

2457
01:52:12,880 --> 01:52:15,400
Speaker 1: than in Orchard Park where we live and work. Steve

2458
01:52:15,439 --> 01:52:17,479
Speaker 1: and I right, So is the opinion that the opinions

2459
01:52:17,520 --> 01:52:19,439
Speaker 1: like he's got something more to show us, he needs

2460
01:52:19,439 --> 01:52:20,760
Speaker 1: to do more, right, Yeah, I can see that I

2461
01:52:20,800 --> 01:52:22,840
Speaker 1: agree with, which is fair. But that's fair, right, I mean,

2462
01:52:22,920 --> 01:52:24,880
Speaker 1: I mean, and you know who else has more to show?

2463
01:52:25,000 --> 01:52:27,439
Speaker 1: Like basically every quarterback in the NFL? Right, you know

2464
01:52:27,600 --> 01:52:30,040
Speaker 1: it's you got to Philadelphia and they've got Carson Wentz

2465
01:52:30,120 --> 01:52:32,600
Speaker 1: and Tay can we stay healthy and do it consistently?

2466
01:52:32,640 --> 01:52:33,800
Speaker 1: And he's a guy that a couple of years ago,

2467
01:52:33,920 --> 01:52:35,400
Speaker 1: you know, the MVP, you know what I mean. It's

2468
01:52:35,400 --> 01:52:38,840
Speaker 1: all over the league. So m every quarterback probably should.

2469
01:52:38,880 --> 01:52:40,840
Speaker 1: I mean, that's what makes the great ones great is

2470
01:52:40,920 --> 01:52:42,599
Speaker 1: that you know, you see Drew Brees still the harsh

2471
01:52:42,640 --> 01:52:44,360
Speaker 1: working guy in the Saints roster. Tom Brady is still

2472
01:52:44,479 --> 01:52:46,400
Speaker 1: maniac in terms of ways he works out. Like. That's

2473
01:52:46,439 --> 01:52:50,000
Speaker 1: what fuels greatness is the ability to identify the areas

2474
01:52:50,120 --> 01:52:53,160
Speaker 1: that may not be perfect and make them better. Each year.

2475
01:52:53,360 --> 01:52:56,799
Speaker 1: We see there's a huge population, or there's levels of quarterbacks.

2476
01:52:56,840 --> 01:53:00,320
Speaker 1: Certainly there's the Aaron Rodgers, Tom Brady's, Drew Breeses, even

2477
01:53:00,680 --> 01:53:02,960
Speaker 1: Philip Rivers, even though he's not with the charges. There's

2478
01:53:03,000 --> 01:53:04,639
Speaker 1: these guys that they don't have much to prove except

2479
01:53:04,640 --> 01:53:07,240
Speaker 1: that what do they got left? But then there's a

2480
01:53:08,600 --> 01:53:11,080
Speaker 1: group of quarterbacks like Ryan Tannehill, Well he did it

2481
01:53:11,120 --> 01:53:13,479
Speaker 1: for half a season, Yeah, you never did it in Miami,

2482
01:53:15,840 --> 01:53:19,000
Speaker 1: Jameis Winston, Marcus Mariota, Josh Allen would be in that.

2483
01:53:19,120 --> 01:53:22,800
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield, Sam Darnold, guys who have made strides. And

2484
01:53:23,160 --> 01:53:25,840
Speaker 1: the question becomes for most of those quarterbacks is all right,

2485
01:53:25,880 --> 01:53:29,720
Speaker 1: you've done some what else can you do? And do

2486
01:53:29,920 --> 01:53:32,919
Speaker 1: we have we seen enough or have we seen enough improvement?

2487
01:53:33,160 --> 01:53:35,080
Speaker 1: Or have you flatlined? Like in the case of Baker

2488
01:53:35,120 --> 01:53:37,400
Speaker 1: Mayfield took he kind of step took a step back,

2489
01:53:37,520 --> 01:53:40,080
Speaker 1: Yeah he did. Sam Darnold was like, he didn't step

2490
01:53:40,200 --> 01:53:42,960
Speaker 1: up like you thought he would. So it becomes are

2491
01:53:43,040 --> 01:53:45,640
Speaker 1: we willing to give you another year or are we

2492
01:53:45,720 --> 01:53:47,479
Speaker 1: going to jump in on the guys that are here now,

2493
01:53:47,600 --> 01:53:49,080
Speaker 1: or are we gonna go out in the free agent

2494
01:53:49,120 --> 01:53:51,160
Speaker 1: mark and grab one of these there's a change of scenery.

2495
01:53:51,400 --> 01:53:55,360
Speaker 1: There's a big population of quarterbacks. Is okay, what's our

2496
01:53:55,400 --> 01:53:57,559
Speaker 1: team gonna do with our guy? And has he given

2497
01:53:57,640 --> 01:53:59,639
Speaker 1: us enough to stick with him for at least another year.

2498
01:53:59,720 --> 01:54:02,160
Speaker 1: There's like twelve teams in the NFL that I think

2499
01:54:02,360 --> 01:54:04,759
Speaker 1: you can cross off the list of going quarterback shopping

2500
01:54:04,800 --> 01:54:07,880
Speaker 1: this offseason, and then everybody else. Some of them are

2501
01:54:07,920 --> 01:54:10,439
Speaker 1: clear and obvious. Some of them are wild cards. But

2502
01:54:10,560 --> 01:54:13,759
Speaker 1: it's going to be a zany of a quarterback offseason

2503
01:54:13,800 --> 01:54:15,680
Speaker 1: as I can return. And the twelve teams are the

2504
01:54:16,120 --> 01:54:18,800
Speaker 1: ones in the playoffs basically, Yeah, but even some of them, right,

2505
01:54:18,840 --> 01:54:20,400
Speaker 1: I mean, now, Ingle might have a quarterback question mark,

2506
01:54:20,479 --> 01:54:21,640
Speaker 1: Tidans have a quarterback. You know, I might have a

2507
01:54:21,760 --> 01:54:23,599
Speaker 1: quarterback question mark. Here, You've got all kinds of these

2508
01:54:23,640 --> 01:54:26,360
Speaker 1: guys that might have a quarterback question mark. They've got

2509
01:54:26,479 --> 01:54:28,720
Speaker 1: to answer, and some of it starts, really, I mean

2510
01:54:28,760 --> 01:54:30,360
Speaker 1: as soon as the franchise tag window, right, I mean,

2511
01:54:30,439 --> 01:54:32,040
Speaker 1: Ryan Tannell, it's a bit decision for Tennessee. Are they

2512
01:54:32,080 --> 01:54:34,040
Speaker 1: gonna tag them or they gonna say, go test the market.

2513
01:54:34,040 --> 01:54:35,280
Speaker 1: We'll see if we can get you back. Let me

2514
01:54:35,320 --> 01:54:37,360
Speaker 1: get you back to receivers for a second for the Bills.

2515
01:54:37,720 --> 01:54:41,120
Speaker 1: Should picking twenty two with all those receivers in the draft,

2516
01:54:41,200 --> 01:54:43,040
Speaker 1: should they wait, do they have to go first rounded

2517
01:54:43,160 --> 01:54:45,120
Speaker 1: receiver or should they go somewhere else and then get

2518
01:54:45,160 --> 01:54:46,640
Speaker 1: a second or third round or that may be able

2519
01:54:46,680 --> 01:54:48,280
Speaker 1: to play. I've heard Todd McShay I believe it was

2520
01:54:48,520 --> 01:54:50,280
Speaker 1: this morning on sports enters say that he thinks there

2521
01:54:50,360 --> 01:54:54,320
Speaker 1: might be twenty wide receivers that have top three round value.

2522
01:54:54,360 --> 01:54:56,920
Speaker 1: So you could be a little patient here. The Bills

2523
01:54:56,920 --> 01:54:59,920
Speaker 1: have spoken to formally and informally eleven different wide sounds

2524
01:55:00,000 --> 01:55:01,920
Speaker 1: about right to me. And they'll continue to do their

2525
01:55:01,960 --> 01:55:03,840
Speaker 1: homework throughout the week on these wide receivers and then

2526
01:55:03,840 --> 01:55:06,120
Speaker 1: they'll they'll test and they'll run and all the stuff

2527
01:55:06,160 --> 01:55:08,680
Speaker 1: that looks great on television. But a lot of these

2528
01:55:08,720 --> 01:55:11,360
Speaker 1: guys they did their work in the fall to prove that.

2529
01:55:11,520 --> 01:55:13,920
Speaker 1: You know, you take a use a top fifty five

2530
01:55:14,040 --> 01:55:16,480
Speaker 1: pick on me, it's gonna be money well spent. And

2531
01:55:16,560 --> 01:55:18,120
Speaker 1: what else should the Bills be looking for if not

2532
01:55:18,240 --> 01:55:21,640
Speaker 1: wide receivers? Rush guys offensive, so you probably never have

2533
01:55:21,760 --> 01:55:24,120
Speaker 1: enough edge rushers, right, and uh, you know, some some

2534
01:55:24,320 --> 01:55:27,160
Speaker 1: solid moments from a variety of different guys last year.

2535
01:55:27,240 --> 01:55:30,600
Speaker 1: But like play in play out, who is the one

2536
01:55:30,800 --> 01:55:33,640
Speaker 1: edge rusher that teams fear when they have their travel

2537
01:55:33,680 --> 01:55:35,920
Speaker 1: to Buffalo where they host the Buffalo Bills and not

2538
01:55:36,240 --> 01:55:38,240
Speaker 1: yet there? Now they can certainly that the guys can

2539
01:55:38,280 --> 01:55:41,480
Speaker 1: become there, But they've got such good cornerstones on defense

2540
01:55:41,520 --> 01:55:44,320
Speaker 1: at the second and third level. Nat Bolanos, certainly, Trenevious White,

2541
01:55:45,000 --> 01:55:46,920
Speaker 1: Micah Hi, Jordan Poy are all good players in the

2542
01:55:46,960 --> 01:55:50,040
Speaker 1: secondary amongst the other guys that they have found and developed.

2543
01:55:50,080 --> 01:55:51,800
Speaker 1: But I think if you can find one premium edge

2544
01:55:51,840 --> 01:55:53,560
Speaker 1: rusher to take the load off of the rest of

2545
01:55:53,600 --> 01:55:55,520
Speaker 1: the defense, change that. Now everybody wants one of those.

2546
01:55:56,080 --> 01:55:58,640
Speaker 1: How many are there in this draft? Not as strong

2547
01:55:58,640 --> 01:56:01,280
Speaker 1: as last year. Last year was the really strong draft class,

2548
01:56:01,320 --> 01:56:02,800
Speaker 1: and we thought that and it sort of turned out

2549
01:56:02,800 --> 01:56:04,360
Speaker 1: that way. You know, Nick Bosa a great player, and

2550
01:56:04,800 --> 01:56:07,720
Speaker 1: Josh Josh Allen the other Josh Allen for Jackson Mill's

2551
01:56:07,760 --> 01:56:10,120
Speaker 1: a really strong season. A bunch of guys find their way.

2552
01:56:10,400 --> 01:56:12,320
Speaker 1: Don't think it's quite I mean, the Chase Young is

2553
01:56:12,360 --> 01:56:15,360
Speaker 1: a prodigious talent, but he'll be long long gone before

2554
01:56:15,360 --> 01:56:17,280
Speaker 1: the Bills even think about making their pick. But what

2555
01:56:17,400 --> 01:56:20,320
Speaker 1: do you know about the kid from Iowa. This Epzaja

2556
01:56:20,440 --> 01:56:25,680
Speaker 1: Pessa big ye six six two eight two, big dude,

2557
01:56:25,960 --> 01:56:28,720
Speaker 1: great wingspan. He showed up to Iowa. It's a five

2558
01:56:28,760 --> 01:56:31,040
Speaker 1: star recruit, which Iowa typically finds the guys that no

2559
01:56:31,080 --> 01:56:33,040
Speaker 1: one else wants and developed him into good NFL players.

2560
01:56:33,280 --> 01:56:35,000
Speaker 1: He showed up out of Illinois, out of the state

2561
01:56:35,040 --> 01:56:37,760
Speaker 1: of Illinois to Iowa, five star recruit and then lived

2562
01:56:37,800 --> 01:56:42,760
Speaker 1: up the hype. Got big, long, wiry, powerful. Don't know

2563
01:56:42,880 --> 01:56:45,520
Speaker 1: that he is as sudden as someone like Nick Bosa

2564
01:56:45,640 --> 01:56:48,560
Speaker 1: was last year, but very talented player the field in

2565
01:56:48,680 --> 01:56:50,600
Speaker 1: your mind to kind of wrap things up, what's the

2566
01:56:50,720 --> 01:56:52,840
Speaker 1: number one story at the Combine this year? And please

2567
01:56:52,880 --> 01:56:55,080
Speaker 1: don't say Burrows hands eye, That's not important. It's gonna

2568
01:56:55,080 --> 01:56:57,840
Speaker 1: say how big my hand? I measured nine and a

2569
01:56:57,880 --> 01:57:01,960
Speaker 1: half bast Maybe it doesn't happen yet too, but yeah,

2570
01:57:02,040 --> 01:57:05,160
Speaker 1: I think it's probably on field. How if a wide

2571
01:57:05,200 --> 01:57:09,720
Speaker 1: receiver separates himself and whether this is really a week

2572
01:57:09,760 --> 01:57:12,600
Speaker 1: where we should bank on a guy separating himself or

2573
01:57:13,200 --> 01:57:16,600
Speaker 1: I'm just if Jerry Judy runs great and doesn't drop

2574
01:57:16,640 --> 01:57:19,360
Speaker 1: a pass on the field, But you, as an evaluator,

2575
01:57:19,480 --> 01:57:23,560
Speaker 1: we're more sold on Ceedee Lamb should this week change

2576
01:57:23,600 --> 01:57:26,480
Speaker 1: your opinion on this? It shouldn't, but you know, public

2577
01:57:26,640 --> 01:57:28,760
Speaker 1: narrative might shift. I don't know the team narrative will

2578
01:57:28,800 --> 01:57:31,480
Speaker 1: necessarily shift just based off of you know, drills taking

2579
01:57:31,520 --> 01:57:34,880
Speaker 1: place right here at lucaswil Stadium. Yeah, all right, great

2580
01:57:37,920 --> 01:57:39,480
Speaker 1: is always you're tired of hooking up with the end

2581
01:57:39,520 --> 01:57:40,960
Speaker 1: the Lion all the time. It's good to have in person.

2582
01:57:41,240 --> 01:57:43,440
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe one of these weeks flying come on in, right,

2583
01:57:43,480 --> 01:57:44,800
Speaker 1: you need to go in to more games, you said,

2584
01:57:45,120 --> 01:57:50,160
Speaker 1: I come on field Gates from ESPN joining us today

2585
01:57:50,480 --> 01:57:52,520
Speaker 1: and Steve and I coming back with more. It's one

2586
01:57:52,600 --> 01:57:55,920
Speaker 1: Bills Live from the NFL's County Combine, an Indian. This

2587
01:57:56,040 --> 01:58:07,160
Speaker 1: is Buffalo Bill Break at a CBA talk from Field,

2588
01:58:07,760 --> 01:58:10,760
Speaker 1: ESPN NFL Insider going over this CBA and it's not

2589
01:58:10,880 --> 01:58:13,120
Speaker 1: done yet, but it looks like the players will approve it.

2590
01:58:13,440 --> 01:58:15,480
Speaker 1: It does not look like a great deal for the players,

2591
01:58:15,520 --> 01:58:18,440
Speaker 1: but the big deal is, well we know some of

2592
01:58:18,480 --> 01:58:20,240
Speaker 1: the elements of it, but the big deal is, as

2593
01:58:20,280 --> 01:58:22,600
Speaker 1: you pointed out, most of these players are just saying,

2594
01:58:22,680 --> 01:58:24,520
Speaker 1: let's keep playing football. I can't make this kind of

2595
01:58:24,520 --> 01:58:26,920
Speaker 1: money anywhere else. I just want to play right and Also,

2596
01:58:27,080 --> 01:58:29,600
Speaker 1: my career is too short to give up a year

2597
01:58:29,880 --> 01:58:33,760
Speaker 1: or whatever workstoppage there would be if we do go

2598
01:58:33,840 --> 01:58:35,560
Speaker 1: on strike, if there is a workstoppage or if there

2599
01:58:35,640 --> 01:58:39,480
Speaker 1: is a lockout, it's it's a difficult position to The

2600
01:58:39,480 --> 01:58:41,280
Speaker 1: players are in it. They're always in it because they

2601
01:58:41,280 --> 01:58:43,840
Speaker 1: have nineteen hundred guys who have a voice. They all

2602
01:58:43,920 --> 01:58:47,120
Speaker 1: have varying Can I just say this and cross purposes?

2603
01:58:47,200 --> 01:58:50,080
Speaker 1: Sometimes I was around and you played in the middle

2604
01:58:50,120 --> 01:58:53,000
Speaker 1: of it, when the Players Association was kind of militant, like, no,

2605
01:58:53,200 --> 01:58:55,440
Speaker 1: that's a bad deal for players. We're going out on strike.

2606
01:58:55,760 --> 01:58:57,760
Speaker 1: Why does that not exist now? Because the money is

2607
01:58:57,760 --> 01:58:59,480
Speaker 1: so much greater now? Is that it? I think so,

2608
01:59:00,720 --> 01:59:02,800
Speaker 1: that's a large part of it. And plus so many

2609
01:59:02,880 --> 01:59:07,000
Speaker 1: victories have already been won. If a player so desires,

2610
01:59:07,080 --> 01:59:11,680
Speaker 1: he can structure his earnings and stuff and lay his

2611
01:59:11,760 --> 01:59:14,840
Speaker 1: own foundation for his future. But the problem is this,

2612
01:59:15,480 --> 01:59:16,960
Speaker 1: some of these guys get in there for three they

2613
01:59:17,080 --> 01:59:18,840
Speaker 1: played for two years, get injured, and they don't get

2614
01:59:18,880 --> 01:59:20,680
Speaker 1: their third year, and they're not even in the Union.

2615
01:59:20,720 --> 01:59:23,960
Speaker 1: They don't get a pension. To give you an example,

2616
01:59:24,240 --> 01:59:26,600
Speaker 1: a major League baseball player, if he gets in it

2617
01:59:26,720 --> 01:59:29,080
Speaker 1: bad in a major league game. He's a vested member

2618
01:59:29,120 --> 01:59:31,200
Speaker 1: of their union. In football, you have to play three

2619
01:59:31,320 --> 01:59:33,600
Speaker 1: years before you're vested as a player in the In

2620
01:59:33,640 --> 01:59:38,480
Speaker 1: the NFL, that includes all that does not include members

2621
01:59:38,520 --> 01:59:40,280
Speaker 1: of the union. Do not include any guy who played

2622
01:59:40,320 --> 01:59:42,360
Speaker 1: for a year and a half, had a great career

2623
01:59:42,440 --> 01:59:45,440
Speaker 1: going and had an injury and knee injury, a back injury,

2624
01:59:45,520 --> 01:59:47,840
Speaker 1: a shoulder injury, angkler, what do you name it, and

2625
01:59:48,000 --> 01:59:50,640
Speaker 1: his career is over. Yeah, that's it. It's he's over.

2626
01:59:51,000 --> 01:59:52,680
Speaker 1: He's not a union. He doesn't get a pension, doesn't

2627
01:59:52,680 --> 01:59:55,960
Speaker 1: get anything like that. And that's and and because of

2628
01:59:56,040 --> 01:59:58,840
Speaker 1: the physical toll that football takes on players, it is

2629
01:59:58,840 --> 02:00:01,200
Speaker 1: a different animal. And while I did just you know,

2630
02:00:01,280 --> 02:00:05,400
Speaker 1: I just compared the union the players of the NFL

2631
02:00:05,520 --> 02:00:08,000
Speaker 1: with players in baseball that kind of thing, It's really

2632
02:00:08,040 --> 02:00:12,040
Speaker 1: a different sport and it and requires different considerations for

2633
02:00:12,200 --> 02:00:13,840
Speaker 1: the players in the union and the owners. Here's the thing.

2634
02:00:13,840 --> 02:00:15,400
Speaker 1: I want to dwell on this because we got some

2635
02:00:15,520 --> 02:00:19,160
Speaker 1: other business to conduct here today. But of the major sports,

2636
02:00:19,200 --> 02:00:23,080
Speaker 1: and I'll include basketball and baseball in particular, NFL players

2637
02:00:23,200 --> 02:00:26,840
Speaker 1: have the worst contract, the worst uh collective bargaining agreement, right,

2638
02:00:26,880 --> 02:00:28,400
Speaker 1: I mean even this new one. They really do have

2639
02:00:28,480 --> 02:00:32,160
Speaker 1: the worst well you ever see the NBA, It's ridiculous.

2640
02:00:32,360 --> 02:00:35,640
Speaker 1: Here's the difference. What they're making more money than either

2641
02:00:35,720 --> 02:00:38,960
Speaker 1: league Major League Baseball. Half of it's for sale all

2642
02:00:39,000 --> 02:00:43,120
Speaker 1: the time. The NBA is run by the players, you

2643
02:00:43,160 --> 02:00:45,720
Speaker 1: can say whatever you want. The NFL has always been

2644
02:00:45,840 --> 02:00:47,920
Speaker 1: run by the business end of it, and that's the owners.

2645
02:00:48,480 --> 02:00:50,800
Speaker 1: They've stewarded the game and it's grown, and like I

2646
02:00:50,920 --> 02:00:53,680
Speaker 1: told you before, they're headed down the road towards players

2647
02:00:53,760 --> 02:00:57,520
Speaker 1: getting everything we think they should deserve. And it's a partnership,

2648
02:00:57,560 --> 02:01:00,200
Speaker 1: but it's a ten year deal to get there. It

2649
02:01:00,200 --> 02:01:05,480
Speaker 1: will take a long time. But in the NBA, Major

2650
02:01:05,560 --> 02:01:10,120
Speaker 1: League Baseball, the NHL combined are not the NFL. I

2651
02:01:10,240 --> 02:01:17,200
Speaker 1: know it is a sacrifice tis for NFL players either,

2652
02:01:17,920 --> 02:01:21,840
Speaker 1: but it is not. And one of the reasons the

2653
02:01:21,920 --> 02:01:24,320
Speaker 1: league has grown as it has is because the money

2654
02:01:24,400 --> 02:01:26,760
Speaker 1: goes to where the people who steward the league are

2655
02:01:27,120 --> 02:01:29,800
Speaker 1: the players. There's no question the players have sacrificed them

2656
02:01:29,960 --> 02:01:34,000
Speaker 1: physical well being their careers, and the money's getting better

2657
02:01:34,040 --> 02:01:35,520
Speaker 1: and it's getting more and more worth it for more

2658
02:01:35,520 --> 02:01:39,560
Speaker 1: and more of the players. But the reason the league

2659
02:01:39,600 --> 02:01:41,520
Speaker 1: has grown as it had. And I'm a former player

2660
02:01:41,640 --> 02:01:44,520
Speaker 1: saying this is because it has been kept by the

2661
02:01:44,640 --> 02:01:47,560
Speaker 1: owners close knit. They keep a tight hold on the

2662
02:01:47,640 --> 02:01:49,840
Speaker 1: control of everything that goes on in the NFL, and

2663
02:01:49,960 --> 02:01:53,400
Speaker 1: this CBA may be another signal that they continue to

2664
02:01:53,440 --> 02:01:55,880
Speaker 1: hold on to it. But as they can afford more

2665
02:01:55,920 --> 02:01:58,440
Speaker 1: and more for the players, the players will get a

2666
02:01:58,520 --> 02:02:00,400
Speaker 1: little bit more and a little bit more. All right,

2667
02:02:00,520 --> 02:02:02,320
Speaker 1: let's move on our topic of the day. We're talking

2668
02:02:02,320 --> 02:02:05,480
Speaker 1: about receivers because the Bills are dealing with receivers here

2669
02:02:05,480 --> 02:02:07,520
Speaker 1: at the combine a lot this week. What's the best

2670
02:02:07,640 --> 02:02:09,920
Speaker 1: characteristic the Bills should look for when they add a

2671
02:02:09,960 --> 02:02:12,680
Speaker 1: wide receiver this offseason, either in the draft or in

2672
02:02:12,840 --> 02:02:16,000
Speaker 1: free agency. And you obviously would like a receiver to

2673
02:02:16,080 --> 02:02:18,840
Speaker 1: have all these characteristics, but what's the best forty four

2674
02:02:18,880 --> 02:02:21,120
Speaker 1: percent of you, We've got six hundred votes in. Forty

2675
02:02:21,160 --> 02:02:24,200
Speaker 1: four percent of you say good hands number one. Thirty

2676
02:02:24,240 --> 02:02:26,520
Speaker 1: eight percent of you say size, length, which is more

2677
02:02:26,520 --> 02:02:28,320
Speaker 1: of a reflection of what they have. I think at

2678
02:02:28,360 --> 02:02:31,680
Speaker 1: the receiver corps, thirteen percent say they need a speed receiver,

2679
02:02:32,040 --> 02:02:34,280
Speaker 1: five percent say something else. Give us a call to discuss.

2680
02:02:34,320 --> 02:02:35,840
Speaker 1: We've got a few minutes left we got a few

2681
02:02:35,880 --> 02:02:38,440
Speaker 1: minutes left and a little time for your calls. Eight

2682
02:02:38,520 --> 02:02:41,520
Speaker 1: oh three five fifty toll free one eight eight eight

2683
02:02:41,640 --> 02:02:44,400
Speaker 1: five fifty two five fifty. You'd like to discuss if

2684
02:02:44,440 --> 02:02:46,440
Speaker 1: you want to send in a tweet, well, you can

2685
02:02:46,520 --> 02:02:47,920
Speaker 1: vote in the twitter poll and we can read your

2686
02:02:47,960 --> 02:02:50,240
Speaker 1: tweets on the tweet sheet. Let's do the tweet sheet now.

2687
02:02:50,280 --> 02:02:52,960
Speaker 1: It has brought to you by Corrigan Moving Systems, the

2688
02:02:53,000 --> 02:02:56,200
Speaker 1: official movers of the Buffalo Bills. What's the best characteristic

2689
02:02:56,280 --> 02:02:58,000
Speaker 1: the Bills should look for in a wide receiver? And

2690
02:02:58,080 --> 02:03:01,400
Speaker 1: Nick says, I feel we have that in smoke John Brown.

2691
02:03:01,640 --> 02:03:03,800
Speaker 1: We need a wide receiver with great hands in range

2692
02:03:04,200 --> 02:03:06,720
Speaker 1: to catch everything thrown at him. That go up and

2693
02:03:06,800 --> 02:03:09,440
Speaker 1: get it guy, A Hopkins like wide receiver, A wide

2694
02:03:09,480 --> 02:03:11,840
Speaker 1: receiver Josh Allen can trust to throw it when he's

2695
02:03:11,880 --> 02:03:13,720
Speaker 1: not open, and trust he will fight for it, make

2696
02:03:13,760 --> 02:03:16,120
Speaker 1: an effort to battle for it. Nick's making good sense

2697
02:03:16,160 --> 02:03:18,080
Speaker 1: with all of that. A guy can go get it,

2698
02:03:18,200 --> 02:03:21,240
Speaker 1: you know. Um, And maybe he didn't answer the question

2699
02:03:21,360 --> 02:03:23,040
Speaker 1: with one of our choices, but he kind of answered

2700
02:03:23,080 --> 02:03:25,440
Speaker 1: the question well as he's saying, you get guys, and

2701
02:03:25,560 --> 02:03:28,400
Speaker 1: that's why I put size, length guy what can get

2702
02:03:28,440 --> 02:03:30,520
Speaker 1: it as opposed to a burner that he says, they

2703
02:03:30,600 --> 02:03:33,200
Speaker 1: have a burner, a guy with range. He says, there's

2704
02:03:33,200 --> 02:03:34,400
Speaker 1: a lot of there's a lot of ways to look

2705
02:03:34,440 --> 02:03:36,440
Speaker 1: at it too, because the second tweet on the sheet

2706
02:03:36,520 --> 02:03:38,600
Speaker 1: is from Alex. He says, you need speed and hands

2707
02:03:38,640 --> 02:03:40,720
Speaker 1: on this receiver because the size and length can be

2708
02:03:40,840 --> 02:03:43,320
Speaker 1: on the tight ends. And if you've seen you've seen Tommy,

2709
02:03:43,400 --> 02:03:47,280
Speaker 1: you've seen this too. Tommy Sweeney, Tyler Croft and of

2710
02:03:47,360 --> 02:03:51,720
Speaker 1: course Dawson Knox. They're all of them are huge targets.

2711
02:03:51,880 --> 02:03:55,560
Speaker 1: They're really big. Now, certainly, you know, people will remember,

2712
02:03:55,720 --> 02:03:58,320
Speaker 1: you know, forget the fact that Dawson Knox came in

2713
02:03:58,440 --> 02:04:01,200
Speaker 1: as as whatever around pick. He was a fourth round pick.

2714
02:04:01,520 --> 02:04:05,320
Speaker 1: Dawson Knox was or fifth round pick, third right third

2715
02:04:05,400 --> 02:04:08,960
Speaker 1: round pick. No, Devin Singletary was a third round pick. Anyway,

2716
02:04:09,040 --> 02:04:11,240
Speaker 1: Dawson Knox comes in as a rookie tight end and

2717
02:04:11,320 --> 02:04:13,080
Speaker 1: makes the team and indeed as the starter for the

2718
02:04:13,080 --> 02:04:15,720
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills. Had some shortcomings this year, had some drops,

2719
02:04:15,760 --> 02:04:17,800
Speaker 1: and that's really the thing. He had a really nice season,

2720
02:04:17,840 --> 02:04:19,840
Speaker 1: but the thing people remember about him is a drop here,

2721
02:04:19,880 --> 02:04:23,560
Speaker 1: a drop there, as big as as big a target

2722
02:04:23,640 --> 02:04:25,640
Speaker 1: as they do have on the roster. You need guys

2723
02:04:25,680 --> 02:04:28,000
Speaker 1: that can catch the ball. And I certainly think though,

2724
02:04:28,040 --> 02:04:30,840
Speaker 1: and I made this point, when you get these guys

2725
02:04:30,880 --> 02:04:34,080
Speaker 1: in there like that, you can hands can be taught.

2726
02:04:34,200 --> 02:04:36,320
Speaker 1: You can teach a guy to catch it. And what

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02:04:36,440 --> 02:04:39,560
Speaker 1: it takes is standing there and just doing it. Having

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02:04:39,600 --> 02:04:42,080
Speaker 1: somebody shoot the jugs machine at you have three hundred

2729
02:04:42,120 --> 02:04:44,000
Speaker 1: times a day, and all of a sudden, you know,

2730
02:04:44,080 --> 02:04:45,960
Speaker 1: you find out you do it three hundred times a day,

2731
02:04:45,960 --> 02:04:48,040
Speaker 1: you get better at it, and that's what happens. And

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02:04:48,120 --> 02:04:49,560
Speaker 1: these guys have to be ready to do that. You

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02:04:49,640 --> 02:04:54,040
Speaker 1: can teach that you can't teach six six. Okay, let's

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02:04:54,040 --> 02:04:56,120
Speaker 1: take a few calls on this topic. Greg is on

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02:04:56,240 --> 02:04:58,560
Speaker 1: the lane. Hell, Greg, you're on the air of this. Yeah.

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02:04:58,680 --> 02:05:01,640
Speaker 1: Great listening to you guys always. Um, I'm wondering, I

2737
02:05:01,680 --> 02:05:04,440
Speaker 1: haven't heard things right. But you know, with wide receiver

2738
02:05:04,640 --> 02:05:06,960
Speaker 1: being that need for the last couple of years, would

2739
02:05:07,000 --> 02:05:09,160
Speaker 1: the free possibility that it might take two. Could they

2740
02:05:09,240 --> 02:05:11,520
Speaker 1: take one in the first second round and then maybe

2741
02:05:11,560 --> 02:05:14,360
Speaker 1: in the sixth seventh round grab another one. I haven't

2742
02:05:14,400 --> 02:05:19,560
Speaker 1: heard anybody talk about that. Absolutely absolutely as possible, and

2743
02:05:19,880 --> 02:05:21,800
Speaker 1: they may take one in the second and third two.

2744
02:05:22,080 --> 02:05:23,880
Speaker 1: You can name any combination you want there. She made

2745
02:05:23,960 --> 02:05:25,920
Speaker 1: a deep draft, may sign a free agent wide out

2746
02:05:25,960 --> 02:05:28,200
Speaker 1: and still draft one or two. That's right. They and

2747
02:05:28,360 --> 02:05:30,360
Speaker 1: they may go. They may go big time into the

2748
02:05:30,400 --> 02:05:33,680
Speaker 1: wide receiver market, or they may take a first rounder

2749
02:05:34,720 --> 02:05:37,520
Speaker 1: as another position and even a second round or in

2750
02:05:37,560 --> 02:05:41,640
Speaker 1: another position and then go three straight wide outs. It

2751
02:05:41,760 --> 02:05:43,960
Speaker 1: was it would be surprised because those guys may start

2752
02:05:44,080 --> 02:05:48,680
Speaker 1: falling into the point where you can trade sideways or backwards.

2753
02:05:48,760 --> 02:05:51,080
Speaker 1: It was crazy to hear Field Yates talk about how

2754
02:05:51,600 --> 02:05:55,600
Speaker 1: who's at Mike Mayock said there are twenty wide receivers

2755
02:05:55,800 --> 02:05:58,000
Speaker 1: who could go in the first round, and we said

2756
02:05:58,040 --> 02:06:00,840
Speaker 1: two two, one of ours, I can't remember who it

2757
02:06:00,920 --> 02:06:03,560
Speaker 1: was about being at twenty two, and that there's a

2758
02:06:03,640 --> 02:06:05,680
Speaker 1: ton of wide receivers and maybe only three of them

2759
02:06:05,720 --> 02:06:08,080
Speaker 1: are off the board. It's a time to trade back.

2760
02:06:08,400 --> 02:06:10,520
Speaker 1: So you trade back or your number one you flip back,

2761
02:06:10,560 --> 02:06:12,520
Speaker 1: and you go back to number twenty seven in the

2762
02:06:12,600 --> 02:06:15,360
Speaker 1: first round, and you pick up another second rounder, and

2763
02:06:15,440 --> 02:06:17,440
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you can you got three picks

2764
02:06:17,480 --> 02:06:20,480
Speaker 1: in the top two rounds instead of just two, and

2765
02:06:20,600 --> 02:06:22,600
Speaker 1: you can take a wide receiver and an edge rusher

2766
02:06:22,680 --> 02:06:24,320
Speaker 1: or an offensive line and that kind of thing. So

2767
02:06:24,800 --> 02:06:27,000
Speaker 1: all of that stuff is possible, and the Bills at

2768
02:06:27,040 --> 02:06:30,200
Speaker 1: twenty two have a chance to do that if if

2769
02:06:30,240 --> 02:06:32,720
Speaker 1: they so desire, and if that, if that opportunity arises

2770
02:06:32,760 --> 02:06:35,120
Speaker 1: with another team. Call here from Wayne. Wayne, you're on

2771
02:06:35,240 --> 02:06:37,720
Speaker 1: the line. You're on the air. Hello, little guys. How

2772
02:06:37,840 --> 02:06:45,000
Speaker 1: you doing real good? Okay? Um? My question? Actually what

2773
02:06:45,120 --> 02:06:49,240
Speaker 1: it is? You had? Other And I would say attitude

2774
02:06:49,360 --> 02:06:53,480
Speaker 1: is most important. I remember commented Buck and once made

2775
02:06:53,520 --> 02:06:57,000
Speaker 1: that quarterback ain't throwing the ball to defender. He stone

2776
02:06:57,040 --> 02:07:02,480
Speaker 1: it to me. It's my ball. It's a good attitude

2777
02:07:02,520 --> 02:07:04,400
Speaker 1: to have. See if you played the position, I would

2778
02:07:04,400 --> 02:07:06,000
Speaker 1: think you got to have an attitude like that, Like

2779
02:07:06,080 --> 02:07:07,960
Speaker 1: if the ball's there, I'm going to get it. Who's

2780
02:07:08,000 --> 02:07:10,120
Speaker 1: government not on every ball? I mean, I mean if

2781
02:07:10,280 --> 02:07:12,280
Speaker 1: if it's a fifty fifty ball, yeah, you sure do.

2782
02:07:12,440 --> 02:07:16,880
Speaker 1: But every every play is different, every every receiver is different,

2783
02:07:16,920 --> 02:07:20,960
Speaker 1: every you know, throw is different. Um, so yeah, you

2784
02:07:21,040 --> 02:07:23,240
Speaker 1: do need a guy that wants to champion the quarterback,

2785
02:07:23,280 --> 02:07:24,880
Speaker 1: you know, and the quarterback says, you know what, I'm

2786
02:07:24,880 --> 02:07:26,840
Speaker 1: gonna throw this up there. I know it's not going

2787
02:07:26,880 --> 02:07:31,000
Speaker 1: to get intercepted. Whether my guy catches it or nobody does,

2788
02:07:31,000 --> 02:07:32,440
Speaker 1: at least I know it's not going the other way

2789
02:07:32,440 --> 02:07:34,520
Speaker 1: because my receiver won't allow that guy to come down

2790
02:07:34,560 --> 02:07:37,200
Speaker 1: with it. Yeah, that that's an attitude. And if if

2791
02:07:37,240 --> 02:07:38,880
Speaker 1: he does thrown up and the receiver's going to say,

2792
02:07:38,920 --> 02:07:41,360
Speaker 1: you know, I'm gonna get it it is that's the

2793
02:07:41,440 --> 02:07:43,840
Speaker 1: only attitude you can have as a wide receiver. So yeah,

2794
02:07:43,920 --> 02:07:48,120
Speaker 1: you're right, Um, attitude is important. Um, And most of

2795
02:07:48,200 --> 02:07:50,680
Speaker 1: these guys have displayed that type of attitude already in

2796
02:07:50,760 --> 02:07:53,160
Speaker 1: their in their career. Some guys are better at it

2797
02:07:53,200 --> 02:07:55,800
Speaker 1: because they're more physically gifted for it, and some guys

2798
02:07:55,840 --> 02:07:58,560
Speaker 1: do have a little extra something to hand it hand

2799
02:07:58,640 --> 02:08:02,600
Speaker 1: you on the attitude scale. But certainly that's an important

2800
02:08:03,040 --> 02:08:05,680
Speaker 1: mindset to have. When the ball's up for fifty fifty.

2801
02:08:06,360 --> 02:08:08,640
Speaker 1: Where's also a mindset that says, I'm getting away from

2802
02:08:08,680 --> 02:08:11,080
Speaker 1: this guy and the quarterback is going to have a

2803
02:08:11,160 --> 02:08:12,880
Speaker 1: big window to throw it to me because I'm the

2804
02:08:12,920 --> 02:08:15,320
Speaker 1: guy that can get open more stuff is important. One

2805
02:08:15,360 --> 02:08:17,480
Speaker 1: more call on this topic, Mark on the line. Hello, Mark,

2806
02:08:17,520 --> 02:08:20,600
Speaker 1: you're on the air. Hey, how you doing guys, Hope

2807
02:08:20,640 --> 02:08:26,160
Speaker 1: everything's well out there? Mark, all right, how are you good? Good?

2808
02:08:26,400 --> 02:08:28,040
Speaker 1: I think what we need in a receiver is one

2809
02:08:28,080 --> 02:08:29,880
Speaker 1: who can adjust to the ball and go get it

2810
02:08:30,280 --> 02:08:32,720
Speaker 1: kind of with stuff on digs out there him and

2811
02:08:32,840 --> 02:08:36,520
Speaker 1: sealing balls in Cincinnata or in uh Minnesota. Have that

2812
02:08:36,640 --> 02:08:42,480
Speaker 1: ability just to the ball in flight. Yeah, good point.

2813
02:08:42,560 --> 02:08:45,520
Speaker 1: And you know, it's it's a puzzle. It's a it's

2814
02:08:45,560 --> 02:08:48,000
Speaker 1: a puzzle for me, see because I know, I think

2815
02:08:48,240 --> 02:08:50,640
Speaker 1: Josh Allen can hit the deep pass. I mean we

2816
02:08:50,720 --> 02:08:52,520
Speaker 1: saw him do it as a rookie. He's got a

2817
02:08:52,560 --> 02:08:54,480
Speaker 1: strong as strong as armor as anybody in the league.

2818
02:08:54,600 --> 02:08:57,680
Speaker 1: And yet it just wasn't there for fifteen games last year.

2819
02:08:57,760 --> 02:08:59,680
Speaker 1: He just had trouble connecting on the deep pass. Yeah.

2820
02:08:59,680 --> 02:09:01,360
Speaker 1: And I think later in the year when he was

2821
02:09:01,400 --> 02:09:04,320
Speaker 1: throwing those interceptions, um, when he went away from that

2822
02:09:04,400 --> 02:09:06,400
Speaker 1: and they kind of disappeared on him. He threw two

2823
02:09:06,480 --> 02:09:08,920
Speaker 1: interceptions the rest of the year after that fifth or

2824
02:09:09,000 --> 02:09:12,360
Speaker 1: sixth game. Uh, he just didn't want to take the chance.

2825
02:09:12,400 --> 02:09:15,160
Speaker 1: And I think at some point, yeah, he's gonna have to,

2826
02:09:15,480 --> 02:09:18,800
Speaker 1: you know, get his courage back, uh and throw it

2827
02:09:18,880 --> 02:09:24,160
Speaker 1: in there. But yeah, I don't know, I just ball

2828
02:09:24,200 --> 02:09:26,960
Speaker 1: skill and to the caller Mark's point. You want to

2829
02:09:26,960 --> 02:09:28,480
Speaker 1: have a guy that can adjust to the ball in

2830
02:09:28,560 --> 02:09:32,320
Speaker 1: the air absolutely, and that's what's called ball skills. When

2831
02:09:32,400 --> 02:09:34,760
Speaker 1: you can control your body, get get your body in

2832
02:09:34,800 --> 02:09:36,960
Speaker 1: a position to catch a ball that wasn't thrown over

2833
02:09:37,040 --> 02:09:39,320
Speaker 1: the correct shoulder or the right distance or at the

2834
02:09:39,400 --> 02:09:44,240
Speaker 1: right depth um or the right you know angle. You

2835
02:09:44,320 --> 02:09:45,680
Speaker 1: got to be able to adjust to it and go

2836
02:09:45,800 --> 02:09:47,840
Speaker 1: get it. Uh. And that that's a mix in all

2837
02:09:47,880 --> 02:09:50,160
Speaker 1: of this and ball skills or something that that's what

2838
02:09:50,240 --> 02:09:52,120
Speaker 1: they talk about when they adjust to the ball in

2839
02:09:52,160 --> 02:09:54,040
Speaker 1: the air and still come down with it. So you're right,

2840
02:09:54,160 --> 02:09:56,720
Speaker 1: that is That's another one that maybe should have been

2841
02:09:56,800 --> 02:09:59,000
Speaker 1: in uh in our in our Twitter poll was a

2842
02:09:59,040 --> 02:10:00,920
Speaker 1: good one though. Hey, you know we're gonna get an

2843
02:10:01,000 --> 02:10:03,240
Speaker 1: update on Josh's offseason tomorrow. You know he's coming on

2844
02:10:03,320 --> 02:10:05,720
Speaker 1: the show tomorrow. I do, but go ahead, no, go ahead.

2845
02:10:06,160 --> 02:10:09,960
Speaker 1: Jordan Poe Palmer. We love that he's like a quarterback mechanic.

2846
02:10:10,080 --> 02:10:12,400
Speaker 1: He's like, lift open the hood and let's talk about

2847
02:10:12,440 --> 02:10:14,560
Speaker 1: fixing quarterbacks. That's what Jordan Palmer does for a living.

2848
02:10:14,600 --> 02:10:16,560
Speaker 1: He's great talking about it too. There's a ton of

2849
02:10:16,640 --> 02:10:21,320
Speaker 1: guys who do that and Jordan Palmer has accept has

2850
02:10:21,320 --> 02:10:23,320
Speaker 1: been He works with a lot of guys, and particularly

2851
02:10:24,560 --> 02:10:26,440
Speaker 1: Josh works with Sam Darn works with a ton of

2852
02:10:26,520 --> 02:10:28,080
Speaker 1: other guys, and a lot of these guys work with

2853
02:10:28,240 --> 02:10:30,320
Speaker 1: young players that we don't know about yet. So George

2854
02:10:30,480 --> 02:10:32,240
Speaker 1: got some of the quarterbacks in this year interesting. We

2855
02:10:32,400 --> 02:10:34,480
Speaker 1: have to come up with some really tough pointed questions

2856
02:10:34,520 --> 02:10:36,280
Speaker 1: for a boy, get to work man, do some homework.

2857
02:10:36,360 --> 02:10:39,480
Speaker 1: As in fact, Daniel Jeremiah right, we had him on

2858
02:10:39,560 --> 02:10:42,200
Speaker 1: the show earlier today, said he's a Southern California native.

2859
02:10:42,800 --> 02:10:45,600
Speaker 1: He said he spent some time at Jordan Palmer's quarterback

2860
02:10:45,640 --> 02:10:48,040
Speaker 1: camp out there in southern California with Josh and those

2861
02:10:48,040 --> 02:10:49,800
Speaker 1: good So I'll be good tomorrow. We'll get an update

2862
02:10:49,840 --> 02:10:51,960
Speaker 1: on what Josh is doing during the offseason that's coming

2863
02:10:52,040 --> 02:10:53,840
Speaker 1: up out tomorrow's show. We're gonna tell you more about

2864
02:10:53,840 --> 02:10:55,720
Speaker 1: tomorrow show in just a moment. Come on back one

2865
02:10:55,760 --> 02:10:58,360
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2866
02:10:58,400 --> 02:11:02,360
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2867
02:11:12,840 --> 02:11:14,440
Speaker 1: What have we learned from today's show of Rock You

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02:11:14,480 --> 02:11:17,440
Speaker 1: by Skyworks, the official construction equipment rental company of the

2869
02:11:17,480 --> 02:11:19,640
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills. What have we learned? We started the show

2870
02:11:19,640 --> 02:11:23,000
Speaker 1: today with Daniel Jeremiah of the NFL Network color analysts

2871
02:11:23,040 --> 02:11:25,640
Speaker 1: on the Los Angeles Charters Radio Network. We asked him,

2872
02:11:25,720 --> 02:11:28,720
Speaker 1: basically our Twitter poll question, what's the best characteristic the

2873
02:11:28,800 --> 02:11:30,840
Speaker 1: Bills should look for as they look for a wide

2874
02:11:30,880 --> 02:11:34,480
Speaker 1: receiver in this year's draft class. Maybe that's old school,

2875
02:11:34,520 --> 02:11:36,720
Speaker 1: but I always started with hands. You know, you gotta

2876
02:11:36,760 --> 02:11:39,560
Speaker 1: kiss the football. Yeah, So, I mean, we have this

2877
02:11:39,680 --> 02:11:41,440
Speaker 1: argument in draft rooms all the time. This guy can

2878
02:11:41,480 --> 02:11:44,120
Speaker 1: really separate? Well here you can't catch he cares, Yeah,

2879
02:11:44,520 --> 02:11:46,400
Speaker 1: But to me, I start with with your hands, and

2880
02:11:46,480 --> 02:11:48,040
Speaker 1: then you know it's not on there. But to me,

2881
02:11:48,120 --> 02:11:50,000
Speaker 1: it's your your quickness and your ability to separate at

2882
02:11:50,000 --> 02:11:54,160
Speaker 1: the top of your route. Daniel Jeremiah, he was good

2883
02:11:54,240 --> 02:11:56,200
Speaker 1: with us. Today. We had Sean McDermott, and today we

2884
02:11:56,280 --> 02:11:58,560
Speaker 1: talked to Sean McDermot here at the Combine about what

2885
02:11:58,720 --> 02:12:00,560
Speaker 1: he looks for in these players of us the Bills

2886
02:12:00,600 --> 02:12:03,240
Speaker 1: are doing on a daily basis here in Indian Appolis.

2887
02:12:03,320 --> 02:12:07,920
Speaker 1: Here's Sean mcdermot's response. You look at things and you say, hey,

2888
02:12:08,120 --> 02:12:09,680
Speaker 1: I know what we want, but I also know what

2889
02:12:09,760 --> 02:12:13,160
Speaker 1: we don't want. One guy certainly can't make a team,

2890
02:12:13,200 --> 02:12:15,320
Speaker 1: but one guy can break a team, and so you

2891
02:12:15,400 --> 02:12:17,720
Speaker 1: don't want that. And so the things when you in

2892
02:12:17,800 --> 02:12:19,600
Speaker 1: our scouts do a really good job. I've got a

2893
02:12:19,640 --> 02:12:22,120
Speaker 1: bunch of I'm sitting at the Wayans a few minutes ago.

2894
02:12:22,160 --> 02:12:24,200
Speaker 1: I've got all the background for each player in front

2895
02:12:24,240 --> 02:12:26,840
Speaker 1: of me. They're up there, they're getting way, they're getting measured,

2896
02:12:26,880 --> 02:12:31,200
Speaker 1: and I can quickly look at their background and look

2897
02:12:31,240 --> 02:12:34,680
Speaker 1: at things that stand out from habits and some of

2898
02:12:34,760 --> 02:12:38,720
Speaker 1: the character traits of these young men, and you can say, hey, okay,

2899
02:12:38,760 --> 02:12:41,400
Speaker 1: I'm going to continue to watch and evaluate this player

2900
02:12:41,800 --> 02:12:45,480
Speaker 1: and take down the measurables because I'm ment interested based

2901
02:12:45,520 --> 02:12:48,040
Speaker 1: on the background. And then there's guys where you read

2902
02:12:48,040 --> 02:12:50,160
Speaker 1: the background and you're saying, no way, no way, does

2903
02:12:50,160 --> 02:12:55,120
Speaker 1: he fit in what we're doing. John McDermot, in response

2904
02:12:55,160 --> 02:12:57,440
Speaker 1: to a question about the interviews they do. We had

2905
02:12:57,440 --> 02:12:59,320
Speaker 1: a good show today, Steve. We've got an even greater

2906
02:12:59,360 --> 02:13:02,120
Speaker 1: show coming up. You're gonna be ready for that. Just hits,

2907
02:13:02,200 --> 02:13:04,120
Speaker 1: just keep on coming. That's that's all I can say.

2908
02:13:04,240 --> 02:13:06,440
Speaker 1: Jordan Palmer, who I sented earlier, Jordan will be with

2909
02:13:06,560 --> 02:13:09,600
Speaker 1: us tomorrow. Kurt Warner maybe you've heard of him. Scheduled

2910
02:13:09,680 --> 02:13:12,920
Speaker 1: leading with us tomorrow. Matt Miller from Bleacher Report and

2911
02:13:13,000 --> 02:13:14,680
Speaker 1: might get Bucky Brooks from NFL net Work. We'll have

2912
02:13:14,720 --> 02:13:16,080
Speaker 1: a good show tomorrow. Yeah, there's a lot of a

2913
02:13:16,080 --> 02:13:18,080
Speaker 1: ton of stuff going on, and as that we get

2914
02:13:18,120 --> 02:13:20,960
Speaker 1: deeper and deeper into it, tomorrow night, the quarterbacks and

2915
02:13:21,040 --> 02:13:22,920
Speaker 1: wide receivers starts. It's gonna be fun. We'll have some

2916
02:13:23,000 --> 02:13:26,400
Speaker 1: of that too. Production assistant today George Blast, Jeff Coltonick Thomas,

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Speaker 1: honald Or, Kelly Rude, JJ Turino, Kevin Cargis, James Roebel,

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Speaker 1: Our producer Jay Harris. We got you tomorrow at noon

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